November 28, 2025 • 34 mins
Neil and Heather talk about how Football became a staple of Thanksgiving in America.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Today. The part of Bill Handle will be play Byes.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Not Bill Handles, I mean his Handle show, so see
the difference and out pears not Bill Handle.
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I love those uh intros from John Frost. They're so bespoke,
you know, like here's here's someone in the by the mic.
Enjoy it. KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Good Friday morning to you, Neil Spader in
(00:47):
the morning, Crew Handles got today off, and and so
does Amy King and Kono. Really it's just me and
Ann and are wonderful people that came in here. Heather
Brooker for me and Sam Zea for Cono. Really it's
almost overkill to have Sam here because he's technically two
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of Cono the height joke and bust his chops. Sorry,
he makes fat jokes about me, So bring it all right. Thanksgiving,
What a day yesterday. It was just a beautiful. It
was a beautiful day. The food was great. I saw
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my family a very lovely day in all ways. But
at my brother's house he and his wife, of course,
in the living room have their eighty five inch screen television, whatever,
massive and what's on football, and it probably was the
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same in your house. Football is synonymous with Thanksgiving, but
it hasn't. It's been a long process for a long time,
for many reasons, to make that tie between the two.
Long standing tradition started back with college games. As a
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matter of fact, in the eighteen seventies. Wooh, you're ready
for this wow ride. That's the that's eighteen seventies, right,
that's like the old miners or something. It's a humdinger. Yeah, whoa, yeah,
I don't know, that's the late eighteen hundreds, right, that's
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what you're going for. So eighteen seventies, and it was solidified.
Of course, the NFL comes aboard, and in nineteen thirty
four it was basically lucked in, so colleges began playing
and doing it on Thanksgiving for a day off. Well,
the NFL later began its own tradition. It started with
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the Detroit Lions, followed by the Dallas Cowboys, and this
created just a full day of football for a national audience.
You know, people are eating and then you you know,
you eat earlier, and then you've got your stretching pants
on and you want to sit and watch something and
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you got a little bit of Americana there. So going
back to eighteen seventy six, you had the Intercollegiate Football Association.
They started having their championships on Thanksgiving Day. Now at
the time, it was you know, Thanksgiving. Now we've got
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like every single holiday off, but Thanksgiving was one of
the few days off from work back in the day.
So it was completely ideal for a major sporting event
that needs, you know, the large crowd, the focus of
the people. So call it just like Princeton Yale. They
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established a popular thanks Giving Day rivalry because who doesn't
want to enjoy the trip to fan of their turkey
and watch a rivalry. So then you fast forward to
nineteen thirty four, you got the NFL. They adopt the
tradition by way of the Detroit Lions. So the Detroit Lions,
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their owner at the time, George Richards, he introduced the
Thanksgiving Day game. But this was just to boost ticket sales.
They want the national audience as well because it's a
new team and they want to get the new team
off the ground. So again it's based on the same
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principle of hey, get very few days off. People are
going to take Thanksgiving off. This is the time to
swoop in and take it. So the inaugural NFL game
between the Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears, Go Bears,
was a broadcast on the radio and was a massive success.
You know why, radio, You're welcome. So nineteen sixty six
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roles around. The Dallas Cowboys became the second team to
host a game on Thanksgiving and the tradition has continued
most of the year sis since and it establishes two keys,
key franchises of the holiday. NFL expanded into to include
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third nighttime games, making a full day of football, and
it just is now inseparable from the holiday. Did you
guys have and did you guys have the TV on?
Were the games on? Absolutely? You have to do eight
things to respond with absolutely, Yeah, start with the parade,
(05:55):
right yeah, and then went into the games. And it's
just kind of the background of the holiday. Yeah. I'm
not a big sports guy yea, And yet I expect
it and sometimes I sit down and watch a little bit,
then I move on. Absolutely. So you have like the
room where that is where there's it's like the quiet
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car on the train, you know, like if you're going
to be in here. You can chat a little bit,
but make it focused on the game. And then if
you want to talk about other stuff, then you go
in the other room. And it just seems like part
of it. I even know that, and sure enough you
go back. It goes back to the eighteen seventies. Well,
(06:37):
we gotta watch house have some football.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I gotta ask as a culinary expert. Oh, I'm not
an expert, but an enthusiast, yes, as an as a connoisseur. Yes,
what do you feel because after the games on the
football after the football games, the players of the game
usually get like a turkey leg and they wheel out
like an eight legged turkey. What do you feel about?
(07:01):
What I feel is? I mean people think that I'm
crazy for liking turduccan. Oh, I think this is more
of an abomination.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, once you start adding limbs to an animal, that
seems But you've had a turkey leg at Disneyland. Absolutely
nothing better. That's like King's meal, you know, the big
King sitting at the end of the table and taking
a bite out of a turkey leg.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's the best part of it. It makes you feel
slightly barbaric, but yeah, not like regal.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm going to eat from the bone of the animal.
'tis my privilege as a human, as a biped superior
to all four legged bees and beyond. Yeah, I'll take
it alrighty stick around. More to come, Nil Sevadra and
the Morning Crew. Happy Black Friday to you out there
with your hustle, and don't forget your bustle. Love me
(07:58):
some pickle rick. You don't know the reference. I'm sorry
for you. I feel sad, okay if I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Neil Savedra in
today on Black Friday with the Morning Crew handles taking
the day off. He'll be back on Monday. But uh,
(08:22):
I say pickle rick because pickleball is coming up now.
I am not super familiar with pickleball. I know it exists.
I know that people refer to it as lazy man tennis,
all kinds of different things. Guy heard Conway do just
going down a long diatribe about pickleball, how it's the
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only sport that you know, you play for like ten
minutes and you're just as good as anybody else who's
been playing for years. It's like, but he's a little
he's a little darker guy than I am. But uh so,
I don't know a whole lot about it, but I
know that it's taken over and people love it. Girls
in their little outfits, guys in their little outfits whatever,
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they're all running around. Well, Carmel by the Sea has
become the first California city to ban pickleball, and this
is I guess it comes down to just the noise level.
It's noisy. I mean, are people do they go ah
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when they like in tennis. It's a little like when
they mike up the tennis court and you've got these
beautiful women going uh. I'm just saying. It's just saying
that it's a it's a powerful guttural So I don't
know if that happens in pickleball. But massive growth, I
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mean it just has been everywhere. Is it dying down
at all? Or is it still popular? I don't know
anybody know about the popularity of pickleball right now, Buehler,
No one I know of it.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I just I mean, if you're gonna if it's about noise,
then if you're gonna ban pickleball, then you're gonna have
to ban tennis.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, apparently tennis is not as loud because the rock
the rackets are softer. Oh I thought it was the
grunting that we were. Well, if it's the grunting, we're
screwed because there's other things you're gonna have to start
banning then at that point, but you get this explosive growth.
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So then you've got these enthusiasts and noise weary neighbors
across the country saying, you know, we don't want this
anymore that pop pop pop because it's a plastic ball.
So tennis, you got a racket with the tensioned string, right,
is that what it is? Oh yeah, wow, oh boy,
(10:53):
I see I could go to sleep to that. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's a Oh well, how did they hit her with it? Okay,
I don't know who won that point. I think we
all did, Sam, we all won. That's why they call
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it love So but I guess the plastic balls and
that the rackets are different and they make much more noise.
So they had this tennis court turned into a pickleball
court at forest Hill Park there in Carmel butt Sea,
which is gorgeous, I mean, stunning place, and I could
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hear this this sound everywhere and now her outside garden,
even through her bedroom window, she couldn't enjoy anything anymore.
Now I don't what is that now? See? Is that
that's tennis? Though?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
If I was hearing that outside of my window, I
would be terrified.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Kind of would want to join in.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, No, that sounds more like murderous than pleasurable.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think the curiosity would get the best of me.
I'd go, see what's going on? Old, Yeah, that's a
little In my neighborhood, everything is gunshots. So it's like,
no matter what happened, someone's alved. Was that gunshot? So
if you heard, yeah, someone goes that. Gunshots. But as
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much as I'm annoyed when people try and control other
people's joy, I guess if the tennis the sound of
the soft racket against a soft ball changed to a
hard plastic ball, then a hard racket might be enough
in a place like Carmel by the seat. But I'm
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going to tell you right now, the pickle ball players
love that sound. When you play a game or you
do something and it makes a noise that becomes part
of your effort and engagement in the game. So I
guarantee pickleball players want the satisfaction that that thwack brings
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to them when they hit that ball right. And if
you are having one of these, you know, tennis courts
that are modified or turned into and I don't know
what that takes. I don't know what the difference is.
Is it just a simpler way to play tennis? Is
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it just like playing table tennis but on a court.
I really probably should have done a little deep dive,
right I mean, yeah, well no, but pickleball. You hear
it so much. I'm like, yeah, I know about pickleball,
and then when then when I think about it, I go,
I don't know crap about pickleball, Like, uh, it's just
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a Heather Brooker ever picked up the paddle of the
old pickleball?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
No, I went to I used to play tennis in
my thinner years, healthier years. But pickleball. The big difference
is the paddles that are used. And it's a smaller
court and a lower nets. It's a little easier to
play than tennis. Wow, you don't have to run as far.
The net is lower, So you know, it's not a
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real sport.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I have ping pong for that. Yeah, well that's what
I'm saying. Is it just ping pong on a tennis court? Yes? Yeah,
well where's the pickle? Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Those are served with the cocktails on the side, right,
That's why that's why everybody goes.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They go because.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, there's there's so many bougie pickleball ye people, especially
here in La they go. It's part of the country
club atmosphere or whatever. They go, They have their cocktails,
they play a little pickleball.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know, Well, what happened to tennis?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think tennis is still there, but it's sort of passe.
You know, it's not as hip as it used to be.
I'm saying this as someone who has no idea what
they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, welcome to the team, happy to be here. That's
a prerequisite to be a part of this program. But
you have to act like you know what you're talking about. Okay,
Handle taught us that. Well. So Carmel by the Sea
becomes the first California city to ban pickleball, and I
am I I don't know what side to be on.
(15:32):
Yay or oh?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I think anytime you ban something that people enjoy, that's
kind of a sad that's kind of a sad thing.
Not hurting anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You know. Well, this lady says that she's sick of
here in the flack. Well yeah, what that outside your door?
Yeah you do.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Imagine that sounds more like indoor activities.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah wow. Ohh got a hold of that one. Good
for her. Enjoy yourself. Oh wow. Oh and then the crowds. Wow,
that might motivate me. I love it. Yeah cheering. Okay,
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so pickleball bat cancel it. We've all become Karen's more
to come. Go to where nil Sevader in the morning crew.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Good Friday morning to you. It's black Friday today, of course,
deals so plenty. Citadel seems to be like the ground
and zero locally right off the five there, beautifully decorated.
It's a great area. It's beautiful place to shop. But
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during today, I don't know if I would you see
those lines right there. I don't know what that road is,
but runs parallel with the five freeway and it's always
just lined up to get inside there. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, thank you, I mean and It's not like they
don't have stores that are other places, Like there's an
old Navy in there, and there's like a Disney store.
I don't know, it's like you google other places to
get that. So, I mean it's a cool experience to
be there.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
After webs yeah and by yeah yeah sure, why not?
All right? This is up your alley, miss lady. By
the way you think of USC. Now, my I'm a
Trojan by marriage, so I support USC fight on, and
(18:00):
my wife went there and did her studies for social
work and got her masters and everything there at USC.
Big fan been on the campus many many times. You know,
it's probably what one hundred thousand dollars a year for
the tuition and housing and all if you're at least
(18:24):
yeah doing all that stuff. Right, So if you have
your kid at USC and they say, hey, yeah, you know,
I want to be a doctor, mom and dad, I do.
I want to do that. I'm going to be studying that,
but I'm going to minor in And they say, what, well,
(18:45):
I'm a miner. I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna do
the whole doctrine thing and I'm going to doctor stuff.
I'm going to be an MD, and I'm going to
fix people, going to be a flesh mechanic, and I'm
going to take care of people. But I'm also going
to minor in what's that? And let does they say,
I'm good a minor in in stand up comedy house? Yeah,
(19:09):
exactly right, you leave now. So this is an interesting
thing and and I actually I would be totally for
it if my son came to me on this. I
think comedy is a powerful tool. I think understanding improvisation
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is logic, it's reason, it's being in the moment, it's
understanding many different fields of life. But this is interesting.
So back in the fall of twenty fifteen, the University
School of Dramatic Arts there at USC has a minor
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that includes classes on you know, improvisation and magic other subjects.
But what they're finding is people that are going into
professions like medicine, engineering, things that have nothing to do
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with the arts, are taking are minoring in comedy for
other reasons, including confidence, things that will help develop skills
that they can use. There's actually, and I thought this
was fascinating, there is a class on medical clowning, you know,
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how to deal with people in dark places or people
that are in pain and this I got. You know,
Heather Brooker is in for Amy King today. She's also
a comedian and a writer and a performer and an actress.
Doesn't that make sense to you to have that skill
in your back pocket for whatever you do? Well?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, I mean there's so many people who their biggest
complaint with their doctors they have no bedside manner, you know,
they have no human skills. They're very robotic and very
perfunctory when they come in like you got this, your
test results, say this, and there's no like human connection, comedy,
improv those kinds of skills really help people connect more
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with you. And I think if you're going into a
field like engineering or even in the medical field, having
that also as part of your arsenal can make you
more well rounded doctor or professional, but also just human being.
I mean, look at Ken Jong, he kind of went
the opposite route. He started out as a doctor and
then got into comedy, you know, and now you know
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he can do both. I guess if he wants. And
it's like that. Remember the Robin Williams movie.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Remember that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, that's the first thing that I thought about Adams.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah, past Adams where he he was connecting with them
through through humor. And it's like you said, it's such
an important skill to have.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It is such a.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Overlooked I would say, skill to be able to make
someone laugh or smile and connect to them on a
human level, even if your job maybe isn't necessarily you
know that that connecting of a job. Like we have
even engineers here who I'm like, hey, how's it going,
how are you And they're.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Like, hi, good morning. You know like that it's not computed.
You don't understand you. No, they're very non we love
our interinvieering.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, but there is a disconnect there for sure in
some fields.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
For you know, in the human element you want to
I want you.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I grew up in a family of doctors and both
of them have senses of humor, which is great, but
you laughter is one of the things that heals people
the most sure, But also on an individual as the doctor, Uh,
there's a lot of anxiety that comes with the job,
and this helps as a way to burn off the tension.
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But also for the people you're working with, the people
who your patients, they're probably terrified too, and finding ways
to be able to communicate with them on what Heather
was saying, on a human level, it seems like this
is a great way to reduce anxiety all together throughout
the entire medical process. I think this should be something
that every doctor should do.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, this is and that's probably and even the engineers
and some of these I just think comedy is humanity
served to you on different types of plates. That's I mean,
that's the reality. Everything in life is about relationships, and
I think it's a I don't know that I want,
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you know, my doctor to walk in the room and say, hey,
who's got two thumbs and doesn't have cancer and points
to himself. This guy sorry to have to tell you.
You know, it's like it's not you. Yeah, it's like,
I don't know that I want walk gol waka because
I tend to yield towards doctors that don't have bedside
(24:08):
manners because they're they're for there for. Actually, I find
that doctors that are kind of a holes tend to
be very very good scientists. That doesn't mean that you
can't have a bedside manner and be good. I like
that sometimes too, but I find them to be two
(24:29):
different creatures.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, well, some people are just far more cerebral, like
they really lean more into the science, the data, like
those types of careers and profession and they just they're
not They don't feel the need to entertain.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
They don't feel the need to connect in that way.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
They like the data and they like the scientific, you know, processes.
But if you can find a way to soften it
a little bit, especially in the medical field, if you're
a doctor dealing with people and you're not just like
searcher in the labs and that sort of thing, then
you are making a better patient experience. You're also going
to get more patients because I'll tell you I'm in
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message boards where people are all the time looking for
new doctors going especially women who are like, can anybody
recommend a gynecologist that isn't awful, but you know someone
that can take the time and talk with it is
the number one complaint people have, especially with their doctors,
is that their doctor doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Take the time.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
While this is different, time is different, sure, but feel
like they're being heard maybe in the time that they have.
And that's also something that just comes along with being
able to relate to people and talk with people.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's the kind of doctor also that you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I don't want somebody who's doing my colonoscopy to see
be like, look at how long the scarf that I
can pull out of there is? Oh my, But I
would like, you know, for someone who's maybe end of life,
I want someone who has a way of a humor
about them, because you need to have someone who makes
people feel comfortable with what their experience instant, because there's
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a lot of fear around that.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, comedy has got its place. I don't want my
doctor during colonoscopy saying now, I want you to know
that it's normal if you get aroused and said no,
I'm fine, he said, I was talking to myself. Oh
my god, I don't know how many fingers am I holding. Yeah,
I don't need any yucks for that. But I will
tell you that women are different creatures, and I think
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the connection of verbalizing things is important. Where I'm like, listen,
we don't need to to chit chat. Put me up
on the you know, the risers for the for the car,
and look under the hood and just tell me what
needs to be done. You know, most of the time,
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that's that's it all logic. My way through the rest
of it and say, Okay, this is what it sounds
like to me. But I can understand that people. I
also if I was in the as Sam said, you know,
in the hospice or something, I don't want people to
treat me like I'm already dead in joke with me.
It's all right. I make a fun of those things too.
(27:05):
But I just found it interesting usc students want to
be doctors and engineers are minoring in comedy.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I think that's so smart. I think that's so smart.
They also are looking at a backup plan. Oh yes,
you know, just in case.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, you want to fall back on comedy as you know, right,
that's that's a steady job. Yeah, yeah, why don't you
bring people and maybe you'll get paid? All right? Neil
Servader of the Morning Crew today, Stick around more to
come KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Happy Friday to you. It is black Friday.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Die.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I hope there's no fighting, no black eyes, no bruised faces.
You remember when that was horrible for a long while.
I don't see it as much anymore. I mean, I
suppose it takes place, right. Neil Savader in the Morning
Crew with you Modified Morning Crew. Ann and I are
here and in for Amy King is Heather Brooker. In
(28:00):
for Kono is Sam Zia. So we're here to hang
out with you as you're running about, probably doing some shopping.
I'll do some today, but it will be it'll be
from home base. I don't think I'm running out there
today anywhere. I tend to do that. In my area.
There are mom and pop shops that's different, so I
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like to go into those and support them as well.
But a lot of things. If I'm going to go
to a shop that is in multiple places and like
a chain of something, I'll just grab it online or
something like that. Speaking of online social media, as social
media changed everything, and anybody says different is unattentive because
(28:47):
it just it did. It changed everything, and not always
for the good. We're finding more and more that they
are understanding the addiction that it causes, especially to young people,
and that the algorithm is designed to get them to
participate and to be more active. The rewards system, and
then a natural rewards system in our humanity that makes
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us pursue certain things is tied into this. And so
what we're seeing is around the world. You've got governments shifting.
They're doing strict age verification requirements for social media, and
the United States may not be far off. And it's
going to be a tough thing to do because the
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cat's already out of the bag and now we have
to teach young people that it's problematic. And if you
remember when there was talk about TikTok being banned in
the United States, there was some upheaval. A lot of
young people were like no, and then if you remember back,
(29:57):
YouTube had changed some of the algorithm and we started
showing up. I think one person showed up with a
gun to the YouTube headquarters. You know influencers that are like,
this is how I make my money now. I know
many YouTubers and it's not the money maker that you
think you have to have something. There used to be
(30:20):
a way to make real money on YouTube, but now
really it's about getting people that really love your content
to pay extra for it or to do you know,
to support you in other ways and to get sponsorships.
So it ends up being just like commercial radio or
anything else. But keep in mind that as this is happening,
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you've got Australia, You've got Malaysia, they enacted under sixteen bands.
I think that's smart. I think you have to control
that for young people the same way you would tobacco,
alcohol or anything else. I think it's actually probably more
damaging than those things things. I think as far as
body image and emotional content and connection, I think it
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can be very very dangerous, and you have a lot
of young people understrain, and we have a very sad
rise in young people suiciding, and I use that term
very specifically by the way, and the power of these
(31:32):
things and the power of the persuasion of these things
needs to be studied and understood, so more and more
we're going to see this as having some sort of
regulation on it, which I think is necessary because the
assumption is it's safe and it's just connection and all
(31:56):
of these things, but it's not opening yourself. You wouldn't
leave your windows open at night. Yeah, I think it's
In Ireland, they have a new pause before You post
kind of PSA and it shows a young girl maybe
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e nine, with her parents at a mall and as
they're going up the escalator, a man going down the
escalator is looks at the little girl says has a good,
have a good game today, and they go, do you
know him? She goes no, and as she's walking, a
woman says, uh, gosh, I hope your dad picks you
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up after the game, doesn't leave you waiting again, And
they're like what. It's all these things and the family
doesn't know what's going on, and is one of them
walks away from the family. They're scrolling through the little
girl's social media and it's like a picture of her
dad didn't pick me up today, or we got new jerseys,
or playing it and it's like how much you're telling
(33:01):
others strangers about you publicly? And I think that there's
way way more in people with bad intentions can put
together a pretty good sketch of who you are and
where you are in life if you do that. So
it's hard as a parent to know what's good or
bad in that arena because it's open windows to everything,
(33:26):
and it's a two way street and it's scary as hell.
So it makes sense that we need to look at
that again and see what and the age that should
be using social media. All right, Neil Savadra and the
Morning Crew, We're going to do some foody Friday coming up.
We'll talk about leftovers, how to use them, how to
make sure you don't get the turkey trots, different type
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of turkey trots. So go nowhere. This is KFI heard
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Not Bill Handles, I mean his Handle show, so see
the difference and out pears not Bill Handle.
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I love those uh intros from John Frost. They're so bespoke,
you know, like here's here's someone in the by the mic.
Enjoy it. KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. Good Friday morning to you, Neil Spader in
(00:47):
the morning, Crew Handles got today off, and and so
does Amy King and Kono. Really it's just me and
Ann and are wonderful people that came in here. Heather
Brooker for me and Sam Zea for Cono. Really it's
almost overkill to have Sam here because he's technically two
(01:10):
of Cono the height joke and bust his chops. Sorry,
he makes fat jokes about me, So bring it all right. Thanksgiving,
What a day yesterday. It was just a beautiful. It
was a beautiful day. The food was great. I saw
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my family a very lovely day in all ways. But
at my brother's house he and his wife, of course,
in the living room have their eighty five inch screen television, whatever,
massive and what's on football, and it probably was the
(01:54):
same in your house. Football is synonymous with Thanksgiving, but
it hasn't. It's been a long process for a long time,
for many reasons, to make that tie between the two.
Long standing tradition started back with college games. As a
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matter of fact, in the eighteen seventies. Wooh, you're ready
for this wow ride. That's the that's eighteen seventies, right,
that's like the old miners or something. It's a humdinger. Yeah, whoa, yeah,
I don't know, that's the late eighteen hundreds, right, that's
(02:38):
what you're going for. So eighteen seventies, and it was solidified.
Of course, the NFL comes aboard, and in nineteen thirty
four it was basically lucked in, so colleges began playing
and doing it on Thanksgiving for a day off. Well,
the NFL later began its own tradition. It started with
(03:01):
the Detroit Lions, followed by the Dallas Cowboys, and this
created just a full day of football for a national audience.
You know, people are eating and then you you know,
you eat earlier, and then you've got your stretching pants
on and you want to sit and watch something and
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you got a little bit of Americana there. So going
back to eighteen seventy six, you had the Intercollegiate Football Association.
They started having their championships on Thanksgiving Day. Now at
the time, it was you know, Thanksgiving. Now we've got
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like every single holiday off, but Thanksgiving was one of
the few days off from work back in the day.
So it was completely ideal for a major sporting event
that needs, you know, the large crowd, the focus of
the people. So call it just like Princeton Yale. They
(04:02):
established a popular thanks Giving Day rivalry because who doesn't
want to enjoy the trip to fan of their turkey
and watch a rivalry. So then you fast forward to
nineteen thirty four, you got the NFL. They adopt the
tradition by way of the Detroit Lions. So the Detroit Lions,
(04:26):
their owner at the time, George Richards, he introduced the
Thanksgiving Day game. But this was just to boost ticket sales.
They want the national audience as well because it's a
new team and they want to get the new team
off the ground. So again it's based on the same
(04:47):
principle of hey, get very few days off. People are
going to take Thanksgiving off. This is the time to
swoop in and take it. So the inaugural NFL game
between the Detroit Lions and the Chicago Bears, Go Bears,
was a broadcast on the radio and was a massive success.
You know why, radio, You're welcome. So nineteen sixty six
(05:10):
roles around. The Dallas Cowboys became the second team to
host a game on Thanksgiving and the tradition has continued
most of the year sis since and it establishes two keys,
key franchises of the holiday. NFL expanded into to include
(05:31):
third nighttime games, making a full day of football, and
it just is now inseparable from the holiday. Did you
guys have and did you guys have the TV on?
Were the games on? Absolutely? You have to do eight
things to respond with absolutely, Yeah, start with the parade,
(05:55):
right yeah, and then went into the games. And it's
just kind of the background of the holiday. Yeah. I'm
not a big sports guy yea, And yet I expect
it and sometimes I sit down and watch a little bit,
then I move on. Absolutely. So you have like the
room where that is where there's it's like the quiet
(06:15):
car on the train, you know, like if you're going
to be in here. You can chat a little bit,
but make it focused on the game. And then if
you want to talk about other stuff, then you go
in the other room. And it just seems like part
of it. I even know that, and sure enough you
go back. It goes back to the eighteen seventies. Well,
(06:37):
we gotta watch house have some football.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I gotta ask as a culinary expert. Oh, I'm not
an expert, but an enthusiast, yes, as an as a connoisseur. Yes,
what do you feel because after the games on the
football after the football games, the players of the game
usually get like a turkey leg and they wheel out
like an eight legged turkey. What do you feel about?
(07:01):
What I feel is? I mean people think that I'm
crazy for liking turduccan. Oh, I think this is more
of an abomination.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, once you start adding limbs to an animal, that
seems But you've had a turkey leg at Disneyland. Absolutely
nothing better. That's like King's meal, you know, the big
King sitting at the end of the table and taking
a bite out of a turkey leg.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's the best part of it. It makes you feel
slightly barbaric, but yeah, not like regal.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I'm going to eat from the bone of the animal.
'tis my privilege as a human, as a biped superior
to all four legged bees and beyond. Yeah, I'll take
it alrighty stick around. More to come, Nil Sevadra and
the Morning Crew. Happy Black Friday to you out there
with your hustle, and don't forget your bustle. Love me
(07:58):
some pickle rick. You don't know the reference. I'm sorry
for you. I feel sad, okay if I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Neil Savedra in
today on Black Friday with the Morning Crew handles taking
the day off. He'll be back on Monday. But uh,
(08:22):
I say pickle rick because pickleball is coming up now.
I am not super familiar with pickleball. I know it exists.
I know that people refer to it as lazy man tennis,
all kinds of different things. Guy heard Conway do just
going down a long diatribe about pickleball, how it's the
(08:44):
only sport that you know, you play for like ten
minutes and you're just as good as anybody else who's
been playing for years. It's like, but he's a little
he's a little darker guy than I am. But uh so,
I don't know a whole lot about it, but I
know that it's taken over and people love it. Girls
in their little outfits, guys in their little outfits whatever,
(09:06):
they're all running around. Well, Carmel by the Sea has
become the first California city to ban pickleball, and this
is I guess it comes down to just the noise level.
It's noisy. I mean, are people do they go ah
(09:27):
when they like in tennis. It's a little like when
they mike up the tennis court and you've got these
beautiful women going uh. I'm just saying. It's just saying
that it's a it's a powerful guttural So I don't
know if that happens in pickleball. But massive growth, I
(09:49):
mean it just has been everywhere. Is it dying down
at all? Or is it still popular? I don't know
anybody know about the popularity of pickleball right now, Buehler,
No one I know of it.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I just I mean, if you're gonna if it's about noise,
then if you're gonna ban pickleball, then you're gonna have
to ban tennis.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, apparently tennis is not as loud because the rock
the rackets are softer. Oh I thought it was the
grunting that we were. Well, if it's the grunting, we're
screwed because there's other things you're gonna have to start
banning then at that point, but you get this explosive growth.
(10:28):
So then you've got these enthusiasts and noise weary neighbors
across the country saying, you know, we don't want this
anymore that pop pop pop because it's a plastic ball.
So tennis, you got a racket with the tensioned string, right,
is that what it is? Oh yeah, wow, oh boy,
(10:53):
I see I could go to sleep to that. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's a Oh well, how did they hit her with it? Okay,
I don't know who won that point. I think we
all did, Sam, we all won. That's why they call
(11:17):
it love So but I guess the plastic balls and
that the rackets are different and they make much more noise.
So they had this tennis court turned into a pickleball
court at forest Hill Park there in Carmel butt Sea,
which is gorgeous, I mean, stunning place, and I could
(11:40):
hear this this sound everywhere and now her outside garden,
even through her bedroom window, she couldn't enjoy anything anymore.
Now I don't what is that now? See? Is that
that's tennis? Though?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
If I was hearing that outside of my window, I
would be terrified.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Kind of would want to join in.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, No, that sounds more like murderous than pleasurable.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think the curiosity would get the best of me.
I'd go, see what's going on? Old, Yeah, that's a
little In my neighborhood, everything is gunshots. So it's like,
no matter what happened, someone's alved. Was that gunshot? So
if you heard, yeah, someone goes that. Gunshots. But as
(12:33):
much as I'm annoyed when people try and control other
people's joy, I guess if the tennis the sound of
the soft racket against a soft ball changed to a
hard plastic ball, then a hard racket might be enough
in a place like Carmel by the seat. But I'm
(12:54):
going to tell you right now, the pickle ball players
love that sound. When you play a game or you
do something and it makes a noise that becomes part
of your effort and engagement in the game. So I
guarantee pickleball players want the satisfaction that that thwack brings
(13:18):
to them when they hit that ball right. And if
you are having one of these, you know, tennis courts
that are modified or turned into and I don't know
what that takes. I don't know what the difference is.
Is it just a simpler way to play tennis? Is
(13:39):
it just like playing table tennis but on a court.
I really probably should have done a little deep dive,
right I mean, yeah, well no, but pickleball. You hear
it so much. I'm like, yeah, I know about pickleball,
and then when then when I think about it, I go,
I don't know crap about pickleball, Like, uh, it's just
(14:01):
a Heather Brooker ever picked up the paddle of the
old pickleball?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
No, I went to I used to play tennis in
my thinner years, healthier years. But pickleball. The big difference
is the paddles that are used. And it's a smaller
court and a lower nets. It's a little easier to
play than tennis. Wow, you don't have to run as far.
The net is lower, So you know, it's not a
(14:27):
real sport.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I have ping pong for that. Yeah, well that's what
I'm saying. Is it just ping pong on a tennis court? Yes? Yeah,
well where's the pickle? Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Those are served with the cocktails on the side, right,
That's why that's why everybody goes.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
They go because.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, there's there's so many bougie pickleball ye people, especially
here in La they go. It's part of the country
club atmosphere or whatever. They go, They have their cocktails,
they play a little pickleball.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know, Well, what happened to tennis?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think tennis is still there, but it's sort of passe.
You know, it's not as hip as it used to be.
I'm saying this as someone who has no idea what
they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, welcome to the team, happy to be here. That's
a prerequisite to be a part of this program. But
you have to act like you know what you're talking about. Okay,
Handle taught us that. Well. So Carmel by the Sea
becomes the first California city to ban pickleball, and I
am I I don't know what side to be on.
(15:32):
Yay or oh?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I think anytime you ban something that people enjoy, that's
kind of a sad that's kind of a sad thing.
Not hurting anybody.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You know. Well, this lady says that she's sick of
here in the flack. Well yeah, what that outside your door?
Yeah you do.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Imagine that sounds more like indoor activities.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah wow. Ohh got a hold of that one. Good
for her. Enjoy yourself. Oh wow. Oh and then the crowds. Wow,
that might motivate me. I love it. Yeah cheering. Okay,
(16:23):
so pickleball bat cancel it. We've all become Karen's more
to come. Go to where nil Sevader in the morning crew.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Good Friday morning to you. It's black Friday today, of course,
deals so plenty. Citadel seems to be like the ground
and zero locally right off the five there, beautifully decorated.
It's a great area. It's beautiful place to shop. But
(17:02):
during today, I don't know if I would you see
those lines right there. I don't know what that road is,
but runs parallel with the five freeway and it's always
just lined up to get inside there. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, thank you, I mean and It's not like they
don't have stores that are other places, Like there's an
old Navy in there, and there's like a Disney store.
I don't know, it's like you google other places to
get that. So, I mean it's a cool experience to
be there.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
After webs yeah and by yeah yeah sure, why not?
All right? This is up your alley, miss lady. By
the way you think of USC. Now, my I'm a
Trojan by marriage, so I support USC fight on, and
(18:00):
my wife went there and did her studies for social
work and got her masters and everything there at USC.
Big fan been on the campus many many times. You know,
it's probably what one hundred thousand dollars a year for
the tuition and housing and all if you're at least
(18:24):
yeah doing all that stuff. Right, So if you have
your kid at USC and they say, hey, yeah, you know,
I want to be a doctor, mom and dad, I do.
I want to do that. I'm going to be studying that,
but I'm going to minor in And they say, what, well,
(18:45):
I'm a miner. I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna do
the whole doctrine thing and I'm going to doctor stuff.
I'm going to be an MD, and I'm going to
fix people, going to be a flesh mechanic, and I'm
going to take care of people. But I'm also going
to minor in what's that? And let does they say,
I'm good a minor in in stand up comedy house? Yeah,
(19:09):
exactly right, you leave now. So this is an interesting
thing and and I actually I would be totally for
it if my son came to me on this. I
think comedy is a powerful tool. I think understanding improvisation
(19:33):
is logic, it's reason, it's being in the moment, it's
understanding many different fields of life. But this is interesting.
So back in the fall of twenty fifteen, the University
School of Dramatic Arts there at USC has a minor
(19:54):
that includes classes on you know, improvisation and magic other subjects.
But what they're finding is people that are going into
professions like medicine, engineering, things that have nothing to do
(20:16):
with the arts, are taking are minoring in comedy for
other reasons, including confidence, things that will help develop skills
that they can use. There's actually, and I thought this
was fascinating, there is a class on medical clowning, you know,
(20:40):
how to deal with people in dark places or people
that are in pain and this I got. You know,
Heather Brooker is in for Amy King today. She's also
a comedian and a writer and a performer and an actress.
Doesn't that make sense to you to have that skill
in your back pocket for whatever you do? Well?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, I mean there's so many people who their biggest
complaint with their doctors they have no bedside manner, you know,
they have no human skills. They're very robotic and very
perfunctory when they come in like you got this, your
test results, say this, and there's no like human connection, comedy,
improv those kinds of skills really help people connect more
(21:25):
with you. And I think if you're going into a
field like engineering or even in the medical field, having
that also as part of your arsenal can make you
more well rounded doctor or professional, but also just human being.
I mean, look at Ken Jong, he kind of went
the opposite route. He started out as a doctor and
then got into comedy, you know, and now you know
(21:47):
he can do both. I guess if he wants. And
it's like that. Remember the Robin Williams movie.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Remember that.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, that's the first thing that I thought about Adams.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah, past Adams where he he was connecting with them
through through humor. And it's like you said, it's such
an important skill to have.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It is such a.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Overlooked I would say, skill to be able to make
someone laugh or smile and connect to them on a
human level, even if your job maybe isn't necessarily you
know that that connecting of a job. Like we have
even engineers here who I'm like, hey, how's it going,
how are you And they're.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Like, hi, good morning. You know like that it's not computed.
You don't understand you. No, they're very non we love
our interinvieering.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, but there is a disconnect there for sure in
some fields.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
For you know, in the human element you want to
I want you.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I grew up in a family of doctors and both
of them have senses of humor, which is great, but
you laughter is one of the things that heals people
the most sure, But also on an individual as the doctor, Uh,
there's a lot of anxiety that comes with the job,
and this helps as a way to burn off the tension.
(23:03):
But also for the people you're working with, the people
who your patients, they're probably terrified too, and finding ways
to be able to communicate with them on what Heather
was saying, on a human level, it seems like this
is a great way to reduce anxiety all together throughout
the entire medical process. I think this should be something
that every doctor should do.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, this is and that's probably and even the engineers
and some of these I just think comedy is humanity
served to you on different types of plates. That's I mean,
that's the reality. Everything in life is about relationships, and
I think it's a I don't know that I want,
(23:46):
you know, my doctor to walk in the room and say, hey,
who's got two thumbs and doesn't have cancer and points
to himself. This guy sorry to have to tell you.
You know, it's like it's not you. Yeah, it's like,
I don't know that I want walk gol waka because
I tend to yield towards doctors that don't have bedside
(24:08):
manners because they're they're for there for. Actually, I find
that doctors that are kind of a holes tend to
be very very good scientists. That doesn't mean that you
can't have a bedside manner and be good. I like
that sometimes too, but I find them to be two
(24:29):
different creatures.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, well, some people are just far more cerebral, like
they really lean more into the science, the data, like
those types of careers and profession and they just they're
not They don't feel the need to entertain.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
They don't feel the need to connect in that way.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
They like the data and they like the scientific, you know, processes.
But if you can find a way to soften it
a little bit, especially in the medical field, if you're
a doctor dealing with people and you're not just like
searcher in the labs and that sort of thing, then
you are making a better patient experience. You're also going
to get more patients because I'll tell you I'm in
(25:07):
message boards where people are all the time looking for
new doctors going especially women who are like, can anybody
recommend a gynecologist that isn't awful, but you know someone
that can take the time and talk with it is
the number one complaint people have, especially with their doctors,
is that their doctor doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Take the time.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
While this is different, time is different, sure, but feel
like they're being heard maybe in the time that they have.
And that's also something that just comes along with being
able to relate to people and talk with people.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's the kind of doctor also that you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I don't want somebody who's doing my colonoscopy to see
be like, look at how long the scarf that I
can pull out of there is? Oh my, But I
would like, you know, for someone who's maybe end of life,
I want someone who has a way of a humor
about them, because you need to have someone who makes
people feel comfortable with what their experience instant, because there's
(26:00):
a lot of fear around that.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, comedy has got its place. I don't want my
doctor during colonoscopy saying now, I want you to know
that it's normal if you get aroused and said no,
I'm fine, he said, I was talking to myself. Oh
my god, I don't know how many fingers am I holding. Yeah,
I don't need any yucks for that. But I will
tell you that women are different creatures, and I think
(26:23):
the connection of verbalizing things is important. Where I'm like, listen,
we don't need to to chit chat. Put me up
on the you know, the risers for the for the car,
and look under the hood and just tell me what
needs to be done. You know, most of the time,
(26:43):
that's that's it all logic. My way through the rest
of it and say, Okay, this is what it sounds
like to me. But I can understand that people. I
also if I was in the as Sam said, you know,
in the hospice or something, I don't want people to
treat me like I'm already dead in joke with me.
It's all right. I make a fun of those things too.
(27:05):
But I just found it interesting usc students want to
be doctors and engineers are minoring in comedy.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I think that's so smart. I think that's so smart.
They also are looking at a backup plan. Oh yes,
you know, just in case.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, you want to fall back on comedy as you know, right,
that's that's a steady job. Yeah, yeah, why don't you
bring people and maybe you'll get paid? All right? Neil
Servader of the Morning Crew today, Stick around more to
come KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Happy Friday to you. It is black Friday.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Die.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I hope there's no fighting, no black eyes, no bruised faces.
You remember when that was horrible for a long while.
I don't see it as much anymore. I mean, I
suppose it takes place, right. Neil Savader in the Morning
Crew with you Modified Morning Crew. Ann and I are
here and in for Amy King is Heather Brooker. In
(28:00):
for Kono is Sam Zia. So we're here to hang
out with you as you're running about, probably doing some shopping.
I'll do some today, but it will be it'll be
from home base. I don't think I'm running out there
today anywhere. I tend to do that. In my area.
There are mom and pop shops that's different, so I
(28:22):
like to go into those and support them as well.
But a lot of things. If I'm going to go
to a shop that is in multiple places and like
a chain of something, I'll just grab it online or
something like that. Speaking of online social media, as social
media changed everything, and anybody says different is unattentive because
(28:47):
it just it did. It changed everything, and not always
for the good. We're finding more and more that they
are understanding the addiction that it causes, especially to young people,
and that the algorithm is designed to get them to
participate and to be more active. The rewards system, and
then a natural rewards system in our humanity that makes
(29:12):
us pursue certain things is tied into this. And so
what we're seeing is around the world. You've got governments shifting.
They're doing strict age verification requirements for social media, and
the United States may not be far off. And it's
going to be a tough thing to do because the
(29:36):
cat's already out of the bag and now we have
to teach young people that it's problematic. And if you
remember when there was talk about TikTok being banned in
the United States, there was some upheaval. A lot of
young people were like no, and then if you remember back,
(29:57):
YouTube had changed some of the algorithm and we started
showing up. I think one person showed up with a
gun to the YouTube headquarters. You know influencers that are like,
this is how I make my money now. I know
many YouTubers and it's not the money maker that you
think you have to have something. There used to be
(30:20):
a way to make real money on YouTube, but now
really it's about getting people that really love your content
to pay extra for it or to do you know,
to support you in other ways and to get sponsorships.
So it ends up being just like commercial radio or
anything else. But keep in mind that as this is happening,
(30:43):
you've got Australia, You've got Malaysia, they enacted under sixteen bands.
I think that's smart. I think you have to control
that for young people the same way you would tobacco,
alcohol or anything else. I think it's actually probably more
damaging than those things things. I think as far as
body image and emotional content and connection, I think it
(31:09):
can be very very dangerous, and you have a lot
of young people understrain, and we have a very sad
rise in young people suiciding, and I use that term
very specifically by the way, and the power of these
(31:32):
things and the power of the persuasion of these things
needs to be studied and understood, so more and more
we're going to see this as having some sort of
regulation on it, which I think is necessary because the
assumption is it's safe and it's just connection and all
(31:56):
of these things, but it's not opening yourself. You wouldn't
leave your windows open at night. Yeah, I think it's
In Ireland, they have a new pause before You post
kind of PSA and it shows a young girl maybe
(32:18):
e nine, with her parents at a mall and as
they're going up the escalator, a man going down the
escalator is looks at the little girl says has a good,
have a good game today, and they go, do you
know him? She goes no, and as she's walking, a
woman says, uh, gosh, I hope your dad picks you
(32:39):
up after the game, doesn't leave you waiting again, And
they're like what. It's all these things and the family
doesn't know what's going on, and is one of them
walks away from the family. They're scrolling through the little
girl's social media and it's like a picture of her
dad didn't pick me up today, or we got new jerseys,
or playing it and it's like how much you're telling
(33:01):
others strangers about you publicly? And I think that there's
way way more in people with bad intentions can put
together a pretty good sketch of who you are and
where you are in life if you do that. So
it's hard as a parent to know what's good or
bad in that arena because it's open windows to everything,
(33:26):
and it's a two way street and it's scary as hell.
So it makes sense that we need to look at
that again and see what and the age that should
be using social media. All right, Neil Savadra and the
Morning Crew, We're going to do some foody Friday coming up.
We'll talk about leftovers, how to use them, how to
make sure you don't get the turkey trots, different type
(33:48):
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