May 27, 2025 • 27 mins
(May 27,2025)
KFI & KTLA tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Google I/O, Jony Ive & OpenAI, a handy gadget alert, and Samsung’s new Galaxy S25 Edge. Thousands of Israeli nationalists chant 'Death to Arabs' during procession through Jerusalem
KFI & KTLA tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Google I/O, Jony Ive & OpenAI, a handy gadget alert, and Samsung’s new Galaxy S25 Edge. Thousands of Israeli nationalists chant 'Death to Arabs' during procession through Jerusalem
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. It is a Tuesday morning,
May twenty seven. As we continue on with the show,
it is time for as we do every Tuesday at
this time, we do the Tech Segment with Rich Demurrow.
Rich seen on KTLA every day, Rich on Tech every Saturday.
(00:29):
Here on KFI at eleven am to two pm, Instagram at,
Rich on.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Tech website, Rich on tech dot TV. Good morning, Rich,
Good morning to Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, last week we talked about the event that you
went to, the Google event.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
If I'm not mistaken, yes, and so.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Okay, so what came out of that, because I know
you anticipate and then what actually happens and then you
report on what came out and you go, ooh, let
me tell you, Let me tell you, folks, this happens.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So do we have any great news there? Well?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think for the takeaway is obviously that Google was
forced into AI by CHATGYBT even though they'd been working
on it for a long time. They forced their hand
into kind of releasing all these new products and services
and whatever that to take advantage of AI. And now
Google is saying, look, okay, the last couple of years
we've been dipping our toes. Now we are really showing
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off the fact that we know what we're doing with AI.
We already have all the base knowledge of the Internet
because we've been doing that really well for twenty five years,
and now we're going to supercharge everything that we've done
and make it AI to the limit, and so things too.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Goh, yeah, yeah, please go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
No, yeah, I'm I mean, look, Gemini is their version
of AI. They're putting that into every single product. And
then I think for consumers the main thing to know
is twofold number one. This new AI mode is in Google.
We've talked about it before on the show because a
couple of months ago I said how cool it was.
It was an experiment. I guess it's been so good
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that now they're like almost replacing their search with it.
So when you're searching, if you see that little tab
or button that says AI mode, tap it. It is incredible.
You can ask really complex questions that nobody's ever asked
the Internet before and still get answers. So it goes
wavyond keywords. And then on the iPhone there's a really
cool feature now called Gemini Live. You can share the
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video from your phone's camera, so you can basically have
AI take a look at something. And so, for instance,
I was trying to figure out my sprinkler system. I
just pointed my camera at the sprinkler system in my
yard and like ask questions about it. Hey, what does
this button do? How do I adjust this? What do
I need to know here? And it's like having the
smartest person answer your questions.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Who knows your sprinkler system?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, and everything else in the world, I mean right
into the radio show and he said, rich, nobody could
tell me what these two little connectors were for on
my new car. I pointed AI at it and asked,
and instantly it explained what those are four he said,
this is this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So you have.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Different companies doing different versions of AI, and give me
an idea, you chat.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
ChiPT is one of the first people out.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, they basically invented or created the concept. What
do these other companies do that IT doesn't do? And
can they be proprietary about what they've developed?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, it's interesting because someone like, Okay, so there's a
I mean, obviously there's a bunch of companies all doing this.
You've got the main ones like chat GBT open AI.
You've got Microsoft, which is using chat GBT technology underlying.
You've got Google, which has Gemini. You've got Grock, which
is part of you know, Elon Musk's Empire of Things
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and that's doing it as well. You've got deep Seek
out of China, You've got Mistrol out of France. Uh,
and then you've got Meta, you know which owns Facebook.
They're doing it as well, and they've built it into
all of their products. So the proprietary nature is interesting
because some companies are taking more of an open source
aspect to this. A lot of these companies are sort
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of secretive about the you know what powers the AI,
but someone like Meta is opening up their AI whereas
anyone can use it to program what they want to do.
So they're all taking a slightly different approach. But at
the end of the day, Bill, I think the big
trend is, you know, companies want to use this to
power things and to power systems that they're building, and
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so of course they can do that and pay these
companies on the back end. But I think for consumers,
the real sticky factor at this point is that these
AI bots are getting to know the people that are
using them. And so, for instance, I was reading an
article and basically the thesis is that the more these
AI bots get to know the customer, the more customized
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they become, and the less you're going to want to
switch to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
A different AI chatbop.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
What I've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And my daughter is the one I go to on
this one because she's my tech nerd and is getting
her master's degree in cybersecurity or whatever the hell she's studying.
And that is AI is wiping out entire sectors of industry.
I mean just across the board. Any research done, any
analysis going to be done. In the legal field, for example,
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a first year associate comes in and they are put
on research done. There is no time. And I was
reading some articles saying that there really are no entry
level jobs anymore because they're all going to be done,
which means as the medium level management and the upper
level management retire, there'll be no one there that has
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the experience that can run companies.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, there was we talked about on KTLA today is
this article and op ed in the New York Times,
which you may have seen by one of the executives
at linked In saying, look, AI is definitely disrupting the
entry level job sector. Like you said, paralegals, anyone that's
getting their first job. And obviously we've got a lot
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of college grads getting into the job market right now,
and they're not all too excited about it because the
jobs that they used to use to either learn the
ropes or you know, just get their foot in the
door are no longer available, or they've changed because you
just don't need someone to do those. Like you said,
AI is really good at simple tasks like analyzing large
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amounts of data and very simple things that used to
take a person, you know, time and energy to do,
and AI can now do it in seconds. So I
guess the thesis of the LinkedIn article was basically that
jobs still have to hire these people, but help them
work with AI, because otherwise, if we don't get these
young people sort of into the folds, there's going to
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be a deficit in the future of people that can
have these higher level jobs that understand the whole company.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's crazy my daughter with her bachelor's degree can't get
an entry level job in the field, which.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Is why she's doing your master's degree.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And I'm very proud of the fact that she's going
to have a master's degree and will not be able
to get a job.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know, I think she's taken the approach of like,
let's see what happens, because right now everything has been
thrown up in the air. You know, companies are still
trying to figure this out. And look, Bill, if you're
a company, what are you trying to do. You're trying
to save money. And so if someone from your department
in it is saying, hey, look, AI can do this,
and it can replace these people, and it's more efficient
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and it's this price. Of course you're going to do that. Now,
we don't know what the long term sort of effect
of all of this is, whether companies come back and say, Okay,
this works, this doesn't work, we need people for this still.
So I think it's all still up in the air. Yes,
it is definitely changing, for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh do I take an opportunity now to hustle a
job for my daughter Neil?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I don't think I've ever done that, have I? Is
that even allowed?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is that even allowed? If anybody if anybody needs an
entry level person, just write me, and you probably won't
hire my daughter either, like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Won't, or any new trainee or intern who has good
computer skills. She's going out of her mind.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And you know, based on that LinkedIn article which I read,
or that executive, she is not alone.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
She is not alone. It's really tough.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Okay, let's talk about the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five Edge.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm assuming that's a new phone.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And you know, when you talk about the newer, better
sort of the blastow five thousand of the iPhones which
I have, I'm getting the idea that Samsung is moving
a head of the curve, that they're more advanced and
are working more in terms of newer technology.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, I would say that they probably try more things
for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, good answer. Okay, So with that, oh we're gonna
have a good time with this. Uh what's your what's
your go to?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Do you do Android or iPhone or both?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well? I mean, I look, I carry three phones because
I've got to answer questions on the radio show about
all of them. And uh, you know you've got you've
got iPhone is obviously very popular. You've got Samsung probably
the second most popular, and then Google's Pixel is a
very popular phone as well. So h and that's and
(09:44):
that one i'd say is probably gaining the most new
fans because it's really clean, it works really well. The camera,
obviously everyone knows, is really good. But you know, when
it comes to the it's interesting when you ask that
question of Apple versus Samsung. So Samsung definitely tries more
things like this new phone is coming out on Friday.
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It's the Galaxy S twenty five Edge. It's super slim.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks now.
It is undeniably fun and different because it's a really
thin and lightweight phone, but it's very high powered, like
it has all the features you need. The two downsides
that I have noticed are the zoom because they can't
have as good of a zoom lens as maybe if
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you've got the iPhone Pro or all the other ones
that have a dedicated zoom lens. This does not have that,
so the zoom is a little bit iffy.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And also the battery life.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
It definitely runs down a little bit faster than some
of the other phones out there, but at the same time,
it's super thin and lightweight, and so people are going
to see that as kind of refreshing. And we know
that Apple is expected to do something very similar with
a thin and light iPhone later this year, maybe nicknamed
the Air or something like that, the Ultra, who knows.
But my point is with Apple, they they have a
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much different approach because they control everything from what's inside
the phone to the software, and that leads them to
be able to do very different things when it comes
to power efficiency, when it comes to features, the camera, Siri.
The way things work on the iPhone is just much
more integrated than the way they work on Android phones
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because Android has a mix of all different parts and
all different software and all different manufacturers, and so it's
just a different approach to a very similar problem.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, Yeah, we're probably gonna have that conversation, you know, obviously.
You know, I'm an iPhone guy, and I won't even
try anybody any other phone because I just don't want
to learn it. I just don't have the ability. I
just learn how to turn my phone on, which I'm
assuming a lot of people have a problem with the technology.
All right, Gadget alert real quickly only have a couple
of minutes and I always love gadgets.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Oh this is great. This is a super simple, fun
new gadget. It's not I guess you can't even call
a gadget, but it is a power cable from a
company called twelve South. And what they have done is
they've made a cable that on one side is a
plug and on the other side is USBC plug. So
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basically it's a power cord, that's what they call it.
And it the best part about this thing is that
you're not looking. You know, when you get a power
cable at your house, you need to get the plug
that goes into the wall, and then you have to
get the power cord itself, right the USB cable and
you plug goes in, and it's always too short.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So if you have kids like I do that always
want their iPad plugged in they're moving around the house
or sitting on the couch or sitting on the bed,
they're sitting on the floor, this thing comes in a
ten foot length, so you can sit there on the
couch and actually have your phone plugged in and use
it without pulling this thing out of the wall. So
it's just a super simple gadget that you know, it's
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not new to have a power cable like this, but
it is kind of refreshing that it works with all
your different devices and it just is simple. So forty
dollars or fifty dollars if you want that ten foot length.
But I love this thing. I've been playing with it
for a week. Just came out and it does make
life a lot easier, especially for travel. You just plug,
you know, one thing to bring that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Can't you buy like a twenty foot table out there someplace.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yes, you can, but you know, most of the time
it's just a cable, so it might not have the
plug part of it.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And then you wonder.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know a lot of people are also using plugs
that are not powerful enough for their phone, Like they're
not taking full advantage because they're using an older plug,
you know, like that power adapter that goes into the
wall might be from a previous device that doesn't give
you as much juice. This one has thirty watts, which
is plenty for almost every gadget nowadays. You know, some
laptops will take that as a trickle charge. I know
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it's getting a little technical, but you know it depends
on the wattage of the device, but all the phones
and things like that will charge really fast with a
thirty walk.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
All right, rich will catch you this weekend Saturday morning
tomorrow on KTLA and or Saturday eleven am to two
pm here on KFI and next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
All right, you have a good one, Oh thank you.
Take care.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Now. I want to spend some a couple of minutes
talking about something I have not done in a little while,
and that is refer to what happened yesterday. Yesterday there
was a march in Jerusalem where thousands of Israeli nationalists
were chanting death to Arabs. It's tough to see, it
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really is. And what's going on with Gaza is also
very tough. What's for any of us to look at?
And I come from someone whose grandparents died in the Holocaust,
My dad's almost his entire family was murdered in the Holocaust,
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so obviously I am biased.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But then you reach point where you know what's going
on over there.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Israel is engaging in criminal acts, a crime against humanity,
straight out straight out starving people to death, not letting
aid to under either the guys or the reason is
that the aid is being used by Hamas, being sold
to get cash to continue with the war.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And that may or may not be true, whether Hamas
is co opting the aid.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You've got world organizations, international aid organizations that are there
saying that's absolutely not true, that they are distributing the
aid and it's reaching the right people and Hamas is
not getting it. And you've seen those pictures of those
starving kids, that their thighs are as big as their
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ankles and they're starving to death. There is no economy
in Gaza. It does not exist. There is no infrastructure
in Gaza, it does not exist. You have over two
million we the world has over two million people in
Gaza that rely almost one hundred percent on foreign.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Aid coming in to eat. Otherwise they starve.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
And Israel controls everything and anything that goes into Gaza.
And so whether people live or die or starve to
death is at the whim of the government of Israel.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And it is so tough to see what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Israel says when it attacks, for example, and takes out
which it did, eighty percent of the infrastructure, well one
hundred percent of the infrastructure, but eighty percent of the
buildings and move entire population from place to place to place,
saying this is a safe zone over here. You go
down to Kunis, and then a week later or two
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weeks later, no, no, we're gonna bomb Kunis and take
it out, and you have to go to this section.
And then a month later, no, no, you go to
this section. There are people that have been displaced seven
eight times, taking their whatever goods they have, their children,
their mattresses, and moving into those areas until the next
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time Israel says no.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You can't be there.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It is What is happening is absolutely horrific. And you
have two sides, both of which are completely insane. And
I am actually going to at this point blame Israel more.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
For what's going on.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I start, how do I do that? How do I
blame Israel more than Hamas. Israel legitimately came in in
defense and it hasn't argue we have to defend ourselves
against Hamas. This is an organization that is dedicated. Its
first thought is the destruction of Israel. The second thought
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is the destruction of Israel, and that's what they're there for,
not to feed the people.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Even though it's a government, not to educate the kids.
It is to destroy Israel. There, it is, it stops there.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So why am I not blaming Hamas Because Hamas to
me is a straight out terrorist organization, that's all they are,
straight out.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
They're interested in destroying a country and a people. That's it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's their philosophy. Israel a little bit more complicated, isn't it.
And I will come back and go through it a
little bit and share some thoughts with you because this
this parade yesterday of Israeli nationalists going through Jerusalem by
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the way, through the Muslim neighborhoods of Jerusalem, chanting death
to the Arabs, that's kind of tough. I'm sharing with you.
You know my thoughts on this, and it comes from
and I said, Hamas, And I'm blaming Israel more than
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even Hamas on this. Hamas is a straight out terrorist organization.
As they said, all they care about is the destruction
of Israel, simple, that's it. And they will kill anybody
and everybody. They don't care if it's a child, they'll
blow up anybody. Terrorists straight out was Israel justified and
going in and attacking absolutely the worst attack, the worst
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killing of the Jew since the Holocaust happened October seventh.
All right, With that being said, now it's reached the
point where the word proportional is being used again. Now,
every time Israel was bombed or attacked or some terrorists act,
they would come right back and attack, whether it was
Lebanon or Sirih or the West Bank, wherever the attack,
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wherever the terrorists came from.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Boom right back.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Israel would either bomb, take out the building or the family,
a home or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And everybody was screaming proportional, proportional.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The world was screaming proportional, which I thought was a
croc because let's say a bomb goes off and some
school teacher is injured. Does that mean Israel has to
come back and bomb a school that where the school
teacher is injured. That's proportional, that is what they do,
will come back. Israel didn't believe in that, says, oh no, no, no,
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you don't do that. And I always thought that Israel
was right on on that one. This proportional is just crap.
But you reach the point where there's mass starvation, where
you see children literally starving to death, then you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Go, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You know at what point is that line crossed into
a crime against humanity. Civilians are not to be targeted. Now,
Israel says, that is that civilians are not being targeted.
They're going after Hamas leadership and HAMAS command and control
centers and hamas warehousing of munitions, and they're collateral damage
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to civilians. Well, the international aid people. He's interesting, Israel
has never been able to point and said, look at that.
There's the weapons. There are the pieces of machine guns
that we bombed. Interestingly enough, I have not yet seen that.
I have not seen pieces of Hamas after a bombing
took place or after an attack. There is no proof
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at all going on other than death of children, hospital
destroyed and all the international overseeing, for example, the AID
International aid workers who say Israel's alleg that Hamas is
stealing the aid and using it to sell on the
black market to get cash to buy munitions, and they're
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saying that's not true.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Israel says, it is no evidence at this point that
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
So as you look at kids who, as I said earlier,
their thighs are as big as their ankles, and they
literally are on the edge of starvation because there is
no food, much less a place to live or stay,
or sanitation or water. I want you to take a
look at pictures from the Holocaust of Jews in concentration camps.
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They look awfully similar. People who were work to death
and starved to death during World War Two. My grandparents
weren't starved to death. My grandparents went right into the
gas chamber because they were too old to work. They
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were in their fifties when they died, when they perished
at Auschwitz. But if you look at the pictures of
those who survived and you see those emaciated figures, they
called them musselbin. That was the name of these figures
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that were stick figures. That was the name in German,
these stick figures that you don't know how they ever survived.
As a matter of fact, a lot of them didn't.
You know that when the camps were liberated and they
fed these people, if they fed them too much, they died.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The human body couldn't take food to the point.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Where if you're starving to death, I had no idea.
And you had hordes of them after being liberated, And
you compare the two pictures of people starving to death
and people starving to death, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Go, how does Israel, How does Israel do this?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Is it justified in defense? Well, defense certainly is justified.
And the problem is Hamas will do anything Israel, the
government that Netanyahu in the war government, the war Cabinet,
is prepared to in order to take out Hamas and
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its leadership and its military capability.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, I'll buy that legitimate And they're prepared to have
hundreds of thousands of people die.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Hamas is willing to let everybody die in Gaza as
long as they retain power. I mean, there won't be
anybody left. Hamas will be representing themselves and they will
never cut loose and Hamas at this point, what they
have to do is they simply have to let the
hostages go, and they won't because that's the only card
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they hold, are the hostages, nothing else. So as I
look at this, and I'm looking this coming from a
country that came out of the ashes of the Holocaust,
and then if you've ever been there and you see
the racism that actually does happen, Arabs are second class citizens,
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Black Jews are treated. There are some African American Jews
that go African Israeli Jews that come from Africa, they
go back thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Blacks are not treated as well. Arabs are certainly not
treated as well. So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Doesn't matter how a country is established, why under what circumstances?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Racism does not stop in this world?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Does it? Just like everybody else? All right, guys, we're
done coming up, Gary and Shannon. I know that was
an up way to go, but that really got me
yesterday really got me when I saw this. All right,
we'll catch you tomorrow when we do this all over again. Amy,
wake up call with Will Neil and I come aboard
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KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. It is a Tuesday morning,
May twenty seven. As we continue on with the show,
it is time for as we do every Tuesday at
this time, we do the Tech Segment with Rich Demurrow.
Rich seen on KTLA every day, Rich on Tech every Saturday.
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Here on KFI at eleven am to two pm, Instagram at,
Rich on.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Tech website, Rich on tech dot TV. Good morning, Rich,
Good morning to Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, last week we talked about the event that you
went to, the Google event.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
If I'm not mistaken, yes, and so.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Okay, so what came out of that, because I know
you anticipate and then what actually happens and then you
report on what came out and you go, ooh, let
me tell you, Let me tell you, folks, this happens.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So do we have any great news there? Well?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think for the takeaway is obviously that Google was
forced into AI by CHATGYBT even though they'd been working
on it for a long time. They forced their hand
into kind of releasing all these new products and services
and whatever that to take advantage of AI. And now
Google is saying, look, okay, the last couple of years
we've been dipping our toes. Now we are really showing
(01:27):
off the fact that we know what we're doing with AI.
We already have all the base knowledge of the Internet
because we've been doing that really well for twenty five years,
and now we're going to supercharge everything that we've done
and make it AI to the limit, and so things too.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Goh, yeah, yeah, please go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
No, yeah, I'm I mean, look, Gemini is their version
of AI. They're putting that into every single product. And
then I think for consumers the main thing to know
is twofold number one. This new AI mode is in Google.
We've talked about it before on the show because a
couple of months ago I said how cool it was.
It was an experiment. I guess it's been so good
(02:06):
that now they're like almost replacing their search with it.
So when you're searching, if you see that little tab
or button that says AI mode, tap it. It is incredible.
You can ask really complex questions that nobody's ever asked
the Internet before and still get answers. So it goes
wavyond keywords. And then on the iPhone there's a really
cool feature now called Gemini Live. You can share the
(02:28):
video from your phone's camera, so you can basically have
AI take a look at something. And so, for instance,
I was trying to figure out my sprinkler system. I
just pointed my camera at the sprinkler system in my
yard and like ask questions about it. Hey, what does
this button do? How do I adjust this? What do
I need to know here? And it's like having the
smartest person answer your questions.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Who knows your sprinkler system?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, and everything else in the world, I mean right
into the radio show and he said, rich, nobody could
tell me what these two little connectors were for on
my new car. I pointed AI at it and asked,
and instantly it explained what those are four he said,
this is this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So you have.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Different companies doing different versions of AI, and give me
an idea, you chat.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
ChiPT is one of the first people out.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean, they basically invented or created the concept. What
do these other companies do that IT doesn't do? And
can they be proprietary about what they've developed?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, it's interesting because someone like, Okay, so there's a
I mean, obviously there's a bunch of companies all doing this.
You've got the main ones like chat GBT open AI.
You've got Microsoft, which is using chat GBT technology underlying.
You've got Google, which has Gemini. You've got Grock, which
is part of you know, Elon Musk's Empire of Things
(03:54):
and that's doing it as well. You've got deep Seek
out of China, You've got Mistrol out of France. Uh,
and then you've got Meta, you know which owns Facebook.
They're doing it as well, and they've built it into
all of their products. So the proprietary nature is interesting
because some companies are taking more of an open source
aspect to this. A lot of these companies are sort
(04:16):
of secretive about the you know what powers the AI,
but someone like Meta is opening up their AI whereas
anyone can use it to program what they want to do.
So they're all taking a slightly different approach. But at
the end of the day, Bill, I think the big
trend is, you know, companies want to use this to
power things and to power systems that they're building, and
(04:37):
so of course they can do that and pay these
companies on the back end. But I think for consumers,
the real sticky factor at this point is that these
AI bots are getting to know the people that are
using them. And so, for instance, I was reading an
article and basically the thesis is that the more these
AI bots get to know the customer, the more customized
(04:57):
they become, and the less you're going to want to
switch to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
A different AI chatbop.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
What I've been hearing.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And my daughter is the one I go to on
this one because she's my tech nerd and is getting
her master's degree in cybersecurity or whatever the hell she's studying.
And that is AI is wiping out entire sectors of industry.
I mean just across the board. Any research done, any
analysis going to be done. In the legal field, for example,
(05:30):
a first year associate comes in and they are put
on research done. There is no time. And I was
reading some articles saying that there really are no entry
level jobs anymore because they're all going to be done,
which means as the medium level management and the upper
level management retire, there'll be no one there that has
(05:53):
the experience that can run companies.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, there was we talked about on KTLA today is
this article and op ed in the New York Times,
which you may have seen by one of the executives
at linked In saying, look, AI is definitely disrupting the
entry level job sector. Like you said, paralegals, anyone that's
getting their first job. And obviously we've got a lot
(06:17):
of college grads getting into the job market right now,
and they're not all too excited about it because the
jobs that they used to use to either learn the
ropes or you know, just get their foot in the
door are no longer available, or they've changed because you
just don't need someone to do those. Like you said,
AI is really good at simple tasks like analyzing large
(06:40):
amounts of data and very simple things that used to
take a person, you know, time and energy to do,
and AI can now do it in seconds. So I
guess the thesis of the LinkedIn article was basically that
jobs still have to hire these people, but help them
work with AI, because otherwise, if we don't get these
young people sort of into the folds, there's going to
(07:03):
be a deficit in the future of people that can
have these higher level jobs that understand the whole company.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's crazy my daughter with her bachelor's degree can't get
an entry level job in the field, which.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Is why she's doing your master's degree.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And I'm very proud of the fact that she's going
to have a master's degree and will not be able
to get a job.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know, I think she's taken the approach of like,
let's see what happens, because right now everything has been
thrown up in the air. You know, companies are still
trying to figure this out. And look, Bill, if you're
a company, what are you trying to do. You're trying
to save money. And so if someone from your department
in it is saying, hey, look, AI can do this,
and it can replace these people, and it's more efficient
(07:46):
and it's this price. Of course you're going to do that. Now,
we don't know what the long term sort of effect
of all of this is, whether companies come back and say, Okay,
this works, this doesn't work, we need people for this still.
So I think it's all still up in the air. Yes,
it is definitely changing, for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh do I take an opportunity now to hustle a
job for my daughter Neil?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I don't think I've ever done that, have I? Is
that even allowed?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Is that even allowed? If anybody if anybody needs an
entry level person, just write me, and you probably won't
hire my daughter either, like everybody else.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Won't, or any new trainee or intern who has good
computer skills. She's going out of her mind.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And you know, based on that LinkedIn article which I read,
or that executive, she is not alone.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
She is not alone. It's really tough.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Okay, let's talk about the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five Edge.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm assuming that's a new phone.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And you know, when you talk about the newer, better
sort of the blastow five thousand of the iPhones which
I have, I'm getting the idea that Samsung is moving
a head of the curve, that they're more advanced and
are working more in terms of newer technology.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, I would say that they probably try more things
for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, good answer. Okay, So with that, oh we're gonna
have a good time with this. Uh what's your what's
your go to?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Do you do Android or iPhone or both?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Well? I mean, I look, I carry three phones because
I've got to answer questions on the radio show about
all of them. And uh, you know you've got you've
got iPhone is obviously very popular. You've got Samsung probably
the second most popular, and then Google's Pixel is a
very popular phone as well. So h and that's and
(09:44):
that one i'd say is probably gaining the most new
fans because it's really clean, it works really well. The camera,
obviously everyone knows, is really good. But you know, when
it comes to the it's interesting when you ask that
question of Apple versus Samsung. So Samsung definitely tries more
things like this new phone is coming out on Friday.
(10:07):
It's the Galaxy S twenty five Edge. It's super slim.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks now.
It is undeniably fun and different because it's a really
thin and lightweight phone, but it's very high powered, like
it has all the features you need. The two downsides
that I have noticed are the zoom because they can't
have as good of a zoom lens as maybe if
(10:28):
you've got the iPhone Pro or all the other ones
that have a dedicated zoom lens. This does not have that,
so the zoom is a little bit iffy.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And also the battery life.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
It definitely runs down a little bit faster than some
of the other phones out there, but at the same time,
it's super thin and lightweight, and so people are going
to see that as kind of refreshing. And we know
that Apple is expected to do something very similar with
a thin and light iPhone later this year, maybe nicknamed
the Air or something like that, the Ultra, who knows.
But my point is with Apple, they they have a
(11:00):
much different approach because they control everything from what's inside
the phone to the software, and that leads them to
be able to do very different things when it comes
to power efficiency, when it comes to features, the camera, Siri.
The way things work on the iPhone is just much
more integrated than the way they work on Android phones
(11:20):
because Android has a mix of all different parts and
all different software and all different manufacturers, and so it's
just a different approach to a very similar problem.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Okay, Yeah, we're probably gonna have that conversation, you know, obviously.
You know, I'm an iPhone guy, and I won't even
try anybody any other phone because I just don't want
to learn it. I just don't have the ability. I
just learn how to turn my phone on, which I'm
assuming a lot of people have a problem with the technology.
All right, Gadget alert real quickly only have a couple
of minutes and I always love gadgets.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Oh this is great. This is a super simple, fun
new gadget. It's not I guess you can't even call
a gadget, but it is a power cable from a
company called twelve South. And what they have done is
they've made a cable that on one side is a
plug and on the other side is USBC plug. So
(12:14):
basically it's a power cord, that's what they call it.
And it the best part about this thing is that
you're not looking. You know, when you get a power
cable at your house, you need to get the plug
that goes into the wall, and then you have to
get the power cord itself, right the USB cable and
you plug goes in, and it's always too short.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So if you have kids like I do that always
want their iPad plugged in they're moving around the house
or sitting on the couch or sitting on the bed,
they're sitting on the floor, this thing comes in a
ten foot length, so you can sit there on the
couch and actually have your phone plugged in and use
it without pulling this thing out of the wall. So
it's just a super simple gadget that you know, it's
(12:50):
not new to have a power cable like this, but
it is kind of refreshing that it works with all
your different devices and it just is simple. So forty
dollars or fifty dollars if you want that ten foot length.
But I love this thing. I've been playing with it
for a week. Just came out and it does make
life a lot easier, especially for travel. You just plug,
you know, one thing to bring that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Can't you buy like a twenty foot table out there someplace.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yes, you can, but you know, most of the time
it's just a cable, so it might not have the
plug part of it.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And then you wonder.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know a lot of people are also using plugs
that are not powerful enough for their phone, Like they're
not taking full advantage because they're using an older plug,
you know, like that power adapter that goes into the
wall might be from a previous device that doesn't give
you as much juice. This one has thirty watts, which
is plenty for almost every gadget nowadays. You know, some
laptops will take that as a trickle charge. I know
(13:47):
it's getting a little technical, but you know it depends
on the wattage of the device, but all the phones
and things like that will charge really fast with a
thirty walk.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
All right, rich will catch you this weekend Saturday morning
tomorrow on KTLA and or Saturday eleven am to two
pm here on KFI and next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
All right, you have a good one, Oh thank you.
Take care.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Now. I want to spend some a couple of minutes
talking about something I have not done in a little while,
and that is refer to what happened yesterday. Yesterday there
was a march in Jerusalem where thousands of Israeli nationalists
were chanting death to Arabs. It's tough to see, it
(14:34):
really is. And what's going on with Gaza is also
very tough. What's for any of us to look at?
And I come from someone whose grandparents died in the Holocaust,
My dad's almost his entire family was murdered in the Holocaust,
(14:56):
so obviously I am biased.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But then you reach point where you know what's going
on over there.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Israel is engaging in criminal acts, a crime against humanity,
straight out straight out starving people to death, not letting
aid to under either the guys or the reason is
that the aid is being used by Hamas, being sold
to get cash to continue with the war.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And that may or may not be true, whether Hamas
is co opting the aid.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
You've got world organizations, international aid organizations that are there
saying that's absolutely not true, that they are distributing the
aid and it's reaching the right people and Hamas is
not getting it. And you've seen those pictures of those
starving kids, that their thighs are as big as their
(15:56):
ankles and they're starving to death. There is no economy
in Gaza. It does not exist. There is no infrastructure
in Gaza, it does not exist. You have over two
million we the world has over two million people in
Gaza that rely almost one hundred percent on foreign.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Aid coming in to eat. Otherwise they starve.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
And Israel controls everything and anything that goes into Gaza.
And so whether people live or die or starve to
death is at the whim of the government of Israel.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And it is so tough to see what's going on now.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Israel says when it attacks, for example, and takes out
which it did, eighty percent of the infrastructure, well one
hundred percent of the infrastructure, but eighty percent of the
buildings and move entire population from place to place to place,
saying this is a safe zone over here. You go
down to Kunis, and then a week later or two
(17:07):
weeks later, no, no, we're gonna bomb Kunis and take
it out, and you have to go to this section.
And then a month later, no, no, you go to
this section. There are people that have been displaced seven
eight times, taking their whatever goods they have, their children,
their mattresses, and moving into those areas until the next
(17:28):
time Israel says no.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You can't be there.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It is What is happening is absolutely horrific. And you
have two sides, both of which are completely insane. And
I am actually going to at this point blame Israel more.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
For what's going on.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I start, how do I do that? How do I
blame Israel more than Hamas. Israel legitimately came in in
defense and it hasn't argue we have to defend ourselves
against Hamas. This is an organization that is dedicated. Its
first thought is the destruction of Israel. The second thought
(18:10):
is the destruction of Israel, and that's what they're there for,
not to feed the people.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Even though it's a government, not to educate the kids.
It is to destroy Israel. There, it is, it stops there.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So why am I not blaming Hamas Because Hamas to
me is a straight out terrorist organization, that's all they are,
straight out.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
They're interested in destroying a country and a people. That's it.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That's their philosophy. Israel a little bit more complicated, isn't it.
And I will come back and go through it a
little bit and share some thoughts with you because this
this parade yesterday of Israeli nationalists going through Jerusalem by
(19:00):
the way, through the Muslim neighborhoods of Jerusalem, chanting death
to the Arabs, that's kind of tough. I'm sharing with you.
You know my thoughts on this, and it comes from
and I said, Hamas, And I'm blaming Israel more than
(19:20):
even Hamas on this. Hamas is a straight out terrorist organization.
As they said, all they care about is the destruction
of Israel, simple, that's it. And they will kill anybody
and everybody. They don't care if it's a child, they'll
blow up anybody. Terrorists straight out was Israel justified and
going in and attacking absolutely the worst attack, the worst
(19:41):
killing of the Jew since the Holocaust happened October seventh.
All right, With that being said, now it's reached the
point where the word proportional is being used again. Now,
every time Israel was bombed or attacked or some terrorists act,
they would come right back and attack, whether it was
Lebanon or Sirih or the West Bank, wherever the attack,
(20:03):
wherever the terrorists came from.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Boom right back.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Israel would either bomb, take out the building or the family,
a home or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And everybody was screaming proportional, proportional.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
The world was screaming proportional, which I thought was a
croc because let's say a bomb goes off and some
school teacher is injured. Does that mean Israel has to
come back and bomb a school that where the school
teacher is injured. That's proportional, that is what they do,
will come back. Israel didn't believe in that, says, oh no, no, no,
(20:34):
you don't do that. And I always thought that Israel
was right on on that one. This proportional is just crap.
But you reach the point where there's mass starvation, where
you see children literally starving to death, then you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Go, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You know at what point is that line crossed into
a crime against humanity. Civilians are not to be targeted. Now,
Israel says, that is that civilians are not being targeted.
They're going after Hamas leadership and HAMAS command and control
centers and hamas warehousing of munitions, and they're collateral damage
(21:22):
to civilians. Well, the international aid people. He's interesting, Israel
has never been able to point and said, look at that.
There's the weapons. There are the pieces of machine guns
that we bombed. Interestingly enough, I have not yet seen that.
I have not seen pieces of Hamas after a bombing
took place or after an attack. There is no proof
(21:46):
at all going on other than death of children, hospital
destroyed and all the international overseeing, for example, the AID
International aid workers who say Israel's alleg that Hamas is
stealing the aid and using it to sell on the
black market to get cash to buy munitions, and they're
(22:08):
saying that's not true.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Israel says, it is no evidence at this point that
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
So as you look at kids who, as I said earlier,
their thighs are as big as their ankles, and they
literally are on the edge of starvation because there is
no food, much less a place to live or stay,
or sanitation or water. I want you to take a
look at pictures from the Holocaust of Jews in concentration camps.
(22:43):
They look awfully similar. People who were work to death
and starved to death during World War Two. My grandparents
weren't starved to death. My grandparents went right into the
gas chamber because they were too old to work. They
(23:08):
were in their fifties when they died, when they perished
at Auschwitz. But if you look at the pictures of
those who survived and you see those emaciated figures, they
called them musselbin. That was the name of these figures
(23:29):
that were stick figures. That was the name in German,
these stick figures that you don't know how they ever survived.
As a matter of fact, a lot of them didn't.
You know that when the camps were liberated and they
fed these people, if they fed them too much, they died.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The human body couldn't take food to the point.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Where if you're starving to death, I had no idea.
And you had hordes of them after being liberated, And
you compare the two pictures of people starving to death
and people starving to death, and you.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Go, how does Israel, How does Israel do this?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Is it justified in defense? Well, defense certainly is justified.
And the problem is Hamas will do anything Israel, the
government that Netanyahu in the war government, the war Cabinet,
is prepared to in order to take out Hamas and
(24:34):
its leadership and its military capability.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, I'll buy that legitimate And they're prepared to have
hundreds of thousands of people die.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Hamas is willing to let everybody die in Gaza as
long as they retain power. I mean, there won't be
anybody left. Hamas will be representing themselves and they will
never cut loose and Hamas at this point, what they
have to do is they simply have to let the
hostages go, and they won't because that's the only card
(25:08):
they hold, are the hostages, nothing else. So as I
look at this, and I'm looking this coming from a
country that came out of the ashes of the Holocaust,
and then if you've ever been there and you see
the racism that actually does happen, Arabs are second class citizens,
(25:34):
Black Jews are treated. There are some African American Jews
that go African Israeli Jews that come from Africa, they
go back thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Blacks are not treated as well. Arabs are certainly not
treated as well. So what does that tell you?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Doesn't matter how a country is established, why under what circumstances?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Racism does not stop in this world?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Does it? Just like everybody else? All right, guys, we're
done coming up, Gary and Shannon. I know that was
an up way to go, but that really got me
yesterday really got me when I saw this. All right,
we'll catch you tomorrow when we do this all over again. Amy,
wake up call with Will Neil and I come aboard
(26:17):
at six o'clock and and Kono always here to make
the show's run.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
This is KFI am so oh, before I forget, I'm
taking phone calls. Oh oh yeah, phone calls.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
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off the air, and you can right now.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm going to start in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
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Speaker 1 (26:41):
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Speaker 1 (27:03):
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