June 23, 2025 • 20 mins
(June 23,2025)
All the Hollywood action is happening everywhere but Hollywood.. Millions of resumes never make it past the bots… one man is trying to find out why.Should irresponsible hikers be forced to pay for their rescue? This sheriff says yes.
All the Hollywood action is happening everywhere but Hollywood.. Millions of resumes never make it past the bots… one man is trying to find out why.Should irresponsible hikers be forced to pay for their rescue? This sheriff says yes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Handle here on a Monday morning, June twenty three, and
now the world is waiting for the Iranian response to
the American attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran by
B two bombers and other aircraft, American aircraft that bomb
(00:26):
those facilities. Let's move to a very local story, and
that is Hollywood. Hollywood being Hollywood, and this of course
is the movie capital of the world, except it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Really isn't anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
If La County were a country, the economy we be
among the world's twentieth largest, but it is heading south.
Payroll employment is one percent lower than at the end
of twenty nineteen before the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
For the rest of the country it's up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Five percent, and a big reason is the fall in
film and video production. La County employment in motion picture
and sound recording is down ten percent in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The number of shoot days, that's the number of days
that are.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's how they measure the amount of production. One measurement
is the number of days that they blocked off the
street going into my house and I had to go
all the way around. And they call it shoot days,
because that's what you want to do to these production
companies when your street is blocked off.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Shoot days are days.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
In which they film feature films, TV commercials. That fell
for the first third straight year in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
California's share of global projects.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now, keep in mind, Southern California was the world leader
still is, but it's falling in film production around the world.
It was twenty three percent in twenty twenty one. It's
now eighteen percent. So the President wants to fix it.
(02:14):
We all want to fix it because Hollywood is Hollywood
or the film center of the world. That's how we
got to be famous all over the world. The Hollywood sign,
I mean, this is sort of magic. Although if you
actually go to Hollywood, you're not going to see many
movie studios. There never were movie studios in Hollywood. They're
all in the San Fernando Valley or they're in West
(02:38):
LA where.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Sony studios are.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So the President proposed his favorite solution, tariffs on foreign
made films. Well, the Hollywood folks saying no, tariffs aren't
going to work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So here's what we want. More tax incentives.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And less red tape because the permitting process is crazy.
And how about more housing because people have to live
here and it has become prohibitive. And that's the story
we're going to do over and over again. So the
governor has proposed more than doubling the California's film and
(03:22):
TV text credit to seven hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And one of the reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That production is moving so quickly out of Southern California
is real simple.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's the cost, that's it. It's way too expensive.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There are tons of reasons why it should stay here.
Why film started here, actually started in New Jersey with Edison,
but and it quickly moved here at the turn of
the last century and Southern California, particularly quote Hollywood, became
the center of the entertainment business in terms of films
(04:01):
and later on television. Film television production has dropped and
is dropping dramatically, and it's really affecting our economy big
time because the entertainment business is huge for Southern California.
So what is going on, Well, a big reason for
(04:23):
the fall in film and video production. Just to give
you an idea, La County employment in motion picture and
sound recordings down ten percent since twenty nineteen, the number
of shoot days, as I said, fell for the.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Third straight year in twenty twenty four. It is not good.
And well, let me give you an example.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Disney's Marvel Studios, you know where they film Atlanta or
the UK. Netflix just expanded a production facility in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, broke round on a huge complex in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And here's one in in.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
The UK, there is more square footage of sound stage
than in southern California.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Two key reasons.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
One, other locations are offering lucrative, less restrictive incentives. They're
offering not only tax breaks, they're offering to underwritight to
pay for film production up to the point of thirty
percent of the cost of making a film. And here
in southern California there's no place for anybody to live anymore,
(05:33):
housing shortage, shortages aggravated by the wildfires. While the cost
of living here is prohibitive. Now La is a great
place to film. There's a reason why the film industry
really started here. Ocean mountains, desert within a few hours drive.
You can shoot almost any movie of any kind here.
(05:56):
And in terms of going outside on location, almost any
day you can shoot. You don't have to worry about
the weather because of our weather A god of them.
Ben Everard, a former chairman of Film LA, says it's
worth paying more for the talent pool here because of
the superior quality of the shows on the screen. However,
(06:20):
and this makes sense, we're living off of Hollywood's endowment.
The difference is the cost of filming is so great
now here that the films and TV shows don't have
to be as good. They just have to be good
enough because the cost is so high. And then you
(06:41):
have the recent raids and the protests. Now there's not
too many illegal migrants that work in the film industry, granted,
but it's about uncertainty and business hates uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And think about this.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The big name actors and the big name directors still
are here in southern California. It's the mid level people
that can't afford to be here. Same thing with Silicon Valley.
The high end people are there, the mid level people
are out. They can't afford to be there. Wall Street
top executives are there in New York, but the mid
(07:26):
tier jobs or go to other places. Cheaper housing, lower taxes,
and just the cost of doing business here not just
the taxes, not just the housing. But for example, the
cost of producing using a dog on the set is
(07:48):
almost one thousand dollars. That's one day for a dog.
Now you go to one of the major studios in
Hong Kong, it's a couple of dollars per day. And
it doesn't even pay to bring them back to their trainer.
They either let them go where they eat them. It's
just cheaper get them to the crafts people and you
(08:11):
have them for lunch. And this is a dog that
you hired to be on the set. It's a shame.
And so what the governor wants to do is increase
the tax the underwriting and the tax break. And here
is the problem, and this is where the cost the
(08:33):
taxpayer dollars. Does the film the filming of that movie
or that TV show and giving tax breaks and underwriting
it with tax money, does it do more for us
than not? Does it actually make money for the town
or does it cost money? And the detractors are saying,
(08:55):
if it costs us money, why do it. And for
people that argue we still want to keep the reputation
of Hollywood, go to Hollywood. Yeah, it's a nice place
to visit, but it's all tourism. It's all tourists. How
many people actually live in Hollywood walk along Hollywood Boulevard
(09:17):
or walk along Sunset?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Who live there?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, bill Wyn Tracy, my wife and I first
got married, We lived in Hollywood for two and a
half years, three years something like that, and we would
go in that area every now and again for things
that we needed. And we'd be walking through there and
you have to you're bombarded with people trying to sell
things a tourists and you'd have to go live.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Here, live here, live here, live here, and just.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And you were one in thousands. For example, go to
Las Vegas. How many people that live in Las Vegas
ever get near the strip? It is one hundred sent tourism.
You know, our friend Saville, my partner, you know, lives
in Vegas, and uh, when I go to visit him
(10:08):
and we'll go to dinner along the strip one of
the high end restaurants that he pays for, thank you,
it's two three times a years when he actually goes
along the strip. So Hollywood is really a myth, but
it's a nice myth and it and at one point,
and not too many years ago, Hollywood was really a sewer,
(10:30):
a toilet where they had adult film, these little adult
film palaces and dance clubs and strip clubs. And it
was actually Disney bringing the Capital Theater back that reversed it.
You have to give Disney, Michael Eisner a lot of
credit for bringing Hollywood back.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So it was similar. Pardon Times Square? I think was
it Disney that did Times Square too?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I think that was.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
What's his face? The Who's gone nuts?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Was the Mari at the time?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh Giuliani?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, Okay, switching gears here. There is a guy by
the name of Derek Mobley who was looking for a job,
and he is an IT professional in North Carolina, and
he applied for more than one hundred jobs during a
stretch of unemployment from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen, a
(11:27):
couple of years, and even after that, and back came
rejection or silence. He was ghosted, and sometimes the rejection
emails arrived in the middle of the night or within
an hour of submitting his application.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And he is not alone.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Millions of US job hunters every year or US job
hunters submit millions of apps every year online and they
get gusted, ghosted, or automatic rejection and never know if
they got a fair shake from.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Whom from the algorithms.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's why MOBILEI noticed that a lot of these companies
have applied for used an online recruiting platform from a.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Company called work Day.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And this platform called Applicant Tracking Systems, Well, it helps
employers track and screen job candidates. He sued him, suited
him for discrimination, saying the algorithm screamed him out based
on his age. He's fifty, race, he's black, disabilities, he
suffers from anxiety and depression, and he's a black graduate
(12:38):
of Moorhouse College. And he said he applied only for
jobs that he was qualified for. And he says there's
a standard bell curve in statistics. You can't have a
failure rate of one hundred percent. By the way, MOBILEI
has since gotten hired the old fashioned way, and so
(12:59):
his lawsuit is now coming up, and it's a pretty
significant challenge because virtually every highering decision made these days
is based on an algorithm. And a federal judge said
that the age discrimination claim could proceed, and the judge
said it was it was not on purpose, so that
(13:20):
part of it punitive damage is not going to fly
yet he still has a case. Work Day says claims
have no merit because the software matches keywords on resumes
with chob qualifications and then it scores the applicants and
(13:41):
therein lies.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I guess the secret.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean when I hired for people for my surrogacy agency,
I looked at keywords, and I looked at qualifications, and
I looked at do they have experience in the field
I wanted? And it was sort of an algorithm, but
it was done individually. We looked at it. This one
(14:06):
is done via the internet, and this one is done
with a very sophisticated algorithm. And how fair is that?
If you don't match those keywords, you're screwed? Now work
They says. Those keywords are part of a resume and
your background that lists whether you are qualified or not.
(14:28):
The problem is is, what if you don't put in
the right keywords and you're qualified? Is that discrimination? What
if you admit your age or even worse, they know
how old you are because there's data mining and they
know everything about you. For example, how do they know
that Mobili was depressed and suffer for anxiety. It's not
(14:49):
like they got his medical records. It's like throughout his
chats and what he posted and I'm not feeling too good,
I'm depressed today. Put it all together and he said
there was a pattern there, and so the lawsuit goes on.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now I have a question, and.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That is do you use artificial artificial intelligence use AI
to then figure out when you're looking for a job
and it puts the words that you need to at
least get an interview. And do they have an AI
program that realizes that there is a program of AI
(15:33):
that is putting in those words.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
See, it's a little strange because we use work day.
I don't know if it's the exact same thing, but
we use work day. And I used to do the hiring, ye,
and I use the filters to put them in a
certain order, but I go through all of them. I
did at the time.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But that's the well, the point is that these are
companies that don't.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
These are companies that don't. And I remember we talked
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
When you used when you would hire, first of all,
you'd filllter out everybody who wasn't happy with minimum wage
and would stay with minimum wage for the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
There's a filter.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You filtered out, we'd have no one working for us.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's pretty much what happens, isn't it. That's pretty much
ye okay, I get it out of your system. Yeah,
we're done with that all right.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Around Mount Saint Helen's, the number of rescues just keeps
on climbing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
One man twenty one years.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Old kayaked over a waterfall. Brilliant, huh, A spinal injury.
A fifty four year old woman glaciated. I don't even
know there was a word down Mount Saint Helen's. That's
sliding down a snow covered slope. I guess just on
her ass. She struck a rock and suffered a head injury.
(16:55):
There are more and more of these coming up, and
there are some shriff now because usually they're county rescue
teams pondering sending you know, send them a bill, Send
them a bill. The sheriff Summershire said, and this is
I think, Sacamania County, I need to find a creative
(17:18):
way to deter the current behavior we're witnessing while attempting
to recoup the financial burden placed on our country, on
our county. In May, in Sacramon County, the number of
search and rescue missions just exploded compared to.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
The same month last year. By the way, He's not alone.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Southern Utah Garfield County announced it was requiring permits for
some of the most remote and challenging slot canyons. Effectively,
it's an insurance policy. You want to go off the trail,
you want to go in that area, you're paying an
extra permit to pay for potential search and rescues. Nationwide,
(17:56):
last year, over thirty three hundred of these rescues. Uh
and man, you know that's just it's dumb for these
people to go. Now, we're only talking egregious stuff off
the trail, going into areas, going there in the middle
of winter where there's snow.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Why would people do that? Explain that to me.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
When I go to Brents, Delhi or I go to
Anaheim White House, I don't get lost.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
People don't have to look for me.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
As matter of fact, they know exactly where I am.
I mean hiking off are these trails?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Amy? Do you hike? Nop good, Neil?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I know I want to fall off the trail.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Exactly, Nail, Neil. Do you hike what you hike? What
can I know? I hike?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kno do you hike, no chance. See, we're going to
live a while, all right. For those of you that
hike and go off the trail and do these you know,
weird sports. You know you're gonna die. It'll kill you
every time. You know I'm here to help you. I
want you to live a long life. Stop this crap
(19:10):
hiking and off the trails. People should get nailed, by
the way for that, because these these searches are a fortune. Yeah, Amy,
I was just gonna say, in some ski areas when
you go out of bounds, they do charge.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You good good, especially when you hit a tree and
they have to come and rescue you.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, the Sunny Bono story, you know, Offully one got
in an argument with a tree. He lost, the tree
won the argument. We're done. Coming up, Gary and Shannon.
Tomorrow morning we start all over again on a Taco Tuesday.
Amy and Will five to nine, five to six wake
(19:52):
up call, Neil and I join a board at six
right till about now. And of course you got Kono
and and who make the show happen, which without them
show would probably be better. All right, Gary and Shannon
up next. This is KFI AM six point forty.
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Handle here on a Monday morning, June twenty three, and
now the world is waiting for the Iranian response to
the American attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran by
B two bombers and other aircraft, American aircraft that bomb
(00:26):
those facilities. Let's move to a very local story, and
that is Hollywood. Hollywood being Hollywood, and this of course
is the movie capital of the world, except it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Really isn't anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
If La County were a country, the economy we be
among the world's twentieth largest, but it is heading south.
Payroll employment is one percent lower than at the end
of twenty nineteen before the pandemic.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
For the rest of the country it's up.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Five percent, and a big reason is the fall in
film and video production. La County employment in motion picture
and sound recording is down ten percent in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The number of shoot days, that's the number of days
that are.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's how they measure the amount of production. One measurement
is the number of days that they blocked off the
street going into my house and I had to go
all the way around. And they call it shoot days,
because that's what you want to do to these production
companies when your street is blocked off.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Shoot days are days.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
In which they film feature films, TV commercials. That fell
for the first third straight year in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
California's share of global projects.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now, keep in mind, Southern California was the world leader
still is, but it's falling in film production around the world.
It was twenty three percent in twenty twenty one. It's
now eighteen percent. So the President wants to fix it.
(02:14):
We all want to fix it because Hollywood is Hollywood
or the film center of the world. That's how we
got to be famous all over the world. The Hollywood sign,
I mean, this is sort of magic. Although if you
actually go to Hollywood, you're not going to see many
movie studios. There never were movie studios in Hollywood. They're
all in the San Fernando Valley or they're in West
(02:38):
LA where.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The Sony studios are.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So the President proposed his favorite solution, tariffs on foreign
made films. Well, the Hollywood folks saying no, tariffs aren't
going to work.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So here's what we want. More tax incentives.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And less red tape because the permitting process is crazy.
And how about more housing because people have to live
here and it has become prohibitive. And that's the story
we're going to do over and over again. So the
governor has proposed more than doubling the California's film and
(03:22):
TV text credit to seven hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And one of the reasons.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That production is moving so quickly out of Southern California
is real simple.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's the cost, that's it. It's way too expensive.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There are tons of reasons why it should stay here.
Why film started here, actually started in New Jersey with Edison,
but and it quickly moved here at the turn of
the last century and Southern California, particularly quote Hollywood, became
the center of the entertainment business in terms of films
(04:01):
and later on television. Film television production has dropped and
is dropping dramatically, and it's really affecting our economy big
time because the entertainment business is huge for Southern California.
So what is going on, Well, a big reason for
(04:23):
the fall in film and video production. Just to give
you an idea, La County employment in motion picture and
sound recordings down ten percent since twenty nineteen, the number
of shoot days, as I said, fell for the.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Third straight year in twenty twenty four. It is not good.
And well, let me give you an example.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Disney's Marvel Studios, you know where they film Atlanta or
the UK. Netflix just expanded a production facility in Albuquerque,
New Mexico, broke round on a huge complex in New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And here's one in in.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
The UK, there is more square footage of sound stage
than in southern California.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Two key reasons.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
One, other locations are offering lucrative, less restrictive incentives. They're
offering not only tax breaks, they're offering to underwritight to
pay for film production up to the point of thirty
percent of the cost of making a film. And here
in southern California there's no place for anybody to live anymore,
(05:33):
housing shortage, shortages aggravated by the wildfires. While the cost
of living here is prohibitive. Now La is a great
place to film. There's a reason why the film industry
really started here. Ocean mountains, desert within a few hours drive.
You can shoot almost any movie of any kind here.
(05:56):
And in terms of going outside on location, almost any
day you can shoot. You don't have to worry about
the weather because of our weather A god of them.
Ben Everard, a former chairman of Film LA, says it's
worth paying more for the talent pool here because of
the superior quality of the shows on the screen. However,
(06:20):
and this makes sense, we're living off of Hollywood's endowment.
The difference is the cost of filming is so great
now here that the films and TV shows don't have
to be as good. They just have to be good
enough because the cost is so high. And then you
(06:41):
have the recent raids and the protests. Now there's not
too many illegal migrants that work in the film industry, granted,
but it's about uncertainty and business hates uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
And think about this.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The big name actors and the big name directors still
are here in southern California. It's the mid level people
that can't afford to be here. Same thing with Silicon Valley.
The high end people are there, the mid level people
are out. They can't afford to be there. Wall Street
top executives are there in New York, but the mid
(07:26):
tier jobs or go to other places. Cheaper housing, lower taxes,
and just the cost of doing business here not just
the taxes, not just the housing. But for example, the
cost of producing using a dog on the set is
(07:48):
almost one thousand dollars. That's one day for a dog.
Now you go to one of the major studios in
Hong Kong, it's a couple of dollars per day. And
it doesn't even pay to bring them back to their trainer.
They either let them go where they eat them. It's
just cheaper get them to the crafts people and you
(08:11):
have them for lunch. And this is a dog that
you hired to be on the set. It's a shame.
And so what the governor wants to do is increase
the tax the underwriting and the tax break. And here
is the problem, and this is where the cost the
(08:33):
taxpayer dollars. Does the film the filming of that movie
or that TV show and giving tax breaks and underwriting
it with tax money, does it do more for us
than not? Does it actually make money for the town
or does it cost money? And the detractors are saying,
(08:55):
if it costs us money, why do it. And for
people that argue we still want to keep the reputation
of Hollywood, go to Hollywood. Yeah, it's a nice place
to visit, but it's all tourism. It's all tourists. How
many people actually live in Hollywood walk along Hollywood Boulevard
(09:17):
or walk along Sunset?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Who live there?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, bill Wyn Tracy, my wife and I first
got married, We lived in Hollywood for two and a
half years, three years something like that, and we would
go in that area every now and again for things
that we needed. And we'd be walking through there and
you have to you're bombarded with people trying to sell
things a tourists and you'd have to go live.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Here, live here, live here, live here, and just.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
And you were one in thousands. For example, go to
Las Vegas. How many people that live in Las Vegas
ever get near the strip? It is one hundred sent tourism.
You know, our friend Saville, my partner, you know, lives
in Vegas, and uh, when I go to visit him
(10:08):
and we'll go to dinner along the strip one of
the high end restaurants that he pays for, thank you,
it's two three times a years when he actually goes
along the strip. So Hollywood is really a myth, but
it's a nice myth and it and at one point,
and not too many years ago, Hollywood was really a sewer,
(10:30):
a toilet where they had adult film, these little adult
film palaces and dance clubs and strip clubs. And it
was actually Disney bringing the Capital Theater back that reversed it.
You have to give Disney, Michael Eisner a lot of
credit for bringing Hollywood back.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So it was similar. Pardon Times Square? I think was
it Disney that did Times Square too?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I think that was.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
What's his face? The Who's gone nuts?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Was the Mari at the time?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh Giuliani?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, Okay, switching gears here. There is a guy by
the name of Derek Mobley who was looking for a job,
and he is an IT professional in North Carolina, and
he applied for more than one hundred jobs during a
stretch of unemployment from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen, a
(11:27):
couple of years, and even after that, and back came
rejection or silence. He was ghosted, and sometimes the rejection
emails arrived in the middle of the night or within
an hour of submitting his application.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
And he is not alone.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Millions of US job hunters every year or US job
hunters submit millions of apps every year online and they
get gusted, ghosted, or automatic rejection and never know if
they got a fair shake from.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Whom from the algorithms.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's why MOBILEI noticed that a lot of these companies
have applied for used an online recruiting platform from a.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Company called work Day.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And this platform called Applicant Tracking Systems, Well, it helps
employers track and screen job candidates. He sued him, suited
him for discrimination, saying the algorithm screamed him out based
on his age. He's fifty, race, he's black, disabilities, he
suffers from anxiety and depression, and he's a black graduate
(12:38):
of Moorhouse College. And he said he applied only for
jobs that he was qualified for. And he says there's
a standard bell curve in statistics. You can't have a
failure rate of one hundred percent. By the way, MOBILEI
has since gotten hired the old fashioned way, and so
(12:59):
his lawsuit is now coming up, and it's a pretty
significant challenge because virtually every highering decision made these days
is based on an algorithm. And a federal judge said
that the age discrimination claim could proceed, and the judge
said it was it was not on purpose, so that
(13:20):
part of it punitive damage is not going to fly
yet he still has a case. Work Day says claims
have no merit because the software matches keywords on resumes
with chob qualifications and then it scores the applicants and
(13:41):
therein lies.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I guess the secret.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean when I hired for people for my surrogacy agency,
I looked at keywords, and I looked at qualifications, and
I looked at do they have experience in the field
I wanted? And it was sort of an algorithm, but
it was done individually. We looked at it. This one
(14:06):
is done via the internet, and this one is done
with a very sophisticated algorithm. And how fair is that?
If you don't match those keywords, you're screwed? Now work
They says. Those keywords are part of a resume and
your background that lists whether you are qualified or not.
(14:28):
The problem is is, what if you don't put in
the right keywords and you're qualified? Is that discrimination? What
if you admit your age or even worse, they know
how old you are because there's data mining and they
know everything about you. For example, how do they know
that Mobili was depressed and suffer for anxiety. It's not
(14:49):
like they got his medical records. It's like throughout his
chats and what he posted and I'm not feeling too good,
I'm depressed today. Put it all together and he said
there was a pattern there, and so the lawsuit goes on.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Now I have a question, and.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That is do you use artificial artificial intelligence use AI
to then figure out when you're looking for a job
and it puts the words that you need to at
least get an interview. And do they have an AI
program that realizes that there is a program of AI
(15:33):
that is putting in those words.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
See, it's a little strange because we use work day.
I don't know if it's the exact same thing, but
we use work day. And I used to do the hiring, ye,
and I use the filters to put them in a
certain order, but I go through all of them. I
did at the time.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But that's the well, the point is that these are
companies that don't.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
These are companies that don't. And I remember we talked
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
When you used when you would hire, first of all,
you'd filllter out everybody who wasn't happy with minimum wage
and would stay with minimum wage for the next ten years.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
There's a filter.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You filtered out, we'd have no one working for us.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
That's pretty much what happens, isn't it. That's pretty much
ye okay, I get it out of your system. Yeah,
we're done with that all right.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Around Mount Saint Helen's, the number of rescues just keeps
on climbing.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
One man twenty one years.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Old kayaked over a waterfall. Brilliant, huh, A spinal injury.
A fifty four year old woman glaciated. I don't even
know there was a word down Mount Saint Helen's. That's
sliding down a snow covered slope. I guess just on
her ass. She struck a rock and suffered a head injury.
(16:55):
There are more and more of these coming up, and
there are some shriff now because usually they're county rescue
teams pondering sending you know, send them a bill, Send
them a bill. The sheriff Summershire said, and this is
I think, Sacamania County, I need to find a creative
(17:18):
way to deter the current behavior we're witnessing while attempting
to recoup the financial burden placed on our country, on
our county. In May, in Sacramon County, the number of
search and rescue missions just exploded compared to.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
The same month last year. By the way, He's not alone.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Southern Utah Garfield County announced it was requiring permits for
some of the most remote and challenging slot canyons. Effectively,
it's an insurance policy. You want to go off the trail,
you want to go in that area, you're paying an
extra permit to pay for potential search and rescues. Nationwide,
(17:56):
last year, over thirty three hundred of these rescues. Uh
and man, you know that's just it's dumb for these
people to go. Now, we're only talking egregious stuff off
the trail, going into areas, going there in the middle
of winter where there's snow.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Why would people do that? Explain that to me.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
When I go to Brents, Delhi or I go to
Anaheim White House, I don't get lost.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
People don't have to look for me.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
As matter of fact, they know exactly where I am.
I mean hiking off are these trails?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Amy? Do you hike? Nop good, Neil?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I know I want to fall off the trail.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Exactly, Nail, Neil. Do you hike what you hike? What
can I know? I hike?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Kno do you hike, no chance. See, we're going to
live a while, all right. For those of you that
hike and go off the trail and do these you know,
weird sports. You know you're gonna die. It'll kill you
every time. You know I'm here to help you. I
want you to live a long life. Stop this crap
(19:10):
hiking and off the trails. People should get nailed, by
the way for that, because these these searches are a fortune. Yeah, Amy,
I was just gonna say, in some ski areas when
you go out of bounds, they do charge.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You good good, especially when you hit a tree and
they have to come and rescue you.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, the Sunny Bono story, you know, Offully one got
in an argument with a tree. He lost, the tree
won the argument. We're done. Coming up, Gary and Shannon.
Tomorrow morning we start all over again on a Taco Tuesday.
Amy and Will five to nine, five to six wake
(19:52):
up call, Neil and I join a board at six
right till about now. And of course you got Kono
and and who make the show happen, which without them
show would probably be better. All right, Gary and Shannon
up next. This is KFI AM six point forty.
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