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September 5, 2025 22 mins
(Friday 09/05/25)
GOP senators signal that RFK Jr. is on thin ice. First they come for Netflix passwords… now, some free Amazon deliveries are ending. What travelers need to know about the rise of no-refund vacations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your List Saints.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty the bill Handles show on demand
on the iHeartRadio f camp. I am six forty bill
Handle here it is a Footy Friday, September fifth, and
that means at eight o'clock it is Footy Friday with
Neil eight to eight thirty, and then eight thirty's at
the end of the show at nine it's ask handle anything,

(00:23):
which is I can't say it's well, it's our new
list segment in which we take recorded questions that are
recorded during the week by you.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Neil chooses which.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Questions and then play him on the air and I
hear him for the first time and it's just fun.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And the whole point is humiliate me.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's what it's all about, because I don't do enough
of it myself. Yesterday, oh man, we knew this was
going to be fireworks.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
It had to happen. And what we had is Robert F.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Kennedy, Junior Secretary of Health and Human Services, testifying in
front of the Senate Finance Committee. And man, the senators, well,
certainly the Democratic senators wanted to pounce on him, and
they did, and some of the Republican senators nailed him

(01:17):
especially the doctors in the Republican Party, because for doctors
to agree with Kennedy that effectively vaccine should not be
made available, particularly the COVID vaccine, to the large swaths
of the American public as a matter of fact, all

(01:37):
swaths of the American public except for people with underlying
medical conditions or infants, I think up to the age
of eight of eighteen months, or people sixty five years
or older. That leaves everybody in the middle saying you
don't need the vaccine, and as a matter of fact,
we're not going to suggest you take the vaccine, and
as a matter of fact, we're going to recommend that

(01:58):
you don't, which rows everything up in the air. The
turmoil is unbelievable because of what the Department of Health
and Human Services does through the cdc IS issue guidelines,
and guidelines are followed by insurance companies other health agencies.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I mean, the ripple effect is astounding.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now the GOP senator stop short of calling on Kennedy
to resign, and man, you know they want to, and
no one has said they regret voting for him in February,
which of course you know they do regret it.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean there's no issue.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But why wouldn't they publicly go and say we regret it.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because he is a nominee of President Trump, and you
do not go against President Trump under any circumstances. Case
in point, we have the Epstein files, and there's a
move to make them public, even though the President wants
to say no, and he has said outright, you vote
to make these public, that is a hostile act to

(03:04):
my administration. Any vote against me is a hostile act,
and there are consequences. This one is really serious because
this involves people's.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Lives and health across America.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
And he received Kennedy an unusual attack from Senate Republican
whip by John Barrasso out of Wyoming, who happens to
be an orthopedic surgeon when he testified, and Barrosso said
I support vaccines.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm a doctor.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Vaccines work, and then went on to ask Kennedy, Senator
Secretary Kennedy, in your confirmation hearings, you promised to uphold
the highest standards for vaccines. Since then, I've grown deeply concerned.
Now here is the issue. What Kennedy is saying is

(03:59):
he is a holding the highest standards for vaccines by
telling people not to take them. I mean, as crazy
as that sounds, what he is doing is taking science
and saying that is fake and pseudo science, which says
vaccines can be dangerous in some cases, vaccines don't even

(04:23):
cure or they don't vaccinate against COVID. He's actually said
that that they're not particularly effective, the coviinge vaccine, the
COVID vaccine is not effective. And he was questioned on that, saying,
what are you talking about? And he was asked, do

(04:44):
you actually believe that? Look at the science. I have
to look at the science. I have to look at
it very carefully to see whether that's true or not.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Brosso pointed out to the National Measles Outbreak the ouster
of CDC Director Susan Manaraz, who refuse to sign off
on Kennedy's position that vaccines are in some way have
a negative impact on America, that they can be dangerous,

(05:20):
that they don't cure COVID or they don't what they
don't do is anticipate covid was the word I'm looking
for here. They don't stop COVID from being contracted by
people or stop people from contracting COVID. I got that,
and that's his position. And the senators, particularly the doctors,

(05:43):
are going, no, that's impossible. Yet every single one of
them voted for his confirmation, every one of them, and
they have yet to say I made a mistake. You
won't hear that, even though these are doctors who just
nailed him. The one Republican who voted against his confirmation

(06:05):
just one, and that was Mitch McConnell form a majority leader.
And why did he vote against him? Well, because everybody
showed it. I voted should have voted against him. The
guy is an anti vaccine. The guy is anti science.
Kennedy is anti research. Kennedy is a very very dangerous,

(06:29):
dangerous person to head Health and Human Services. So why
did mcconald vote against him? Because mcconald's not running again.
Mcconnald doesn't care. Trump can go all he wants, or
I'm going to make sure you don't get elect sit.
I'm going to primary you out. I'm going to tell
your people, tell the party not to run, not to

(06:51):
elect you again, not to for you.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It even be in the nominee.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Mcconnald's retiring what does he care? Fine, not your socks off.
So this one had to do with Kennedy who just
straight out lied when he was in confirmation hearings. He
just outright lie said, I believe in vaccines. I am
not going to stop what the government is doing with

(07:15):
the vaccinations, vaccination models and procedures and policies. And the
first thing he did is wipe all that out. This
is absolutely crazy. Brosso who is a doctor and the
senatece number two ranking Republican leader, Secretary Kennedy, and your

(07:36):
confirmation hearings, you promised to up hold the highest standards
for vaccines. Well, Kennedy's position is by not letting people
or arguing that people should not be vaccinated, that is
the highest standards for vaccines.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
See that's real science. I mean, it is that nuts.
It really is. Bill Cassidy, who is chair.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Of the Health of the Senate or the Health, Education,
Labor and Pensions Committee and the Help Committee and attended
the hearing, said Kennedy's policy changes have made it tougher
for people to get vaccines. Straight out, he voted to
confirm Kennedy. His was the vote that was over the top.

(08:24):
Had he voted the other way, Kennedy would never have
been confirmed, wouldn't get out of committee. Cassidy said, I
would say, effectively, we're denying people vaccines.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
And of course Kennedy says, oh, no we're not, but
you are. No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's raining outside, No it's not. The lights are on
inside this room, No they're not.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's dark. Hum.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And then he drew Kennedy into a straight out contradiction, saying,
do you agree that Trump deserves the Nobel Prize for
Operation Warp Speed, which Trump backed to develop the COVID
nineteen vaccine, which is one of the great legacies of
Donald Trump. I believe Kennedy in regard to the Nobel

(09:14):
Prize had absolutely But wait a sec You told Senator
Bennett that the COVID vaccine kills more people than COVID.
The vaccine kills more people. You said that, and you
were a lead attorney for the Children's Health Defense. These
were lawsuits that you filed attempting to restrict access to
COVID vaccine.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
No I didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's just not true, Okay, And yet you think so
highly of Operation war Speed. When you were an attorney
you attempted to restrict access. It went on and on,
and it was crazy, It really was. Elizabeth Warren just
threw her hands in the air I mean just threw

(09:58):
her hands in the air when talking about firing the
CDC director. You fire the CDC director. She's a liar
and she has no ethics. But wait a minute, a
month before you talked about the kind of ethics she
has and how much confidence you have in her.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
She's a liar. Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Also canceling mRNA research contracts. Fired all seventeen members of
the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice ASIP. These are doctors
and experts in the field, and they advise the CDC,
which the CDC always follows as to when vaccines should

(10:45):
be given to whom they should be given. And he
fired every one of them, and why because they don't
believe in science. We believe in science. So anti vaccine
is science. COVID vaccines killed more people than COVID. That's science.

(11:06):
But the numbers don't say that. We have to look
at the numbers. The numbers may be wrong. We'll see
what happens. Every doctor voted to confirm him, even when
they knew.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Which side of the coin he's on. I mean, that's politics.
Can you imagine do you think Trump will ever get
rid of him?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, because political pressure is going to be so much.
Maybe Trump has absolutely no choice at some point. If
there's going to be a huge outbreak, let's say a
COVID outbreak happens in big numbers, there's no downside for
Trump getting rid of Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
What's he going to do?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
The MAGA base is going to get hugely upset, nobody's
going to be pissed off. But again, what is the
number one factor involved in any appointment by President Trump?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Loyalty? Loyalty. That's it.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Not expertise, not credentials, not a history of a running
agencies or reputation.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
None of that matters. It's all loyalty, nothing else.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
And so maybe at some point the President's going to say,
you know what, as much as.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I like Kennedy, it's gonna be how many people die?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
If they die, we'll see if outbreaks happen, and vaccinations
could have made a difference. Don't know, I just don't
think there's any downside.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay. Now, one of the things.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
About Netflix, and I'm a Netflix fanatic, I mean that's
if I had to give up all of my streaming services,
the only one I would keep is Netflix. You always
could share passwords. Well that stopped. They're going, uh uh,
you know you have a Netflix subscription, you're going to

(13:05):
pay for it, and you can't invite. That's their program.
Guess what Amazon's do. Amazon's doing the same thing. Their
Prime Invity Team program ends October one. No more sharing
a free shipping with users at different addresses, only at
the same address, and they've cracked down on the ability

(13:29):
to do that. It's the Amazon Family program. It's only
people living in the same address. How did that even work?
I mean, I thought that was kind of neat. I
don't share my password with people, or certainly my Amazon account.
And the Amazon looked at it and said, you know what,
it's working for Netflix, maybe it works for us. Now

(13:53):
why did they do it in the first place. Well,
they thought it would get more people on board, like
Prime Day. They figured, Okay, we have Prime Day and
we're going to make it work. And it has worked,
except this last year Prime Day four days did not

(14:13):
generate as many new customers as it has in the past.
So now Amazon is saying, all right, since it is
not working, the sharing of this free shipping, let's go
back to or let's go to you pay.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's that simple.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
If you're at a different address, you're not going to
get the free shipping. Password sharing gone. Amazon now cracking down,
and you know it makes a lot of sense, because
are you ready for the numbers.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Without sharing? Okay? Amazon and the streaming services.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Have lost nine billion dollars this past year and they're
saying that's going to disappear. And they thought it wasn't
going to work. You know, our company is the company
going to lose members due to the switch. Because free
shipping is really important. Nerd Wallet, which is a personal

(15:14):
finance website, found that two in five Americans say they
would almost always opt for a retailer that offers free
shipping over one that doesn't. Really what a genius that is.
But here is the question, would you pay more for
free shipping at our house? It almost doesn't matter what

(15:36):
the cost of stuff is. Free shipping is everything. You know,
there are companies that the free shipping is their model. Lindsey,
for example, works with a fit switch your switch fit
that sends clothes to her and they say, pick what
you want, send it all back. What you don't want
send it all back if you don't want any of it.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's shipping is Amazon shipping. That's their model.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And what they're not allowing now is you can ship
from somewhere else. Now you can still have other shippers,
other people using it, but it has to be in
your own household. And they looked at what Netflix is doing.
Netflix took the gamble, which I don't understand as much
of a gamble. I don't get it, and it worked

(16:28):
for Netflix, and Amazon is following that model, taking the
same page.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
So if you get free shipping.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now, this ended new enrollees and what's called the Prime
and vit free shipping for people you know, family friends,
even outside of your address. That ended in twenty fifteen,
but legacy unit users have still been able to use it.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ends October one. It's done.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
And so here's a number that was staggering then estimated
two hundred and forty million Prime subscribers worldwide, two hundred
and forty million of what one hundred and eighty million
in the US alone. And now it's the Amazon Family programming.
You want to ship, it has to be out of

(17:19):
your address. I didn't even know you could have separate
addresses that used shipping.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Did you kneel? No? I didn't know either, No, and
did you no, that's weird. Amy. Did you know about
the invit program? Yeah? Yeah, oh you did? Okay, do
you use it a lot? No?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, I don't understand. So they're going to make money.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, yeah, it's probably more for like family members because
they said, if you're living in the same household, you can, right,
But it could be friends too, But but it is.
But friends are not going to live with you, family
members are. Yeah, so that program is over all right,
fair enough. Now here's something that is in my life,

(18:08):
and that's traveling. I am leaving for vacation next Friday.
I'll still broadcast and I am traveling. Let me tell
you what happens on my Saturday show if you listen tomorrow, inevitably,
I guarantee that it's a possibility.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
That sort of kind of.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
And I get these a lot refundable tickets, travel tickets,
particularly bill I couldn't go, and the hotel, the airline
won't refund my ticket.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Do I have recourse? Can I sue them?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Why did you buy a non refundable ticket? Well?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, okay, what does non refundable mean? You want to
look that up in the dictionary. That means non refundable.
And why do people buy non refundable tickets? Because it is,
they're cheaper, and you figure, what are the chances of
me not going right?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm going to get it on an airplane.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
For example, I'm getting on an airplane next Friday and
I'm off and running. Do I have a non refundable ticket? Yes,
but I bought insurance. And here is the good news
and the bad news. You buy a non refundable ticket,
it almost well, it's almost impossible to get your money back.

(19:30):
Even for example, if you are switching airplanes and your
layover is three hours four hours, which of course is
plenty of time, and something happens you're on the tarmac,
the plane apart on the plane needs to be replaced
before you fly off. You don't make it. It's non refundable.
The plane that you're going to transfer to, it's too bad. Now, reader,

(19:52):
ticket is non refundable. And that's happening.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
More and more and more.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And here is a piece of advice is don't buy
a non refundable ticket. Buy refundable hotel tickets, airline tickets,
cruise tickets.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Because the price.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Of non refundable and refundable is now shrinking.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
A good way of dealing with.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Non refundable tickets is to buy travel insurance, which I
do as a matter of policy, as a matter of religion.
Here's the problem. It's ten percent. So let's say you're
booking a ten thousand dollars trip. You're going to go
to Disney and one of your kids gets sick. You

(20:39):
can't go, something happens at work, and so you got
to cancel. Well, you think Disney cares. That's not That
hotel room was non refundable. You think the airlines care
that airline trip was non refundable. Insurance covers all of it.
Now my insurance plan is I mean, it's still ten percent,
and for some reason, the insurance plan I have, I

(21:01):
have to have a medical reason to go to submit
before they'll pay payoff on all non refundable the refundable ones.
They won't pay because you get your money back, But
I have to have a medical reason. Can I get
around it?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Of course? I can.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I pay a doctor, you know, to come up with
some kind of problem that I have. Oh, did I
just admit practicing fraud here. I don't pay a doctor.
I talk about paying a doctor. I don't do it.
I go to a doctor and I say I'm not
feeling well. You're fine, Bill, No, no, I hurt. The

(21:40):
reality is that in my plan is someone has to
be sick now. And I just switched to credit cards.
That's another one. You know, some credit cards give you
travel insurance, and that's the credit card I now have.
So what's the bottom line and when you travel, be

(22:01):
really careful of that non refundable stuff. Is it more
money for refundable yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Is it worth it?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I think so because the other end, if you turn
out to lose your trip where the airline just is
not going to refund even.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
If it's their fault. You have mechanical.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Failure and you missed your flight the connecting flight, they go,
I don't care. I mean, they'll fight it. It's crazy,
all right. KFI am six forty you've been.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
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Speaker 2 (22:35):
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