April 17, 2025 • 25 mins
(April 17, 2025)
Host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard joins the show to discuss panic pre-buying trending, companies offering price locks, and Chinese companies selling directly to American consumers. KFI reporter Michael Monks joins the show live from the Menendez brothers hearing. Host of ‘Later with Mo Kelly’ on KFI closes the show talking about Hollywood cranking out original movies but audiences are not showing up.
Host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard joins the show to discuss panic pre-buying trending, companies offering price locks, and Chinese companies selling directly to American consumers. KFI reporter Michael Monks joins the show live from the Menendez brothers hearing. Host of ‘Later with Mo Kelly’ on KFI closes the show talking about Hollywood cranking out original movies but audiences are not showing up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty the bill Handle show
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AM six forty bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Here.
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It is a Thursday morning, April seventeenth, tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's Ask Handle Anything.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And we've been doing this now for I don't know
a couple months, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And here's what we do. The reason we're doing.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It is because I'm always asked. Last night was at
an event, what's tim like? On? Okay, what's Cobalt like?
And so we all get these questions. So what we
are doing handle ask handle Anything where you record a
question and I just answer it and it's kind of fun.
It's pretty embarrassing for me. So here is what happens.
(00:46):
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corner microphone, click onto that you have fifteen seconds to
ask a question. I don't care what it is, but
just don't give me opinion on life. I just couldn't
care less.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You just asked the questions that I answer, and Neil
and a figure out which questions I'm going to answer
and it's a lot of fun because I don't know
what's coming up.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's done spontaneously, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With that being said Joel Larsguard, Joel, I have to
tell you that, how long have you been around with us.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
On this show?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't know, a year and a half, year and
a half.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And do you know how often I'm asked about what's
Joel like?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Never?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That is correct, never. No one has ever asked me
what you are like? So I'm also bill, oh no, no,
you're giving yourself a lot of You're being generous in
describing yourself as not interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Let's start talking about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Joel of course heard Sunday twelve to two pm here
on KFI, the host of how to Money, and his
social address is at how to Money. Joel Okay, panic
pre buying, I mean coming it has to happen that
we're looking at these insane tariffs.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So how much of that is going on right now? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I mean it definitely over the past couple of weeks
seems to have been skyrocketing. And so when you look at,
for instance, something like iPhones, there was apparently, according to data,
spending at Apple was up like twenty percent in the
first week of April from what it normally is, and
that's not like a seasonal buying trend. That is people
(02:31):
saying the Trump administration is telegraphing higher prices from consumer goods,
especially consumer electronics. That's going to be part of this.
Although there was a reprieve we can talk about that
for specific computers and phones and stuff like that, but
at the time, it wasn't known that that was going
to happen, and so people were saying, well, if that
phone is going to get extremely more expensive in just
(02:54):
mere weeks, I'm gonna go ahead and buy stuff. The
same thing is happening with cars, and people are saying, okay, well,
looks like these tariffs are going to hit the price
of a new car really hard. These predictions are saying
four or five grand more maybe for the car the
make and model that I want in just a few
short weeks. I'm gonna go ahead and get that car now.
So I think what it's going to do At some
(03:15):
point people are gonna say why I pre bought the stuff,
So it's going to lead to reduced sales down the line.
But people are definitely stocking up on some items.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So let's say, let me ask you this, because if
you look at the raw data, you're looking at Trump
ordering tariffs, people in anticipation of tariffs actually hitting are
buying like crazy, and it has to cannibalize what would
happen in the future. So it looks great now. I
(03:43):
mean you look at Apple twenty percent increase. What happens
two months from now, three months from now? And are
we looking at all of this comes crashing down at
least in those sectors that are tariffed.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Well, I think it's going to be kind of a
double waymy because it is going to be the Hey,
I frontloaded the spending the thing I was going to
buy down the road I bought. Now, yeah, it looks
good in the moment, but then, yeah, the crash feels
even worse for these businesses down the road when people
have already bought the item. But then those items become
more expensive thanks to tariffs. And how high is the
(04:16):
tariff rate going to be? Will it be implemented? I
mean those are still lingering questions, right, we don't really
Tariff policy has been so back and forth. What actually
gets instituted. That's kind of anybody's guest, right, now. But
you know, when if tariffs are imposed at meaningful rates,
especially from a country like China, where so many of
(04:38):
our goods come from, then increased prices means consumers dial
back even more on their spending and they hold on
to some of their cash. And so yeah, I could
see the pre buying along with kind of what happens
to pricing, you know, post tariffs, that both of those
things just harming companies even more later on.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I haven't shared this with you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean I have with everybody this thing and whoever
listened at that time. But my partner and I we
have a company in which we import cookwar from China
made out of stainless steel, and we had to just
stop shipment. Saple just literally called up our suppliers in
China who were about to ship the product, was about
(05:19):
to the containers were about to go on the ship,
and he said, stop it, stop it. We can't we
can't even take it. We don't know what we're going
to pay. Yeah, we have no ideas. So sales have
just stopped until we figure it out.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And we're not alone. I mean, you know, if you're
making iPhones, you're.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Great because you just got an exemption.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Apple just got an exemption.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
And that's the thing. I think.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Bigger companies have more of an ability to assume some
of those higher prices. They can absorb a little bit
of the tariff impact. They don't have to pass along,
at least for the time being, the full price that
they're that they're paying. They have more of an ability
to negotiate with their suppliers overseas. We' seeing big companies
like Walmart and Costco trying to work with their producers
(06:07):
in those factories to say, hey, listen, can we get
the price down. But smaller companies, small and mid sized
businesses have a tougher time with tariffs. It creates even
more uncertainty for them. Yeah, it's a pain of the
butt for companies like Apple, but it's way more of
a pain of the butt for companies like yours, Bill,
And so.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, you're not alone in that.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
And I think small businesses in particular, they're going to
be crying uncle. It's going to be tougher for them
to survive in this environment.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So, Joel, just a quick word which I have not
brought up, and I have only been thinking about it recently,
and that is if you're looking at the long game,
which Donald Trump is, and if it pans out that
it works out the way he has planned its workout,
that means American manufacturer factories come back here, et cetera.
That's a good thing. He's saying it's going to hurt
(06:52):
short term. Maybe maybe it's going to work that way.
But if you're talking about reducing the expense of the
United States reducing deficit, what a neat way of doing
it is getting everybody to pay a whole lot more
money for goods, and it's not quote an income tax raise,
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and it's a win win for the administration. It's a
win win for everybody other than those of us who.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Buy You know what, go ahead. I don't think it's
gonna work out like that.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I mean, your traditional people from all sides of the
spectrum politically economists would tell you, and have said for years,
except for some people who are changing their stripes right now,
have basically said, tariffs are attacks on consumers, they're and
inefficient tax They're not a smart way of running an economy.
And I've said this too that I guess for geopolitical circumstances,
(07:50):
there might be some reasons to occasionally institute tariffs to
try to get a desired outcome. But some sort of
tariff for gie that thinks the tariffs will make us
rich just doesn't make any sense and it doesn't have
any basis in economic reality. So I think, yeah, and
will it bring Will it have the long term intended
consequence of bringing manufacturing back in a significant way to
(08:13):
the United States.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I just don't think that it will.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
And I think it disregards the reality of comparative advantage
and the fact that some economies some places, like We're
going to bring banana growth back here to the United States. Well,
it's hard to grow bananas here. Same thing with coffee, right.
I mean some of the tariffs against some countries who
produce things better than we can, or produce items that
we just can't produce at all.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It doesn't mean that they're better than us.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It just means that we both of our economies have
comparative advantages that we lean into.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Chinese companies selling directly to American consumers. I did a
story on that this morning, and it is a watch
out big time if you are being solicited or you
go on a website and say, hey, we're the direct
manufacturers buy from us. So your name brain, your name
brand product, I'll sell.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
It to you.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Let's talk about that because a lot of that is
fraud going on now, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, And that's been a really interesting trend to watch.
We've already seen kind of companies in China direct selling
to US consumers, and that's like Sian and Timu stuff
like that, where you're able to get goods for dirt
cheap shift directly to your door. It takes a little
bit longer for the shipping. I've pretty much avoided those
websites and the claims of quality are hit or missed,
(09:31):
and so it's definitely buyer beware. But now this new
trend that you're talking about is Chinese influencers on TikTok saying, hey,
guess what we make Lululemon le likings or we make
this luxury handbag and do you realize they're selling it
to you for one hundred bucks those leggings or for
that purse for four thousand dollars. Well, we make it.
(09:53):
We can sell it to you for like five bucks
or twenty bucks. Like it's ridiculous the markup. So we're
going to sell directly to you, and similar to I
think those It is true in some ways that Chinese manufacturers,
like they can create some high quality items. Some people
just think, oh, if it's kind of made in China, sticker,
they can't make something nice. If it's made in Italy,
then this is fancy. That's not necessarily true. But you
(10:16):
have to be really careful when you're watching those videos
because there's also the reality of dupes and knockoffs and
so are you actually getting Lululemon leggings for five dollars?
Probably not, And a lot of these companies are trying
to kind of combat some of this misinformation that's coming
out on social media about where these products are made
and whether they're the exact same product that these that
(10:36):
they're claiming that it is.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, I mean, of course they're not. How can they be.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
How does a major retailer or you know, for example,
let's say you're going and buying a burbery or a
coach bag, right, and then you have a manufacturer says
we make for burbery, that we're the win is a
manufacturer and.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We can sell to you direct.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Boy, that relationship between those two are gone, right, Well,
no one would ever stand for.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It well, and typically there's there's an NBA, right, a
non disclosure agreement that's signed between this company and this manufacturer.
So yeah, you're right, I mean there are if it
were true and they were revealing this, there's all sorts
of like legal implications and there's all sorts of business
implications for the for the manufacturing facility that has this
(11:26):
relationship with the luxury goods provider.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it's the crazy stuff that's on these websites and
you buy. I mean, it's completely insane when I see it.
The good news is I don't do that, you know,
I don't buy anything on a website, you know, I
just I go to Costco and if they don't have it,
you don't need it.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Well, and consumers just have to be so much more
we thought, I think the advent of the Internet, it
seemed like, well, this is just going to make shopping
for stuff easier for consumers. Think about how easy it's
going to be to compare prices and like, I'll never
pay too much because it's going to be I'm gonna
just hop around to like shopping for a dishwasher, home
(12:03):
depot lows Costco, who's got the best price I can
find out in mere minutes, mere seconds, not having actually
go into the physical locations. But actually the opposite has happened.
There's like it feels like it's even more opaque when
we're buying stuff. Is the quality of the same is
the Is this the exact same item that I'm finding
in another store?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Why is this so much cheaper? Is it?
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Is it made by a different manufacturer? Is it inferior
in quality? And we just have to buyers have to
be where you have to like not just look at
the star review anymore on a website you're buying from,
You have to actually read the reviews. And you just
have to be careful where you're buying from too.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's all crazy. By the way, mattresses, I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You know, shopping compare mattress stores and mattress prices.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
They're all different skews, every single one of them. There
is no comparison. All right, Just sure, all right, Joe,
we'll talk again next week.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Have a good day. Take care of YouTube, Bill, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
The Menandez brothers, the hearing is starting this morning to see, well,
what's gonna happen to them? Is there gonna be a
re sentencing. They are asking for clemency from the governor.
There's a bunch of different options that can occur. You've
got the d a hawkman who doesn't want any of this.
(13:18):
He wants to judge to not do anything, and the
judge has said.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No to that. We're gonna go forward with a hearing.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Michael Monks is there, Michael, So what's going on? People
are filing in right now? And how many people are there?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
You know, this does not have the feeling of those
earlier hearings related to this case. It's not a zoo,
it's not a madhouse. I mean, there's a lot of
guys like me, TV folks, radio folks, print folks, digital folks.
We're all out here. But as far as any ruckus
from supporters or opponents, you're really not seeing that. In fact,
they just did that lottery you've heard us talk about
yesterday and today on KFI.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
You needed to come in.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
And basically do a raffle to see if you were
going to get a seat in the courtroom. They only
had sixteen seats available. They just did it to very
little fanfare. Really, I mean I overheard one lady who
said she flew in from Chicago specifically to attend.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
She did get a ticket.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Everybody else seemed rather nonchalant about it. So that's the
status outside here. At about nine o'clock, they're going to
let the media guys go in. In about nine thirty
this hearing is supposed to start.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And how many people showed up and are being turned away?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Any idea at this point, That's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
It doesn't seem that big.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean, this was a raffle that had sixteen tickets
available for the public, and I think you didn't have
twice that, maybe twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Sixty almost, So basically almost no one showed up, so
that it's lost a lot of interest clearly. I don't
know if you knew this, I've ever shared this with you,
but I was one of the people that actually got
to see the mansion trial out for a couple of days,
and that was kind of fun because he's nuts.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I think saved your worldview in some compatities.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's completely changed my worldview actually meeting Charles Man or
at least seeing him in court and his followers were
outside on the sidewalk, his crazy young women followers and
had big They had swastikas on their foreheads that they
did with their the razors, the razorblade. That was kind
of fun. So yeah, that'll leave the mark. Yeah, nice
(15:19):
scar that way. So today is the first thing that
they're going to hear is Hawkman's argument that the delay
should happen.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
I mean, we already know that he's against this in
the first place, but now his argument is, let's wait
a little while before we do this, because there's another
legal mechanism taking place. There's this state clemency option that
can be offered by the governor. He's got a parole
commission up in Northern California and taking a look at this,
reviewing their suitability for release. There being the Benindez brothers,
(15:53):
and so Hawkman says, why don't we wait until we
take a look at these because it may help inform
our arguments for or against the potential resentencing.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
And we keep talking about resentencing.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Remember the mind and his brothers were sentenced to life
without parole, and so this resentencing possibility could change that
sentence to fifty years to life. And because they committed
the murders of their parents in nineteen eighty nine under
the age of twenty six, they could be released if
they do get that resentencing.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, and Hawkman as opposed to this.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Most people out there, if you actually ask, would argue
that they should be released for a couple of reasons.
First of all, it was at trial number two. First
trial hung jury because of the evidence produced by both
of them, I think, particularly Eric about the sexual abuse
of their father. That was a hung jury, a lot
of political pressure to convict them second time out, most
(16:49):
of that evidence was excluded and most people think, yeah,
there was something there.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Do they deserve to be in prison for the rest
of their lives?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Hawkman has come up with and he's right on that
one too, because we remember and that is okay, they
got all of this money and they started spending it
like crazy after they killed their parents, buying rolexes, having
a rip roaring good time, buying cars. These are not
kids who were in fear of their lives, so there's.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
A lot of moving pieces here.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah, it's quickly right, and he hasn't. He's also argued
that even since then, in the years, while they may
have or may not have been model prisoners inside incarceration,
they haven't taken full responsibility for their actions back then,
even all these years later.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, they haven't denied killing their parents.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
The argument is that they keep on pushing the sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And I think what Hakeman wants to do is give
it up.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Just say you're sorry, Just say there was no reason
you killed your parents. I want to hear remorse, and
then we'll talk about some kind of rehabilitation argument.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And they're just they're not willing to do that.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So it should be a lot of fun. So how
many of you are out there reporter wise?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Oh, there's many more of us than there were people
showing up for the lottery tickets.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
I can tell you that. I'd say there's probably.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
About forty different camera crews and radio guys and a
few others. So we're basically the scene out here in
Van Nis. We are in Van Nights outside the Van
Night's West Courthouse, across the yard from the Van Nights
City Hall building, which is a lovely building. But other
than that, it's just media folks, few law enforcement folks,
and we're all just waiting to see what happens today.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are you interviewing each other.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
A little bit? You know, what do you connections taking place.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, what does Channel four have to think about this? Huh?
How about Channel five?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
I can do some voices for people if they need
some witnesses. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, it's good. All right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Take care Michael. We're hearing from you a good part
of the day, especially.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
As this herring goes on.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You will be on the other programs. All right, have
a good one you too. All right, coming up, I
want to end it all with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He's going to join us and O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You have a quick announcement that you want to make
before we go, or we'll do that at the We'll
go ahead and do it now.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Congratulate. We had like five winners that are going out
to Vegas. This is because of our friends there at
Resort World there in Las Vegas. Crossroads restaurant out here
in Los Angeles is a part of it's a culinary collaboration.
Chef Collections. You got chef tal Ronan, chef Roco de Spirito,
(19:29):
Chef Michael Voltaggio doing a plant based Italian inspired dinner.
Very great lineup. All these guys have been on the
Fork Report, and it looks like it's just going to
be a spectacular event going on tonight.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I wish I could go.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I know you and I should. Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Mean absolutely, I love those things with chef's Neil and
I are going to do a cooking thing at my
house and I'm going to actually broadcast. We're trying to
put that one together. There's gonna be a lot of time.
I should be all right. Moe Kelly who is heard
money through Friday seven to ten PM, host of Later
with Mo Kelly, and he's at mister Mokelly his social address.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Moga Morning Morning bill. Ah.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now, an interesting, an interesting situation is going on, and
that is Hollywood is cranking out some original movies. I
mean it is happening, but the problem is is no
one is showing up and have they been able to
figure out a lot of it is because of streaming.
Of course, I don't go to movies anymore, and I
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used to go twice a week, right, I mean I
was the moviegoer. I mean I was the perfect demographic.
I haven't been to a movie and I don't know
how long. You know what When I saw Oppenheimer and
I was forced to watch it, and I hated it,
but I hated having been forced to watch it in Barbie.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh that was it now, it must have been a
year and a half, two years ago. What's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'm glad you mentioned Oppenheimer and Barbie. That's part of
the issue. It's a confluence of things. Movies aren't the
economic bargain that the U to be ten to fifteen
years ago. People are not largely going to see let's
say a rom com by themselves. So that means two
tickets food, which costs about fifty dollars altogether in time
out of your day driving to and from the theater.
That's not real attractive to young couples or young folks
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when they're more affordable options available.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That's the first part.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And also, are you going to bet on a movie
that you have no emotional history with and you know
that same movie is going to hit streaming and be
a part of your subscription inside of a month.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And studios, to your point about Oppenheimer and also Barbie,
they're being more choosy as to which movies they're putting
a lot of advertising behind. They put a boat low
behind Oppenheimer and Barbie, for example. So most of the
new concept movies like the amateur with romy mallet. They
aren't well known by moviegoers, so there's not like this
first weekend push that we're normally accustomed to seeing.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, I think all the Another reason, and I'm bringing
my own sensibilities into this, is when streaming first start
that it was on your TV. Right, obviously streaming is
on the TV, and you know, the quality wasn't wonderful
and the sound wasn't that terrific. Today, I sit in
my bedroom if I go to sleep at night watch well,
(22:13):
it's usually when I go to sleep and watch TV.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's an eighty five in screen TV.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It fills the wall up and the sound is superb
and I can put it on pause and go pee,
which I can't do in the movies. Why I can
pee in the movies, but I have to go to
the restroom for that. So it's a whole different world.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I have the movie.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The producers try to figure out a way to undo that.
To get people into theaters.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I know that different theaters have tried to improve the
in theater experience with the different type of chairs.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
You know, they'll serve you right at your seat.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
They try to make it as close to feeling like
home as possible. But there's something else that I don't
think has been really disgusted enough. There needs to be
a real discussion about the quality and appeal of a
lot of these non seas equalized movies.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I don't think they're as good period.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You look at a movie like Nova Kane or Mickey seventeen,
and I don't think that those movies are designed to
bring in big audiences and they are of inferior quality.
And if you combine that with the fact that most
people don't even know about these movies for the lack
of advertising, like for example, the Oscar best pictured nominees
(23:23):
for twenty twenty five, virtually none of them had any
box office footprint except for Wicked and Doune. Take those
two off the list, and the combined box office of
all the other movies was less than a fewer than
three hundred million dollars. You know, movies need to be
an event to get people in theaters, That's what I mean,
And not just on the weekends, but during the week
and the theaters are struggling because people are not only
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going to the movies on the weekends, but they're definitely
not going during the week and movie theaters need all
seven days to stay open all seven days.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Is it harder to make a good movie than it
was twenty years ago?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I think Hollywood is more lazy than twenty years ago.
I think Hollywood is not dedicated to the art of
writing a good movie.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's more formulaic.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You have movies no disrespect, like a Jason Stathan movie.
You kind of know what you're gonna get with the
Jason stath of movie. Yes, if you like action, you're
gonna get action in the Jason Stathan movie. But you're
not gonna get much more. Hollywood has been rather lazy.
I happen to like sequels. I don't like reboots, but
Hollywood will give us plenty of sequels, and there's an
emotional attachment which I approve of and I appreciate. But
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the new movies, which I don't have any history with,
I'll just wait for streaming.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, a lot of us too. All right, Moe, we'll
catch it tonight, seven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Talk soon.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You have a good day. We'll catch it next week probably.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
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It's Ask Handle Anything.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And we've been doing this now for I don't know
a couple months, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And here's what we do. The reason we're doing.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It is because I'm always asked. Last night was at
an event, what's tim like? On? Okay, what's Cobalt like?
And so we all get these questions. So what we
are doing handle ask handle Anything where you record a
question and I just answer it and it's kind of fun.
It's pretty embarrassing for me. So here is what happens.
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During the course of the show. You go to the
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just don't give me opinion on life. I just couldn't
care less.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
And the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
You just asked the questions that I answer, and Neil
and a figure out which questions I'm going to answer
and it's a lot of fun because I don't know
what's coming up.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
It's done spontaneously, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
With that being said Joel Larsguard, Joel, I have to
tell you that, how long have you been around with us.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
On this show?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I don't know, a year and a half, year and
a half.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And do you know how often I'm asked about what's
Joel like?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Never?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That is correct, never. No one has ever asked me
what you are like? So I'm also bill, oh no, no,
you're giving yourself a lot of You're being generous in
describing yourself as not interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Let's start talking about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Joel of course heard Sunday twelve to two pm here
on KFI, the host of how to Money, and his
social address is at how to Money. Joel Okay, panic
pre buying, I mean coming it has to happen that
we're looking at these insane tariffs.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So how much of that is going on right now? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I mean it definitely over the past couple of weeks
seems to have been skyrocketing. And so when you look at,
for instance, something like iPhones, there was apparently, according to data,
spending at Apple was up like twenty percent in the
first week of April from what it normally is, and
that's not like a seasonal buying trend. That is people
(02:31):
saying the Trump administration is telegraphing higher prices from consumer goods,
especially consumer electronics. That's going to be part of this.
Although there was a reprieve we can talk about that
for specific computers and phones and stuff like that, but
at the time, it wasn't known that that was going
to happen, and so people were saying, well, if that
phone is going to get extremely more expensive in just
(02:54):
mere weeks, I'm gonna go ahead and buy stuff. The
same thing is happening with cars, and people are saying, okay, well,
looks like these tariffs are going to hit the price
of a new car really hard. These predictions are saying
four or five grand more maybe for the car the
make and model that I want in just a few
short weeks. I'm gonna go ahead and get that car now.
So I think what it's going to do At some
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point people are gonna say why I pre bought the stuff,
So it's going to lead to reduced sales down the line.
But people are definitely stocking up on some items.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So let's say, let me ask you this, because if
you look at the raw data, you're looking at Trump
ordering tariffs, people in anticipation of tariffs actually hitting are
buying like crazy, and it has to cannibalize what would
happen in the future. So it looks great now. I
(03:43):
mean you look at Apple twenty percent increase. What happens
two months from now, three months from now? And are
we looking at all of this comes crashing down at
least in those sectors that are tariffed.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Well, I think it's going to be kind of a
double waymy because it is going to be the Hey,
I frontloaded the spending the thing I was going to
buy down the road I bought. Now, yeah, it looks
good in the moment, but then, yeah, the crash feels
even worse for these businesses down the road when people
have already bought the item. But then those items become
more expensive thanks to tariffs. And how high is the
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tariff rate going to be? Will it be implemented? I
mean those are still lingering questions, right, we don't really
Tariff policy has been so back and forth. What actually
gets instituted. That's kind of anybody's guest, right, now. But
you know, when if tariffs are imposed at meaningful rates,
especially from a country like China, where so many of
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our goods come from, then increased prices means consumers dial
back even more on their spending and they hold on
to some of their cash. And so yeah, I could
see the pre buying along with kind of what happens
to pricing, you know, post tariffs, that both of those
things just harming companies even more later on.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I haven't shared this with you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I mean I have with everybody this thing and whoever
listened at that time. But my partner and I we
have a company in which we import cookwar from China
made out of stainless steel, and we had to just
stop shipment. Saple just literally called up our suppliers in
China who were about to ship the product, was about
(05:19):
to the containers were about to go on the ship,
and he said, stop it, stop it. We can't we
can't even take it. We don't know what we're going
to pay. Yeah, we have no ideas. So sales have
just stopped until we figure it out.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And we're not alone. I mean, you know, if you're
making iPhones, you're.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Great because you just got an exemption.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Apple just got an exemption.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
And that's the thing. I think.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Bigger companies have more of an ability to assume some
of those higher prices. They can absorb a little bit
of the tariff impact. They don't have to pass along,
at least for the time being, the full price that
they're that they're paying. They have more of an ability
to negotiate with their suppliers overseas. We' seeing big companies
like Walmart and Costco trying to work with their producers
(06:07):
in those factories to say, hey, listen, can we get
the price down. But smaller companies, small and mid sized
businesses have a tougher time with tariffs. It creates even
more uncertainty for them. Yeah, it's a pain of the
butt for companies like Apple, but it's way more of
a pain of the butt for companies like yours, Bill,
And so.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, you're not alone in that.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
And I think small businesses in particular, they're going to
be crying uncle. It's going to be tougher for them
to survive in this environment.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So, Joel, just a quick word which I have not
brought up, and I have only been thinking about it recently,
and that is if you're looking at the long game,
which Donald Trump is, and if it pans out that
it works out the way he has planned its workout,
that means American manufacturer factories come back here, et cetera.
That's a good thing. He's saying it's going to hurt
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short term. Maybe maybe it's going to work that way.
But if you're talking about reducing the expense of the
United States reducing deficit, what a neat way of doing
it is getting everybody to pay a whole lot more
money for goods, and it's not quote an income tax raise,
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and it's a win win for the administration. It's a
win win for everybody other than those of us who.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Buy You know what, go ahead. I don't think it's
gonna work out like that.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I mean, your traditional people from all sides of the
spectrum politically economists would tell you, and have said for years,
except for some people who are changing their stripes right now,
have basically said, tariffs are attacks on consumers, they're and
inefficient tax They're not a smart way of running an economy.
And I've said this too that I guess for geopolitical circumstances,
(07:50):
there might be some reasons to occasionally institute tariffs to
try to get a desired outcome. But some sort of
tariff for gie that thinks the tariffs will make us
rich just doesn't make any sense and it doesn't have
any basis in economic reality. So I think, yeah, and
will it bring Will it have the long term intended
consequence of bringing manufacturing back in a significant way to
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the United States.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I just don't think that it will.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
And I think it disregards the reality of comparative advantage
and the fact that some economies some places, like We're
going to bring banana growth back here to the United States. Well,
it's hard to grow bananas here. Same thing with coffee, right.
I mean some of the tariffs against some countries who
produce things better than we can, or produce items that
we just can't produce at all.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It doesn't mean that they're better than us.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
It just means that we both of our economies have
comparative advantages that we lean into.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Chinese companies selling directly to American consumers. I did a
story on that this morning, and it is a watch
out big time if you are being solicited or you
go on a website and say, hey, we're the direct
manufacturers buy from us. So your name brain, your name
brand product, I'll sell.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
It to you.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Let's talk about that because a lot of that is
fraud going on now, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, And that's been a really interesting trend to watch.
We've already seen kind of companies in China direct selling
to US consumers, and that's like Sian and Timu stuff
like that, where you're able to get goods for dirt
cheap shift directly to your door. It takes a little
bit longer for the shipping. I've pretty much avoided those
websites and the claims of quality are hit or missed,
(09:31):
and so it's definitely buyer beware. But now this new
trend that you're talking about is Chinese influencers on TikTok saying, hey,
guess what we make Lululemon le likings or we make
this luxury handbag and do you realize they're selling it
to you for one hundred bucks those leggings or for
that purse for four thousand dollars. Well, we make it.
(09:53):
We can sell it to you for like five bucks
or twenty bucks. Like it's ridiculous the markup. So we're
going to sell directly to you, and similar to I
think those It is true in some ways that Chinese manufacturers,
like they can create some high quality items. Some people
just think, oh, if it's kind of made in China, sticker,
they can't make something nice. If it's made in Italy,
then this is fancy. That's not necessarily true. But you
(10:16):
have to be really careful when you're watching those videos
because there's also the reality of dupes and knockoffs and
so are you actually getting Lululemon leggings for five dollars?
Probably not, And a lot of these companies are trying
to kind of combat some of this misinformation that's coming
out on social media about where these products are made
and whether they're the exact same product that these that
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they're claiming that it is.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, I mean, of course they're not. How can they be.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
How does a major retailer or you know, for example,
let's say you're going and buying a burbery or a
coach bag, right, and then you have a manufacturer says
we make for burbery, that we're the win is a
manufacturer and.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We can sell to you direct.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Boy, that relationship between those two are gone, right, Well,
no one would ever stand for.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
It well, and typically there's there's an NBA, right, a
non disclosure agreement that's signed between this company and this manufacturer.
So yeah, you're right, I mean there are if it
were true and they were revealing this, there's all sorts
of like legal implications and there's all sorts of business
implications for the for the manufacturing facility that has this
(11:26):
relationship with the luxury goods provider.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it's the crazy stuff that's on these websites and
you buy. I mean, it's completely insane when I see it.
The good news is I don't do that, you know,
I don't buy anything on a website, you know, I
just I go to Costco and if they don't have it,
you don't need it.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Well, and consumers just have to be so much more
we thought, I think the advent of the Internet, it
seemed like, well, this is just going to make shopping
for stuff easier for consumers. Think about how easy it's
going to be to compare prices and like, I'll never
pay too much because it's going to be I'm gonna
just hop around to like shopping for a dishwasher, home
(12:03):
depot lows Costco, who's got the best price I can
find out in mere minutes, mere seconds, not having actually
go into the physical locations. But actually the opposite has happened.
There's like it feels like it's even more opaque when
we're buying stuff. Is the quality of the same is
the Is this the exact same item that I'm finding
in another store?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Why is this so much cheaper? Is it?
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Is it made by a different manufacturer? Is it inferior
in quality? And we just have to buyers have to
be where you have to like not just look at
the star review anymore on a website you're buying from,
You have to actually read the reviews. And you just
have to be careful where you're buying from too.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's all crazy. By the way, mattresses, I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You know, shopping compare mattress stores and mattress prices.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
They're all different skews, every single one of them. There
is no comparison. All right, Just sure, all right, Joe,
we'll talk again next week.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Have a good day. Take care of YouTube, Bill, all right.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
The Menandez brothers, the hearing is starting this morning to see, well,
what's gonna happen to them? Is there gonna be a
re sentencing. They are asking for clemency from the governor.
There's a bunch of different options that can occur. You've
got the d a hawkman who doesn't want any of this.
(13:18):
He wants to judge to not do anything, and the
judge has said.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No to that. We're gonna go forward with a hearing.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Michael Monks is there, Michael, So what's going on? People
are filing in right now? And how many people are there?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
You know, this does not have the feeling of those
earlier hearings related to this case. It's not a zoo,
it's not a madhouse. I mean, there's a lot of
guys like me, TV folks, radio folks, print folks, digital folks.
We're all out here. But as far as any ruckus
from supporters or opponents, you're really not seeing that. In fact,
they just did that lottery you've heard us talk about
yesterday and today on KFI.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
You needed to come in.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
And basically do a raffle to see if you were
going to get a seat in the courtroom. They only
had sixteen seats available. They just did it to very
little fanfare. Really, I mean I overheard one lady who
said she flew in from Chicago specifically to attend.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
She did get a ticket.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Everybody else seemed rather nonchalant about it. So that's the
status outside here. At about nine o'clock, they're going to
let the media guys go in. In about nine thirty
this hearing is supposed to start.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And how many people showed up and are being turned away?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Any idea at this point, That's what I mean.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
It doesn't seem that big.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean, this was a raffle that had sixteen tickets
available for the public, and I think you didn't have
twice that, maybe twenty.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Sixty almost, So basically almost no one showed up, so
that it's lost a lot of interest clearly. I don't
know if you knew this, I've ever shared this with you,
but I was one of the people that actually got
to see the mansion trial out for a couple of days,
and that was kind of fun because he's nuts.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I think saved your worldview in some compatities.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's completely changed my worldview actually meeting Charles Man or
at least seeing him in court and his followers were
outside on the sidewalk, his crazy young women followers and
had big They had swastikas on their foreheads that they
did with their the razors, the razorblade. That was kind
of fun. So yeah, that'll leave the mark. Yeah, nice
(15:19):
scar that way. So today is the first thing that
they're going to hear is Hawkman's argument that the delay
should happen.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
I mean, we already know that he's against this in
the first place, but now his argument is, let's wait
a little while before we do this, because there's another
legal mechanism taking place. There's this state clemency option that
can be offered by the governor. He's got a parole
commission up in Northern California and taking a look at this,
reviewing their suitability for release. There being the Benindez brothers,
(15:53):
and so Hawkman says, why don't we wait until we
take a look at these because it may help inform
our arguments for or against the potential resentencing.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
And we keep talking about resentencing.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Remember the mind and his brothers were sentenced to life
without parole, and so this resentencing possibility could change that
sentence to fifty years to life. And because they committed
the murders of their parents in nineteen eighty nine under
the age of twenty six, they could be released if
they do get that resentencing.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, and Hawkman as opposed to this.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Most people out there, if you actually ask, would argue
that they should be released for a couple of reasons.
First of all, it was at trial number two. First
trial hung jury because of the evidence produced by both
of them, I think, particularly Eric about the sexual abuse
of their father. That was a hung jury, a lot
of political pressure to convict them second time out, most
(16:49):
of that evidence was excluded and most people think, yeah,
there was something there.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Do they deserve to be in prison for the rest
of their lives?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Hawkman has come up with and he's right on that
one too, because we remember and that is okay, they
got all of this money and they started spending it
like crazy after they killed their parents, buying rolexes, having
a rip roaring good time, buying cars. These are not
kids who were in fear of their lives, so there's.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
A lot of moving pieces here.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah, it's quickly right, and he hasn't. He's also argued
that even since then, in the years, while they may
have or may not have been model prisoners inside incarceration,
they haven't taken full responsibility for their actions back then,
even all these years later.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, they haven't denied killing their parents.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
The argument is that they keep on pushing the sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
And I think what Hakeman wants to do is give
it up.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Just say you're sorry, Just say there was no reason
you killed your parents. I want to hear remorse, and
then we'll talk about some kind of rehabilitation argument.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And they're just they're not willing to do that.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So it should be a lot of fun. So how
many of you are out there reporter wise?
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Oh, there's many more of us than there were people
showing up for the lottery tickets.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
I can tell you that. I'd say there's probably.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
About forty different camera crews and radio guys and a
few others. So we're basically the scene out here in
Van Nis. We are in Van Nights outside the Van
Night's West Courthouse, across the yard from the Van Nights
City Hall building, which is a lovely building. But other
than that, it's just media folks, few law enforcement folks,
and we're all just waiting to see what happens today.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are you interviewing each other.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
A little bit? You know, what do you connections taking place.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, what does Channel four have to think about this? Huh?
How about Channel five?
Speaker 7 (18:41):
I can do some voices for people if they need
some witnesses. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, it's good. All right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Take care Michael. We're hearing from you a good part
of the day, especially.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
As this herring goes on.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You will be on the other programs. All right, have
a good one you too. All right, coming up, I
want to end it all with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He's going to join us and O'Neil.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You have a quick announcement that you want to make
before we go, or we'll do that at the We'll
go ahead and do it now.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
Congratulate. We had like five winners that are going out
to Vegas. This is because of our friends there at
Resort World there in Las Vegas. Crossroads restaurant out here
in Los Angeles is a part of it's a culinary collaboration.
Chef Collections. You got chef tal Ronan, chef Roco de Spirito,
(19:29):
Chef Michael Voltaggio doing a plant based Italian inspired dinner.
Very great lineup. All these guys have been on the
Fork Report, and it looks like it's just going to
be a spectacular event going on tonight.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, I wish I could go.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I know you and I should. Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Mean absolutely, I love those things with chef's Neil and
I are going to do a cooking thing at my
house and I'm going to actually broadcast. We're trying to
put that one together. There's gonna be a lot of time.
I should be all right. Moe Kelly who is heard
money through Friday seven to ten PM, host of Later
with Mo Kelly, and he's at mister Mokelly his social address.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Moga Morning Morning bill. Ah.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now, an interesting, an interesting situation is going on, and
that is Hollywood is cranking out some original movies. I
mean it is happening, but the problem is is no
one is showing up and have they been able to
figure out a lot of it is because of streaming.
Of course, I don't go to movies anymore, and I
(20:31):
used to go twice a week, right, I mean I
was the moviegoer. I mean I was the perfect demographic.
I haven't been to a movie and I don't know
how long. You know what When I saw Oppenheimer and
I was forced to watch it, and I hated it,
but I hated having been forced to watch it in Barbie.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh that was it now, it must have been a
year and a half, two years ago. What's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I'm glad you mentioned Oppenheimer and Barbie. That's part of
the issue. It's a confluence of things. Movies aren't the
economic bargain that the U to be ten to fifteen
years ago. People are not largely going to see let's
say a rom com by themselves. So that means two
tickets food, which costs about fifty dollars altogether in time
out of your day driving to and from the theater.
That's not real attractive to young couples or young folks
(21:14):
when they're more affordable options available.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That's the first part.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
And also, are you going to bet on a movie
that you have no emotional history with and you know
that same movie is going to hit streaming and be
a part of your subscription inside of a month.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
And studios, to your point about Oppenheimer and also Barbie,
they're being more choosy as to which movies they're putting
a lot of advertising behind. They put a boat low
behind Oppenheimer and Barbie, for example. So most of the
new concept movies like the amateur with romy mallet. They
aren't well known by moviegoers, so there's not like this
first weekend push that we're normally accustomed to seeing.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, I think all the Another reason, and I'm bringing
my own sensibilities into this, is when streaming first start
that it was on your TV. Right, obviously streaming is
on the TV, and you know, the quality wasn't wonderful
and the sound wasn't that terrific. Today, I sit in
my bedroom if I go to sleep at night watch well,
(22:13):
it's usually when I go to sleep and watch TV.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's an eighty five in screen TV.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It fills the wall up and the sound is superb
and I can put it on pause and go pee,
which I can't do in the movies. Why I can
pee in the movies, but I have to go to
the restroom for that. So it's a whole different world.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I have the movie.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The producers try to figure out a way to undo that.
To get people into theaters.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I know that different theaters have tried to improve the
in theater experience with the different type of chairs.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
You know, they'll serve you right at your seat.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
They try to make it as close to feeling like
home as possible. But there's something else that I don't
think has been really disgusted enough. There needs to be
a real discussion about the quality and appeal of a
lot of these non seas equalized movies.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
I don't think they're as good period.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
You look at a movie like Nova Kane or Mickey seventeen,
and I don't think that those movies are designed to
bring in big audiences and they are of inferior quality.
And if you combine that with the fact that most
people don't even know about these movies for the lack
of advertising, like for example, the Oscar best pictured nominees
(23:23):
for twenty twenty five, virtually none of them had any
box office footprint except for Wicked and Doune. Take those
two off the list, and the combined box office of
all the other movies was less than a fewer than
three hundred million dollars. You know, movies need to be
an event to get people in theaters, That's what I mean,
And not just on the weekends, but during the week
and the theaters are struggling because people are not only
(23:45):
going to the movies on the weekends, but they're definitely
not going during the week and movie theaters need all
seven days to stay open all seven days.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Is it harder to make a good movie than it
was twenty years ago?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I think Hollywood is more lazy than twenty years ago.
I think Hollywood is not dedicated to the art of
writing a good movie.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's more formulaic.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
You have movies no disrespect, like a Jason Stathan movie.
You kind of know what you're gonna get with the
Jason stath of movie. Yes, if you like action, you're
gonna get action in the Jason Stathan movie. But you're
not gonna get much more. Hollywood has been rather lazy.
I happen to like sequels. I don't like reboots, but
Hollywood will give us plenty of sequels, and there's an
emotional attachment which I approve of and I appreciate. But
(24:30):
the new movies, which I don't have any history with,
I'll just wait for streaming.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, a lot of us too. All right, Moe, we'll
catch it tonight, seven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Talk soon.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You have a good day. We'll catch it next week probably.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right, now, before we bail out of here and
Gary and Shannon show up, quick word again. I am
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(25:03):
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Speaker 2 (25:10):
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Speaker 1 (25:13):
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Speaker 2 (25:18):
So as you can imagine, we get through these very quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
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Speaker 2 (25:37):
Wonderful, isn't it? Not so much?
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