January 8, 2026 • 29 mins
Bill Handel discusses the big story of the shooting in Minneapolis, where a woman was shot by an ICE agent during a demonstration. He touches on the controversy surrounding the incident, including the differing accounts of what happened and the potential motivations behind the shooting. Bill also talks about the President's recent decision to withdraw the US from 66 international organizations and treaties, including the Paris Climate Agreement. Additionally, he previews Governor Gavin Newsom's State of the State address.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings kf I AM six forty the bill handles
show on demand on the iheartradiop The big, big story
that we're covering, of course, with the shooting yesterday in Minneapolis. Now,
when you look at the major stories that we have
had over the last even couple of weeks, you've got
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Jeffrey Epstein. While that was taken off the books, or
that was put on back burner with the invasion of
Venezuela and the abduction of Maduro, and then that sort
of was put on back burner because of the Greenland
and what's going on with what's happening with Greenland, which
of course is hugely controversial in of itself, And now
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that moves away because the news that's at the forefront
is the shooting yesterday of this woman by an ICE agent.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
There was an ICE operation in Minneapolis, and of course
Minneapolis being one of the cities in which the Trump
administration is arguing or one of the democratic cities in
which federal officials have to come in to do the
policing because local police forces aren't doing it and this
is overrun with illegal aliens and somehow and I don't
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get this. The city is falling apart because of that. Okay,
So I think there are two thousand agents in Minneapolis,
And as I pointed out early, it's very interesting it
only democratic cities have this kind of problem, and they're
the only ones that engage in fraud. I mean, it's
just it's fascinating to me that cities that are Republicans
are fabulous places to live.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No crime, no issue, no fraud.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Okay, moving into what happened yesterday in Minneapolis, which is
the subject of the ICE campaigns.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So now we've gotten the point.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
When there is an ICE enforcement issue, what happened because
of smartphones, because of the Internet. Immediately the word goes
out and says, okay, we've got a bunch of agents
that are arresting our citizens, that are harassing, going into
whatever business or a school and grabbing putative illegal aliens.
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And so people show up and there are demonstrations and
literally harass those agents. I mean, there is no question
they are harassing, they are threatening agents. Agents then react,
and it's really the altercation is almost immediate, and the
philosophies are such that you don't see pro police people
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at these demonstrations for the most part, and you certainly
don't see anybody who is in favor of illegal aliens
even being treated.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, I'm going to go that far, because when they're
rounded up, I mean they're really rounded up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So you have this woman in an suv that part
of the demonstration, and she blocks the road with her
suv partially blocks the road.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's snowing, there isn't much traction.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So there she is blocking the road and a couple
of agents come up to her and I'll sensibly say,
get the hell out of here. You're blocking the road.
She is seen at one point waving someone through and
in front of her, because again she only partially blocked
the road and people were driving back and forth, so
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she is waving people through. She is there halfway on
the road and the Ice agents come up. We don't
have the audio yet, but it looks like I think
we can assume that the agent's saying get out of here,
get out of here, and what she does, and it
seems almost at the same time they go to her
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side of the car, window is down, and you have
this visible not audio yet fight that they have with
each other. And so at that point. What she does
is back up and appears to want to drive away.
Now there is an agent. Imagine this, You've got an
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agent at her window and you have an agent near
her left fender. She pulls back and moves the car
so it's driving away from both the agents, and it
looks like the agent at her front fender is in
fact hit by her and then walks away. I mean,
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it was obviously no big deal. Well that seemed to
have occurred simultaneously to her being shot, and I mean
the shots rang out almost immediately, and then she was
hitting the head and then crashed the car. And the
part that is so contentious here is that the Department
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of Homeland Security, Christinoman, the President, said that she was
trying to run over that agent. That's what she purposely
did if you look at the video. That's kind of
a hard argument to make, but an investigation has to
prove it. Is there a defense to this, Yeah, yeah,
The defense is that she was going after the agent
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and he was in fear of his life. Even the person,
even the agent that shot her from the side of
the car, has the right to shoot if his or
her life is in danger. I'm talking about the agent
or someone else's life is in danger. And the argument
is going to be the life was in danger, that
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she tried to run over that ice agent. And then
the other side of it is she just tried to
get away. She was moving away from them, and you
can see that in the video. The politics of this
happened instantly, instantly. Christinoman, this is my favorite one, first
of all, called her a domestic terrorist.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This was an act of domestic terrorism.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, I don't there is well, there's also saying as
domestic terrorism.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
By the way, that doesn't exist legally.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
There is terrorism, but domestic terrorism is a violent criminal
act driven by domestic ideological goals political, religious, social.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Racial, environmental.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'll argue that that that could be to intimidate civilians. No,
this wasn't civilians or influence government policy.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I mean, it's a political move.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
More than anything else. But it involves a tremendous amount
of violence. This woman was not violent, Christinome said. The
head of Homeland Security said that she was absolutely aiming
for hit and tried to run over and attack the agent.
And when we look at the videos, kind of a
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hard argument to make. The other thing I talked about
this earlier. Is that at that she was a or
people that were there were professional agitators, And I looked
at trying to figure out what is a professional agitator?
I didn't know number one, that was a profession. How
much you get paid for agitating? I don't know. Because
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you're a professional, does that mean you have to be
certified as an agitator? If you go to actually, if
you go to Indeed and look at the word agitator,
you will see professional agitators offering their services and you
can get them by the hour. You can get them
are half day, full day, weekly rates. Some advertise moderate rates,
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affordable rates to agitate. If you go to the cal
State University systems, you have courses in agitation. You can
get a degree in agitation. Wow, didn't know that, did you?
Probably not okay with that being said, You think I'm
taking this seriously, Actually I am. The The way this
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is being interpreted is going right down the middle of
policy and politics are all part of it. Nothing can
happen today without the left and the right not screaming
at each other and blaming the other side. The administration
is talking about this is all caused by the radical
left there's such thing as a peaceful, honest demonstration of
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what the administration is doing.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's all the radical left is responsible for anything and everything.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
All protests are radical left.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
On the other side, it's a police intervention. And look
what they're doing to these protesters, how they are treating
the protesters. And First Amendment rights don't count at all.
So and and the part that kills me is Christy Noman.
The president not one word about Hi. We have to
have the investigation. There has to be We cannot make
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a quick judgment. It may look one way or the other,
but there has to be an investigation. Nope, christinom and
the President said, we know what it is. It is
an attack on this officer. It was self defense. There
was no question she was trying to kill the officer.
Take a look at the video. And there's a go
on any internet site. I mean, you go to social
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media and there are thousands of these, hundreds of thousands
of posts, and you've got dozens of positions of where
the cameras, where these cell phones were.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And then see for yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And then coming up at eight thirty, I'm going to
give you some rules about professional agitation because obviously there
are laws involved in professional agitation. That's I think part
of the US Civil Code that says professional agitation and
what the limits are. Okay, I am going to talk
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about it. Am I pushing this professional agitation thing a little
bit too far?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah? Maybe, okay, I'm done with that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The big story, naturally, is what happened yesterday in Minneapolis,
the shooting of that thirty seven year old woman by
an ICE agent on the course of a demonstration and
a huge controversy. I talked about that the last segment,
and the boy is going to be in the news
for a while. One of the more unsettling facts about
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this has happened just a few blocks away from where
George Floyd was killed. It's Minneapolis. Boy, are they going
through some issues now? Also, what happened yesterday is the
President withdrew the United States from sixty six international organizations
and treaties, and no surprise there there was a presidential
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memorandum and he wrote that it is contrary to the
interests of the United States to remain a member of,
participate in, or otherwise provide support to these organizations. And
there are organizations that are geared toward education, economic development, cybersecurity.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And rights issue issues.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
And if you look at them being woke, you bet
they're woke because that's sort of what they do.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They also feed a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
These organizations, and they immunize a lot of people around
the world, and they have medical centers around the world,
you know, helping folks that don't have access to medicine.
So there are a lot of really good organizations out there.
And the big one is to remove ourselves from anything
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that even remotely is connected to global warming.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And so.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
The president already announced the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement, right,
which international treaty to limit global warming to under.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Two degrees celsius.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That seems to be the magic number, which we're blowing
past that very quickly in order to prevent the worst
effects of climate change. And this is you know, I
don't even know how controversial this is because the president
ran on a campaign to undo all of this. I mean,
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the people of this country elected this president. And so
there are a lot of people that are upset about this, say,
oh my god, what is going on. It's not as
if it wasn't anticipated.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's not as if there's a surprise at all.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
One of the things about Donald Trumpy he does what
he says, and he says what he does. I mean,
there's no hidden agenda here as oh you said this,
unless you're looking at now lately intervention into foreign areas.
America First, we are not going to get involved in
foreign wars, or get involved in nation building, or get
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involved in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Anything outside the United States unless we do.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And you have maga folks saying we agree the president
should We as a United States should not get involve
any of this. Unless the president does, then we're fine
with it. Read Venezuela, Red Greenland. Okay, So this was
the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which we just
were removed from, signed in nineteen ninety two and signed
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by if you if you look at a statement from
Gena McCarthy, a former director of the US Environmental Protection Agency,
a pretty wonky place, and what Gena McCarthy says that
the withdrawal from this organization. We are not the only
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industrialized country in the world to remove ourselves. We are
the only country in the world that hasn't signed on
to this, and that is well, you know, what it does, is.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What the president is doing is.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He has made it really clear the United States doesn't
give a rats about four organizations. We should not be
interested in anything unless it's helping us. And even the
argument that we are getting a law, we are helping people,
or we're getting involved in foreign affairs, well, the President
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can say, and I think legitimately say it is about us.
It is it's all about us. The oil, it's our oil.
We want our oil from Venezuela. We're going to grab
that oil. We're going to control that oil, and it's
going to come to us, as opposed to going to
Russia or going to China with these dark what do
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they call this, the transporting of the oil sort of
under the table. And so what he's saying is we're
not going to have that anymore. Three of these tankers
have been grabbed by the United States, and.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So the oil. You can argue that that is for
our purposes. I buy that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think that's the motivation of the p resident. At
the same time, Greenland, what is the motivation of the president.
It's because it's in our national interest, as far as
the President says, to own Greenland, to occupy Greenland, because
it has all kinds of rare earth and resources, and
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it's in the North Atlantic, it's in the Arctic region,
which is a very important place strategically, So it can
easily be argued it is in our best interest to
have Venezuela produce oil, for US, to have Greenland produce
these rare earths and other resources, for US, for US
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to own Greenland, to annex Greenland, to be part of Greenland. Course,
Denmark has an issue with that, and for those JD.
Vance is a moron. I'll tell you when he said
about Greenland, why does Denmark own it? We should own it?
You know they how long have they owned it? You
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know we should grab it. Well, Denmark has quote owned
Greenland as protector of Greenland of excuse me, Denmark, and
it was started in seventeen seventy five, one year before
the US was even declared a country. So no big surprise, guys,
And you're going to see us. And the President is
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not a big fan of global warming. He has said
global warming is a Democrat hoax, straight out, and so
based on that, of course he's going to withdraw.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Of course he's going to say we want no part
of it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, moving over to the final state, of the State
speech that Gavin Newsom is going to give.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
This will be known as the chopped liver speech.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And I'll tell you why, because the governor is going
to say the president gets a lot of credit for
doing a lot of social making big social changes.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
What am I shop liver? And here is what's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
First of all, he's going to speak he hasn't spoken
in the past. I mean State of the State and
even the State of the Union does not have to
be given in person. And so he took advantage of
the last couple of years of just sending in the
statements and doing it late because there's no date that
he has to do it by.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So what he's gonna do, and this is gonna.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Be delivered today, is he will highlight economic strength. He's
going to highlight falling homelessness, expanded education funding. He is
one bitching guy, isn't he. This guy is just terrific.
And basically he's gonna it's going to be a campaign speech,
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is what it's going to be. He's going to offer
his glimpse his positioning of his presidential run. Matter of fact,
he even admitted he is being looked at in the
presidential run. Newsom is portraying California as a financial powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It is and strives to help those.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
In need and works diligently to address its own shortcomings.
That's a little controversial because a lot of Republicans and
people that lean to the rider are saying this is
a waste of money and because there's so much fraud
and abuse. Even what it wants to do, it is
not And I'm talking about helping those who are disenfranchised,
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the marginal part of people that are marginally involved in society,
that just don't have a lot of money, don't have skills, etc.
Even wanting to do that is not being helped by
these programs. Because it's California and it's woke, woke, woke city.
He is expected to announce an estimated nine percent drop
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in statewide unsheltered homelessness last year.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He said, there were some.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Improvements, but we've got a long way to go. And
it's true for any governor, be it Republican or Democrat.
California is home to nearly a quarter of the nation's
homeless population. And I'm convinced it's because of the wokeness
that the benefits here in California. Keep in mind, they
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don't get Social Security benefits, they're not entitled to Medicaid.
We're talking about the illegal aliens, and that's what we're
working a because so many are homeless. But even just
a very very poor out on the street aren't entitled
to a lot of benefits across the country.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Here they are here.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
There is housing help here, there is help for mental
illness here, there is help across the board in many ways.
Now you don't see many homeless shell or you don't
see many homeless, for example, in Albany, New York, during
the winter, because they tend to freeze to death if
they're outside.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
California also has the weather.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So it's still surprised that we have twenty five percent
of the nation's homeless. Oh, also keep in mind, oh,
it's because we have the most people.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And that's clearly why. Yeah, we have the most people.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But if twenty five percent is that number of homeless people,
we only have ten percent of the population of the
United States, yet twenty five percent of homeless, So it
becomes a huge, huge issue. And he has made some
inroads well in certain areas. He's made some inroads, saying
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that nine percent in emergency homeless shelters, but I don't know,
it's going to take a long time and a lot
of money. Then the issue of affordability, and I think
he's right on it's a multi layered crisis.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It is really complicated. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
In one area in which he actually agrees with Trump
there on the same page, and we're going to talk
to Joel about this coming up, is that he does
not want investors coming in and grabbing homes and flipping them,
major investment organizations flipping homes and making money, because it
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makes homes even more more expensive, and both Trump and
Newsom want to do something about that. Also, the governor
is announcing the state is going to set a record
on a per student funding in public schools and fully
fun universal transitional kindergarten under his budget proposal. Now, even
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though it's going to set a record on per student
funding in public schools, California record, California does not spend
enough well, does not spend the same level per student
as many other states do, and so that is not
something to jump up and down about, although it's improving.
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And well, then he's going to nail Trump. He's going
to try talk about the Trump administration, and he's going
to accuse him of dismantling public services.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, that's true. Flouting the rule of law depends on
how you look at it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Using extortion to bully businesses and universities.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I agree that it's extortion.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
However, those people that are in favor of that are
simply saying, we're undoing the wokeness. That wokeness is destroying
this country. DEI is destroying this country. And if you
believe that, then you certainly are saying Gavenusom is crazy.
And also he's talking about how difficult it was here
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in particularly La County with the devastating fires. So what's
the bottom line it's going to happen with this speech?
We go right back to the chopped liver speech. Hey,
what do what do I look like? Choplev? Look how
much I've done for this date? Aren't I the greatest
guy in the world. Trump may think he's the greatest
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guy in the world, But I'm the greatest governor that
ever lived. I love politicians, and I think when he
runs for governor, when runs for.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
President, he's going to say, Nah, he's not going to
go that far. No, He's not. I wish, I wish
he would, but no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I can't wait for Trump's handpicked presidential nominee during the
next race. It's going to be absolutely fascinating. So let
me tell you what is happening in La County. More So,
notice I say La County a lot for people in
Orange County will ask me, Bill, why do you concentrate
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on La County?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I go because it's the two different countries.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
La County and Orange County are literally two different countries
that Orange curtain and La County has certainly the way
I look at, many more problems. This is a county,
This is an area that is just rife with problems.
And one of the problems is the jail system. In general,
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Americans are in jail more than in any other country
in the world incarceration, and it is expensive as hell
to incarcerate someone. And so what happens when you have
someone going to jail. The costs are astronomical, not only
to house them, but the medical costs, because there are
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plenty of people who commit crimes that have all medical issues,
constant medical issues, and we're talking about health issues, well,
I'll tell you, and those are taken care of badly,
but they're taken care of. I'll tell you where it
falls through the cracks, and that is drug addiction. Because
a huge number of people who are incarcerated, mainly males,
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are in prison and they come in as drug addicts.
And we know what prisoners will do to get drugs
into the prison, into their cells. I mean, we've seen
movies and we've heard stories, and we have cases all
over the place, and that seems to be sort of
a policy of those who are in prison. Let's get
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drugs in because they're drug addicts. It's as simple, and
there's lots and lots of them, so as badly as
they are not being treated, we're talking about prisoners. When
it comes to medical help, it is even worse. Now
if you have an inmate that has broken bone or
needs surgery right there. Yeah, not really good care, matter
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of fact, maybe even bad care. But they're gonna get
care if there's a broken bone.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Now how about mental illness. Ah, different story, because a
lot of people view mental illness as not really an illness. Now,
I happen to think mental illness is a real illness,
but you know, you can't see it for the most part.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Unless they act out.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You can certainly see a broken bone, you can certainly
see a cancer diagnosis, but you can't see mental illness
until that person acts out. And so there is a
stigma about mental illness where the County and most other
organizations that deal with those who have medical issues, the
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mental illness is put on a lower scale.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Now at the bottom of the heap is drug addiction.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Now do you believe the drug addiction is a mental illness? Well,
I certainly believe that people have a propensity to be
drug addicts, much like alcoholism.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I think you're wired to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
But on the other hand, the system doesn't appreciate those
who are alcoholics. They don't appreciate those who need drug treatment.
The demand is very high because the number of people
who need it, the number of people who commit crimes
to get money to pay for the drugs because they
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are addicted is very large, and the amount of money
that's being paid is relatively small. And the argument is,
if we deal with alcoholism, if we deal with mental illness,
we are dealing with medical issues better than others. But
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if we deal with those two, then we're going to
have a member of society. It's a rehabilitation concept, and
then others think, you know, just throw the key away,
just leave it alone, And I happen to believe one
of those depending on the crime. I have no problem
throwing people a way and they can sit in solitary
for the rest of their lives. I'm not a big
fan of criminals, and I have rehabilitation.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's really expensive.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know, if they want to rehabilitate it and get
a career, go to junior college, get out of prison
and go to junior college and get a loan because
that's easy to get. I mean, we the state taxpayer.
Are we going to pay for them to learn how
to make cabinets? For them to learn a skill?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It gets expensive, real expensive.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
So there, So what do you do with someone who's
committed a crime and is doing five years ten years?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'll tell you what I do. I kill them. That's it. No,
just kill them.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Graffiti tagging, death penalty a second time out, first time out,
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, we're done. I have an answer to everything, don't.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
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show on demand on the iheartradiop The big, big story
that we're covering, of course, with the shooting yesterday in Minneapolis. Now,
when you look at the major stories that we have
had over the last even couple of weeks, you've got
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Jeffrey Epstein. While that was taken off the books, or
that was put on back burner with the invasion of
Venezuela and the abduction of Maduro, and then that sort
of was put on back burner because of the Greenland
and what's going on with what's happening with Greenland, which
of course is hugely controversial in of itself, And now
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that moves away because the news that's at the forefront
is the shooting yesterday of this woman by an ICE agent.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
There was an ICE operation in Minneapolis, and of course
Minneapolis being one of the cities in which the Trump
administration is arguing or one of the democratic cities in
which federal officials have to come in to do the
policing because local police forces aren't doing it and this
is overrun with illegal aliens and somehow and I don't
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get this. The city is falling apart because of that. Okay,
So I think there are two thousand agents in Minneapolis,
And as I pointed out early, it's very interesting it
only democratic cities have this kind of problem, and they're
the only ones that engage in fraud. I mean, it's
just it's fascinating to me that cities that are Republicans
are fabulous places to live.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No crime, no issue, no fraud.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Okay, moving into what happened yesterday in Minneapolis, which is
the subject of the ICE campaigns.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So now we've gotten the point.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
When there is an ICE enforcement issue, what happened because
of smartphones, because of the Internet. Immediately the word goes
out and says, okay, we've got a bunch of agents
that are arresting our citizens, that are harassing, going into
whatever business or a school and grabbing putative illegal aliens.
(02:21):
And so people show up and there are demonstrations and
literally harass those agents. I mean, there is no question
they are harassing, they are threatening agents. Agents then react,
and it's really the altercation is almost immediate, and the
philosophies are such that you don't see pro police people
(02:42):
at these demonstrations for the most part, and you certainly
don't see anybody who is in favor of illegal aliens
even being treated.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, I'm going to go that far, because when they're
rounded up, I mean they're really rounded up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So you have this woman in an suv that part
of the demonstration, and she blocks the road with her
suv partially blocks the road.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's snowing, there isn't much traction.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So there she is blocking the road and a couple
of agents come up to her and I'll sensibly say,
get the hell out of here. You're blocking the road.
She is seen at one point waving someone through and
in front of her, because again she only partially blocked
the road and people were driving back and forth, so
(03:33):
she is waving people through. She is there halfway on
the road and the Ice agents come up. We don't
have the audio yet, but it looks like I think
we can assume that the agent's saying get out of here,
get out of here, and what she does, and it
seems almost at the same time they go to her
(03:54):
side of the car, window is down, and you have
this visible not audio yet fight that they have with
each other. And so at that point. What she does
is back up and appears to want to drive away.
Now there is an agent. Imagine this, You've got an
(04:15):
agent at her window and you have an agent near
her left fender. She pulls back and moves the car
so it's driving away from both the agents, and it
looks like the agent at her front fender is in
fact hit by her and then walks away. I mean,
(04:35):
it was obviously no big deal. Well that seemed to
have occurred simultaneously to her being shot, and I mean
the shots rang out almost immediately, and then she was
hitting the head and then crashed the car. And the
part that is so contentious here is that the Department
(04:56):
of Homeland Security, Christinoman, the President, said that she was
trying to run over that agent. That's what she purposely
did if you look at the video. That's kind of
a hard argument to make, but an investigation has to
prove it. Is there a defense to this, Yeah, yeah,
The defense is that she was going after the agent
(05:17):
and he was in fear of his life. Even the person,
even the agent that shot her from the side of
the car, has the right to shoot if his or
her life is in danger. I'm talking about the agent
or someone else's life is in danger. And the argument
is going to be the life was in danger, that
(05:38):
she tried to run over that ice agent. And then
the other side of it is she just tried to
get away. She was moving away from them, and you
can see that in the video. The politics of this
happened instantly, instantly. Christinoman, this is my favorite one, first
of all, called her a domestic terrorist.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This was an act of domestic terrorism.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, I don't there is well, there's also saying as
domestic terrorism.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
By the way, that doesn't exist legally.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
There is terrorism, but domestic terrorism is a violent criminal
act driven by domestic ideological goals political, religious, social.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Racial, environmental.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'll argue that that that could be to intimidate civilians. No,
this wasn't civilians or influence government policy.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I mean, it's a political move.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
More than anything else. But it involves a tremendous amount
of violence. This woman was not violent, Christinome said. The
head of Homeland Security said that she was absolutely aiming
for hit and tried to run over and attack the agent.
And when we look at the videos, kind of a
(06:52):
hard argument to make. The other thing I talked about
this earlier. Is that at that she was a or
people that were there were professional agitators, And I looked
at trying to figure out what is a professional agitator?
I didn't know number one, that was a profession. How
much you get paid for agitating? I don't know. Because
(07:16):
you're a professional, does that mean you have to be
certified as an agitator? If you go to actually, if
you go to Indeed and look at the word agitator,
you will see professional agitators offering their services and you
can get them by the hour. You can get them
are half day, full day, weekly rates. Some advertise moderate rates,
(07:36):
affordable rates to agitate. If you go to the cal
State University systems, you have courses in agitation. You can
get a degree in agitation. Wow, didn't know that, did you?
Probably not okay with that being said, You think I'm
taking this seriously, Actually I am. The The way this
(08:00):
is being interpreted is going right down the middle of
policy and politics are all part of it. Nothing can
happen today without the left and the right not screaming
at each other and blaming the other side. The administration
is talking about this is all caused by the radical
left there's such thing as a peaceful, honest demonstration of
(08:24):
what the administration is doing.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's all the radical left is responsible for anything and everything.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
All protests are radical left.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
On the other side, it's a police intervention. And look
what they're doing to these protesters, how they are treating
the protesters. And First Amendment rights don't count at all.
So and and the part that kills me is Christy Noman.
The president not one word about Hi. We have to
have the investigation. There has to be We cannot make
(08:55):
a quick judgment. It may look one way or the other,
but there has to be an investigation. Nope, christinom and
the President said, we know what it is. It is
an attack on this officer. It was self defense. There
was no question she was trying to kill the officer.
Take a look at the video. And there's a go
on any internet site. I mean, you go to social
(09:17):
media and there are thousands of these, hundreds of thousands
of posts, and you've got dozens of positions of where
the cameras, where these cell phones were.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And then see for yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And then coming up at eight thirty, I'm going to
give you some rules about professional agitation because obviously there
are laws involved in professional agitation. That's I think part
of the US Civil Code that says professional agitation and
what the limits are. Okay, I am going to talk
(09:52):
about it. Am I pushing this professional agitation thing a little
bit too far?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah? Maybe, okay, I'm done with that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The big story, naturally, is what happened yesterday in Minneapolis,
the shooting of that thirty seven year old woman by
an ICE agent on the course of a demonstration and
a huge controversy. I talked about that the last segment,
and the boy is going to be in the news
for a while. One of the more unsettling facts about
(10:21):
this has happened just a few blocks away from where
George Floyd was killed. It's Minneapolis. Boy, are they going
through some issues now? Also, what happened yesterday is the
President withdrew the United States from sixty six international organizations
and treaties, and no surprise there there was a presidential
(10:42):
memorandum and he wrote that it is contrary to the
interests of the United States to remain a member of,
participate in, or otherwise provide support to these organizations. And
there are organizations that are geared toward education, economic development, cybersecurity.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And rights issue issues.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
And if you look at them being woke, you bet
they're woke because that's sort of what they do.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
They also feed a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
These organizations, and they immunize a lot of people around
the world, and they have medical centers around the world,
you know, helping folks that don't have access to medicine.
So there are a lot of really good organizations out there.
And the big one is to remove ourselves from anything
(11:34):
that even remotely is connected to global warming.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And so.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
The president already announced the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement, right,
which international treaty to limit global warming to under.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Two degrees celsius.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
That seems to be the magic number, which we're blowing
past that very quickly in order to prevent the worst
effects of climate change. And this is you know, I
don't even know how controversial this is because the president
ran on a campaign to undo all of this. I mean,
(12:12):
the people of this country elected this president. And so
there are a lot of people that are upset about this, say,
oh my god, what is going on. It's not as
if it wasn't anticipated.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
It's not as if there's a surprise at all.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
One of the things about Donald Trumpy he does what
he says, and he says what he does. I mean,
there's no hidden agenda here as oh you said this,
unless you're looking at now lately intervention into foreign areas.
America First, we are not going to get involved in
foreign wars, or get involved in nation building, or get
(12:48):
involved in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Anything outside the United States unless we do.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And you have maga folks saying we agree the president
should We as a United States should not get involve
any of this. Unless the president does, then we're fine
with it. Read Venezuela, Red Greenland. Okay, So this was
the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which we just
were removed from, signed in nineteen ninety two and signed
(13:16):
by if you if you look at a statement from
Gena McCarthy, a former director of the US Environmental Protection Agency,
a pretty wonky place, and what Gena McCarthy says that
the withdrawal from this organization. We are not the only
(13:37):
industrialized country in the world to remove ourselves. We are
the only country in the world that hasn't signed on
to this, and that is well, you know, what it does, is.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What the president is doing is.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He has made it really clear the United States doesn't
give a rats about four organizations. We should not be
interested in anything unless it's helping us. And even the
argument that we are getting a law, we are helping people,
or we're getting involved in foreign affairs, well, the President
(14:15):
can say, and I think legitimately say it is about us.
It is it's all about us. The oil, it's our oil.
We want our oil from Venezuela. We're going to grab
that oil. We're going to control that oil, and it's
going to come to us, as opposed to going to
Russia or going to China with these dark what do
(14:37):
they call this, the transporting of the oil sort of
under the table. And so what he's saying is we're
not going to have that anymore. Three of these tankers
have been grabbed by the United States, and.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So the oil. You can argue that that is for
our purposes. I buy that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think that's the motivation of the p resident. At
the same time, Greenland, what is the motivation of the president.
It's because it's in our national interest, as far as
the President says, to own Greenland, to occupy Greenland, because
it has all kinds of rare earth and resources, and
(15:18):
it's in the North Atlantic, it's in the Arctic region,
which is a very important place strategically, So it can
easily be argued it is in our best interest to
have Venezuela produce oil, for US, to have Greenland produce
these rare earths and other resources, for US, for US
(15:41):
to own Greenland, to annex Greenland, to be part of Greenland. Course,
Denmark has an issue with that, and for those JD.
Vance is a moron. I'll tell you when he said
about Greenland, why does Denmark own it? We should own it?
You know they how long have they owned it? You
(16:02):
know we should grab it. Well, Denmark has quote owned
Greenland as protector of Greenland of excuse me, Denmark, and
it was started in seventeen seventy five, one year before
the US was even declared a country. So no big surprise, guys,
And you're going to see us. And the President is
(16:24):
not a big fan of global warming. He has said
global warming is a Democrat hoax, straight out, and so
based on that, of course he's going to withdraw.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Of course he's going to say we want no part
of it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, moving over to the final state, of the State
speech that Gavin Newsom is going to give.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
This will be known as the chopped liver speech.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And I'll tell you why, because the governor is going
to say the president gets a lot of credit for
doing a lot of social making big social changes.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
What am I shop liver? And here is what's going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
First of all, he's going to speak he hasn't spoken
in the past. I mean State of the State and
even the State of the Union does not have to
be given in person. And so he took advantage of
the last couple of years of just sending in the
statements and doing it late because there's no date that
he has to do it by.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
So what he's gonna do, and this is gonna.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Be delivered today, is he will highlight economic strength. He's
going to highlight falling homelessness, expanded education funding. He is
one bitching guy, isn't he. This guy is just terrific.
And basically he's gonna it's going to be a campaign speech,
(17:52):
is what it's going to be. He's going to offer
his glimpse his positioning of his presidential run. Matter of fact,
he even admitted he is being looked at in the
presidential run. Newsom is portraying California as a financial powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
It is and strives to help those.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
In need and works diligently to address its own shortcomings.
That's a little controversial because a lot of Republicans and
people that lean to the rider are saying this is
a waste of money and because there's so much fraud
and abuse. Even what it wants to do, it is
not And I'm talking about helping those who are disenfranchised,
(18:33):
the marginal part of people that are marginally involved in society,
that just don't have a lot of money, don't have skills, etc.
Even wanting to do that is not being helped by
these programs. Because it's California and it's woke, woke, woke city.
He is expected to announce an estimated nine percent drop
(18:55):
in statewide unsheltered homelessness last year.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
He said, there were some.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Improvements, but we've got a long way to go. And
it's true for any governor, be it Republican or Democrat.
California is home to nearly a quarter of the nation's
homeless population. And I'm convinced it's because of the wokeness
that the benefits here in California. Keep in mind, they
(19:23):
don't get Social Security benefits, they're not entitled to Medicaid.
We're talking about the illegal aliens, and that's what we're
working a because so many are homeless. But even just
a very very poor out on the street aren't entitled
to a lot of benefits across the country.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Here they are here.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
There is housing help here, there is help for mental
illness here, there is help across the board in many ways.
Now you don't see many homeless shell or you don't
see many homeless, for example, in Albany, New York, during
the winter, because they tend to freeze to death if
they're outside.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
California also has the weather.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
So it's still surprised that we have twenty five percent
of the nation's homeless. Oh, also keep in mind, oh,
it's because we have the most people.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And that's clearly why. Yeah, we have the most people.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But if twenty five percent is that number of homeless people,
we only have ten percent of the population of the
United States, yet twenty five percent of homeless, So it
becomes a huge, huge issue. And he has made some
inroads well in certain areas. He's made some inroads, saying
(20:37):
that nine percent in emergency homeless shelters, but I don't know,
it's going to take a long time and a lot
of money. Then the issue of affordability, and I think
he's right on it's a multi layered crisis.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It is really complicated. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
In one area in which he actually agrees with Trump
there on the same page, and we're going to talk
to Joel about this coming up, is that he does
not want investors coming in and grabbing homes and flipping them,
major investment organizations flipping homes and making money, because it
(21:18):
makes homes even more more expensive, and both Trump and
Newsom want to do something about that. Also, the governor
is announcing the state is going to set a record
on a per student funding in public schools and fully
fun universal transitional kindergarten under his budget proposal. Now, even
(21:38):
though it's going to set a record on per student
funding in public schools, California record, California does not spend
enough well, does not spend the same level per student
as many other states do, and so that is not
something to jump up and down about, although it's improving.
(22:00):
And well, then he's going to nail Trump. He's going
to try talk about the Trump administration, and he's going
to accuse him of dismantling public services.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, that's true. Flouting the rule of law depends on
how you look at it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Using extortion to bully businesses and universities.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I agree that it's extortion.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
However, those people that are in favor of that are
simply saying, we're undoing the wokeness. That wokeness is destroying
this country. DEI is destroying this country. And if you
believe that, then you certainly are saying Gavenusom is crazy.
And also he's talking about how difficult it was here
(22:47):
in particularly La County with the devastating fires. So what's
the bottom line it's going to happen with this speech?
We go right back to the chopped liver speech. Hey,
what do what do I look like? Choplev? Look how
much I've done for this date? Aren't I the greatest
guy in the world. Trump may think he's the greatest
(23:09):
guy in the world, But I'm the greatest governor that
ever lived. I love politicians, and I think when he
runs for governor, when runs for.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
President, he's going to say, Nah, he's not going to
go that far. No, He's not. I wish, I wish
he would, but no, no.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I can't wait for Trump's handpicked presidential nominee during the
next race. It's going to be absolutely fascinating. So let
me tell you what is happening in La County. More So,
notice I say La County a lot for people in
Orange County will ask me, Bill, why do you concentrate
(23:49):
on La County?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I go because it's the two different countries.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
La County and Orange County are literally two different countries
that Orange curtain and La County has certainly the way
I look at, many more problems. This is a county,
This is an area that is just rife with problems.
And one of the problems is the jail system. In general,
(24:16):
Americans are in jail more than in any other country
in the world incarceration, and it is expensive as hell
to incarcerate someone. And so what happens when you have
someone going to jail. The costs are astronomical, not only
to house them, but the medical costs, because there are
(24:40):
plenty of people who commit crimes that have all medical issues,
constant medical issues, and we're talking about health issues, well,
I'll tell you, and those are taken care of badly,
but they're taken care of. I'll tell you where it
falls through the cracks, and that is drug addiction. Because
a huge number of people who are incarcerated, mainly males,
(25:04):
are in prison and they come in as drug addicts.
And we know what prisoners will do to get drugs
into the prison, into their cells. I mean, we've seen
movies and we've heard stories, and we have cases all
over the place, and that seems to be sort of
a policy of those who are in prison. Let's get
(25:27):
drugs in because they're drug addicts. It's as simple, and
there's lots and lots of them, so as badly as
they are not being treated, we're talking about prisoners. When
it comes to medical help, it is even worse. Now
if you have an inmate that has broken bone or
needs surgery right there. Yeah, not really good care, matter
(25:53):
of fact, maybe even bad care. But they're gonna get
care if there's a broken bone.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Now how about mental illness. Ah, different story, because a
lot of people view mental illness as not really an illness. Now,
I happen to think mental illness is a real illness,
but you know, you can't see it for the most part.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Unless they act out.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You can certainly see a broken bone, you can certainly
see a cancer diagnosis, but you can't see mental illness
until that person acts out. And so there is a
stigma about mental illness where the County and most other
organizations that deal with those who have medical issues, the
(26:37):
mental illness is put on a lower scale.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Now at the bottom of the heap is drug addiction.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Now do you believe the drug addiction is a mental illness? Well,
I certainly believe that people have a propensity to be
drug addicts, much like alcoholism.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I think you're wired to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
But on the other hand, the system doesn't appreciate those
who are alcoholics. They don't appreciate those who need drug treatment.
The demand is very high because the number of people
who need it, the number of people who commit crimes
to get money to pay for the drugs because they
(27:21):
are addicted is very large, and the amount of money
that's being paid is relatively small. And the argument is,
if we deal with alcoholism, if we deal with mental illness,
we are dealing with medical issues better than others. But
(27:43):
if we deal with those two, then we're going to
have a member of society. It's a rehabilitation concept, and
then others think, you know, just throw the key away,
just leave it alone, And I happen to believe one
of those depending on the crime. I have no problem
throwing people a way and they can sit in solitary
for the rest of their lives. I'm not a big
fan of criminals, and I have rehabilitation.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's really expensive.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know, if they want to rehabilitate it and get
a career, go to junior college, get out of prison
and go to junior college and get a loan because
that's easy to get. I mean, we the state taxpayer.
Are we going to pay for them to learn how
to make cabinets? For them to learn a skill?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It gets expensive, real expensive.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
So there, So what do you do with someone who's
committed a crime and is doing five years ten years?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'll tell you what I do. I kill them. That's it. No,
just kill them.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Graffiti tagging, death penalty a second time out, first time out,
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Okay, we're done. I have an answer to everything, don't.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I Yes, coming out it's Joel Larsgard How to Money,
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