July 21, 2025 • 23 mins
(July 21,2025)
Forget the High Road: Newsom takes the fight to Trump and his allies… is it working? Feds prep to reopen Alcatraz. Trump urges Washington and Cleveland sports teams revert to native American names. Will personal firefighting devices help or hurt in future wildfires?
Forget the High Road: Newsom takes the fight to Trump and his allies… is it working? Feds prep to reopen Alcatraz. Trump urges Washington and Cleveland sports teams revert to native American names. Will personal firefighting devices help or hurt in future wildfires?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KPI AM six forty the Bill Handles show
on demand on the iHeartRadio f Handle here on a
Monday morning, July twenty one, Amy Gone, She's back again tomorrow.
Neil Gone back again next week on Tuesday, Michael Monks
is here for and he replaces both of them.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Huh? A lot of shoes, Yeah, a lot of shoes. Now,
what happens when two politicians run for office?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
In the final electric and the.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Final vote, inevitably this is what you hear, although not
as much anymore. We are only going to talk about policies,
We are not going to go into personal issues. That
lasts about ten seconds, and they immediately start throwing mud
at each other. In the case of President Trump, it's
mud slides that is being thrown about.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And so here we.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Are with.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Let me put it this way, Michelle Obama has said,
when they go low, we go high, and referring to
the attacks and the very statements made by Republicans about Democrats,
so well, guess what that doesn't work?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know, it works.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Slinging mud, calling people names, and President Trump proved that one.
So here comes Gavin Newsom, who says, Okay, you throw
it at me, you throw it at us California, We're
gonna throw it right back.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So he calls Stephen Miller a cuck. See you K
see U?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
C K no f there, And he posts photos of
President Trump with child molester Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And what the.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Governor is doing is adopting a really aggressive social media
strategy following the Republicans, following Trump specifically, and he's defending that,
and he says he's speaking the only language that Trump
and his supporters understand, and it is winning the attention
of social media users, social media users. Now, is it
(02:06):
successful politically, I don't know at this point, but I'll
tell you it's certainly successful in terms of attention and
support from a lot of Democrats, although there are some
Democrats that are saying he runs the risk of offending
people who miss respectable political discourse.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, who else are they going.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
To vote for?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You have people that are going, oh, we can't do that.
We have to follow Michelle Obama's dictates or her mantra.
When they go low, we go high. No, it doesn't work.
So as offended as they are, what are they going
to do? Not vote for a Democrat, give me a break.
(02:47):
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller called a
California judge a communist after she blocked these roving immigration
arrests based on race alone.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And Trump came in and said.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
This far left liberal judges, and he wants to stop
them cold. We don't like these wacko communist liberal judges.
I mean, obviously, the only way to go is his way.
There's no such thing as independent judiciary in his mind
or that of many Republicans.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So okay.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Governor's office comes back, says this fascist cuck in d C.
By the way, Cook refers to cuckold, and that is
a husband whose wife is being stooped stooping some other
somebody else. He's been cuckholded. That came from Shakespeare, by
the way. That's where we got that word. So the
governor posts this fascist cook in d C. Continues his
(03:48):
assault on democracy and the constitution and attempts to replace
the sovereignty of the people with autocracy. Sorry, the constitution
hurt your feelings, Stephen. This is the Stephen cry. Harder
and so popular among the far right is this phrase,
which has been co opted by the governor. The term
(04:12):
is used to insult liberals as weak, and it is
what is considered a low blow, except it is just
normal political practice now all it is the Democrats taking
a page from Republicans led by Donald Trump in these
kinds of accusations.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And it seems to be working. Makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, you just can't sit back and throw your
hands up and defend.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You have to be somewhat aggressive.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So shortly after, the Department of Homeland Security detained handcuffed
senator US Senator Alex Padia from California. Remember that story.
He was at a news conference and it was Homeland
Security that was holding the news conference, and Alex Padiaz
started screaming and he was arrested. He was thrown to
(05:07):
the floor outside in the hallway. Really interesting. Should have
been removed absolutely, I mean, he was interrupting a news conference,
but they haul him outside. You can see this on video.
They throw him to the ground and then they handcuff him.
And how much interruption can someone do outside the room
(05:29):
on the floor on his stomach being handcuffed. And there
was a Republican assembly member, Joe Patterson, who said that
he would be treated the same way if he were
interrupted in an event held by the governor, Well, guess
what the governor says, I politely ask you to leave,
(05:50):
though you do not deserve politeness in this moment, for
this grotesque tweet.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
You bald little man.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Tonight, Roger take on the Twins at Dodger Stadium, the
first pitch at seven. Listen to all Dodger games on
eight Dodger games on AM five seventy LA Sports live
from the Gallpin Motors Broadcast Booth, and stream all Dodger
games in HD on the iHeartRadio app. Keyword AM five
to seventy LA Sports. Going back to calling someone some
(06:24):
people bald little men. And this has to do with
now the fight between Governor Newsom and President Trump. California
and Gavin Newsom are now the poster child of the
attacks that Republicans, particularly the President, is making, both politically
(06:45):
and personally.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And Newsom is fighting right back.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He has gone right down in the same gutter that
the President does.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The philosophy is you hit me, I hit you right back.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So the governor from his post office Press office, taxpayers
mind you said that HBO had cast Miller Stephen Miller
top senior a to Trump, who is involved in a
lot of these attacks as Lord voltemort Uh, and the
governor defended his posture at a recent news conference. I'll
(07:23):
tell you when all this started, the advisors of Newsom said.
The governor reached the turning point after the President sent
California National Guard troops into la after saying that the
demonstrations were an open rebellion against the government of the
United States and had to be put down as in
any insurrection. I went, come on, really, I mean, do
(07:45):
you believe that that it was to overthrow the government,
not to stop ice from arresting people. Bab Saladay, top
communications advisor to the governor, says, sometimes the best way
to challenge a bully is to punch them in a
metaphorical face. I mean, we're targeting powerful forces here. They're
ripping apart this country using their own words and tactics.
(08:09):
Trump and Steven Miller are attacking the powerless like every
fascist bully before them. I mean, they're both getting in
the gutter here, Newsom's aid say.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is working.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Newsom's personal social media accounts gain two point three million
new followers as a result of his attacks, including a
million each on TikTok and Instagram eight hundred and eighty
three million views from June sixth to July six Now,
this does help anybody running for president, and in this case,
(08:46):
his aids are arguing that this strategy, which is not
a strategy for running for president, mind you, it's a
strategy for simply attack the man that is attacking us,
and it benefits Californians by shutting down misinformation and telling
people what's really going on.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The thing that he does so well.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
These days, and that is talking about Newsom. He responds
rapidly in a way that's very snackable to the average
consumer of news.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Got I love that line.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Karen North said that a professor of digital social media
at USC, now, Republican's been the masters of soundbites for decades,
and Newsom is breaking that mold and bringing the Democrats
in and the.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Governor learned the hard way.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Trump used his platforms to label Newsom as incompetent, blaming
him for the LA wildfires, claims at news conferences and
on social media about dry reservoirs that need to transfer
more water from northern to southern California, a lack of
forest management, empty fire hydrants. All of that went viral,
and some of that made no sense whatsoever. For example,
(10:00):
water from northern to southern California, even if water had poured,
and it would have nothing to do with the fires
at all. And when Trump sent the National Guard into
La the governor went almost immediately into attack to control
the president's claims about lawlessness and sending in federal troops necessary.
(10:20):
And Newsom described these attempts at while attempts for the
most part success at arresting these immigrants, as an invasion
of Los Angeles by federal troops.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And Trump has nicknames.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He calls Newsome, news Scum, Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas, even people
that are in his cabinet. Remember little Marco little hands,
you know, alluding to Marco's little chance. And all of
a sudden, now they are all friends, right, And what
(11:03):
is the bottom line? You join the fray, you are
a friend. You oppose, you are an enemy. You are
an enemy of the United States. You're not an enemy
of just Donald Trump. You are an enemy of the
constitution in the United States.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That's the part that's scary for me.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The rest of it, I think it's hilarious. I love it.
I love the.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Attacks back and forth. I love the mud slinging. That's
what makes politics so interesting. Okay, there is a story,
and it's a Trump story, but it's a fun Trump story.
This is not Trump is ruining our live story or
saving our live story. It has to do with naming
of sports teams. President Trump urged the Washington Commanders yesterday
(11:47):
to go back to their former name and if they didn't,
threaten to derail the deal for the team to build
a new stadium in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
If it didn't submit to his demand.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Used to be well, it used to be the Washington Redskins,
which dropped the Redskins name in twenty twenty amid well,
let's just say there was a lot of political movement,
a lot of quote wokeness, if you will, and it
was pressure from corporate sponsors, lobbying by Native American groups
arguing the team's name and logo amplified racist stereotypes. Did
(12:24):
you I'm trying to remember what the logo looked like
and if you describe, if you find which is the
one that really was very pejorative.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Of all who for the Indians was.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like that, Yeah, that was a chief wat too Wahoo
and he was holding a bottle of tequila, if you
asked President Trump. And that is the problem is that
he views going back to the name and this the
name's been around for what one hundred and something years,
if not longer, Well it couldn't be longer than that anyway.
(12:58):
So Sunday morning, Trump posts message on true social quote,
the Washington Whatevers should immediately change their name back name
their name back to Washington Redskins. He also urged the
Cleveland Guardians the baseball team going back to the Cleveland Indians,
which changed in twenty twenty one, and in one post,
(13:20):
the President said there was quote a big clamoring for this,
that our great Indian people in massive numbers want this
to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, that's kind of news to me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
In fact, the stories that we've been doing were exactly
the opposite. That Native American groups were clamoring for the
names to be changed, arguing that the names were completely racist.
And hours later another post, he now threatens to impose
a restriction on the Commanders by thwarting the deal announced
(13:52):
in April for the team to build a new stadium
in Washington. I don't know if the president has the
power to do that, if he has anything to do
with the stadium, I think it. And I don't know
the answer to that because it's not federal land.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It is to some extent, but Washington, d C. Is
a city. It's a real hybrid kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It is its own city, but at the same time
controlled by the federal government. And I don't know if
the stadium was private funds or some city funds, and
whether or not the president has the ability, but he
said I won't make a deal for them to build
in Washington. And this also is in the same vein
(14:37):
of the Confederate generals, the monuments of Confederate heroes and
the names of army and naval bases around the country,
particularly army bases, and that's using names of Confederate generals,
Confederate heroes, that is, heroes of the Confederacy, and there's
(14:59):
a movement to move those and it actually is working,
except Trump is trying to reverse that completely. And he
had said that after racial reckoning, the murder of George Floyd,
that the removal of these statues over the years have
erased parts of the nation's history. Yeah, that's an argument
(15:22):
that works. Times are different than they were three or
four years ago. We are a country of passion and
common sense. Owners get it done. And this is in caps,
and he reiterated his earlier claim. Name changes have been
rebuked by Native American groups, arguing that Native Americans believe
(15:45):
their heritage and prestige is systematically being taken away from
them by removing the name Indians from this football and
baseball teams, and Trump wrote, Indians are being did very unfairly.
Make Indians great again, myga, myga, make Indians great again.
(16:10):
Now it could be make Indians great again or make
insanity great again. And I really don't know which one
is the case. But really, I mean, come on, you
know there are other things to do, right. I don't
know if you've ever been to Alcatraz. It's kind of
a fun place to go. Well, let me ask, will
(16:30):
you've ever been to Alcatraz?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes? Oh, okay as a tourist, As a tourist not not.
I found the place really depressing.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh yeah, really I kind of loved it. Yeah it's interesting,
but yeah, I like depressing. And if you've been to Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Not on the island itself, I've been in a boat
around it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Okay, Michael, Alcatraz, I've looked at it from the shores. Okay,
that's not quite being there. But it's kind of hard,
you know, Sam, when you're looking out in the Bay
San Francisco, not to see Alcatraz, although it's really interesting
even from the water. And then finally, Kno, you ever
been to Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I've seen Escape from Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You've seen Escape from excellent.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Alcatraz, as you know, was probably the most infamous prison
that existed in the United States, and some really serious
people were there. You've got machine Gun Kelly al Capone
was an Alcatraz, the Birdman of Alcatraz, Robert Stroud remember him?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
But who was it?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Burt Lancaster I think won an Academy Award for him
for that film. And now if you last Thursday, you
saw Attorney General Pam Bondi and Interior Secretary Doug Bergham
visited Alcatraz and they're walking around and the folks at Alcatraz,
who is it runs Alcatraz right now?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I think it's the Park Department had no idea they
were coming.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And then now this one was made that we are
going to open Alcatraz, and the FEDS appeared to be
prepared to open reopen Alcatraz, which the critics are saying,
that's completely crazy. It makes absolutely no sense. Financially, it
makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It is falling apart.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It cost well when it closed down in nineteen sixty three.
At that time it was costing three times as much
to run as any other president in the United States.
Why everything has to be brought in by boat, even water,
and so it is insanely expensive to run, and so
(18:42):
they shut it down. Reason it was out there on
the bay or in the middle of the bay, and
you have the currents, really strong current the water is
very cold.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Is escape is almost impossible.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
As a matter of fact, I think only three escapees
or four escapees ever made it, and one was at large.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The other three were caught. So why Alcatraz? Well, it
is a statement.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
To bring it back, no matter what the cost is.
Now we're getting different stories. The Fox News, which went
with Bondi and Burghram's the only news organization was granted
access What a Shocker, reported no announcement was expected, and
described the trip as merely fact finding, as if Bondi
(19:29):
had to go fact finding herself, and even Bondi and
Bergham know that it's going to be a steep climb,
And I love this. Bergham said, Alcatraz could hold the
worst of the worst. It could hold middle class violent prisoners,
you could hold the illegal aliens, it could hold anything. Actually,
it was Bondie who said that this is a terrific
(19:51):
facility and it needs a lot of work. It needs
a lot of work. So at this point, it makes
the financial sense to bring Alcatraz back as a prison,
and it wouldn't be cheap either, And there'd have to
be a whole bunch of different moves that have to
(20:12):
be made Federal law. Congress would have to pass legislation
to remove the National Environmental Policy Act and Historic Preservation Act,
which are involved here at the facility. You have to
be returned back to the Bureau of Prisons instead of
the Park Department. I mean, there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
To it, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But as the administration said, and as many of the
proponents of moving federal prison or Alcatraz back into the
federal prison system, it is a statement, and the United
States makes a lot of statements that don't make sense
(20:55):
financially let me give you a little one. Ukraine, and
the amount of money that is being spent by the
United States. Is the United States at risk if Russia
takes over that part of Ukraine? Not particularly, and yet
we're willing to spend and by the time this is
said and done, probably over a trillion dollars. The same
(21:18):
thing happened with Afghanistan and with Iraq a trillion dollars
was spent.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
How at risk were we.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
On that one?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And a lot of it is a political statement in
those cases, a political statement in favor of democracy.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think it's obviously a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
More important what's going on with Ukraine than what's happening
with Alcatraz. But quite often the government, and I think
legitimately so so, spends money that make no sense on
a practical level to make statements about its philosophy and
to make statements about policy bringing Alcatraz back, which is
(22:00):
ridiculous financially makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But now you have let me give you an example.
Now you have.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like Alligator Alley or Alligator Alcatraz going on in Florida.
You would have Alcatraz as the poster child of bringing
illegal aliens, illegal migrants into the prison system. Would it
make a statement? You bet it would. And is this
(22:29):
important for the Trump administration? You bet it would?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And so is this going to happen?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Because the attack is too easy. It really makes no sense.
And Alcatraz is a fascinating prison to go to.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's tours. You have to take a tour there and.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The cells are pointed out. This is where al Capone was,
is where a machine gun Kelly was, this is where
other named criminals are. And as Will said, it's a very,
very depressing place.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I liked it. I thought it was neat.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I was wondering, can you book this for a bar
mitzvah for example?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Actually, you can stay there overnight. There are special things
you can the parks.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Can you stay in a cell, Yes, I don't know
that you want to, but you can?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh how cool is this special thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And you have bad baloney sandwiches for dinner, mystery meat sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That would be great.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Uh, this is KFI A M six.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
You've been listening to the Bill Handle show Catch My
Show Monday through Friday, six am. To nine am, and
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You're listenings KPI AM six forty the Bill Handles show
on demand on the iHeartRadio f Handle here on a
Monday morning, July twenty one, Amy Gone, She's back again tomorrow.
Neil Gone back again next week on Tuesday, Michael Monks
is here for and he replaces both of them.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What does that tell you?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Huh? A lot of shoes, Yeah, a lot of shoes. Now,
what happens when two politicians run for office?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
In the final electric and the.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Final vote, inevitably this is what you hear, although not
as much anymore. We are only going to talk about policies,
We are not going to go into personal issues. That
lasts about ten seconds, and they immediately start throwing mud
at each other. In the case of President Trump, it's
mud slides that is being thrown about.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And so here we.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Are with.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Let me put it this way, Michelle Obama has said,
when they go low, we go high, and referring to
the attacks and the very statements made by Republicans about Democrats,
so well, guess what that doesn't work?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know, it works.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Slinging mud, calling people names, and President Trump proved that one.
So here comes Gavin Newsom, who says, Okay, you throw
it at me, you throw it at us California, We're
gonna throw it right back.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So he calls Stephen Miller a cuck. See you K
see U?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
C K no f there, And he posts photos of
President Trump with child molester Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And what the.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Governor is doing is adopting a really aggressive social media
strategy following the Republicans, following Trump specifically, and he's defending that,
and he says he's speaking the only language that Trump
and his supporters understand, and it is winning the attention
of social media users, social media users. Now, is it
(02:06):
successful politically, I don't know at this point, but I'll
tell you it's certainly successful in terms of attention and
support from a lot of Democrats, although there are some
Democrats that are saying he runs the risk of offending
people who miss respectable political discourse.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, who else are they going.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
To vote for?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You have people that are going, oh, we can't do that.
We have to follow Michelle Obama's dictates or her mantra.
When they go low, we go high. No, it doesn't work.
So as offended as they are, what are they going
to do? Not vote for a Democrat, give me a break.
(02:47):
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller called a
California judge a communist after she blocked these roving immigration
arrests based on race alone.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And Trump came in and said.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
This far left liberal judges, and he wants to stop
them cold. We don't like these wacko communist liberal judges.
I mean, obviously, the only way to go is his way.
There's no such thing as independent judiciary in his mind
or that of many Republicans.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So okay.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Governor's office comes back, says this fascist cuck in d C.
By the way, Cook refers to cuckold, and that is
a husband whose wife is being stooped stooping some other
somebody else. He's been cuckholded. That came from Shakespeare, by
the way. That's where we got that word. So the
governor posts this fascist cook in d C. Continues his
(03:48):
assault on democracy and the constitution and attempts to replace
the sovereignty of the people with autocracy. Sorry, the constitution
hurt your feelings, Stephen. This is the Stephen cry. Harder
and so popular among the far right is this phrase,
which has been co opted by the governor. The term
(04:12):
is used to insult liberals as weak, and it is
what is considered a low blow, except it is just
normal political practice now all it is the Democrats taking
a page from Republicans led by Donald Trump in these
kinds of accusations.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And it seems to be working. Makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I mean, you just can't sit back and throw your
hands up and defend.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
You have to be somewhat aggressive.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So shortly after, the Department of Homeland Security detained handcuffed
senator US Senator Alex Padia from California. Remember that story.
He was at a news conference and it was Homeland
Security that was holding the news conference, and Alex Padiaz
started screaming and he was arrested. He was thrown to
(05:07):
the floor outside in the hallway. Really interesting. Should have
been removed absolutely, I mean, he was interrupting a news conference,
but they haul him outside. You can see this on video.
They throw him to the ground and then they handcuff him.
And how much interruption can someone do outside the room
(05:29):
on the floor on his stomach being handcuffed. And there
was a Republican assembly member, Joe Patterson, who said that
he would be treated the same way if he were
interrupted in an event held by the governor, Well, guess
what the governor says, I politely ask you to leave,
(05:50):
though you do not deserve politeness in this moment, for
this grotesque tweet.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
You bald little man.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Tonight, Roger take on the Twins at Dodger Stadium, the
first pitch at seven. Listen to all Dodger games on
eight Dodger games on AM five seventy LA Sports live
from the Gallpin Motors Broadcast Booth, and stream all Dodger
games in HD on the iHeartRadio app. Keyword AM five
to seventy LA Sports. Going back to calling someone some
(06:24):
people bald little men. And this has to do with
now the fight between Governor Newsom and President Trump. California
and Gavin Newsom are now the poster child of the
attacks that Republicans, particularly the President, is making, both politically
(06:45):
and personally.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And Newsom is fighting right back.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
He has gone right down in the same gutter that
the President does.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The philosophy is you hit me, I hit you right back.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
So the governor from his post office Press office, taxpayers
mind you said that HBO had cast Miller Stephen Miller
top senior a to Trump, who is involved in a
lot of these attacks as Lord voltemort Uh, and the
governor defended his posture at a recent news conference. I'll
(07:23):
tell you when all this started, the advisors of Newsom said.
The governor reached the turning point after the President sent
California National Guard troops into la after saying that the
demonstrations were an open rebellion against the government of the
United States and had to be put down as in
any insurrection. I went, come on, really, I mean, do
(07:45):
you believe that that it was to overthrow the government,
not to stop ice from arresting people. Bab Saladay, top
communications advisor to the governor, says, sometimes the best way
to challenge a bully is to punch them in a
metaphorical face. I mean, we're targeting powerful forces here. They're
ripping apart this country using their own words and tactics.
(08:09):
Trump and Steven Miller are attacking the powerless like every
fascist bully before them. I mean, they're both getting in
the gutter here, Newsom's aid say.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
This is working.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Newsom's personal social media accounts gain two point three million
new followers as a result of his attacks, including a
million each on TikTok and Instagram eight hundred and eighty
three million views from June sixth to July six Now,
this does help anybody running for president, and in this case,
(08:46):
his aids are arguing that this strategy, which is not
a strategy for running for president, mind you, it's a
strategy for simply attack the man that is attacking us,
and it benefits Californians by shutting down misinformation and telling
people what's really going on.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The thing that he does so well.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
These days, and that is talking about Newsom. He responds
rapidly in a way that's very snackable to the average
consumer of news.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Got I love that line.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Karen North said that a professor of digital social media
at USC, now, Republican's been the masters of soundbites for decades,
and Newsom is breaking that mold and bringing the Democrats
in and the.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Governor learned the hard way.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Trump used his platforms to label Newsom as incompetent, blaming
him for the LA wildfires, claims at news conferences and
on social media about dry reservoirs that need to transfer
more water from northern to southern California, a lack of
forest management, empty fire hydrants. All of that went viral,
and some of that made no sense whatsoever. For example,
(10:00):
water from northern to southern California, even if water had poured,
and it would have nothing to do with the fires
at all. And when Trump sent the National Guard into
La the governor went almost immediately into attack to control
the president's claims about lawlessness and sending in federal troops necessary.
(10:20):
And Newsom described these attempts at while attempts for the
most part success at arresting these immigrants, as an invasion
of Los Angeles by federal troops.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And Trump has nicknames.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He calls Newsome, news Scum, Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas, even people
that are in his cabinet. Remember little Marco little hands,
you know, alluding to Marco's little chance. And all of
a sudden, now they are all friends, right, And what
(11:03):
is the bottom line? You join the fray, you are
a friend. You oppose, you are an enemy. You are
an enemy of the United States. You're not an enemy
of just Donald Trump. You are an enemy of the
constitution in the United States.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That's the part that's scary for me.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The rest of it, I think it's hilarious. I love it.
I love the.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Attacks back and forth. I love the mud slinging. That's
what makes politics so interesting. Okay, there is a story,
and it's a Trump story, but it's a fun Trump story.
This is not Trump is ruining our live story or
saving our live story. It has to do with naming
of sports teams. President Trump urged the Washington Commanders yesterday
(11:47):
to go back to their former name and if they didn't,
threaten to derail the deal for the team to build
a new stadium in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
If it didn't submit to his demand.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Used to be well, it used to be the Washington Redskins,
which dropped the Redskins name in twenty twenty amid well,
let's just say there was a lot of political movement,
a lot of quote wokeness, if you will, and it
was pressure from corporate sponsors, lobbying by Native American groups
arguing the team's name and logo amplified racist stereotypes. Did
(12:24):
you I'm trying to remember what the logo looked like
and if you describe, if you find which is the
one that really was very pejorative.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Of all who for the Indians was.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like that, Yeah, that was a chief wat too Wahoo
and he was holding a bottle of tequila, if you
asked President Trump. And that is the problem is that
he views going back to the name and this the
name's been around for what one hundred and something years,
if not longer, Well it couldn't be longer than that anyway.
(12:58):
So Sunday morning, Trump posts message on true social quote,
the Washington Whatevers should immediately change their name back name
their name back to Washington Redskins. He also urged the
Cleveland Guardians the baseball team going back to the Cleveland Indians,
which changed in twenty twenty one, and in one post,
(13:20):
the President said there was quote a big clamoring for this,
that our great Indian people in massive numbers want this
to happen.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Well, that's kind of news to me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
In fact, the stories that we've been doing were exactly
the opposite. That Native American groups were clamoring for the
names to be changed, arguing that the names were completely racist.
And hours later another post, he now threatens to impose
a restriction on the Commanders by thwarting the deal announced
(13:52):
in April for the team to build a new stadium
in Washington. I don't know if the president has the
power to do that, if he has anything to do
with the stadium, I think it. And I don't know
the answer to that because it's not federal land.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It is to some extent, but Washington, d C. Is
a city. It's a real hybrid kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It is its own city, but at the same time
controlled by the federal government. And I don't know if
the stadium was private funds or some city funds, and
whether or not the president has the ability, but he
said I won't make a deal for them to build
in Washington. And this also is in the same vein
(14:37):
of the Confederate generals, the monuments of Confederate heroes and
the names of army and naval bases around the country,
particularly army bases, and that's using names of Confederate generals,
Confederate heroes, that is, heroes of the Confederacy, and there's
(14:59):
a movement to move those and it actually is working,
except Trump is trying to reverse that completely. And he
had said that after racial reckoning, the murder of George Floyd,
that the removal of these statues over the years have
erased parts of the nation's history. Yeah, that's an argument
(15:22):
that works. Times are different than they were three or
four years ago. We are a country of passion and
common sense. Owners get it done. And this is in caps,
and he reiterated his earlier claim. Name changes have been
rebuked by Native American groups, arguing that Native Americans believe
(15:45):
their heritage and prestige is systematically being taken away from
them by removing the name Indians from this football and
baseball teams, and Trump wrote, Indians are being did very unfairly.
Make Indians great again, myga, myga, make Indians great again.
(16:10):
Now it could be make Indians great again or make
insanity great again. And I really don't know which one
is the case. But really, I mean, come on, you
know there are other things to do, right. I don't
know if you've ever been to Alcatraz. It's kind of
a fun place to go. Well, let me ask, will
(16:30):
you've ever been to Alcatraz?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes? Oh, okay as a tourist, As a tourist not not.
I found the place really depressing.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh yeah, really I kind of loved it. Yeah it's interesting,
but yeah, I like depressing. And if you've been to Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Not on the island itself, I've been in a boat
around it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Okay, Michael, Alcatraz, I've looked at it from the shores. Okay,
that's not quite being there. But it's kind of hard,
you know, Sam, when you're looking out in the Bay
San Francisco, not to see Alcatraz, although it's really interesting
even from the water. And then finally, Kno, you ever
been to Alcatraz.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I've seen Escape from Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You've seen Escape from excellent.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Alcatraz, as you know, was probably the most infamous prison
that existed in the United States, and some really serious
people were there. You've got machine Gun Kelly al Capone
was an Alcatraz, the Birdman of Alcatraz, Robert Stroud remember him?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
But who was it?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Burt Lancaster I think won an Academy Award for him
for that film. And now if you last Thursday, you
saw Attorney General Pam Bondi and Interior Secretary Doug Bergham
visited Alcatraz and they're walking around and the folks at Alcatraz,
who is it runs Alcatraz right now?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I think it's the Park Department had no idea they
were coming.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And then now this one was made that we are
going to open Alcatraz, and the FEDS appeared to be
prepared to open reopen Alcatraz, which the critics are saying,
that's completely crazy. It makes absolutely no sense. Financially, it
makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It is falling apart.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It cost well when it closed down in nineteen sixty three.
At that time it was costing three times as much
to run as any other president in the United States.
Why everything has to be brought in by boat, even water,
and so it is insanely expensive to run, and so
(18:42):
they shut it down. Reason it was out there on
the bay or in the middle of the bay, and
you have the currents, really strong current the water is
very cold.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Is escape is almost impossible.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
As a matter of fact, I think only three escapees
or four escapees ever made it, and one was at large.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The other three were caught. So why Alcatraz? Well, it
is a statement.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
To bring it back, no matter what the cost is.
Now we're getting different stories. The Fox News, which went
with Bondi and Burghram's the only news organization was granted
access What a Shocker, reported no announcement was expected, and
described the trip as merely fact finding, as if Bondi
(19:29):
had to go fact finding herself, and even Bondi and
Bergham know that it's going to be a steep climb,
And I love this. Bergham said, Alcatraz could hold the
worst of the worst. It could hold middle class violent prisoners,
you could hold the illegal aliens, it could hold anything. Actually,
it was Bondie who said that this is a terrific
(19:51):
facility and it needs a lot of work. It needs
a lot of work. So at this point, it makes
the financial sense to bring Alcatraz back as a prison,
and it wouldn't be cheap either, And there'd have to
be a whole bunch of different moves that have to
(20:12):
be made Federal law. Congress would have to pass legislation
to remove the National Environmental Policy Act and Historic Preservation Act,
which are involved here at the facility. You have to
be returned back to the Bureau of Prisons instead of
the Park Department. I mean, there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
To it, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But as the administration said, and as many of the
proponents of moving federal prison or Alcatraz back into the
federal prison system, it is a statement, and the United
States makes a lot of statements that don't make sense
(20:55):
financially let me give you a little one. Ukraine, and
the amount of money that is being spent by the
United States. Is the United States at risk if Russia
takes over that part of Ukraine? Not particularly, and yet
we're willing to spend and by the time this is
said and done, probably over a trillion dollars. The same
(21:18):
thing happened with Afghanistan and with Iraq a trillion dollars
was spent.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
How at risk were we.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
On that one?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And a lot of it is a political statement in
those cases, a political statement in favor of democracy.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think it's obviously a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
More important what's going on with Ukraine than what's happening
with Alcatraz. But quite often the government, and I think
legitimately so so, spends money that make no sense on
a practical level to make statements about its philosophy and
to make statements about policy bringing Alcatraz back, which is
(22:00):
ridiculous financially makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
But now you have let me give you an example.
Now you have.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like Alligator Alley or Alligator Alcatraz going on in Florida.
You would have Alcatraz as the poster child of bringing
illegal aliens, illegal migrants into the prison system. Would it
make a statement? You bet it would. And is this
(22:29):
important for the Trump administration? You bet it would?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And so is this going to happen?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Because the attack is too easy. It really makes no sense.
And Alcatraz is a fascinating prison to go to.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's tours. You have to take a tour there and.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The cells are pointed out. This is where al Capone was,
is where a machine gun Kelly was, this is where
other named criminals are. And as Will said, it's a very,
very depressing place.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I liked it. I thought it was neat.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I was wondering, can you book this for a bar
mitzvah for example?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Actually, you can stay there overnight. There are special things
you can the parks.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Can you stay in a cell, Yes, I don't know
that you want to, but you can?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh how cool is this special thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I would do that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And you have bad baloney sandwiches for dinner, mystery meat sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That would be great.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Uh, this is KFI A M six.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
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