October 30, 2025 • 23 mins
(October 30, 2025)
Trump orders Pentagon to start testing nuclear weapons ‘on an equal basis’ with other countries. Escaped monkeys ‘destroyed’ after Mississippi police are mistakenly told they’re a danger. The innovation that’s killing restaurant culture.
Trump orders Pentagon to start testing nuclear weapons ‘on an equal basis’ with other countries. Escaped monkeys ‘destroyed’ after Mississippi police are mistakenly told they’re a danger. The innovation that’s killing restaurant culture.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Now yesterday an interesting announcement where Donald Trump says the
US will immediately start testing nuclear weapons. Now I agree
(00:55):
with his premise that if other countries testing their nuclear weapons,
then we should react to that and test our nuclear weapons.
But here's where he conflated just a little bit. First
of all, we've been talking about the last major agreement
(01:18):
was back when H. George HW Bush signed the Comprehensive
Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in nineteen ninety six. The Senate
refused to ratify it, and all treat all treaties must
be ratified by the Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We are not part of it. However, we've lived up
to it.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All the terms we are following, and what it means
is no nuclear testing. There are a couple times. There
are a couple of ways of testing nuclear weapons. One
is underground, which they've been doing since nineteen sixty when
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
In grade school.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
There were two major stories that I remember when JFK
was president, certainly when he was assassinated, but during the
course the first three years, and I was a young guy,
but I still remember this. One was Alaska and Hawaii
being incorporated in the United States as states. That was
(02:20):
nineteen sixty, by the way, it hasn't been that long ago.
And number two the Test Ban Treaty that was signed
with Russia, and the test Ban Treaty said there are
no more atmospheric nuclear tests. That before that, starting from
World War Two right up to nineteen sixty, the testing
would be in the atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
They would throw missiles up and.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Explode nuclear weapons in the sky, and everybody realized, yeah,
you know, that's maybe that's not such a good idea,
so they moved it to underground, where we tested probably
a thousand different tests the United States did and it
was underground in Nevada, which is why you don't want
(03:05):
to be a spilunker because when you are you don't
actually need those lights.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You glow yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And so the testing went underground and nobody has since
nineteen ninety six, we have not exploded a test. We
have not exploded a weapon underground. The only people that
have NUCA is North Korea. They have because they don't
agree to anything, and so do they still test? Yeah,
(03:34):
they actually do. But let me tell you how it's done.
They do it with computer modeling. That's the testing that's
being done. And I had a friend of mine that
worked up at Lawrence Livermore Lab up in northern California
and they developed nuclear devices. They you know, technology just
(03:55):
gets better and better across the board, so as they're
new TVs and new new nuclear weapons, and the testing
was always done on a computer model and that's the
way it works. Well, why is Trump now saying that
we are going to start testing, Well, because China and
(04:17):
Russia are going to start testing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Particularly Russia. But it's not testing nuclear weapons that Russia
is doing.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's delivery systems is what they're testing how to get
the nuclears weapons to a given target.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's the testing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And so when President Trump says they are testing nuclear
weapons and we are going to engage in testing, they're
not what he's What he should be saying is following.
What's actually happening is Russia is testing delivery systems. Therefore
we should test delivery systems. And Russia talks about it's
(04:57):
hyper missile and a torpedo so that moves so quickly
that it's you can't defend against it. Now on Air
Force One on the way back from South Korea, he
did say that the process will begin immediately. We don't
know what that means. And because of other countries testing programs. Again,
(05:20):
what they're testing is delivery systems, not the weapons themselves.
I've instructed the Department of War to start testing are
nuclear weapons on equal basis and that will happen right now.
And then a reporter asked him is the world entering
a more risky environment when it comes to these nuclear issues,
and he said no, I don't think so. I think
we pretty well have it locked up. But I see
(05:43):
them testing, and again he leaves out, I see them
testing delivery systems, not the nuclear weapons themselves. And I say, well,
they're going to test. I guess we have to test.
He'd like to see a de nuclearization program, and that
would be a tremendous thing. That's true, And he said
it's something we're actually talking to Russia about. I don't
(06:04):
know what they're talking to Rush about, because Putin keeps
on testing these delivery systems and he is. As a
matter of fact, Russia has created a couple of ways
of delivering nuclear weapons that I don't think we've come up,
we've come close to.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And so you know what's going to happen. Well, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Is Trump going to go forward and start the nuclear
tests in Nevada? And the politics of that. You have
Nevadians or Nevado's whatever, they all they call people citizens
of Nevada, residents of Nevada's, they're not going to be
happy about it. They're internationally people aren't going to other
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countries aren't going to be happy about it. And there
are a lot of countries that are not big fans
of Donald Trump to begin with. But can you imagine
starting another nuclear war, not actual war, but a nuclear
testing war. I mean, we don't need it, and we
have the technology. From what I understand, we have the
(07:05):
technology to do all the testing we want by way
of this computer modeling. So I don't get it now
the basic premise, I agree. If the other countries, particularly
Russia and China, that's what we're talking about. North Korea
is going to test itself to obolivion and there's nothing
anybody can do about that. And they have maybe a
(07:27):
couple hundred weapons. China, well, Russia and the United States
have about the same over five thousand of these nuclear weapons.
Are you ready for this one? You know what they
used to have with the United States and Russia had.
The United States had thirty thousand of them at one
point and Russia is in the twenty thousands. How's that
(07:48):
for the ability to blow up this earth into little
tiny pieces? Now it's down because we've done all kinds
of treaties reducing the very weapons down to about five
thousand each. United States a little bit ahead by a
couple of hundred, and when you talk about North Korea,
it's way down. So who are the major countries that
(08:10):
have them? While North Korea does Unfortunately, Pakistan India developed
their own Israel has had one for years and years,
although they deny it, they won't comment on it. And
there's a wonderful story about Israel and one of the
Israeli guys who worked at Demona, which is the plant
where they make it, stealing secrets and actually giving them
(08:33):
the United States and we had them in jail for
twenty years. That's another story we want to do at
some point because that's a fun one. So the bottom
line is, are we really going to start testing when
the other countries are not testing except their delivery systems?
Who the hell knows? No idea. Okay, now we're going
to have fun escape monkeys. There was that story about
(08:56):
the escape monkeys. There was that truck in Mississis that
overturned and had it was a trunk. It was a
truck full of Recis monkeys on the way to be tested.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And where were they going.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, they were actually going to a movie set where
they were filming the next film of Night at the Museum.
That's actually not true because those are Cappachin monkeys, not
Reciss monkeys. But I had to go there because it's
a nice visual. In the meantime, there's all kinds of
controversy about the monkeys themselves. Originally the truck driver said
(09:32):
that they were infected with herpes and hepatitis because of
the testing is what they do. And then we find
out that's not true, and one monkey was had escaped,
and it turns out there are three monkeys and a
number of monkeys were quote destroyed. That's the term they
use after they got loose. You ever noticed when anybody
(09:55):
is executed that what they should do is we have
destroyed the inmate, because that basically works. Okay, So the
controversy is they were coming from the National The school
said that it's National Biological Research Center. It provides primates
(10:17):
monkeys to other research organizations to quote advance science, and
the monkeys were in fact not in fact that Okay,
that's the news story. And then I go thinking about
the animal rights people who have a real problem with
animals being used for testing. They've successful, they've been successful,
(10:40):
and for example, rabbit testing for makeup products no longer
rabbit eyes are being used to hurt the animals. But
when it comes to diseases, that's a very different thing.
And so there was a woman just right next to
this story who has just found guilty of well, removing
(11:02):
four chickens from a processing plant. Four chickens, and she
did it and said she was removing them from cruelty.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
She didn't deny taking them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Matter of fact, her organization the direct Action everywhere DX filmed.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It, they didn't un it and released it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
She was there, and she was there to prove that
animals were destroyed cruelly. And so she breaks into this
processing plant where there are millions of chickens, grabs four
of them, puts them in buckets, which is what the
(11:43):
story tells us. Ironically enough, the buckets they put them
in they got from the back of a KFC store
that were put into the dumpster. So she is now
convicted of stealing the four chickens. And her attorney and
by the way, her attorney said, oh, we're going to
(12:04):
appeal the conviction. Her attorney said that the prosecution look
at what the prosecutors look at what the county did
spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to prosecute this case
because the animal rights people were throwing tons of money
into this legal action.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Into the defense.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, the prosecution is right, and that is we're not
doing this because you're an animal rights person or you
believe in, you know, stopping animal cruelty.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We did this because it broke in. That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You broke into a facility, and it doesn't matter what
the motivation is, and it doesn't. I mean, can you
imagine if they don't prosecute based on the fact that
the motivation is to save animals from cruelty. By the way,
does anybody think when they're gnawing on a chicken leg
(13:00):
that somehow it's cruel to animals?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I try not to think. I don't. I mean, I
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, there are people that na on people's legs
that don't think that it's cruelty.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The people read Jeffrey Dahmer different story. The point is,
that's what animals are.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But we as human beings, are put on this earth,
and we are the primary species, and we eat both.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Animals and we eat plants. That's what we do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We were designed to do that by God, if you
are into God. We were also designed to listen to
rock and roll and to get high on drugs and
to engage in all kinds of crazy ass sexual escapades.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
That's what human beings do. So you can.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Argue all day long that chickens have to be saved
from poulsry plants. Now, I wonder which of the four
chickens were the lucky ones. You talk about winning the lottery.
There's two million chickens. We'll grab these four. You ever
seen a chicken smile? Okay, all right, let me talk
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about restaurants. And then Neil talks about restaurants all the time.
And this is how restaurants have changed completely. It's a
new model and it started in the early two thousands.
And what it is is delivery. It's not people coming
into the restaurant anymore. It's delivering food. And you mix
(14:39):
that up with technology. I mean, even delivery has been
around involved forever. I remember as a kid in the
valley there was pizza Man that would deliver and that
was and by the way, that failed miserably only because
the pizzas were horrible and it was basically pizza again.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I still have Pizza Man.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh wow, you go back a long way. Well, the
point is it's gone from pizza delivery, which has sort
of been the end all be all for pizzas, into
anything you want, I mean anything. Some of the most
high end food that is delivered to your door, and
you're never on the phone. You never talk to anybody,
(15:21):
is you just you're clicking through on your device or
on your home computer and the order comes in and
then the mechanism starts on the other side. And what
has been happening, I think Neil will back this up.
What has been happening is that the focus of restaurants
(15:41):
is moving away from people walking into restaurants and having
the restaurant experience to having the food delivered at home.
Now there's some downsides to that too, which I'm going
to get into, but just get I'm going to start
giving you some stats, and I want to start.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Giving you some names.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, this guy, but then na Colin Wallace in two
thousand and six wanted a snack in the classroom and
he had delivered long classes and he did it by
talking on the phone, ordering for the restaurant and then
waiting for the delivery.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It was the Georgia Tech and he goes, that's kind
of neat.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So he started a company that then was eventually acquired
in twenty eleven by grub Hub. He was at a
leadership at this company that would go on to change
restaurants forever. And so, as I said today, you can
get anything, literally anything ice cream Sunday, martini, wagou steak
delivered to your door and whatever you order. It comes
(16:42):
from a business that used to operate as a restaurant,
and now it's more like a pickup counter. And there's
no experience there, restaurant experience, although eating at home and
in front of your TV that's kind of an I mean,
there's some downsides to that delivery. And now I don't
(17:05):
like delivery at home. I mean, I think Lindsay has
door dash and we have it delivered, you know, once
a blue moon. But the food is always cold. You
never get hot, piping food delivered to your table.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's a given.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The best you're gonna do is lukewarm plus and the
food steams. You order tacos, for example, from that taco
restaurant up the street from US, which has great tacos,
these crispy tacos that are just wonderful. Well, once I
ordered from them and they wrap it up in aluminum
(17:44):
foil by the time it got to my house, and
by the way, only a few minutes later.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Because this thing is quarter mile from it from me.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The tacos were all soggy, they had steamed in their containers.
And even the way the restaurants are using many dishes,
they're not using much cutlery. What they're using is lots
of plastic, lots of paper, lots of rappers. And it's
(18:13):
changed completely, totally, completely, basically. One of the restaurant restaurant
tours and a critic as well as an expert in
the world of restaurant says, what's happening is less of
experience and this has become a commodity.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That is the shame of it.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
National Restaurant Association keeps track of restaurants nationally.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Wine a whild name. In twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Four, nearly three out of every four restaurant orders were
not eaten in restaurants. And when you look at millennials
and Generation Z man, here are the stats. More than
half of adults under forty five use delivery at least
once a week.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I shouldn't do that. How come I has that to me?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They use delivered at least once a week, thirteen percent
use it every day. One in eight boomers use the
delivery once a week, which is last time a Boomer.
We're order inners or inner orders, and DoorDash was just
acquired by a British delivery service, delivery, I mean delivery.
(19:24):
How's that for a name? They paid three point eight
six billion dollars for door Dash. So, Neil, you have
seen this happen. You've been talking about food for what
twenty years and you have fifteen or more? Okay, you
have you know you have seen this happen before your
very eyes.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh yeah, we all saw it unfold and then explode,
you know, tenfold or more during the pandemic. It just
has been Now it's the norm. I mean, whether it's groceries,
which is one thing, or whether it's restaurants, which is
a whole other thing, because they're still paying unless they
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have a ghost kitchen, which we've talked about before, which
is just a kitchen, no storefront, no vibe, no atmosphere,
nothing inside. You never walk in it. All this ghost
kitchen does is produce food to be delivered. That's one thing.
But if you have an actual restaurant that you've paid
designers to come and design to make a vibe and
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all of those things, you've got people paid to go
in there and serve you, or make cocktails or do
any of these things. There's a massive amount of cost
in there. And I know it looks glamorous and like
everybody's you know, a celebrity chef, but it's not. They're
very small margins, and those margins are consumed by the
(20:47):
typical charge fifteen to thirty percent of the total order
price by the company that is, the third party company
or app that is delivers.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But let me throw something back at you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The cost of producing the meal and having it delivered
for a restaurant, is that more profitable than it is
for a sit down restaurant, considering labor, considering rent, considering overhead, because.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
If you're trying to do both, which they are because
that's the only way they can stay alive, and some
of it they're still paying for the lighting, the air
condition everything, if that restaurant's empty.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, And that's my point.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So what I'm asking is, if a restaurant can successfully
move over to delivery only for the same food, will
they make more money.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
No, Because some of the best items, some of the
higher end items stake and things like that, they don't
travel well. I was saying, And you're not going to
buy a fancy meal and have it delivered to your house.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Except that's happening now, why rare occasions? All do something?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
If I'm you know, if it's just me and I'm
sitting home and Max and Tracy are at visiting family
or something, then I might treat myself to something like that.
But at that point I'll make it myself. It's not
a great model the way it is. They've tried to
switch to first party where they invite you. Restaurants invite
(22:18):
you to order off of their website, and that saves
them some money, but still it's a rough model all
the way around. And I think deliveries continues to get
worse because now they're batch. They're batching deliveries if you notice,
and so it takes longer for you to get yours
(22:38):
because they're making multiple stops for other people's foods. So
the quality goes down.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Way it's designed or being utilized now, they're going to
have to they're gonna have to change that a little bit.
But it's hard to have a restaurant and try and
live off of just delivery.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, and look at people who deliver, they're ten ninety
nine employees. No one is a cardiovascular surgeon that delivers food.
They are told to move quickly, not particularly safely.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Remember what was it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Domino's used to deliver in half an hour guaranteed until
one driver plowed into a car and made the other driver,
the kid, a quadriplegic. Okay, they stopped doing the half
hour guaranteed and driving.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I didn't know this.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Driving for a delivery service is one of the most
dangerous jobs in America.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Really, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That's according to the story out of the Atlantic. Okay,
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Nice I am six forty handle here the day before Halloween,
third day, October thirtieth. Quick word about ask Handle anything
we do at tomorrow at eight thirty. And this is
where you ask me anything and I answer virtually everything,
and it's all designed to humiliate me and it generally works.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
And here's what happens. You have to ask the question.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So go on the iHeartRadio app during the course of
the show, click onto the Bill Handle show upper right
hand corner microphone, click on that and record your question.
Neil chooses them and we play them at eight thirty tomorrow.
Now yesterday an interesting announcement where Donald Trump says the
US will immediately start testing nuclear weapons. Now I agree
(00:55):
with his premise that if other countries testing their nuclear weapons,
then we should react to that and test our nuclear weapons.
But here's where he conflated just a little bit. First
of all, we've been talking about the last major agreement
(01:18):
was back when H. George HW Bush signed the Comprehensive
Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in nineteen ninety six. The Senate
refused to ratify it, and all treat all treaties must
be ratified by the Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We are not part of it. However, we've lived up
to it.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All the terms we are following, and what it means
is no nuclear testing. There are a couple times. There
are a couple of ways of testing nuclear weapons. One
is underground, which they've been doing since nineteen sixty when
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
In grade school.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
There were two major stories that I remember when JFK
was president, certainly when he was assassinated, but during the
course the first three years, and I was a young guy,
but I still remember this. One was Alaska and Hawaii
being incorporated in the United States as states. That was
(02:20):
nineteen sixty, by the way, it hasn't been that long ago.
And number two the Test Ban Treaty that was signed
with Russia, and the test Ban Treaty said there are
no more atmospheric nuclear tests. That before that, starting from
World War Two right up to nineteen sixty, the testing
would be in the atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
They would throw missiles up and.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Explode nuclear weapons in the sky, and everybody realized, yeah,
you know, that's maybe that's not such a good idea,
so they moved it to underground, where we tested probably
a thousand different tests the United States did and it
was underground in Nevada, which is why you don't want
(03:05):
to be a spilunker because when you are you don't
actually need those lights.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You glow yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And so the testing went underground and nobody has since
nineteen ninety six, we have not exploded a test. We
have not exploded a weapon underground. The only people that
have NUCA is North Korea. They have because they don't
agree to anything, and so do they still test? Yeah,
(03:34):
they actually do. But let me tell you how it's done.
They do it with computer modeling. That's the testing that's
being done. And I had a friend of mine that
worked up at Lawrence Livermore Lab up in northern California
and they developed nuclear devices. They you know, technology just
(03:55):
gets better and better across the board, so as they're
new TVs and new new nuclear weapons, and the testing
was always done on a computer model and that's the
way it works. Well, why is Trump now saying that
we are going to start testing, Well, because China and
(04:17):
Russia are going to start testing.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Particularly Russia. But it's not testing nuclear weapons that Russia
is doing.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's delivery systems is what they're testing how to get
the nuclears weapons to a given target.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's the testing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And so when President Trump says they are testing nuclear
weapons and we are going to engage in testing, they're
not what he's What he should be saying is following.
What's actually happening is Russia is testing delivery systems. Therefore
we should test delivery systems. And Russia talks about it's
(04:57):
hyper missile and a torpedo so that moves so quickly
that it's you can't defend against it. Now on Air
Force One on the way back from South Korea, he
did say that the process will begin immediately. We don't
know what that means. And because of other countries testing programs. Again,
(05:20):
what they're testing is delivery systems, not the weapons themselves.
I've instructed the Department of War to start testing are
nuclear weapons on equal basis and that will happen right now.
And then a reporter asked him is the world entering
a more risky environment when it comes to these nuclear issues,
and he said no, I don't think so. I think
we pretty well have it locked up. But I see
(05:43):
them testing, and again he leaves out, I see them
testing delivery systems, not the nuclear weapons themselves. And I say, well,
they're going to test. I guess we have to test.
He'd like to see a de nuclearization program, and that
would be a tremendous thing. That's true, And he said
it's something we're actually talking to Russia about. I don't
(06:04):
know what they're talking to Rush about, because Putin keeps
on testing these delivery systems and he is. As a
matter of fact, Russia has created a couple of ways
of delivering nuclear weapons that I don't think we've come up,
we've come close to.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And so you know what's going to happen. Well, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Is Trump going to go forward and start the nuclear
tests in Nevada? And the politics of that. You have
Nevadians or Nevado's whatever, they all they call people citizens
of Nevada, residents of Nevada's, they're not going to be
happy about it. They're internationally people aren't going to other
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countries aren't going to be happy about it. And there
are a lot of countries that are not big fans
of Donald Trump to begin with. But can you imagine
starting another nuclear war, not actual war, but a nuclear
testing war. I mean, we don't need it, and we
have the technology. From what I understand, we have the
(07:05):
technology to do all the testing we want by way
of this computer modeling. So I don't get it now
the basic premise, I agree. If the other countries, particularly
Russia and China, that's what we're talking about. North Korea
is going to test itself to obolivion and there's nothing
anybody can do about that. And they have maybe a
(07:27):
couple hundred weapons. China, well, Russia and the United States
have about the same over five thousand of these nuclear weapons.
Are you ready for this one? You know what they
used to have with the United States and Russia had.
The United States had thirty thousand of them at one
point and Russia is in the twenty thousands. How's that
(07:48):
for the ability to blow up this earth into little
tiny pieces? Now it's down because we've done all kinds
of treaties reducing the very weapons down to about five
thousand each. United States a little bit ahead by a
couple of hundred, and when you talk about North Korea,
it's way down. So who are the major countries that
(08:10):
have them? While North Korea does Unfortunately, Pakistan India developed
their own Israel has had one for years and years,
although they deny it, they won't comment on it. And
there's a wonderful story about Israel and one of the
Israeli guys who worked at Demona, which is the plant
where they make it, stealing secrets and actually giving them
(08:33):
the United States and we had them in jail for
twenty years. That's another story we want to do at
some point because that's a fun one. So the bottom
line is, are we really going to start testing when
the other countries are not testing except their delivery systems?
Who the hell knows? No idea. Okay, now we're going
to have fun escape monkeys. There was that story about
(08:56):
the escape monkeys. There was that truck in Mississis that
overturned and had it was a trunk. It was a
truck full of Recis monkeys on the way to be tested.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And where were they going.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, they were actually going to a movie set where
they were filming the next film of Night at the Museum.
That's actually not true because those are Cappachin monkeys, not
Reciss monkeys. But I had to go there because it's
a nice visual. In the meantime, there's all kinds of
controversy about the monkeys themselves. Originally the truck driver said
(09:32):
that they were infected with herpes and hepatitis because of
the testing is what they do. And then we find
out that's not true, and one monkey was had escaped,
and it turns out there are three monkeys and a
number of monkeys were quote destroyed. That's the term they
use after they got loose. You ever noticed when anybody
(09:55):
is executed that what they should do is we have
destroyed the inmate, because that basically works. Okay, So the
controversy is they were coming from the National The school
said that it's National Biological Research Center. It provides primates
(10:17):
monkeys to other research organizations to quote advance science, and
the monkeys were in fact not in fact that Okay,
that's the news story. And then I go thinking about
the animal rights people who have a real problem with
animals being used for testing. They've successful, they've been successful,
(10:40):
and for example, rabbit testing for makeup products no longer
rabbit eyes are being used to hurt the animals. But
when it comes to diseases, that's a very different thing.
And so there was a woman just right next to
this story who has just found guilty of well, removing
(11:02):
four chickens from a processing plant. Four chickens, and she
did it and said she was removing them from cruelty.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
She didn't deny taking them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Matter of fact, her organization the direct Action everywhere DX filmed.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It, they didn't un it and released it.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
She was there, and she was there to prove that
animals were destroyed cruelly. And so she breaks into this
processing plant where there are millions of chickens, grabs four
of them, puts them in buckets, which is what the
(11:43):
story tells us. Ironically enough, the buckets they put them
in they got from the back of a KFC store
that were put into the dumpster. So she is now
convicted of stealing the four chickens. And her attorney and
by the way, her attorney said, oh, we're going to
(12:04):
appeal the conviction. Her attorney said that the prosecution look
at what the prosecutors look at what the county did
spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to prosecute this case
because the animal rights people were throwing tons of money
into this legal action.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Into the defense.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, the prosecution is right, and that is we're not
doing this because you're an animal rights person or you
believe in, you know, stopping animal cruelty.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We did this because it broke in. That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You broke into a facility, and it doesn't matter what
the motivation is, and it doesn't. I mean, can you
imagine if they don't prosecute based on the fact that
the motivation is to save animals from cruelty. By the way,
does anybody think when they're gnawing on a chicken leg
(13:00):
that somehow it's cruel to animals?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I try not to think. I don't. I mean, I
don't do that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I mean, there are people that na on people's legs
that don't think that it's cruelty.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The people read Jeffrey Dahmer different story. The point is,
that's what animals are.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But we as human beings, are put on this earth,
and we are the primary species, and we eat both.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Animals and we eat plants. That's what we do.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
We were designed to do that by God, if you
are into God. We were also designed to listen to
rock and roll and to get high on drugs and
to engage in all kinds of crazy ass sexual escapades.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
That's what human beings do. So you can.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Argue all day long that chickens have to be saved
from poulsry plants. Now, I wonder which of the four
chickens were the lucky ones. You talk about winning the lottery.
There's two million chickens. We'll grab these four. You ever
seen a chicken smile? Okay, all right, let me talk
(14:14):
about restaurants. And then Neil talks about restaurants all the time.
And this is how restaurants have changed completely. It's a
new model and it started in the early two thousands.
And what it is is delivery. It's not people coming
into the restaurant anymore. It's delivering food. And you mix
(14:39):
that up with technology. I mean, even delivery has been
around involved forever. I remember as a kid in the
valley there was pizza Man that would deliver and that
was and by the way, that failed miserably only because
the pizzas were horrible and it was basically pizza again.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I still have Pizza Man.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh wow, you go back a long way. Well, the
point is it's gone from pizza delivery, which has sort
of been the end all be all for pizzas, into
anything you want, I mean anything. Some of the most
high end food that is delivered to your door, and
you're never on the phone. You never talk to anybody,
(15:21):
is you just you're clicking through on your device or
on your home computer and the order comes in and
then the mechanism starts on the other side. And what
has been happening, I think Neil will back this up.
What has been happening is that the focus of restaurants
(15:41):
is moving away from people walking into restaurants and having
the restaurant experience to having the food delivered at home.
Now there's some downsides to that too, which I'm going
to get into, but just get I'm going to start
giving you some stats, and I want to start.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Giving you some names.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, this guy, but then na Colin Wallace in two
thousand and six wanted a snack in the classroom and
he had delivered long classes and he did it by
talking on the phone, ordering for the restaurant and then
waiting for the delivery.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It was the Georgia Tech and he goes, that's kind
of neat.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So he started a company that then was eventually acquired
in twenty eleven by grub Hub. He was at a
leadership at this company that would go on to change
restaurants forever. And so, as I said today, you can
get anything, literally anything ice cream Sunday, martini, wagou steak
delivered to your door and whatever you order. It comes
(16:42):
from a business that used to operate as a restaurant,
and now it's more like a pickup counter. And there's
no experience there, restaurant experience, although eating at home and
in front of your TV that's kind of an I mean,
there's some downsides to that delivery. And now I don't
(17:05):
like delivery at home. I mean, I think Lindsay has
door dash and we have it delivered, you know, once
a blue moon. But the food is always cold. You
never get hot, piping food delivered to your table.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's a given.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
The best you're gonna do is lukewarm plus and the
food steams. You order tacos, for example, from that taco
restaurant up the street from US, which has great tacos,
these crispy tacos that are just wonderful. Well, once I
ordered from them and they wrap it up in aluminum
(17:44):
foil by the time it got to my house, and
by the way, only a few minutes later.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Because this thing is quarter mile from it from me.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The tacos were all soggy, they had steamed in their containers.
And even the way the restaurants are using many dishes,
they're not using much cutlery. What they're using is lots
of plastic, lots of paper, lots of rappers. And it's
(18:13):
changed completely, totally, completely, basically. One of the restaurant restaurant
tours and a critic as well as an expert in
the world of restaurant says, what's happening is less of
experience and this has become a commodity.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That is the shame of it.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
National Restaurant Association keeps track of restaurants nationally.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Wine a whild name. In twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Four, nearly three out of every four restaurant orders were
not eaten in restaurants. And when you look at millennials
and Generation Z man, here are the stats. More than
half of adults under forty five use delivery at least
once a week.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I shouldn't do that. How come I has that to me?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
They use delivered at least once a week, thirteen percent
use it every day. One in eight boomers use the
delivery once a week, which is last time a Boomer.
We're order inners or inner orders, and DoorDash was just
acquired by a British delivery service, delivery, I mean delivery.
(19:24):
How's that for a name? They paid three point eight
six billion dollars for door Dash. So, Neil, you have
seen this happen. You've been talking about food for what
twenty years and you have fifteen or more? Okay, you
have you know you have seen this happen before your
very eyes.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh yeah, we all saw it unfold and then explode,
you know, tenfold or more during the pandemic. It just
has been Now it's the norm. I mean, whether it's groceries,
which is one thing, or whether it's restaurants, which is
a whole other thing, because they're still paying unless they
(20:01):
have a ghost kitchen, which we've talked about before, which
is just a kitchen, no storefront, no vibe, no atmosphere,
nothing inside. You never walk in it. All this ghost
kitchen does is produce food to be delivered. That's one thing.
But if you have an actual restaurant that you've paid
designers to come and design to make a vibe and
(20:25):
all of those things, you've got people paid to go
in there and serve you, or make cocktails or do
any of these things. There's a massive amount of cost
in there. And I know it looks glamorous and like
everybody's you know, a celebrity chef, but it's not. They're
very small margins, and those margins are consumed by the
(20:47):
typical charge fifteen to thirty percent of the total order
price by the company that is, the third party company
or app that is delivers.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But let me throw something back at you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The cost of producing the meal and having it delivered
for a restaurant, is that more profitable than it is
for a sit down restaurant, considering labor, considering rent, considering overhead, because.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
If you're trying to do both, which they are because
that's the only way they can stay alive, and some
of it they're still paying for the lighting, the air
condition everything, if that restaurant's empty.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, And that's my point.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So what I'm asking is, if a restaurant can successfully
move over to delivery only for the same food, will
they make more money.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
No, Because some of the best items, some of the
higher end items stake and things like that, they don't
travel well. I was saying, And you're not going to
buy a fancy meal and have it delivered to your house.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Except that's happening now, why rare occasions? All do something?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
If I'm you know, if it's just me and I'm
sitting home and Max and Tracy are at visiting family
or something, then I might treat myself to something like that.
But at that point I'll make it myself. It's not
a great model the way it is. They've tried to
switch to first party where they invite you. Restaurants invite
(22:18):
you to order off of their website, and that saves
them some money, but still it's a rough model all
the way around. And I think deliveries continues to get
worse because now they're batch. They're batching deliveries if you notice,
and so it takes longer for you to get yours
(22:38):
because they're making multiple stops for other people's foods. So
the quality goes down.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Way it's designed or being utilized now, they're going to
have to they're gonna have to change that a little bit.
But it's hard to have a restaurant and try and
live off of just delivery.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, and look at people who deliver, they're ten ninety
nine employees. No one is a cardiovascular surgeon that delivers food.
They are told to move quickly, not particularly safely.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Remember what was it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Domino's used to deliver in half an hour guaranteed until
one driver plowed into a car and made the other driver,
the kid, a quadriplegic. Okay, they stopped doing the half
hour guaranteed and driving.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And I didn't know this.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Driving for a delivery service is one of the most
dangerous jobs in America.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Really, I didn't either.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
That's according to the story out of the Atlantic. Okay,
we're done, guys. KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
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