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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The other perfect canfie handle here? Oh, yes it is.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's a Friday, December twelve, Foody Friday, which means at
eight o'clock Neil and I do Foody Friday, and then
at a thirty we go right into ask handle anything,
which is always great fun. Now we'll talk a little
bit about LA traffic. As you know, LA traffic is horrific. Surprisingly,
it is usually the worst in the country, even the
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worst in the world. But this year a little bit better.
Why would you think that LA traffic has actually gotten better?
It actually has incrementally gotten a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Why do you think that is amy.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Because less people are driving?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, thank you, oh god.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
This is of course less people are driving is getting
but not necessarily by the way, no, no, I take
that back. That is a reason why it is a
really interesting concept. The reason LA traffic has gotten incrementally
better is because it is so bad it can't get worse,
so the only way it can, the only way it
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can go is up a little bit. That is the
main reason why LA traffic has gotten better. Also, there's
something else that happening and that is and there's been
a bunch of cities that have done this. Lowering the
speed limit, forcing people to go slower actually removes congestion.
It's actually better for congestion if you go slower, which
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if you think about it makes sense. Why because you
don't have as many crashes, you don't have as many
short stops. It's just it's an easier way for traffic
to flow. Okay, So here's La. We are the home
of Karmageddon, the Sigalart Roads rage all.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Came up here.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And there's a global traffic scorecard from this country in
Ricks transportation analytics firm, And in twenty twenty five, La
was the most congested city, tenth most congestic city in
the world.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Not bad, by the way.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
We are fourth in this country now, behind Chicago, New
York and Philadelphia. And throughout the mid to late twenty
tens we were number one in the world as far
as horrible traffic. So why has it gotten better? Well,
commuting habits have changed completely because of the COVID pandemic.
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I mean we just drive differently less, we do some
remote working. You also have the struggles downtown with vacancies.
It is a mess downtown with the vacancy rates. For example,
to give you an idea, vacancy rates in.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Downtown LA have gotten worse.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's up to I think thirty eight percent vacancy rate
versus is a century city thirty eight percent vacancy versus
Century city which only has a seventeen percent shortfall. Big,
big difference. The bottom line is is that LA and
also a lot of it has to do with we
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don't know how to drive in LA. When it rains,
it's end of the world headlines. When it rains. You know,
the happiest, happiest people on the planet when it rains.
Personal injury lawyers, the number of fender benders, the number
of accidents that happened. Now, Amy, you lived up in
the Pacific Northwest, right, when you're driving and it's really
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pouring rain, do you even pay attention to it? Or
are you so used to it and the roads are
all designed for rain.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You're pretty much used to it.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, people know how to drive in It's now when
it snows, it's a mess because we rarely get snow
in Portland.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Okay, fair enough, and because we never see rain here.
The second we see a drop of rain, all of
a sudden, we're in a lot of trouble. By the way,
is it when we talk about the oils on the road,
makes the oil make the roads slippier, slipper slippery or
because the water's hitted?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is that a myth?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I don't know if it's a myth, but I certainly
think that it's real.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That's what I think. Everybody thinks it's real.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Is that a Is that real that the roads are
slippier slip step, Yeah, you're more slippy the.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
First rain after that. Yeah, that would make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It does. But is that an urban myth?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah? There are such things as gerbils and we know
where can we know where gerbils can't fit in?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And that is an urban myths?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, according to the Google, roads are significantly more slippery
the first time it rains after a dry spell because
water mixes with built up oil, grease, and all right,
rubber dust on the surface, creating a slick, hazardous film
that reduces your tires traction.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Okay, experience that, Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I mean, I don't I was just asking about that
because there's there are a lot of things out there
that are myths, urban myths that we everybody believes in.
In any case, just to give you some raw numbers,
according to this report, it's in Rix's report, traffic delays
cost the average LA driver US sixteen hundred dollars. That
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was in twenty twenty five. That's going to be this
year now, sixteen dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
A lot of money.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But when you look at the entire figure the whole city,
eight point six.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Billion dollars is what the delays are.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And we sit in traffic, sitting there with our fingers
up our nose and scratching our nards, mostly men, for
eighty seven hours per year, three full days of just
sitting in traffic, hopefully listening to this show in the morning.
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But we're better. We are better than we were last year.
We've gotten better. Tell you what else is going on
the Justice Department. There's a new memo that calls for
a cash reward system. Okay, why it would encourage Americans
to report suspected domestic terrorist activity, which could be inspired
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by a number of things.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
According to the memo, what is domestic terrorism? Number one?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Opposition the law and immigration enforcement, or support for radical
gender ideology is considered. What is considered domestic terrorism focus
does want to call the Antifah aligned extrese stremism, and
interestingly enough, the violent white supremacy movement is omitted. That
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is not a domestic threat. Is, for example, the Proud Boys.
Those are not domestic threats. It's if you are in
support of radical gender ideology. I mean, it's that crazy,
it's just so insane. It's the problematic political and social
agendas that include opposition to law to law and immigration enforcement,
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extreme views in favor of mass migration and open borders.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So therefore you are violating the law.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And if you tell if you tell us that your
neighbor is doing that, we'll give you a cash reward.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
What does that remind you of?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And the memo was was sent by Pam Bondi, the
Attorney General, to federal prosecutors and law enforcement agencies. Follows
on a Presidential Memory Memorandum which was signed by Trump
right after the killing of Charlie Kirk, and it talks
about what are the causes of domestic terrorism activity quote
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hostility towards traditional views on family, religion, and morality, that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Is the basis for terrorism.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Wow, I mean that's genuine scar that's genuinely scary. And
they're saying, and if your neighbor, if you suspect your
neighbor takes some.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Pictures, call us up. Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And some national security experts are saying, boy, is this
a change in operational shift, because what it does is
direct federal prosecutors and agents to approach domestic terrorism that
is ideologically one sided, and it is. It does not
mention any terrorism that exists among white supremacts.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It does not exist.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
For example, President Trump talks about the cities being out
of control. They're all democratic cities. Where do you put
in it? Where do he nationalize the guard in democratic cities?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Why?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Because there is no Republican led city in the United
States that has a problem, not one. If you're not
frightened by that, if you're if you're in Congress and
you're a Republican and most of them are lawyers, and
you're looking at a memorandum that says domestic terrorism, which
by the way, does not exist as a legal concept.
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It doesn't calling an organization a terrorist organization is true,
a foreign domestic terrorist or a foreign terrorist organization. Yes,
the legal concept of domestic terrorism does not exist.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
When you mentioned that it's not in the law.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's a phrase that's sort of a general use phrase,
like Antiphah. Right, it's not a group, it's it's a philosophy.
It's an ideology, that's what it is. So you say,
we're going after the Antiphah members.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Who who's a member.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Of the Antipha sign up? Who's the president? Where are
they located, Whe're the headquarters? It doesn't exist, and it's
an ideology. And much like the concept of domestic terrorism,
that phrase does not exist. But the scary part is
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that memo does. That memo does, and it lays out
in no uncertain terms, terrorism in this country. Domestic terrorism
is the left wing, it is not the right wing.
That does not exist. And we go back to it
doesn't matter what you do. If you are backing this president.
You can overrun the capital, you can beat police officers,
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you can rifle through files, you can break into legislator's offices,
and that's all patriotism is what that is. However, the
people outside that are protesting against that, they're the ones
that are breaking the law. I don't know if you're
frightened by that stuff. I'm scared to death, I really am.
I just don't like where this country is going. I
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don't like what's happening. I mean, I can't imagine the
government saying, turn in your neighbors. I can see turn
in your neighbors if there's a crime committed. Oh my mistake,
my mistake. There is a crime being committed, absolutely right,
and the crime is being anti administration. There's there's the crime.
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Okay story out of the Atlantic I want to share
with you. And this has to do with actually how
rude people are, or employers and employees, and both have
a real complaint. The employer has a real well to
start with, the employer, they offer someone a job, and
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that's someone doesn't show up, or doesn't respond to emails
or sends out a second request or sets up an
interview on zoom.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No one shows up.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Employees, potential employees are on the other side. They're saying,
we send out resumes, we don't even get a response,
not even especially with today's algorithms, not even thanks for applying.
Unfortunately the position has been filled, and we'll keep your
file on record, which of course they don't. But there's
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at least a semblance of humanity there where there's a
semblance of caring gone. And then I started looking at
this article and it actually gives us a history of
disparity and why today we have financial disparity. Certainly the
rich are getting rich and the poor are getting poorer
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and is really widening big time. One of the things
about America which I love, which all of us love,
is we really don't have a class differentiation.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
We do in the sense of money. There's definitely.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
A thinking that people who have money are in a
different class than people who don't. The other side of
that is anybody can have money because we're the land
of opportunit unity.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You can go there.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You go to countries, you go to Europe, for example,
and the classes are set. You're born in a class
and anybody born in a lower class is never moving up.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And when you talk about class differentiation.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
And this is the part that I absolutely love, the
history part is through the eighteenth and nineteenth century in
Europe and America, manners good manners essentially boiled down to
good fences, make good neighbors, We keep apart, We're going
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to do just fine.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And how do you avoid class conflict? Well, you avoid
each other is what you do.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You don't talk to people, which actually works for me beautifully,
and anyone associating outside of his or her class was discourage.
Now there was class mixing, because that's just society. People
maintain psychological distance by acting with extreme formality. And there
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we go back to the application, which no one even
gives formality. Thank you so much for applying, you know,
a very formal sense, a polite sense, as opposed to
you don't stand a chance get out of my life.
We don't do that, But we don't even do the
formality anymore. That just doesn't exist. So in those days,
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people maintained psychological distance with acting extreme formality. Now when
people did clash, the norms dictated that the privileged classes,
in fact, they were awarded the prerogative of violence. And unfortunately,
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it's much like what happened in the United States, and
we talk about the extremes prior to the Civil rights movement.
If a black man attacked a white that would be
years and years in prison. If a white man attacked
a black, Okay, no big deal. The same thing with
accusations of any crimes, accusations of improper conduct.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I mean, it didn't matter across the board.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, that comes from where it did come from, especially
in Europe, the issue of the classes. There's an eighteen
fifty nine guide the courtesy. I love this, and it's
called The Habits of Good Society, and it advised that
if a gentleman were confronted with a dishonest cabman, a
taxi driver, you know, horse and buggy, if he is
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confronted with a dishonest cabman, one well dealt blow settles
the whole matter. Now, I think we should take that
to uber and lyft drivers. If uber and lyft drivers
are acting out and you're in the back seat quoting
from the quoting from The Habits of Good Society, one
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well dealt blow settles the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And since you're behind the driver, it makes it much easier.
So etiquette reminders from those days.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well, social inferiors are social inferiors. Theoretically we don't have
the here in this country, but in reality we really
do get some money.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
All right, we're done with that. That was an interesting,
interesting combination. I really enjoy that all right. Great story
out of the Atlantic, and it's entitled how some mid
life women are quietly quitting their husbands, still stay married,
but are sort of just backing up, just sort of
dropping out without physically dropping out. It's like showing up
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in class and just doing the absolute minimum to stay
in class. And Neil and I talked about quietly quitting work,
where you don't want to quit because you're still getting
the paycheck, but you do the absolute minimum amount of
work that you humanly can.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's quiet quitting.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So now there is this article that came out and
this is a thing, quietly quitting husbands, and they're starting
to look at this in terms of surveys, and it
is surprising how many women quietly quit their husbands. And
they stay married one of the things. And a huge
number of women don't particularly like their husbands. My parents
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were married for fifty five years, and they hated each
other for fifty five years. And I was wondering, you know,
as I grew up, but why did they stay together? Well,
because they were expected to stay together. Why did they
have kids? Well, they were expected to have kids, And
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that there is the problem.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And today it's a different animal. It really is.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Women are simply not getting divorced, and they're quietly quitting,
not even pretending. So what would you think The number
one reason is that women are quietly quitting and they're
not getting divorced, amy, What would you think the number
one reason.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Is they don't like them anymore?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, yeah, no, but but they're still there. No, but
they're still there, They're still married. They're quietly quitting, So
why are they staying? Yeah, why do you think they're?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Financial reasons?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
There you go that you think is the number one reason? Neil,
what do you think the reason people don't get divorced
and they're quietly quitting costs?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Okay, you also put costs.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's and I thought that too, and still until I
started looking at this and the numbers started coming up,
and you.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Know what it is. It's not money.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Money is second or third. Really, a lot of it
is inertia. It is easier to quietly quit and just
keep on going and just I'm just not gonna do
it because it's you know, that's the way life is.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Money is certainly a part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But usually do that though I couldn't do that with
a job. I don't want to be somewhere just for money.
I don't want to be in a relationship too because
it's comfortable.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Okay, let me ask you this how many people are
in a job just for money and they do not
like their jobs. And especially in this day and age,
especially since there are no jobs out there, you'd be surprised. Neil,
you happen to be very, very lucky. You know, I
really like what you do.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
There's a lot of things I like to do right.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And by the way, that is the other reason why
women don't get divorced.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And they quietly quit because their lives are full.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
They're filling up their lives with other things, both business
and hobbies. And women used to be barefoot and pregnant
in the fifties.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What'd you do, husband went off to work.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You have the white picket fence, You had a dog
named Spot, You had two kids, or you had two
and a half kids, if one of them were trans
whatever it was, and that was just the way women worked. Well, today,
it's obviously a very different animal. Men haven't changed that much.
Men still wake up and they go to.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Work and very simple creatures.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We are very so.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And then wives are making breakfasts for men. You know,
here's a pop tart, leave me alone. Those No one's
ever made breakfast for me, mainly because I wake up
at you know the crack of.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
The middle of the night, as you do.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
But it is I look at my parents and it
was pure inertia.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
They did not like each other.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
The only thing positive about my parents is, and that's
made my dad a good guy, is that he and
my mother split the housework. He actually did half of
the housework, which is very unusual when you talk about
a traditional couple. But that was it. So in the meantime,
people are quietly quitting. So there is where was this.
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There's a book called Foreverland by this woman Heather.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Have Risky, have Realisky.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm so good with names, and she says the world's
most impossible endurance challenge is marriage. And here's something really
interesting she wrote, which I love. If you work at
the marriage is not hard.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's actually too easy.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Now that's sort of counterintuitive, right, And here's what she
says about this. If you work at the same company
for two decades, you're incentivized to make it work.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You're incentivized by.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Raises, by promotions, you compete with other colleagues for that
corner office. If you don't perform, you get fired. So
let's look at marriage. Couples get rewarded at the beginning
of their marriage with this pot. I love wedding gifts.
It's a signing bonus simply for saying I do. Okay,
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that's such a crass way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I love it. The honeymoon is a vacation that you
haven't earned.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Here have a honeymoon or take a honeymoon once you
are married. No higher up supervises your attitude tracks your productivity.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
There's no one there to oversee that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Uh, it's both of you as co workers to review
your performance, and you never do so. Typically, that kind
of self reflection and accountability only comes up when you
see a marriage counselor when you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Think about it and it's it's it's a job, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
I mean, you know in sex, you know women have
to put up with sex or the husband.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Okay, you do it because you sort of have to, right.
So was it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Newly wet? Well?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, yeah, I know, newly well.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, last Sunday, Lindsay goes come on, Bill, I go
Sunday I got football, leave me alone. And so the
next day it's Monday night football, leave me alone. And
strangely enough, the next time it happened was Thursday. Thursday
night Football, Leave me alone. Okay, we're none sociological Bill here.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
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