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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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we play them at eight thirty tomorrow. Now yesterday an
interesting announcement where Donald Trump says the US will immediately
start testing nuclear weapons. Now I agree with his premise
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that if other countries are testing their nuclear weapons, then
we should react to that and test our nuclear weapons.
But here's where he conflated just a little bit. First
of all, we've been talking about the last major agreement
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was back when H. George HW Bush signed the Comprehensive
Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in nineteen ninety six. The Senate
refused to ratify it, and all treat all treaties must
be ratified by the Senate.
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We are not part of it. However, we've lived up
to it.
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All the terms we are following, and what it means
is no nuclear testing. There are a couple times. There
are a couple of ways of testing nuclear weapons. One
is underground, which they've been doing since nineteen sixty when
I was.
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In grade school.
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There were two major stories that I remember when JFK
was president, certainly when he was assassinated, but during the
course the first three years, and I was a young guy,
but I still remember this. One was Alaska and Hawaii
being incorporated in the United States as states. That was
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nineteen sixty, by the way, it hasn't been that long ago.
And number two the Test Ban Treaty that was signed
with Russia, and the test Ban Treaty said there are
no more atmospheric nuclear tests.
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That before that.
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Starting from World War Two right up to nineteen sixty,
the testing would be in the atmosphere.
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They would throw missiles up and.
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Explode nuclear weapons in the sky, and everybody realized, yeah,
you know, that's maybe that's not such a good idea,
so they.
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Moved it to underground, where.
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We tested probably a thousand different tests what the United
States did, and it was underground in Nevada, which is
why you don't want to be a spilunker because when
you are you don't actually.
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Need those lights. You glow yourself.
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And so the testing went underground and nobody has since
nineteen ninety six, we have not exploded a test. We
have not exploded a weapon underground. The only people that
have NUKEA is North Korea. They have because they don't
agree to anything, and so do they still test? Yeah,
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they actually do. But let me tell you how it's done.
They do it with computer modeling. That's the testing that's
being done. And I had a friend of mine that
worked up at Lawrence Livermore Lab up in northern California
and they developed nuclear devices. They you know, technology just
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gets better and better across the board, so as they're
new TVs and new new nuclear weapons, and the testing
was always done on a computer model and that's the
way it works. Well, why is Trump now saying that
we are going to start testing, Well, because China and
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Russia are going to start testing.
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Particularly Russia.
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But it's not testing nuclear weapons that Russia is doing,
it's delivery systems is what they're testing. How to get
the nuclear weapons to a given target.
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That's the testing.
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And so when President Trump says they are testing nuclear
weapons and we are going to engage in testing, they're
not what he's What he should be saying is following.
What's actually happening is Russia is testing delivery systems. Therefore
we should test delivery systems.
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And Russia talks.
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About it's hyper missile and a torpedo so that moves
so quickly that it's you can't defend against it. Now
on Air Force One on the way back from South Korea,
he did say that the process will begin immediately. We
don't know what that means. And because of other countries
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testing programs. Again, what they're testing is delivery systems, not
the weapons themselves. I've instructed the Department of War to
start testing are nuclear weapons on equal basis and that
will happen right now. And then a reporter asked him
is the world entering a more risky environment when it
comes to these nuclear issues? And he said no, I
don't think so. I think we pretty well have it
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locked up. But I see them testing, and again he
leaves out, I see them testing delivery systems, not the
nuclear weapons themselves. And I say, well, they're going to test.
I guess we have to test. He'd like to see
a de nuclearization program, and that would be a tremendous thing.
That's true, And he said it's something we're actually talking
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to Russia about. I don't know what they're talking to
Rush about, because Putin keeps on testing these delivery systems
and he is. As a matter of fact, Russia has
created a couple of ways of delivering nuclear weapons that
I don't think we've come up, we've come close to.
And so you know what's going to happen. Well, I
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don't know. Is Trump going to go forward and start
the nuclear tests in Nevada?
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And the politics of that.
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You have Nevadians or Nevada's whatever, they all they call
people citizens of Nevada, residents of Nevada's, They're not going
to be happy about it. They're internationally people aren't going
to other countries aren't going to be happy about it.
And there are a lot of countries that are not
big fans of Donald Trump to begin with. But can
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you imagine starting another nuclear war, not actual war, but
a nuclear testing war. I mean, we don't need it,
and we have the technology. From what I understand, we
have the technology to do all the testing we want
by way of this computer modeling. So I don't get
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it now the basic premise, I agree. If the other countries,
particularly Russia and China, that's what we're talking about. North
Korea is going to test itself to oblivion and there's
nothing anybody can do about that.
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And they have maybe a couple hundred weapons.
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China, well, Russia and the United States have about the
same over five thousand of these nuclear weapons. Are you
ready for this one? You know what they used to
have with the United States and Russia had. The United
States had thirty thousand of them at one point and
Russia is in the twenty thousands. How's that for the
ability to blow up this earth into little tiny pieces?
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Now it's down because we've done all kinds of treaties
reducing the very weapons down to about five thousand each.
United State it's a little bit ahead by a couple
of hundred, and when you talk about North Korea, it's
way down. So who are the major countries that have them? Well,
North Korea does, Unfortunately, Pakistan India developed their own Israel
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has had one for years and years, although they deny it,
they won't comment on it. And there's a wonderful story
about Israel and one of the Israeli guys who worked
at Demona, which is the plant where they make it,
stealing secrets and actually giving them the United States and
we had them in jail for twenty years.
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That's another story. We want to do it at some
point because that's a fun one.
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So the bottom line is, are we really going to
start testing when the other countries are not testing except
their delivery systems? Who the hell knows? No idea. Okay,
now we're going to have fun escape monkeys. There was
that story about the escape monkeys. There was that truck
in Mississis that overturned and had it was a trunk.
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It was a truck full of Recis monkeys on the
way to be tested.
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And where were they going.
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Well, they were actually going to a movie set where
they were filming the next film of Night at the Museum.
That's actually not true because those are Cappachin monkeys, not
Recis monkeys. But I had to go there because it's
a nice visual. In the meantime, there's all kinds of
controversy about the monkeys themselves. Originally, the truck driver said
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that they were infected with herpes and hepatitis because of
the testing is what they do.
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And then we find out.
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That's not true, and one monkey was had escaped, and
it turns out there are three monkeys and a number
of monkeys were quote destroyed. That's the term they use
after they got loose. You ever noticed when anybody is
executed that what they should do is we have destroyed
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the inmate, because that basically works. Okay, So the controversy
is they were coming from the National The school said
that it's National Biological Research Center. It provides primates monkeys
to other research organizations to quote advance science, and the
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monkeys were in fact not in fact.
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That Okay, that's the news story.
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And then I go thinking about the animal rights people
who have a real problem with animals being used for testing.
They've successful, they've been successful, and for example, rabbit testing
for makeup products no longer rabbit eyes are being used
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to hurt the animals. But when it comes to diseases,
that's a very different thing. And so there was a
woman just right next to this story who has just
found guilty of well, removing four chickens.
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From a processing plant.
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Four chickens, and she did it and said she was
removing them from cruelty.
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She didn't deny taking them.
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Matter of fact, her organization, the Direct Action everywhere DX
filmed it, they did unit and released it. She was there,
and she was there to prove that animals were destroyed cruelly.
And so she breaks into this processing plant where there
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are millions of chickens, grabs four of them, puts them
in buckets, which is what the story tells us. Ironically enough,
the buckets they put them in they got from the
back of a KFC store that were put into the dumpster.
So she is now convicted of stealing the four chickens.
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And her attorney and by the way, her attorney said, oh,
we're going to appeal the conviction. Her attorney said that
the prosecution look at what the prosecutors look at what
the county did spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to
prosecute this case because the animal rights people were throwing
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tons of money into this legal action.
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Into the defense.
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Well, the prosecution is right, and that is we're not
doing this because you're an animal rights person or you
believe in you stopping animal cruelty.
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We did this because it broke in. That's what it's about.
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You broke into a facility, and it doesn't matter what
the motivation is, and it doesn't.
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I mean, can you.
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Imagine if they don't prosecute based on the fact that
the motivation is to save.
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Animals from cruelty.
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By the way, does anybody think when they're gnawing on
a chicken leg that somehow it's cruel to animals?
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I try not to think. I don't. I mean, I
don't do that.
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I mean, there are people that on people's legs that
don't think that it's cruelty. The people read Jeffrey Dahmer
different story. The point is that's what animals are. But
we as human beings, are put on this earth, and
we are the primary species, and we eat both animals
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and we eat plants. That's what we do. We were
designed to do that by God, if you are into God.
We were also designed to listen to rock and roll
and to get high on drugs and to engage in
all kinds of crazy ass sexual escapades.
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That's what human beings do. So you can.
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Argue all day long that chickens have to be saved
from poulsry plants. Now, I wonder which of the four
chickens were the lucky ones. You talk about winning the lottery,
there's two million chickens.
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We'll grab these four.
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You ever seen a chicken smile? Okay, all right, let
me talk about restaurants. And then Neil talks about restaurants
all the time. And this is how restaurants have changed completely.
It's a new model and it started in the early
two thousands. And what it is is delivery. It's not
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people coming into the restaurant anymore. It's delivering food. And
you mix that up with technology. I mean, even delivery
has been around involved forever. I remember as a kid
in the valley there was pizza Man that would deliver
and that was and by the way, that failed miserably
only because the pizzas were horrible and it was basically
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pizza again.
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I still have pizza Man.
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Oh wow, you go back a long way. Well, the
point is it's gone from pizza delivery, which has sort
of been the end all be all for pizzas, into
anything you want, I mean anything. Some of the most
high end food that is delivered to your door, and
you're never on the phone. You never talk to anybody,
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is you just you're clicking through on your device or
on your home computer. And the order comes in and
then the mechanism starts on the other side. And what
has been happening, I think Neil will back this up.
What has been happening is that the focus of restaurants
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is moving away from people walking into restaurants and having
the restaurant experience to having the food delivered at home.
Now there's some downsides to that too, which I'm going
to get into, but just get I'm going to start
giving you some stats, and I want to start giving
you some names. Okay, this guy, but then na Colin
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Wallace in two thousand and six wanted a snack in
the classroom and he had delivered long classes and he
did it by talking on the phone, ordering from the
restaurant and then waiting for the delivery. It was the
Georgia Tech and he goes, that's kind of neat. So
he started a company that then was eventually acquired in
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twenty eleven by grub Hub. He was at a leadership
at this company that would go on to change restaurants forever,
and so, as I said today, you can get anything,
literally anything ice cream, Sunday, martini, wagou steak delivered to
your door and whatever you order. It comes from a
business that used to operate as a restaurant and now
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it's more like a pickup counter. And there's no experience there,
restaurant experience, although eating at home and in front of
your TV that's kind of an I mean, there's some
downsides to that delivery. And now I don't like.
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Delivery at home.
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I mean, I think Lindsay has door dash and we
have it delivered, you know, once in a blue moon.
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But the food is always cold.
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You never get hot, piping food delivered to your table.
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That's a given.
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The best you're gonna do is lukewarm plus and the
food steams. You order tacos, for example, from that taco
restaurant up the street from US, which has great tacos,
these crispy tacos that are just wonderful.
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Well, once I ordered from them and they wrap.
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It up in aluminum foil by the time it got
to my house, and by the way, only a few
minutes later.
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Because this thing is quarter mile from it from me.
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The tacos were all soggy, they had steamed in their containers.
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And even the way.
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The restaurants are using many dishes, they're not using much cutlery.
What they're using is lots of plastic, lots of paper,
lots of rappers.
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And it's changed.
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Completely, totally, completely, basically. One of the restaurant restaurant tours
and a critic as well as an expert in the
world of restaurant says, what's happening is less of experience
and this has become a commodity.
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That is the shame of it.
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National Restaurant Association keeps track of restaurants nationally wind a
whild name. In twenty twenty four, nearly three out of
every four restaurant orders were not eaten in restaurants. And
when you look at millennials and Generation Z man here
are the stats. More than half of adults under forty
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five use delivery at least once a week.
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I shouldn't do that. How come I has that to me?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
They use deliver at least once a week, thirteen percent
use it every day. One in eight boomers use the
delivery once a week, which is last I'm a boomer
we're order inners or inner orders, and DoorDash was just
acquired by a British delivery service, delivery, I mean delivery.
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How's that for a name? They paid three point eight
six billion dollars for door Dash. So, Neil, you have
seen this happen. You've been talking about food for what
twenty years and you have fifteen or more? Okay, you
have you know you have seen this happen before your
very eyes.
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Oh yeah, we all saw it unfold and then explode,
you know, tenfold or more during the pandemic. It just
has been Now it's the norm. I mean, whether it's groceries,
which is one thing, or whether it's restaurants, which is
a whole other thing, because they're still paying unless they
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have a ghost kitchen, which we've talked about before, which
is just a kitchen, no storefront, no vibe, no atmosphere,
nothing inside. You never walk in it. All this ghost
kitchen does is produce food to be delivered. That's one thing.
But if you have an actual restaurant that you've paid
designers to come and design, to make a vibe and
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all of those things, you've got people paid to go
in there and serve you or make cocktails or do
any of these things. There's a massive amount of cost
in there. And I know it looks glamorous and like everybody's,
you know, a celebrity chef, but it's not. They're very
small margins, and those margins are consumed by the typical
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charge fifteen to thirty percent of the total order price
by the company that is the third party company or
app that is no delivers.
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But let me throw something back at you.
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The cost of producing the meal and having it delivered
for a restaurant, is that more profitable than it is
for a sit down restaurant, considering labor, considering rent, considering overhead, because.
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If you're trying to do both, which they are because
that's the only way they can stay alive, and some
of it they're still paying for the lighting, the air conditioning, everything,
if that restaurant's empty.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
No, And that's my point.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So what I'm asking is, if a restaurant can successfully
move over to delivery only for the same food, will
they make more money.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
No, Because some of the best items, some of the
higher end items stake and things like that, they don't
travel well, I'm saying, and you're not going to buy
a fancy meal and have it delivered to your house,
except that's happening now more rare occasions. All do something
if I'm you know, if it's just me and I'm
sitting home and Max and Tracy are at visiting family
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or something, then I might treat myself to something like that.
But at that point I'll make it myself. It's not
a great model the way it is. They've tried to
switch to first party where they invite you. Restaurants invite
you to order off of their website, and that saves
them some money, but still it's a rough model all
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the way around. And I think deliveries continues to get
worse because now they're batch. They're batching deliveries if you notice,
and so it takes longer for you to get yours
because they're making multiple stops for other people's foods. So
the quality goes down. I think I think the way
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it's designed or being utilized now, they're going to have
to they're gonna have to change that a little bit.
But it's hard to have a restaurant and try and
live off of just delivery. Yeah, and look at the
people who deliver, they're ten ninety nine employees. No one
is a cardiovascular surgeon that delivers food. They are told
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to move quickly, not particularly safely.
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Remember what was it.
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Domino's used to deliver in half an hour guaranteed until
one driver plowed into a car and made the other driver,
the kid, a quadriplegic. Okay, they stopped doing the half
hour guaranteed and driving.
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And I didn't know this.
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Driving for a delivery service is one of the most
dangerous jobs in America.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Really, I didn't either.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's according to the story out of the Atlantic. Okay,
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