April 24, 2025 • 28 mins
(April 24, 2025)
Host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard joins the show to discuss attending a timeshare presentation, early retirement, and a California bill to create lower rent increase caps. Trump officials consider shrinking national monuments for mining. Host of ‘Later with Mo Kelly’ joins the program to talk about ‘Sinners’ becoming the highest grossing horror movies of all time in just 5 days.
Host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard joins the show to discuss attending a timeshare presentation, early retirement, and a California bill to create lower rent increase caps. Trump officials consider shrinking national monuments for mining. Host of ‘Later with Mo Kelly’ joins the program to talk about ‘Sinners’ becoming the highest grossing horror movies of all time in just 5 days.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty. The Bill Handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio f on a Thursday morning,
April twenty four, Some of the big stories we're looking
at the White House is reportedly reportedly exploring giving women
a baby bonus of five thousand dollars to encourage Americans
(00:24):
to have more kids. Now, I will tell you, if
I knew now what I knew, then you could offer
me one hundred thousand dollars bonus to have children, and
I would say no thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Or more. I might dad love my kids, they love
me and my credit card a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Joe Larsgard a host of How to Money every Sunday
from twelve to two pm. He's at how to Money Joel.
That's a social address. Good morning, Joel.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Would you want to spend your money on others?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hello? Joel? Joel, Joel. I can barely hear you. Let's
start up again.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah? Now I can't. Okay, you were saying it's.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Gonna say what else would you want to spend your
money on other than your kids?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh? Really? Other than my kids? Oh? I don't know,
root canals.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'd rather spend my money on cleaning up sewage spills.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Maybe you have a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Of goals and priorities with that money.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I certainly do.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Kids are taking away from it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes, Okay, here is something near and dear to my
heart when you brought this up, and that's attending a
timeshare presentation. Oh man, I have never seen pressure like
that in my life, and I'm gonna throw something at you.
You take your life in your hands when you go
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into a timeshare presentation.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, this is one of those things that, sadly I
have yet to do, but I really need to because
I just have to. I have to know what all
the fuss is about being in one of those sales
pitches that's like trying to close the deal and get
you to part from like twenty plus thousand dollars. In
One fell Swoop and The Wall Street Journal, one of
the writers over there wrote about attending a timeshare presentation,
(02:15):
and she was super excited about it because she's like, Hey,
I got a couple free days in Las Vegas at
a place I was hoping to stay at, and all
I gotta do is attend one of these two hour
time share pitches.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
She survived, but a lot of people don't.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
And time shares, man, those sales pitches can be just
so disarming, and the tactics they use, they get a
lot of people, and yeah, timeshares are just a massive
drain on your finances.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And they, by the way, their offers are legit. Will
send you to Las Vegas for three days. You know,
those are all legit, they're not fake. But the point
is if you take advantage of those and you go
to a timeshare and you have no intention of buying
a timeshare, be prepared for some of the biggest hardest
pressure sales pressure techniques you've ever seen in your life.
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It is extraordinary, and they're very good at it, and
they'll come up with every they'll retort with every objection
you may have, they'll make deals.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And time shares these.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Days are basically used to get used to own property.
One for example, if you had a two week time share,
you would own two fifty seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Fifty two's a timeshare. Now you just get points.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You don't own anything, and those points can be devalued. Yeah,
and when you're talking about kind of the sales tactics
that are used oftentimes there, it's just like, well, we
got to you said no, like thirty two times, but
we've got this limited time offer, and they'll yeah, no,
it's crazy and different salespeople, and so they're trying to
kind of wear you out, and they're trying to give
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you offers that sound better than they actually are, and
they're not.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And they're not in reality, or they may be better
for that minute, but the whole concept is very, very difficult.
There are some time shares that are actually worth it,
Disney time shares, for example, if you get them during
the holiday season, that's worth some money. The rest of them, well,
there's some that are good, but the rest of them
are not. So I'm going to steal one minute, Joel
(04:14):
and tell you the story when I went to a
time share. I'm glad you brought those up. I went
to a timeshare just to see I didn't even go
to Las Vegas because I've been there a million times,
just to see the kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have never seen that kind of pressure.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And at one point I said, it sounds good, Please
let me see the contract.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And they would they go, oh no, no, we don't
have a contract.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well how do I sign up without actually looking at
a contract? I'm a lawyer, what do you expect me
to do? Not?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Look at it?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And then the pressure started, well, you're going to get
a special deal, and if you do it today, we're
going to add this and then we're going to add that.
I and but you have to do make it up
right now. You have to make the decision.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I said, hey, I'm not going to make a decision
for And.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Then you talk about the amount of money undred forty
fifty eighty thousand dollars over the course years.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And finally I said, okay, well, thank you very much,
I'll think about it. And as I'm leaving, someone actually
stood in front of me. A manager stood in front
of me. He said, hey, I want to talk to you.
I said, no, I am leaving. Goes no, No, I
want to talk to you. And I said, are you
Are you stopping me from leaving? Do I call the
police and say you will not let me out of
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this room?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is that what you expect me to do? It took
that for them to leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Dude, that is intense.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, oh it's And of course every time someone comes
in and goes, hey, dr Smith just bought what everybody applauds.
What do you care if someone else bought something. I mean,
the whole thing is just ridiculous. So here's the law,
here's the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Be really, really careful.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And by the way, Joel, I expect you to go
and see one of these now, and I wonder how
much money you're going to spend on this.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, I will.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And I've got to say too, man, there's people who
are falling into my camp bill were they're super frugal
and they're like free vacation. All I got to do
is attend this ninety minute to two hour presentation and
it seems like it's a deal. But you got to
be really careful because, yeah, if you sign on the
dotted line, which many people feel pressured to do, that
upends the free vacation.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is the most expensive vacation you ever took.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, but you can get it if you know what
you're talking about, and illegitimately. By the way, even if
you're looking at one of those, never never ever sign
there ever one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well, think about this.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
There's a lot of people who have time shares who
don't love them. They're trying to sell them through oh yeah,
sale market for time shares, that's where you go get
one because you're going to get it for pennies on
the dollar.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Absolutely, get to get it for free. Just take one
off someone's hands.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean all you've got to do then is pay
the annual maintenance fees, which will go up every year,
so you got to know about that too. But yeah,
when you're talking about paying twenty grand to the person
in the timeshare presentation versus going online and looking at
people selling on sites like Vacacia or something like that,
you might pay a couple hundred bucks or even less
because someone's that vet up with their timeshare.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, so you know, let's not say that that sometime
shares aren't good. I want to reiterate because they're not
all rips. But I'll tell you what is universal is
pressure when you go to one of these time shares.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That is universal.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, enough of that, we've warned people we're going to
leave this segment, and Joel, you have to commit that
you're going to go to one of these.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I just want to let you. I want to know
what you think.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And let's talk about either early retirement or how about
this the California bill to lower rent increase caps, because
in California you can get a ten percent increase every
single year, and that is really hitting a lot of
people very hard time for Joel Larsgard, who clearly does promos.
(07:44):
Just before his segment, I plan it, well, yes you did.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
All right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
If we're gonna have time, I want to jump into
early retirement. But the California bill to create lower rent increases.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
If you live in the city of Los Angeles, you're fine,
it's rent control.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's the rest of the state, the non rent controlled
areas that well, the rent increases are killing people, especially
with the cost of rental units today.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Here's the thing though, So this bill that was introduced
less than a month ago, AB one one five seven
is or excuse me, it's yeah. AB one one five
seven is basically saying, hey, right now, in much of
the state, there are rent caps of five percent plus
inflation the rate of inflation or ten percent, whichever is lower,
and in recent years it has been ten percent. But
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to basically say, actually, no, five percent is going to
be the cap on rent increases and I totally get
like the heart and where this comes from. They I
the desire essentially to say, yeah, rents are absurd, they've
been climbing significantly. Most people can't afford to live in
expensive parts of the state. But I also think this
is like the wrong way to address it. It's it's
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doing it's going at it wrong way, and so something
like this, and studies have shown this for decades, but
including a recent one in twenty nineteen from Stanford which
basically says, hey, yeah, when you try to cap rents,
what happens is you have fewer units on the market
to help renters who need a place to stay.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah. Yeah, because people invest to make money.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They don't invest to break me. And we're talking about
property owners.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You don't invest to lose money or to break even
with your money.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And a lot of rentals are mom and poppers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I think that's the majority of the rental units in California.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And you know, this is their life savings.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And can you imagine you're investing your life savings and
you're never going to make a dime and you still
have to repair and clean and maintain.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Although I will say what happens when these more severe
rent control laws come into place is not only do
we have fewer units, but we also have landlords taking
care of those units a lot less. Like, for instance,
I've got a few rental properties. I just put a
bunch of money into one. And it's not like I
was able to jack up the rent significantly because of it,
but it was like, it's time for me to make
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these updates to this property. And what happens when there's
rent control? Will landlords see less a future profit potential
and so they let the place get dingy. They don't
take care of it in nearly the same way. So
those rent controlled units are turned into not necessarily unlivable places,
but over time they can they can get really dingy,
really bad. Yeah, and so this rent control law, it
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does worry me because really it's the other side of
the equation that we need to be considering. Instead of
saying you can't charge more than this, we need to
say we need more supply.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's what leads to lower rents.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and part I mean there has to be a
sweet spot there because you have people that the rent increases,
and if it's going up eight ten percent a year,
it doesn't take you very long until you are literally
you're done. You can't afford it anymore, you're priced out
of the rental unit. And at the same time, you've
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got landlords who buy and they have to make they
have to have an increase in the value because they're
putting money into it. It's an investment. Where's the sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I think the sweet spot is truly creating more places
for people to live, and I think that almost everything
shows that, and there's even been studies bill that find
that even if you're putting in like fancy housing units,
like really nice places, we're not talking just even more
single family homes, nicer single family homes, just the idea,
just the reality of adding more livable units that drives
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down the costs for everyone. So it doesn't even have
to be like the low cost units that are specifically
targeting people who don't make much money, although that is
not a bad idea too. But creating more supply, even
if it's nicer, higher end supply, leads to lower costs.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It puts price pressure on what people are able to charge.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And so if you're as a renter looking around and
you're like, well, instead of like three options in my
price range, now I've got like eight options. Well, then
a rent control cap isn't needed in the same way,
and then it's actually counterintuitive, and I think it is anyway.
But really what needs to happen is incentives deregulation to
allow people to allow more buildings so that people can
have more options when it comes to where they live
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and how much they pay.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But that's very long term.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The problem is, let's say, right now, they change the
permitting process, they changed the ability to build. Money opened up.
I mean to start going out and buying a piece
of property you're years away from actually opening it up
for rental.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's just not a great idea.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's a great idea, it just almost becomes impossible to
fulfill that fantasy, if you will.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, and that's why bills like this are politically palatable,
because voters say, well, yeah, like, let's let's stick it
to the greedy landlords and let's make sure that I'm
not seeing massive increases to my rent. And yet the
flip side, it's a slower problem that materializes over time
that people don't even really recognize. Right So, because it's
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kind of happening behind the scenes, we're having fewer units
just listed for rent altogether, and we're seeing those those
units become less and less habitable, less and less desirable.
Well that's something that happens really slowly over time versus Hey,
you're the politician who helped me limit what I'm paying
in rent. Mad props to you. I'm going to vote
you back in. And so there's like a Obviously politicians
(13:32):
want to do what's most expedient, and that's to me
what this bill does at the expense of the long
term benefit for Californians.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
All right here, I mean, we are out of time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We're let's talk about early retirement next next Thursday, because
that is really important. And I just saw I went
on Amazon and just saw a great product, and that
is a street a number of an address number that
adheres to dumps much better than others do. It's really
(14:03):
a great thing because that's where you're going to retire to.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
We're coming We're going to come back next week with
Joel do early retirement because there's a world to that.
Joel Sunday from twelve to two pm right here on
KFI how to Money, and his social address is at
how to Money.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Joel.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Joel, have a good day. We'll talk to you in
next week and we'll hear you on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Sounds good, Thanks Bill.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Take care. What else is going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, we now have a philosophical debate and it has
to do with fossil fuels and.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
National monuments and how do the two combine.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, as we know Donald Trump, as part of his campaign,
as part of why he was elected, his philosophy is
we have to push push fossil fuels, coal mining, back
to that oil drilling because the argument is we want
to be energy independent. And that's legitimate because to rely
(15:05):
on other countries for energy, soul reliance or to a
great extent, we are at their mercy.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Do you remember nineteen seventy three, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
If you've read it, Opek quadruple their prices and the
gas war started with.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Them starting it and them winning it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And this was Opek where we had gas lines like crazy.
So the administration, I think it's a legitimate argument. And
here's why people are upset the Trump officials. The administration
is analyzing whether to remove federal protections from national monuments
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in order to spur energy development on public lands. No
final decision has been made, but what the Trump administration
is doing is taking these national areas, these monument areas
and saying we are going to open them up to
oil drilling, oil drilling, even coal mining.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And the list includes.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And I love this a the baij Nuajo nuavjo Ita
kouk Venni ancestral footprints of the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
They have to keep that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Particular park open longer because it takes that much more
time just to mention the name.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You also have ironwood forests.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Chukawala, No idea where those are, the Oregon Mountains, Desert Peaks,
Organ Mountains, I guess bears ears, Grand Staircase, Escalane. These
are in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Utah. And it
all has to do with boosting American energy and critical
minerals production, which the President says is vital to economic
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growth and powering artificial intelligence. Don't know if that's true
or not, but the reason this can go forward is
that the President has declared an national energy emergency. There
are a lot of emergencies that the President has declared.
The president does have the right to declare national emergency,
(17:10):
for example, the Alien What Sedition Act, the Foreign Agent Act.
I'm now mixing up the name of it, under which
people can be deported without due process. That's been invoked
or interred without due process.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's been invoked.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Twice in the history of the United States, both times
during war. And he has declared the migrants coming into
this country a national security issue, basically a war issue.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And the same thing with energy emergency.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's a national energy emergency which establishes an energy Council,
which can fast track resource development projects and actually dismantle
environmental protections. And again, does the president have a right
to do that? That Supreme Court goes up and up,
So it's a legal right over the right of a
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president to grant the sweeping lands protections under the nineteen
oh six Antiquities Act, which is really bizarre.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
What the Trump administration is doing is.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Grabbing onto these laws and which enable him to make
declarations and to do things that no president has ever
tried before except in times of war. So he shranked
the boundaries of Utah's Bears eers the Grand Staircase Escalante.
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Now that was in his first term. Joe Biden reversed that,
and now the president is reversing that. This is a
real interesting position because if you're an environmentalist, You're going
out of your mind. You are part of the oil,
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the gas industry, the coal industry. You're saying, we've got
too much land. We can take bits and pieces. Now
are they going to drill right there? In for example,
the National Monument itself in the middle of Yosemite.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So when you go down the Yosemite Valley, there you
see oil derricks. I don't think so. But right behind
the mountain half.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Dome there are the oil wells that are covered up
with trees. Now, obviously I'm exaggerating, but there are millions
and millions of acres that have been deemed national properties
and national monuments that cannot be touched. And what the
president wants to do is open those up. And again,
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which side of the coin are you on? And what
ends up happening is an and this is a secondary issue,
and that is the more energy is produced via fossil fuels,
and we're talking about oil, coal particularly, I think the
less incentive is to go into alternative energy at this point.
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For example, solar solar was hideously expensive.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Now it is competitive. Which way do you go on solar?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And then earlier I did a segment on the utility
companies arguing against the incentives to put.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Solar systems home solar systems and create your own energy.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So it's this is an issue, and we're seeing it
more than any other presidency. And that is President Trump
stretching the limits of any president's powers. Unlike we have
seen probably since FDR, where FDR was reacting to the
(21:03):
Great Depression, this president is not reacting to anything. This
is a fulfillment of his basic belief. And we'll see
how far his presidential powers go. I'll tell you he's
got Congress behind him. There is not a power that
he's asking for that the Republican Congress does not want
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to give him.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It does not matter.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And do we have the courts, Well, Supreme Court is
open to giving the president far more power than it
ever has before because of the super conservative court.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And you have the Senate.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, at this point, the Senate again is Republican. I
mean all three branches are controlled by the Republicans. Does
that mean that this is going to occur, don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And once.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
A coal mine is opened up, drilling has started, it's
hard to undo that. And remember this is executive order,
this is not Congress passing this bill.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We're passing this policy.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
All right, coming up, Mo Kelly and let's do a
little bit of movie news, and this one is kind
of fun. Mo Kelly has heard every night Monday through Friday,
seven to ten o'clock host of Later with Moe Kelly
and Mo is our go to guy when it comes
to entertainment and movies. And Mo, there's a horror movie
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out there that you told me about.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A quick word.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I will never ever see a horror movie because I
still sleep on with the night lights on at night,
and I do not do well in horror movies. It's
called Sinners, And in five days it's become one of
the highest grossing horror movies of all time.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Why because there's zillions of horror movies out there. What's
with this one that it works?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, that's what makes this movie so special.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Not only is it one of the highest grossing horror
movies of all time, especially what it's done, it's having
an international positive response. It's gross more than sixteen million
dollars across the world. You have the United Kingdom more
than three million. I'll give you an example. In France,
it's gross to million dollars. It was the number two
movie behind Minecraft, but it was only in three hundred theaters.
(23:23):
In other words, the top ten movies in France, all
of them had at least twice as many theaters that
those movies were showing in. So this has, i would say,
a very grassroots appeal around the world, and it's touching
people on varying levels. If you happen to be religious,
you happen to be Christian, there's a message in there
for you. If you happen to like horror movies, there's
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something in it for you. If you happen to like
the supernatural, there's something in it for you. If you
happen to like vampire stories, there's something in it for you.
And all these things are coalescing at the same time
and making this a very special And also I forgot,
it's an original movie. It's not a sequel, it's not
a remake, it's not a reboot.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, so let me get this correct.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Casper gets crucified, and he tells the world about his
philosophy of death and what other part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, let me let me go to someplace else on
this one. What was it you talked about? Sixteen million
dollars gross.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Right, sixteen sixty million domestically? Oh, six zero six zero domestically.
But okay, okay, so that's pretty good. Well, do you
happen to know what the budget was?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yes? Is ninety million.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, So I'm going to compare that to a movie
that is I think it's made all kinds of history.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Remember the blair Witch Project. Absolutely, okay, blair Witch.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Project, which in today's dollars would be one hundred and
five thousand dollars to make, adjusted for inflation, one hundred
grand to make it grossed over four.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Hundred million dollars. Is anybody or any movie ever going
to match that?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Not as far as return on an investment?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, So ninety million, and so far it's done sixty million,
So it's done half of its budget. And this is
considered a huge win because it just started and the
snowball is now going down the mountain.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
The snowball is picking up steam.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
It's one of the few movies, regardless of genre, which
has a more high nineties Rotten Tomatoes audience meter and
also critic score. So it's being universally received positively, and
the word is getting out about the movie. People heard
about it, but now people are seeing it multiple times.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Sin it's picking up momentum.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Have you seen it yet?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yes? I have?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh and what did you think?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I related to it on a number of levels. I
related to it as a Christian.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
I related to it as someone who's knowledgeable about American
history and African American history in the South.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It's a period piece.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
It's set in the nineteen thirties, and it's making the message.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I don't want to give.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Too much away, but it's telling the story that if
you allow certain things in your life, you are inviting
evil into your life. And that has been true from
then up until now.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh. So it's also a message film.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yes, it is most definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Wow. Okay, do I go see it? When's it gonna
hit cable?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You're gonna hit streaming because I don't go to movie, Yeah,
any idea.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I don't know specifically, but I would expect it's gonna
have at least five to six weeks run in the
theaters because it's picking up Steve and it's going to
be adding theaters, which means we'll have a longer run
in theaters.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Got it all right? MO? Catch you tonight seven o'clock
or it's later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
All right, well we're done.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We're done, And before we bail, a quick word about
phone calls. I am taking phone calls and giving marginal
legal advice right now, and I'll probably do it for
half an hour forty minutes with no brakes. I go
right through these phone calls, so as you can imagine,
I go pretty quickly. And I'm doing this off the air,
and we'll probably use the phone calls at some point
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during the course of handle on the law.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
If they're not incredibly stupid, No, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
If they are incredibly stupid, you're guaranteed to be on
the air. The number is eight seven seven five to
zero eleven fifty. I start in just a moment eight
seven seven five to zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And once again, who's coming back?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Amy starts with wake up call at five o'clock with Kono,
Neil and I are here from six to nine every morning,
and of course Cono and helping to produce the show
and doing all the technical stuff. All right, yeah, I
didn't even rip into them today. If you notice that,
I did you feel bad sick?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
No, not in the least Elmer is here taking care
of the board because Cono is sick. Don't know if
Cona's back again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I hopes.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I would not expect him.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He was pretty sick. He beat up, Yeah, and he
never ever leaves either.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Iron clad ethic.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He certainly does, Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Number is eight seven seven, five two zero eleven fifty
starting in just a moment, Coming up, Gary and Shannon
right here KF I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Catch my Show Monday through Friday six am to nine am,
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April twenty four, Some of the big stories we're looking
at the White House is reportedly reportedly exploring giving women
a baby bonus of five thousand dollars to encourage Americans
(00:24):
to have more kids. Now, I will tell you, if
I knew now what I knew, then you could offer
me one hundred thousand dollars bonus to have children, and
I would say no thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Or more. I might dad love my kids, they love
me and my credit card a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Joe Larsgard a host of How to Money every Sunday
from twelve to two pm. He's at how to Money Joel.
That's a social address. Good morning, Joel.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Would you want to spend your money on others?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Hello? Joel? Joel, Joel. I can barely hear you. Let's
start up again.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah? Now I can't. Okay, you were saying it's.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Gonna say what else would you want to spend your
money on other than your kids?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh? Really? Other than my kids? Oh? I don't know,
root canals.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I'd rather spend my money on cleaning up sewage spills.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Maybe you have a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Of goals and priorities with that money.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I certainly do.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Kids are taking away from it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes, Okay, here is something near and dear to my
heart when you brought this up, and that's attending a
timeshare presentation. Oh man, I have never seen pressure like
that in my life, and I'm gonna throw something at you.
You take your life in your hands when you go
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into a timeshare presentation.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, this is one of those things that, sadly I
have yet to do, but I really need to because
I just have to. I have to know what all
the fuss is about being in one of those sales
pitches that's like trying to close the deal and get
you to part from like twenty plus thousand dollars. In
One fell Swoop and The Wall Street Journal, one of
the writers over there wrote about attending a timeshare presentation,
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and she was super excited about it because she's like, Hey,
I got a couple free days in Las Vegas at
a place I was hoping to stay at, and all
I gotta do is attend one of these two hour
time share pitches.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
She survived, but a lot of people don't.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
And time shares, man, those sales pitches can be just
so disarming, and the tactics they use, they get a
lot of people, and yeah, timeshares are just a massive
drain on your finances.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And they, by the way, their offers are legit. Will
send you to Las Vegas for three days. You know,
those are all legit, they're not fake. But the point
is if you take advantage of those and you go
to a timeshare and you have no intention of buying
a timeshare, be prepared for some of the biggest hardest
pressure sales pressure techniques you've ever seen in your life.
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It is extraordinary, and they're very good at it, and
they'll come up with every they'll retort with every objection
you may have, they'll make deals.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And time shares these.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Days are basically used to get used to own property.
One for example, if you had a two week time share,
you would own two fifty seconds.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Fifty two's a timeshare. Now you just get points.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You don't own anything, and those points can be devalued. Yeah,
and when you're talking about kind of the sales tactics
that are used oftentimes there, it's just like, well, we
got to you said no, like thirty two times, but
we've got this limited time offer, and they'll yeah, no,
it's crazy and different salespeople, and so they're trying to
kind of wear you out, and they're trying to give
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you offers that sound better than they actually are, and
they're not.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And they're not in reality, or they may be better
for that minute, but the whole concept is very, very difficult.
There are some time shares that are actually worth it,
Disney time shares, for example, if you get them during
the holiday season, that's worth some money. The rest of them, well,
there's some that are good, but the rest of them
are not. So I'm going to steal one minute, Joel
(04:14):
and tell you the story when I went to a
time share. I'm glad you brought those up. I went
to a timeshare just to see I didn't even go
to Las Vegas because I've been there a million times,
just to see the kind of pressure.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have never seen that kind of pressure.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And at one point I said, it sounds good, Please
let me see the contract.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And they would they go, oh no, no, we don't
have a contract.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well how do I sign up without actually looking at
a contract? I'm a lawyer, what do you expect me
to do? Not?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Look at it?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And then the pressure started, well, you're going to get
a special deal, and if you do it today, we're
going to add this and then we're going to add that.
I and but you have to do make it up
right now. You have to make the decision.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I said, hey, I'm not going to make a decision
for And.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Then you talk about the amount of money undred forty
fifty eighty thousand dollars over the course years.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And finally I said, okay, well, thank you very much,
I'll think about it. And as I'm leaving, someone actually
stood in front of me. A manager stood in front
of me. He said, hey, I want to talk to you.
I said, no, I am leaving. Goes no, No, I
want to talk to you. And I said, are you
Are you stopping me from leaving? Do I call the
police and say you will not let me out of
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this room?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is that what you expect me to do? It took
that for them to leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Dude, that is intense.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, oh it's And of course every time someone comes
in and goes, hey, dr Smith just bought what everybody applauds.
What do you care if someone else bought something. I mean,
the whole thing is just ridiculous. So here's the law,
here's the bottom line.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Be really, really careful.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And by the way, Joel, I expect you to go
and see one of these now, and I wonder how
much money you're going to spend on this.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, I will.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And I've got to say too, man, there's people who
are falling into my camp bill were they're super frugal
and they're like free vacation. All I got to do
is attend this ninety minute to two hour presentation and
it seems like it's a deal. But you got to
be really careful because, yeah, if you sign on the
dotted line, which many people feel pressured to do, that
upends the free vacation.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is the most expensive vacation you ever took.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, but you can get it if you know what
you're talking about, and illegitimately. By the way, even if
you're looking at one of those, never never ever sign
there ever one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well, think about this.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
There's a lot of people who have time shares who
don't love them. They're trying to sell them through oh yeah,
sale market for time shares, that's where you go get
one because you're going to get it for pennies on
the dollar.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Absolutely, get to get it for free. Just take one
off someone's hands.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I mean all you've got to do then is pay
the annual maintenance fees, which will go up every year,
so you got to know about that too. But yeah,
when you're talking about paying twenty grand to the person
in the timeshare presentation versus going online and looking at
people selling on sites like Vacacia or something like that,
you might pay a couple hundred bucks or even less
because someone's that vet up with their timeshare.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, so you know, let's not say that that sometime
shares aren't good. I want to reiterate because they're not
all rips. But I'll tell you what is universal is
pressure when you go to one of these time shares.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That is universal.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, enough of that, we've warned people we're going to
leave this segment, and Joel, you have to commit that
you're going to go to one of these.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I just want to let you. I want to know
what you think.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And let's talk about either early retirement or how about
this the California bill to lower rent increase caps, because
in California you can get a ten percent increase every
single year, and that is really hitting a lot of
people very hard time for Joel Larsgard, who clearly does promos.
(07:44):
Just before his segment, I plan it, well, yes you did.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
All right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
If we're gonna have time, I want to jump into
early retirement. But the California bill to create lower rent increases.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
If you live in the city of Los Angeles, you're fine,
it's rent control.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's the rest of the state, the non rent controlled
areas that well, the rent increases are killing people, especially
with the cost of rental units today.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Here's the thing though, So this bill that was introduced
less than a month ago, AB one one five seven
is or excuse me, it's yeah. AB one one five
seven is basically saying, hey, right now, in much of
the state, there are rent caps of five percent plus
inflation the rate of inflation or ten percent, whichever is lower,
and in recent years it has been ten percent. But
(08:36):
to basically say, actually, no, five percent is going to
be the cap on rent increases and I totally get
like the heart and where this comes from. They I
the desire essentially to say, yeah, rents are absurd, they've
been climbing significantly. Most people can't afford to live in
expensive parts of the state. But I also think this
is like the wrong way to address it. It's it's
(08:58):
doing it's going at it wrong way, and so something
like this, and studies have shown this for decades, but
including a recent one in twenty nineteen from Stanford which
basically says, hey, yeah, when you try to cap rents,
what happens is you have fewer units on the market
to help renters who need a place to stay.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah. Yeah, because people invest to make money.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
They don't invest to break me. And we're talking about
property owners.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You don't invest to lose money or to break even
with your money.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And a lot of rentals are mom and poppers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I think that's the majority of the rental units in California.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And you know, this is their life savings.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And can you imagine you're investing your life savings and
you're never going to make a dime and you still
have to repair and clean and maintain.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Although I will say what happens when these more severe
rent control laws come into place is not only do
we have fewer units, but we also have landlords taking
care of those units a lot less. Like, for instance,
I've got a few rental properties. I just put a
bunch of money into one. And it's not like I
was able to jack up the rent significantly because of it,
but it was like, it's time for me to make
(10:10):
these updates to this property. And what happens when there's
rent control? Will landlords see less a future profit potential
and so they let the place get dingy. They don't
take care of it in nearly the same way. So
those rent controlled units are turned into not necessarily unlivable places,
but over time they can they can get really dingy,
really bad. Yeah, and so this rent control law, it
(10:33):
does worry me because really it's the other side of
the equation that we need to be considering. Instead of
saying you can't charge more than this, we need to
say we need more supply.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's what leads to lower rents.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, and part I mean there has to be a
sweet spot there because you have people that the rent increases,
and if it's going up eight ten percent a year,
it doesn't take you very long until you are literally
you're done. You can't afford it anymore, you're priced out
of the rental unit. And at the same time, you've
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got landlords who buy and they have to make they
have to have an increase in the value because they're
putting money into it. It's an investment. Where's the sweet spot.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I think the sweet spot is truly creating more places
for people to live, and I think that almost everything
shows that, and there's even been studies bill that find
that even if you're putting in like fancy housing units,
like really nice places, we're not talking just even more
single family homes, nicer single family homes, just the idea,
just the reality of adding more livable units that drives
(11:38):
down the costs for everyone. So it doesn't even have
to be like the low cost units that are specifically
targeting people who don't make much money, although that is
not a bad idea too. But creating more supply, even
if it's nicer, higher end supply, leads to lower costs.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It puts price pressure on what people are able to charge.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And so if you're as a renter looking around and
you're like, well, instead of like three options in my
price range, now I've got like eight options. Well, then
a rent control cap isn't needed in the same way,
and then it's actually counterintuitive, and I think it is anyway.
But really what needs to happen is incentives deregulation to
allow people to allow more buildings so that people can
have more options when it comes to where they live
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and how much they pay.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
But that's very long term.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The problem is, let's say, right now, they change the
permitting process, they changed the ability to build. Money opened up.
I mean to start going out and buying a piece
of property you're years away from actually opening it up
for rental.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's just not a great idea.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's a great idea, it just almost becomes impossible to
fulfill that fantasy, if you will.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah, and that's why bills like this are politically palatable,
because voters say, well, yeah, like, let's let's stick it
to the greedy landlords and let's make sure that I'm
not seeing massive increases to my rent. And yet the
flip side, it's a slower problem that materializes over time
that people don't even really recognize. Right So, because it's
(13:11):
kind of happening behind the scenes, we're having fewer units
just listed for rent altogether, and we're seeing those those
units become less and less habitable, less and less desirable.
Well that's something that happens really slowly over time versus Hey,
you're the politician who helped me limit what I'm paying
in rent. Mad props to you. I'm going to vote
you back in. And so there's like a Obviously politicians
(13:32):
want to do what's most expedient, and that's to me
what this bill does at the expense of the long
term benefit for Californians.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
All right here, I mean, we are out of time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
We're let's talk about early retirement next next Thursday, because
that is really important. And I just saw I went
on Amazon and just saw a great product, and that
is a street a number of an address number that
adheres to dumps much better than others do. It's really
(14:03):
a great thing because that's where you're going to retire to.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
We're coming We're going to come back next week with
Joel do early retirement because there's a world to that.
Joel Sunday from twelve to two pm right here on
KFI how to Money, and his social address is at
how to Money.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Joel.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Joel, have a good day. We'll talk to you in
next week and we'll hear you on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Sounds good, Thanks Bill.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Take care. What else is going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, we now have a philosophical debate and it has
to do with fossil fuels and.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
National monuments and how do the two combine.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, as we know Donald Trump, as part of his campaign,
as part of why he was elected, his philosophy is
we have to push push fossil fuels, coal mining, back
to that oil drilling because the argument is we want
to be energy independent. And that's legitimate because to rely
(15:05):
on other countries for energy, soul reliance or to a
great extent, we are at their mercy.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Do you remember nineteen seventy three, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
If you've read it, Opek quadruple their prices and the
gas war started with.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Them starting it and them winning it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
And this was Opek where we had gas lines like crazy.
So the administration, I think it's a legitimate argument. And
here's why people are upset the Trump officials. The administration
is analyzing whether to remove federal protections from national monuments
(15:41):
in order to spur energy development on public lands. No
final decision has been made, but what the Trump administration
is doing is taking these national areas, these monument areas
and saying we are going to open them up to
oil drilling, oil drilling, even coal mining.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And the list includes.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And I love this a the baij Nuajo nuavjo Ita
kouk Venni ancestral footprints of the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
They have to keep that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Particular park open longer because it takes that much more
time just to mention the name.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You also have ironwood forests.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Chukawala, No idea where those are, the Oregon Mountains, Desert Peaks,
Organ Mountains, I guess bears ears, Grand Staircase, Escalane. These
are in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Utah. And it
all has to do with boosting American energy and critical
minerals production, which the President says is vital to economic
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growth and powering artificial intelligence. Don't know if that's true
or not, but the reason this can go forward is
that the President has declared an national energy emergency. There
are a lot of emergencies that the President has declared.
The president does have the right to declare national emergency,
(17:10):
for example, the Alien What Sedition Act, the Foreign Agent Act.
I'm now mixing up the name of it, under which
people can be deported without due process. That's been invoked
or interred without due process.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's been invoked.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Twice in the history of the United States, both times
during war. And he has declared the migrants coming into
this country a national security issue, basically a war issue.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And the same thing with energy emergency.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's a national energy emergency which establishes an energy Council,
which can fast track resource development projects and actually dismantle
environmental protections. And again, does the president have a right
to do that? That Supreme Court goes up and up,
So it's a legal right over the right of a
(18:08):
president to grant the sweeping lands protections under the nineteen
oh six Antiquities Act, which is really bizarre.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
What the Trump administration is doing is.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Grabbing onto these laws and which enable him to make
declarations and to do things that no president has ever
tried before except in times of war. So he shranked
the boundaries of Utah's Bears eers the Grand Staircase Escalante.
(18:42):
Now that was in his first term. Joe Biden reversed that,
and now the president is reversing that. This is a
real interesting position because if you're an environmentalist, You're going
out of your mind. You are part of the oil,
(19:03):
the gas industry, the coal industry. You're saying, we've got
too much land. We can take bits and pieces. Now
are they going to drill right there? In for example,
the National Monument itself in the middle of Yosemite.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So when you go down the Yosemite Valley, there you
see oil derricks. I don't think so. But right behind
the mountain half.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Dome there are the oil wells that are covered up
with trees. Now, obviously I'm exaggerating, but there are millions
and millions of acres that have been deemed national properties
and national monuments that cannot be touched. And what the
president wants to do is open those up. And again,
(19:54):
which side of the coin are you on? And what
ends up happening is an and this is a secondary issue,
and that is the more energy is produced via fossil fuels,
and we're talking about oil, coal particularly, I think the
less incentive is to go into alternative energy at this point.
(20:18):
For example, solar solar was hideously expensive.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Now it is competitive. Which way do you go on solar?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
And then earlier I did a segment on the utility
companies arguing against the incentives to put.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Solar systems home solar systems and create your own energy.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So it's this is an issue, and we're seeing it
more than any other presidency. And that is President Trump
stretching the limits of any president's powers. Unlike we have
seen probably since FDR, where FDR was reacting to the
(21:03):
Great Depression, this president is not reacting to anything. This
is a fulfillment of his basic belief. And we'll see
how far his presidential powers go. I'll tell you he's
got Congress behind him. There is not a power that
he's asking for that the Republican Congress does not want
(21:23):
to give him.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It does not matter.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And do we have the courts, Well, Supreme Court is
open to giving the president far more power than it
ever has before because of the super conservative court.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And you have the Senate.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Well, at this point, the Senate again is Republican. I
mean all three branches are controlled by the Republicans. Does
that mean that this is going to occur, don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And once.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
A coal mine is opened up, drilling has started, it's
hard to undo that. And remember this is executive order,
this is not Congress passing this bill.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We're passing this policy.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
All right, coming up, Mo Kelly and let's do a
little bit of movie news, and this one is kind
of fun. Mo Kelly has heard every night Monday through Friday,
seven to ten o'clock host of Later with Moe Kelly
and Mo is our go to guy when it comes
to entertainment and movies. And Mo, there's a horror movie
(22:32):
out there that you told me about.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A quick word.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I will never ever see a horror movie because I
still sleep on with the night lights on at night,
and I do not do well in horror movies. It's
called Sinners, And in five days it's become one of
the highest grossing horror movies of all time.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Why because there's zillions of horror movies out there. What's
with this one that it works?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, that's what makes this movie so special.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Not only is it one of the highest grossing horror
movies of all time, especially what it's done, it's having
an international positive response. It's gross more than sixteen million
dollars across the world. You have the United Kingdom more
than three million. I'll give you an example. In France,
it's gross to million dollars. It was the number two
movie behind Minecraft, but it was only in three hundred theaters.
(23:23):
In other words, the top ten movies in France, all
of them had at least twice as many theaters that
those movies were showing in. So this has, i would say,
a very grassroots appeal around the world, and it's touching
people on varying levels. If you happen to be religious,
you happen to be Christian, there's a message in there
for you. If you happen to like horror movies, there's
(23:44):
something in it for you. If you happen to like
the supernatural, there's something in it for you. If you
happen to like vampire stories, there's something in it for you.
And all these things are coalescing at the same time
and making this a very special And also I forgot,
it's an original movie. It's not a sequel, it's not
a remake, it's not a reboot.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, so let me get this correct.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Casper gets crucified, and he tells the world about his
philosophy of death and what other part of it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, let me let me go to someplace else on
this one. What was it you talked about? Sixteen million
dollars gross.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Right, sixteen sixty million domestically? Oh, six zero six zero domestically.
But okay, okay, so that's pretty good. Well, do you
happen to know what the budget was?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yes? Is ninety million.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Okay, So I'm going to compare that to a movie
that is I think it's made all kinds of history.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Remember the blair Witch Project. Absolutely, okay, blair Witch.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Project, which in today's dollars would be one hundred and
five thousand dollars to make, adjusted for inflation, one hundred
grand to make it grossed over four.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Hundred million dollars. Is anybody or any movie ever going
to match that?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Not as far as return on an investment?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, So ninety million, and so far it's done sixty million,
So it's done half of its budget. And this is
considered a huge win because it just started and the
snowball is now going down the mountain.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
The snowball is picking up steam.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
It's one of the few movies, regardless of genre, which
has a more high nineties Rotten Tomatoes audience meter and
also critic score. So it's being universally received positively, and
the word is getting out about the movie. People heard
about it, but now people are seeing it multiple times.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Sin it's picking up momentum.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Have you seen it yet?
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yes? I have?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Oh and what did you think?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
I related to it on a number of levels. I
related to it as a Christian.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
I related to it as someone who's knowledgeable about American
history and African American history in the South.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It's a period piece.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
It's set in the nineteen thirties, and it's making the message.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
I don't want to give.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Too much away, but it's telling the story that if
you allow certain things in your life, you are inviting
evil into your life. And that has been true from
then up until now.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh. So it's also a message film.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yes, it is most definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Wow. Okay, do I go see it? When's it gonna
hit cable?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You're gonna hit streaming because I don't go to movie, Yeah,
any idea.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I don't know specifically, but I would expect it's gonna
have at least five to six weeks run in the
theaters because it's picking up Steve and it's going to
be adding theaters, which means we'll have a longer run
in theaters.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Got it all right? MO? Catch you tonight seven o'clock
or it's later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
All right, well we're done.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
We're done, And before we bail, a quick word about
phone calls. I am taking phone calls and giving marginal
legal advice right now, and I'll probably do it for
half an hour forty minutes with no brakes. I go
right through these phone calls, so as you can imagine,
I go pretty quickly. And I'm doing this off the air,
and we'll probably use the phone calls at some point
(27:11):
during the course of handle on the law.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
If they're not incredibly stupid, No, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
If they are incredibly stupid, you're guaranteed to be on
the air. The number is eight seven seven five to
zero eleven fifty. I start in just a moment eight
seven seven five to zero eleven fifty.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And once again, who's coming back?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Amy starts with wake up call at five o'clock with Kono,
Neil and I are here from six to nine every morning,
and of course Cono and helping to produce the show
and doing all the technical stuff. All right, yeah, I
didn't even rip into them today. If you notice that,
I did you feel bad sick?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
No, not in the least Elmer is here taking care
of the board because Cono is sick. Don't know if
Cona's back again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I hopes.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I would not expect him.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
He was pretty sick. He beat up, Yeah, and he
never ever leaves either.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Iron clad ethic.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He certainly does, Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Number is eight seven seven, five two zero eleven fifty
starting in just a moment, Coming up, Gary and Shannon
right here KF I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
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