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June 9, 2025 26 mins
7a - Alex Stone joins Bill to talk about what he saw witnessed during the ICE protests

7:20a - The Legal issues raised by Trump sending the National Guard to LA

7:30 - The travel ban has now taken effect. What does that mean for the World Cup and the 2028 Olympic Games?

7:43 - Mayor Bass signs $13.9 Billion LA City Budget
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on a.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Monday morning, June ninth.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, we've got the protests, We've got the riots that
are here in Los Angeles being covered internationally. I might
add Alex Stone, ABC News correspondent with us in La
Alex from your point of view, what are you seeing
and what is happening?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Hey Bill, good morning. Well things look a lot colmer
this morning. Traffic is moving. You heard there at Will
a moment ago, but traffic is moving through downtown. Whereas
last night everything was shut down. The one on one
was shut down as well. Today it looks a lot
more normal, minus the burned out WAYMO vehicles and the
spray paint on the buildings and some of the remnants

(00:51):
of the projectiles of the LAPD was shooting off of
the foam and the sponge rounds that those are still
all over the street. But buses are running streets, cars
are going through the streets, so it looks fairly normal
this morning. Let's be a question of where this goes
today of now that we go into a weekday, typically

(01:12):
and previous protests, things would calm down tonight, that people
have school to go to tomorrow, they've got work to
go to tomorrow, and that they're there today. Then does
that calm things down just naturally tonight. Everybody's hoping it does.
But once the sun goes down, to those same groups
who seem to enjoy battling the police and creating damage

(01:33):
and creating chaos, do they come back out.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Nobody knows how many arrests were made, if any, do
you know?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, so we're at around sixty right now. But the
problem being, and I mean you've seen it, that they
as whether it be the LAPD or the CHP or
the federal agents who are taking part, not the National Guard,
they don't have arrest powers. That they are so busy
trying to clear the streets and the freeway and move

(02:00):
people back that making an arrest takes time and it
takes resources. They've got to move in, make the arrest,
move that person back to a patrol car, process them somewhere,
transport them to jail, do the paperwork, book them into jail.
They just don't have the time to do it. So
the numbers are relatively low. It's a few dozen, but

(02:21):
as they're moving through and shooting off foam rounds and
pepper balls and moving with the horses and moving with
the skirmish lines. They don't have the time to be
going in and they'd be arresting everybody. I mean, they
could make thousands of arrests of all of those people
who will now move and are shooting fireworks at them
and throwing concrete and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
They just can't do it as they're going in. And
by the.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Way, you hear a lot about tear gas. The FEDS
use it. The LAPD does not use it any longer.
They haven't used it in decades except for very specialized things.
So they are not shooting off tear gas as they
are moving through. Smoke bombs, the foam rounds, the pepperballs,
but they're not tear gas.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
How violent was it and now how what the how
it's being reported?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
How violent it was?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, I mean it was pretty violent overnight based on
what was being thrown at and fired at at police
of industrial grade fireworks being shot at the horses and
at officers who were marching down the street. But one thing,
and Angelino's know this well, I mean it's being portrayed nationally,

(03:28):
is that it's the Rodney King riots of the nineties,
and that it's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
People are driving to work this morning.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
If they're not going into downtown, and really if they're
not even going into downtown in that ten block area,
it's normal and it's not. It's obviously, I mean, we
all know, not city wide right now, but it in
that confined area and in Paramount on Saturday it was
pretty violent, but it didn't.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Go really beyond that area. And that the hope is
that a won't this won't keep getting bigger.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
It's been getting bigger Friday night, then Saturday, then last night.
Hopefully it doesn't grow tonight and the LAPD is going
to try to contain it in I had.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Lunch with some friends yesterday and they're South African. They
been in this country for many, many years, and they
got phone calls from several friends and family members in
South Africa that the reports there were exactly as you said.
The Southland is in fire. It's upset. It's a kin

(04:33):
to the Rodney King, it's a kin to the Watts riots. Well,
I wonder why that is that just your opinion.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I know there's well, I mean, there's a lot of
political rhetoric out there. There are leaders of different federal
agencies at the moment who are xing out what do
we call it now, tweeting out quite inflammatory things. There
are a few networ out there that are amplifying a

(05:02):
lot of that and showing it like it is all
of southern California. So yeah, I think there's a number
of different reasons for it, but there is definitely an
image out there that all of southern California is fires
are being set and there are riots in the streets
and the military needs to come in and it is
a pretty small area.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, when you think about it, this is one time
that the government is interested in amplifying the problem at
perception wise, than it is in trying to calm things down.
It's very very interesting the way it's all going, Alex, thank.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
You so much. You got to appreciate it all.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right, coming up, the National Guard was sent in, as
you know, President Trump went ahead and instituted by law,
he called.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
In the National Guard.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I'm going to talk a little bit about the
legal issues because you know, did he have to do that.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, I'm going to give you some of the takes
on this one and we'll be right back. Can't fie
handle here. It is a Monday morning, June.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's gonna be a nice day today, and we're going
to see if the protests continue on today in light
of what's happened in the last two days. Alex Stone
ABC News correspondent just reported to us and talking about
how last couple of nights the protests against the immigration
policies and picking up illegal migrants by the Department of

(06:24):
Homeland Security has just increased so dramatically. And what the
President has done is nationalize. Well, the National Guard is
already nationalized, but it is the president who makes the
call and brings in the National Guard. The governor does not,
even though it's a state guard, I mean their state.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
The whole thing is run by the States.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But then you have the National Guard, which really is
under the president's purview. And the way it works in
the States is, as I said, the governor asks the
President to call in the National Guard, and that's basically
the procedure. Well, Newsom did not with these protests going
on downtown. Newsom said, we have all the people we need.

(07:07):
We have a local law enforcement that can take care
of this. The president thought differently and thought that it's
time to bring in the FEDS. A lot of controversy there. Tomhoman,
the borders are announced, the plan to send in the
National Guard, and he said, this is about enforcing the law.

(07:29):
We're not going to apologize for doing it. We're stepping
it up. Oh, it is enforcing the law. And well,
here's what he said. We're already ahead of the game.
We're already mobilizing. As if this has become so overwhelming,
and as Alex Stone reported and my conversation with my

(07:50):
friends Anthony and Lauren yesterday who were from South Africa,
the perception around the world is this is a kin
to the Rodney King riots, the war riots where half of.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Los Angeles was burning up.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
If you remember that, if you don't, just YouTube it,
look at video of what those riots were about.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Those weren't protests.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean it literally they ignited the city, huge swats
of the city. Watts has never even really recovered. And
if you remember the Ridney King riots, I mean that
went nuts all over the city.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
This is relatively small freeway.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
When a one was blocked off, five way mo cars
were set on fire.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
What I don't want to minimize this, But do you
really think.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's a little bit of an overreach to send in
the Feds, because a lot of this has to do
not just with quelling the problem, and it is a problem,
It has to do with making a huge political statement,
and usually that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's not the case.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nationalizing the Guard without a governor asking for it is
very very rare. It is legal, and to give you
an idea of the circumstances, Dwight Eisenhower nationalized the Guard.
And I think it was Arkansas where five black students
were trying to go to school. The law segregation was

(09:17):
declared illegal by the Supreme Court and some students, the
black students were to go into a segregated high school
now following the law, and Eisenhower went ahead and went
and called for the National Guard. Why because the local
police were on the side of the whites, not allowing

(09:38):
those students to go into the school. The kind of
riots that were going on, the pressure, the blocking of
those students was done by the police, and so the
President said, we have no choice. State officials, local officials
are in fact on the side of stopping those students

(10:00):
from coming in, and we're prepared to fight.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
We're prepared to use arms boom.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
So Eisenhower goes ahead and sends in the National Guard.
That's the kind of emergency we're talking about, not this
kind of an emergency. So is well, let me boil
it down to this, Is it really that much of
a problem. I'm not going to argue that illegal migration
is not a problem, but is this seems to be

(10:26):
the number one issue with this administration, far more than
anything else, or as close. It's right up there with
the global trade war. You think that's more important to
us than illegal migration? And I bring up once again,
I would like to hear and I've yet to hear

(10:48):
that from one person that I know one or any listeners,
if you would let me know how many of you
have lost your jobs to.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
An illegal migrant.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I'd like to know how many don't have a job anymore,
because that's one of the fear they're taking our jobs.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
They are not.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
They're getting all the services some but it's very limited.
And the other side of it, and we can talk
about illegal migration.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Do they help, do they hurt? That's a whole different issue.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
But the point is this is so overwhelming in terms
of the national response that again, do you really put
out a fire in trash bin and call it a
five alarm fire and bring in five trucks to take
out a garbage a garbage bin fire. That's what's going

(11:41):
on now. It looks like today we'll see if there
are more riots or not, or more protests. I'll call
them riots. I have no problem with that because when
you have people that are out of control, yeah, they're rioting.
And the other question I have with these folks, and
I'm going, you guys so stupid. Do you think it's
going to help the block the freeway? Come on, really, guys?

(12:04):
Or to light cars on fire, or to tag up
entire buildings and break windows.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You remember the.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Latino for you, Neil as opposed to the Hispanic demonstration,
what was it, half a million or a million people
in southern California, all demanding and these were illegal aliens,
illegal migrants, as well as people that were here legally
for the most part, all of them Hispanic in the crowd,

(12:35):
and they were demanding that the United States let them in,
treat them fairly, and let them they needed.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
The road to citizenship.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
And there were marches of the hundreds of thousands of people,
not one American flag all. It was a sea of
Mexican flags, all demanding these people to be American. And
I'm going, you can't be this stupid.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
It can't be.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
And that's exactly what I say to protesters that are
blocking off the freeway. Even if I'm on your side
and I am stuck on a freeway for five hours.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Let me tell you, I'm changing my mind. Well, you
know what, you know what the joke is, everybody's Viva Mexico.
Nobody is Viva and Mexico. Good point yep.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
All right, So we'll see what happens tonight if we
hopefully we don't do much reporting about it tomorrow. One
of the aspects of what's going on is the travel
band has just kicked in and what it means and
what it means for our Olympics and what it means
for our World Cup, and that's coming right up.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six fortyfi h.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I am six forty Bill Handle here on a Monday morning,
June ninth. Well, the President last week issued a travel
ban against I think twelve countries and another seven countries,
a limited ban on folks.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Coming into the country.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Now, we've got the World Cup coming up next year,
we have the Olympics coming up in twenty twenty eight,
and how many foreigners do you think come into those events?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Lots and lots.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now, if you talk about folks from Afghanistan, Me and
mar Chad, the Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen,
I mean, how many people come in on those But
those that do come in from those countries spend money.

(14:55):
And when you talk about the World Cup in the Olympics,
how many Americans attend those relative to people from around
the world. I don't know the answer to that, but
it has to.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Be a good amount.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Also limited, not banned, but limited are people from Burundi, Cuba, Laos,
Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, Venezuela. And Trump said that the
reason is the countries had deficient screening and vetting prop
processes and have historically had more people go back and

(15:36):
the countries refuse to even take them after they've overrun
their visa. And here is sort of the weird part
of it, and that is an exception was made for
the teams that are coming in from those countries. Any
athlete or member of an athletic team, coaches, persons performing

(15:56):
a necessary support role, immediate relatives, those are okay from
those banded countries. There are no exceptions from fans coming
into the.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
US for the World Cup or Olympics.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
And it is getting well for them. It's impossible to
get a visa. For other countries, difficult to get a visa.
And when you think about it, fans that are from
those countries that are coming into the US for the
World Cup or the Olympics, this is not a group
of people that overrun visas. This is not a group
of people that do you have any fear of going

(16:34):
back home. These are rich people who have the money
for the flights. How expensive you think the hotel rooms
are going to be taken uber during the course of
the Olympics or the World Cup. How much are you
going to pay? And there's been histories of bands well,
I mean the biggest one was Carter, who was president

(16:56):
at the time of the invasion of Afghanistan by Russia,
pulled out of it.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
America's pulled out.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The next year, Russia pulled out because America pulled out,
or the next Olympics, Russia pulled out because America had
pulled out four years before.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I mean, so politics are all over the place.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Incidentally, if there is truth to what the President said
about the vetting process, where these countries do virtually nothing
to vet and nothing to control folks coming in, I'm
okay with that.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Russia during the course of the previous Olympics when they
had the Olympics, what they did the tickets themselves were visas.
They didn't issue specific visas, although Russia did background checks
on everybody coming in. And frankly, without foreign intervention in

(17:54):
the Olympics form the world being involved.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It's not the same Olympics. For example, Bulgaria.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Always medals in weightlifting, always, especially the women weightlifters. You know,
three hundred pound Bulgarian women truck get in mud, that's
stuck in mud, and they pull them out without a tractor.
They're big, strong women. You can't have an Olympics without those.

(18:27):
And the Chinese with diving, and the Americans with track
and field. Right, Chinese, you're not going to let them in.
You're not gonna let in Bulgarian. I love those three
hundred pound women. They're just fantastic because they lift thousands
of pounds.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I never understood it.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
And you have countries like Iran that we don't recognize
as a country. Do we stop those people? So that's
the other side of the immigration issue. How far do
we go and how it's going to affect the Olympics?
I think big time? All right, coming up, let's get
local for a moment. The Mayor of La signs a

(19:06):
fourteen billion dollar La city budget and how do you
make up a billion dollar deficit? KFI AM six forty
handle here on a Monday morning, June ninth. Some of
the big stories we're looking at Gavin Newsom. Boy, I'll
tell you this fight between the Feds and Gavin Newsom.

(19:28):
He dared Borders Tom Holman to arrest him for failing
to crack down on the anti ice agitators.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Come after me, arrest me. Let's just get it over with,
tough guy.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Because the Feds are saying anybody who gets in the
way of federal officials like the National Guard coming in,
and certainly the argument is that Gavin Newsom did, and
so therefore he's going to be arrested, right, I mean,
it's gotten that crazy, it really has.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
The Mayor of Los Angeles just sign ay thirteen point
nine billion dollar budget for fiscal year twenty twenty five
twenty six.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
And she signed it last day she could. Under the
city charger deadline.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Much like the state of California, there must be a
budget in place by the end of the budget year.
Federal government nah, not so much, Okay. The mayor announced
she had security agreement with the city council to restore
hiring levels for the LA Police Department. That's an additional
two hundred and forty recruits within ninety days, and so

(20:36):
police are going to be increased, or at least not
to the ten thousand that is considered full, but two
hundred and forty more police officers, and the LAPD is
it's like a sieve people cops retiring and or just quitting.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
All right, And this budget.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Has been delivered under extremely difficult condition, she said, uncertainly.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
From Washington.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You bet how much federal money is not going to
come in liability payments, rising costs, lower than expected revenues
because the economy just isn't doing as well.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Homelessness crisis, aggressively.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Combat investment and invest in emergency response and vital city
services like street repair, parts and libraries. Now, a couple
word about a couple words about that. This is ten
pounds and a five pound bag. It is hard, hard
to balance the budget. I'm saying it's almost impossible, because
how do you increase services that need to be increased.

(21:39):
Potholes that destroy cars? How about the fire department? After
the Palisades and the Eton fire, you think that we
need fire department.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
And by the way, there was a story in the
La Times about.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
How fire trucks are past their useful life and we
need hundreds of millions of dollars to replace those, and
so she's trying to figure out how to balance it.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
One of the things that has to go if you're
going to fill what a lot of.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Us consider pretty important city the city jobs that the
city has to do, and things that are absolutely mandatory.
Fire department, you know, that's more important to me than homelessness,
and to virtually any owner of a business or a structure. Also,

(22:36):
the police department. That's more important to me than the
guy living under a bridge. So all sworn officers and
firefighters are funded.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
How about nine to one to one emergency.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Dispatchers where you're put on hold for nine minutes.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You think that's important.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Stuff protection for homeless funding, well, in order to really
deal with the homeless other than incrementally, if you're really
gonna make a dent in homelessness, a huge amount of
money has to be given to a project or projects.

(23:15):
Something's got to give capital infrastructure for the La Convention Center.
You know how important that is. That convention center draws business.
We want conventions in the city of La because you
know how much money comes in the city.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
The city does so much better.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Our convention center is a piece of crap, and we
lose to Anaheim. But then again you've got Disneyland, certainly
Las Vegas, which is the number one convention center in
the country for obvious reasons. There's continuing funding for providing

(23:55):
legal representation Angelinos, and that is people who can't ford
legal representation, which is what everybody. How about keeping animal
shelters open? What are the politics the optics of not
funding animal shelters? Where you see these poor dogs, those

(24:15):
commercials Oh my goodness, those dogs with the big eyes.
How about kids saying we need food would anybody care
not like the dogs, They wouldn't. We just like our animals.
And so the bottom line is how do you put

(24:36):
it all together? You try to balance it, and that's
any mayor, any city council has to do it. So
as one of the council people who is on the
funding committee says, no one is happy with our budget,
and I guess when no one is happy, that's the

(24:56):
best you can do, because you.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Can't be all things to all people.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
As much as I like libraries, I like the fire
department more, as much as I like funding the homeless,
which I think is a huge problem, I like the
police department more.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
All right, we'll see what happened.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, we know what's going to happen, and we'll see
if a real inroads are made.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
All right.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
One thing that the President and the Trump administration wants
to do is bring shipbuilding back to the United States.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Now, let's get practical for a moment and talk about shipbuilding.
You remember, I've said many times you can have a
tariff that kicks in tomorrow, and we want factories to
be built in the United States, which is part and parcel.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Of the tariffs. Tariffs come in in ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Factories take three to four years to build. And let's
talk about shipbuilding because that's an example that's a poster
child of what's happening and going to happen. This is
KFI Am sixty.

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