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Here it is a taco Tuesday, July twenty nine, Neil
Savedra has returned to the Wars. Now, there was a
shooting yesterday in New York that's getting certainly national coverage.
Usually shootings are simply reported as numbers. There was a
shooting in let's say Wyoming, one person killed, shooter has
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been killed also in a gunfight, or he's been arrested,
and then the story goes away. There is one that
happened yesterday, and it is well, there's a lot to this.
You wonder how stories get legs, and sometimes you have
no idea. One story happens, and a similar story gets
no press, and one does.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
This is a story that instantly got its legs. A
guy from Nevada, his name is Shane Devon Tomorra, drives
across the country to New York, who has the mental
health history.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is accused of he did.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He walked into a Manhattan building with a rifle and
in the lobby just open fire, killing four people.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Actually it was a little more complicated than that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So he goes into this business and this building on
Park Avenue right at the end of the business day,
armed with an M four rifle since his all type rifle,
opened fire in the lobby and then goes up the
elevator to the thirty third floor before he eventually killed
himself and up on the thirty third floor where the
offices of the NFL. Now we know on the record,
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he's got a documented mental health history, that's according to
New York Police Commissioner. And he has a Las Vegas address,
a BMW. He got out of the BNW in Manhattan
double parked, and when they arrested him, actually after he
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killed himself, there's the car double parked and his name
is on the registration with a Nevada license and Nevada
address and his chest blown open. And that is a
story in of itself. Who shoots himself in the chest
when they're committing suicide, Usually they blow their brains out.
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But Amy, go ahead, As Amy pointed out, can't hear
you any.
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He's saying that he had grievances with the NFL and
talked about having a CTE right, which is that brain
disease that can't be diagnosed until after you died, And
apparently said in a suicide note that he wanted his
brain to be studied.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And yes, his mental illness he blamed on the CTE
got as a football player.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And there is a story right there.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Inside the car there was a rifle case with rounds
of ammunition and a loaded revolver and medication that was
prescribed and the suicide note. So he leaves Colorado on Saturday,
then Nebraska, then Iowa on Sunday, New Jersey yesterday, and
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the end of your he just parks double parks and
then goes into the building and shoots it up. And
as Amy just said, the interesting part of this, obviously
not interesting for the families of those that were killed,
is he believed and it may be the case that
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his illness may be linked to playing football, and that's
why he went into that office building, into the NFL offices,
and I think he shot one person there.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And he shoots himself in the chest. As Amy said, yes,
And just.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
To clarify, he didn't make it into the NFL offices,
oh okay, But he was trying to get to the
NFL offices apparently, but went into the wrong bank of elevators.
So you know how some elevators don't stop at every floor.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Then let me ask this.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said, one of our employees was
seriously injured in the attack. So was the employee down
in the lobby, And so there's a yeah, I don't know,
why would an NFL employee be attacked if you well,
I mean, we don't know where he was now.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Timorro attended high school here.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
In southern California, Chatsworth High Grenada Hills Charter School, and
was a hell of a football player.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He made All Conference.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He was Everybody who played with him said he was
the nicest guy in the world or utterly shocked that
he would do this. His coach said that he was
a quiet kid, will mannered, very coachable. Whatever needed to
be done, he would do as I said. He was
All Conference. In twenty fifteen in La Times article, he
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was actually mentioned by the coach just ahead of his
senior year, and he said the coach said Tomorrow was
one of the few players he was looking for.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Big things from.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And so this is very strange, and obviously we're goan
to know if he has CTE because he killed himself
in a manner that his brain could be studied.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Also, he is kids who are this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Good immediately set themselves up to go to college and
they're going to play in college.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And the reality is not many do.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Although clearly with his go level he would have gone
and played college ball.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But it's a very strange story and they're going to
investigate it. And maybe he does have CTE, which just
adds more information and just adds more to the argument
that CTE is caused by football. He was running back,
so he was pounded a bunch of times, not as
much as his alignment would be, but still, Okay, famine
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is truly unfolding in Gaza. And what makes this story
not only horrific, I mean, this is a genuine humanitarian
catastrophe that's going on. Is for the first time and
I haven't heard this before on this level, Nittanyahu straight
out says that no one is starving in Gaza, that
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there is no famine in in Gaza. Matter of fact,
there are a couple of cabinet members of his cabinet.
This is a war cabinet, and these are ultra conservative
members who get one of a just wants Israel to
be Israel with all of the Palestinian land or the
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occupied territories, the West Bank Gaza and literally get rid
of every Palestinian there. Kill them, no, but export them,
yeah yeah, throw them out of the country, thank you,
and you normally it's fun. It astounds me for a
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couple of reasons. First of all, this is Israel that
came out of the ashes of the Holocaust. And when
I say ashes, I mean that because so many, so
many millions of Jews six million were killed, and most
of them became ashes after being gassed, and it burns
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in the crematoriums, including my grandparents, by the way, who
perished in the Holocaust, and that entire side of my
dad's family. And so to argue that this is not
famine is for me beyond comprehension. And then they are
members of the cabinet who have called this fake news
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and this is manufactured. And when you look at the
videos of these kids starving to death, I mean they're there.
I mean, you cannot argue. These kids are literally their
arms are as thin as pencils and you can see
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their ribs extended, I mean, and they're crying, and you
can crying because they're starving to death and go come on, really,
I mean, this makes absolutely no sense. And Israel straight
out not only is lying Atanya who is lying about that,
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also lying about the fact that Israel is allowing humanitarian
aid in Well, yeah, okay, one truck for every fifty
that should be let in humanitarian organizations around the world
who have the food they can actually feed. Everybody in
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Gaza are stuck at the borders in Egypt can't get
through because Israel has shut down those borders can't get in.
It's the Philadelphia corridors what they're calling it. And it
is well, as I said, mass starvation. They just Israel
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just opened up the only water filtration plant, allowed it
to go back online. And so why is Israel doing this? Well,
Israel's accused of number one genocide, which, by the way,
you have to be very careful when using the word genocide.
As I said earlier, this is not genocide. Palestinians are
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not being killed because they are Palestinians. They are being
killed because of the war on Hamas. Now it turns
out Israel doesn't care very much obviously as to how
many Palestinians are killed.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Although the argument is are going after.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Hamas Hamas is embedding itself in the civilian population and
that's just the cost of doing business. In fighting a
terrorist organization, you can argue that genocide is the killing
of people because they are those people.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Why were the Jews killed simply because they are Jews.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Why were the Armenians killed by the Turks simply because
they are Armenian. Why are the Wigers being literally destroyed
or becoming non existent in China simply because they are
Wigers no other reason. That's genocide. That's not going on.
But starvation is going on. And for a people who
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prided themselves as humanitarian people.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That are there too.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, there is a phrase in Judaism that says, if
you save one life, you save the world. That is
the philosophy of Judaism. And look what's going on with
this starvation. Well, I mean, Israel is about to be
known as a para nation. It's going to be put
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on the same level as North Korea, where it's just
going to be regarded going from a legitimate, legitimate country
that is our ally, that is the one democratic country.
There's beacon of democracy in the Middle East. That's it
just Israel right into the same level as North Korea,
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except North Korea is not star out South Korea, not
that it could.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And that's the horror of this.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So bowing to public pressure I mean international pressure, I
mean allies of Israel saying this has got to stop.
What the Isaiaeli government is doing is for ten days now,
I believe it is for ten days. They are opening
up the borders for ten hours a day and not attacking.
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They're saying we will pull out of attacking Palestinian targets
for ten hours a day, allowing humanitarian aid to come in.
And up to this point we don't know how much
is coming in. It just started to come in. There
have been air drops, but those are a drop in
the bucket. Israel stops trucks from coming in for fear
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of weapons coming in or for fear and statements.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Along the lines that Hamas is co.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Opting the food, is stealing the food and using it
as a weapon of war. No evidence that that is
going on on any large scale, none, even though Israel
claims that is happening but has not produced any evidence.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And up to this point.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We have heard that Gaza is on the brink of starvation,
just the brink.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well that line has been crossed. Critical mass has arrived.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
People are starving to death, especially children, because they are
the most vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
And speaking as.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
A Jew who has been to Israel have very dear
friends in Israel. I am utterly ashamed and mortified that
Israel is doing what it's doing. Frankly, I'm just blown
away by it. Now we can explain it politically. You've
got the ultra nationalists who are basically and they are
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part of the government. Why because Ntayahu wants to stay
in government. He wants to keep as Prime minister, and
the only way he can do it is to add
various factions political groups to his coalition. There's no way
that any prime minister or any party can stay in
party without without getting others, without cobbling together other groups.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And the only way Natayaho.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Can stay in power is to cobble these uh these
ultranationalist groups. And the way these groups, by the way,
join the government is they negotiate. We want the defense ministry,
we want the Housing ministry, we want the Interior ministry,
and they they become those ministers. The choice is not
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Nittayahu as to who is the cabinet member. It's a
political negotiation. It's a very different system. Okay. The Epstein
fiasco just keeps on going and going and going, and
it's not going away. And why is this because the
Epstein files, That Epstein list has been fodder for both
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Trump and the entire MAGA world because of the conspiracy theories.
Who put that together? Biden put that together. The Biden
FBI has that list and is not releasing it. Okay,
now it's the Trump folks that have that list, and
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the MAGA supporters are saying, okay, now we have them,
now we have them, let's see that list. And Pam
Bondi said that list is on my desk. I'm looking
at that file. I'll look at it later on today.
And then the government comes out and says, you know,
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it doesn't exist. That's not true. And the argument is
why everybody is so excited is because Bondi, who at
this point I don't know if she's neither or not
told Trump that his name is on that list. Multiple times.
We're talking about the list that doesn't exist. His name
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is on it. Just ask Pam Bondy, the head of
the DOJ. And so even the MAGA supporters are going, wait,
a minute. We're being gaslighted here. How can you do that?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And I don't understand it at all.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Now, Donald Trump said he was close to Epstein way
back when, and when he found out he was arrested
the first time, he cut all ties.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And even assuming that he was close to Epstein, which
I believe he was, did he.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Know that there were fourteen year olds?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
There were plenty of people that Epstein dealt with, high
end people who socialized with him, went on his private
jet to his island. Who I'm assuming he had no
idea I could It couldn't be common knowledge that he
was dealing with underage girls. Now everybody knew that he
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was a womanizer. Everybody knew that Donald Trump was a womanizer.
And they used to hang out together. They used to
stoop women together, not in the same room or at
the same time physically. But Epstein's brother talked about how
close that Donald Trump was to Epstein and Epstein and saying, hey,
they were both cut up from the cut from the
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same cloth. They both liked screwing younger women. Look at
Donald Trump's marriages and their thing or Donald Trump's thing
is models. That is his background. He likes models, well,
models are in their twenties. This is just not his bag.
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Do I believe for a moment that Donald Trump is
caught up with the Epstein debacle.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I do not do. I think he was close to Epstein,
a lot closer than he says. You bet you do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I believe his name appears on this quote list. And
I don't know if it's a list per se. Here's
a list of all the people. It's Epstein's records of
who he hung out with. And Bill Clinton's on that list,
and you've got a bunch of other people.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But he is.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
He is spinning, I mean spinning, and this is not
going away now. His best buddy is Acolyte, his best
bitch in Congress, the Speaker of the House. One day
prior to the vote that was going to take place
to make that list public, what he did he sent
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everybody home early, one day early so the vote couldn't
take place, saying that, you know, the White House is
already dealing with this, we just have to wait. The
White House is investigating, so we don't need this vote.
And he send everybody back early, so of course, Mike
Johnson does everything the president asks, and the President thinks
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it is.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Going to go away, and he is wrong. It is
not going to go away.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Even in light of some huge advances, some huge wins
for the president, one of them being, of course, the
trade war that he is winning the Terra for Man.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
He's way ahead.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Of the Gabe on that one, which we've talked about,
and will and one of his biggest supporters, Joe Rogan,
who has probably the number one podcast of the country,
fervent fervent Trump supporter, has gone the other way and said,
on this issue, we have to know.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I want to tell you about a criminal enterprise. It
is a cartel, if you will, and it's off of
Bali and it is a temple on a cliff side,
and there are some sophisticated scam operations going on.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Every week.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Dozens of phones and wallets and other valuables are stolen
in broad daylight and straight out exchange is extortion. They
are negotiated with returning the items for goods that they
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want and it is open. It happens all the time
and you can't stop it. And you want to know why,
because these thieves are long tailed macaque monkeys. That's who
they are. Jonathan Ham, a tourist from London whose sunglasses
were stolen, said, these monkeys have taken over the temple.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
They're running this scam.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
A monkey waits for a chance to steal from tourists
and then boom it happens. So this temple has traditional
fire dance shows and panoramic views at sunset. It's aptly
gorgeous and what primate researchers have found. By the way,
these are being studied big time to primate researchers because
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this is on a level that is extraordinary. They steal
belongings to use as currency to trade with humans for food,
and they can distinguish between objects that have high value smartphones,
prescription glasses, wallets from those that don't have high value hats,
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flip flops, hair clips. Couldn't care less, and they barter accordingly.
They know the value of this stuff and they barter
based on the value. The researchers wrote in a twenty
twenty one academic paper, the monkeys have unprecedented economic decision
making processes. Jonathan Ham arrives at the temple with his wife,
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his tour guide hands him a stick, saying you're going
to need it to fend off the monkeys. Ham says,
I thought he was giving me a stick because I'm
old or too old. He's in his sixties. Well the
stick didn't help. A monkey jumps on his back, grabs
sunglasses off his face and vanishes. Now he sees the
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monkey in a tree playing with the sunglasses. A different
tour guide hands them some oreos and say try these.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
So he waves the oreos.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
In front of the monkey, who jumps down, grabs the
oreos and tosses the sunglasses to the ground.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
It worked, he said, I.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Didn't expect the monkeys would be operating like a gang
taking everything. Now, a lot of cases are more complicated
than that, and they require the help of the monkey
handlers who actually negotiate with these monkeys. They offer fruits, bananas, mangoes,
mangestine in exchange for the stolen items, and in rare
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cases they actually use raw chicken eggs, highly coveted by
the monkeys.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They love those.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So there's a twenty two year A fifty two year
old kittut Ariano has been working for the temple as
a monkey handler for two decades. And says the animals
deal a dozen of items a week, including five to
ten smartphones a day. They know how valuable smartphones are.
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So one of the victims, a tourist, Taylor Utley from Louisville,
visited the.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Temple last year. So she's walking along on a cliff.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
A monkey grabs the cell phone out of her hand
and jumps onto a ledge of a barrier separating the
walkway from the edge of the cliff. She's searching her
bag for anything that could catch the monkey's eye, wasn't
interested in her scarf, and now it starts to scurry.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Down the hill.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And then a handler tosses the monkey a bag of fruit.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The monkey holds onto the phone. The handler gives.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
It another bag of fruit, then another bag of fruit,
then another bag of fruit, and the monkey couldn't hold
onto all the fruit and the phone, so it dropped
the phone. Now there are a bunch of theories of
how this all happened. Arianna, the monkey handler.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Said these thefts pre day terse.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
They used to steal jewelry from people who came for
religious ceremonies. Now they steal sunglasses and smartphones. And the
temple has tried all kinds of methods to curb what
is going on, different feeding schedules, three to six times
a day. They feed them different foods at regular feedings.
But it doesn't matter because also the monkeys are known
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to steal just for fun. Not only do they steal
for food, they steal for fun.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
One of these victims said, I picture the monkey chucking
my phone into the ocean, and I tried not to cry.
So a passerby fetches a handler who climb climbs over
the barrier in search of the robber. More than an
hour of hide and seek, the handler would spot the monkey,
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only to watch it scurry away. The handler calls for
a backup. The backup calls for a backup. The monkey
scales a tree, leaps to another tree, jumps back onto
the side of the cliff, disappears, and now the thief
reappears and three handlers surround it. Don't know how they
did it, but I got my phone back and part
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of the glass cover it, the blast covering glass covering
was missing, and when I looked through the phone later,
the monkey had taken some photos and they're in this article.
There is the picture the selfie that the monkey took. Wow,
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that's impressive. And they can't arrest those guys because they
can't find lawyers to represent them, because you need due
process and the defendant has to understand what's going on.
And the monkeys, who clearly do because they're smarter than
anybody else. All they do is feign ignorance and they
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get away with it. Actually, that's not true, that part
I'm just making up.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Have you ever had one, not necessarily this particular kind,
but I remember in India in Agra there was a
bunch of them and they would take stuff from kids
all the time, ice cream, sodas, Yeah, you're a rabbit,
and the kids would be like what the hell? They
were super aggressive.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
There is a temple I believe in Kyoto, Japan, where
they have wild deer roaming around and people feed the
deer and they'll actually go into pockets for food and
if you don't have food, they want to remind you
that you haven't been fed, and they will take their
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snouts and jam you like two rams fighting. I mean,
just throw you to the ground, these docile, nice deer.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
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