April 21, 2025 • 22 mins
(April 21,2025)
Pope Francis, beloved for his humility and compassion, dies at 88. The Papal Conclave: How a new Pope is elected.. Musk’s team is building a system to sell ‘gold card’ immigrant Visas
Pope Francis, beloved for his humility and compassion, dies at 88. The Papal Conclave: How a new Pope is elected.. Musk’s team is building a system to sell ‘gold card’ immigrant Visas
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listen Saints KPI AM six forty the Bill handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
F Okay, we move on to some rather sad news.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And that is a morning we woke up or I
woke up, and I'm assuming you're waking up with the
fact that Pope frances has died eighty eight years old
and was actually in I guess, relatively good health compared
to what's happened over the last few months, as he
was deteriorating and then he turned around and got better,
and yesterday, right after seeing JD Vance, he ended up dying.
(00:37):
And of course speculation instantly abounds is how how much
did Jdvance.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Have to do with the Pope's death?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And at this point we have absolutely no evidence that
JD fans did not cause.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The death of the pope. This is just you, Bill,
It is one.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Me starting a rumor, but I want the rumor to
really go crazy on this, all right, And it's got
the point where even Amy reported this morning that all
of the world leaders who are scheduled to meet with
JD Vans have canceled their meetings for fear this might
happen to them.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Amy did not report that this morning. I wish that
Amy had reported that.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, so a little bit about Francis, and then I'm
going to get into now what happens now. As you know,
I'm not a huge fan of organized religion of any
kind under any circumstances. But when we go back into history,
millennia and rules and regulations, the historical aspects of this
a pope dying, of pope being re elected, how popes
(01:41):
came into being fascinating stuff, and I'm going to share.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That with you.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
First we start with Pope Francis and what he was
known for, known for compassion, humility. Given the reputation of
changing things, he really didn't. He still mandated and stayed
with the church's conservative views as to abortion, LGBTQ marriages,
(02:08):
gay marriages, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
He did say that gay people were allowed to take communion,
for example. That he changed.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He didn't say they were sinners that had to be ostracized.
He took a much more compassionate view towards those issues.
And he did say the Church is spending too much
time on this abortion business and LGBTQ rights. We have
other things to worry about. He was i won't say
(02:37):
a radical, but he did handle the papacy, the papacy
very differently. He wouldn't live in the papal apartments, which
are just ridiculously ornate. He lived in basically a guesthouse,
in a dorm room where the cardinals stay. It was
built for that, but is used as a guest house
for visiting clergy that come to the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And he just lived there and he ate in the cafeteria.
I mean this.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And he wouldn't wear the big you know, the big vestments,
you know, the ornate ones.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Very simple man.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And this happened just from the time he was a priest,
when he was a cardinal and archbishop of Buenos Aires.
He lived in his own apartment, the one he's had
for years and years. He drove a used car given
to him by a friend. He ate very simply. He
(03:32):
took the bus to work. Now, when's the last time
a cardinal who is an archbishop takes the bus to work?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So a very simple man.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But the bottom line, did he change anything dramatically, No,
he just took an approach. The last pope to actually
try to change things dramatically, it was Pope John the
twenty third back in the sixties, and he only lasted
four years, and he was so radical, called Vatican two
and was literally going to change the way the Church
(04:04):
approached everything. And when he died he had so frightened
the courier, and that is the bureaucracy, the polit bureau,
if you will, of the church. The few cardinals in
the upper reaches of the bureaucracy, that they went conservative
all the way to the point where Benedictus, Pope Benedict
(04:27):
the sixteenth, who resigned first time in history of pope
resigned or in six hundred years, and who died a
couple of years ago, he was probably the most conservative
pope in a very long time. He believed in the
church being very conservative and holding on to its values
very strictly, and not being at all expansive. In his view,
(04:49):
Francis went the other way. So he's given a lot
of credit, and rightly so. But I think we keep
the bottom line, the church has not really changed. Francis
was a more compassionate, had far more humility, was far
more inclusive. His call was for a poor church, spend
(05:12):
the church's money to help those in need. Conservatives liked
the trappings of the church. He did not like them,
nailed on President Trump for mass deportations. Matter of fact,
that is the conversation that was had by JD Vance
(05:33):
and the Pope the very morning that jd Vance killed him. Okay,
I'm telling you, I'm not letting this one go. I
Am not letting this go. This is just too great
an opportunity to start a rumor. Okay, tell you what,
when we come back, I have to give it up
(05:54):
at some point, don't I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Can I do this.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Every break coming in, you know, coming in and out
of every break for this show.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Knowing you, I bet you can. Uh yeah, but I
probably won't.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
All right, Here's what happens, and this is one of
the most interesting parts, and this I love about the
Catholic religion is how a new pope is elected. And
it is the conclave. And that name comes from the
Latin kumklave, meaning the key locking up the cardinals inside
the Sistine Champel chapel.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So we're going to.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
See two hundred and twenty cardinals from more than seven
seventy countries coming together to elect a new pope. There's
nine days of official morning and they're all going to
come together. Anyone over the age of eighty is excluded
from voting. So there are one hundred and twenty cardinal electors,
two thirds of which have been chosen by Francis in
(06:49):
the last ten years. So is it going to is
his view going to continue on with someone new of
sort of his ilk, We don't know at this point.
So once the cardinals are assembled in Rome two three
weeks after the death, what they do is they go
into the Sistine Chapel to begin their deliberations. I don't
(07:11):
know if you've seen television show or movie. Conclave big
long tables almost like big long dining tables, almost like
a Hogwarts dining table, where the cardinals all meet, and
then they vote, and it's on.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
A paper ballot.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's a secret ballot, and they put a pope's nate
where they put a cardinal's aim. By the way, anybody
can be pope. Anybody who's any baptized male can be pope.
You don't have to be even a priest. But it's
always a cardinal. And they swear an oath of absolute secrecy,
no contact with the outside world for the duration, no phones,
(07:49):
no newspapers, TV letters, messages, the chapel swept for listening devices.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Every day they sleep and eat in a.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Hostel built just for this near the Sistine Chapel, and
this is where Pope Francis has lived since he became pope,
in a very spartan dormitory setting and votes taken each
day morning and afternoon. Candidate needs two thirds to win,
unless after thirty ballots there is no winner, then it
(08:23):
goes to a simple majority. The longest papal conclave in
recent history was nineteen twenty two five days. Now, why
the locking up? How come it has to be all
done in secrecy. Well, because this goes back to the
(08:43):
thirteenth century, in the twelve hundreds, where there was a
lot of dissension who was pope who was not. It
was just a lot of political dissension. And the papacy,
by the way, has been very political. You could buy
your way into the papacy. The mediciese did that in
the fifteen hundreds, sixteen hundreds bought their way in and
you had popes that were thirteen years old. I mean,
(09:06):
it was crazy. So what happened in the twelve hundreds
is there was a conclave. Well, there was a group
of cardinals that came together to elect a new pope,
and they sat around for three years they could not
elect a new pope. Finally, okay, you got Gregory who
became pope, and he set up the new rules, and
(09:26):
the rules became.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Stricter and stricter. Lock you up. The key is locked up.
The key is.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
There's a whole ceremony about the doors of the Sistine
Chapel being locked. Conclave, the conclave, and the cardinals are inside.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
The Cystine Chapel, and they think they just sit around.
They don't. They've got a group of nuns.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That are there that feed these guys some pretty nice
food and they can walk around. And the fun part
is the politicking at the end of which God has
told the cardinals who is going to be in the
next pope. The phone line is connected between the new
pope and God. It's a direct line. Nobody interferes with
(10:13):
that until that happens. It's just a regular cardinal and
they are scrambling.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's like choosing a cabinet. It's who If you.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Vote for me, what's like any elected official? You vote
for me, Here's what I'll give you. In American politics,
I'm gonna bring a new bridge, I'm going to bring
a new factory.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Get me elected. That's what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You can have secretary of State, that's the nuncio, you
could be in charge of the Vatican Bank.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Just vote for me.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It literally is that way. Now occasionally it's their compromise candidates.
That's happened more often than not, every once in a while,
and I think in this case it was Francis. You
have a guy who is truly humble, is truly just compassionate,
does not want to be pope, is elected, and then
(11:08):
once he's chosen as pope, and they don't know, and
the pope is named, and then the black and the
white smoke, Oh man, that is terrific.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That tells the world that we don't or have a
new pope.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So there they go. Twice a day. The ballots are
burned when there is a new pope, when there is
no pope elected, and it's black smoke. It used to
be the way they burned it. Now it's chemicals that
are put into the fire. And when it's white smoke,
that means the new pope is elected, and the whole
(11:42):
world goes nuts, and there's hundreds of thousands of people
in Saint Peters Square, and the place just rrupts like crazy,
and out comes the new Pope. And he goes up
on the balcony and he puts on the vestments, of
which they have three different sizes for small, medium, and
large popes, and puts on the vestments and chooses his name.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Right there. Now do they think about it before? Who
the hell knows.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But sometimes you don't know, because once someone is elected,
I mean, it happens right there.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You're elected, you step.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Out in the balcony and here you are, You're the
new pope. Quickly choose a name. Fred No, no, no,
you can't be Fred. Bobby, No, no, we don't have Bobby's. No,
that doesn't work. John, Okay, francis not bad, Francis of Sissy, Sure, Clement,
(12:45):
that works.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Billy, Bob, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So we're gonna see who is the new pope, and
we're gonna know in the next month. And now the ceremony,
and it is very ceremonial, starts the history of conclave begins.
All right, you know, I want to continue on, I know,
and we were going to do the gold card. Maybe
we do that the next segment. But I'm watching the
(13:14):
news and this happens to be Fox News, and the
workers are already putting the chimney on the top of
the Cystine Chapel where the white and the black smoke
is going to go up, telling the world there is
no elected pope yet votes are taken twice a day,
and that's the black smoke and then the white smoke,
(13:36):
which tells the world that there is a newly elected
pope and cardinals are on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Their way from all over the world.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
They will be locked up in the Sistine Chapel and
the voting will take place. Now, there is ceremony in
history throughout this that is extraordinary. The carmel aingo, who
is in charge of putting the election together and handling
(14:04):
all of not only the particulars, but the ceremony around
electing a pope and locking the door of the Sistine Chapel,
happens to be an irishman, Kevin Ferrell. And traditionally, and
again this goes back historically, the carme Lingo takes a
silver hammer and taps the pope's forehead three times to
(14:29):
see if he's alive. And at the end of the
three taps, turns to those in the room, and the
Association's cardinals are specifically chosen to be there. He says
in Latin, and I'm going to loosely translated.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yep, this guy is dead. He is a carcass well
not quite but close.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Determines that he is dead, and then traditionally, although that
hasn't happened, the papal ring is taken off the Pope's
finger and then hit with a hammer and destroyed it
and is destroyed. It is an extraordinary amount of history
going back millennia, and one of the things the papal investments.
(15:19):
Just a quick aside, this is kind of fun. The
same company or the same group of tailors have created
the papal vestments and those slippers that the pope wears,
and you'll see these really ornate slippers. It's the same
group of tailors that have been doing this, a family
tailoring organization or company for the last three hundred years.
(15:44):
And they pride themselves on somehow figuring out the size
of the Pope's feet, and I guess they have many
of them. I think it's like the green jacket for
the masters, where it always fits you ever notice that
the green jacket always fits well, the Pope's garments always fits.
(16:07):
And he comes out and having just been elected, we
have a pope is announced for the white smoke. We
have a pope and he is Once he is elected pope,
he comes out on the balcony and calls himself charge
tells the world what his name is, that he is selected.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It's never his real name, and the you know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
The reason was the reason that they chose a name,
and they used to be the cardinal and there was
a Cardinal Cicola that was elected pope, and when it
turned out that he was going to be known as
Pope Sicola, it just didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's actually funny.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It was a surprise, yes, especially since Pepsi is not
sold in Italy.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's only a coke, so no one knew what the
hell was going on. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, now let's move over to what is going on domestically,
and that is how do you get a green card?
You could actually buy your way into getting a green card.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's been around for a long time.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
If you came in and spent a million dollars on
a business, and there is different rules depending on where
you go in the kind of business, and you hired
X number of people, you actually got a green card. Well,
the president actually this is Elon Musk and with Doge,
he has been working with employees from the State Department
(17:46):
Homeland Security, Immigration Citizenship and Immigration Services to create a
new website and an application process for visas. And they
cost five million dollars. You too can get a green
card and all you do is come up with five
million dollars. So for anybody you know what the border
(18:08):
trying to get across and apply, because now it's impossible
for anybody south of the border to claim asylum to
come in the United States, if they can come up
with five million bucks, they will be able to buy
a green card. With a gold card. Now, I don't
know if you've seen the gold card itself. I think
(18:29):
we put it up Neil. It's on my Instagram page
at Bill hansles Show Media Okay, yeah, at Bill handle
Show and you will see the gold card. And the
gold card is held up by President Trump and it
was on Air Force one. He held it up in
front of the press on Air Force one. And it
(18:53):
is a card with his picture on it. Yep, and
then I think called the Trump card. Yeah, it's called
the Trump card. Uh, it's kind of it's kind of
interesting to say the least. I mean, you know, talk
about self aggrandizement. It's uh, it's by the way, it's
(19:15):
no longer the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of America.
You know that, don't you. It's now the Gulf of Trump.
And we are going on our way to renaming everything
we do and have and live in and with we'll
have his name on it. You stay at Trump hotels,
(19:36):
you buy into Trump condos, and of course you know
all manner things. You buy Trump watches.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
There used to be the oh you go to Trump University.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Of course they had to settle that one because they
were about to be nailed in court. So Lutnick, who
is the Commerce Secretary, sent on a podcast last month
he had sold a thousand of these yesterday, but a
person close to the project said no money.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And Lutnick said.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So, if you have a Gold Card, which used to
be a Green card, you're a permanent resident of America.
And he said most holders would not go on to
become US citizens. They have a right to become American
and they can stay as long as they're good people
and they're vetted and they can't break the law. And
the software is being prepared right now by the Musk folks.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Now those is.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Doing two things now, one cutting expenses by firing about
hundreds of thousands of people as well as shutting down
entire departments and government read the Department of Education, USAID
and a lot of other departments, gutting them. But at
the same time also bringing in revenue. So it's a
(20:57):
double hit. If you cut expenses and bring in revenue. Well,
if you do that.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
In business, you do that individually, you're better off. You're
far better off. And that's exactly the philosophy here.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You cut expenses as employment and getting rid of departments,
and you increase revenue. In this case, selling these gold
cards with the picture of Donald Trump, and they're really
not gold cards.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
They are Trump cards.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And if you look at them, and they're gold, and
it's just it's wild. His signature on it, and I
think the back it has the United States of America
and a seal and it's laminated. It has the Statue
of Liberty a bald eagle, and it is absolutely delicious.
(21:47):
I mean it does not get better than this. I
don't care which side of the political spectrum you are.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't care if you are a.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Conservative or a liberal, or an ultraliberal, or a fundamental
conservative or a moderate. You have to admit this administration
is insanely entertaining with a capital E. I mean, this
is P. T. Barnum at his best. KFI AM six
(22:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
F Okay, we move on to some rather sad news.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And that is a morning we woke up or I
woke up, and I'm assuming you're waking up with the
fact that Pope frances has died eighty eight years old
and was actually in I guess, relatively good health compared
to what's happened over the last few months, as he
was deteriorating and then he turned around and got better,
and yesterday, right after seeing JD Vance, he ended up dying.
(00:37):
And of course speculation instantly abounds is how how much
did Jdvance.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Have to do with the Pope's death?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And at this point we have absolutely no evidence that
JD fans did not cause.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The death of the pope. This is just you, Bill,
It is one.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Me starting a rumor, but I want the rumor to
really go crazy on this, all right, And it's got
the point where even Amy reported this morning that all
of the world leaders who are scheduled to meet with
JD Vans have canceled their meetings for fear this might
happen to them.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Amy did not report that this morning. I wish that
Amy had reported that.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, so a little bit about Francis, and then I'm
going to get into now what happens now. As you know,
I'm not a huge fan of organized religion of any
kind under any circumstances. But when we go back into history,
millennia and rules and regulations, the historical aspects of this
a pope dying, of pope being re elected, how popes
(01:41):
came into being fascinating stuff, and I'm going to share.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That with you.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
First we start with Pope Francis and what he was
known for, known for compassion, humility. Given the reputation of
changing things, he really didn't. He still mandated and stayed
with the church's conservative views as to abortion, LGBTQ marriages,
(02:08):
gay marriages, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
He did say that gay people were allowed to take communion,
for example. That he changed.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He didn't say they were sinners that had to be ostracized.
He took a much more compassionate view towards those issues.
And he did say the Church is spending too much
time on this abortion business and LGBTQ rights. We have
other things to worry about. He was i won't say
(02:37):
a radical, but he did handle the papacy, the papacy
very differently. He wouldn't live in the papal apartments, which
are just ridiculously ornate. He lived in basically a guesthouse,
in a dorm room where the cardinals stay. It was
built for that, but is used as a guest house
for visiting clergy that come to the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And he just lived there and he ate in the cafeteria.
I mean this.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And he wouldn't wear the big you know, the big vestments,
you know, the ornate ones.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Very simple man.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And this happened just from the time he was a priest,
when he was a cardinal and archbishop of Buenos Aires.
He lived in his own apartment, the one he's had
for years and years. He drove a used car given
to him by a friend. He ate very simply. He
(03:32):
took the bus to work. Now, when's the last time
a cardinal who is an archbishop takes the bus to work?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So a very simple man.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But the bottom line, did he change anything dramatically, No,
he just took an approach. The last pope to actually
try to change things dramatically, it was Pope John the
twenty third back in the sixties, and he only lasted
four years, and he was so radical, called Vatican two
and was literally going to change the way the Church
(04:04):
approached everything. And when he died he had so frightened
the courier, and that is the bureaucracy, the polit bureau,
if you will, of the church. The few cardinals in
the upper reaches of the bureaucracy, that they went conservative
all the way to the point where Benedictus, Pope Benedict
(04:27):
the sixteenth, who resigned first time in history of pope
resigned or in six hundred years, and who died a
couple of years ago, he was probably the most conservative
pope in a very long time. He believed in the
church being very conservative and holding on to its values
very strictly, and not being at all expansive. In his view,
(04:49):
Francis went the other way. So he's given a lot
of credit, and rightly so. But I think we keep
the bottom line, the church has not really changed. Francis
was a more compassionate, had far more humility, was far
more inclusive. His call was for a poor church, spend
(05:12):
the church's money to help those in need. Conservatives liked
the trappings of the church. He did not like them,
nailed on President Trump for mass deportations. Matter of fact,
that is the conversation that was had by JD Vance
(05:33):
and the Pope the very morning that jd Vance killed him. Okay,
I'm telling you, I'm not letting this one go. I
Am not letting this go. This is just too great
an opportunity to start a rumor. Okay, tell you what,
when we come back, I have to give it up
(05:54):
at some point, don't I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Can I do this.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Every break coming in, you know, coming in and out
of every break for this show.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Knowing you, I bet you can. Uh yeah, but I
probably won't.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
All right, Here's what happens, and this is one of
the most interesting parts, and this I love about the
Catholic religion is how a new pope is elected. And
it is the conclave. And that name comes from the
Latin kumklave, meaning the key locking up the cardinals inside
the Sistine Champel chapel.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So we're going to.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
See two hundred and twenty cardinals from more than seven
seventy countries coming together to elect a new pope. There's
nine days of official morning and they're all going to
come together. Anyone over the age of eighty is excluded
from voting. So there are one hundred and twenty cardinal electors,
two thirds of which have been chosen by Francis in
(06:49):
the last ten years. So is it going to is
his view going to continue on with someone new of
sort of his ilk, We don't know at this point.
So once the cardinals are assembled in Rome two three
weeks after the death, what they do is they go
into the Sistine Chapel to begin their deliberations. I don't
(07:11):
know if you've seen television show or movie. Conclave big
long tables almost like big long dining tables, almost like
a Hogwarts dining table, where the cardinals all meet, and
then they vote, and it's on.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
A paper ballot.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's a secret ballot, and they put a pope's nate
where they put a cardinal's aim. By the way, anybody
can be pope. Anybody who's any baptized male can be pope.
You don't have to be even a priest. But it's
always a cardinal. And they swear an oath of absolute secrecy,
no contact with the outside world for the duration, no phones,
(07:49):
no newspapers, TV letters, messages, the chapel swept for listening devices.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Every day they sleep and eat in a.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Hostel built just for this near the Sistine Chapel, and
this is where Pope Francis has lived since he became pope,
in a very spartan dormitory setting and votes taken each
day morning and afternoon. Candidate needs two thirds to win,
unless after thirty ballots there is no winner, then it
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goes to a simple majority. The longest papal conclave in
recent history was nineteen twenty two five days. Now, why
the locking up? How come it has to be all
done in secrecy. Well, because this goes back to the
(08:43):
thirteenth century, in the twelve hundreds, where there was a
lot of dissension who was pope who was not. It
was just a lot of political dissension. And the papacy,
by the way, has been very political. You could buy
your way into the papacy. The mediciese did that in
the fifteen hundreds, sixteen hundreds bought their way in and
you had popes that were thirteen years old. I mean,
(09:06):
it was crazy. So what happened in the twelve hundreds
is there was a conclave. Well, there was a group
of cardinals that came together to elect a new pope,
and they sat around for three years they could not
elect a new pope. Finally, okay, you got Gregory who
became pope, and he set up the new rules, and
(09:26):
the rules became.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Stricter and stricter. Lock you up. The key is locked up.
The key is.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
There's a whole ceremony about the doors of the Sistine
Chapel being locked. Conclave, the conclave, and the cardinals are inside.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
The Cystine Chapel, and they think they just sit around.
They don't. They've got a group of nuns.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That are there that feed these guys some pretty nice
food and they can walk around. And the fun part
is the politicking at the end of which God has
told the cardinals who is going to be in the
next pope. The phone line is connected between the new
pope and God. It's a direct line. Nobody interferes with
(10:13):
that until that happens. It's just a regular cardinal and
they are scrambling.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's like choosing a cabinet. It's who If you.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Vote for me, what's like any elected official? You vote
for me, Here's what I'll give you. In American politics,
I'm gonna bring a new bridge, I'm going to bring
a new factory.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Get me elected. That's what happens.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You can have secretary of State, that's the nuncio, you
could be in charge of the Vatican Bank.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Just vote for me.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It literally is that way. Now occasionally it's their compromise candidates.
That's happened more often than not, every once in a while,
and I think in this case it was Francis. You
have a guy who is truly humble, is truly just compassionate,
does not want to be pope, is elected, and then
(11:08):
once he's chosen as pope, and they don't know, and
the pope is named, and then the black and the
white smoke, Oh man, that is terrific.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That tells the world that we don't or have a
new pope.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
So there they go. Twice a day. The ballots are
burned when there is a new pope, when there is
no pope elected, and it's black smoke. It used to
be the way they burned it. Now it's chemicals that
are put into the fire. And when it's white smoke,
that means the new pope is elected, and the whole
(11:42):
world goes nuts, and there's hundreds of thousands of people
in Saint Peters Square, and the place just rrupts like crazy,
and out comes the new Pope. And he goes up
on the balcony and he puts on the vestments, of
which they have three different sizes for small, medium, and
large popes, and puts on the vestments and chooses his name.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Right there. Now do they think about it before? Who
the hell knows.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But sometimes you don't know, because once someone is elected,
I mean, it happens right there.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You're elected, you step.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Out in the balcony and here you are, You're the
new pope. Quickly choose a name. Fred No, no, no,
you can't be Fred. Bobby, No, no, we don't have Bobby's. No,
that doesn't work. John, Okay, francis not bad, Francis of Sissy, Sure, Clement,
(12:45):
that works.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Billy, Bob, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So we're gonna see who is the new pope, and
we're gonna know in the next month. And now the ceremony,
and it is very ceremonial, starts the history of conclave begins.
All right, you know, I want to continue on, I know,
and we were going to do the gold card. Maybe
we do that the next segment. But I'm watching the
(13:14):
news and this happens to be Fox News, and the
workers are already putting the chimney on the top of
the Cystine Chapel where the white and the black smoke
is going to go up, telling the world there is
no elected pope yet votes are taken twice a day,
and that's the black smoke and then the white smoke,
(13:36):
which tells the world that there is a newly elected
pope and cardinals are on.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Their way from all over the world.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
They will be locked up in the Sistine Chapel and
the voting will take place. Now, there is ceremony in
history throughout this that is extraordinary. The carmel aingo, who
is in charge of putting the election together and handling
(14:04):
all of not only the particulars, but the ceremony around
electing a pope and locking the door of the Sistine Chapel,
happens to be an irishman, Kevin Ferrell. And traditionally, and
again this goes back historically, the carme Lingo takes a
silver hammer and taps the pope's forehead three times to
(14:29):
see if he's alive. And at the end of the
three taps, turns to those in the room, and the
Association's cardinals are specifically chosen to be there. He says
in Latin, and I'm going to loosely translated.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yep, this guy is dead. He is a carcass well
not quite but close.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Determines that he is dead, and then traditionally, although that
hasn't happened, the papal ring is taken off the Pope's
finger and then hit with a hammer and destroyed it
and is destroyed. It is an extraordinary amount of history
going back millennia, and one of the things the papal investments.
(15:19):
Just a quick aside, this is kind of fun. The
same company or the same group of tailors have created
the papal vestments and those slippers that the pope wears,
and you'll see these really ornate slippers. It's the same
group of tailors that have been doing this, a family
tailoring organization or company for the last three hundred years.
(15:44):
And they pride themselves on somehow figuring out the size
of the Pope's feet, and I guess they have many
of them. I think it's like the green jacket for
the masters, where it always fits you ever notice that
the green jacket always fits well, the Pope's garments always fits.
(16:07):
And he comes out and having just been elected, we
have a pope is announced for the white smoke. We
have a pope and he is Once he is elected pope,
he comes out on the balcony and calls himself charge
tells the world what his name is, that he is selected.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It's never his real name, and the you know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
The reason was the reason that they chose a name,
and they used to be the cardinal and there was
a Cardinal Cicola that was elected pope, and when it
turned out that he was going to be known as
Pope Sicola, it just didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's actually funny.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It was a surprise, yes, especially since Pepsi is not
sold in Italy.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's only a coke, so no one knew what the
hell was going on. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, now let's move over to what is going on domestically,
and that is how do you get a green card?
You could actually buy your way into getting a green card.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's been around for a long time.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
If you came in and spent a million dollars on
a business, and there is different rules depending on where
you go in the kind of business, and you hired
X number of people, you actually got a green card. Well,
the president actually this is Elon Musk and with Doge,
he has been working with employees from the State Department
(17:46):
Homeland Security, Immigration Citizenship and Immigration Services to create a
new website and an application process for visas. And they
cost five million dollars. You too can get a green
card and all you do is come up with five
million dollars. So for anybody you know what the border
(18:08):
trying to get across and apply, because now it's impossible
for anybody south of the border to claim asylum to
come in the United States, if they can come up
with five million bucks, they will be able to buy
a green card. With a gold card. Now, I don't
know if you've seen the gold card itself. I think
(18:29):
we put it up Neil. It's on my Instagram page
at Bill hansles Show Media Okay, yeah, at Bill handle
Show and you will see the gold card. And the
gold card is held up by President Trump and it
was on Air Force one. He held it up in
front of the press on Air Force one. And it
(18:53):
is a card with his picture on it. Yep, and
then I think called the Trump card. Yeah, it's called
the Trump card. Uh, it's kind of it's kind of
interesting to say the least. I mean, you know, talk
about self aggrandizement. It's uh, it's by the way, it's
(19:15):
no longer the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of America.
You know that, don't you. It's now the Gulf of Trump.
And we are going on our way to renaming everything
we do and have and live in and with we'll
have his name on it. You stay at Trump hotels,
(19:36):
you buy into Trump condos, and of course you know
all manner things. You buy Trump watches.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
There used to be the oh you go to Trump University.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Of course they had to settle that one because they
were about to be nailed in court. So Lutnick, who
is the Commerce Secretary, sent on a podcast last month
he had sold a thousand of these yesterday, but a
person close to the project said no money.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And Lutnick said.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So, if you have a Gold Card, which used to
be a Green card, you're a permanent resident of America.
And he said most holders would not go on to
become US citizens. They have a right to become American
and they can stay as long as they're good people
and they're vetted and they can't break the law. And
the software is being prepared right now by the Musk folks.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Now those is.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Doing two things now, one cutting expenses by firing about
hundreds of thousands of people as well as shutting down
entire departments and government read the Department of Education, USAID
and a lot of other departments, gutting them. But at
the same time also bringing in revenue. So it's a
(20:57):
double hit. If you cut expenses and bring in revenue. Well,
if you do that.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
In business, you do that individually, you're better off. You're
far better off. And that's exactly the philosophy here.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
You cut expenses as employment and getting rid of departments,
and you increase revenue. In this case, selling these gold
cards with the picture of Donald Trump, and they're really
not gold cards.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
They are Trump cards.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And if you look at them, and they're gold, and
it's just it's wild. His signature on it, and I
think the back it has the United States of America
and a seal and it's laminated. It has the Statue
of Liberty a bald eagle, and it is absolutely delicious.
(21:47):
I mean it does not get better than this. I
don't care which side of the political spectrum you are.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't care if you are a.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Conservative or a liberal, or an ultraliberal, or a fundamental
conservative or a moderate. You have to admit this administration
is insanely entertaining with a capital E. I mean, this
is P. T. Barnum at his best. KFI AM six
(22:19):
point forty.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
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