December 3, 2025 • 22 mins
(December 03, 2025)
San Francisco sues Coca-Cola, Kellogg over ultra processed foods. Ohio Senator introduces measure to eliminate dual citizenship. President Trump is threatening to attack Venezuela. Is college worth the cost? A majority of Americans say no.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Here it is Aday, Wednesday, December third, and we've got
some trending news. The United States is no longer part
of World AIDS Day because the I think we're going
to hear from the White House an official statement is
that AIDS in and of itself is fake news. It's
(00:31):
just we've been there since the eighties and so well
Trump administration said, we are we are out of it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I want to give you a little cocaine news, okay,
and I know how does this connect with kids and
processed foods?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Neil, you're giving me the look.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
When I was a cocaine addict lo many years ago,
one of the things that happened. You would buy cocaine
and it used to be sometimes in little rocks, and
there was something called the Deeries deering grinder where you
would put it in and grind it up so it
was snortable and then the real fine particles you would snort.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And that was with cocaine.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're now finding that kids are doing the same thing
with Oreo cookies. They are grinding up these cookies and
snorting them. And what is happening is San Francisco. The
city is the first entity to sue the major companies
Coca Cola, Kellogg's, Mondez that all these major companies ultra
(01:37):
processed foods and they want to do exactly what we did.
The big tobacco admit that you knew these foods were
bad for kids, and keep on marketing them to kids.
O Neil, First of all, what is process How do
you define processed foods?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
First?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You got to tip your hat to Cono for playing
Henry Mancini's March Elephants, I think is what it was,
or like that AnyWho very well done. So when the
industry food industry jumps in and they make calculations and
formulations that are made from additives, from extracts from these
(02:18):
things that are parts.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Of food but no whole foods, they put preservatives in there.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
In place of those things, they put sugar, salt, unhealthy fats,
artificial colors, flavors and things that will extend the shelf
life preservatives. That is ultra processed everything. Almost everything you
consume is a processed food in some way. If you
go to a restaurant that's processed they cooked it, they
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cut it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's one thing that's fat basic fabrication.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Ultra processed foods are when there's very little food substance
and it's pieces and parts of foods that they've kind
of packed each together to make something crunchy and something
you can eat but has low nutrients, has other chemicals
and things that are more about the marketing of it
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rather than the food capabilities of it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's kind of what it comes down to, and it is.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I mean, we're talking about nuggets made out of chicken feet,
which when you put enough chemicals and preservatives, they're crunchy
and they taste pretty good. And what you're eating is
also parts of cows that you wouldn't normally eat. And
I don't want to get into that, but two things.
Number one, doesn't it make the food taste better?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And number two, how dangerous is it? And we don't
know yet? Right Well, here's.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
A couple of things that bug me about this particular
topic is the demonizing of processed food. You have to
understand the difference of how something's processed, what's it's processed with.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Or people that say I.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Will never eat anything with more than five ingredients in it.
If you looked at the general makeup of an apple
chemically and an orange chemically, it has more than five
ingredients in it has more than five chemicals in it.
So it's not just the chemical it's not just the
amount of chemicals. It's not just processing, because there's some
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things that need processing that are still good. You know,
you process sugarcane, but it doesn't make it bad. It's
only when you ultraprocess and you make it white sugar
and you overprocess and do these things. But it's also
habit bill in the seventies way that have these things
because we had at least one parent at home, We
(04:42):
had dinners made, and we didn't try and bring the
the grocery store home.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Don't you want a grocery store in your house so
you shop all these things instead of for dinner each
day or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Two questions, and we have to run out of here
because our break is coming up. Where does it cross
the line where you reach ultra processed and I don't
think that's been defined yet. And then the marketing of
this to kids, and this is the big issue San
Francisco not saying stop this, just stop marketing to kids,
(05:16):
much like big tobacco. Remember that lawsuit in the nineties
in which everything changed.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
If you could answer those two and then we're out
of here.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You can't separate at the marketing to kids, because if
it's crunchy and colorful and these types of things, it's
marketed to kids and people. And I don't know how
you separate those things. But as far as.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The content, when the content is.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Less food and structural things that you have to bring
to it to make it look more like food, and
the shelf life, the longer the shelf life through preservatives,
those are the big dangers. The non food stuffs and
the preservative to me are the worst offenders of this.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
In mind that they take the more process, the better
it tasts. And I'm going to argue even science has
proven the better they are for you ulster process equals health.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yes, they've taken the health out of it, just giving
you the crunch. We're done, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Ooh, here's an interesting one. A little bit of history.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
All right. In nineteen fifty seven, my parents with me
come in the United States, and they were Brazilian citizens.
And in those days when they swore their citizenship and
you have to swear you want to be a citizen,
Q had to give up any other citizenship. You have
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to have exclusive allegiance to the United States. Well that changed,
that changed pretty dramatically in nineteen sixty seven. That changed
that you no longer have to swear soul legiance to
the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So we're all citizens of Brazil.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
My parents became citizens of the United States and no
longer citizens of Brazil because they renounced Brazilian citizenship. I
am still a citizen of Brazil and the United States
because I was eleven years old and I eleven year old.
Kids don't swear allegiance or don't swear allegiance. You just
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stay where you are. So I am a citizen of both,
and I can apply for additional citizenship for example, as
you know, when I retire, I want to spend some
time in Italy and here, and I don't have to
swear allegiance. Well maybe I do because now when you well,
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I don't have to swear because I'm already a citizen.
But new citizens have to have sole and exclusive allegiance
the United States. Going back before sixty seven, and Senator
Bernie Moreno of Ohio Republican is introduced to bill, the
Exclusive Citizenship Act of twenty twenty five, saying, it's real simple.
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If you swear allegiance to the United States, you cannot
have allegiance to any other country.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
We need people in this country to only look at
American citizenship as their sole citizenship.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So that changed, and.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now he wants to go back to the days in
which my parents relinquished their Brazilian citizenship.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And there are a bunch of rules here.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Those who have dual citizenship would have to submit a
written renunciation of foreign citizenship to the Secretary of State,
a written renunciation of US citizenship to the Secretary of
Homeland Security. And if I don't comply, because I'm a
dual citizen, if I don't comply, I will deemed to
have voluntarily relinquished my US citizenship.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Now that gets that's pretty out there.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And what Moreno said, being an American citizen is an
honor and privilege.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'll buy that. And if if you want to be
American it's all or nothing. I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And it's time to end dual citizenship for good. Now.
The reality is I am not alone I am technically.
I am technically a Brazilian citizen, and that's it. My
allegiance is to this country. I am applying for citizenship
for a Polish citizenship for two reasons. Number One, if
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I want to live anywhere in Europe and I have
a European Union passport, there are twenty eight countries they
are in European Union, of which Poland is one, I
basically become a citizen of all of Europe, or at
least those that are p part of the treaty.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And so for me it makes it real easy.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm not a when I go into Europe and I
want to live there, I'm a citizen. Now does that
mean I am a citizen and my allegiance is to Poland?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Absolutely not. So the other.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Reason that I want to be a Polish citizen is
because I want to be the butt of Polish jokes.
I just like the idea, right, how does Bill handle
screw in a light bulb?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I just happen to.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like that, Or how many handles does it take to
screw in a light bulb?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And the answer is everybody in his family.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So I have a hard time with this, in which
dual citizenship is connected somehow to not being not having
allegiance to the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I truly don't.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Now I'll tell you other countries don't recognize American citizenship
when I go to Brazil. I went to Brazil with
my American passport when I was eighteen. I went down
there to visit and there it was born in Brazil.
Brazil doesn't recognize that I was American. I'm Brazilian when
I walk in the door.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And guess what.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
They draft people when they are eighteen years old. I
was drafted by the Brazilian army and the rule was
if I serve in a foreign army military service, then
I lose my citizenship. But I still I still get drafted. Well,
(11:39):
thank god, I was able to buy myself out of there.
It was so corrupt down there. It cost me one
hundred dollars in a bottle of whisky. And my family
got really angry with me because they say, you could
have done this for fifty dollars. So I'm a citizen
and I will be a citizen of three countries. Is
my allegiance to the United States any less? It is not.
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And what this senator wants to do is make sure
that only American citizens or only people who are applying
to or have dual citizenship, swear allegiance.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
To the United States.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean, I guess there's a point to it, but yeah,
I don't know, you know, I mean, that's stretching, it
really is.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
All right. Now, a word about what's going on in
the world of oil.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Venezuela and the president the United States appears to be
ready for war with Venezuela, and the President has effectively
not taken anything off the table, and it's all has
to do with Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela. And
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the argument is that these boats, these cigarette boats, because
they're really fast, that's what they're called, have drugs in them,
and frankly, the US is boiling them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The bits, which I completely agree with.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The problem is this is sort of a declaration of
war and the United States really doesn't have the right
to do this. But the fact that the administration has
said that these we're at war with these people gives
him a break, and it is argued they are arguing
they have a right to do this. Now, a couple
(13:26):
things about Venezuela, which is really interesting because the argument
is This is not about drugs. This is about oil.
And I don't know if this is true or not.
You can't accuse Trump of everything, although I come pretty close.
Venezuela is sitting on the largest reserve of oil on
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the planet. We think of Saudi Arabia, we think of
the United States, which produces the most oil, not even close.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
However, Maduro is the president of Venezuela and he has
almost single handedly destroyed the country. Now actually the country
the Maduro government Hugo is it Chavez that took control
before Maduro in twenty thirteen, and it is now pumping
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out less than a third of what it was before
nineteen ninety nine when this quote socialist government took over.
And they just don't pump off the oil. They're just
not getting the money. There are sanctions in place. The
international companies are not investing because it takes a huge investment.
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The oil involved here is very heavy oil and heavy
oil versus crude oil. Crude oil is for gasoline, that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Heavy duty oil.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Is for diesel fuel and other kinds of fossil fuels
that are needed. For example, ships take heavy oil. It's
like sludge actually to run massive ships. So is it
about oil or not. Venezuela used to used to be
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one of the world's greatest cities. It was by far
the wealthiest city in South America.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Caracas used to be on.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
The same level certainly in South America, as Paris, as London,
as New York.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It was at that level.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It is basically now a toilet because single handedly, what
Maduro has done is just drag it into the well
with toilet, much like what Mugabi did in Zimbabwe. Took
the wealthiest country in Africa and now makes it one
of the poorest country in Africa because you have one guy,
one guy who controls effectively destroying everything. And so is
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the president looking at oil? You know what?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't think so even the accusation is there.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think it is literally about the drug industry and
drugs coming out of Venezuela. What he should actually go
is to China where the fentanyl comes from, to Mexico,
to Colombia, who are far more involved in bringing drugs
into the country than Venezuela. But the geopolitics, how much
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does it hurt to go after Venezuela versus China versus Mexico.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
How would oil play into this because they have the
largest reserves in the world, I know, But what would
that mean, If that means, how we get our hands
on it.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Because well, we would have American investment in there because
it's already one major company, Atlantic Richfield is going in
and this oil is so valuable and it affects it
affects the world market for oil, so oil becomes cheaper,
American companies make buckets of money, and it just helps
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us to the greatest extent. We are probably going to
be the recipient of the greatest good on this. We're
going to be the biggest benefactor or the biggest recipient
of the oil being introduced into the world market. Problem
is going to take ten years, and it's going to
take billions and billions of dollars. And so, you know,
a third of Venezuela had the population is left. Everybody
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who has brains or marketable skills gone, and what you
have left is poor people who rely on governmental assistance.
So it's all subsidized in Venezuela. Well, you can't subsidize
an entire population if there's no money being manufactured, if
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businesses aren't working if oil is not being produced and used.
I mean, can you imagine a third of what was
produced is produced versus nineteen ninety nine a third? And
so here's the argument Trump is doing this oil.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't think so. He has an entire task force.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
An air carrier or a aircraft carrier task force in
the Caribbean now dealing with this.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Let me tell you that is not cheap. And then
the issue of the attacks.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
On those purported drug boats and what oh ma, that's
a fun one. The double tap what pete he sat
has done and said, changing his tune over the last
two days several times.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Now, a new poll NBC News poll.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Came out sixty three percent of US Americans believe that
a four year college degree is not worth the cost
because people graduate without specific job skills. I graduated in
political science. What the hell do you do with political science?
Who in a hire who has a political science degree?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What do they do? Specifically? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And so so no specific job skills, large amount of
debt to pay off. And a similar CNBC poll back
in twenty thirteen said that fifty three percent of Americans.
Now it's sixty three percent, and it has changed dramatically.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
What's happening.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, higher education has gotten so much more expensive, far
blowing out the amount of anything else. The cost of
inflation is just a fraction or the inflation's rate is
a fraction of what education has gone up. The labor
market has changed, AI has changed. My daughter who is
(19:42):
now getting a master's degree in computer science, I'm telling her,
you know what, learn how to make coffee and line
up to go to a Starbucks. My other daughter, by
the way, started just starting school working on her bachelor's
degree now in women's advocacy, whatever the hell that is,
(20:07):
and that is helping women deal with trauma and deal
with well women's issues, which I don't understand why she
would ever do that or anybody for that sake. The
bottom line is college was a very different, different animal.
I grew up in a household as many people do,
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where college was a given.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I mean, it was just like eating breakfast, you go
to college.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well those days are gone, and the college education is
so expensive. I funded my kid's college education the day
they were born, and I don't know if that money
and this eighteen years later and it's fully funded, I
don't know if that's enough money to pay for the
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college education.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So the answer is.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
To them and Amy, what do you think the answer
would be with a fully funded college education fund to
your kids?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
What do you think the answer would be. Yes, the
answer I will take it.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, the answer is, don't bother going to college. I
will take the money and I will use it because
I can do that because I'm a trustee of the
college fund. Now, if I take the money, which I'm
allowed to do by the way, I have to pay
ordinary income plus ten percent tax on top of that.
So it is horrifically expensive to take the money.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
So now we use it for education. No, you can
use it for anything you want. If you take the money,
you can grab the money.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It's trustee, I think, I can't you use it for education?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I can? Yeah, why would I do? What kind of
education am I going to get?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Right to get his degree? That's true, that would work,
That would work. You're right, Yeah, I never thought of that.
I was just thinking of just taking the money and
having a good time with it. So as my daughter's
and college, when we have the same conversation, you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Say, too bad.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You are out of luck and it doesn't make a
lot of sense to go to college These days, it
really doesn't. Long term, it still does, but college it's
a tough call, it really is.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It used to be really easy. He got out of
college at a great job.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
He made more money than anybody who had a vocational skill.
Today it's just not the same and college may not
be worth it, and the majority of Americans.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
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Here it is Aday, Wednesday, December third, and we've got
some trending news. The United States is no longer part
of World AIDS Day because the I think we're going
to hear from the White House an official statement is
that AIDS in and of itself is fake news. It's
(00:31):
just we've been there since the eighties and so well
Trump administration said, we are we are out of it.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I want to give you a little cocaine news, okay,
and I know how does this connect with kids and
processed foods?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Neil, you're giving me the look.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
When I was a cocaine addict lo many years ago,
one of the things that happened. You would buy cocaine
and it used to be sometimes in little rocks, and
there was something called the Deeries deering grinder where you
would put it in and grind it up so it
was snortable and then the real fine particles you would snort.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And that was with cocaine.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We're now finding that kids are doing the same thing
with Oreo cookies. They are grinding up these cookies and
snorting them. And what is happening is San Francisco. The
city is the first entity to sue the major companies
Coca Cola, Kellogg's, Mondez that all these major companies ultra
(01:37):
processed foods and they want to do exactly what we did.
The big tobacco admit that you knew these foods were
bad for kids, and keep on marketing them to kids.
O Neil, First of all, what is process How do
you define processed foods?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
First?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You got to tip your hat to Cono for playing
Henry Mancini's March Elephants, I think is what it was,
or like that AnyWho very well done. So when the
industry food industry jumps in and they make calculations and
formulations that are made from additives, from extracts from these
(02:18):
things that are parts.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Of food but no whole foods, they put preservatives in there.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
In place of those things, they put sugar, salt, unhealthy fats,
artificial colors, flavors and things that will extend the shelf
life preservatives. That is ultra processed everything. Almost everything you
consume is a processed food in some way. If you
go to a restaurant that's processed they cooked it, they
(02:46):
cut it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's one thing that's fat basic fabrication.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Ultra processed foods are when there's very little food substance
and it's pieces and parts of foods that they've kind
of packed each together to make something crunchy and something
you can eat but has low nutrients, has other chemicals
and things that are more about the marketing of it
(03:12):
rather than the food capabilities of it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's kind of what it comes down to, and it is.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I mean, we're talking about nuggets made out of chicken feet,
which when you put enough chemicals and preservatives, they're crunchy
and they taste pretty good. And what you're eating is
also parts of cows that you wouldn't normally eat. And
I don't want to get into that, but two things.
Number one, doesn't it make the food taste better?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And number two, how dangerous is it? And we don't
know yet? Right Well, here's.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
A couple of things that bug me about this particular
topic is the demonizing of processed food. You have to
understand the difference of how something's processed, what's it's processed with.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Or people that say I.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Will never eat anything with more than five ingredients in it.
If you looked at the general makeup of an apple
chemically and an orange chemically, it has more than five
ingredients in it has more than five chemicals in it.
So it's not just the chemical it's not just the
amount of chemicals. It's not just processing, because there's some
(04:20):
things that need processing that are still good. You know,
you process sugarcane, but it doesn't make it bad. It's
only when you ultraprocess and you make it white sugar
and you overprocess and do these things. But it's also
habit bill in the seventies way that have these things
because we had at least one parent at home, We
(04:42):
had dinners made, and we didn't try and bring the
the grocery store home.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Don't you want a grocery store in your house so
you shop all these things instead of for dinner each
day or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Two questions, and we have to run out of here
because our break is coming up. Where does it cross
the line where you reach ultra processed and I don't
think that's been defined yet. And then the marketing of
this to kids, and this is the big issue San
Francisco not saying stop this, just stop marketing to kids,
(05:16):
much like big tobacco. Remember that lawsuit in the nineties
in which everything changed.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
If you could answer those two and then we're out
of here.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You can't separate at the marketing to kids, because if
it's crunchy and colorful and these types of things, it's
marketed to kids and people. And I don't know how
you separate those things. But as far as.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The content, when the content is.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Less food and structural things that you have to bring
to it to make it look more like food, and
the shelf life, the longer the shelf life through preservatives,
those are the big dangers. The non food stuffs and
the preservative to me are the worst offenders of this.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
In mind that they take the more process, the better
it tasts. And I'm going to argue even science has
proven the better they are for you ulster process equals health.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yes, they've taken the health out of it, just giving
you the crunch. We're done, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Ooh, here's an interesting one. A little bit of history.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
All right. In nineteen fifty seven, my parents with me
come in the United States, and they were Brazilian citizens.
And in those days when they swore their citizenship and
you have to swear you want to be a citizen,
Q had to give up any other citizenship. You have
(06:45):
to have exclusive allegiance to the United States. Well that changed,
that changed pretty dramatically in nineteen sixty seven. That changed
that you no longer have to swear soul legiance to
the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So we're all citizens of Brazil.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
My parents became citizens of the United States and no
longer citizens of Brazil because they renounced Brazilian citizenship. I
am still a citizen of Brazil and the United States
because I was eleven years old and I eleven year old.
Kids don't swear allegiance or don't swear allegiance. You just
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stay where you are. So I am a citizen of both,
and I can apply for additional citizenship for example, as
you know, when I retire, I want to spend some
time in Italy and here, and I don't have to
swear allegiance. Well maybe I do because now when you well,
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I don't have to swear because I'm already a citizen.
But new citizens have to have sole and exclusive allegiance
the United States. Going back before sixty seven, and Senator
Bernie Moreno of Ohio Republican is introduced to bill, the
Exclusive Citizenship Act of twenty twenty five, saying, it's real simple.
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If you swear allegiance to the United States, you cannot
have allegiance to any other country.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
We need people in this country to only look at
American citizenship as their sole citizenship.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So that changed, and.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Now he wants to go back to the days in
which my parents relinquished their Brazilian citizenship.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And there are a bunch of rules here.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Those who have dual citizenship would have to submit a
written renunciation of foreign citizenship to the Secretary of State,
a written renunciation of US citizenship to the Secretary of
Homeland Security. And if I don't comply, because I'm a
dual citizen, if I don't comply, I will deemed to
have voluntarily relinquished my US citizenship.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Now that gets that's pretty out there.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And what Moreno said, being an American citizen is an
honor and privilege.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'll buy that. And if if you want to be
American it's all or nothing. I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And it's time to end dual citizenship for good. Now.
The reality is I am not alone I am technically.
I am technically a Brazilian citizen, and that's it. My
allegiance is to this country. I am applying for citizenship
for a Polish citizenship for two reasons. Number One, if
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I want to live anywhere in Europe and I have
a European Union passport, there are twenty eight countries they
are in European Union, of which Poland is one, I
basically become a citizen of all of Europe, or at
least those that are p part of the treaty.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And so for me it makes it real easy.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I'm not a when I go into Europe and I
want to live there, I'm a citizen. Now does that
mean I am a citizen and my allegiance is to Poland?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Absolutely not. So the other.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Reason that I want to be a Polish citizen is
because I want to be the butt of Polish jokes.
I just like the idea, right, how does Bill handle
screw in a light bulb?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I just happen to.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like that, Or how many handles does it take to
screw in a light bulb?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And the answer is everybody in his family.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
So I have a hard time with this, in which
dual citizenship is connected somehow to not being not having
allegiance to the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I truly don't.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Now I'll tell you other countries don't recognize American citizenship
when I go to Brazil. I went to Brazil with
my American passport when I was eighteen. I went down
there to visit and there it was born in Brazil.
Brazil doesn't recognize that I was American. I'm Brazilian when
I walk in the door.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And guess what.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
They draft people when they are eighteen years old. I
was drafted by the Brazilian army and the rule was
if I serve in a foreign army military service, then
I lose my citizenship. But I still I still get drafted. Well,
(11:39):
thank god, I was able to buy myself out of there.
It was so corrupt down there. It cost me one
hundred dollars in a bottle of whisky. And my family
got really angry with me because they say, you could
have done this for fifty dollars. So I'm a citizen
and I will be a citizen of three countries. Is
my allegiance to the United States any less? It is not.
(12:01):
And what this senator wants to do is make sure
that only American citizens or only people who are applying
to or have dual citizenship, swear allegiance.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
To the United States.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean, I guess there's a point to it, but yeah,
I don't know, you know, I mean, that's stretching, it
really is.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
All right. Now, a word about what's going on in
the world of oil.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Venezuela and the president the United States appears to be
ready for war with Venezuela, and the President has effectively
not taken anything off the table, and it's all has
to do with Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela. And
(12:52):
the argument is that these boats, these cigarette boats, because
they're really fast, that's what they're called, have drugs in them,
and frankly, the US is boiling them.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The bits, which I completely agree with.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The problem is this is sort of a declaration of
war and the United States really doesn't have the right
to do this. But the fact that the administration has
said that these we're at war with these people gives
him a break, and it is argued they are arguing
they have a right to do this. Now, a couple
(13:26):
things about Venezuela, which is really interesting because the argument
is This is not about drugs. This is about oil.
And I don't know if this is true or not.
You can't accuse Trump of everything, although I come pretty close.
Venezuela is sitting on the largest reserve of oil on
(13:47):
the planet. We think of Saudi Arabia, we think of
the United States, which produces the most oil, not even close.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
However, Maduro is the president of Venezuela and he has
almost single handedly destroyed the country. Now actually the country
the Maduro government Hugo is it Chavez that took control
before Maduro in twenty thirteen, and it is now pumping
(14:17):
out less than a third of what it was before
nineteen ninety nine when this quote socialist government took over.
And they just don't pump off the oil. They're just
not getting the money. There are sanctions in place. The
international companies are not investing because it takes a huge investment.
(14:37):
The oil involved here is very heavy oil and heavy
oil versus crude oil. Crude oil is for gasoline, that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Heavy duty oil.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Is for diesel fuel and other kinds of fossil fuels
that are needed. For example, ships take heavy oil. It's
like sludge actually to run massive ships. So is it
about oil or not. Venezuela used to used to be
(15:10):
one of the world's greatest cities. It was by far
the wealthiest city in South America.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Caracas used to be on.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
The same level certainly in South America, as Paris, as London,
as New York.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It was at that level.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It is basically now a toilet because single handedly, what
Maduro has done is just drag it into the well
with toilet, much like what Mugabi did in Zimbabwe. Took
the wealthiest country in Africa and now makes it one
of the poorest country in Africa because you have one guy,
one guy who controls effectively destroying everything. And so is
(15:55):
the president looking at oil? You know what?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I don't think so even the accusation is there.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think it is literally about the drug industry and
drugs coming out of Venezuela. What he should actually go
is to China where the fentanyl comes from, to Mexico,
to Colombia, who are far more involved in bringing drugs
into the country than Venezuela. But the geopolitics, how much
(16:25):
does it hurt to go after Venezuela versus China versus Mexico.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
How would oil play into this because they have the
largest reserves in the world, I know, But what would
that mean, If that means, how we get our hands
on it.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Because well, we would have American investment in there because
it's already one major company, Atlantic Richfield is going in
and this oil is so valuable and it affects it
affects the world market for oil, so oil becomes cheaper,
American companies make buckets of money, and it just helps
(17:00):
us to the greatest extent. We are probably going to
be the recipient of the greatest good on this. We're
going to be the biggest benefactor or the biggest recipient
of the oil being introduced into the world market. Problem
is going to take ten years, and it's going to
take billions and billions of dollars. And so, you know,
a third of Venezuela had the population is left. Everybody
(17:23):
who has brains or marketable skills gone, and what you
have left is poor people who rely on governmental assistance.
So it's all subsidized in Venezuela. Well, you can't subsidize
an entire population if there's no money being manufactured, if
(17:44):
businesses aren't working if oil is not being produced and used.
I mean, can you imagine a third of what was
produced is produced versus nineteen ninety nine a third? And
so here's the argument Trump is doing this oil.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't think so. He has an entire task force.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
An air carrier or a aircraft carrier task force in
the Caribbean now dealing with this.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Let me tell you that is not cheap. And then
the issue of the attacks.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
On those purported drug boats and what oh ma, that's
a fun one. The double tap what pete he sat
has done and said, changing his tune over the last
two days several times.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Now, a new poll NBC News poll.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Came out sixty three percent of US Americans believe that
a four year college degree is not worth the cost
because people graduate without specific job skills. I graduated in
political science. What the hell do you do with political science?
Who in a hire who has a political science degree?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
What do they do? Specifically? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And so so no specific job skills, large amount of
debt to pay off. And a similar CNBC poll back
in twenty thirteen said that fifty three percent of Americans.
Now it's sixty three percent, and it has changed dramatically.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
What's happening.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Well, higher education has gotten so much more expensive, far
blowing out the amount of anything else. The cost of
inflation is just a fraction or the inflation's rate is
a fraction of what education has gone up. The labor
market has changed, AI has changed. My daughter who is
(19:42):
now getting a master's degree in computer science, I'm telling her,
you know what, learn how to make coffee and line
up to go to a Starbucks. My other daughter, by
the way, started just starting school working on her bachelor's
degree now in women's advocacy, whatever the hell that is,
(20:07):
and that is helping women deal with trauma and deal
with well women's issues, which I don't understand why she
would ever do that or anybody for that sake. The
bottom line is college was a very different, different animal.
I grew up in a household as many people do,
(20:31):
where college was a given.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I mean, it was just like eating breakfast, you go
to college.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Well those days are gone, and the college education is
so expensive. I funded my kid's college education the day
they were born, and I don't know if that money
and this eighteen years later and it's fully funded, I
don't know if that's enough money to pay for the
(21:00):
college education.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So the answer is.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
To them and Amy, what do you think the answer
would be with a fully funded college education fund to
your kids?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
What do you think the answer would be. Yes, the
answer I will take it.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
No, the answer is, don't bother going to college. I
will take the money and I will use it because
I can do that because I'm a trustee of the
college fund. Now, if I take the money, which I'm
allowed to do by the way, I have to pay
ordinary income plus ten percent tax on top of that.
So it is horrifically expensive to take the money.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
So now we use it for education. No, you can
use it for anything you want. If you take the money,
you can grab the money.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
It's trustee, I think, I can't you use it for education?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I can? Yeah, why would I do? What kind of
education am I going to get?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Right to get his degree? That's true, that would work,
That would work. You're right, Yeah, I never thought of that.
I was just thinking of just taking the money and
having a good time with it. So as my daughter's
and college, when we have the same conversation, you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Say, too bad.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You are out of luck and it doesn't make a
lot of sense to go to college These days, it
really doesn't. Long term, it still does, but college it's
a tough call, it really is.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
It used to be really easy. He got out of
college at a great job.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
He made more money than anybody who had a vocational skill.
Today it's just not the same and college may not
be worth it, and the majority of Americans.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Agree with that. This is KFI AM six point forty.
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