August 26, 2025 • 23 mins
(Tuesday Aug 26,2025)
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Pixel 10 hands-on, Facebook privacy alert, restaurant pushes back on Google AI, Apple TV+ price hike, landline reinvented for kids, and Chuck’s Arcade. Cars are so expensive that buyers need 7-year loans. They’re coming… AI-driven schools… no teachers, no classrooms.
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Pixel 10 hands-on, Facebook privacy alert, restaurant pushes back on Google AI, Apple TV+ price hike, landline reinvented for kids, and Chuck’s Arcade. Cars are so expensive that buyers need 7-year loans. They’re coming… AI-driven schools… no teachers, no classrooms.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're list Saints KFI AM six forty. The bill handles
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forty bill handle Here it is a Taco Tuesday, August
twenty six and a couple of big stories. We are
looking at the president's sign and executive order directing the
(00:21):
Justice Department to investigate incidents of flag burning, saying that
that incites violence and riots. And we'll see where that goes.
Because flag burning is a constitutional right. It's a First
Amendment right guaranteed as far as Supreme Court is concerned.
So I don't know where he's going with this one.
I think there's some technical stuff he can do, like burning.
(00:43):
Borden's against burning on public property or burning anything. Okay,
we'll certainly talk about that over the next few days.
In the meantime, let's move into Tech Tuesday with rich Dumurrow,
who has heard every Saturday here on KFI Live as
opposed to being dead eleven am to two, and he's
on KTLA every day.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Got it love to you know, there are a lot
of dead people in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'd love to talk to and instagram at rich on
tech website, richontech Dot TV.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right, rich, let's start moving.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Let me see the stories restaurant restaurants pushing back on
Google AI explain that please Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I thought this one was really funny. There's a restaurant
in Missouri that basically posted on their Facebook page, please
do not use Google AI to find our specials, because
basically people are you know, Google AI shows up at
the top of your Google search results.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People probably google.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The name of this pizza place, Stephanina's, and they probably say,
you know, stephanina specials, And at the top it probably
has an AI overview that says, oh, yeah, you can
get a large pizza for the price of a small
if people call in for this pizza and the pizza
place like, no, we don't have that special and so
it's now saying, do not use AI for our specials.
(02:05):
And I just think this is a such a telling
story because we are all using AI, or many of
us are, and I'm not kidding. It makes up stuff.
So much of the time people just think it's the
right thing, and it's not unless you know differently.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Is this a hallucinan a hallucination that's being created by AI?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, in a way, Yeah, I guess so it is.
I mean, AI is known to hallucinate because it gets
all this different stuff and just kind of mixes it together.
And a lot of the times it's great and it's right,
but if you really look a little bit deeper, no
matter what you're doing, whether it's creating a picture, whether
you're doing research, like there's a little tiny nuggets, it
gets wrong sometimes, you know. And for this, I think
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what's happening is, you know, it's just finding a lot
of information on the web about pizza specials and the
name of this place, and when it scrapes all that
information and it's kind of just a big jumble of
data that it's trying to make sense of and it
just is not.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Getting it right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And that's not to say that they haven't or will
have that special. It's just it's not going on now,
I'm assuming, and the AI is just saying.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It is, and it's just dead wrong. Do I have
that right?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah? I think it's two parts.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think at some point maybe they ran a similar special.
But I think at the other side of things, AI
is just taking all the information about the specials, all
the information that knows about pizza, all the information that
knows about this pizza place and just jumbling it all
together in this big stew and trying to spit something
out at the top of Google to make sense. And
it's just not true. None of it's true.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, this one is personal for me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Apple TV Plus a price fight because I am a
subscriber to Apple TV Plus. So what am I looking
at in terms of more money?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What am I going to pay?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, Bill, you are now going to pay thirty percent
more every single month, which equates to three dollars a month.
But I mean, look, I'm saying it a little facetiously.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Three dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It's not gonna make or break a lot of subscribers
to Apple tv Plus. But it's part of a bigger
trend that I always say, we have three things in
life life death taxes, or all right, we have two
things in life, three things death taxes, and the price
of streaming services will go up regularly. It's just like
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cable TV back in the day. So we're talking. Apple
TV Plus started at five bucks a month. It was
like a no brainer. They gave it to people for
like a year free, and then it just slowly but
surely the price just keeps ratcheting up. Went to six nine,
nine ninety nine and now twelve ninety nine. And you know,
I'm not getting that value out of Apple TV Plus.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But of course I will probably remain a subscriber since
I have the Apple one, which has like ten thousand
things that Apple offers for like forty bucks a month.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Also, I'm looking at the price of everything else. And
when you talk about price creep if you are like
me and I am really into these streaming services. So
I have Hulu and Netflix, and I have Apple TV
and Discovery Plus, and we just keep on going and going.
(05:25):
I'm paying buckets of money, and the last thing I
need is three dollars per and all of a sudden
over eight or ten platforms or even five platforms, which
a lot of people have. Man, you're talking about some money.
I mean what am I What is Netflix without commercials?
(05:47):
I don't even eighteen dollars a month something ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm at eighteen bucks a month.
That's for the I think that's for the standard. The
premiums even higher because I'm up to like thirty four
dollars a month for Netflix I'm paying for an extra member.
Are you doing that yet? I mean, I'm paying for
like another member of my family to have Netflix for free.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That's how I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't handle it.
All I know is I write the checks, and it's uh, so.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You're writing a check to Netflix.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I don't know we're paying. I have no idea how
it's being paid. No, I don't write checks. I mean
I write the checks. That's rhetorical. I pay for it. Okay, God, Oh,
that's like a term people use.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Probably until about six months ago.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I wrote the checks and now and then I just
got tired of people looking at me and saying, you
old old man.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Stop it.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh, like at the grocery store, when they like the
person who I actually had seen that, Like a couple
of weeks ago, Like at the grocery store, someone was
writing a check. My kids were like, what is happening
right now? And I had to explain that I don't
know why they're writing a check, but they were anyway, Look,
the bottom line is all these streaming services, as far
as I can tell, every single time I get renewal,
(07:01):
the price is going up. Like whether you know, I'm
trying to pay now, and this is the cheapest way
to subscribe to these things is the year in advance, right,
Like Disney Plus, I paid for like the whole year,
but of course I got the renewal notice and it's like, oh,
it's going from one forty for the year to one
sixty for the year.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Same thing with all these services. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Apple TV Plus does not let you pay in a
year in advance as far as I know. But again,
this price creep, like you said, is real, and people
are deciding, you know, which services am I getting the
most use out of which one should I cancel and
just pick up again when a good show comes out
on them?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, Chuck E Cheese is Chuck E Cheese is now
Chuck's Arcade.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I went to a birthday party at Chuck E.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Cheese's a few months ago, maybe a year ago, and
it was a.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Birthday party for a two year old or something.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
This is my daughter's husband's nephew, I think. In any case,
I think it's the last audio animatronic check Uck E
Cheese show that exists in the country. And the Ridge,
yeah north Ridge, and it is great story there.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah. The technology is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Do you remember Clutch Cargo the cartoon, No clutch Cargo
the cartoon only the mouth worked. They that was it.
It was pretty basic. This one was pretty basic. That's
for starters. Not much there and you and you said
(08:32):
that they have a new concept no pizza.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So this is a new place I visited called Chuck's Arcade.
This is a spinoff brand from Chuck E. Cheese and
the first California location just opened at the Braham All
So on Friday. I went there. I was one of
the first people in there. And it is basically bill
like an arcade you might remember from your youth, right, Like,
you go in there, there's a bunch of games and
(08:58):
you just play games. Of course, you know there's prizes.
There's there's no food, but there's like, you know, candy,
stuff like that merchandise. And the cool thing is you
know all the games. You know, they got like retro
games like the pac Man and stuff, but they also
have the new high tech games and also the Claw games,
which apparently all the kids are into, including mine. But
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the thing is about this is that they have the
old animatronics. Each location that they're building, they're you know,
cause they've decommissioned all the animatronics from all the locations
of Chuck E Cheese except for that one in Northridge,
and so they're putting one of those animatronic guys into
each one of these locations, but behind glass and it
doesn't move. It's just like a museum piece almost. But
(09:41):
it's cool. I mean, this is a great place for
kids to go and play adults. It's basically for people
of all ages. So adults now that remember Chuck E
Cheese as a kid, and just like our kids can
go in there. Kids can go in with their parents. Teenagers
can go in there after school. Most of them are
in malls. They've got about ten of them open so
far are and it's just kind of a new way
(10:02):
to you know, expand the Chuck E Cheese brand.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, that makes sense when you think about it. Because
they do birthday parties there. The one I went to
was a birthday party. And the pizza they serve there,
which every year wins first prize from the National Association
of the Worst Pizza on the planet, and it's the arcade.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's what they go for.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The kids love the arcades and they spend a fortune
because mom and dad give them buckets of money and
it's not particularly cheap. And so I'm assuming how much
did you say your kid went there?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, so no, I can't tell you how much the
games cost at the arcade because since I was media,
they let me play, you know, like it's all those cards.
Now by the way, there's no more quarters. It's so
it's like tap cards.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So it's tough to tell because you buy the anyway
you buy the card, you charge it up, and then
you use it. Each game uses a certain amount. But look,
the reality I mean, I asked Chukichia, is that is
this affordable? And they said, look, it's you know, compared
to a lot of forms of entertainment out there. It's
all how much you want to spend. You want to
put twenty bucks in the card, you play twenty bucks,
you want to play forty dollars, you know, but kids
beg their parents for more and more. Look, it's just
(11:15):
it's another way of them to expand this brand name
that so many people love and have a lot of
memories for too. But again, no pizza, no restaurant, no
birthday parties inside the Chuck's Arcade it's just purely an arcade.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
All it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And by the way, their argument that there are other
forms of entertainment that costs more, that's true, like front
row seats at Hamilton when it comes around, it's cheaper
than that.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, yes, it is slightly cheaper than a Taylor Swift
concert too. Yeah, so they do have that going for them.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And by the way, when I talk about quarters going
in the machine, even I'm aware that that's just a
term that I know.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's cards.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So there, Yes, I know, Bill. I remember Vegas had coins. Remember,
I mean you go to Vegas and you had a
bucket of coins. That's gone.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh I didn't know that you can't put coins in
the slot machines anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I mean maybe at like a circus circus they have
like a coin one, but no, the restaur all the
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's like just dollars. I guess I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't gamble, so I have absolutely no idea. Yeah,
well I gamble every morning. Yeah, I gamble every morning,
waking up and coming here there's my gamble. All right, Rich,
we'll catch you next week and over the weekend Saturday,
right here, on KFI at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You have a good one.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You two all right?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
All right?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Cars man, When people bought a car with a five
year loan, I went, wow, that is that's not such
a good idea because cars depreciate really quickly. And then
the sixth year loan, now that to be Yeah, that
got to be ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That was the upper upper end.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now more people take a six year loan than anything
else over thirty percent and seven year loans are not unusual.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You can buy those, and they're now tinkering.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
The finance folks are tinkering with eight year loans. And
it's affordable because the longer you have to pay off
a car, the cheaper the loan payments are.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Although if you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Add the interest up then it becomes pretty expensive if
you added to the cost of the car. But that's
over eight years or seven years or six years. Who
pays attention to that. But here is the problem. You
kind of like the fact that the price never goes up.
It's like a mortgage, right, you have a fixed rate
mortgage and five years from now it's going to be
(13:53):
the same. But here's what's the difference with cars, And
mainly people have no choice.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Because otherwise you can't ford it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, when I started buying cars, you know, back
in the twenties, it was I'm talking about a century ago,
it was a three year loan.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That's that was what it was.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
You paid off your car in three years, and you
weren't upside down. The car ended up being worth more
than what you owed, which today is impossible. So here
is the problem with buying a new car where you're
upside down. You buy a home, for example, Let's say
you spend a million dollars on the home and get
a fixed rate loan, and you're gonna pay the same
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rate and it's pretty expensive. Your home does not depreciate
twenty percent the second you close escrow.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You buy a.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Home for a million dollars and you sign the paperwork
and there it is. It's worth eight hundred thousand dollars
now or seven hundred thousand dollars cars.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's what happens. And if you are.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
If you buy a new car, you're kind of crazy
these days love new cars. But man, you know, the
difference between a car three years off a lease leases
are still three years that is, you know, that makes
more sense you're not upside down. What is upside down
always more owing more money than what the car is worth.
(15:17):
And by the end of the five years or six years,
you've paid it off and the car is worth nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And if you want.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
To switch cars at the fourth year or third year,
you're done. You can't do it at all. You can't
do it. So you kind of four to three year
or four year purchase agreement alone. So you have to
go six years. You have to go seven years. And
I was talking to Anne. She has a six year loan,
(15:47):
which is normal. Now, Cono, you have a car, right,
you have like a Ugo or an Atlas. My friend,
I don't even know what an Atlas is.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's a bit wagon.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's a Volkswagon.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, okay, car, all right, And I'm assuming, of course
you took a loan on it, right, Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Five here, six, I had to go higher, but we
pay higher. We'd pay more than what are what to
do every single time? Okay, So I'll pay it off
in six but technically it is a seven.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Year you have a seven year loan. Okay, let's go
around because I'm just curious what we do. I know
Ann has a six year loan on her car, Amy,
do you have a.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Loan on your car? I just have a really old car.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That means you paid it off. Yeah, oh, good for you.
That's smart. And your car is, what twenty eight years old?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's literally twenty years old. Wow, and it's still adorable.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That goes to show you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's the other thing is that cars are so well
built to it. They talk about, Oh, the old cars
are so terrific. They were made out of real steel.
Look at how often you had to repair them and
how long they lasted. To get one hundred thousand miles
out of a car from a car twenty five years
ago if you bought it new, certainly is not the
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same as a car today. They're more efficient, they last longer,
the technology is better.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Will do you have a loan on your car? I'm
also paid off thirteen years old? Thirteen year old car?
That actually that makes sense. Yeah, that's smart. Actually, Neil,
do you have a loan on your car?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah? I buy used and I think it's a four
year loan.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, so you're down at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But you buy a used car now, you're gonna pay
a lot more interest on a used car than you
are going to pay on a new car.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But it makes a lot to.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Say a new car, I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I mean, you can afford old.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It just always treats me well.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I drive a truck, okay, and I've switched to leasing,
and the last two three times I always bought. And
the one benefit thing about leasing is at the end
of the three years if you buy a three years lease,
all right, car's done, your finish. You're on to the
next one. But you don't even know what the interest
rate is on a lease. You have no idea what
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you're paying. All you know is you're paying X dollars
a month. And my next car is going to be
a used car because, frankly, I because I wanted to
be a big guy, and I have it extraordinarily small.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I had to get a brand new car and show
the world that, oh, look at me, aren't I important?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
You know what you actually changed the way I looked
at cars. You told me that expect don't use it
as an investment. Expect it to expect to have a
payment every month. And you think of it as a utility.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Right, like you pay your utility bill every month. That's
not an investment. The same thing with your car. It's
what you pay for transportation every month.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Now, I will run it into the ground. I will
have it just like I mean will I'll keep it
and keep it.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's when it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That is when buying a car makes a lot of
sense a new car.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
If you're going to anticipate every month to have a
payment regardless because you're going to eventually need a car
at some point.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, we're not in New York or London where a
car gets in the way. Also, Neil and I are
going to well, I am going to be Neil's guest
at the Wild Fork Restaurant.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
In Long Wild Fork Foods.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's a restaurant, it's not a restaurant, you're right, I'm sorry,
I'm yeah, the Wild Fork Foods store, which has extraordinary
meats and proteins and desserts. Anyway, Neil is broadcasting there
on Saturday two to five o'clock, would be doing the
Fork Report broadcast at the Wild Fork, and I will
be there. Well, I was about to say that, but
(19:57):
thank you for jumping in and.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Correcting me.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
It just sounded like it was going to be this weekend,
and I thought, no, you know, no, you're okay.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Anyway, it is the sixth, and they'll be giveaways, they'll
be samples. You will enjoy Neil and I enjoying the food.
If there is a line for samples, for example, Neil
and I will be cutting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
To the front of the line.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You cut, I do and watching by cutters people.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh yeah, no, I do that purposely, so people scream.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
At me while I'm eating, while I'm eating their food
that they would get and spitting food up and spraying
it all over the front of their clothing and.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So making it sound pretty. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
It's a week from this Saturday, right, So on the sixth,
come out and hang out. It's there one year anniversary
there at their Long Beach location.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, and if you've I'm a huge fan of wold Fork.
I've been eating Wild Fork food probably fifteen years, give
or take, and it is The food is extraordinary. It
is some of the best meats you'll ever had. And
reasonably priced too. You know those high end stores that
sell meats that's ridiculous prices, Well, this meat is at
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that good and it is a fraction of the costs,
you'll you'll have a chance to taste it, and all
kinds of samples, all kinds of giveaways that we're going
to have, because that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So please join us.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Coming up next Saturday, a week from Saturday, at the
Wild Fork Store in Long Beach, and that's from two
to five Neil's broadcast. Also, I think that's it for
that one. And a quick reminder that I am taking
phone calls for Handle on the Law off the air,
(21:52):
and the numbers eight seven seven five to zero eleven fifty.
And as I take phone calls on Tuesdays and Thursdays,
never commercial or breaks or will giving you traffic, thank goodness,
or Amy with the news. It's just me and you,
and of course I have no patience, so that works
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out very well. And the number is eight seven seven
five two zero eleven fifty and Gary and Shannon are
up next tomorrow. It starts all over again with Amy
and Will five o'clock wake up call, and then Neil
and I join, and of course Cono and and make
the show run.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And that's why there's so many screw ups every morning.
Okay that Cono. I know you're blaming me for going
off on tangents and blond screws me and Ann never
screw up? Oh God ever? All right?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
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forty bill handle Here it is a Taco Tuesday, August
twenty six and a couple of big stories. We are
looking at the president's sign and executive order directing the
(00:21):
Justice Department to investigate incidents of flag burning, saying that
that incites violence and riots. And we'll see where that goes.
Because flag burning is a constitutional right. It's a First
Amendment right guaranteed as far as Supreme Court is concerned.
So I don't know where he's going with this one.
I think there's some technical stuff he can do, like burning.
(00:43):
Borden's against burning on public property or burning anything. Okay,
we'll certainly talk about that over the next few days.
In the meantime, let's move into Tech Tuesday with rich Dumurrow,
who has heard every Saturday here on KFI Live as
opposed to being dead eleven am to two, and he's
on KTLA every day.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Got it love to you know, there are a lot
of dead people in my life.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'd love to talk to and instagram at rich on
tech website, richontech Dot TV.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right, rich, let's start moving.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Let me see the stories restaurant restaurants pushing back on
Google AI explain that please Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I thought this one was really funny. There's a restaurant
in Missouri that basically posted on their Facebook page, please
do not use Google AI to find our specials, because
basically people are you know, Google AI shows up at
the top of your Google search results.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People probably google.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The name of this pizza place, Stephanina's, and they probably say,
you know, stephanina specials, And at the top it probably
has an AI overview that says, oh, yeah, you can
get a large pizza for the price of a small
if people call in for this pizza and the pizza
place like, no, we don't have that special and so
it's now saying, do not use AI for our specials.
(02:05):
And I just think this is a such a telling
story because we are all using AI, or many of
us are, and I'm not kidding. It makes up stuff.
So much of the time people just think it's the
right thing, and it's not unless you know differently.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Is this a hallucinan a hallucination that's being created by AI?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, in a way, Yeah, I guess so it is.
I mean, AI is known to hallucinate because it gets
all this different stuff and just kind of mixes it together.
And a lot of the times it's great and it's right,
but if you really look a little bit deeper, no
matter what you're doing, whether it's creating a picture, whether
you're doing research, like there's a little tiny nuggets, it
gets wrong sometimes, you know. And for this, I think
(02:51):
what's happening is, you know, it's just finding a lot
of information on the web about pizza specials and the
name of this place, and when it scrapes all that
information and it's kind of just a big jumble of
data that it's trying to make sense of and it
just is not.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Getting it right.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And that's not to say that they haven't or will
have that special. It's just it's not going on now,
I'm assuming, and the AI is just saying.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It is, and it's just dead wrong. Do I have
that right?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah? I think it's two parts.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think at some point maybe they ran a similar special.
But I think at the other side of things, AI
is just taking all the information about the specials, all
the information that knows about pizza, all the information that
knows about this pizza place and just jumbling it all
together in this big stew and trying to spit something
out at the top of Google to make sense. And
it's just not true. None of it's true.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, this one is personal for me.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Apple TV Plus a price fight because I am a
subscriber to Apple TV Plus. So what am I looking
at in terms of more money?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What am I going to pay?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, Bill, you are now going to pay thirty percent
more every single month, which equates to three dollars a month.
But I mean, look, I'm saying it a little facetiously.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Three dollars.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It's not gonna make or break a lot of subscribers
to Apple tv Plus. But it's part of a bigger
trend that I always say, we have three things in
life life death taxes, or all right, we have two
things in life, three things death taxes, and the price
of streaming services will go up regularly. It's just like
(04:35):
cable TV back in the day. So we're talking. Apple
TV Plus started at five bucks a month. It was
like a no brainer. They gave it to people for
like a year free, and then it just slowly but
surely the price just keeps ratcheting up. Went to six nine,
nine ninety nine and now twelve ninety nine. And you know,
I'm not getting that value out of Apple TV Plus.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But of course I will probably remain a subscriber since
I have the Apple one, which has like ten thousand
things that Apple offers for like forty bucks a month.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Also, I'm looking at the price of everything else. And
when you talk about price creep if you are like
me and I am really into these streaming services. So
I have Hulu and Netflix, and I have Apple TV
and Discovery Plus, and we just keep on going and going.
(05:25):
I'm paying buckets of money, and the last thing I
need is three dollars per and all of a sudden
over eight or ten platforms or even five platforms, which
a lot of people have. Man, you're talking about some money.
I mean what am I What is Netflix without commercials?
(05:47):
I don't even eighteen dollars a month something ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm at eighteen bucks a month.
That's for the I think that's for the standard. The
premiums even higher because I'm up to like thirty four
dollars a month for Netflix I'm paying for an extra member.
Are you doing that yet? I mean, I'm paying for
like another member of my family to have Netflix for free.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That's how I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't handle it.
All I know is I write the checks, and it's uh, so.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You're writing a check to Netflix.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I don't know we're paying. I have no idea how
it's being paid. No, I don't write checks. I mean
I write the checks. That's rhetorical. I pay for it. Okay, God, Oh,
that's like a term people use.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Probably until about six months ago.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I wrote the checks and now and then I just
got tired of people looking at me and saying, you
old old man.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Stop it.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh, like at the grocery store, when they like the
person who I actually had seen that, Like a couple
of weeks ago, Like at the grocery store, someone was
writing a check. My kids were like, what is happening
right now? And I had to explain that I don't
know why they're writing a check, but they were anyway, Look,
the bottom line is all these streaming services, as far
as I can tell, every single time I get renewal,
(07:01):
the price is going up. Like whether you know, I'm
trying to pay now, and this is the cheapest way
to subscribe to these things is the year in advance, right,
Like Disney Plus, I paid for like the whole year,
but of course I got the renewal notice and it's like, oh,
it's going from one forty for the year to one
sixty for the year.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Same thing with all these services. Now.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Apple TV Plus does not let you pay in a
year in advance as far as I know. But again,
this price creep, like you said, is real, and people
are deciding, you know, which services am I getting the
most use out of which one should I cancel and
just pick up again when a good show comes out
on them?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, Chuck E Cheese is Chuck E Cheese is now
Chuck's Arcade.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I went to a birthday party at Chuck E.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Cheese's a few months ago, maybe a year ago, and
it was a.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Birthday party for a two year old or something.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
This is my daughter's husband's nephew, I think. In any case,
I think it's the last audio animatronic check Uck E
Cheese show that exists in the country. And the Ridge,
yeah north Ridge, and it is great story there.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah. The technology is phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Do you remember Clutch Cargo the cartoon, No clutch Cargo
the cartoon only the mouth worked. They that was it.
It was pretty basic. This one was pretty basic. That's
for starters. Not much there and you and you said
(08:32):
that they have a new concept no pizza.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
So this is a new place I visited called Chuck's Arcade.
This is a spinoff brand from Chuck E. Cheese and
the first California location just opened at the Braham All
So on Friday. I went there. I was one of
the first people in there. And it is basically bill
like an arcade you might remember from your youth, right, Like,
you go in there, there's a bunch of games and
(08:58):
you just play games. Of course, you know there's prizes.
There's there's no food, but there's like, you know, candy,
stuff like that merchandise. And the cool thing is you
know all the games. You know, they got like retro
games like the pac Man and stuff, but they also
have the new high tech games and also the Claw games,
which apparently all the kids are into, including mine. But
(09:19):
the thing is about this is that they have the
old animatronics. Each location that they're building, they're you know,
cause they've decommissioned all the animatronics from all the locations
of Chuck E Cheese except for that one in Northridge,
and so they're putting one of those animatronic guys into
each one of these locations, but behind glass and it
doesn't move. It's just like a museum piece almost. But
(09:41):
it's cool. I mean, this is a great place for
kids to go and play adults. It's basically for people
of all ages. So adults now that remember Chuck E
Cheese as a kid, and just like our kids can
go in there. Kids can go in with their parents. Teenagers
can go in there after school. Most of them are
in malls. They've got about ten of them open so
far are and it's just kind of a new way
(10:02):
to you know, expand the Chuck E Cheese brand.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, that makes sense when you think about it. Because
they do birthday parties there. The one I went to
was a birthday party. And the pizza they serve there,
which every year wins first prize from the National Association
of the Worst Pizza on the planet, and it's the arcade.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
That's what they go for.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
The kids love the arcades and they spend a fortune
because mom and dad give them buckets of money and
it's not particularly cheap. And so I'm assuming how much
did you say your kid went there?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Well, so no, I can't tell you how much the
games cost at the arcade because since I was media,
they let me play, you know, like it's all those cards.
Now by the way, there's no more quarters. It's so
it's like tap cards.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So it's tough to tell because you buy the anyway
you buy the card, you charge it up, and then
you use it. Each game uses a certain amount. But look,
the reality I mean, I asked Chukichia, is that is
this affordable? And they said, look, it's you know, compared
to a lot of forms of entertainment out there. It's
all how much you want to spend. You want to
put twenty bucks in the card, you play twenty bucks,
you want to play forty dollars, you know, but kids
beg their parents for more and more. Look, it's just
(11:15):
it's another way of them to expand this brand name
that so many people love and have a lot of
memories for too. But again, no pizza, no restaurant, no
birthday parties inside the Chuck's Arcade it's just purely an arcade.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
All it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And by the way, their argument that there are other
forms of entertainment that costs more, that's true, like front
row seats at Hamilton when it comes around, it's cheaper
than that.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, yes, it is slightly cheaper than a Taylor Swift
concert too. Yeah, so they do have that going for them.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And by the way, when I talk about quarters going
in the machine, even I'm aware that that's just a
term that I know.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's cards.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So there, Yes, I know, Bill. I remember Vegas had coins. Remember,
I mean you go to Vegas and you had a
bucket of coins. That's gone.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh I didn't know that you can't put coins in
the slot machines anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I mean maybe at like a circus circus they have
like a coin one, but no, the restaur all the
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It's like just dollars. I guess I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't gamble, so I have absolutely no idea. Yeah,
well I gamble every morning. Yeah, I gamble every morning,
waking up and coming here there's my gamble. All right, Rich,
we'll catch you next week and over the weekend Saturday,
right here, on KFI at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You have a good one.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You two all right?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
All right?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Cars man, When people bought a car with a five
year loan, I went, wow, that is that's not such
a good idea because cars depreciate really quickly. And then
the sixth year loan, now that to be Yeah, that
got to be ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That was the upper upper end.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now more people take a six year loan than anything
else over thirty percent and seven year loans are not unusual.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You can buy those, and they're now tinkering.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
The finance folks are tinkering with eight year loans. And
it's affordable because the longer you have to pay off
a car, the cheaper the loan payments are.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Although if you.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Add the interest up then it becomes pretty expensive if
you added to the cost of the car. But that's
over eight years or seven years or six years. Who
pays attention to that. But here is the problem. You
kind of like the fact that the price never goes up.
It's like a mortgage, right, you have a fixed rate
mortgage and five years from now it's going to be
(13:53):
the same. But here's what's the difference with cars, And
mainly people have no choice.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Because otherwise you can't ford it.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, when I started buying cars, you know, back
in the twenties, it was I'm talking about a century ago,
it was a three year loan.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That's that was what it was.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
You paid off your car in three years, and you
weren't upside down. The car ended up being worth more
than what you owed, which today is impossible. So here
is the problem with buying a new car where you're
upside down. You buy a home, for example, Let's say
you spend a million dollars on the home and get
a fixed rate loan, and you're gonna pay the same
(14:34):
rate and it's pretty expensive. Your home does not depreciate
twenty percent the second you close escrow.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You buy a.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Home for a million dollars and you sign the paperwork
and there it is. It's worth eight hundred thousand dollars
now or seven hundred thousand dollars cars.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's what happens. And if you are.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
If you buy a new car, you're kind of crazy
these days love new cars. But man, you know, the
difference between a car three years off a lease leases
are still three years that is, you know, that makes
more sense you're not upside down. What is upside down
always more owing more money than what the car is worth.
(15:17):
And by the end of the five years or six years,
you've paid it off and the car is worth nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And if you want.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
To switch cars at the fourth year or third year,
you're done. You can't do it at all. You can't
do it. So you kind of four to three year
or four year purchase agreement alone. So you have to
go six years. You have to go seven years. And
I was talking to Anne. She has a six year loan,
(15:47):
which is normal. Now, Cono, you have a car, right,
you have like a Ugo or an Atlas. My friend,
I don't even know what an Atlas is.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's a bit wagon.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's a Volkswagon.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, okay, car, all right, And I'm assuming, of course
you took a loan on it, right, Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Five here, six, I had to go higher, but we
pay higher. We'd pay more than what are what to
do every single time? Okay, So I'll pay it off
in six but technically it is a seven.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Year you have a seven year loan. Okay, let's go
around because I'm just curious what we do. I know
Ann has a six year loan on her car, Amy,
do you have a.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Loan on your car? I just have a really old car.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That means you paid it off. Yeah, oh, good for you.
That's smart. And your car is, what twenty eight years old?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's literally twenty years old. Wow, and it's still adorable.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That goes to show you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That's the other thing is that cars are so well
built to it. They talk about, Oh, the old cars
are so terrific. They were made out of real steel.
Look at how often you had to repair them and
how long they lasted. To get one hundred thousand miles
out of a car from a car twenty five years
ago if you bought it new, certainly is not the
(17:04):
same as a car today. They're more efficient, they last longer,
the technology is better.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Will do you have a loan on your car? I'm
also paid off thirteen years old? Thirteen year old car?
That actually that makes sense. Yeah, that's smart. Actually, Neil,
do you have a loan on your car?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah? I buy used and I think it's a four
year loan.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Okay, so you're down at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But you buy a used car now, you're gonna pay
a lot more interest on a used car than you
are going to pay on a new car.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But it makes a lot to.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Say a new car, I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I mean, you can afford old.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
It just always treats me well.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I drive a truck, okay, and I've switched to leasing,
and the last two three times I always bought. And
the one benefit thing about leasing is at the end
of the three years if you buy a three years lease,
all right, car's done, your finish. You're on to the
next one. But you don't even know what the interest
rate is on a lease. You have no idea what
(18:07):
you're paying. All you know is you're paying X dollars
a month. And my next car is going to be
a used car because, frankly, I because I wanted to
be a big guy, and I have it extraordinarily small.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I had to get a brand new car and show
the world that, oh, look at me, aren't I important?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
You know what you actually changed the way I looked
at cars. You told me that expect don't use it
as an investment. Expect it to expect to have a
payment every month. And you think of it as a utility.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Right, like you pay your utility bill every month. That's
not an investment. The same thing with your car. It's
what you pay for transportation every month.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
Now, I will run it into the ground. I will
have it just like I mean will I'll keep it
and keep it.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's when it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That is when buying a car makes a lot of
sense a new car.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
If you're going to anticipate every month to have a
payment regardless because you're going to eventually need a car
at some point.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, we're not in New York or London where a
car gets in the way. Also, Neil and I are
going to well, I am going to be Neil's guest
at the Wild Fork Restaurant.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
In Long Wild Fork Foods.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's a restaurant, it's not a restaurant, you're right, I'm sorry,
I'm yeah, the Wild Fork Foods store, which has extraordinary
meats and proteins and desserts. Anyway, Neil is broadcasting there
on Saturday two to five o'clock, would be doing the
Fork Report broadcast at the Wild Fork, and I will
be there. Well, I was about to say that, but
(19:57):
thank you for jumping in and.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Correcting me.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
It just sounded like it was going to be this weekend,
and I thought, no, you know, no, you're okay.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Anyway, it is the sixth, and they'll be giveaways, they'll
be samples. You will enjoy Neil and I enjoying the food.
If there is a line for samples, for example, Neil
and I will be cutting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
To the front of the line.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You cut, I do and watching by cutters people.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh yeah, no, I do that purposely, so people scream.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
At me while I'm eating, while I'm eating their food
that they would get and spitting food up and spraying
it all over the front of their clothing and.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
So making it sound pretty. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
It's a week from this Saturday, right, So on the sixth,
come out and hang out. It's there one year anniversary
there at their Long Beach location.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, and if you've I'm a huge fan of wold Fork.
I've been eating Wild Fork food probably fifteen years, give
or take, and it is The food is extraordinary. It
is some of the best meats you'll ever had. And
reasonably priced too. You know those high end stores that
sell meats that's ridiculous prices, Well, this meat is at
(21:15):
that good and it is a fraction of the costs,
you'll you'll have a chance to taste it, and all
kinds of samples, all kinds of giveaways that we're going
to have, because that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
So please join us.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Coming up next Saturday, a week from Saturday, at the
Wild Fork Store in Long Beach, and that's from two
to five Neil's broadcast. Also, I think that's it for
that one. And a quick reminder that I am taking
phone calls for Handle on the Law off the air,
(21:52):
and the numbers eight seven seven five to zero eleven fifty.
And as I take phone calls on Tuesdays and Thursdays,
never commercial or breaks or will giving you traffic, thank goodness,
or Amy with the news. It's just me and you,
and of course I have no patience, so that works
(22:12):
out very well. And the number is eight seven seven
five two zero eleven fifty and Gary and Shannon are
up next tomorrow. It starts all over again with Amy
and Will five o'clock wake up call, and then Neil
and I join, and of course Cono and and make
the show run.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And that's why there's so many screw ups every morning.
Okay that Cono. I know you're blaming me for going
off on tangents and blond screws me and Ann never
screw up? Oh God ever? All right?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Eight seven seven five to two zero eleven fifty Handle
on the Law, Off the air.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
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Speaker 1 (22:59):
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