August 29, 2025 • 32 mins
(Friday 08/29/25)
Newsom says he’ll increase CHP presence in major cities; touts progress in crime. The boss has had it with all the office activists. Disney and the decline of America’s middle class.
Newsom says he’ll increase CHP presence in major cities; touts progress in crime. The boss has had it with all the office activists. Disney and the decline of America’s middle class.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
KFI AM six forty handle here on a footy Friday,
August twenty nine. Also it is ask Candle Anything Friday, Neil,
how are we doing for phone calls on the ass
Candle anything?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Because I know we get a.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Lot or do aptation, But it doesn't hurt to pitch it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, can we still pitch it for this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, we're good on that. That's done. Those were sent yesterday. Okay,
just saying doesn't hurt, all.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, it doesn't hurt. All right, there you go. Thank
you for the information, always appreciated.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Are you gonna pitch it?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No? I want to talk about what's happening on in politics.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh man, what a story now.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The accusation against President Trump and his sending out the
National Guard and the military to various cities around the country,
in my opinion, clearly was a political move.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No issue.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It was the premise that crime is out of control.
It's not out of control now. It's always too much.
It's always a problem, especially if you get hit, if
you are burglarized, if your home is robbed, if your
car is if you've been hijacked of course.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Okay, crime is.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
One hundred percent, But what is the definition of out
of control? I don't think it is, and it's certainly
prior to what President Trump did. I didn't hear that
out of control. So to me, what he did was
strictly a political move.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It is for optics. And guess who gave him the
most grief.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
One of his biggest enemies in the political world is
the governor of the state of California, Gavin Newsom, who
actually is heading, i would say, the national leader of
the anti Trump movement. And as he rips into President
Trump with his out of control premise and needs the
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National Guard and needs federalized the National Guard and bring
in the military, what does Newsom do? Mister We're not
out of control, says, He's going to increase the chippy
president California Highway Patrol, the presidence in major cities, and
he's touting progress on crime, and he's going to combine
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these crime suppression teams from the California Highway Patrol with
local law enforcements, law enforcement in the big city San Diego,
La Sacramento, San Francisco, also the Inland Empire, the Central Valley,
and Newsom said these operations will be targeted and they
will be data driven.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And Newsom already.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Said, look at the progress we've made on crime in
the state, but the numbers alone meet I mean very little,
especially to Californians, because these are aggregate numbers. We don't
live in the aggregate. Everybody lives in a different community,
different conditions, different challenges, and we're mindful that we have
a lot more work to do. That's why we are
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announcing this today. No, that's basically a CROC. He's announcing
it today in direct response of what the president is doing,
much like what he did with posting on x the
president posts some astounding stuff for a president whenever he
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disagrees with someone. You're a moron, you have no talent,
your third rate, you're the worst politician, the worst mayor,
the worst congress person that the world has ever seen.
And Nosen went right back at him, went right there atam.
And so we've gone down to the lowest common denominator,
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even lower than politicians throwing mud at each other.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And how much lower can you get?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And so now we have the California Highway Patrol that's
going to help us with crime. The other question I
have if he is looking at targeted crime, where is
the California High Patrol and the police where are they
going to spend the most time in the most targeted
areas well? It will be in the inner city. And
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so when you move highway patrol and cops into the
inner city because you argue that's where the crime.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Is racist, how dare you do that? You can't win.
It's all lose lose. This is a zero sun game.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But on the losing side where the loss, you can
only have so much loss.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And who picks it up?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is it Newsome? Is it the president? And then the
issue of course immigration is huge. That also is a
massive issue. The president has been hugely successful in deporting
people and the number of illegal immigrants that have come
into this country. Has that translated into more people having
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jobs that the illegal migrants do not have or took away?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't see those figures.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And there is an argument about how much cost the
illegal immigrants do cost our society. And there are people
that say we make money off of them. They go
to work, they pay Social Security, they pay all the taxes,
you know, they buy a box of cereal, They're paying
tax on it. Well, not a box of cereal, but
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they're buying a product whatever it is, they're paying tax
on it, and they come up with a fake social
Security number. So the money goes right into the Social
Security fund and they don't get a dime.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So do we make money? Do we not make money?
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But is the argument that what Trump is doing is
the immigration issue is politics? Yes, I think it's optics
for the most part, Although does he really believe it?
Maybe he does on this one, all right, I'll give
him the benefit of the doubt. On the immigration I
think he does believe that it is an invasion, much
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like the Japanese bob dis at Pearl Harbor. It it's
akin to that. It's the worst invasion in the history
of the United States. All right, Mazoltov on that one.
But you've got Newsome right there. And it's politics. I mean,
do we really need the highway patrol coming in? And
as I said earlier, Neil and I were discussing this
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that when you have thousands of military coming into the city,
crime does go down. You bring in a cop or
military and they all have they all have assault weapons.
Keep in mind they all have assault weapons, and you
put them on each street corner.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
How many car thefts you think are you're going to
see with.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
One guy on that corner, one guy on the other corner,
and they're in uniform and they have these weapons. Now
are they allowed to enforce the law? They are not
the Pasi Comatatis Act where military is not, by law,
not allowed to get in direct policing of the population
of American citizens or who's ever in the United States.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know is that going to change? I think
it is. I think this is all going to hell
in a handbasket.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's pretty depressing, But then again, life is pretty depressing
no matter what. If you're you yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
a lot of EO in me. Oh well, oh gosh.
And when we get when we get I know, when
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we get great ratings, we're when we're at the top
of the ratings chart. Well, next time out, we won't
do as good. You know, we're gonna fall no matter what.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh we're doing wonderfully, people still love you. God only
knows why.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They're not gonna love me next ratings book, They're not.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You're built freaking handle walk walk with your chin up.
All three of them.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Uh. You know, I love to talk about business because
I've been in business, uh most of my adult life.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I've actually founded and run.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Many businesses, most of them being spectacular failures, of which
I'm very proud of. Some went out of business three
days after I founded the business. It actually failed by
the time I file the paperwork. So I've had my
share of businesses. So let me tell you what's going
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on in business. Because the world has changed, political dissent,
companies are cracking down now. When tech people were desperately needed.
Remember there was a time when someone was hired as
a tech person and could go across the street and
add fifty percent more to his or her salary, and
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the companies were desperate well, and so not only did
they get all the perks, but whatever the employees wanted.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
To say political non political.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And there was a time when the companies had to
take a stand on politics, and sometimes actually most of
the time, they had to take a stand on DEI
and what is considered wokeism, and that has killed those companies.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
The smart companies said, uh.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Uh, we're not touching politics, which is exactly what companies
ought to do.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
One way or the other just leave it alone. But
there was a.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Time when it was a demand where you had workers
who got very excited about various issues and causes, and
the companies went in that direction. Well the pendulum has
swung and now it's the other direction, and employees are
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telling employers are telling the employees you're done. No more activism,
not even outside the door, frankly, not even on the chats.
We don't want to hear. And by the way, it's
First Amendment. How can you stop us?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh you can't.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I can fire you. I don't want to hear it.
And that's what these companies are are doing. So Microsoft
fired two more staffers yesterday for engaging in this case
was on site protests against the company's work with the
Israeli military. So two more staffers were fired, and then
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they were shot strangely enough, with a military weaponry from Israel.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And that followed two employees who occupied an executive's office
this week. Political assent is gone. Last year, Google called
in the cops and then fired dozens of workers who
engaged in protest. Tesla fired an employee after he created
an anti Elon Musk website.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now that is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
If you work for Musk and you're going to put
up an anti Musk website, I mean, come on, I mean,
it's like someone here putting up an anti iHeart website.
I would be pitching it and talking about at four
times per show.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And they leave us alone.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Thank goodness, one thing about and I make a lot
of fun of I make a lot of fun of iHeart,
But God bless them, they do leave us alone. No
one tells us what to say one way or the
other at all. So that's a delight. So there's a
new hardline playbook and confronting employees activism.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And there's two reasons for that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
One is the political climate, because if you're arguing for
DEI and inclusion and LGBTQ plus rights in this political climate,
you're screwed as a company, as a university, I mean,
as a law firm, you're done.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
As companies are scared of the Whitehouse.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And should be because the power that Donald Trump has
legitimately no president is ever had his power ever. He
owns Congress. They are scared to death, and no matter
what he does, they're backing him up. He's going after
the judiciary and asking for the impeachment of judges, and
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of course he has the executive branch by law anyway,
so particularly if employees appear to cater to woke forces gone.
The other one has to do with a job market
that has gotten very tough for employees. White collar workers
have lost considerable leverage and you know what happens, They
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get fired.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We don't want employees that are engaged in politics.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's all. You came here to work.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
One professor at the University of Alberta said, the workers
didn't become more militant for fun. They became more militant
as a matter of policy and belief. That does not
comport well with the politics, with our ability to make money.
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Speaking on behalf of corporations, just leave us alone. Just
don't talk politics, and that is the straight way to go.
Look what happened to Target. That was all DEI and
all woke one of the companies that went in that
direction with a vengeance and then had to turn around
because of the new political climate go the other way
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and lost both sides and tanking like crazy. And I
know people who love Target that will not walk in
the door. That's their idea of protest. Oh, just man,
it's a new world. It's a new world.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So can you protest? Can you say something that's at
odds with this.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Gstration and the new political climate? Yes you can? And
how Let me let me tell you this. Let me
give you some advice as to how you can do
it with complete impunity. Get a radio show. That's what's
gonna save your ass. Oh right, Oh, a story.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I want to do. And I love this story because.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It involves Amy and Neil, who are disney fanatics. Okay,
let me start with a statistic. When Disneyland opened in
nineteen fifty five, it costs one dollar for adults to
get in, fifty cents for kids. One dollar in nineteen
fifty five is equivalent to twelve dollars today. Can you
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imagine getting into Disneyland for twelve dollars now? To be fair,
in nineteen fifty five, they didn't have these super duper rides,
and it was a very minimalist park relative to what
it is today. So it's not it's apples and oranges.
But here's what's going on. And I think this has
a lot to do with where society is going. For example,
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if you want to go to the Polynesian Village resort
at at Disney. This is at Disney World, the renovated
eighteen sixty three square foot King Kama Mahamahamma Kama Huma
Sweet at Disney's Polynesian Village.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's probably King Kamama.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh oh, okay, So I was wrong, all right?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh no, you weren't wrong, okay. I was just helping
you with the pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Thank you. Oh I mispronounced something.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Anyway. It's going for three thousand dollars a night, and
if you pay an ext one hundred and seventy nine
dollars you get just all of this sextra stuff, view
of the park's fireworks, and a price fixed meal at
the Michelin Star Victorian Alberts at the Grand Larridian.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Those meals started twelve hundred dollars for two people.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So where was Disneyland Because it was Disneyland when this
all started. Of course, the philosophy of Walt Disney was
priced to welcome people across the entire income spectrum. The
motto of Disney It was everyone is a VIP, and
Walt Disney wanted to create a shared American culture by
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providing the same experience for every guest. So the family
that pulled up in a super expensive car stood in
the same lines, ate the same food, rode the same
rides as the family that arrived in an old, used car.
And back then, why what was going on? Well, we
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actually had a thriving, massive middle class, and that was
the focus of companies for services sales in this case Disney,
the middle class. The taxes were paid by the middle class.
That was the strength of America, the middle class. What's
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happened in the middle class, It's gone. We don't have
it anymore. It has so eroded in size, so eroded
in purchasing power, and the wealth of the top earners
have exploded that Today the most important market across the board,
by the way, is the affluent people that have money
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and a fair amount. And when you look at Disney,
a lot and so the experience we once shared at
Disney are very differentiated now increasingly it happens day by day.
And how is it differentiated by how much money we have?
How much money we are willing to part with at Disney?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And let's talk about why. First of all, just.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The data, the internet, the internet, the algorithm, the smartphone
and the AI now are giving corporations tools to target
fast growing masses of who what's the fastest growth high
net worth Americans?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And it's far easier to target those people. They know
where we are.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Let's just use Disney for a moment, because if you
go to the store, they know when I'm buying SLAMMI
how often where I shop?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
The aisles I go to also costco.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
So they now these and let's go to Disney again.
These private institutions, particularly Disney, are focusing on making the
most money. And where do you make the most money? Now, Well,
you go to the privileged, You go to people that
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have money, and the prices are stunning because they have
figured out sort of knew it, and this has happened
over the years that they make a lot more money
on people who have a lot more money, leaving everyone
else sort of in the dirt. For example, business class
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seats is where airlines make most of their money, far
more than the cabins in the back.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Okay, talking about Disney, of course.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh before we go back to Disney, a quick word
about what's going on. A week from tomorrow, Neil is broadcasting.
I am joining him for the Fork Report at the
Wild Fork store.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I keep on selling restaurants Wow Fork Foods.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And Long Beach. If there one year anniversary, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Unbelievable food will be there for the whole broadcast and
there will be giveaways, There'll be samples. Zelman's will be
there and Neil and I are going to stuff our
faces as you will be able to enjoy some of
the food.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Listeners were thrilled last time.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So please come in. Calendar this one, calendar, this one.
I think you'll enjoy it. And that is a week
from Saturday, two to five pm, Wild Fork in Long Beach.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
All right back, all right back.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
We go to Disney and what's going on at Disney. Well,
if you got money, and this is this is the
world in general, if you have money, you live.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It used to be that Disney was very egalitarian. There
was a huge middle class. Walt Disney wanted everybody to
have the same experience. Money, no money, you were treated
exactly the same. Boy that has changed. The middle class
gone the top earners, those people have exploded, and so Disney,
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with technology, is able to figure out where Americans go
and what they're willing to spend at Disney and Disney
is such an iconic brand. You know, people save years
to do a Disney vacation. That is one of the
highlights of their lives. So when did this all start.
In the nineteen nineties, it started getting a little expensive,
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not only to get in, but also to get in
the front of the line to eat. It was no
longer sort of the same quality food. The pandemic that
blew it and Disney gave up any pretense of being
a middle class institution.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Today, a Disney vacation literally is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
For the top twenty percent of American households, and maybe
the top ten percent. According to a computer scientist who's quote,
unofficial guidebooks and website turing plans give all kind of
advice how to deal with Disney. I love this in
a statement and by the way, he said that Disney
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positions itself is the all American vacation.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
True.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
The ironies that most Americans can't afford it true. Disney
set its goal is to make its experience available to
as many families as possible. No two experiences are the same,
which is why we provide a wide variety of tickets, dining,
and hotel options enhanced throughout the year with promotional offers.
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That is corporate speak for we are going to break you.
You are going to spend so much money on tickets,
you'll be eating.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Cat food for the rest of your life, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So remember the fast pass system that was free when
it started in nineteen ninety nine, and it allowed visitors
to skip the line. They agreed to wait and return
to the ride later on within a time window. Huh,
nothing is free any more. There is a book called
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Tier one Attractions.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's you know, it's a program you can buy. Well.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Tier one attractions are the top of the heap. Those
are the ones that everybody wants to go to.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So if you go to.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
One Tier one attraction plus two lesser attractions front of
the line, you get in eighty bucks. Now, it used
to be fairly cheap, and at times Disney ticket prices
rose slower than inflation.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Not anymore so.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Michael Eisner, Disney's chief executive at the time, back in
the late nineties or two thousands, created a whole new
set of products for the affluent, fancier hotels. The cruise
line wonderful, I've been on it, very expensive, and he
never at that time allowed customers to pay to skip
the lines that was set in stone could not.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Skip the lines.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So Universal Studios in the early two thousands, guess what
they did. They established you can skip the lines if
you pay some more money. And we're talking about more money,
We're talking a lot more money. In the mid two thousands,
the number of affluent, rich people presented a profit source
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so big Disney could not ignore it. Well, here's the
stat in nineteen ninety two there were eighty eight thousand
households worth twenty million dollars or more. It's a lot
of money. But if you go forward ten years or
sixty six hundred and forty four thousand, and so the
people who could and would pay almost anything for a
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Disney vacation, that became a market, and a big market.
So in twenty twelve, the My Disney Experience app gave
guests an easy way to check waittime, showtimes, restaurant bookings,
a lot more. And that's where Disney gained a trove
of information where guests when, where they purchased, how much
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they spent. And it became so integrated that it is
now part and parcel not only Disney, not only the company,
but people use those and the pandemic was the final blow,
so Disney killed the free fast pass system started offering
ride reservations at fifteen dollars for each ride, where you
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can get to the front of the park or the
front of the line. And then over the next three years,
the line skipping options multiplied not only in number but
in price, and so these low weight.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Spots of the best rides.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, you can go on the carousel, or you
can go on Peter Pan all day long and you're
not waiting.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
But man, are you paying?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I don't know about that Peter Pan one. It's it's
on average about forty five minute weights.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's insanity.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, it's consistently like that. I will tell you I
have a hot tip for people with children and food concerns.
You bring a twelve pack of Hawaiian rolls in there,
King's Hawaiian Roles. You get one turkey leg and you
break it up into multiple sandwiches. You can make almost
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a dozen sandwiches, little slider sandwiches for your kids there,
just by bringing that in and getting one turkey leg.
There are and I got that hot tip. Well, I
probably shouldn't say, but there are a lot of ways
to do it. Do single rider lines do There's all
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kinds of things that you can do to keep your
costs down at the parks.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, it only gets punitively expensive as opposed to prohibitively expensive.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Say that, but when you do it per activity, whether
you're going there, you're seeing theater, you're seeing animatronics, you're
going on rides, you're.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Having you get a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, You just got to go early, go at rope, drop,
enjoy the entirety of the day, get your money's worth,
all right, leaves of park hopping for maybe a different trip.
Just go focus on one park and you can do it.
Stay off campus. There's a lot of great hotels around
there that are cheaper and you could pull it off.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Okay, there, it's well, we give you this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
This is typical a California tech guy Sean Hannah Canahan.
But the Lightning Lane Premiere pass front of the line
at each ride. He was already seven thousand dollars in
for a four day trip with his daughter, and he said, hey,
another one hundred bucks to be at the front of
the line. Another nine hundred dollars to be at the
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front of the line.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Is no big deal.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And there is a tip which I can't give you
anymore because lines because it's changed, and that they used
to be if you were handicapped, you used to be
at the front of the line, and there were so
many people that were handicapped. And my advice was there
was a walmart a mile away from Disneyland. You buy
one of those collapsible canes and you walk into the
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park using the collapsible cane. It's only like twelve dollars,
and you used to be limp a little bit and
you'd be at the front of the line.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Unfortunately, those days are.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Gone to other people like you because.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
If people like me.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Okay, how much you spend for your annual pass, Neil,
We don't.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Have the top tier one, so I don't know. Maybe
it's eight hundred dollars a year or something like that.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Okay, do you get at the front of the line anyplace?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, we don't mend to. If you your trip's enough,
you can get plenty there.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Are doing the other day. Yeah, we went to the
park the other day. Did not buy lightning lanes. And
I mean, if you use the app and use it correctly,
and like Neil said, plan your day we got on
all the rides we wanted to go to. It was
a bargain and I did just renew my pass and
I got the top tier and it's worth it for
as much.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
As I go?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Or is it twelve hundred?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
The top tier is seventeen fifty? Now, I think, okay,
But if you go to the park six times in
our year, you've paid for it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Well, Neil goes. I've seen Neil go three times a week.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh, Amy goes more than I do. But I will
tell you this. Another thing is a hot tip. If
it says thirteen minute weight, not fifteen but thirteen minute waight,
that means there's no weight. They just won't put zero
on there because people think the line that the ride
is broken.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay, So when they say one hundred and twenty minute,
wait two hours, No, that's.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
One hundred and twenty minutes. Actually, you people mark these
out and you get good at it. I bet you.
Amy's the same way. You could look at the line
and see if it's accurate or not. Because there's times
I look and I go no, that it is a
much shorter line than what they're saying on all.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Right, so you're telling me the trick that I used
to use with the collapsible cane. Coming in as a
handicapped person is still a good idea.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
No no, but there's plenty of things the line. The
cues are cooler than ever before, so waiting in line
and having a conversation, we play heads up, a little
digital game on the phone, where you where, where you're guessing.
We just there's tons of stuff to do.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, okay, we're done. You said you're ruining my story, right,
all right?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Coming up Foody Friday with Neil Savandra and a Costco
story of course.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
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Speaker 2 (31:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
KFI AM six forty handle here on a footy Friday,
August twenty nine. Also it is ask Candle Anything Friday, Neil,
how are we doing for phone calls on the ass
Candle anything?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Because I know we get a.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Lot or do aptation, But it doesn't hurt to pitch it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, can we still pitch it for this morning?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, we're good on that. That's done. Those were sent yesterday. Okay,
just saying doesn't hurt, all.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, it doesn't hurt. All right, there you go. Thank
you for the information, always appreciated.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Are you gonna pitch it?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No? I want to talk about what's happening on in politics.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh man, what a story now.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The accusation against President Trump and his sending out the
National Guard and the military to various cities around the country,
in my opinion, clearly was a political move.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No issue.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It was the premise that crime is out of control.
It's not out of control now. It's always too much.
It's always a problem, especially if you get hit, if
you are burglarized, if your home is robbed, if your
car is if you've been hijacked of course.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Okay, crime is.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
One hundred percent, But what is the definition of out
of control? I don't think it is, and it's certainly
prior to what President Trump did. I didn't hear that
out of control. So to me, what he did was
strictly a political move.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It is for optics. And guess who gave him the
most grief.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
One of his biggest enemies in the political world is
the governor of the state of California, Gavin Newsom, who
actually is heading, i would say, the national leader of
the anti Trump movement. And as he rips into President
Trump with his out of control premise and needs the
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National Guard and needs federalized the National Guard and bring
in the military, what does Newsom do? Mister We're not
out of control, says, He's going to increase the chippy
president California Highway Patrol, the presidence in major cities, and
he's touting progress on crime, and he's going to combine
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these crime suppression teams from the California Highway Patrol with
local law enforcements, law enforcement in the big city San Diego,
La Sacramento, San Francisco, also the Inland Empire, the Central Valley,
and Newsom said these operations will be targeted and they
will be data driven.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And Newsom already.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Said, look at the progress we've made on crime in
the state, but the numbers alone meet I mean very little,
especially to Californians, because these are aggregate numbers. We don't
live in the aggregate. Everybody lives in a different community,
different conditions, different challenges, and we're mindful that we have
a lot more work to do. That's why we are
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announcing this today. No, that's basically a CROC. He's announcing
it today in direct response of what the president is doing,
much like what he did with posting on x the
president posts some astounding stuff for a president whenever he
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disagrees with someone. You're a moron, you have no talent,
your third rate, you're the worst politician, the worst mayor,
the worst congress person that the world has ever seen.
And Nosen went right back at him, went right there atam.
And so we've gone down to the lowest common denominator,
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even lower than politicians throwing mud at each other.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And how much lower can you get?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And so now we have the California Highway Patrol that's
going to help us with crime. The other question I
have if he is looking at targeted crime, where is
the California High Patrol and the police where are they
going to spend the most time in the most targeted
areas well? It will be in the inner city. And
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so when you move highway patrol and cops into the
inner city because you argue that's where the crime.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Is racist, how dare you do that? You can't win.
It's all lose lose. This is a zero sun game.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But on the losing side where the loss, you can
only have so much loss.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And who picks it up?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is it Newsome? Is it the president? And then the
issue of course immigration is huge. That also is a
massive issue. The president has been hugely successful in deporting
people and the number of illegal immigrants that have come
into this country. Has that translated into more people having
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jobs that the illegal migrants do not have or took away?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I don't see those figures.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And there is an argument about how much cost the
illegal immigrants do cost our society. And there are people
that say we make money off of them. They go
to work, they pay Social Security, they pay all the taxes,
you know, they buy a box of cereal, They're paying
tax on it. Well, not a box of cereal, but
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they're buying a product whatever it is, they're paying tax
on it, and they come up with a fake social
Security number. So the money goes right into the Social
Security fund and they don't get a dime.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So do we make money? Do we not make money?
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But is the argument that what Trump is doing is
the immigration issue is politics? Yes, I think it's optics
for the most part, Although does he really believe it?
Maybe he does on this one, all right, I'll give
him the benefit of the doubt. On the immigration I
think he does believe that it is an invasion, much
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like the Japanese bob dis at Pearl Harbor. It it's
akin to that. It's the worst invasion in the history
of the United States. All right, Mazoltov on that one.
But you've got Newsome right there. And it's politics. I mean,
do we really need the highway patrol coming in? And
as I said earlier, Neil and I were discussing this
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that when you have thousands of military coming into the city,
crime does go down. You bring in a cop or
military and they all have they all have assault weapons.
Keep in mind they all have assault weapons, and you
put them on each street corner.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
How many car thefts you think are you're going to
see with.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
One guy on that corner, one guy on the other corner,
and they're in uniform and they have these weapons. Now
are they allowed to enforce the law? They are not
the Pasi Comatatis Act where military is not, by law,
not allowed to get in direct policing of the population
of American citizens or who's ever in the United States.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I don't know is that going to change? I think
it is. I think this is all going to hell
in a handbasket.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's pretty depressing, But then again, life is pretty depressing
no matter what. If you're you yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
a lot of EO in me. Oh well, oh gosh.
And when we get when we get I know, when
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we get great ratings, we're when we're at the top
of the ratings chart. Well, next time out, we won't
do as good. You know, we're gonna fall no matter what.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh we're doing wonderfully, people still love you. God only
knows why.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They're not gonna love me next ratings book, They're not.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You're built freaking handle walk walk with your chin up.
All three of them.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Uh. You know, I love to talk about business because
I've been in business, uh most of my adult life.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I've actually founded and run.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Many businesses, most of them being spectacular failures, of which
I'm very proud of. Some went out of business three
days after I founded the business. It actually failed by
the time I file the paperwork. So I've had my
share of businesses. So let me tell you what's going
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on in business. Because the world has changed, political dissent,
companies are cracking down now. When tech people were desperately needed.
Remember there was a time when someone was hired as
a tech person and could go across the street and
add fifty percent more to his or her salary, and
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the companies were desperate well, and so not only did
they get all the perks, but whatever the employees wanted.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
To say political non political.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And there was a time when the companies had to
take a stand on politics, and sometimes actually most of
the time, they had to take a stand on DEI
and what is considered wokeism, and that has killed those companies.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
The smart companies said, uh.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Uh, we're not touching politics, which is exactly what companies
ought to do.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
One way or the other just leave it alone. But
there was a.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Time when it was a demand where you had workers
who got very excited about various issues and causes, and
the companies went in that direction. Well the pendulum has
swung and now it's the other direction, and employees are
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telling employers are telling the employees you're done. No more activism,
not even outside the door, frankly, not even on the chats.
We don't want to hear. And by the way, it's
First Amendment. How can you stop us?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh you can't.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I can fire you. I don't want to hear it.
And that's what these companies are are doing. So Microsoft
fired two more staffers yesterday for engaging in this case
was on site protests against the company's work with the
Israeli military. So two more staffers were fired, and then
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they were shot strangely enough, with a military weaponry from Israel.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And that followed two employees who occupied an executive's office
this week. Political assent is gone. Last year, Google called
in the cops and then fired dozens of workers who
engaged in protest. Tesla fired an employee after he created
an anti Elon Musk website.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Now that is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
If you work for Musk and you're going to put
up an anti Musk website, I mean, come on, I mean,
it's like someone here putting up an anti iHeart website.
I would be pitching it and talking about at four
times per show.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And they leave us alone.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Thank goodness, one thing about and I make a lot
of fun of I make a lot of fun of iHeart,
But God bless them, they do leave us alone. No
one tells us what to say one way or the
other at all. So that's a delight. So there's a
new hardline playbook and confronting employees activism.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And there's two reasons for that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
One is the political climate, because if you're arguing for
DEI and inclusion and LGBTQ plus rights in this political climate,
you're screwed as a company, as a university, I mean,
as a law firm, you're done.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
As companies are scared of the Whitehouse.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And should be because the power that Donald Trump has
legitimately no president is ever had his power ever. He
owns Congress. They are scared to death, and no matter
what he does, they're backing him up. He's going after
the judiciary and asking for the impeachment of judges, and
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of course he has the executive branch by law anyway,
so particularly if employees appear to cater to woke forces gone.
The other one has to do with a job market
that has gotten very tough for employees. White collar workers
have lost considerable leverage and you know what happens, They
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get fired.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We don't want employees that are engaged in politics.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
That's all. You came here to work.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
One professor at the University of Alberta said, the workers
didn't become more militant for fun. They became more militant
as a matter of policy and belief. That does not
comport well with the politics, with our ability to make money.
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Speaking on behalf of corporations, just leave us alone. Just
don't talk politics, and that is the straight way to go.
Look what happened to Target. That was all DEI and
all woke one of the companies that went in that
direction with a vengeance and then had to turn around
because of the new political climate go the other way
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and lost both sides and tanking like crazy. And I
know people who love Target that will not walk in
the door. That's their idea of protest. Oh, just man,
it's a new world. It's a new world.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So can you protest? Can you say something that's at
odds with this.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Gstration and the new political climate? Yes you can? And
how Let me let me tell you this. Let me
give you some advice as to how you can do
it with complete impunity. Get a radio show. That's what's
gonna save your ass. Oh right, Oh, a story.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I want to do. And I love this story because.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It involves Amy and Neil, who are disney fanatics. Okay,
let me start with a statistic. When Disneyland opened in
nineteen fifty five, it costs one dollar for adults to
get in, fifty cents for kids. One dollar in nineteen
fifty five is equivalent to twelve dollars today. Can you
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imagine getting into Disneyland for twelve dollars now? To be fair,
in nineteen fifty five, they didn't have these super duper rides,
and it was a very minimalist park relative to what
it is today. So it's not it's apples and oranges.
But here's what's going on. And I think this has
a lot to do with where society is going. For example,
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if you want to go to the Polynesian Village resort
at at Disney. This is at Disney World, the renovated
eighteen sixty three square foot King Kama Mahamahamma Kama Huma
Sweet at Disney's Polynesian Village.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It's probably King Kamama.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh oh, okay, So I was wrong, all right?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Oh no, you weren't wrong, okay. I was just helping
you with the pronunciation.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Thank you. Oh I mispronounced something.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Anyway. It's going for three thousand dollars a night, and
if you pay an ext one hundred and seventy nine
dollars you get just all of this sextra stuff, view
of the park's fireworks, and a price fixed meal at
the Michelin Star Victorian Alberts at the Grand Larridian.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Those meals started twelve hundred dollars for two people.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
So where was Disneyland Because it was Disneyland when this
all started. Of course, the philosophy of Walt Disney was
priced to welcome people across the entire income spectrum. The
motto of Disney It was everyone is a VIP, and
Walt Disney wanted to create a shared American culture by
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providing the same experience for every guest. So the family
that pulled up in a super expensive car stood in
the same lines, ate the same food, rode the same
rides as the family that arrived in an old, used car.
And back then, why what was going on? Well, we
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actually had a thriving, massive middle class, and that was
the focus of companies for services sales in this case Disney,
the middle class. The taxes were paid by the middle class.
That was the strength of America, the middle class. What's
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happened in the middle class, It's gone. We don't have
it anymore. It has so eroded in size, so eroded
in purchasing power, and the wealth of the top earners
have exploded that Today the most important market across the board,
by the way, is the affluent people that have money
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and a fair amount. And when you look at Disney,
a lot and so the experience we once shared at
Disney are very differentiated now increasingly it happens day by day.
And how is it differentiated by how much money we have?
How much money we are willing to part with at Disney?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And let's talk about why. First of all, just.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
The data, the internet, the internet, the algorithm, the smartphone
and the AI now are giving corporations tools to target
fast growing masses of who what's the fastest growth high
net worth Americans?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And it's far easier to target those people. They know
where we are.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Let's just use Disney for a moment, because if you
go to the store, they know when I'm buying SLAMMI
how often where I shop?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
The aisles I go to also costco.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
So they now these and let's go to Disney again.
These private institutions, particularly Disney, are focusing on making the
most money. And where do you make the most money? Now, Well,
you go to the privileged, You go to people that
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have money, and the prices are stunning because they have
figured out sort of knew it, and this has happened
over the years that they make a lot more money
on people who have a lot more money, leaving everyone
else sort of in the dirt. For example, business class
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seats is where airlines make most of their money, far
more than the cabins in the back.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Okay, talking about Disney, of course.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh before we go back to Disney, a quick word
about what's going on. A week from tomorrow, Neil is broadcasting.
I am joining him for the Fork Report at the
Wild Fork store.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I keep on selling restaurants Wow Fork Foods.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And Long Beach. If there one year anniversary, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Unbelievable food will be there for the whole broadcast and
there will be giveaways, There'll be samples. Zelman's will be
there and Neil and I are going to stuff our
faces as you will be able to enjoy some of
the food.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Listeners were thrilled last time.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So please come in. Calendar this one, calendar, this one.
I think you'll enjoy it. And that is a week
from Saturday, two to five pm, Wild Fork in Long Beach.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
All right back, all right back.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
We go to Disney and what's going on at Disney. Well,
if you got money, and this is this is the
world in general, if you have money, you live.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
It used to be that Disney was very egalitarian. There
was a huge middle class. Walt Disney wanted everybody to
have the same experience. Money, no money, you were treated
exactly the same. Boy that has changed. The middle class
gone the top earners, those people have exploded, and so Disney,
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with technology, is able to figure out where Americans go
and what they're willing to spend at Disney and Disney
is such an iconic brand. You know, people save years
to do a Disney vacation. That is one of the
highlights of their lives. So when did this all start.
In the nineteen nineties, it started getting a little expensive,
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not only to get in, but also to get in
the front of the line to eat. It was no
longer sort of the same quality food. The pandemic that
blew it and Disney gave up any pretense of being
a middle class institution.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Today, a Disney vacation literally is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
For the top twenty percent of American households, and maybe
the top ten percent. According to a computer scientist who's quote,
unofficial guidebooks and website turing plans give all kind of
advice how to deal with Disney. I love this in
a statement and by the way, he said that Disney
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positions itself is the all American vacation.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
True.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
The ironies that most Americans can't afford it true. Disney
set its goal is to make its experience available to
as many families as possible. No two experiences are the same,
which is why we provide a wide variety of tickets, dining,
and hotel options enhanced throughout the year with promotional offers.
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That is corporate speak for we are going to break you.
You are going to spend so much money on tickets,
you'll be eating.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Cat food for the rest of your life, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So remember the fast pass system that was free when
it started in nineteen ninety nine, and it allowed visitors
to skip the line. They agreed to wait and return
to the ride later on within a time window. Huh,
nothing is free any more. There is a book called
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Tier one Attractions.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's you know, it's a program you can buy. Well.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Tier one attractions are the top of the heap. Those
are the ones that everybody wants to go to.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
So if you go to.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
One Tier one attraction plus two lesser attractions front of
the line, you get in eighty bucks. Now, it used
to be fairly cheap, and at times Disney ticket prices
rose slower than inflation.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Not anymore so.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Michael Eisner, Disney's chief executive at the time, back in
the late nineties or two thousands, created a whole new
set of products for the affluent, fancier hotels. The cruise
line wonderful, I've been on it, very expensive, and he
never at that time allowed customers to pay to skip
the lines that was set in stone could not.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Skip the lines.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So Universal Studios in the early two thousands, guess what
they did. They established you can skip the lines if
you pay some more money. And we're talking about more money,
We're talking a lot more money. In the mid two thousands,
the number of affluent, rich people presented a profit source
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so big Disney could not ignore it. Well, here's the
stat in nineteen ninety two there were eighty eight thousand
households worth twenty million dollars or more. It's a lot
of money. But if you go forward ten years or
sixty six hundred and forty four thousand, and so the
people who could and would pay almost anything for a
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Disney vacation, that became a market, and a big market.
So in twenty twelve, the My Disney Experience app gave
guests an easy way to check waittime, showtimes, restaurant bookings,
a lot more. And that's where Disney gained a trove
of information where guests when, where they purchased, how much
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they spent. And it became so integrated that it is
now part and parcel not only Disney, not only the company,
but people use those and the pandemic was the final blow,
so Disney killed the free fast pass system started offering
ride reservations at fifteen dollars for each ride, where you
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can get to the front of the park or the
front of the line. And then over the next three years,
the line skipping options multiplied not only in number but
in price, and so these low weight.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Spots of the best rides.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I mean, you can go on the carousel, or you
can go on Peter Pan all day long and you're
not waiting.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
But man, are you paying?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I don't know about that Peter Pan one. It's it's
on average about forty five minute weights.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's insanity.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, it's consistently like that. I will tell you I
have a hot tip for people with children and food concerns.
You bring a twelve pack of Hawaiian rolls in there,
King's Hawaiian Roles. You get one turkey leg and you
break it up into multiple sandwiches. You can make almost
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a dozen sandwiches, little slider sandwiches for your kids there,
just by bringing that in and getting one turkey leg.
There are and I got that hot tip. Well, I
probably shouldn't say, but there are a lot of ways
to do it. Do single rider lines do There's all
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kinds of things that you can do to keep your
costs down at the parks.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, it only gets punitively expensive as opposed to prohibitively expensive.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Say that, but when you do it per activity, whether
you're going there, you're seeing theater, you're seeing animatronics, you're
going on rides, you're.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Having you get a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, You just got to go early, go at rope, drop,
enjoy the entirety of the day, get your money's worth,
all right, leaves of park hopping for maybe a different trip.
Just go focus on one park and you can do it.
Stay off campus. There's a lot of great hotels around
there that are cheaper and you could pull it off.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Okay, there, it's well, we give you this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
This is typical a California tech guy Sean Hannah Canahan.
But the Lightning Lane Premiere pass front of the line
at each ride. He was already seven thousand dollars in
for a four day trip with his daughter, and he said, hey,
another one hundred bucks to be at the front of
the line. Another nine hundred dollars to be at the
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front of the line.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Is no big deal.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
And there is a tip which I can't give you
anymore because lines because it's changed, and that they used
to be if you were handicapped, you used to be
at the front of the line, and there were so
many people that were handicapped. And my advice was there
was a walmart a mile away from Disneyland. You buy
one of those collapsible canes and you walk into the
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park using the collapsible cane. It's only like twelve dollars,
and you used to be limp a little bit and
you'd be at the front of the line.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Unfortunately, those days are.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Gone to other people like you because.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
If people like me.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Okay, how much you spend for your annual pass, Neil,
We don't.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Have the top tier one, so I don't know. Maybe
it's eight hundred dollars a year or something like that.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Okay, do you get at the front of the line anyplace?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, we don't mend to. If you your trip's enough,
you can get plenty there.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Are doing the other day. Yeah, we went to the
park the other day. Did not buy lightning lanes. And
I mean, if you use the app and use it correctly,
and like Neil said, plan your day we got on
all the rides we wanted to go to. It was
a bargain and I did just renew my pass and
I got the top tier and it's worth it for
as much.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
As I go?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Or is it twelve hundred?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
The top tier is seventeen fifty? Now, I think, okay,
But if you go to the park six times in
our year, you've paid for it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Well, Neil goes. I've seen Neil go three times a week.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Oh, Amy goes more than I do. But I will
tell you this. Another thing is a hot tip. If
it says thirteen minute weight, not fifteen but thirteen minute waight,
that means there's no weight. They just won't put zero
on there because people think the line that the ride
is broken.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay, So when they say one hundred and twenty minute,
wait two hours, No, that's.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
One hundred and twenty minutes. Actually, you people mark these
out and you get good at it. I bet you.
Amy's the same way. You could look at the line
and see if it's accurate or not. Because there's times
I look and I go no, that it is a
much shorter line than what they're saying on all.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Right, so you're telling me the trick that I used
to use with the collapsible cane. Coming in as a
handicapped person is still a good idea.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
No no, but there's plenty of things the line. The
cues are cooler than ever before, so waiting in line
and having a conversation, we play heads up, a little
digital game on the phone, where you where, where you're guessing.
We just there's tons of stuff to do.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, okay, we're done. You said you're ruining my story, right,
all right?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Coming up Foody Friday with Neil Savandra and a Costco
story of course.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
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