May 26, 2025 • 29 mins
(May 26,2025)
Amy King joins Neil Saavedra who fills in for Bill for Handel on the News. U.S. attorney in L.A. moves to ‘neutralize’ California’s sanctuary rules. Trump delays 50% tariffs on EU to July 9th. Large group vandalizes several businesses and Metro trains in downtown Los Angeles. Russia spent a record number of drones into Ukraine as Trump says Putin has ‘gone crazy.’
Amy King joins Neil Saavedra who fills in for Bill for Handel on the News. U.S. attorney in L.A. moves to ‘neutralize’ California’s sanctuary rules. Trump delays 50% tariffs on EU to July 9th. Large group vandalizes several businesses and Metro trains in downtown Los Angeles. Russia spent a record number of drones into Ukraine as Trump says Putin has ‘gone crazy.’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty and now Handle on the news. Ladies and gentlemen,
here's not Bill Handle. Oh you flatter me. KFI AM
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six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Good morning
to you, Happy Monday. It is Memorial Day where we
memorialize and think about those that have died for our freedom.
You know, I talked about this on the Fork Report
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on Saturday, and I know that it sounds so I
don't know pandering, I don't even know the right word.
But the reality is the reason why we celebrate, we
get to have, you know, good times with our family,
which we should do, is because somebody has given their life.
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And in addition to that, the families of those people
that are still alive or outlived their family member that
gave their lives are sacrificing on the daily and there's
power in that. So when people say, you know, it's
is it somber? I don't think it needs to be somber,
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because the whole point when somebody gives their life for us,
it's I want you to live. I don't want you
to mourn me for the whole time. So it's this
weird balance of the joy of being alive and enjoying
our freed freedoms here in the United States and the
payment that it took. So my hope in my prayer
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today is that we are thoughtful about those that gave
that sacrifice, but we're also enjoying ourselves in honor of
that sacrifice. It's not modeling or it's about, hey, we
this has been paid for that we need to enjoy
it and to connect with each other. So whatever you
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might be doing today, I sure appreciate you taking the
time to pop in here. I was listening to Amy
King and the wake Up Call today. Good morning Amy. Hello,
So that was interesting. You're talking about Gwen and I mean,
that guy's just a genius anyways, he's just Kurtis Stone, Yeah,
he is. Chef Stone is an incredibly talented guy. I'm
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trying to figure out and I only heard bits and
pieces and it's not the first time I've heard it, right, Hello,
it's not the first time I heard that, right, Okay,
Hey listen, nobody nobody in radio right now is live
except us, So it's all right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This was an out and about segment. In fact, if
you want to watch the whole thing. You can see it.
It's on my Instagram at Amy K King.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Awesome. Yeah, I encourage people to do that. So I'm
trying to process. I only heard the little bits of
it this time. Process Why you would let it rest?
You were saying that he would put the steak in
a lower temperature. I'm going to guess it was indirect heating.
Indirect heating means it was over an open flame.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Over an open flame, that's the only way he cooks it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, that makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So he says, get the meat, which he had. It
was a New York strip steak.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Up to room temperature? No, yeah, no, he said, I know.
They all said season it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They all say that. Let me tell you something about this,
and there was a science done this. It drives me nuts.
All chefs say this, get up to room temperature. To
get a steak up to room temperature is to leave
a steak out, for a raw steak out for longer
than two hours, which makes it bad.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But you encourage can have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They did this whole study on it, and I don't know.
It's one of those things that chefs still say now
you can if you take a steak and I you know,
don't waste steak. But if you take a steak out
of your refrigerator, out of refrigeration, and you put it
at room temperature, which is about seventy one degrees, and
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you wait for that steak at let's say thirty five degrees,
come to seventy one degrees, I guarantee in two hours
it may be dropped by ten degrees. Maybe. I don't
know why chefs say this. They all say it, all
of them say it. But you can't do it. You
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cannot do that. Take a steak and try it. Well.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I had one of my friend's brother's sister whatever is
a butcher, and.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
She did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What take it out?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, she was all about getting it up to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They all do it, they take it out.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh, there's got to be a reason everybody does it, Neil.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, I'm telling you something. It. The theory behind it
is this that heat, when you're using heat, like direct heat,
the heat has to push through whatever you're cooking to
get to the center. That's why a medium rare steak
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is not medium rare the whole way through. That's why
they say it's a warm, pink center because the whole
steak is going to be gradations of dunness because that
heat has to travel into the center. The problem is
that the battle between cold and hot. You know, heat
is something. Cold is not cold is the absence of heat.
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Heat is actually something. So the heat has to push
into that cold steak and battle with it for temperature.
The thought behind it is if you make it seventy
one degrees, then the battle is less, so it's going
to be more evenly cooked. I'm saying scientifically. The folks.
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Kenji Lopez Alt, who is a food scientist, tested this
theory a bunch of times and never could get it
to room temperature without it going bad first.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And is he an award winning chef.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes, actually he is a massive award he is the
Here's the thing. Chefs are taught by apprentice style. Apprentice
style is due as I do, and don't question. That's
why the reverse seer came much later, and chefs still
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to this day will say things like, it's sears in
the juices. You cannot sear in juices. It is impossible.
You can't do it. It's scientifically impossible. And yet I hear.
I hear pitmasters, and I hear chefs do it all
the time, because chefs are not scientists, so the science
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says it can't be done. I have to lean on that.
So I hear stuff like that all the time. But
if you take a twelve ounce steak that's an inch thick,
and you put it out from a thirty five degree
refrigerator on your counter for two hours, it will not
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hit seventy one degrees and it will be bad because
having raw meat out at seventy one degrees room temperature
for two hours makes the bacteria double every twenty minutes.
That's science, that's skians, that's skiants man, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, so Curtis Stone says, bring it up to near
temperature and then cook it on the grill, right, cook
it on the grill. No oven, no pan searing, none
of that on the grill. But in between the grilling,
you rest it for a few minutes, and then you
put it back on and then you rest it for
a few minutes. And you'll have to go back and
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listen to the interview to find out why he says that.
But boy, that steak that he cooked for me was
the best steak I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I have no doubt he is known for his cooking.
I'm just saying that you're not getting that steak up
to seventy one degrees.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Maybe it was a sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Who knows sixty eight degrees. Maybe it was a general rule.
Maybe he's saying take it out early.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then the other thing they let I hear all
the one a little bit is they say let it rest.
You go for what for five minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
After it's done.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I think that heat was talking about how you don't
need to rest the steaks the way that you cook them,
the way that he cooks them.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
No, because he gets it up to high heat. It
sounds like he's getting it up to high heat, first
taking it to let it cool down, and then searing
it off because he's only putting on for a couple
of minutes at the end, right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Fat side down. Fact you have to go about. You
have to go back and listen to it. It's really interesting.
You'll have to go back and listen.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He's putting it sideways a New York steak.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
He cooked it on all four sides. I watched him.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I sleep fat side down.
When we come back, we're gonna have some news for
your promise. Hey, Cono, feel a little triggered there, Neil, Yeah,
it drives me nuts. Like the best chefs in the
world say some stupid things, and I'm like, why why
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do we still say it sears in the juices and
let it come to room temp or let it rest
for five minutes. You know what the science is. Let
it rest until it's one hundred and twenty degrees then
cut it. But he's never getting it above. Oh boy,
I'm going back to my grill and how are you.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I'm doing great. This is fun. It's a whole different start.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Ruined my whole Memorial Day. Let it get to room
tempt yourself to room temp. All right, let's start some
handle on the news lead story, all right. US Attorney
Bill helped me with this. Samy announced this week a
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pilot program that he dubbed you gotta love this Operation
Guardian Angel. And this is intended to neutralize a sanctuary
state laws. So the office identifies individuals with you know,
criminal records and all that who've been deported and charges
them with illegally re entering the United States and doing
it as a federal crime. I don't think I have
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a problem with that, right what would be the I
don't understand sanctuary cities in that set. I mean, take
care of people. I don't think you need to be
nasty to people, but I don't understand what that is.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Trump threatens tariffs, then pulls them right back off the
table for now. As you may recall, President Trump on
Friday said, hey, you know what, let's put fifty percent
tariffs on the European Union because a deal isn't coming
together like I want. So then the stock markets and
everybody freaked out. And then on Sunday he said, let's
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extend that. So instead of starting June first, these tariffs
will apparently be delayed until July ninth. The President says
it came after he talked to the president of the
European Communion Communion European Commission. He says they requested an extension.
I agreed to it, and the European Union president vander
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Lyon said she had a good call with Trump. She
said Europe is ready to advance talks swiftly and decisively.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Didn't you say, like you know, every time there's no
deal is he just playing around. Is he just pushing
his cards forward and then pulling them back, pushing them
forward and pulling them back.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's to force people's hands, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I agree that. I agree that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The thread of tariffs, I think is getting people to
the table and then he backs off while they negotiate,
and then if things aren't moving forward, then he goes,
you know what, nothing's happening. We're going to threaten those
tariffs again. And that's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I agree. And there was also a gosh, there was
a story that we talked about, I think last Friday
with Bill where it was Craft that is putting three
billion dollars back into their factories here in the US
to bring more of that, and I think those little things.
I was talking with Anne off the air that if
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we get twenty five percent more, I mean, I don't
there's no way we're going to get everything that Trump wants,
But if we just get twenty five or something more,
I'd be good. I would be totally. I think that
was a win, you know, just a little bit more
back in the US. I'm not saying we're gonna fire up,
you know, Detroit again, but just a little bit more.
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I think what could be a win. Fifth anniversary or
of George Floyd's murder was not celebrated, but many took
to memorializing the fifth anniversary. Even here in Los Angeles,
people met around. I think it was targets. Did you
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hear that or see any of that? Yesterday? Amy? Not
yesterday but Saturday? Or was it would have been yesterday? Sorry,
where they had gathered at many of the targets and
stuff like that, apparently because of DEI stuff going on there.
But what does that have to do with George Floyd. Well,
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it's all tied together, is how. Here's activism. I don't
trust anything that by its very definition, it's like the pharmaceuticals. Yeah,
they got a pill for everything and a cure for nothing.
So it's like that's how I feel about activism. It's like,
if it cured, these people would be out of a job.
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So you have police reform and civil rights activists that
are joining thousands of people on Sunday marking the fifth
anniversary of George Floyd's murder and being concerned about Trump
Trump Administration's actions that they say have set all this back,
all their efforts back decades, and of course you got
the Reverend now Sharpton, who still looks odd after the
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weight loss surgery and the hair. It's like trim the
back of the hair. He said at a Houston Gravesite
service that Floyd represented all those who are defenseless against
the people who thought they could put their knee on
our neck. He continued to liken it to Emmett Till,
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fourteen year old black boy who was abducted and lynched
in Mississippi in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I think that's a false equivalent.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, it's a look at you pulling the the informal
logical fallacies out amy, stop it. Do you know the Latin? No? Okay,
but yeah, I thought that was It's like one of
those jumps to Hitler in an argument.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
A mob of vandals is trashed downtown LA. Several businesses,
metro trains, and even a police vehicle vandalized and what
turned out to be a rather chaotic scene in downtown
LA over the weekend. It happened just after midnight Saturday,
so early early Sunday morning, LAPD got a call about
a large group disturbance. It was about three hundred people
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who were up partying on a rooftop at what appeared
to be an abandoned building.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
What can go wrong?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Right, So then they hit to this, they hit the streets.
Officers tried to break up the crowd using rubber bulleps.
They issued several warnings, they were ignored. There were illegal fireworks,
drug use, public drinking, and a whole lot of graffiti
and metros is about fifty people even blocked two A
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line trains and then got into one of the trains
and started spray painting it up and it interrupted Metro
service for a time. Nobody was hurt and no arrests
were made.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Cono, fireworks, graffiti, the what are the odds there are
people I'm just saying, man, very likely, yeah, Amy, What
was the Why were they gathered at all? Was there
any reason for them being in a three hundred person group.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It was an unpermitted rooftop event at what appeared to
be an an abandoned building.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Now that makes a little bit of sense. They were partying.
It was just a party, and they ended up lea
because I was like, what was going on? This doesn't
tie to any particular protest? Drug use, public drinking.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, it wasn't a protest.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It was some sort of a party and then they said, hey,
let's hit the streets.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Wow, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, And we don't know, it's hard to We don't
have the exact details, like did they disperse because the
police showed up at the party so everybody flooded out
of the building and then hit the streets, or why
they moved from the rooftop down onto the streets.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Can we see a show of hands of anybody who
in the room that's been shot at by rubber bullets?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I have not you have me and codo.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh yeah, I still have them. I still have some
of them.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was in the riot, the nineteen ninety nine riots
downtown why because I was broadcasting and I got locked
out of the Staples Center and my partner, Tim Kelly
was in there and I was on my cell phone.
Our security was actually shot and taken to the hospital.
They were they took one of them, took it in
the ear and the leg and one of them and
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so they so I was without security roaming the streets
and I still have them to this day. I still
have those rubber bullets to this day. And then they
had these larger ones that they'd shoot at the ground
at a forty five degree angle and they'd ricochet up
into the group. And strangely enough, La Times went to
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interview me. I was the only host live on the
air at that time. I was riding on the back
of a ups truck to get from point to point
they because they were trying to get around over there
in Olympic and something. And I'm on the cell phone
and they station's calling me to say get out of there,
and I'm not answering. I'm like, I'm going to stay
here as long as I can. But it was, it
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was crazy fascinating. LA Times interviewed me and I and
I told them what I saw, which was the protesters
throwing bottles of urine and rocks at the cops before
the cops did anything. And they didn't print that. They
only took this, you know, all this stuff. I remember
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distinctly going that is crap. I'm like, no, I was
right there at the skirmish line there when they read
the right literally read the Riot Act over a loud
speaker to say my press badges all that means nothing.
When they do that, I was just like anybody else
at that time. But I thought they held themselves quite well.
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The lapd You know, what are you gonna do? Anyways?
That's that one of about four riots I've been in.
Any Ways, that should be a nice more stories. Oh yeah,
little punk rocker, we got those riots all the time. Okay,
it is a different time. I'm a different guy. I'm
way heavier, run slower, so I do better things. It
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is Memorial Day. I hope you are thinking about those
that have given the ultimate sacrifice for us to be
able to enjoy ourselves. Have some barbecue sales. Anybody buying
anything today? Anyone? Do you do that where you keep
stuff in your Amazon cart or whatever for later?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And you know what, Bill Handle, who's off Today's got
to be very sad because Costco is closed today.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Oh is it really good for them?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm the only one that keeps it in the cart.
Huh for later?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I don't generally if I buy something, I want it now.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You don't have like a holding tank of things. Yeah.
My cart that I haven't purchased yet is up to
one point two million dollars in my cart. Nice, so
maybe I should buy some of that maybe some get
off of mine but actually buy stuff. All right, Neil
Sevadra here with the morning crew handles taking the day off.
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It's kind of nice, right, just us, you do what
we want.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Did Ann find out if anybody else is in the building?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And would you like to tell everybody what you found out? Uh? Yeah,
So we sent Ann. We got eight stations here at
I Heart Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
We sent him on a mission.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. And so well, let me say, I've met some
really nice board ops upstairs people haven't met, but no,
nobody's live. Yeah, I think everybody's on tape. I think
Moe is live tonight. Moe Kelly has a work ethic
like nobody's business.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yes he does.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And you know what he'll tell you if you ask him,
He'll say, you know, I do not take this this
job for granted. And if my audience wants to hang out,
I'm going to hang out with them. He tries to
never take time off. But uh, hope Gary's by the pool.
I wish was the only one laughing at that. Ah. Okay,
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let's get back to the news, shall we. Top Republicans.
These are prominent US senators Warren Trump to get serious
about addressing budget deficit or they're going to block the
Big Beautiful Bill. So you have these fiscal hawks, and
I know Handel talks about this all the time, saying
that they don't exist anymore. Well, apparently they do, at
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least just a few of them, and they're pushing back.
So not everybody's in lockstep with the Orange Man. And
right now they're pushing back and they're saying that, you know,
they're going to block the passage of this tax cutting
legislation known as the Big Beautiful Bill if they don't
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get some of these concessions.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And he doesn't have much of a margin. He's got
a couple more than he had last last time. But
it is it fifty three cent senators are Republican and
it's already passed the House, so now it's in the
Senate's hands. Any thoughts whether it'll get through. I think
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it'll get through.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's pretty persuasive, but we Chelsea, well, I think.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Part of it is he's got so much power that
he's like, we'll just primary you if you don't vote in.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, that's what Handles as well.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Okay, So there's fifty three
Republicans and forty five Democrats and two independents. One of
those is Bernie Sanders, who caucuses with the Democrats anyway.
But so they don't have much of a margin, so
they can't lose more than three.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yep, trump'sys Putin has gone crazy. Russia launched its biggest
drone attack yet on Ukraine in the more than three
year war. President Trump said Vladimir Putin is going crazy
by stepping up the bombing of Ukraine just as the
US is trying to get a peace deal. The bombardment
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last night included three hundred and fifty five drones. The
night before, Russia fired almost three hundred drones and sixty
nine missiles. So from Friday till Sunday, Russia has launched
about nine hundred drones at Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Man, Yeah, that is not getting better. And I feel
like everybody's kind of waiting for it to kind of
resolve itself, and it's not. So it gets uglier before
it gets better. A Texas House on Sunday pass Senate
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Bill ten. It's a measure requiring the display of the
Ten Commandments in every public school classroom in the State.
So this law is going to have court challenges. It's
just going to put potential violation of the Establishment clause
there in the First Amendment US Constitution. Kind of big
deal around here. So in this case, and I don't
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understand I, as many of you know, I'm a theologian,
a Christian apologist, which means a defense for an idea
and Christian philosophy and all these things. I've been part
of my life since I was about eighteen seventeen eighteen.
So I look at this and I try and tell people,
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first of all, the ten Commandments are for the most part,
are split in half. Five are about our relationship with
God and the other five are about our relationship with
each other, how we should treat each other, and how
we should treat God. And you may go, hey, but
that's what I believe. It'll be great to have it
up there. The problem is, you may be in the
(25:51):
majority now, but you might not be one day in
the United States. And are you going to want Sharia law?
Are you going to want Satanic law? Are you going
to want you can't say Jewish because Judeo Christian is synonymous.
Are you going to want a different belief system, scientology, whatever.
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It might be something that you might not agree with
up there, and to me, it's highly problematic on its face.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I would also say that if the Satanists are the majority,
then we have a whole other problem.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
In the US well.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Satanists. Though the Church of Satan is not what people
think it is. Church of Satan is a philosophical belief system.
It's atheism.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, but here's what I think about this. If you
look at the Ten Commandments, like you said, there's the
five and the five. If you look at them, they're
kind of like a nice set of guidelines.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But I totally agree with you, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
If they shouldn't be in the school, I mean, it
does violate all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Constitutional laws were built upon that upon the ones that
are judicial in nature. Don't murder, don't steal those types
of things.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And don't cove it, don't sit there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Like if you look at the practicality of them, don't
covet thy neighbor's property and thy wife.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's basically saying, if you just spend all of your
time wanting what somebody else has, you're going to be miserable. Yeah,
I mean it's they're good common sense laws.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Absolutely rules. The vast majority of those rules obviously have
have a place in our system. They do. But when
you get the religious part of it, yeah, I think
it becomes highly problematic and you end up opening the door.
It's like, oh, I want, you know, prayer in schools. Okay,
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I want prayer before you know, before graduation ceremonies them. Okay, fine,
Well what about when the Church of Satan says we
want our shot. Oh well, I was, I just met
Christian prayer. We'll deal Jewish too, because they got the
first half of them. But work good with that. But
you know, you can't you can't do that just because
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you're the majority. You still have to have some leeway there.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So, got time for one more.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Let's do it?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Uh? Could a deal be close? President Trump says there
has been progress made with Iran on its nuclear program,
and he's hinting now that announcement could come in the
next couple of days. He's like saying, I'm not saying
for sure that it's happening, but there could be a deal.
He said they've had some very good talks with Iran,
emphasized real progress has been made serious progress, he says.
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Oman's mediator to the talks between the US and Iran
said on Friday that the two nations had made some
but not conclusive progress. So that was on Friday. Trump
is saying more progress has been made over the weekend.
We shall see fingers crossed. Eh yep, Yeah. Can I
tell you something? I don't want to talk to you, Okay,
(28:55):
I was going to tell you something really cool. I
was going to give you a gift.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But that's all right. Think those kids when you were younger. Okay, Well,
it's gonna be really cool. It's gonna be really big
and huge. I was gonna give it to you, but
now I want because you you won't listen to me,
So it was gonna be great. You be really great.
Fingers crossed for our country. This is KFI heard everywhere
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six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Good morning
to you, Happy Monday. It is Memorial Day where we
memorialize and think about those that have died for our freedom.
You know, I talked about this on the Fork Report
(00:41):
on Saturday, and I know that it sounds so I
don't know pandering, I don't even know the right word.
But the reality is the reason why we celebrate, we
get to have, you know, good times with our family,
which we should do, is because somebody has given their life.
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And in addition to that, the families of those people
that are still alive or outlived their family member that
gave their lives are sacrificing on the daily and there's
power in that. So when people say, you know, it's
is it somber? I don't think it needs to be somber,
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because the whole point when somebody gives their life for us,
it's I want you to live. I don't want you
to mourn me for the whole time. So it's this
weird balance of the joy of being alive and enjoying
our freed freedoms here in the United States and the
payment that it took. So my hope in my prayer
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today is that we are thoughtful about those that gave
that sacrifice, but we're also enjoying ourselves in honor of
that sacrifice. It's not modeling or it's about, hey, we
this has been paid for that we need to enjoy
it and to connect with each other. So whatever you
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might be doing today, I sure appreciate you taking the
time to pop in here. I was listening to Amy
King and the wake Up Call today. Good morning Amy. Hello,
So that was interesting. You're talking about Gwen and I mean,
that guy's just a genius anyways, he's just Kurtis Stone, Yeah,
he is. Chef Stone is an incredibly talented guy. I'm
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trying to figure out and I only heard bits and
pieces and it's not the first time I've heard it, right, Hello,
it's not the first time I heard that, right, Okay,
Hey listen, nobody nobody in radio right now is live
except us, So it's all right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This was an out and about segment. In fact, if
you want to watch the whole thing. You can see it.
It's on my Instagram at Amy K King.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Awesome. Yeah, I encourage people to do that. So I'm
trying to process. I only heard the little bits of
it this time. Process Why you would let it rest?
You were saying that he would put the steak in
a lower temperature. I'm going to guess it was indirect heating.
Indirect heating means it was over an open flame.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Over an open flame, that's the only way he cooks it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, that makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So he says, get the meat, which he had. It
was a New York strip steak.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Up to room temperature? No, yeah, no, he said, I know.
They all said season it.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
They all say that. Let me tell you something about this,
and there was a science done this. It drives me nuts.
All chefs say this, get up to room temperature. To
get a steak up to room temperature is to leave
a steak out, for a raw steak out for longer
than two hours, which makes it bad.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But you encourage can have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They did this whole study on it, and I don't know.
It's one of those things that chefs still say now
you can if you take a steak and I you know,
don't waste steak. But if you take a steak out
of your refrigerator, out of refrigeration, and you put it
at room temperature, which is about seventy one degrees, and
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you wait for that steak at let's say thirty five degrees,
come to seventy one degrees, I guarantee in two hours
it may be dropped by ten degrees. Maybe. I don't
know why chefs say this. They all say it, all
of them say it. But you can't do it. You
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cannot do that. Take a steak and try it. Well.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I had one of my friend's brother's sister whatever is
a butcher, and.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
She did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What take it out?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, she was all about getting it up to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They all do it, they take it out.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Oh, there's got to be a reason everybody does it, Neil.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
No, I'm telling you something. It. The theory behind it
is this that heat, when you're using heat, like direct heat,
the heat has to push through whatever you're cooking to
get to the center. That's why a medium rare steak
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is not medium rare the whole way through. That's why
they say it's a warm, pink center because the whole
steak is going to be gradations of dunness because that
heat has to travel into the center. The problem is
that the battle between cold and hot. You know, heat
is something. Cold is not cold is the absence of heat.
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Heat is actually something. So the heat has to push
into that cold steak and battle with it for temperature.
The thought behind it is if you make it seventy
one degrees, then the battle is less, so it's going
to be more evenly cooked. I'm saying scientifically. The folks.
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Kenji Lopez Alt, who is a food scientist, tested this
theory a bunch of times and never could get it
to room temperature without it going bad first.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And is he an award winning chef.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yes, actually he is a massive award he is the
Here's the thing. Chefs are taught by apprentice style. Apprentice
style is due as I do, and don't question. That's
why the reverse seer came much later, and chefs still
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to this day will say things like, it's sears in
the juices. You cannot sear in juices. It is impossible.
You can't do it. It's scientifically impossible. And yet I hear.
I hear pitmasters, and I hear chefs do it all
the time, because chefs are not scientists, so the science
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says it can't be done. I have to lean on that.
So I hear stuff like that all the time. But
if you take a twelve ounce steak that's an inch thick,
and you put it out from a thirty five degree
refrigerator on your counter for two hours, it will not
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hit seventy one degrees and it will be bad because
having raw meat out at seventy one degrees room temperature
for two hours makes the bacteria double every twenty minutes.
That's science, that's skians, that's skiants man, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, so Curtis Stone says, bring it up to near
temperature and then cook it on the grill, right, cook
it on the grill. No oven, no pan searing, none
of that on the grill. But in between the grilling,
you rest it for a few minutes, and then you
put it back on and then you rest it for
a few minutes. And you'll have to go back and
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listen to the interview to find out why he says that.
But boy, that steak that he cooked for me was
the best steak I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I have no doubt he is known for his cooking.
I'm just saying that you're not getting that steak up
to seventy one degrees.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Maybe it was a sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Who knows sixty eight degrees. Maybe it was a general rule.
Maybe he's saying take it out early.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then the other thing they let I hear all
the one a little bit is they say let it rest.
You go for what for five minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
After it's done.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I think that heat was talking about how you don't
need to rest the steaks the way that you cook them,
the way that he cooks them.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
No, because he gets it up to high heat. It
sounds like he's getting it up to high heat, first
taking it to let it cool down, and then searing
it off because he's only putting on for a couple
of minutes at the end, right.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Fat side down. Fact you have to go about. You
have to go back and listen to it. It's really interesting.
You'll have to go back and listen.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He's putting it sideways a New York steak.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
He cooked it on all four sides. I watched him.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I sleep fat side down.
When we come back, we're gonna have some news for
your promise. Hey, Cono, feel a little triggered there, Neil, Yeah,
it drives me nuts. Like the best chefs in the
world say some stupid things, and I'm like, why why
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do we still say it sears in the juices and
let it come to room temp or let it rest
for five minutes. You know what the science is. Let
it rest until it's one hundred and twenty degrees then
cut it. But he's never getting it above. Oh boy,
I'm going back to my grill and how are you.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I'm doing great. This is fun. It's a whole different start.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Ruined my whole Memorial Day. Let it get to room
tempt yourself to room temp. All right, let's start some
handle on the news lead story, all right. US Attorney
Bill helped me with this. Samy announced this week a
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pilot program that he dubbed you gotta love this Operation
Guardian Angel. And this is intended to neutralize a sanctuary
state laws. So the office identifies individuals with you know,
criminal records and all that who've been deported and charges
them with illegally re entering the United States and doing
it as a federal crime. I don't think I have
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a problem with that, right what would be the I
don't understand sanctuary cities in that set. I mean, take
care of people. I don't think you need to be
nasty to people, but I don't understand what that is.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Trump threatens tariffs, then pulls them right back off the
table for now. As you may recall, President Trump on
Friday said, hey, you know what, let's put fifty percent
tariffs on the European Union because a deal isn't coming
together like I want. So then the stock markets and
everybody freaked out. And then on Sunday he said, let's
(11:31):
extend that. So instead of starting June first, these tariffs
will apparently be delayed until July ninth. The President says
it came after he talked to the president of the
European Communion Communion European Commission. He says they requested an extension.
I agreed to it, and the European Union president vander
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Lyon said she had a good call with Trump. She
said Europe is ready to advance talks swiftly and decisively.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Didn't you say, like you know, every time there's no
deal is he just playing around. Is he just pushing
his cards forward and then pulling them back, pushing them
forward and pulling them back.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's to force people's hands, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I agree that. I agree that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
The thread of tariffs, I think is getting people to
the table and then he backs off while they negotiate,
and then if things aren't moving forward, then he goes,
you know what, nothing's happening. We're going to threaten those
tariffs again. And that's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I agree. And there was also a gosh, there was
a story that we talked about, I think last Friday
with Bill where it was Craft that is putting three
billion dollars back into their factories here in the US
to bring more of that, and I think those little things.
I was talking with Anne off the air that if
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we get twenty five percent more, I mean, I don't
there's no way we're going to get everything that Trump wants,
But if we just get twenty five or something more,
I'd be good. I would be totally. I think that
was a win, you know, just a little bit more
back in the US. I'm not saying we're gonna fire up,
you know, Detroit again, but just a little bit more.
(13:12):
I think what could be a win. Fifth anniversary or
of George Floyd's murder was not celebrated, but many took
to memorializing the fifth anniversary. Even here in Los Angeles,
people met around. I think it was targets. Did you
(13:34):
hear that or see any of that? Yesterday? Amy? Not
yesterday but Saturday? Or was it would have been yesterday? Sorry,
where they had gathered at many of the targets and
stuff like that, apparently because of DEI stuff going on there.
But what does that have to do with George Floyd. Well,
(13:55):
it's all tied together, is how. Here's activism. I don't
trust anything that by its very definition, it's like the pharmaceuticals. Yeah,
they got a pill for everything and a cure for nothing.
So it's like that's how I feel about activism. It's like,
if it cured, these people would be out of a job.
(14:18):
So you have police reform and civil rights activists that
are joining thousands of people on Sunday marking the fifth
anniversary of George Floyd's murder and being concerned about Trump
Trump Administration's actions that they say have set all this back,
all their efforts back decades, and of course you got
the Reverend now Sharpton, who still looks odd after the
(14:42):
weight loss surgery and the hair. It's like trim the
back of the hair. He said at a Houston Gravesite
service that Floyd represented all those who are defenseless against
the people who thought they could put their knee on
our neck. He continued to liken it to Emmett Till,
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fourteen year old black boy who was abducted and lynched
in Mississippi in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I think that's a false equivalent.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, it's a look at you pulling the the informal
logical fallacies out amy, stop it. Do you know the Latin? No? Okay,
but yeah, I thought that was It's like one of
those jumps to Hitler in an argument.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
A mob of vandals is trashed downtown LA. Several businesses,
metro trains, and even a police vehicle vandalized and what
turned out to be a rather chaotic scene in downtown
LA over the weekend. It happened just after midnight Saturday,
so early early Sunday morning, LAPD got a call about
a large group disturbance. It was about three hundred people
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who were up partying on a rooftop at what appeared
to be an abandoned building.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
What can go wrong?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Right, So then they hit to this, they hit the streets.
Officers tried to break up the crowd using rubber bulleps.
They issued several warnings, they were ignored. There were illegal fireworks,
drug use, public drinking, and a whole lot of graffiti
and metros is about fifty people even blocked two A
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line trains and then got into one of the trains
and started spray painting it up and it interrupted Metro
service for a time. Nobody was hurt and no arrests
were made.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Cono, fireworks, graffiti, the what are the odds there are
people I'm just saying, man, very likely, yeah, Amy, What
was the Why were they gathered at all? Was there
any reason for them being in a three hundred person group.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It was an unpermitted rooftop event at what appeared to
be an an abandoned building.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Now that makes a little bit of sense. They were partying.
It was just a party, and they ended up lea
because I was like, what was going on? This doesn't
tie to any particular protest? Drug use, public drinking.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, it wasn't a protest.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
It was some sort of a party and then they said, hey,
let's hit the streets.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Wow, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, And we don't know, it's hard to We don't
have the exact details, like did they disperse because the
police showed up at the party so everybody flooded out
of the building and then hit the streets, or why
they moved from the rooftop down onto the streets.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Can we see a show of hands of anybody who
in the room that's been shot at by rubber bullets?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I have not you have me and codo.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh yeah, I still have them. I still have some
of them.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was in the riot, the nineteen ninety nine riots
downtown why because I was broadcasting and I got locked
out of the Staples Center and my partner, Tim Kelly
was in there and I was on my cell phone.
Our security was actually shot and taken to the hospital.
They were they took one of them, took it in
the ear and the leg and one of them and
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so they so I was without security roaming the streets
and I still have them to this day. I still
have those rubber bullets to this day. And then they
had these larger ones that they'd shoot at the ground
at a forty five degree angle and they'd ricochet up
into the group. And strangely enough, La Times went to
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interview me. I was the only host live on the
air at that time. I was riding on the back
of a ups truck to get from point to point
they because they were trying to get around over there
in Olympic and something. And I'm on the cell phone
and they station's calling me to say get out of there,
and I'm not answering. I'm like, I'm going to stay
here as long as I can. But it was, it
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was crazy fascinating. LA Times interviewed me and I and
I told them what I saw, which was the protesters
throwing bottles of urine and rocks at the cops before
the cops did anything. And they didn't print that. They
only took this, you know, all this stuff. I remember
(19:23):
distinctly going that is crap. I'm like, no, I was
right there at the skirmish line there when they read
the right literally read the Riot Act over a loud
speaker to say my press badges all that means nothing.
When they do that, I was just like anybody else
at that time. But I thought they held themselves quite well.
(19:45):
The lapd You know, what are you gonna do? Anyways?
That's that one of about four riots I've been in.
Any Ways, that should be a nice more stories. Oh yeah,
little punk rocker, we got those riots all the time. Okay,
it is a different time. I'm a different guy. I'm
way heavier, run slower, so I do better things. It
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is Memorial Day. I hope you are thinking about those
that have given the ultimate sacrifice for us to be
able to enjoy ourselves. Have some barbecue sales. Anybody buying
anything today? Anyone? Do you do that where you keep
stuff in your Amazon cart or whatever for later?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And you know what, Bill Handle, who's off Today's got
to be very sad because Costco is closed today.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Oh is it really good for them?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I'm the only one that keeps it in the cart.
Huh for later?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I don't generally if I buy something, I want it now.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You don't have like a holding tank of things. Yeah.
My cart that I haven't purchased yet is up to
one point two million dollars in my cart. Nice, so
maybe I should buy some of that maybe some get
off of mine but actually buy stuff. All right, Neil
Sevadra here with the morning crew handles taking the day off.
(21:04):
It's kind of nice, right, just us, you do what
we want.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Did Ann find out if anybody else is in the building?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And would you like to tell everybody what you found out? Uh? Yeah,
So we sent Ann. We got eight stations here at
I Heart Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
We sent him on a mission.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah. And so well, let me say, I've met some
really nice board ops upstairs people haven't met, but no,
nobody's live. Yeah, I think everybody's on tape. I think
Moe is live tonight. Moe Kelly has a work ethic
like nobody's business.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yes he does.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And you know what he'll tell you if you ask him,
He'll say, you know, I do not take this this
job for granted. And if my audience wants to hang out,
I'm going to hang out with them. He tries to
never take time off. But uh, hope Gary's by the pool.
I wish was the only one laughing at that. Ah. Okay,
(22:04):
let's get back to the news, shall we. Top Republicans.
These are prominent US senators Warren Trump to get serious
about addressing budget deficit or they're going to block the
Big Beautiful Bill. So you have these fiscal hawks, and
I know Handel talks about this all the time, saying
that they don't exist anymore. Well, apparently they do, at
(22:25):
least just a few of them, and they're pushing back.
So not everybody's in lockstep with the Orange Man. And
right now they're pushing back and they're saying that, you know,
they're going to block the passage of this tax cutting
legislation known as the Big Beautiful Bill if they don't
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get some of these concessions.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And he doesn't have much of a margin. He's got
a couple more than he had last last time. But
it is it fifty three cent senators are Republican and
it's already passed the House, so now it's in the
Senate's hands. Any thoughts whether it'll get through. I think
(23:09):
it'll get through.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He's pretty persuasive, but we Chelsea, well, I think.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Part of it is he's got so much power that
he's like, we'll just primary you if you don't vote in.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, that's what Handles as well.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Okay, So there's fifty three
Republicans and forty five Democrats and two independents. One of
those is Bernie Sanders, who caucuses with the Democrats anyway.
But so they don't have much of a margin, so
they can't lose more than three.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yep, trump'sys Putin has gone crazy. Russia launched its biggest
drone attack yet on Ukraine in the more than three
year war. President Trump said Vladimir Putin is going crazy
by stepping up the bombing of Ukraine just as the
US is trying to get a peace deal. The bombardment
(24:07):
last night included three hundred and fifty five drones. The
night before, Russia fired almost three hundred drones and sixty
nine missiles. So from Friday till Sunday, Russia has launched
about nine hundred drones at Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Man, Yeah, that is not getting better. And I feel
like everybody's kind of waiting for it to kind of
resolve itself, and it's not. So it gets uglier before
it gets better. A Texas House on Sunday pass Senate
(24:43):
Bill ten. It's a measure requiring the display of the
Ten Commandments in every public school classroom in the State.
So this law is going to have court challenges. It's
just going to put potential violation of the Establishment clause
there in the First Amendment US Constitution. Kind of big
deal around here. So in this case, and I don't
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understand I, as many of you know, I'm a theologian,
a Christian apologist, which means a defense for an idea
and Christian philosophy and all these things. I've been part
of my life since I was about eighteen seventeen eighteen.
So I look at this and I try and tell people,
(25:29):
first of all, the ten Commandments are for the most part,
are split in half. Five are about our relationship with
God and the other five are about our relationship with
each other, how we should treat each other, and how
we should treat God. And you may go, hey, but
that's what I believe. It'll be great to have it
up there. The problem is, you may be in the
(25:51):
majority now, but you might not be one day in
the United States. And are you going to want Sharia law?
Are you going to want Satanic law? Are you going
to want you can't say Jewish because Judeo Christian is synonymous.
Are you going to want a different belief system, scientology, whatever.
(26:13):
It might be something that you might not agree with
up there, and to me, it's highly problematic on its face.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I would also say that if the Satanists are the majority,
then we have a whole other problem.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
In the US well.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Satanists. Though the Church of Satan is not what people
think it is. Church of Satan is a philosophical belief system.
It's atheism.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, but here's what I think about this. If you
look at the Ten Commandments, like you said, there's the
five and the five. If you look at them, they're
kind of like a nice set of guidelines.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But I totally agree with you, Like.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
If they shouldn't be in the school, I mean, it
does violate all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Constitutional laws were built upon that upon the ones that
are judicial in nature. Don't murder, don't steal those types
of things.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And don't cove it, don't sit there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Like if you look at the practicality of them, don't
covet thy neighbor's property and thy wife.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's basically saying, if you just spend all of your
time wanting what somebody else has, you're going to be miserable. Yeah,
I mean it's they're good common sense laws.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Absolutely rules. The vast majority of those rules obviously have
have a place in our system. They do. But when
you get the religious part of it, yeah, I think
it becomes highly problematic and you end up opening the door.
It's like, oh, I want, you know, prayer in schools. Okay,
(27:42):
I want prayer before you know, before graduation ceremonies them. Okay, fine,
Well what about when the Church of Satan says we
want our shot. Oh well, I was, I just met
Christian prayer. We'll deal Jewish too, because they got the
first half of them. But work good with that. But
you know, you can't you can't do that just because
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you're the majority. You still have to have some leeway there.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So, got time for one more.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Let's do it?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Uh? Could a deal be close? President Trump says there
has been progress made with Iran on its nuclear program,
and he's hinting now that announcement could come in the
next couple of days. He's like saying, I'm not saying
for sure that it's happening, but there could be a deal.
He said they've had some very good talks with Iran,
emphasized real progress has been made serious progress, he says.
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Oman's mediator to the talks between the US and Iran
said on Friday that the two nations had made some
but not conclusive progress. So that was on Friday. Trump
is saying more progress has been made over the weekend.
We shall see fingers crossed. Eh yep, Yeah. Can I
tell you something? I don't want to talk to you, Okay,
(28:55):
I was going to tell you something really cool. I
was going to give you a gift.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But that's all right. Think those kids when you were younger. Okay, Well,
it's gonna be really cool. It's gonna be really big
and huge. I was gonna give it to you, but
now I want because you you won't listen to me,
So it was gonna be great. You be really great.
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