December 17, 2025 • 23 mins
(December 17, 2025)
Republicans don’t have a healthcare plan, just a plan to kill Obamacare. Susie Wiles comments taken out of context regarding Bondi and President Trump in Vanity Fair. Sorry 6-figure earners: Elon Musk says money will ‘disappear’ in the future as AI makes work irrelevant. Why couples therapists are sick of ‘therapy speak.’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listen Saints kfi AM six forty the bill handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ff AM six forty bill handle. Here it is a day, Wednesday,
December seventeenth, and the stories we're looking at. Nick Reiner,
the son of Rob and Michelle Reiner, who was arrested,
has now been charged with first degree murder of his parents,
(00:28):
and we're getting information on what happened the night before.
The three of them were at a party at Conan
O'Brien's house actually, and when an altercation broke out and
the parents went home with.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Nick and that's when the.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Murder took place or allegedly, Yeah, I always have to
say allegedly. Now, at the end of the year, and
we're only what two weeks out, those of you who
are on Obamacare and have the subsidies that make O
make health care affordable or more affordable, well, those subsidies
(01:05):
end because when they were passed during the Biden COVID period,
the subsidies were necessary and people needed simply needed them
for medical care. Well, they sunseted, and they sunset on
December thirty one. Now, an argument before between those who
(01:25):
advocate the extension of the subsidies and those that won't.
The argument is that they were designed to end. And
one of the things about subsidies, and one of those
things about sunseted laws or sunset laws, is they don't.
Laws are passed and they continue on and on. Benefits
(01:48):
just continue on. I can think of a dozen of them.
There was one helping kids and teachers that was supposed
to sunset and boom, it went on and on. So
what's happening with this, Well, the Republicans are going to
get hit big time. And here's why they have been
fighting Obamacare and have passed bills and filed lawsuits probably
(02:13):
sixty some time, a sixty something times to kill Obamacare.
Argument is Obamacare is a disaster. Obamacare is the worst
thing that ever happened to the United States. And we
have a better plan. Okay, what's the plan. Well, we
have a better plan. Okay, why don't we hear it?
(02:36):
We have a better plan. The president day one, actually
he ran on a part of his platform was I'm
going to have a plan for healthcare within two weeks
of my inauguration, and then two weeks later, it'll be
two more weeks, and then in a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
This has been going on for eight years.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
While Obamacare is being attacked and there's a lot wrong
with Obamacare, it is at least this is what the
argument is. At least people have some sort of coverage.
And as Obamacare ends or the subsidies end, there'll be
tens of millions of people who will either not be
able to have any or will not be able to
(03:21):
afford any insurance. And all of a sudden, the Republicans
are just scrambling we need and the plans they've come
up are ridiculous. We're gonna give you one thousand dollars
and you're gonna have your own healthcare plans and you're
gonna be able to pay for yourself. And what the
President says, I want to see billions of dollars go
(03:43):
to the people, because the right now, the subsidies and
Obamacare premiums are paid to the government and not people,
because it turns out pay to the insurance companies, even
though it is quote private insurance.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's the model.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And so the President has come back and says, I
want to see the billions of dollars go to the people,
not to the insurance companies, And I want to see
the people go out and buy themselves great health care.
So if you don't have insurance and we pay where
the government pays you certainly not the amount of the subsidy,
(04:21):
but pays in this case, one thousand dollars a year,
you can go out for one thousand dollars and buy
great health care, far better than anything the government provides
through the insurance companies. Well, that's not going to fly
because if you look at the math, we're even under
Obamacare and you have the three tiers, the gold, I think,
(04:42):
the silver, and the platinum.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Man, you're still paying through the nose.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Now, if you're dirt poor, you get medical care no
matter what, especially for emergencies. But the rest of us
are going to be absolutely nailed. And the healthcare issue
is what cost the government a thirty eight day stoppage.
It was all based on the healthcare and the subsidies.
(05:10):
And the Republicans say, pass, get the government going again,
and we'll vote, we'll come up with our healthcare plan
right after the government comes back into operation and before
the end of the year. Well, Mike Johnson is releasing
(05:31):
all the Republicans their home for the holidays or will
be this week and it's hard to vote. And so
we're seeing the Republicans come up with not really a
healthcare plan. I mean, they threw together something no comprehensive
healthcare and the premise of what the Republicans have done
(05:52):
since Obamacare has been put into effect, their entire issue
is let's stop Obamacare. It is a desire. It is horrible.
It is the worst thing that ever happened in the
United States. So you come back and say, Okay, give
us an alternative. We have an alternative. What is it, Well,
(06:13):
we have an alternative here.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It is. They put this.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Together literally when the government came back into operation, and
they played with it back and forth and believing nothing's
going to happen you for those of you that are
covered by Obamacare, you ain't going to be well by
the subsidies helping you out with Obamacare, You're not going
to be And the Republicans going to get nailed for this.
And I think this is one of the two things
(06:37):
that are going to nail the Republicans come the midterm
and come to general election in three years for a
Republican candidate who has supported the president over the years,
and all the Democrats have to do is run ads
where the Republican says, I support the president, I believe
(06:57):
in everything he believes in. It's to be a problem
because you've got healthcare and you have inflation, and the
inflation is how Trump won, arguing that inflation under Biden
is what cost Americans basically the ability to buy groceries,
(07:19):
for example, and pay rent and buy insurance, which is true.
By the way, under Biden, a president can't really affect inflation.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
There's too many other factors.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And when inflation goes up, you can't nail President Trump
because presidents just don't have that much influence. Although it's
a great political Oh what a platform it is. Standing
on that platform, standing on behind the lectern and arguing
inflation and insurance is really easy to do. Once you
(07:53):
get into power, then you find out reality. One of
my favorite phrases is or one of my favorite questions,
and this is asked of every president, and this was
asked of President Obama as he was sworn in a
few weeks later interview. The interview started and one of
the reporters said to him or asked him, mister president,
(08:14):
you know you're obviously the first African American President. Do
you understand how important it is? And he said absolutely
for the first ten minutes, and then when you sit
behind the desk, it gets really dicey because you have
to govern. Okay, Now, there is a story about Susie Wiles,
(08:35):
the chief of staff to the President, who gave a
series of interviews to The Atlantic, and nobody understands why
she did that, not only the members of the cabinet,
other members, but people in the know and other chiefs
of staff for.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Going what is she doing?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And what she did is rip into some of the
cabinet members and the vice president. The big one is
telling everybody in the interview that the president is someone
with an alcoholic personality and alcoholics personality. Now, I think
that's the least damaging of all because Donald Trump doesn't
(09:18):
drink not a drop. He's a complete teetotaler, so arguing
that he has anything to do with alcoholism makes absolutely
no sense other than arguing he has the personality of
an alcoholic. He even agreed with that. That is not damaging.
Now what he said or what she said about Pam Bondi,
(09:39):
the Attorney General, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
A little different. Straight out accuses Pam bondy.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What is it whistling or just whiffling, wifling the Epstein case,
really screwing it up. The other thing she did was
she criticized jd Vance. Now, one of the things Pam
Bonni didn't defend. We don't have what she said jd
(10:08):
Vance she accused of straight out as a conspiracist, and
jd Vance said.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Conspiracy because those conspiracies are true.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And so you know, there was some deflection.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think the big story is hert giving the interview
and the attacks on other members of the cabinet.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No is she in trouble. No, doesn't look that way.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The President and the others backed her up one and
as long as she says, and this is Susie Wiles
and others say that the president is the greatest president,
as Donald Trump says, in the history of the Solar system,
and by far the greatest president we've ever had. Even
(10:57):
if you combine the efforts and theccomplishments of George Washington
and Abraham Lincoln, put those two together, and you don't
have as great a president as we have right now.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So you know, where is this going to go?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, it's not going to go very far because it
takes it takes a fair amount to undo one's position
with the president, especially if you were an ardent loyalist.
She also says this was taken completely out of context.
Now she doesn't dispute she said it, but I have
to tell you and being I'm not a victim, but
(11:37):
being involved in something that could have been taken completely
out of context even when you say it. This happens
all of the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if
she wasn't absolutely right about it being taken out of context.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, A story about Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh, Yeah, one of the weirdest guys out there, but
in real when you are the wealthiest person on the planet,
you can be weird. There is no question about it.
And when he speaks, people actually listen. Now do they
pay attention to him? I don't know. He's pretty out there.
(12:15):
Fourteen kids, five different women. I think I heard that
one is trans. Do I have that right? One of
his children is trans. We can look that up. And
he has disowned the kids, And if he hasn't, I
apologize to you humbly, mister Musk, because I don't want
(12:36):
you to assume me, and I'm truly sorry that I
may have offended you beyond anything I can imagine. And
I am now looking at myself in the mirror and saying,
you should not have said that. Do you think that's
enough for? Should I go further than that? You don't
want to get on his You don't want to get
on his bad side anyway. One of the weirdest things
(12:56):
about leon Elon Musk is his position that money is
going to disappear. He believes money itself is on borrow
time because we have a workforce in the future will
to be dominated by AI and robotics, and salaries will
(13:17):
become straight out non existence. Therefore, cash becomes irrelevant. So
there's a story under or a story by a finance
dot Yahoo that starts with, say, let's say you've worked
your way up the ladder and now you have a
six figure income, comfortable. Maybe you have a bunch of
(13:40):
cash in the bank, you've been able to save or
have invested in stocks and retirement accounts. According to Musk,
none of that is going to matter at all. He said,
I think money disappears as a concept, honestly, and he
went on to explain it it's kind of strange. But
(14:01):
in a future where anyone can have anything, you no
longer need money as the database for labor accola allocation.
Sure sounds like Karl Marx, doesn't he if a I know,
except under Karl Marx you work. If AI and robotics
are big enough to satisfy all human needs, then money
is no longer necessary and its relevance declines dramatically.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So let's look at that for a minute.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
If robots can build houses, grow food, manufacture goods, which
at some point probably will provide services like healthcare education
at near zero cost, then wages stop becoming the mechanism
that determines who gets what. And he looks at it,
and he points to something that he really believes in,
(14:49):
and he read and asks us to read the Culture
series by Ian Banks, and that is his best imagining
of the world. And these are science fiction levels that
depict a utopian future where citizens can have anything they
want thanks to AI making money becomes absolutely obsolete, and
(15:11):
we're going to be free to spend our time doing
whatever we love. And Musk has returned to this and
said it repeatedly, even two years ago, when chat GP
was basically new He was telling former UK Prime Minister
Rishi Sunak that AI will soon be able to do everything,
(15:34):
and work will effectively become well a hobby. Now, there
are a couple of unanswered questions that he hasn't done
a good job of answering those. If money disappears, then
who or what decides who gets access to scarce resources?
(15:55):
Because even houses there are going to be big houses
inns and smaller houses and maybe derelict houses in areas
that are dirt poor.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Who guess what?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Because money is no longer the arbiter or the arbitrator here,
or the basis of getting into a nice house. That's
just one of the issues. How about I want to
go on vacation, I have to pay for it. Now
if I don't have money, I want to go on vacation,
But everybody else wants to go on vacation. Who makes
(16:31):
the choice. And he said in less than twenty years,
maybe even as little as ten or fifteen years, the
advancements in AI and robotics will bring us to a
point where working is optional. Now, we had that philosophy
when I was a kid, there were going to be
flying cars.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You remember that. Well, we're actually there. It took us
a while to get there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean, we're going to have flying cars, and we wondered,
how are people going to be able to fly these
cars without training and they're going to run into each other. Well,
we have the technology that does exactly that. In the future,
we're gonna have driverless cars, which we have right now.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I mean, we're going to be the Jetsons.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But I think that George Jetson had a job, didn't he,
Yes he did, and he was still paid, wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yes he was.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And so technologies like chat, GPT and Google, Gemini and
some of the others have actually alleviated the burden of
some time consuming work, which, by the way, for those
of you that used to do those time consuming jobs
and you're out of a job and you still need money,
that gets a little tough. Because you go to a
(17:50):
Starbucks or you go to the grocery store and you
put money on that counter, you put the cornflakes on
the counter.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
They really want money.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And according to Musk, you'll be able to just grab
that box and walk out the door. But if everybody
grabs that box, you're gonna run out of that box.
And I want a box of cereal two and who
makes that decision. So there's work such as data cleaning, summarization,
(18:19):
administrative tasks, and those are going by the wayside. One
survey last year says by twenty twenty nine, AI will
save workers up to twelve hours per week. Well, I've
been hearing that since I've been a kid, that the
future is going to bring us flying cars, which you're here,
(18:41):
will big bring us driverless cars?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well that's here.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
We'll suck up a lot of the work that we do.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
That's here.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And I remember, we're gonna work thirty five hours or
less and then thirty hours or less somehow.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That is in here.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
All right, Okay, moving on. I don't know if you're
in therapy. I've been in therapy most of my life.
That's the other thing about those of the Hebrewic American persuasion.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
A lot of us are in therapy.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I pay, actually, I pay for my therapist therapist. That's
how involved I am with therapy. And there is an
article in the Atlantic whoh yeah, I talked to Susie
Wilds and what therapists are saying, And the author here
talked to a dozen therapists. So this is clearly anecdotal,
(19:37):
but I think this goes across the board. Therapists are
being gas lit by gas lighting. I mean they're being
told this is happening and it's not happening. And I
think gas lighting was the number one word of the
year by the Webster Dictionary and Miriam Wexbert or Oxford Dictionary.
(19:57):
There's a therapist in your York and he's talking about
a couple recently use the term gaslighting to describe almost
every disagreement they have. Oh you're gaslighting me. Well, the
therapist says, this is psychological abuse. They're not being gas lit.
What they are is in the middle of a disagreement.
(20:19):
And you also have other words therapeutic words that now
describe relationships outside of therapy, wrongly applied terms boundaries, triggered trauma,
bond and oh, obsessive compulsive disorder, bipolarity, bipolar disorder, autism ADHD,
(20:41):
And people haven't been diagnosed with those. You know, everybody
has ADHD, everybody. I remember when my kids who were
being treated. I was one of those being treated for
ADHD or bipolarity or autism whatever. And they're in grammar
school and we were really reluctant to admit to the
(21:06):
counselor at school the nurse that they were on medication.
And so we've finally we decided and we said, hey,
you know, if you please keep this quiet, and I
know we have to tell you, but you know, my
kids are on this medication.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Is that going to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And the counselor said, over half the kids at this
school are on medication for bipolarity and autism.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And it's just one of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And doctors prescribe drugs, that's the other thing. And Jim
Kinney has explained that when a patient demands a drug,
the doctors write the script other than drugs that are
illegal or will absolutely cause harm. And so two things happen.
Number One, the people use these words bandied about. This
(21:59):
is internet stuff. This is where we learn this stuff,
and we're using it well TikTok, and you have Instagram.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Billions of people use that, and so you therapy almost disappears.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It does because you're looking at the therapists and you
actually are giving yourself therapists therapy. And what people want
is a therapist to agree with them and simply okay
their feelings and if their feelings are I have this issue.
Boundaries are being are not being observed between my spouse
(22:38):
and me or my kids and me, then we've got
a real problem.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Boundaries.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Therapists used to use the word boundaries, and they would
do it specifically and rarely when it actually applied.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
So people are well people.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
The therapists are glad that people are learning about therapy
and accepting therapy. But you know these words that have
come into lexicon. You remember tubular, that's tubular, man. I'd
go to the Sherman Oaks Galleria just to hear the
young ladies talk about tubularity. That, by the way, is
(23:17):
another misdiagnosed syndrome.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Tubularity. Right, Bro, it's not even right, Bro, it's right? Bruh?
Do I have that right? Very good? There you go,
We'll be back, bro. I just I love this stuff.
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Ff AM six forty bill handle. Here it is a day, Wednesday,
December seventeenth, and the stories we're looking at. Nick Reiner,
the son of Rob and Michelle Reiner, who was arrested,
has now been charged with first degree murder of his parents,
(00:28):
and we're getting information on what happened the night before.
The three of them were at a party at Conan
O'Brien's house actually, and when an altercation broke out and
the parents went home with.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Nick and that's when the.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Murder took place or allegedly, Yeah, I always have to
say allegedly. Now, at the end of the year, and
we're only what two weeks out, those of you who
are on Obamacare and have the subsidies that make O
make health care affordable or more affordable, well, those subsidies
(01:05):
end because when they were passed during the Biden COVID period,
the subsidies were necessary and people needed simply needed them
for medical care. Well, they sunseted, and they sunset on
December thirty one. Now, an argument before between those who
(01:25):
advocate the extension of the subsidies and those that won't.
The argument is that they were designed to end. And
one of the things about subsidies, and one of those
things about sunseted laws or sunset laws, is they don't.
Laws are passed and they continue on and on. Benefits
(01:48):
just continue on. I can think of a dozen of them.
There was one helping kids and teachers that was supposed
to sunset and boom, it went on and on. So
what's happening with this, Well, the Republicans are going to
get hit big time. And here's why they have been
fighting Obamacare and have passed bills and filed lawsuits probably
(02:13):
sixty some time, a sixty something times to kill Obamacare.
Argument is Obamacare is a disaster. Obamacare is the worst
thing that ever happened to the United States. And we
have a better plan. Okay, what's the plan. Well, we
have a better plan. Okay, why don't we hear it?
(02:36):
We have a better plan. The president day one, actually
he ran on a part of his platform was I'm
going to have a plan for healthcare within two weeks
of my inauguration, and then two weeks later, it'll be
two more weeks, and then in a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
This has been going on for eight years.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
While Obamacare is being attacked and there's a lot wrong
with Obamacare, it is at least this is what the
argument is. At least people have some sort of coverage.
And as Obamacare ends or the subsidies end, there'll be
tens of millions of people who will either not be
able to have any or will not be able to
(03:21):
afford any insurance. And all of a sudden, the Republicans
are just scrambling we need and the plans they've come
up are ridiculous. We're gonna give you one thousand dollars
and you're gonna have your own healthcare plans and you're
gonna be able to pay for yourself. And what the
President says, I want to see billions of dollars go
(03:43):
to the people, because the right now, the subsidies and
Obamacare premiums are paid to the government and not people,
because it turns out pay to the insurance companies, even
though it is quote private insurance.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's the model.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And so the President has come back and says, I
want to see the billions of dollars go to the people,
not to the insurance companies, And I want to see
the people go out and buy themselves great health care.
So if you don't have insurance and we pay where
the government pays you certainly not the amount of the subsidy,
(04:21):
but pays in this case, one thousand dollars a year,
you can go out for one thousand dollars and buy
great health care, far better than anything the government provides
through the insurance companies. Well, that's not going to fly
because if you look at the math, we're even under
Obamacare and you have the three tiers, the gold, I think,
(04:42):
the silver, and the platinum.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Man, you're still paying through the nose.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Now, if you're dirt poor, you get medical care no
matter what, especially for emergencies. But the rest of us
are going to be absolutely nailed. And the healthcare issue
is what cost the government a thirty eight day stoppage.
It was all based on the healthcare and the subsidies.
(05:10):
And the Republicans say, pass, get the government going again,
and we'll vote, we'll come up with our healthcare plan
right after the government comes back into operation and before
the end of the year. Well, Mike Johnson is releasing
(05:31):
all the Republicans their home for the holidays or will
be this week and it's hard to vote. And so
we're seeing the Republicans come up with not really a
healthcare plan. I mean, they threw together something no comprehensive
healthcare and the premise of what the Republicans have done
(05:52):
since Obamacare has been put into effect, their entire issue
is let's stop Obamacare. It is a desire. It is horrible.
It is the worst thing that ever happened in the
United States. So you come back and say, Okay, give
us an alternative. We have an alternative. What is it, Well,
(06:13):
we have an alternative here.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
It is. They put this.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Together literally when the government came back into operation, and
they played with it back and forth and believing nothing's
going to happen you for those of you that are
covered by Obamacare, you ain't going to be well by
the subsidies helping you out with Obamacare, You're not going
to be And the Republicans going to get nailed for this.
And I think this is one of the two things
(06:37):
that are going to nail the Republicans come the midterm
and come to general election in three years for a
Republican candidate who has supported the president over the years,
and all the Democrats have to do is run ads
where the Republican says, I support the president, I believe
(06:57):
in everything he believes in. It's to be a problem
because you've got healthcare and you have inflation, and the
inflation is how Trump won, arguing that inflation under Biden
is what cost Americans basically the ability to buy groceries,
(07:19):
for example, and pay rent and buy insurance, which is true.
By the way, under Biden, a president can't really affect inflation.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
There's too many other factors.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And when inflation goes up, you can't nail President Trump
because presidents just don't have that much influence. Although it's
a great political Oh what a platform it is. Standing
on that platform, standing on behind the lectern and arguing
inflation and insurance is really easy to do. Once you
(07:53):
get into power, then you find out reality. One of
my favorite phrases is or one of my favorite questions,
and this is asked of every president, and this was
asked of President Obama as he was sworn in a
few weeks later interview. The interview started and one of
the reporters said to him or asked him, mister president,
(08:14):
you know you're obviously the first African American President. Do
you understand how important it is? And he said absolutely
for the first ten minutes, and then when you sit
behind the desk, it gets really dicey because you have
to govern. Okay, Now, there is a story about Susie Wiles,
(08:35):
the chief of staff to the President, who gave a
series of interviews to The Atlantic, and nobody understands why
she did that, not only the members of the cabinet,
other members, but people in the know and other chiefs
of staff for.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Going what is she doing?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And what she did is rip into some of the
cabinet members and the vice president. The big one is
telling everybody in the interview that the president is someone
with an alcoholic personality and alcoholics personality. Now, I think
that's the least damaging of all because Donald Trump doesn't
(09:18):
drink not a drop. He's a complete teetotaler, so arguing
that he has anything to do with alcoholism makes absolutely
no sense other than arguing he has the personality of
an alcoholic. He even agreed with that. That is not damaging.
Now what he said or what she said about Pam Bondi,
(09:39):
the Attorney General, that's.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
A little different. Straight out accuses Pam bondy.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What is it whistling or just whiffling, wifling the Epstein case,
really screwing it up. The other thing she did was
she criticized jd Vance. Now, one of the things Pam
Bonni didn't defend. We don't have what she said jd
(10:08):
Vance she accused of straight out as a conspiracist, and
jd Vance said.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Conspiracy because those conspiracies are true.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And so you know, there was some deflection.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I think the big story is hert giving the interview
and the attacks on other members of the cabinet.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No is she in trouble. No, doesn't look that way.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The President and the others backed her up one and
as long as she says, and this is Susie Wiles
and others say that the president is the greatest president,
as Donald Trump says, in the history of the Solar system,
and by far the greatest president we've ever had. Even
(10:57):
if you combine the efforts and theccomplishments of George Washington
and Abraham Lincoln, put those two together, and you don't
have as great a president as we have right now.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So you know, where is this going to go?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, it's not going to go very far because it
takes it takes a fair amount to undo one's position
with the president, especially if you were an ardent loyalist.
She also says this was taken completely out of context.
Now she doesn't dispute she said it, but I have
to tell you and being I'm not a victim, but
(11:37):
being involved in something that could have been taken completely
out of context even when you say it. This happens
all of the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if
she wasn't absolutely right about it being taken out of context.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Okay, A story about Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh, Yeah, one of the weirdest guys out there, but
in real when you are the wealthiest person on the planet,
you can be weird. There is no question about it.
And when he speaks, people actually listen. Now do they
pay attention to him? I don't know. He's pretty out there.
(12:15):
Fourteen kids, five different women. I think I heard that
one is trans. Do I have that right? One of
his children is trans. We can look that up. And
he has disowned the kids, And if he hasn't, I
apologize to you humbly, mister Musk, because I don't want
(12:36):
you to assume me, and I'm truly sorry that I
may have offended you beyond anything I can imagine. And
I am now looking at myself in the mirror and saying,
you should not have said that. Do you think that's
enough for? Should I go further than that? You don't
want to get on his You don't want to get
on his bad side anyway. One of the weirdest things
(12:56):
about leon Elon Musk is his position that money is
going to disappear. He believes money itself is on borrow
time because we have a workforce in the future will
to be dominated by AI and robotics, and salaries will
(13:17):
become straight out non existence. Therefore, cash becomes irrelevant. So
there's a story under or a story by a finance
dot Yahoo that starts with, say, let's say you've worked
your way up the ladder and now you have a
six figure income, comfortable. Maybe you have a bunch of
(13:40):
cash in the bank, you've been able to save or
have invested in stocks and retirement accounts. According to Musk,
none of that is going to matter at all. He said,
I think money disappears as a concept, honestly, and he
went on to explain it it's kind of strange. But
(14:01):
in a future where anyone can have anything, you no
longer need money as the database for labor accola allocation.
Sure sounds like Karl Marx, doesn't he if a I know,
except under Karl Marx you work. If AI and robotics
are big enough to satisfy all human needs, then money
is no longer necessary and its relevance declines dramatically.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So let's look at that for a minute.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
If robots can build houses, grow food, manufacture goods, which
at some point probably will provide services like healthcare education
at near zero cost, then wages stop becoming the mechanism
that determines who gets what. And he looks at it,
and he points to something that he really believes in,
(14:49):
and he read and asks us to read the Culture
series by Ian Banks, and that is his best imagining
of the world. And these are science fiction levels that
depict a utopian future where citizens can have anything they
want thanks to AI making money becomes absolutely obsolete, and
(15:11):
we're going to be free to spend our time doing
whatever we love. And Musk has returned to this and
said it repeatedly, even two years ago, when chat GP
was basically new He was telling former UK Prime Minister
Rishi Sunak that AI will soon be able to do everything,
(15:34):
and work will effectively become well a hobby. Now, there
are a couple of unanswered questions that he hasn't done
a good job of answering those. If money disappears, then
who or what decides who gets access to scarce resources?
(15:55):
Because even houses there are going to be big houses
inns and smaller houses and maybe derelict houses in areas
that are dirt poor.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Who guess what?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Because money is no longer the arbiter or the arbitrator here,
or the basis of getting into a nice house. That's
just one of the issues. How about I want to
go on vacation, I have to pay for it. Now
if I don't have money, I want to go on vacation,
But everybody else wants to go on vacation. Who makes
(16:31):
the choice. And he said in less than twenty years,
maybe even as little as ten or fifteen years, the
advancements in AI and robotics will bring us to a
point where working is optional. Now, we had that philosophy
when I was a kid, there were going to be
flying cars.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You remember that. Well, we're actually there. It took us
a while to get there.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean, we're going to have flying cars, and we wondered,
how are people going to be able to fly these
cars without training and they're going to run into each other. Well,
we have the technology that does exactly that. In the future,
we're gonna have driverless cars, which we have right now.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I mean, we're going to be the Jetsons.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But I think that George Jetson had a job, didn't he,
Yes he did, and he was still paid, wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yes he was.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And so technologies like chat, GPT and Google, Gemini and
some of the others have actually alleviated the burden of
some time consuming work, which, by the way, for those
of you that used to do those time consuming jobs
and you're out of a job and you still need money,
that gets a little tough. Because you go to a
(17:50):
Starbucks or you go to the grocery store and you
put money on that counter, you put the cornflakes on
the counter.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
They really want money.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
And according to Musk, you'll be able to just grab
that box and walk out the door. But if everybody
grabs that box, you're gonna run out of that box.
And I want a box of cereal two and who
makes that decision. So there's work such as data cleaning, summarization,
(18:19):
administrative tasks, and those are going by the wayside. One
survey last year says by twenty twenty nine, AI will
save workers up to twelve hours per week. Well, I've
been hearing that since I've been a kid, that the
future is going to bring us flying cars, which you're here,
(18:41):
will big bring us driverless cars?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well that's here.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
We'll suck up a lot of the work that we do.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
That's here.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And I remember, we're gonna work thirty five hours or
less and then thirty hours or less somehow.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That is in here.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
All right, Okay, moving on. I don't know if you're
in therapy. I've been in therapy most of my life.
That's the other thing about those of the Hebrewic American persuasion.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
A lot of us are in therapy.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I pay, actually, I pay for my therapist therapist. That's
how involved I am with therapy. And there is an
article in the Atlantic whoh yeah, I talked to Susie
Wilds and what therapists are saying, And the author here
talked to a dozen therapists. So this is clearly anecdotal,
(19:37):
but I think this goes across the board. Therapists are
being gas lit by gas lighting. I mean they're being
told this is happening and it's not happening. And I
think gas lighting was the number one word of the
year by the Webster Dictionary and Miriam Wexbert or Oxford Dictionary.
(19:57):
There's a therapist in your York and he's talking about
a couple recently use the term gaslighting to describe almost
every disagreement they have. Oh you're gaslighting me. Well, the
therapist says, this is psychological abuse. They're not being gas lit.
What they are is in the middle of a disagreement.
(20:19):
And you also have other words therapeutic words that now
describe relationships outside of therapy, wrongly applied terms boundaries, triggered trauma,
bond and oh, obsessive compulsive disorder, bipolarity, bipolar disorder, autism ADHD,
(20:41):
And people haven't been diagnosed with those. You know, everybody
has ADHD, everybody. I remember when my kids who were
being treated. I was one of those being treated for
ADHD or bipolarity or autism whatever. And they're in grammar
school and we were really reluctant to admit to the
(21:06):
counselor at school the nurse that they were on medication.
And so we've finally we decided and we said, hey,
you know, if you please keep this quiet, and I
know we have to tell you, but you know, my
kids are on this medication.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Is that going to be a problem.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And the counselor said, over half the kids at this
school are on medication for bipolarity and autism.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And it's just one of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And doctors prescribe drugs, that's the other thing. And Jim
Kinney has explained that when a patient demands a drug,
the doctors write the script other than drugs that are
illegal or will absolutely cause harm. And so two things happen.
Number One, the people use these words bandied about. This
(21:59):
is internet stuff. This is where we learn this stuff,
and we're using it well TikTok, and you have Instagram.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Billions of people use that, and so you therapy almost disappears.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It does because you're looking at the therapists and you
actually are giving yourself therapists therapy. And what people want
is a therapist to agree with them and simply okay
their feelings and if their feelings are I have this issue.
Boundaries are being are not being observed between my spouse
(22:38):
and me or my kids and me, then we've got
a real problem.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Boundaries.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Therapists used to use the word boundaries, and they would
do it specifically and rarely when it actually applied.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
So people are well people.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
The therapists are glad that people are learning about therapy
and accepting therapy. But you know these words that have
come into lexicon. You remember tubular, that's tubular, man. I'd
go to the Sherman Oaks Galleria just to hear the
young ladies talk about tubularity. That, by the way, is
(23:17):
another misdiagnosed syndrome.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Tubularity. Right, Bro, it's not even right, Bro, it's right? Bruh?
Do I have that right? Very good? There you go,
We'll be back, bro. I just I love this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
KF I am six forty five.
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