November 4, 2025 • 22 mins
(November 04,2025)
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich covers Apple’s latest software update, TikTok’s first-ever award show, AI and heart health. Enjoy Apply CarPlay while you still can. Why the future of coffer doesn’t belong to Starbucks.
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich covers Apple’s latest software update, TikTok’s first-ever award show, AI and heart health. Enjoy Apply CarPlay while you still can. Why the future of coffer doesn’t belong to Starbucks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listen Saints kf I AM six forty the Bill
Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio f.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Caf I AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Bill Handle here on a Tuesday, A actually tech Tuesday
with Rich quick reminder that if you haven't voted yet
for Prop fifty, don't bother. It's going to win. Vote
don't vote it's winning. How's that for a public service message? Huh,
(00:32):
thank you? And there are votes going on on the
East coast. Virginia is having a big governor's race, and
of course New York is the one everybody's looking at
to Mom Donnie versus Curtis will no chance, not enough
berets in the city. And you've got Cuomo who hates Trump.
(00:52):
Trump hates him, but yet it's he's endorsing him. Now
you go figure, all right, Moving on away from politics
for a moment, it's time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Tomorrow.
You can hear them live every Saturday, eleven to two
pm here on KFI, every day on KTLA TV, Instagram,
at rich on Tech website, rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to Bill.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay, Oh, I've got some questions to ask you. Uh,
the latest software update from Apple. Now, before we get
into that, I have updates that come like every fifteen minutes,
it seems on my phone. So I'm assuming this is
a big deal relative to the all of the other
updates that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Correct All the other updates we've seen so far for
iOS twenty six have been just small, sort of incremental updates.
Whenever they do a dot one, dot two, dot fo
that means those are a larger update filled with you know,
not just security fixes, but kind of feedback from what
consumers have been asking for. And this one, specifically, Bill,
(01:58):
I think is a really interesting one because you know,
we got this new liquid glass design on the iPhone
that's been very polarizing to folks. Some people say it's
tough to read, it's tough to use, it's harder to
look at. And so now I think this is Apple's
first admission that, Okay, not everyone likes this, because there
is a new option in your display settings where you
(02:20):
can tone down liquid glass, so you can go from
the standard liquid glass or a new tinted mode, which
basically gets rid of the transparency so you can see
everything better and read everything better.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
By the way, have you looked at this and tried it.
In your opinion of liquid glass.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know, yes, I have been using it. I would
say I think overall it's good.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I do like it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I think that it depends on you know, eyesight is
a very specific thing to a lot of people. What
bugs people, what they like, what they don't like, what's
easy to read, what's not easy to read, based on
you know, anyone's given site. And so I think that
having this option is better because it definitely makes things
more readable because they are less transparent. So if you
want to see it, you can go into settings displaying
(03:07):
brightness and there's a new option for liquid glass that
says clear or tinted. Just choose the ones that you like.
It gives you a little diagram up at the top
to let you see what the differences are. Basically, it's
just less transparent, so everything's just simpler on the screen.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Isn't glass always liquid when it starts?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That part I do not know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All I know is that if you really look through
what Apple did, I mean, look, there's no denying that
Apple's attention to detail is just so great that when
you go through this phone and look at how they
did liquid glass. It really is like quite impressive how
you can see stuff through like the little menus and
you can drag your finger around and like bubble up whatever.
But you know, it's not for everyone. So I don't know.
(03:53):
I thought glass started as sands, but what do I know?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Hey guys, No, but it becomes bolten, it becomes you
heated up to three thousand degrees and he had some
coke to it, the mineral coke, and there.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Is Welton glass. He pour it out. It's all good stuff.
Oh have you? And I just want to throw this before.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Going Another topic is I just read an article in
the Wall Street Journal about how Tim Cook basically saved
Apple as it was going south.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Have you picked that up?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Tim Cook is a very smart man, and he is
a logistics guy, and so he may not be inventing
the next iPad, but he is very savvy when it
comes to business, and so I have no doubt that
here's a company that was handed to him after, you know,
Steve Jobs passed away and they had one product that
(04:45):
was a winner, and that was the iPhone, and you know,
not so much the the iPad as well. But he
had to take this company and continue to run it
for the past, you know, ten almost fifteen years now
without a breakthrough product, and by the way, the one
that he tried to make, the vision pro, kind of flopped.
But I do think he's done great things for this
(05:06):
company keeping it going so yes, very sea and.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
By the way, he's a visionary being given credit for
him reading before the tariffs kicked in that tariffs were
going to come in, and he made major moves to
still manufacture the iPhones and the other products outside of China.
I mean, the guy is just I mean, you know,
he has a crystal ball in front of him and
this one I have rich. I just well, I should
(05:32):
have believed. This is TikTok's first ever award show, which I'm
assuming you can only see it on TikTok. It's not
going to be covered by any of the networks, which
would be very funny if they did well.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's okay, So it is happening here in Los Angeles
at the Palladium on December eighteenth. This is their first
ever US award show, and I think it makes sense.
TikTok is a force to be reckoned with, especially with
the young ends, you know, and not just youngins. It's
it's everyone. I mean every people love TikTok. They are
on this thing all day long, swiping through and so
(06:08):
I think awards kind of fit. And by the way, yes,
you can watch it on not just TikTok, but also
to Be will be streaming it live. Yeah, and to
Be I believe it's owned by Fox. Let's see is
to be owned by Fox? Yes, if to Be's owned
by Fox, So that's interesting. But I guess you know,
(06:30):
they see enough people tuning in for that, so they
want to carry it live. Why not? But yeah, so
you're gonna be able to have a red carpet, live performances,
live audience. So it's not just an online event. This
is like a real, you know, award ceremony in a
time bill when we know the standard awards ceremonies are struggling,
so it'll be interesting to see how this does.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, well, there's so many of a standard awards ceremony,
the People's Award, the People's Children's Award, the young people,
the old people, the Middle aged People's Award, the iHeart
has I don't know how many awards shows. But here's
a practical question. Academy awards for example, that's about two
(07:13):
hundred films a.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Year actually come out. And in terms of.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Even records albums, I mean, you know, I don't know
how many you are out there, maybe a few thousand.
TikTok has tens or hundreds of millions of postings. How
do you get to a TikTok award when you're one
of I don't know, four million, eight million, twelve million.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Great question. So this is not focusing on the videos.
It's focusing on the people. So this is really about
creators that are on the platform. There is a Video
of the Year, but of course, you know, some things
do bubble up to the top. There's a muse of
the Year, Breakthrough Artists of the Year. And I think
(08:02):
what really will make this probably pretty popular is the
fact that these TikTokers are really superstars in the eyes
of their viewers and their followers, and a lot of
these people have you know, forty million followers. So I
think that the fact that we get to see these
people in a different light, in a different way than
(08:22):
just their videos on a tiny screen, I think is
what's probably going to propel this show to be pretty
popular among the YouTubers. The TikTokers that are watching out there.
I had to look up, you know, some of the people.
There's like five people that they mentioned in the piece
that are like creators of the year. I'm familiar with one,
two of them, and three of them I'm not. But
(08:45):
all of them, if you look them up, you know,
they're all doing stuff that's quite unique and interesting in
their own way. I mean, these people are business people,
and they're not just business people. They're also highly creative,
using you know, the latest kind of editing from their phone,
his techniques to do deals. They have to be a
business person and a content creator and a creative executive
(09:05):
all in one, and so you know, I do give
them credit for all of that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know. One of the things I was looking at
was the kind of videos that are out there.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And what was it the mini.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Soap operas that occur like a couple of three minutes,
and they'll have a hundred of them, but huge production value.
I mean sound people and lighting people, and I mean
it's I never thought that would happen with TikTok. You know,
you think of TikTok as someone just holding up a
phone and saying, hey, here's what I'm doing, and here's
(09:41):
this new restaurant I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's gotten crazy, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, Yeah, And like the business aspect of this, to
me is what's really interesting because you're talking, you are supporting.
You know, sometimes these people, you know, the whole thing
about these TikTokers and the Instagrammers and the YouTubers of
the world, it looks like it's just them, right, Like
that's the whole thing is like this is just me.
Like you just said, Hey, I'm going to this restaurant.
I'm showing you this restaurant. Here's my video of it,
(10:07):
and you know, comedy and that kind of stuff. But
the reality is a lot of these people have a
team behind them, and it doesn't always start that way.
Obviously you have to start small, but it looks like
you're keeping it real. And I think that is the
biggest difference between something like a TikTok and what people
are drawn to and something like these big, you know,
Hollywood kind of productions that we're seeing. And so I
(10:30):
think the trick is for these people to keep it
looking like it is very small and just them, even
when they have a team that's helping them edit come
up with ideas, schedule things, business meetings, you know, business deals,
which is all happening you know right now?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, I find that absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So there you have some eighteen year old who has
forty million followers and is making twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean it just it's phenomenal. I mean the different
ways that go ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, this one, Brooke Monk, she's got forty two million
followers on TikTok and she is twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Two years old and really followers. So what does she
what does she do? I mean, what's the premise of
her TikTok program? Humor?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Lip syncs, everyday comedy. I mean, it's just creativity, you know,
like what here's my life, beauty fashion. I mean a
lot of these people it's just they're sharing their lives.
They also happen to be hot most of the time,
or good looking or athletic or whatever and talented and smart.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
By the way, all right, Rich, thank you, we're talking
in next week. Always always a.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Pleasure, have you, all right?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Neil, Maybe that's why your TikTok videos really didn't work out,
because you're really hot and creative and I don't know,
I think you're pretty hot.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I've been told enough cleavage.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Now I'm telling you other people may not know you're hot,
but you know when I look at you on the monitor,
I get would.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm telling you it's very wrong with you. Plenty plenty
all right. Now, Apple car Play.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
If you have an iPhone, which I do, of course
you use Apple CarPlay. It came out about a decade ago.
And until then, do you know the drivers, I don't
even remember this. We're stuck with whatever tech features were
preloaded into their cars.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And it was ridiculous, so horrible. So what does CarPlay
let you do? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You got Apple Maps, you got Spotify ways, you're not
fumbling for your phone. You're making hands free calls, dictating
text messages, which I find kind of fun. And it's
all free, and it's loved by millions, millions, tens of
millions of iPhone users.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So what does General Motors do well?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The CEO General Motors, Mary Bara, just announced the new
cars that GM is going to be producing will not
support car Play or Android Auto.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's a counterpart whoa well.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Preliminary data from Autopacific research firm suggests that CarPlay and
Android Auto are considered must have features among many new
car shoppers.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Of course they are, there's no question. But according to GM.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The company can create even a better experience for drivers
by dropping Apple making its own software.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Hmm. And here is what I love this.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
GM is defending this by saying, let's say you remove
a feature like the disk drive on a laptop. Well,
people eventually adapt and they move on, right, and a
big hole in that one. So this change will happen
over time, not overnight. And if your car right now
supports Apple car Play or Android Auto, that will continue.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
How Ever, ain't gonna happen soon. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't quite understand how that analogy works because we're
not talking about new technology, we're talking basically about new software.
And so oh, there's another difference. GM software isn't tied
to a phone like CarPlay. So the full suite of
software which required its own data data plan, well, you're
(14:26):
gonna have to buy it from them through GM.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Of course it's free now, but GM is going to
charge for it. Huh. And here's why.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Because automakers have realized how much money they can make
from in car technology the old subscription plan. They don't
just make the money when they sell you the car
or make the money when they provide spare parts.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
How about a monthly fee? WHOA, how about that?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And so maybe they charge a subscription fee for hands
free highway cruise control GM. Already XU has that on
certain cars and it's fairly successful.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So no more Apple car Play in the future, and
it's all going to be behind a paywall. Toyota has
some navigation tools that require subscription, but CarPlay does the
same thing for no cost. Switching over to a non
free platform when you have a free platform is no
(15:29):
fun at all, and everybody accepts expects it for free.
It's like the Internet. You do internet shopping. Of course,
it's free to get on Safari or to get on
any other browser. I wonder if they're going to start
charging for that, Neil, do you see that happening?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I can see all of this happening at this point,
like subscriptions and pay nickel and diming for everything.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, you know, we tried that here.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Remember the year a few years ago we tried a
subscription plan for the Morning Show, and we had to
tell the three people who actually signed up.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That we are not going to go forward with that. Yeah,
now that was rough.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, and one of them died, so it went down
to two people died before we said no. Now coffee
when Starbucks first came out, that was the introduction of
real coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Before that, if you go to anyplace else in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And you talked about American coffee, they would laugh at you.
They viewed it as dirty water, hot dirty waters.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What it was known for.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And Howard Schultz picked up the idea that we were
ready for good coffee, good espresso, good lattes using pressure machines.
The espresso machines, which is the way coffee is made,
should be made percolator.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
What does that do?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It makes no sense, and drip coffee better, but certainly
not coffee made through a coffee machine, an espresso machine.
So you have this small Seattle coffee retailer and he
goes in there and opens up or did he buy
it or he opened it up in Seattle at Pike's Market.
I think he bought it, if I'm not mistaken. It
(17:15):
was this tiny little place and now it has seventeen
thousand stores in the US and obviously become one of
the massive, massive companies in terms of food in the world,
certainly in the world of drink, and now coming up
are just dozens of regional favorites who want to become
(17:38):
national And one of them I'm going to tell you about,
and it's a company called Dutch Brothers. Have you heard
of Dutch Brothers, Neil.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Absolutely, they're proliferating out this way right now. But you
can find them in the Inland Empire and places like that.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, they now have about a thousand drive through shops,
mainly in the West and South. And what they want
to do is quadruple within the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Found it in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Now, when you think of Starbucks, first of all, I
hate Starbucks coffee. For me, it is way too bitter.
I am not a fan of Starbucks at all. Or
I find fascinating about Starbucks. And I've actually seen this.
There is a Starbucks on one corner and across the
street is another Starbucks literally across the street.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then someone pointed out.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Bill in the morning, everybody goes in one direction and
everybody goes the other direction, and so people want to
have a Starbucks you can turn right into Yeah, and
both Brothers is.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Great, incredibly popular and set their own pace as to
who they are, not just up against Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, and I'm assuming have you had Desh Brothers coffee? Yeah, Neil,
How does it compare to Starbucks?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I think it's way better. Okay, I don't go to
Starbucks person.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, that seems to be the contest.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The it seems to be the consensus and the story
of Dutch Brothers. They're two brothers who left dairy farming
and started to sell espresso from a push cart in
Grant's Pass, Oregon. So, Amy, you would know about Dutch
Brothers because you're right from that area.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
We have them everywhere up there, okay, and it's good
to see him expanding here. What's going to be an
issue is the Dutch Brothers are all drive through They're like,
it's a little key, yes, and there's so few drive
throughs here.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Okay. And by the way, that that is the future,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Drive throughs as opposed to a in store because you
have the footprint, you have the cleaning, you don't do anything.
And I love what they have. They don't have bodistas.
They have Bryce does brys does who try to remember
your name?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
If they call everybody, John, You're fine, And mainly it's
gen Z started this. Coffee preferences diverge by generation. According
to an analyst for WHO, says, like everybody likes chicken sandwiches,
but older customers still drink hot black coffee. Younger ones
the colorful energy drinks and the iced concoctions. That's where
(20:25):
it is. It's among the younger drinkers. I don't drink well.
I like an iced coffee in the middle of the
summer sometimes when it's hot out there. So Dutch Brother's
coffee is out there for everyone. I can't wait to
do that drive through. Well, Pete's Coffee, how does that
compare right now? I mean that's always been around for
(20:47):
a while.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Uh Neil, I'm throwing it at you.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The last time I went to a Pete Coffee, It's
it's been a minute, okay, And then you know what,
you have to compare them, okay, and then you have that.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
At something leaf and Tea and Leaves and Twigs or
whatever the hell they call that brand of coffee.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I get coffee at home.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, Well, I'm having an espresso machine for me. It's
the best thing out there and it costs about a
buck a cup.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I love an espresso. Yeah, Amy, you were.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Going to say, I was going to say, you know what.
The other thing about Dutch bros. Is that is a
big thing is that their people are super friendly. It'll
be interesting to see if that translates down here in
LA But in Oregon they're all at every single one
super friendly.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well it's say.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Trader Joe's, Trader Joe's, everybody is super friendly. The other
day it was a Trader Joe's and there was someone
walking out the door and the guy screamed, hey, thanks
for shoplifting. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's nice. Thank you community. Yes, yes, all right, Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Next tomorrow morning it starts all over again because Amy's back,
and it's Amy and Will five o'clock wake up call,
and then from six to nine Neil and I jump aboard.
We'll talk about what happened with Prop fifty. We'll talk
what happened. Well, we know it's gonna happen with Prop fifty.
The Mayor's race a little bit up in the air,
and we got a lot going on. And don't forget
(22:17):
Ann and Kono always here to add to the festivities.
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Caf I AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Bill Handle here on a Tuesday, A actually tech Tuesday
with Rich quick reminder that if you haven't voted yet
for Prop fifty, don't bother. It's going to win. Vote
don't vote it's winning. How's that for a public service message? Huh,
(00:32):
thank you? And there are votes going on on the
East coast. Virginia is having a big governor's race, and
of course New York is the one everybody's looking at
to Mom Donnie versus Curtis will no chance, not enough
berets in the city. And you've got Cuomo who hates Trump.
(00:52):
Trump hates him, but yet it's he's endorsing him. Now
you go figure, all right, Moving on away from politics
for a moment, it's time for Tech Tuesday with Rich Tomorrow.
You can hear them live every Saturday, eleven to two
pm here on KFI, every day on KTLA TV, Instagram,
at rich on Tech website, rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to Bill.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Okay, Oh, I've got some questions to ask you. Uh,
the latest software update from Apple. Now, before we get
into that, I have updates that come like every fifteen minutes,
it seems on my phone. So I'm assuming this is
a big deal relative to the all of the other
updates that happen.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Correct All the other updates we've seen so far for
iOS twenty six have been just small, sort of incremental updates.
Whenever they do a dot one, dot two, dot fo
that means those are a larger update filled with you know,
not just security fixes, but kind of feedback from what
consumers have been asking for. And this one, specifically, Bill,
(01:58):
I think is a really interesting one because you know,
we got this new liquid glass design on the iPhone
that's been very polarizing to folks. Some people say it's
tough to read, it's tough to use, it's harder to
look at. And so now I think this is Apple's
first admission that, Okay, not everyone likes this, because there
is a new option in your display settings where you
(02:20):
can tone down liquid glass, so you can go from
the standard liquid glass or a new tinted mode, which
basically gets rid of the transparency so you can see
everything better and read everything better.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
By the way, have you looked at this and tried it.
In your opinion of liquid glass.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You know, yes, I have been using it. I would
say I think overall it's good.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I do like it.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I think that it depends on you know, eyesight is
a very specific thing to a lot of people. What
bugs people, what they like, what they don't like, what's
easy to read, what's not easy to read, based on
you know, anyone's given site. And so I think that
having this option is better because it definitely makes things
more readable because they are less transparent. So if you
want to see it, you can go into settings displaying
(03:07):
brightness and there's a new option for liquid glass that
says clear or tinted. Just choose the ones that you like.
It gives you a little diagram up at the top
to let you see what the differences are. Basically, it's
just less transparent, so everything's just simpler on the screen.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Isn't glass always liquid when it starts?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That part I do not know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All I know is that if you really look through
what Apple did, I mean, look, there's no denying that
Apple's attention to detail is just so great that when
you go through this phone and look at how they
did liquid glass. It really is like quite impressive how
you can see stuff through like the little menus and
you can drag your finger around and like bubble up whatever.
But you know, it's not for everyone. So I don't know.
(03:53):
I thought glass started as sands, but what do I know?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Hey guys, No, but it becomes bolten, it becomes you
heated up to three thousand degrees and he had some
coke to it, the mineral coke, and there.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Is Welton glass. He pour it out. It's all good stuff.
Oh have you? And I just want to throw this before.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Going Another topic is I just read an article in
the Wall Street Journal about how Tim Cook basically saved
Apple as it was going south.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Have you picked that up?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Tim Cook is a very smart man, and he is
a logistics guy, and so he may not be inventing
the next iPad, but he is very savvy when it
comes to business, and so I have no doubt that
here's a company that was handed to him after, you know,
Steve Jobs passed away and they had one product that
(04:45):
was a winner, and that was the iPhone, and you know,
not so much the the iPad as well. But he
had to take this company and continue to run it
for the past, you know, ten almost fifteen years now
without a breakthrough product, and by the way, the one
that he tried to make, the vision pro, kind of flopped.
But I do think he's done great things for this
(05:06):
company keeping it going so yes, very sea and.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
By the way, he's a visionary being given credit for
him reading before the tariffs kicked in that tariffs were
going to come in, and he made major moves to
still manufacture the iPhones and the other products outside of China.
I mean, the guy is just I mean, you know,
he has a crystal ball in front of him and
this one I have rich. I just well, I should
(05:32):
have believed. This is TikTok's first ever award show, which I'm
assuming you can only see it on TikTok. It's not
going to be covered by any of the networks, which
would be very funny if they did well.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's okay, So it is happening here in Los Angeles
at the Palladium on December eighteenth. This is their first
ever US award show, and I think it makes sense.
TikTok is a force to be reckoned with, especially with
the young ends, you know, and not just youngins. It's
it's everyone. I mean every people love TikTok. They are
on this thing all day long, swiping through and so
(06:08):
I think awards kind of fit. And by the way, yes,
you can watch it on not just TikTok, but also
to Be will be streaming it live. Yeah, and to
Be I believe it's owned by Fox. Let's see is
to be owned by Fox? Yes, if to Be's owned
by Fox, So that's interesting. But I guess you know,
(06:30):
they see enough people tuning in for that, so they
want to carry it live. Why not? But yeah, so
you're gonna be able to have a red carpet, live performances,
live audience. So it's not just an online event. This
is like a real, you know, award ceremony in a
time bill when we know the standard awards ceremonies are struggling,
so it'll be interesting to see how this does.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, well, there's so many of a standard awards ceremony,
the People's Award, the People's Children's Award, the young people,
the old people, the Middle aged People's Award, the iHeart
has I don't know how many awards shows. But here's
a practical question. Academy awards for example, that's about two
(07:13):
hundred films a.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Year actually come out. And in terms of.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Even records albums, I mean, you know, I don't know
how many you are out there, maybe a few thousand.
TikTok has tens or hundreds of millions of postings. How
do you get to a TikTok award when you're one
of I don't know, four million, eight million, twelve million.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Great question. So this is not focusing on the videos.
It's focusing on the people. So this is really about
creators that are on the platform. There is a Video
of the Year, but of course, you know, some things
do bubble up to the top. There's a muse of
the Year, Breakthrough Artists of the Year. And I think
(08:02):
what really will make this probably pretty popular is the
fact that these TikTokers are really superstars in the eyes
of their viewers and their followers, and a lot of
these people have you know, forty million followers. So I
think that the fact that we get to see these
people in a different light, in a different way than
(08:22):
just their videos on a tiny screen, I think is
what's probably going to propel this show to be pretty
popular among the YouTubers. The TikTokers that are watching out there.
I had to look up, you know, some of the people.
There's like five people that they mentioned in the piece
that are like creators of the year. I'm familiar with one,
two of them, and three of them I'm not. But
(08:45):
all of them, if you look them up, you know,
they're all doing stuff that's quite unique and interesting in
their own way. I mean, these people are business people,
and they're not just business people. They're also highly creative,
using you know, the latest kind of editing from their phone,
his techniques to do deals. They have to be a
business person and a content creator and a creative executive
(09:05):
all in one, and so you know, I do give
them credit for all of that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know. One of the things I was looking at
was the kind of videos that are out there.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And what was it the mini.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Soap operas that occur like a couple of three minutes,
and they'll have a hundred of them, but huge production value.
I mean sound people and lighting people, and I mean
it's I never thought that would happen with TikTok. You know,
you think of TikTok as someone just holding up a
phone and saying, hey, here's what I'm doing, and here's
(09:41):
this new restaurant I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's gotten crazy, hasn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Well, Yeah, And like the business aspect of this, to
me is what's really interesting because you're talking, you are supporting.
You know, sometimes these people, you know, the whole thing
about these TikTokers and the Instagrammers and the YouTubers of
the world, it looks like it's just them, right, Like
that's the whole thing is like this is just me.
Like you just said, Hey, I'm going to this restaurant.
I'm showing you this restaurant. Here's my video of it,
(10:07):
and you know, comedy and that kind of stuff. But
the reality is a lot of these people have a
team behind them, and it doesn't always start that way.
Obviously you have to start small, but it looks like
you're keeping it real. And I think that is the
biggest difference between something like a TikTok and what people
are drawn to and something like these big, you know,
Hollywood kind of productions that we're seeing. And so I
(10:30):
think the trick is for these people to keep it
looking like it is very small and just them, even
when they have a team that's helping them edit come
up with ideas, schedule things, business meetings, you know, business deals,
which is all happening you know right now?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, I find that absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So there you have some eighteen year old who has
forty million followers and is making twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean it just it's phenomenal. I mean the different
ways that go ahead.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, this one, Brooke Monk, she's got forty two million
followers on TikTok and she is twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Two years old and really followers. So what does she
what does she do? I mean, what's the premise of
her TikTok program? Humor?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Lip syncs, everyday comedy. I mean, it's just creativity, you know,
like what here's my life, beauty fashion. I mean a
lot of these people it's just they're sharing their lives.
They also happen to be hot most of the time,
or good looking or athletic or whatever and talented and smart.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
By the way, all right, Rich, thank you, we're talking
in next week. Always always a.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Pleasure, have you, all right?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Neil, Maybe that's why your TikTok videos really didn't work out,
because you're really hot and creative and I don't know,
I think you're pretty hot.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
I've been told enough cleavage.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Now I'm telling you other people may not know you're hot,
but you know when I look at you on the monitor,
I get would.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm telling you it's very wrong with you. Plenty plenty
all right. Now, Apple car Play.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
If you have an iPhone, which I do, of course
you use Apple CarPlay. It came out about a decade ago.
And until then, do you know the drivers, I don't
even remember this. We're stuck with whatever tech features were
preloaded into their cars.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And it was ridiculous, so horrible. So what does CarPlay
let you do? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
You got Apple Maps, you got Spotify ways, you're not
fumbling for your phone. You're making hands free calls, dictating
text messages, which I find kind of fun. And it's
all free, and it's loved by millions, millions, tens of
millions of iPhone users.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
So what does General Motors do well?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The CEO General Motors, Mary Bara, just announced the new
cars that GM is going to be producing will not
support car Play or Android Auto.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's a counterpart whoa well.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Preliminary data from Autopacific research firm suggests that CarPlay and
Android Auto are considered must have features among many new
car shoppers.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Of course they are, there's no question. But according to GM.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The company can create even a better experience for drivers
by dropping Apple making its own software.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Hmm. And here is what I love this.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
GM is defending this by saying, let's say you remove
a feature like the disk drive on a laptop. Well,
people eventually adapt and they move on, right, and a
big hole in that one. So this change will happen
over time, not overnight. And if your car right now
supports Apple car Play or Android Auto, that will continue.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
How Ever, ain't gonna happen soon. Now.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't quite understand how that analogy works because we're
not talking about new technology, we're talking basically about new software.
And so oh, there's another difference. GM software isn't tied
to a phone like CarPlay. So the full suite of
software which required its own data data plan, well, you're
(14:26):
gonna have to buy it from them through GM.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Of course it's free now, but GM is going to
charge for it. Huh. And here's why.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Because automakers have realized how much money they can make
from in car technology the old subscription plan. They don't
just make the money when they sell you the car
or make the money when they provide spare parts.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
How about a monthly fee? WHOA, how about that?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And so maybe they charge a subscription fee for hands
free highway cruise control GM. Already XU has that on
certain cars and it's fairly successful.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So no more Apple car Play in the future, and
it's all going to be behind a paywall. Toyota has
some navigation tools that require subscription, but CarPlay does the
same thing for no cost. Switching over to a non
free platform when you have a free platform is no
(15:29):
fun at all, and everybody accepts expects it for free.
It's like the Internet. You do internet shopping. Of course,
it's free to get on Safari or to get on
any other browser. I wonder if they're going to start
charging for that, Neil, do you see that happening?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I can see all of this happening at this point,
like subscriptions and pay nickel and diming for everything.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, you know, we tried that here.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Remember the year a few years ago we tried a
subscription plan for the Morning Show, and we had to
tell the three people who actually signed up.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
That we are not going to go forward with that. Yeah,
now that was rough.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, and one of them died, so it went down
to two people died before we said no. Now coffee
when Starbucks first came out, that was the introduction of
real coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Before that, if you go to anyplace else in the world.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And you talked about American coffee, they would laugh at you.
They viewed it as dirty water, hot dirty waters.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What it was known for.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And Howard Schultz picked up the idea that we were
ready for good coffee, good espresso, good lattes using pressure machines.
The espresso machines, which is the way coffee is made,
should be made percolator.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
What does that do?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It makes no sense, and drip coffee better, but certainly
not coffee made through a coffee machine, an espresso machine.
So you have this small Seattle coffee retailer and he
goes in there and opens up or did he buy
it or he opened it up in Seattle at Pike's Market.
I think he bought it, if I'm not mistaken. It
(17:15):
was this tiny little place and now it has seventeen
thousand stores in the US and obviously become one of
the massive, massive companies in terms of food in the world,
certainly in the world of drink, and now coming up
are just dozens of regional favorites who want to become
(17:38):
national And one of them I'm going to tell you about,
and it's a company called Dutch Brothers. Have you heard
of Dutch Brothers, Neil.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Absolutely, they're proliferating out this way right now. But you
can find them in the Inland Empire and places like that.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, they now have about a thousand drive through shops,
mainly in the West and South. And what they want
to do is quadruple within the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Found it in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Now, when you think of Starbucks, first of all, I
hate Starbucks coffee. For me, it is way too bitter.
I am not a fan of Starbucks at all. Or
I find fascinating about Starbucks. And I've actually seen this.
There is a Starbucks on one corner and across the
street is another Starbucks literally across the street.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And then someone pointed out.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Bill in the morning, everybody goes in one direction and
everybody goes the other direction, and so people want to
have a Starbucks you can turn right into Yeah, and
both Brothers is.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Great, incredibly popular and set their own pace as to
who they are, not just up against Starbucks.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, and I'm assuming have you had Desh Brothers coffee? Yeah, Neil,
How does it compare to Starbucks?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I think it's way better. Okay, I don't go to
Starbucks person.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, that seems to be the contest.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The it seems to be the consensus and the story
of Dutch Brothers. They're two brothers who left dairy farming
and started to sell espresso from a push cart in
Grant's Pass, Oregon. So, Amy, you would know about Dutch
Brothers because you're right from that area.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
We have them everywhere up there, okay, and it's good
to see him expanding here. What's going to be an
issue is the Dutch Brothers are all drive through They're like,
it's a little key, yes, and there's so few drive
throughs here.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Okay. And by the way, that that is the future,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Drive throughs as opposed to a in store because you
have the footprint, you have the cleaning, you don't do anything.
And I love what they have. They don't have bodistas.
They have Bryce does brys does who try to remember
your name?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
If they call everybody, John, You're fine, And mainly it's
gen Z started this. Coffee preferences diverge by generation. According
to an analyst for WHO, says, like everybody likes chicken sandwiches,
but older customers still drink hot black coffee. Younger ones
the colorful energy drinks and the iced concoctions. That's where
(20:25):
it is. It's among the younger drinkers. I don't drink well.
I like an iced coffee in the middle of the
summer sometimes when it's hot out there. So Dutch Brother's
coffee is out there for everyone. I can't wait to
do that drive through. Well, Pete's Coffee, how does that
compare right now? I mean that's always been around for
(20:47):
a while.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Uh Neil, I'm throwing it at you.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The last time I went to a Pete Coffee, It's
it's been a minute, okay, And then you know what,
you have to compare them, okay, and then you have that.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
At something leaf and Tea and Leaves and Twigs or
whatever the hell they call that brand of coffee.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I get coffee at home.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, Well, I'm having an espresso machine for me. It's
the best thing out there and it costs about a
buck a cup.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I love an espresso. Yeah, Amy, you were.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Going to say, I was going to say, you know what.
The other thing about Dutch bros. Is that is a
big thing is that their people are super friendly. It'll
be interesting to see if that translates down here in
LA But in Oregon they're all at every single one
super friendly.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well it's say.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Trader Joe's, Trader Joe's, everybody is super friendly. The other
day it was a Trader Joe's and there was someone
walking out the door and the guy screamed, hey, thanks
for shoplifting. Okay, we're done.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's nice. Thank you community. Yes, yes, all right, Gary
and Shannon.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Next tomorrow morning it starts all over again because Amy's back,
and it's Amy and Will five o'clock wake up call,
and then from six to nine Neil and I jump aboard.
We'll talk about what happened with Prop fifty. We'll talk
what happened. Well, we know it's gonna happen with Prop fifty.
The Mayor's race a little bit up in the air,
and we got a lot going on. And don't forget
(22:17):
Ann and Kono always here to add to the festivities.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
This is KFI Am sixty you've been listening to the
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Speaker 1 (22:26):
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