July 23, 2025 • 27 mins
(July 23, 2025)
The administration wants women in the military to know their place. Artificial Intelligence replaces Bill Handel. Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about whether IV therapy for hangovers are for everybody and should you really be taking daily multi-vitamins?
The administration wants women in the military to know their place. Artificial Intelligence replaces Bill Handel. Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about whether IV therapy for hangovers are for everybody and should you really be taking daily multi-vitamins?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I am six forty bill Handle that day.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It is a Wednesday morning, July twenty, third day and
coming up next segment. Yeah, looking looking ahead for this one.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This is fun and that is based on discussion yesterday
we had about artificial intelligence, which we're gonna talk a
whole lot about over the next year, two years forever.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We I asked.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And create a rundown of the program and have AI
do it. She did, and then we talked about having
AI do a segment of the show.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Utilizing I guess me as a model.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And so we're gonna listen to a full segment of
this show, and I will be listening because it's not me,
it's artificial intelligence, and that's coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Can't wait for that, all right?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I want to talk about Pete Hegxith, who is our
Secretary of Defense, seems to be on a mission to
erase women from the top ranks of the armed forces
last week, removing the first female head of the US
Naval Academy. The Naval Academy was founded in eighteen forty eight.
Obviously it's a big part of the history of the
United States didn't admit its first class of women until
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nineteen seventy six. Annapolis would not get the first female
admiral in that position until twenty twenty four. Now, the
first woman to serve has been reassigned and replaced by
a man, first time in america An Academy's history, the
role went to a marine.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Last week the Navy removed Vice Admiral Yvette David's, replaced
her with a man, Lieutenant General Michael borg Schult, and
the Marine David's at the meantime has been sent over
to the Pentagon. She's going to be Deputy Chief of
Naval Operations, which is a great job, but it's kind
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of invisible.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It doesn't have a whole lot of power.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And no reason was given at all for reassigning David's superintendents.
Those who had the academy typically served three to five years.
She was pulled after eighteen months. And right now there's
been a firing spree throughout the military, especially when it
comes to women from senior position. This past winner, Admiral
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Lisa Franchetti, the first female chief of Napal Operations gone.
Admiral Linda Fagan, first female Coastguard commandant, gone commandant, Lieutenant
General Jennifer Short, who was serving as a senior military
assistant to the Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They were all fired within weeks of one another.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now, those who work directly for the Secretary of Defense, okay,
I can understand a clean sweep where you have people
or you have people that have moved up in the
Department of Defense. You have certainly former military leaders. You
have admirals who've been in this military for many years.
(03:13):
Hex Seth has never been in any administrative job within
the Department of Defense. He came out of well being
a talk show host on or a contributor on Fox
and has so he has nobody that came with him,
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as other secretaries do, other cabinet members do.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
At this point, women have been cleared out of the.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Military's top jobs, not likely to be replaced by other women.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Certainly hasn't yet.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Of the three dozen four star officers on active duty
in the US the Armed Forces, not one as female.
None of the pending appoint for senior jobs, even at
a three star level, much less a four star general,
is a woman.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Heeg Sas wrote in his book.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The War on warriors that social engineering by the American
left is what's happening to the armed services. The American
people have always rejected the radical feminists so called Equal
Rights Amendment Team Obama could fast track social engineering through
the military's top down.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Chain of command.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, it's not that individual women can't be courageous, he said,
ambitious and honorable. I know many phenomenal female soldiers. The
problem is the left needs every woman to be as
successful as every man, so they've redefined success in a
counter productive way. By the way, social engineering is not
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a problem when heads rights and this was what happened
and in nineteen ninety five rather than now, he writes.
The military has always been about social engineering, forging young
men with skills, discipline, pride, and brotherhood, not women. Men
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and women are different, men being more aggressive, he writes,
Men act differently towards women than they do other men.
Men and women are well. Men like women, are distracted
by women. They want to impress, they want to protect women.
It's not a question of fighting. And that was the
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argument that's been used over and over again in the military,
not allowing women at all to be in the military
for years and years and then the fight having women
in the military. It's just different. Men look at women.
You don't want a woman in a fox hole with you?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Really? Why not? And then I remember the first woman.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Fighter pilot, which goes to in terms of naval aviation,
for example, goes to the.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Number one student.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Coming out of Minnapolis, and that student inevitably goes for
naval aviation fighter jets, and there was a woman who
happened to be this is the first woman pilot a
fighter jet.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
She was number one in the class. Hey, what are
you gonna do with that?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Say, oh no, you can't be a pilot on that level,
even though you're number one, So we're gonna skip by you.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's politically unfeasible.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And so if you're a woman and you're looking for
a career in the military, I guess you can because
by the time you hit senior level, where there are
promotions to be had and firings to be done, then
it's going to be a different administration. And I'm assuming
at this point automatic promotions are at the same level
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between men and women. You're in the military X number
of years, you get promoted up. It's that simple. Assuming
that You've done your job, and I don't think at
the lower level men have any advantage over women.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
All right, let's have some fun.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yesterday I had asked and to create a rundown of
our show. Topic by topic was what Anne does with
me every morning, and she had a I do that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'm going to have her read that.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And then we went beyond that, and I asked Anne
and Clay, who happened to help her, he's our imagy
guy here at KFI, to put together or to have
chat GPT, I think is where they went to put
together this this segment, and the I think chat GPT
chose it and they oh, okay, And so I'm going
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to be listening to you to the same time you are.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But first and can you do the rundown? Do you
have that available?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Absolutely? Okay, real quickly.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I basically asked it to put together a Bill Handle
Morning show one hour. So it went through the opening monologue,
hot topics, but then it said handle it or not
where Bill presents controversial listener questions, then deep dive in
depth conversations with guests, experts, Bill fixes it, and it's
(08:35):
a call in or submitted questions. Handle the heat rapid
fire Q and A from listeners, and then the closing
bit is funny fake ad or weird law.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Of the day. That's it. Oh so they sort of
mixed up Handle.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
On the law.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, this is what it pulled from, obviously the Internet.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So now, and I have not heard this before, we
are having artificial intelligence create a segment, this segment of
the show, which I didn't do, and I want to
listen to it at the same time you're listening to.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
It, I think, really, are you still talking?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, I'm not saying a word.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, this is truly manufactured by AI.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
All right, cono, good morning world, or at least the
unfortunate part of it. Tuned in right now, I'm Bill
Handle and this is the show where common sense goes
to court, gets delayed for six months, and still walks
out with a parking ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
All right, let's talk about the big boogeyman in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
AI, Artificial intelligence. You've heard the headlines, right, AI is
going to take over everything. AI can write novels, AI
can do your taxes. AI can replace your therapist. Yeah,
well guess what. AI can also make a pizza write
a love letter and steal your job, all before you
finish your coffee. Let's break it down, folks. AI is
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already replacing cashiers, pairalegals, copywriters, customer service agents, and get this,
radio hosts. That's right, somewhere out there, there's a synthetic
voice trying to sound just like me, except it doesn't
need bathroom breaks, it won't unionize, and can't be sued
for defamation. Yet you know who's safe from AI? Plumbers
(10:32):
because until a robot can crawl under your sink, avoid
the spider nest and not complain about it. Wan, the
plumber still has job security. Same with electricians, roofers and
whoever knows how to fix your Wi Fi without crying.
But you, you, with the marketing degree and the resume
that says detail oriented team player, You're first on the
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chopping block. Now, Silicon Valley will tell you AI will
make our lives easier. Sure, right after it makes half
the population unemployed, they'll say this is just like the
Industrial Revolution. Yeah, except back then the machines didn't write
poetry or flirt with your girlfriend. Let me be clear.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
AI isn't smart, It's just fast.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
AI is a glorified copy machine with access to the
entire Internet and zero shame. It doesn't understand, it doesn't feel,
and it's sure as heck doesn't worry about rent. Here's
my advice, Learn a skill it can't fake, like critical thinking, plumbing,
or saying no to a meeting. Stop relying on buzzwords
like synergy. The robots already speak fluent, nonsense and most importantly,
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make yourself too annoying to replace. Loud, opinionated, unpredictable. Be
like me, because trust me, no AI wants to handle that.
Here's Amy King live from the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
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Yes, we have quite the backup on the four h
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and we have a massive cleanup that needs to happen
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Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm Will Cole Schreiber.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
First of all, I didn't know Amy or Will or
part of that segment that is one hundred percent manufactured
by artificial intelligence, even to the point where at the
time that was put together, that was the traffic at
that moment.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And wow, but obviously it went off the rails at
the end there.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Because Will would never say anything like that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
No, of course not. You know, you have to know that,
you know that sounded awfully good.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Now you could tell it was a little bit off,
a little bit, but it's getting better and better.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean, I was stunned at how good it is.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Will.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know you were looking and going, oh my god, yeah, Amy,
what did you.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Think I sounded like a computer?
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Well?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
You always do, Do I sound like a computer?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well what I was talking to Clay Rowe. But thank
you Clay for doing this. Our imaging director. He put
this all together. And I asked him the same thing
about you sounding a little bit more robotic, and he said,
because there's less to pull from for you, from you
and your voice, and because you read news, it's a little.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Bit more, you know, robotic. But I also write and
deliver the news.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, robotically.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Uh all right, what Will said?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay, fair enough, all right, we are done. That was fascinating.
That really was I I was, it was freaky.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It was. It was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That's AI replacing all of us, and I thought I
was exempt. There's no chance. I mean, it's gonna be
coming up Monday morning. It's going to be a lot
cheaper to run this show. I guarantee you. Expenses are
going to drop considerably. All right, coming up Jim Keeney,
and I want to ask him about his version of AI,
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and I think this all may be connected.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Wow, God, I love that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, Jim Keeney, It's time for Jim, chief medical
Officer for Dignity Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Good morning, Jim, Good morning Bill.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
All Right, we have, and you and I have sat
many times over lunch and dinner and talked about your
new job after thirty five years in the er where
you became chief medical officer for the hospital in Long Beach,
and we talked about your job, how it is to
make administration leaner, to have doctors do a better job,
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make it easier for them, and basically bring the hospital
into an administrative easy flow, to get as much revenue
as possible, to lose the smallest amount of money possible.
So that's your job as you figure all of this out.
(15:41):
Is artificial intelligence any part of that that you're looking at?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Yeah, sure, I mean artificial intelligence I think is going
to be a big part of medicine in the future. Clearly,
there's so many applications. We could go on and on
for an hour segment on all the different applications right now.
You know, one area I know it's being used not
at my hospital, but at other hospitals I'm associated with.
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There's an ambient AI. So it listens to the interaction
between the doctor and the patient. And so it starts with,
you know, the doctor walking in and asking for permission
and so then the AI records that permission that we
have to do it. Then it records the whole thing
and prints out a note. So now instead of the
doctor after five minutes in the patient, walking out and
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spending ten minutes documenting and writing everything down and then
writing orders, this thing has your entire note already written
and has the orders pre like populated on the screen
that you discuss with the patient that you're going to do.
And it might even remind you if you put it
in an order and you forget. It might say, hey,
you told the patient that you're going to give them,
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give them time and all, and you may want to
order that, and it'll remind.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
You of that. So I mean, that's that's here and present.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
There are ais that will look at X rays for example.
Now I don't know that I trust it to re
x rays yet, even though some of these programs may
be doing a better chop than some people reading X rays.
But what it does is it takes the X ray.
You know, if a radiologist in the emergency department has
twenty X rays to read it, or may say twenty
cat scans, it takes the one with the most critical
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finding and puts it on the top. So that now
a real human can review it, but at least you're
reviewing the most important one first. So these are the
and then you know, and differential diagnosis.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
That's the hardest part.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
As a doctor, right you walk in with a headache
and a sore throat and a fever, Well, that could
be a million different things. You may forget that, oh,
this person is at a higher risk for something very
specific they toxic shock syndrome or something rare, and that
might not be in your differential diagnosis. This will remind
you to do that, to think about that.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So it pulls all the notes that that has been
written by doctors over the years regarding that patient and
looks at all of us all of that and then
suggest a course some action.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:02):
I mean we are getting better at coordinating medical records
so that I can see medical records from other facilities
that cooperate. So you know, it's not that I can
see like I can't at this stage in a lot
of places, you can't see the doctor offices notes like
there are hospitals that are sharing data and that we
can see what you know. Again, you have to click through,
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ask the patient for permission. Can I look at your
medical records at such and such a facility. Now you
click you know a that testation that you've done that,
and you go through to that other hospital. I can
see the records, but I can't for private doctor's offices.
So that's a weakness. But in the future, once if
we can connect these things. Now people are scared of that.
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Right now, your records are that easily available, but it
really helps streamline medicine, make sure things are not you know,
overly repetitive. We're not getting extra tests that your doctor
already did those types of things.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, listen, I understand privacy.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
For example, I don't want you as if I have
nothing to do if I'm going in for a sore
throat or a broken bone. I don't want you to
know if I've had STDs before three times. But when
you talk about the efficacy of the machine the AI
discerning whether a bone is broken or cancer or seen
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in a mammogram, have there been studies done comparing a
radiologist's reading of it and an AI view of it.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yes, yeah, and they it depends on what you call
a good job. It's kind of complicated, right, So what
you're looking for is both will undercall and miss certain things.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Both will overcall.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
And call things that aren't there kind of a hallucinating
or imaginating you see something. And then in the end
if you say to a surgery and you find out
that neither saw and there was something there, then they
can miss things altogether. So you know, the AI does
tend to overcall a bit, and and so you're going
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to get more false what we call false positives. But
they miss less because there's they don't they don't ever fatigue, right,
they don't ever look away. They don't ever get a
phone call in the middle of reading your X ray
and then have to go back and wonder where they
lust off in the X ray possibly, you know what
I mean. There's human factors really play a role when
they're when the rare error occurs. But computers don't suffer
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from that problem. They suffer from overcalling. They see things
that aren't there.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
When and just and we have to take a break
in just a second, but give me a timeline. When
do you think you are going to trust AI diagnosis
more so than a doctor looking at a patient.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I mean, I already trust it pretty well to come
up with a different differential diagnosis to make the final diagnosis.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
You know, I don't know. I don't know when I'm
going to trust.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
I don't know how we'll we'll get to that stage
where we know for sure. But I think it's soon.
I think it's sooner than we all think. And that's
what we have a residency program, and I tell our residents. Look,
you know, you need to bring more value to the
table than just you know, knowing the right test to
order and knowing the right diagnosis. You know, that's not
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what people are going to be paying you for in
the future, right, That's going to be done by a machine,
and you're going to have to bring more than that.
You're going to have to bring a human connection, a
reason they want to talk to somebody, you know, some
level of compassion, even though these the AI actually outscores
humans on compassion.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Isn't that interesting? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So bringing somebody to the table, you better be a
good left fielder for the hospital softball team, all right,
Jim daily multi vitem is I take them every day,
And obviously it's a multi billion dollar business.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I have heard a contradictory opinions on this one.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, they actually do something and the other side is
it is a complete croc and it's merely a marketing
ployee to sell these capsules which don't do much.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Where do you sit on this?
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yeah, So again, this is going to be interesting, right
because the science is lacking to support the use of
multi vitamins in general for the general population, especially to
the extent to which they're used. Like eighty percent of
American population takes multi vitamins, so they're used almost ubiquitously.
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Everybody's taken them.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
On the other hand, they're so cheap, and you know
there are so you know, it's kind of a safety
net in my mind, right, who in their diet, you know,
take a perfectly balanced diet, And especially the way diets
have changed recently, people go out to eat more. I've
seen figures as high as fifty percent of people's the
average Americans meals are outside the home. And so are
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we really getting a balanced diet anymore? And I don't
know the answer to that one. It has improved, I mean,
our diets have improved over the decades. You know, people
now aware of trans fats, those have been almost eliminated.
People are aware of the importance of fiber. We're still
not there people are aware that sodium is not good
for you. We still take too much sodium. But you know, overall,
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our diets have somewhat improved over the decades as far
as food, you know, quality and availability.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And what people are choosing to eat.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
But at the same time, calorie intake has gone up.
Obcd's gone up. So that I relate this all to
diet and intake, and for that reason, I take a
multivitamin too.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I was going to ask you that, but how do
they metabolize these pills, the vitamins do they actually go
into the body and or utilize the same way. For example,
you would get vitamin C out of a are in orange.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
So these are almost all of them are water soluble vitamins,
and water water soluble items are absorbed real quick, real easily.
But the problem is they're also excreted very quickly and
very easily, so any excess you take. And that's why
water soluble vitamins are a little safer. And that's not
the type vitamin you buy, that's that's just inherent in
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You know, vitamin C is soluble in water. You know,
vitamin A, vitamin E are not soluble in water. So
the non ones that can't dissolve in water. Those are
kind of more fatty vitamins. Those ones can accumulate in
your fat tissue, they don't get excreted, and those are
the ones that are dangerous to overdo. Right, So if
you you can overdose on vitamin A or vitamin E.
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Another one is, you know, vitamin D. There's a lot
of deficiency and vitamin D even when people who are
getting enough sun exposure. You know, I'm shocked at all
the people who get tested in southern California for.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
D and they're low.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
So that's another vitamin that I make sure it's either
in my vultamatim or I take an extra one.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
And then so I think that there's for the low
cost and the low risk, there is value in taking
an extra vitamin every day.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Are we getting a lot out.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Of it as much as as marketing would lead you
to believe, Probably not.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
They're probably not.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
But you do it because there's enough there in your
opinion that it's worth whatever amount of the good stuff.
I guess the vitamins okay, fair enough, you know what
I have tried, and those are the pills, so supplements
that make you bigger, stronger, girthier, and those don't work
(25:43):
at all.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know that, don't you.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Are penis and largerment pills pretty much?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much you had a feeling.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
I don't think anybody else would have caught that necessarily,
but with you for sure. And yeah, as far as
as far as I know, those aren't working very well.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, Well, I've tried them all and so far, so bad. Jim,
we will do this again next Wenday. I'm sure we're
going to talk during the week.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You have a good one.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, go kill someone, Okay, as I always tell you
at the end of this segment.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
All right, guys, we are done. That's it. Coming up.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Gary and Shannon back again tomorrow. Amy and Will are
here with wake up Call from five to six.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I will come aboard at six.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Neil comes back next week, and then Cono and Ad
of course are always here and making sure the show
sort of kind of maybe runs on time. Yeah, well,
you know, yeah, there, it is a good point. You
don't have to say that anymore. All right, Kno will
not be here tomorrow, by the way, we will have
(26:49):
someone else.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
This is kfi Am sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay, you've been listening to the Bill Handle Show, Catch
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I am six forty bill Handle that day.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
It is a Wednesday morning, July twenty, third day and
coming up next segment. Yeah, looking looking ahead for this one.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This is fun and that is based on discussion yesterday
we had about artificial intelligence, which we're gonna talk a
whole lot about over the next year, two years forever.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We I asked.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And create a rundown of the program and have AI
do it. She did, and then we talked about having
AI do a segment of the show.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Utilizing I guess me as a model.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And so we're gonna listen to a full segment of
this show, and I will be listening because it's not me,
it's artificial intelligence, and that's coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Can't wait for that, all right?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I want to talk about Pete Hegxith, who is our
Secretary of Defense, seems to be on a mission to
erase women from the top ranks of the armed forces
last week, removing the first female head of the US
Naval Academy. The Naval Academy was founded in eighteen forty eight.
Obviously it's a big part of the history of the
United States didn't admit its first class of women until
(01:22):
nineteen seventy six. Annapolis would not get the first female
admiral in that position until twenty twenty four. Now, the
first woman to serve has been reassigned and replaced by
a man, first time in america An Academy's history, the
role went to a marine.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Last week the Navy removed Vice Admiral Yvette David's, replaced
her with a man, Lieutenant General Michael borg Schult, and
the Marine David's at the meantime has been sent over
to the Pentagon. She's going to be Deputy Chief of
Naval Operations, which is a great job, but it's kind
(02:04):
of invisible.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It doesn't have a whole lot of power.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And no reason was given at all for reassigning David's superintendents.
Those who had the academy typically served three to five years.
She was pulled after eighteen months. And right now there's
been a firing spree throughout the military, especially when it
comes to women from senior position. This past winner, Admiral
(02:30):
Lisa Franchetti, the first female chief of Napal Operations gone.
Admiral Linda Fagan, first female Coastguard commandant, gone commandant, Lieutenant
General Jennifer Short, who was serving as a senior military
assistant to the Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
They were all fired within weeks of one another.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now, those who work directly for the Secretary of Defense, okay,
I can understand a clean sweep where you have people
or you have people that have moved up in the
Department of Defense. You have certainly former military leaders. You
have admirals who've been in this military for many years.
(03:13):
Hex Seth has never been in any administrative job within
the Department of Defense. He came out of well being
a talk show host on or a contributor on Fox
and has so he has nobody that came with him,
(03:34):
as other secretaries do, other cabinet members do.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
At this point, women have been cleared out of the.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Military's top jobs, not likely to be replaced by other women.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Certainly hasn't yet.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Of the three dozen four star officers on active duty
in the US the Armed Forces, not one as female.
None of the pending appoint for senior jobs, even at
a three star level, much less a four star general,
is a woman.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Heeg Sas wrote in his book.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The War on warriors that social engineering by the American
left is what's happening to the armed services. The American
people have always rejected the radical feminists so called Equal
Rights Amendment Team Obama could fast track social engineering through
the military's top down.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Chain of command.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, it's not that individual women can't be courageous, he said,
ambitious and honorable. I know many phenomenal female soldiers. The
problem is the left needs every woman to be as
successful as every man, so they've redefined success in a
counter productive way. By the way, social engineering is not
(04:54):
a problem when heads rights and this was what happened
and in nineteen ninety five rather than now, he writes.
The military has always been about social engineering, forging young
men with skills, discipline, pride, and brotherhood, not women. Men
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and women are different, men being more aggressive, he writes,
Men act differently towards women than they do other men.
Men and women are well. Men like women, are distracted
by women. They want to impress, they want to protect women.
It's not a question of fighting. And that was the
(05:35):
argument that's been used over and over again in the military,
not allowing women at all to be in the military
for years and years and then the fight having women
in the military. It's just different. Men look at women.
You don't want a woman in a fox hole with you?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Really? Why not? And then I remember the first woman.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Fighter pilot, which goes to in terms of naval aviation,
for example, goes to the.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Number one student.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Coming out of Minnapolis, and that student inevitably goes for
naval aviation fighter jets, and there was a woman who
happened to be this is the first woman pilot a
fighter jet.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
She was number one in the class. Hey, what are
you gonna do with that?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Say, oh no, you can't be a pilot on that level,
even though you're number one, So we're gonna skip by you.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's politically unfeasible.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And so if you're a woman and you're looking for
a career in the military, I guess you can because
by the time you hit senior level, where there are
promotions to be had and firings to be done, then
it's going to be a different administration. And I'm assuming
at this point automatic promotions are at the same level
(07:05):
between men and women. You're in the military X number
of years, you get promoted up. It's that simple. Assuming
that You've done your job, and I don't think at
the lower level men have any advantage over women.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
All right, let's have some fun.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yesterday I had asked and to create a rundown of
our show. Topic by topic was what Anne does with
me every morning, and she had a I do that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'm going to have her read that.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And then we went beyond that, and I asked Anne
and Clay, who happened to help her, he's our imagy
guy here at KFI, to put together or to have
chat GPT, I think is where they went to put
together this this segment, and the I think chat GPT
chose it and they oh, okay, And so I'm going
(08:03):
to be listening to you to the same time you are.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
But first and can you do the rundown? Do you
have that available?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Absolutely? Okay, real quickly.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I basically asked it to put together a Bill Handle
Morning show one hour. So it went through the opening monologue,
hot topics, but then it said handle it or not
where Bill presents controversial listener questions, then deep dive in
depth conversations with guests, experts, Bill fixes it, and it's
(08:35):
a call in or submitted questions. Handle the heat rapid
fire Q and A from listeners, and then the closing
bit is funny fake ad or weird law.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Of the day. That's it. Oh so they sort of
mixed up Handle.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
On the law.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, this is what it pulled from, obviously the Internet.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So now, and I have not heard this before, we
are having artificial intelligence create a segment, this segment of
the show, which I didn't do, and I want to
listen to it at the same time you're listening to.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
It, I think, really, are you still talking?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, I'm not saying a word.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, this is truly manufactured by AI.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I had nothing to do with this.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
All right, cono, good morning world, or at least the
unfortunate part of it. Tuned in right now, I'm Bill
Handle and this is the show where common sense goes
to court, gets delayed for six months, and still walks
out with a parking ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
All right, let's talk about the big boogeyman in the room.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
AI, Artificial intelligence. You've heard the headlines, right, AI is
going to take over everything. AI can write novels, AI
can do your taxes. AI can replace your therapist. Yeah,
well guess what. AI can also make a pizza write
a love letter and steal your job, all before you
finish your coffee. Let's break it down, folks. AI is
(10:10):
already replacing cashiers, pairalegals, copywriters, customer service agents, and get this,
radio hosts. That's right, somewhere out there, there's a synthetic
voice trying to sound just like me, except it doesn't
need bathroom breaks, it won't unionize, and can't be sued
for defamation. Yet you know who's safe from AI? Plumbers
(10:32):
because until a robot can crawl under your sink, avoid
the spider nest and not complain about it. Wan, the
plumber still has job security. Same with electricians, roofers and
whoever knows how to fix your Wi Fi without crying.
But you, you, with the marketing degree and the resume
that says detail oriented team player, You're first on the
(10:53):
chopping block. Now, Silicon Valley will tell you AI will
make our lives easier. Sure, right after it makes half
the population unemployed, they'll say this is just like the
Industrial Revolution. Yeah, except back then the machines didn't write
poetry or flirt with your girlfriend. Let me be clear.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
AI isn't smart, It's just fast.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
AI is a glorified copy machine with access to the
entire Internet and zero shame. It doesn't understand, it doesn't feel,
and it's sure as heck doesn't worry about rent. Here's
my advice, Learn a skill it can't fake, like critical thinking, plumbing,
or saying no to a meeting. Stop relying on buzzwords
like synergy. The robots already speak fluent, nonsense and most importantly,
(11:39):
make yourself too annoying to replace. Loud, opinionated, unpredictable. Be
like me, because trust me, no AI wants to handle that.
Here's Amy King live from the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
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Yes, we have quite the backup on the four h
five South at sunset. Looks like a truckload of tomatoes overturned,
and we have a massive cleanup that needs to happen
pretty quickly. Right now, it looks like everyone is squeezing
over into the far left lane to pass. Bill Handle
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Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm Will Cole Schreiber.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
First of all, I didn't know Amy or Will or
part of that segment that is one hundred percent manufactured
by artificial intelligence, even to the point where at the
time that was put together, that was the traffic at
that moment.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And wow, but obviously it went off the rails at
the end there.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Because Will would never say anything like that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
No, of course not. You know, you have to know that,
you know that sounded awfully good.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Now you could tell it was a little bit off,
a little bit, but it's getting better and better.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean, I was stunned at how good it is.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Will.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know you were looking and going, oh my god, yeah, Amy,
what did you.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Think I sounded like a computer?
Speaker 8 (13:33):
Well?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
You always do, Do I sound like a computer?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well what I was talking to Clay Rowe. But thank
you Clay for doing this. Our imaging director. He put
this all together. And I asked him the same thing
about you sounding a little bit more robotic, and he said,
because there's less to pull from for you, from you
and your voice, and because you read news, it's a little.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Bit more, you know, robotic. But I also write and
deliver the news.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, robotically.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Uh all right, what Will said?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay, fair enough, all right, we are done. That was fascinating.
That really was I I was, it was freaky.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It was. It was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That's AI replacing all of us, and I thought I
was exempt. There's no chance. I mean, it's gonna be
coming up Monday morning. It's going to be a lot
cheaper to run this show. I guarantee you. Expenses are
going to drop considerably. All right, coming up Jim Keeney,
and I want to ask him about his version of AI,
(14:41):
and I think this all may be connected.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Wow, God, I love that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
All right, Jim Keeney, It's time for Jim, chief medical
Officer for Dignity Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Good morning, Jim, Good morning Bill.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
All Right, we have, and you and I have sat
many times over lunch and dinner and talked about your
new job after thirty five years in the er where
you became chief medical officer for the hospital in Long Beach,
and we talked about your job, how it is to
make administration leaner, to have doctors do a better job,
(15:20):
make it easier for them, and basically bring the hospital
into an administrative easy flow, to get as much revenue
as possible, to lose the smallest amount of money possible.
So that's your job as you figure all of this out.
(15:41):
Is artificial intelligence any part of that that you're looking at?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Yeah, sure, I mean artificial intelligence I think is going
to be a big part of medicine in the future. Clearly,
there's so many applications. We could go on and on
for an hour segment on all the different applications right now.
You know, one area I know it's being used not
at my hospital, but at other hospitals I'm associated with.
(16:06):
There's an ambient AI. So it listens to the interaction
between the doctor and the patient. And so it starts with,
you know, the doctor walking in and asking for permission
and so then the AI records that permission that we
have to do it. Then it records the whole thing
and prints out a note. So now instead of the
doctor after five minutes in the patient, walking out and
(16:26):
spending ten minutes documenting and writing everything down and then
writing orders, this thing has your entire note already written
and has the orders pre like populated on the screen
that you discuss with the patient that you're going to do.
And it might even remind you if you put it
in an order and you forget. It might say, hey,
you told the patient that you're going to give them,
(16:47):
give them time and all, and you may want to
order that, and it'll remind.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
You of that. So I mean, that's that's here and present.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
There are ais that will look at X rays for example.
Now I don't know that I trust it to re
x rays yet, even though some of these programs may
be doing a better chop than some people reading X rays.
But what it does is it takes the X ray.
You know, if a radiologist in the emergency department has
twenty X rays to read it, or may say twenty
cat scans, it takes the one with the most critical
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finding and puts it on the top. So that now
a real human can review it, but at least you're
reviewing the most important one first. So these are the
and then you know, and differential diagnosis.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
That's the hardest part.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
As a doctor, right you walk in with a headache
and a sore throat and a fever, Well, that could
be a million different things. You may forget that, oh,
this person is at a higher risk for something very
specific they toxic shock syndrome or something rare, and that
might not be in your differential diagnosis. This will remind
you to do that, to think about that.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So it pulls all the notes that that has been
written by doctors over the years regarding that patient and
looks at all of us all of that and then
suggest a course some action.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Do I have that right?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:02):
I mean we are getting better at coordinating medical records
so that I can see medical records from other facilities
that cooperate. So you know, it's not that I can
see like I can't at this stage in a lot
of places, you can't see the doctor offices notes like
there are hospitals that are sharing data and that we
can see what you know. Again, you have to click through,
(18:23):
ask the patient for permission. Can I look at your
medical records at such and such a facility. Now you
click you know a that testation that you've done that,
and you go through to that other hospital. I can
see the records, but I can't for private doctor's offices.
So that's a weakness. But in the future, once if
we can connect these things. Now people are scared of that.
(18:46):
Right now, your records are that easily available, but it
really helps streamline medicine, make sure things are not you know,
overly repetitive. We're not getting extra tests that your doctor
already did those types of things.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, listen, I understand privacy.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
For example, I don't want you as if I have
nothing to do if I'm going in for a sore
throat or a broken bone. I don't want you to
know if I've had STDs before three times. But when
you talk about the efficacy of the machine the AI
discerning whether a bone is broken or cancer or seen
(19:26):
in a mammogram, have there been studies done comparing a
radiologist's reading of it and an AI view of it.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yes, yeah, and they it depends on what you call
a good job. It's kind of complicated, right, So what
you're looking for is both will undercall and miss certain things.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Both will overcall.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
And call things that aren't there kind of a hallucinating
or imaginating you see something. And then in the end
if you say to a surgery and you find out
that neither saw and there was something there, then they
can miss things altogether. So you know, the AI does
tend to overcall a bit, and and so you're going
(20:09):
to get more false what we call false positives. But
they miss less because there's they don't they don't ever fatigue, right,
they don't ever look away. They don't ever get a
phone call in the middle of reading your X ray
and then have to go back and wonder where they
lust off in the X ray possibly, you know what
I mean. There's human factors really play a role when
they're when the rare error occurs. But computers don't suffer
(20:33):
from that problem. They suffer from overcalling. They see things
that aren't there.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
When and just and we have to take a break
in just a second, but give me a timeline. When
do you think you are going to trust AI diagnosis
more so than a doctor looking at a patient.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
I mean, I already trust it pretty well to come
up with a different differential diagnosis to make the final diagnosis.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
You know, I don't know. I don't know when I'm
going to trust.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
I don't know how we'll we'll get to that stage
where we know for sure. But I think it's soon.
I think it's sooner than we all think. And that's
what we have a residency program, and I tell our residents. Look,
you know, you need to bring more value to the
table than just you know, knowing the right test to
order and knowing the right diagnosis. You know, that's not
(21:23):
what people are going to be paying you for in
the future, right, That's going to be done by a machine,
and you're going to have to bring more than that.
You're going to have to bring a human connection, a
reason they want to talk to somebody, you know, some
level of compassion, even though these the AI actually outscores
humans on compassion.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Isn't that interesting? Interesting?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
So bringing somebody to the table, you better be a
good left fielder for the hospital softball team, all right,
Jim daily multi vitem is I take them every day,
And obviously it's a multi billion dollar business.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I have heard a contradictory opinions on this one.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, they actually do something and the other side is
it is a complete croc and it's merely a marketing
ployee to sell these capsules which don't do much.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Where do you sit on this?
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yeah, So again, this is going to be interesting, right
because the science is lacking to support the use of
multi vitamins in general for the general population, especially to
the extent to which they're used. Like eighty percent of
American population takes multi vitamins, so they're used almost ubiquitously.
(22:40):
Everybody's taken them.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
On the other hand, they're so cheap, and you know
there are so you know, it's kind of a safety
net in my mind, right, who in their diet, you know,
take a perfectly balanced diet, And especially the way diets
have changed recently, people go out to eat more. I've
seen figures as high as fifty percent of people's the
average Americans meals are outside the home. And so are
(23:06):
we really getting a balanced diet anymore? And I don't
know the answer to that one. It has improved, I mean,
our diets have improved over the decades. You know, people
now aware of trans fats, those have been almost eliminated.
People are aware of the importance of fiber. We're still
not there people are aware that sodium is not good
for you. We still take too much sodium. But you know, overall,
(23:27):
our diets have somewhat improved over the decades as far
as food, you know, quality and availability.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And what people are choosing to eat.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
But at the same time, calorie intake has gone up.
Obcd's gone up. So that I relate this all to
diet and intake, and for that reason, I take a
multivitamin too.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I was going to ask you that, but how do
they metabolize these pills, the vitamins do they actually go
into the body and or utilize the same way. For example,
you would get vitamin C out of a are in orange.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
So these are almost all of them are water soluble vitamins,
and water water soluble items are absorbed real quick, real easily.
But the problem is they're also excreted very quickly and
very easily, so any excess you take. And that's why
water soluble vitamins are a little safer. And that's not
the type vitamin you buy, that's that's just inherent in
(24:23):
You know, vitamin C is soluble in water. You know,
vitamin A, vitamin E are not soluble in water. So
the non ones that can't dissolve in water. Those are
kind of more fatty vitamins. Those ones can accumulate in
your fat tissue, they don't get excreted, and those are
the ones that are dangerous to overdo. Right, So if
you you can overdose on vitamin A or vitamin E.
(24:47):
Another one is, you know, vitamin D. There's a lot
of deficiency and vitamin D even when people who are
getting enough sun exposure. You know, I'm shocked at all
the people who get tested in southern California for.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
D and they're low.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
So that's another vitamin that I make sure it's either
in my vultamatim or I take an extra one.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
And then so I think that there's for the low
cost and the low risk, there is value in taking
an extra vitamin every day.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Are we getting a lot out.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Of it as much as as marketing would lead you
to believe, Probably not.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
They're probably not.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
But you do it because there's enough there in your
opinion that it's worth whatever amount of the good stuff.
I guess the vitamins okay, fair enough, you know what
I have tried, and those are the pills, so supplements
that make you bigger, stronger, girthier, and those don't work
(25:43):
at all.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
You know that, don't you.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Are penis and largerment pills pretty much?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much you had a feeling.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
I don't think anybody else would have caught that necessarily,
but with you for sure. And yeah, as far as
as far as I know, those aren't working very well.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, Well, I've tried them all and so far, so bad. Jim,
we will do this again next Wenday. I'm sure we're
going to talk during the week.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
You have a good one.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, go kill someone, Okay, as I always tell you
at the end of this segment.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
All right, guys, we are done. That's it. Coming up.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Gary and Shannon back again tomorrow. Amy and Will are
here with wake up Call from five to six.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I will come aboard at six.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Neil comes back next week, and then Cono and Ad
of course are always here and making sure the show
sort of kind of maybe runs on time. Yeah, well,
you know, yeah, there, it is a good point. You
don't have to say that anymore. All right, Kno will
not be here tomorrow, by the way, we will have
(26:49):
someone else.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
This is kfi Am sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
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