August 6, 2025 • 21 mins
(August 06, 2025)
About half of U.S. adults say grocery costs cause major stress, poll shows. An old L.A. home is finding new life on an Altadena lot burned by the Eaton fire. Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about doctors urging caution on Benadryl and how tariffs could affect popular weight loss drugs like Ozempic & Wegovy.
About half of U.S. adults say grocery costs cause major stress, poll shows. An old L.A. home is finding new life on an Altadena lot burned by the Eaton fire. Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about doctors urging caution on Benadryl and how tariffs could affect popular weight loss drugs like Ozempic & Wegovy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're List Saints KFI AM six forty. The bill handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio Fix on a Wednesday morning,
August six exactly. I don't know how many years ago
dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima three days from now,
it's Nagasaki, the remembrance. How many years has it been
(00:24):
if you think about it, in nineteen forty five to
do the math, thank you eighty it's been eighty years. Wow,
long time.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
There is a survey that just came out.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's an ap Nork Center for Public Affairs Research, and
it had to do with major stress and the vast
majority of US adults or at least somewhat stressed about
the cost of groceries.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Now there's housing.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We're not stressed about the cost of housing here in
southern Cali at all. I just want to let you
know because it's real easy, pasy. No one can afford it,
so the stress is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Groceries are a different matter.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The cost of groceries has really affected everybody. And it's
I don't think because inflation is so high now. It's
because inflation is already here. As President Trump and so
successfully argued inflation during the Biden years and it hit
(01:32):
nine percent at one point. I mean, that is astronomical.
And the president said he will lower inflation the new president.
He also said that the cost of food would be
half of what you're paying, which of course makes no sense,
but that extra inflation that's baked in. I mean, we're
(01:52):
even if inflation goes down to zero, we're still paying
huge prices for food. Bill talks about the cost of
for example, meat, just hamburger meat, which used to be
dirt poor with dirt cheap, is now pretty high, even
at costco.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I went there the other day and I went come
on between eight and ten percent. It's gone up. And
as a whole, here in southern California, Bill, we spend
even about thirty thirty five dollars more a week than
the rest of the country. So not only is the
country up, in southern California were up even more.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I was just reading a story in the Wall
Street Journal in the business section about McDonald's. They had
lost customers big time and how they're bringing them back.
And they've done somewhat successful about that, is doing their
MG value meals to bring customers back. Because McDonald's was
actually the least expensive fast food restaurant out there except
(02:55):
for in and out Burger, but that's kind of a
cult classic because you can get at an out Burger
a double double fries and a drink for ten dollars
and something since including tax, So that is a bargain.
Go to Carls Junior. Yeah, you'll be paying forty dollars
for the same thing. And the bottom line is wages
(03:20):
have gone up, but they haven't kept up with inflation.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
They haven't kept up with the cost of food.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And as you would think, sixty four percent of the
lowest income Americans, those who have a household income of
less than thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I don't know how many in southern California.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You can even live on thirty thousand dollars a year,
But the cost of grocery is the biggest stressor. Even
four in ten forty percent that have a household income
of one hundred thousand dollars or more are saying the
cost of groceries are a stressor. And within not a
(04:00):
higher income group one hundred thousand dollars a year or more,
only twenty percent say grocery costs aren't a worry at all.
I mean, this is really scary and Neil, why is
it the southern California We pay what thirty forty percent
more for groceries than we would in other parts of
(04:20):
the country.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know, they say cost of living is different here, housing,
different goods contribute to these higher costs. It's just what
it does.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We have.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
We have different laws and regulations here, and those things caused.
Same with gas, it's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You know, we just well there's reason for gas.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, there is no question that gas would be
more expensive because the number of refineries are almost non
existent in this state because no one wills finery built this.
We have the summer blend, which changes everything. We have
the restrictions on the amount of emissions that's California.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But food, yeah, but you have you have regulations on
cage sizing and pork.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You have.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
The same with eggs. You have we have different laws here,
uh than they are than there are in other parts
of the country. That actually most of them.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, and you would think that prices, for example, fruits
and vegetables would be cheaper here because California is the
bread basket of the country in terms of produce.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's the fruit, fruit basket, the vegetable basket.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well yeah, well the fruit basket.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Every time you stand up, I noticed that's quite a
fruit basket.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You have thanks for others, see.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This is you know the reason I like Will so
much on the.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Show because he always shakes his head whenever I say
anything completely stupid. Okay, now here's something really interesting that
I've been talking about for years, and Neil's sort of
in the middle of this. In one aspect, So you
have the Altadena you know, the Palisades fire where people
owned lots or people bought lots that are now just ground.
(06:16):
And there's one couple in there's the store, and the
story in the Daily News Gwen Sukina and her husband
Jacques Laramie lost their home is the Eaton fire, and
they didn't rebuild. What they did is bought a nineteen
ten house in Los Felis, chopped it up into four
pieces and are moving it to Altadena.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And this is a nineteen ten house. Why would they
do that. It's expensive as hell to move a house.
By the way, it's no.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Small You know what's strange, Bill is that it used
to be more common. It was very common in the
nineteenth and early twentieth centuries to move a home, and
it was much more cost effect and one of the
reasons why it's not anymore is because the roads have
gotten more fixed size wise, and you've got power lines
(07:09):
and telephone lines and all these things that make it
more difficult. So usually it is only these historical houses
that they end up moving.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I mean you have to go because of what
you said, because of the power lines, et cetera. And
with the streets, I mean they have to go around
in almost as a Jerrymanders situation where they go up
and down and over and back. But the reason you would,
why I would do it, is because this is a
craftsman house.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It was built in nineteen ten.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Neil has a craftsman's house that was built in nineteen twelve.
And Neil, the difference between buying a house that's twenty
thirty years old new house and a craftsman house that
is way over a century old.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, you know, the folks that are doing this we
had similar intent.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
We like old things.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
They're built differently.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
When you.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Hold wood that is truly you know, two by fours
and it's one hundred year growth wood. It's just different,
and they're built better. They're built, you know, by hand.
I go into places sometimes and I see hand drill
marks to make holes in things, and you can tell
(08:31):
the difference. It is absolutely. We've even talked about it
and joked about ourselves if we ever moved from the area,
we'd take our house with us, because you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Two by fours are legitimately two by fours. The woods
are redwood legitimately. Although you've got the fuses, you have
the installation around the electrical wires which is cloth.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Oh well, the knob and tube and all that stuff.
We've had all that stuff. Steh, you sort of have to.
It still exists. You can see it underneath the house.
You can see all the old ceramic and the cloth
wire and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's pretty neat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And the way they were built also, I mean they
weren't well architecturally. I had a house, a duplex near
Hancock Park before I built the Persian Palace, and it
was built nineteen twenty seven. Yeah, and it was it
was one bathroom for the entire house and then one
bathroom for quote the maids quarters which they used to
(09:35):
have in those days, very small room, its own bathroom,
very small, and then the other two or three bedrooms
were one bathroom for the entire house now a pretty
good sized bathroom. And the kitchen ridiculously small because they
didn't use the kitchens. Was not a centerpiece of the
(09:55):
house the way it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Is in the closets and everything were taking. Closets were ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Had your work clothes, your church clothes and that was it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, and liking old things is not people do that,
Lindsey for example, like slikes old things.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, we kind of picked up on that at the
wedding team.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, that pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But one of the things that I do miss I
mean that nineteen twenty seven house.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
The gravity heater which we used.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
We fixed so the heating system was in the basement.
They had a partial basement and it was quote a
gravity heater. There was no central air it the air
simply went up. It was just heated and the air
went up and the returns, et cetera. The events were
on the ground, were on the floor. I mean, wonderful,
(10:52):
wonderful little houses. If I had to do it again,
I don't know if I would, but to build or
to buy a house that is something very special and
there aren't enough people that do it. LA has a
street Carroll Street downtown LA where they have moved houses
even from the Victorian era and along a street on
(11:14):
both sides, and that is worth going to because you
will see architecture and houses from the Victorian era through
the craftsman era.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You can see the juxtaposition of the skyline in the
background there. It's stunning these houses. As a matter of fact,
the house from the music video Thriller is there.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Super super interesting and just it's lovely old stuff, all right.
Jim Kinney, who is the chief Medical Officers for Dignity
Saint Mary Medical Center, Jim, good morning, Good morning. Bo
Okay boy, do I have a question this morning when
it was announced that RFK Junior halted five hundred million
(11:58):
dollars from four or mRNA vaccine. I think it was
that for not only development but also research. It struck
me as something not only serious, but come on, just
antime medicine across the board.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, I mean, so it's for the money was for BARTA,
the Biomedical Advanced Research Development Authority. It's under HHS and
their whole goal is to prevent, to be prepared for bioterrorism, attacks, pandemics,
emergency infections, and then like the biological, chemical, radiologic, you
know attacks. And so that's their goal is to get
(12:41):
ready for these kind of things. And we've identified that
l RNA vaccines are something that can be ramped up
quickly and can be adjusted for whatever the particular need
is at that point. So, you know, a lot of
it is the way he did it too, because on
one hand, you know, you look at it when I
look at how much these companies have made off of COVID,
(13:01):
you know, I am a little surprised. Why are we
still supporting them? They made enough money off these fRNA
vaccines that they should be able to develop new vaccines
without without us giving them billions of dollars. And there
are other vaccine technologies that should be supported. But then
I would have come out more with a statement like, look,
you know these are highly effect So he's saying they're
not effective. These are highly effective vaccines at preventing severe disease, hospitalization,
(13:25):
and death. It's if you're going to go by people
still get COVID, then yes, that's how he's saying they're ineffective,
but the point is to save lives, not necessarily always
to stop the disease, saying with the flu vaccine, So
you know, he's he's saying certain things that aren't true.
I would have said, look, you know, these are highly
(13:47):
effective vaccines, but we're going to move the money in
a different direction because there are other technologies out there
that need this funding and need to be explored. And meanwhile,
the billions that Sonofi and all these other companies made
the clock so Smith, all they made off is they
can use that to develop new drugs for us.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, and I don't, but I don't think that was
the case RFK was making. He straight out said they're
not effective.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Right, Yeah, it's completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And on top of that, I mean, does he have
scientists that say that he's right that they are not
effective other than crackpot scientists and the medical teams.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, with the announcement, he didn't offer any scientific backing
for what he was saying. He just said they're not effective.
So they failed to protect effectively, and that's not true.
They protect you from death, hospitalization. It's been well established,
it's been proven, so they actually do work, and so
it's not about like, why are we getting into another
(14:49):
debate about, you know, the COVID vaccine. When we have
a technology out there that's been shown to work, it
should be developed. But again, I think you know a
lot of these companies, they do make a ton of
money off Americans, and then we're giving them the money
to figure out how to make more money off of us.
I can see if it came out that way, I
(15:09):
could see a point, right, but that's not how he
did it at all.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Doesn't make much much sense at all.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I wonder how Senator Bill Kennedy is feeling about what
RFK is doing. Bill Kennedy is a physician, and he
questioned RFK like crazy, No, I'm not against vaccines. No,
I'm in favor of vaccines. I believe they're effective. And
Kennedy or Cassidy, I'm sorry. Bill Cassidy was the vote
(15:40):
that put him over the top based on the fact
that the RFK said, oh, no, everything is fine.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I would never I would never change anything.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Man. I hope he looks himself in the mirror and
tries to kick himself in the ass. That's Bill Cassidy,
all right, Jim justin Timberlake, Wait months to get lined
to get as line disease diagnosis. And the more we
talk over the years, line disease, which didn't seem to
be that big a deal, is really serious stuff and
(16:14):
waiting months to get the diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Explain that line disease is caused by a tick. In California,
where it is present, it's caused by a slightly different
tick than the East Coast, And it's in areas where
there's grassy but you know, tall grassy areas you might
be hiking through, or wooded areas that you might be
hiking through. They especially love dead wood or dead grassy
(16:37):
areas to just kind of hang out on until an
animal or a human walks by and they jump on
and stuck a little blood. So, and it's the stage
of the tick that usually carries the disease is the
tiny stage. So it does look very small, like just
slightly bigger than a poppy. Seeds sometimes very hard to see.
So after you're hiking in these areas, you need to
(16:58):
check yourself. You got to do a tick and check
yourself for those things.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And in terms of the symptoms and long range it
almost seems like syphless.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And I know that's kind of a joke, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Early stage is fairly easy to treat, and by the
time it is hit in the case of Syphless, the
tertiary stage, man, it is just too late period and
you have bought you've bought the store on that one.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, I mean, actually, that's a great comparison. Sometimes your
medical knowledge kind of blows me away, you know. So
it's a very good comparison because it has those stages.
And yeah, the first stage, you get what it's called,
like we call it a target lesion or a rash
that looks like it's red, and it's originally a red
rash around the where the tick bite was, and then
it spreads a little bit more open and the center
(17:49):
will become like more normal skin, so it looks like
a bull's eye and that'll spread out. That's the classic rash.
But it's only seen in about eighty percent of people.
And if it's on your back or somewhere where you're
not looking you want, you may not even notice it.
So at that stage you can easy you treat what
doctu cycling, the patient gets better and you move on
with your life. If it goes on from there, then
(18:09):
it can progress to kind of a secondary stage disease
where you get problems with your joints, you know, arthritis
U severe fatigue. That's when people get really exhausted and tired,
body aches, and then it can affect nerves and that's
when you start getting those serious long term problems where
you get nerve damage. You can even get some effects
(18:29):
on the brain. So you know you want to try
and discover this early. It's hard because if you miss
the tick bite stage, it's very vague and you may
not figure this out. So once people start getting like
multiple joints that are hurting and things like that, your
doctor will often just do aligned to these tests to
see if it's there.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Can that still at that stage? Can it be treated successfully?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, all three stages can be treated. It's just harder
as you go along to get rid of it. So yes,
that second stage definitely can be treated successfully, as well
as the third stage. But there may be at that
point some irreversible issues.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And so based on what you said justin Timberlake quote
waiting months, it's not a question of waiting months. It
just took months for the symptoms to come up where
the doctors could see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
How often do you see this in the er room?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, I wouldn't know because it's not a test
that we can really do in the eer. It's not
an emergency test. But I'll see people with chronic fatigue
that's really severe or severe joint pains or nerve pain,
and I'll let them know that, you know, you should
really go see a doctor and get all this tested.
I mean, it's not we try not to do tests
in the emergency room that aren't emergencies. Could obviously it's
(19:46):
a long wait already, and if we start ordering things
that are could be done outpatient, we could really back
the system up, as.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
The system is not backed up like crazy anyway, what
I like? And I asked him all the time about advice,
medical advice, and the best advice you've ever given, Jim
as an er doctor, stay out of the er.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That will help you the most. It's true, by the way,
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I mean, there's reasons to go, but that's for sure.
But if you can avoid it, but you should probably
try and avoid it and look for the.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, Shaman, go to a witch doctor. You'll do much better. Jim,
we'll talk again. Next Wednesday, as always, have a good day,
take care, Yeah, go ahead and kill somebody as always.
All right, we're done, guys, completely finished. Gary and Shannon
are up next tomorrow morning wake Up Call with Amy
(20:46):
and Will. Neil and I join at six o'clock, six
to nine, and then of course we've got Ann and
Kono that just keep things running.
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August six exactly. I don't know how many years ago
dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima three days from now,
it's Nagasaki, the remembrance. How many years has it been
(00:24):
if you think about it, in nineteen forty five to
do the math, thank you eighty it's been eighty years. Wow,
long time.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
There is a survey that just came out.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's an ap Nork Center for Public Affairs Research, and
it had to do with major stress and the vast
majority of US adults or at least somewhat stressed about
the cost of groceries.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Now there's housing.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We're not stressed about the cost of housing here in
southern Cali at all. I just want to let you
know because it's real easy, pasy. No one can afford it,
so the stress is gone.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Groceries are a different matter.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The cost of groceries has really affected everybody. And it's
I don't think because inflation is so high now. It's
because inflation is already here. As President Trump and so
successfully argued inflation during the Biden years and it hit
(01:32):
nine percent at one point. I mean, that is astronomical.
And the president said he will lower inflation the new president.
He also said that the cost of food would be
half of what you're paying, which of course makes no sense,
but that extra inflation that's baked in. I mean, we're
(01:52):
even if inflation goes down to zero, we're still paying
huge prices for food. Bill talks about the cost of
for example, meat, just hamburger meat, which used to be
dirt poor with dirt cheap, is now pretty high, even
at costco.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I went there the other day and I went come
on between eight and ten percent. It's gone up. And
as a whole, here in southern California, Bill, we spend
even about thirty thirty five dollars more a week than
the rest of the country. So not only is the
country up, in southern California were up even more.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, I was just reading a story in the Wall
Street Journal in the business section about McDonald's. They had
lost customers big time and how they're bringing them back.
And they've done somewhat successful about that, is doing their
MG value meals to bring customers back. Because McDonald's was
actually the least expensive fast food restaurant out there except
(02:55):
for in and out Burger, but that's kind of a
cult classic because you can get at an out Burger
a double double fries and a drink for ten dollars
and something since including tax, So that is a bargain.
Go to Carls Junior. Yeah, you'll be paying forty dollars
for the same thing. And the bottom line is wages
(03:20):
have gone up, but they haven't kept up with inflation.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
They haven't kept up with the cost of food.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And as you would think, sixty four percent of the
lowest income Americans, those who have a household income of
less than thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I don't know how many in southern California.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You can even live on thirty thousand dollars a year,
But the cost of grocery is the biggest stressor. Even
four in ten forty percent that have a household income
of one hundred thousand dollars or more are saying the
cost of groceries are a stressor. And within not a
(04:00):
higher income group one hundred thousand dollars a year or more,
only twenty percent say grocery costs aren't a worry at all.
I mean, this is really scary and Neil, why is
it the southern California We pay what thirty forty percent
more for groceries than we would in other parts of
(04:20):
the country.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
You know, they say cost of living is different here, housing,
different goods contribute to these higher costs. It's just what
it does.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We have.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
We have different laws and regulations here, and those things caused.
Same with gas, it's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You know, we just well there's reason for gas.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, there is no question that gas would be
more expensive because the number of refineries are almost non
existent in this state because no one wills finery built this.
We have the summer blend, which changes everything. We have
the restrictions on the amount of emissions that's California.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
But food, yeah, but you have you have regulations on
cage sizing and pork.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You have.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
The same with eggs. You have we have different laws here,
uh than they are than there are in other parts
of the country. That actually most of them.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, and you would think that prices, for example, fruits
and vegetables would be cheaper here because California is the
bread basket of the country in terms of produce.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
It's the fruit, fruit basket, the vegetable basket.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well yeah, well the fruit basket.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Every time you stand up, I noticed that's quite a
fruit basket.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You have thanks for others, see.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
This is you know the reason I like Will so
much on the.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Show because he always shakes his head whenever I say
anything completely stupid. Okay, now here's something really interesting that
I've been talking about for years, and Neil's sort of
in the middle of this. In one aspect, So you
have the Altadena you know, the Palisades fire where people
owned lots or people bought lots that are now just ground.
(06:16):
And there's one couple in there's the store, and the
story in the Daily News Gwen Sukina and her husband
Jacques Laramie lost their home is the Eaton fire, and
they didn't rebuild. What they did is bought a nineteen
ten house in Los Felis, chopped it up into four
pieces and are moving it to Altadena.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And this is a nineteen ten house. Why would they
do that. It's expensive as hell to move a house.
By the way, it's no.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Small You know what's strange, Bill is that it used
to be more common. It was very common in the
nineteenth and early twentieth centuries to move a home, and
it was much more cost effect and one of the
reasons why it's not anymore is because the roads have
gotten more fixed size wise, and you've got power lines
(07:09):
and telephone lines and all these things that make it
more difficult. So usually it is only these historical houses
that they end up moving.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I mean you have to go because of what
you said, because of the power lines, et cetera. And
with the streets, I mean they have to go around
in almost as a Jerrymanders situation where they go up
and down and over and back. But the reason you would,
why I would do it, is because this is a
craftsman house.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It was built in nineteen ten.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Neil has a craftsman's house that was built in nineteen twelve.
And Neil, the difference between buying a house that's twenty
thirty years old new house and a craftsman house that
is way over a century old.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Well, you know, the folks that are doing this we
had similar intent.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
We like old things.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
They're built differently.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
When you.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Hold wood that is truly you know, two by fours
and it's one hundred year growth wood. It's just different,
and they're built better. They're built, you know, by hand.
I go into places sometimes and I see hand drill
marks to make holes in things, and you can tell
(08:31):
the difference. It is absolutely. We've even talked about it
and joked about ourselves if we ever moved from the area,
we'd take our house with us, because you can't.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Two by fours are legitimately two by fours. The woods
are redwood legitimately. Although you've got the fuses, you have
the installation around the electrical wires which is cloth.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Oh well, the knob and tube and all that stuff.
We've had all that stuff. Steh, you sort of have to.
It still exists. You can see it underneath the house.
You can see all the old ceramic and the cloth
wire and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's pretty neat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And the way they were built also, I mean they
weren't well architecturally. I had a house, a duplex near
Hancock Park before I built the Persian Palace, and it
was built nineteen twenty seven. Yeah, and it was it
was one bathroom for the entire house and then one
bathroom for quote the maids quarters which they used to
(09:35):
have in those days, very small room, its own bathroom,
very small, and then the other two or three bedrooms
were one bathroom for the entire house now a pretty
good sized bathroom. And the kitchen ridiculously small because they
didn't use the kitchens. Was not a centerpiece of the
(09:55):
house the way it.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Is in the closets and everything were taking. Closets were ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Had your work clothes, your church clothes and that was it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, and liking old things is not people do that,
Lindsey for example, like slikes old things.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, we kind of picked up on that at the
wedding team.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, that pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But one of the things that I do miss I
mean that nineteen twenty seven house.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
The gravity heater which we used.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
We fixed so the heating system was in the basement.
They had a partial basement and it was quote a
gravity heater. There was no central air it the air
simply went up. It was just heated and the air
went up and the returns, et cetera. The events were
on the ground, were on the floor. I mean, wonderful,
(10:52):
wonderful little houses. If I had to do it again,
I don't know if I would, but to build or
to buy a house that is something very special and
there aren't enough people that do it. LA has a
street Carroll Street downtown LA where they have moved houses
even from the Victorian era and along a street on
(11:14):
both sides, and that is worth going to because you
will see architecture and houses from the Victorian era through
the craftsman era.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You can see the juxtaposition of the skyline in the
background there. It's stunning these houses. As a matter of fact,
the house from the music video Thriller is there.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Super super interesting and just it's lovely old stuff, all right.
Jim Kinney, who is the chief Medical Officers for Dignity
Saint Mary Medical Center, Jim, good morning, Good morning. Bo
Okay boy, do I have a question this morning when
it was announced that RFK Junior halted five hundred million
(11:58):
dollars from four or mRNA vaccine. I think it was
that for not only development but also research. It struck
me as something not only serious, but come on, just
antime medicine across the board.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, I mean, so it's for the money was for BARTA,
the Biomedical Advanced Research Development Authority. It's under HHS and
their whole goal is to prevent, to be prepared for bioterrorism, attacks, pandemics,
emergency infections, and then like the biological, chemical, radiologic, you
know attacks. And so that's their goal is to get
(12:41):
ready for these kind of things. And we've identified that
l RNA vaccines are something that can be ramped up
quickly and can be adjusted for whatever the particular need
is at that point. So, you know, a lot of
it is the way he did it too, because on
one hand, you know, you look at it when I
look at how much these companies have made off of COVID,
(13:01):
you know, I am a little surprised. Why are we
still supporting them? They made enough money off these fRNA
vaccines that they should be able to develop new vaccines
without without us giving them billions of dollars. And there
are other vaccine technologies that should be supported. But then
I would have come out more with a statement like, look,
you know these are highly effect So he's saying they're
not effective. These are highly effective vaccines at preventing severe disease, hospitalization,
(13:25):
and death. It's if you're going to go by people
still get COVID, then yes, that's how he's saying they're ineffective,
but the point is to save lives, not necessarily always
to stop the disease, saying with the flu vaccine, So
you know, he's he's saying certain things that aren't true.
I would have said, look, you know, these are highly
(13:47):
effective vaccines, but we're going to move the money in
a different direction because there are other technologies out there
that need this funding and need to be explored. And meanwhile,
the billions that Sonofi and all these other companies made
the clock so Smith, all they made off is they
can use that to develop new drugs for us.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, and I don't, but I don't think that was
the case RFK was making. He straight out said they're
not effective.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Right, Yeah, it's completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And on top of that, I mean, does he have
scientists that say that he's right that they are not
effective other than crackpot scientists and the medical teams.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, with the announcement, he didn't offer any scientific backing
for what he was saying. He just said they're not effective.
So they failed to protect effectively, and that's not true.
They protect you from death, hospitalization. It's been well established,
it's been proven, so they actually do work, and so
it's not about like, why are we getting into another
(14:49):
debate about, you know, the COVID vaccine. When we have
a technology out there that's been shown to work, it
should be developed. But again, I think you know a
lot of these companies, they do make a ton of
money off Americans, and then we're giving them the money
to figure out how to make more money off of us.
I can see if it came out that way, I
(15:09):
could see a point, right, but that's not how he
did it at all.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Doesn't make much much sense at all.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I wonder how Senator Bill Kennedy is feeling about what
RFK is doing. Bill Kennedy is a physician, and he
questioned RFK like crazy, No, I'm not against vaccines. No,
I'm in favor of vaccines. I believe they're effective. And
Kennedy or Cassidy, I'm sorry. Bill Cassidy was the vote
(15:40):
that put him over the top based on the fact
that the RFK said, oh, no, everything is fine.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I would never I would never change anything.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Man. I hope he looks himself in the mirror and
tries to kick himself in the ass. That's Bill Cassidy,
all right, Jim justin Timberlake, Wait months to get lined
to get as line disease diagnosis. And the more we
talk over the years, line disease, which didn't seem to
be that big a deal, is really serious stuff and
(16:14):
waiting months to get the diagnosis.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Explain that line disease is caused by a tick. In California,
where it is present, it's caused by a slightly different
tick than the East Coast, And it's in areas where
there's grassy but you know, tall grassy areas you might
be hiking through, or wooded areas that you might be
hiking through. They especially love dead wood or dead grassy
(16:37):
areas to just kind of hang out on until an
animal or a human walks by and they jump on
and stuck a little blood. So, and it's the stage
of the tick that usually carries the disease is the
tiny stage. So it does look very small, like just
slightly bigger than a poppy. Seeds sometimes very hard to see.
So after you're hiking in these areas, you need to
(16:58):
check yourself. You got to do a tick and check
yourself for those things.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And in terms of the symptoms and long range it
almost seems like syphless.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And I know that's kind of a joke, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Early stage is fairly easy to treat, and by the
time it is hit in the case of Syphless, the
tertiary stage, man, it is just too late period and
you have bought you've bought the store on that one.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, I mean, actually, that's a great comparison. Sometimes your
medical knowledge kind of blows me away, you know. So
it's a very good comparison because it has those stages.
And yeah, the first stage, you get what it's called,
like we call it a target lesion or a rash
that looks like it's red, and it's originally a red
rash around the where the tick bite was, and then
it spreads a little bit more open and the center
(17:49):
will become like more normal skin, so it looks like
a bull's eye and that'll spread out. That's the classic rash.
But it's only seen in about eighty percent of people.
And if it's on your back or somewhere where you're
not looking you want, you may not even notice it.
So at that stage you can easy you treat what
doctu cycling, the patient gets better and you move on
with your life. If it goes on from there, then
(18:09):
it can progress to kind of a secondary stage disease
where you get problems with your joints, you know, arthritis
U severe fatigue. That's when people get really exhausted and tired,
body aches, and then it can affect nerves and that's
when you start getting those serious long term problems where
you get nerve damage. You can even get some effects
(18:29):
on the brain. So you know you want to try
and discover this early. It's hard because if you miss
the tick bite stage, it's very vague and you may
not figure this out. So once people start getting like
multiple joints that are hurting and things like that, your
doctor will often just do aligned to these tests to
see if it's there.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Can that still at that stage? Can it be treated successfully?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, all three stages can be treated. It's just harder
as you go along to get rid of it. So yes,
that second stage definitely can be treated successfully, as well
as the third stage. But there may be at that
point some irreversible issues.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And so based on what you said justin Timberlake quote
waiting months, it's not a question of waiting months. It
just took months for the symptoms to come up where
the doctors could see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
How often do you see this in the er room?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, I wouldn't know because it's not a test
that we can really do in the eer. It's not
an emergency test. But I'll see people with chronic fatigue
that's really severe or severe joint pains or nerve pain,
and I'll let them know that, you know, you should
really go see a doctor and get all this tested.
I mean, it's not we try not to do tests
in the emergency room that aren't emergencies. Could obviously it's
(19:46):
a long wait already, and if we start ordering things
that are could be done outpatient, we could really back
the system up, as.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
The system is not backed up like crazy anyway, what
I like? And I asked him all the time about advice,
medical advice, and the best advice you've ever given, Jim
as an er doctor, stay out of the er.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That will help you the most. It's true, by the way,
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I mean, there's reasons to go, but that's for sure.
But if you can avoid it, but you should probably
try and avoid it and look for the.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, Shaman, go to a witch doctor. You'll do much better. Jim,
we'll talk again. Next Wednesday, as always, have a good day,
take care, Yeah, go ahead and kill somebody as always.
All right, we're done, guys, completely finished. Gary and Shannon
are up next tomorrow morning wake Up Call with Amy
(20:46):
and Will. Neil and I join at six o'clock, six
to nine, and then of course we've got Ann and
Kono that just keep things running.
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