August 22, 2025 • 39 mins
Erik Menendez was denied parole at his first-ever hearing—36 years and a day after he and his brother Lyle killed their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez. The board pointed to his prison behavior, past burglaries before the murders, and especially the killing of his mother in their decision. Now, all eyes are on Lyle’s parole outcome. Michael Monks and members of the DTLA Residents Association met with city officials and business leaders to address one of downtown’s toughest challenges: homelessness tied to acute mental illness episodes. Cracker Barrel lost nearly $100 million in market value after unveiling a new logo, sending shockwaves through investors. A man accused of attacking three people at a Rose Bowl concert has been arrested. Crozier shared his own story of recently having to step in during a similar confrontation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Happy afternoon to you, Happy Friday to you.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Neil Savedra here, Hey Robert, you have that promo that
Mark Thompson did for today?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Can we listen to that?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Mark Thompson here on the Conway Show? And later today
Neil Savadra sits in for Tim Always love our Neil
Savedra And I'm told he's got some pretty fun people
passing through, so check it out?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is that true? Is that bullcrap?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
No, we got I don't know, passing through, passing through
like it's a portal or something.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
No, we have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
But the thing that hit me when I heard that,
you know how much it costs to have Mark Thompson
voice something like Commerican, Idol and all that stuff. And
I didn't pay a dime for that?
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Wow, there is an invoice here though, but wait what Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
But it got me excited. I'm thinking, Oh, Mark's off today,
who's filling in?
Speaker 7 (01:11):
We got to make that the ring tone when he
calls you now you.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Always love our Nil Savedra.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's here for you. Yeah, I was just impressed.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Like Mark Thompson said, my name, so sorry about the letdown,
but I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
A lot to get to.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Mark always does a great job, as he did this week,
but there's still a lot to get to, including Eric
Menendez denied parole today and let's get Royal Oaks ABC
News legal analyst on yesterday rather sorry Royal, welcome to
the program.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Say thank you, Neil, And I am passing maybe in
another dimension like in the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Listen, man, I can handle the three that we have.
You get to the fourth dimension and I'm kind of like,
only only in the uh Marvel universe can I handle that?
So you're the legal and list I am not. You
are a legal mind. I am not. But I'm going
to say that he was denied parole because because he
(02:08):
shot his mom in the face. Did that have anything
to do with the fact they didn't let him out?
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Yeah, that's the nuclear core of it. Yeah. Yeah, And
of course we did see the decision, so we kind
of cheated. We know why they turned him down, and
that was a big deal. I mean, when you think
about it. Let's assume that the allegations of the use
for the dead were absolutely true, and that the two
guys were just like ptsd'd out. They were eighteen and
twenty one, but they had horrible lives. But they were adults.
(02:35):
I mean, they could have gone to Tulsa and opened
up an auto parts store, but they chose to stay
and kill their parents. But when they chose to kill both,
that kind of crossed the line in the view of
the commissioners denying Eric Menendez parole yesterday, because I mean,
first of all, they had shifting explanations, Oh, we killed
her because we thought she was suicidal, might as well
take care of her. Oh, we killed her because she
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would have been nowhere without dad, and we're taking care
of dad. And then the other explanation, we were devastated
that she was such an enabler. She didn't do anything
about Dad, she knew what he was up to. So
they kept changing this story. And you know, there's obviously
they weren't in imminent danger of being killed by Dad,
so they can't claim self defense. But yeah, that's a
big deal. But also, you know, they really slammed Derek
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for his violations during prison. You know, he took caroin
and he helped a bunch of gangsters behind bars with
tax frauds. So this was not a good person in
the view of the parole commissioners.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So you've got basically two things in our legal system.
Lock someone up because they're a threat to others, and
then punitive locking you up because you're a bad person.
You do bad things and you need punish to be
punished for them. That's kind of the you know, whittling
it down to bite sized pieces, that's really what it
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comes down to. Now there's some people that say, well,
if you didn't, you know, rape him like his dad did,
and you didn't do that, then you're not going to
reap any of this. But I keep thinking, Royle, that
if we continue to push the chain link back into
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like this infinite regression of culpability, so it's like they're
not culpable because their dad did something to them, then
if we learned that their dad was raped or molested
by his parents, does that push it off again? And
then you keep pushing these things off, like you said,
at some point as an adult you have to say,
(04:33):
I am going to break this cycle and I'm going
to put them behind bars and do what.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I need to do to stop this cycle.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Otherwise we just keep pushing it an excuse backwards and
backwards and backwards.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Yeah, you're right, it's a great point. And also using
words like infinite regression of culpability. I haven't heard that
since William Buckley was alive.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, I'm happy to bring it to your attention.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
You're and David Fry, you know the thing is there.
Actually Eric got a little bit of good news yesterday.
They said come on back in three years if you
want to try again. They could have said five, ten
or fifteen years. And if he comes back in three
years and his noses cleaned, he didn't do anything else
bad in prison, and if the shrinks say, my goodness,
he's a changed man, he could actually get out. A
(05:22):
lot of people kneel are wondering, well, GEU, where's the
governor and all this because of course he could veto
in order to release the other pear board. He could
also just on his own grant clemency. But guess what
after hearing yesterday that Eric's not getting out because he's
a moderate level of violence, a risk to commit violence,
ain't no way Newsom is going to let this guy
out because remember back in the day when Governor Dtakas
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ran president against George Bush and he let Willie Horton
out on weekend furlough even though Willie was a murderer
royal without parole. Yeah, that didn't go well. He got
out on the weekend furlough, he raped the woman and
assaulted somebody. So Nisan's not going to help out. But
here's the deal. Mark Garregos is now going to put
all his eggs in a different basket. He's going to say,
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what about the new evidence. What about the fact that Eric,
nine months before the murders in eighty nine, wrote to
his cousin saying, you know, Dad's been molesting me. And
that is better evidence than they presented at trial because
at trial they said, oh, yeah, we were molested, and
of course there was no corroboration. And he looks at
him and says, you're saying that because you don't want
to go to prison. But that is solid evidence. And
so Gargos is going to be saying to a judge
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and he could happen in the next few months. So
judge coudrule and say, you know what, the original jury
might have acted differently if they'd known about this new evidence.
So dog gone, and we're going to have a third
Menendez trial, so that would keep us all busy for
a while.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So it will get into his brother in a second.
But ultimately, my theory about all this is that at best,
at best, they're horribly, horribly broken human beings, and jail
didn't make that any better. So they, to me, have
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already shown that they make poor judgment calls, and that
is legitimate enough. Once you pull the trigger on your
mom's face. Keep in mind they shot her ten times
and reloaded and then shot her in the cheek in
the face.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
For the death shot.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That once you do those things, I mean, we put
down animals that get the taste of human blood and
or get too familiar with humans. And in a case
like this, I just think, yes, it's sad that there
might have been some you know, mitigating circumstances that put
them in this place of anger or fury or bloodlust,
(07:46):
whatever it is. But ultimately, Royal, can you see them
being like getting out and having a normal life and
you know, being a normal part of society at all
once you do those things or a part of that.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Yeah, personally I don't see it, but just just to
look at the other side of the coin. If Mark
Garrigos were here having a little discussion with you, what
he would say is I hear you, Neil. But the
courts have made it clear that the horrific nature of
the original crime is not the key determinant, because what
the law says is regardless of how bad you were
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thirty plus years ago, if now you have been rehabilitated,
you've shown true remorse. If the families, you know, the
victims' families, are in support of you, then you know
they'll give you a place to live. And if you
are not a risk to society, the law says you
should be given a fair shot at parole, regardless of
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what you did back then. The problem they're facing now
is that the shrinks that examine them say they're not
such a great risk. They're a moderate risk, which means
traditionally one out of five people who are moderate risks
get released. The shrinks who examine them said, Lyle is
a narcissist, and Eric is vulnerable and does what other
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people say. So I mean the Commission is relying heavily
on this psychological evaluation. And of course some people says
mumbo jumbo and his crystal ball stuff, But you know,
you got to have the experts examine people to try
to predict will they be okay on the outside. And
you know, so far the verdict hasn't done good. But
in three years for Eric, you know, if he gets
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glowing recommendations, probably seriously considered letting him out in spite
of your point of view that you know, you just
can't undo what they did in the eighties and they
deserve to be locked up for even more years.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
What about Lyle? What do you think the percentages for that?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
You know, he has a different situation in prison than
his brother.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yeah, he's not going to My prediction is he's not
going to get released today, first of all, because he
was the older brother who came up with the plan.
And secondly, after the murders, he went to his girlfriend
and he said, hey, you gotta say that dad raped
and drugged you. Okay, that's important to our case. And
of course she didn't and it came out that he
tried to subborn prijury. Then he went to another girlfriend
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and he said, you got to say that mom tried
to poison us. So this is not a good person.
So that on top of his violations during prison and
the fact that he was the mastermind. You know, you
don't want to go to Vegas this after in a
place a bet on Lyle getting out. It's funny. It's
not like an open court room where you know, the
public is entitled to see these parole hearing is confidentially
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are strict and barging. Nobody can talk about the decision
or anything that's going on. Is an early times reporters
monitoring it up in Sacramento. But if it's like yesterday,
then about five thirty or six tonight we're going to
hear the news. And you know, the betting is the
expectation is the news will be bad for Lyle and
then Mark errges as they say, well, we'll go to
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work coming up with that attempt to get them a
new trial.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Royal Oaks, ABC News legal analysts is with us.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
We're gonna let him go.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
One second, but really quickly, you mentioned very gross garatgos.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Sorry, it's an easy slip. AnyWho you.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
I don't think you should be allowed to say Katie
Porter's name because that could come out wrong to me.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yes, indeed, But my thought was, as you were portraying
him as a hypothetical, what he might say you threw
in remorse. Do have you seen, legally anybody bring up
cases where they've showed remorse, because I have not. I
have not seen any remorse that I personally would consider remorse.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Well, remorse is in a sense super easy to express.
All you have to do is say to your lawyer,
are you saying that it will increase my chances for freedom?
If I just said, am really really sorry? Okay, then
that's what I am. So that's easy to do, but
you have to back it up with actions. And of
course you know, the family members point out they've done
a bunch of great things meditation, gardens, and also it's
(12:02):
the counseling. But it's yeah, remorse is kind of easy.
But that's why they have experts to try to figure
out if if you're faking it or not. And that's
why they're a psychiatrists to assess the risk levels. I mean,
if it's a high risk level, less than one percent
of people are bumped out. I'm not sure why anybody
with a high risk level of violence after release would
get released. But if you're ninety three years old, and
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you know, maybe you're going to crush somebody's garden or something.
That's not a big deal, but yeah, risk and remorse
and rehabilitation of the three big factors.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
For those playing the home game.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Remember, if you kill mom and dad by shooting them
in the face, make a meditation garden. Royal Oaks, abcdu's
legal analyst in Los Angeles, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Roy Ill appreciate your time. As always. You're bad up
a good weekend you as well, sir.
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Have Friday to you.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Nil Sebag just sitting in for Mark Thompson who was
sitting in for like, how deep do I have to go?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So I just keep going, Yeah, don't give me those
pity laughs. Well, I'm not happy with you right now.
I'm not happy with you. What did I do? You
missed a car chase? We covered car chases here. I
did not.
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Are you talking on all the televisions? Yeah, you missed it.
That's what we do here.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Was it a big one?
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Yeah?
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I mean it wasn't long. I did not know.
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Yeah, And and now because of that our listeners didn't
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Oh, let's just go home, you know, you know what.
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Talk much, thank you, My goodness. Tiffany Hobb's gonna come in.
Tiffany's coming in from O Kelly.
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Form I see it's vacation season at KFI.
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I haven't been in this many people since high school.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Whoa kid?
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Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And that is the voice, Uh, you know, in case
people don't listen every second, don't.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Exactly let them know. Uh, the the KFI News.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Team, Michael Monks with us right now. A lot going
on in downtown LA, A new residential What is this
like a survey?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, the Downtown Residents Association.
Speaker 10 (14:44):
This is a group that has formed because they did
not feel like there was enough voice for the people
who live downtown to speak to city officials and business
leaders and the movers and shakers about what that means
existence in downtown LA. And and I finally trying to
draw some attention to the very serious problems that are
going on down there. So they commissioned a survey. They
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got over seven hundred responses, And I don't know if
you'll be surprised at what type of issues top the
list of concerns. So what did top the lists? I'm
going to pretend like I couldn't guess them much. Honestly,
if you were to throw that question out to just
the general public who are listening to us across southern California, LA,
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Orange Counties, all of that, Ventura County, San Bernardino County,
they might talk about crime, and that's true. That's also
there are various criminal issues that are at the top,
but not the very top. The very top of this
list are the folks who are walking around having what
have been classified as acute public mental health crises and episodes.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Are those the ones that lean at the waist the
fiftyfold all that in reference to fentanyl. Yeah, but they
stand up and they stand they fold.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So there's that.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
There are the people who are clearly either out of
their minds or on some sort of substance, who are
just screaming at the top of their lungs, or they're
completely disrobed, or they're standing in the middle of traffic.
They're fighting the air, punching it. Well, let's be honest.
Though the air sometimes get a little bit. It's got
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an attitude problem. Yeah, it needs an adjustment every now
and then. Thick and the air smells bad, often because
of public urination and defecation. Also on the list.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Because I lived maybe seven minutes away from you. Yeah,
have you ever called city hall and said something and
have them go, sir or ma'am.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It is not illegal. It's not against a law to
be homeless.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
And you say, but what about peeing and pooping all
over the place.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
That's really the key issue meal because it's not illegal
to be homeless, but technically it is illegal to sleep
on the sidewalk, and it is illegal to block traffic,
and it is illegal to do drugs on this sidewalk.
And that was The purpose of this survey was to
have some ammunition for this group that has formed. They're
a couple of years old now that they want to
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draw attention to the issues, not just the fact that
they exist. Everyone knows they exist, but that there are
people who are impacted by it, and not only the
people who are living down there, but the people you
live seven minutes away, but your neighbors in your neighborhood
who might have considered coming seven minutes down and having
dinner might change their minds. Oh well, don't get me wrong,
(17:34):
I'm seven minutes away from downtown.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I still have the home. You don't live in LA
I know that. I know that is not There is
not a separation in the issue. It may be a
little bit more concentrated, but absolutely in my neck of
the woods. I'm on the eastern side of Los Angeles.
So yeah, yeah, we have plenty of issues.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
No question it is.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
It does seem to be more consolidated in the downtown
neighbor the geographical boundaries that constitutes downtown LA. I live
in the fashion district adjacent to skid Row. I see
it right around my own block all the time. I
have called the police once and City Hall once, not
in my capacity as reporter, but just as a resident.
Usually I just don't because I do work here and
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it feels weird to call and complain. But I saw
a fight that was pretty scary involving some people that
looked like they were out of their minds, and the
police didn't come. And the other time was I called
because suddenly homeless tent showed up on my block for
the first time and surrounded the block in an instant,
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and I'm like, it's actually, you know, hard to drive
out of the parking lot because your view is obscured
and that's dangerous. You can't walk on the sidewalks anymore.
They have tried to come down and clean this up,
and it immediately re emerges.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Immediately.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They start in our block some time ago when it
was really bad during the pandemic, and and you got
to nip that pretty quickly. See the beds going down
and the lean tos and all of that. Yeah, and
I have you seen if it is I say that
it's feral humans and it is not compassion to leave
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them out there in their own filth. Has that changed,
because I don't find it to be without compassion to say,
you know what, they can't live in their own filth
like animals.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
That's the argument that you often hear about homelessness at
the highest level of government, even from I heard a
councilman Monic Rodriguez on your live show last weekend. As
she's a friend of yours, she has raised the most
questions at city Hall about the way homeless funds are spent.
She's not somebody who wants to grab homeless people by
the scruff of their necks and throw them in some
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other gutters somewhere, but does say, you know, we need
to be more responsible with our money. There are folks
who vote against other council members who say we can't
allow sleeping on this that or these streets. Those she's
come up in city all every so often very specific
to very specific districts, and you have council members who
vote against that. You have council members who vote against
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removing the RVs because that's people's homes. But like you're saying,
there are other folks like that's not compassionate. It's dangerous
to allow people to live in those conditions. And if
you force people's hands, if you forced the movement of
those folks, you would see more rapid development.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I think of shelter and what's the weakest fit.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're giving them the weakest length, and you're almost forcing
them on the streets because you're not. The money that
they have is so millions, and you're right. Councilwoman Monica
Rodriguez of the seventh District has been the voice when
it comes to this stuff, saying where's the money?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, and she was shot down.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
She's not gotten a lot of allies to support her
in that effort because there are folks who believe that
because the homeless population has dropped according to numbers created
by the same people that are supposed to be providing
these services, it's dropped very modestly. They say, we're on
the right track, so let's not disrupt it too much.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
What they don't tell you is that you have thousands
that are dying on the streets and that's why it's
going down, not because people are being helped. Nobody says that,
but except us, we're saying it. Michael Monks, nice.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
To see you. Everybody where they can hear you. This weekend.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
You know what, I'm preempted by the chargers this weekend yeah,
and I think you are too. Thirty minutes. You got
thirty minutes the last, the last thirty of this. That's
all I need.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Why don't you come up? What you you know? What
you Tiffany and I.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Should do the show thirty minutes with the Saturday Yeah,
well just it's ten minutes each.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, we'll do that. Oh I have I have two
to four to thirty. I think i'll share. Nice, let's
do it. I like that, all right, my friend.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
So you know I'll be back the next Saturday and you
can hear me every Saturday night seven. We've got a
great line up on Saturdays, don't we.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's fun.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
I have a good time on the weekend. It's proud
to be a part of it. Absolutely. Hey, thanks for
having me on this. I don't even know what show
I'm on at this point.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
No, nor do I. Oh, that's Crozier. This is Conway.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Oh you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Happy to be with you, and we'll be with you
again tomorrow. Although we're preempted the last thirty minutes of
the show for the Chargers in the pregame there, so
we will hand everything over at four thirty, but from
two to four thirty I'll be live tomorrow and so
join me there. And of course you got Tiffany Hobbs
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tonight in four mister mo Kelly, who I think is
on vacation, living the life, living the life, all right,
Cracker Barrel. Don't hear a lot about Cracker Barrel in
the news. Not a lot newsworthy, I suppose. But I
am a little frustrated that everything becomes conservative or liberal
or political when there's change. If you haven't heard, Cracker
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Barrel is putting a lot of money I think, like
seventy million or something like that into redoing, redoing their
insides and the vibe, redoing their logo. Now, I come
from a marketing background, logos design, and have done all
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kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
In this area.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I will tell you it is even though people will
see through a conservative event or a political v e
vent I have or bent. Rather, I've learned that people
don't listen with their ears anymore. They listen with their bias.
They listen with their bent, and they listen with their triggers.
(23:45):
Just too bad. I miss good old rational days, just
being rational. So when it comes to food being your
friendly neighborhood for reporter, I know a thing or two
about food. I've talked to many restaurant tours. I have
talked many chefs. I've talked to designers that design layouts
for restaurants and bars all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And I will tell.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You when you are making changes, it hits people viscerally.
And I'll tell you why food is comfort. When you
talk to a chef and they talk about, you know,
the foods they're making. Oh, I'm designing this and I'm
putting this together, and you ask them, well, you know,
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what's your comfort?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's like mac and cheese.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Why because mom, dad, Auntie whatever, Maybe mac and cheese
when I was a kid. We go back to things
that make us feel a certain way. People aren't a
fan of change to begin with. Is the logo offensive?
No little boring little simple looks very corporate y. I
guess the charm of Cracker Barrel and their food to
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me has gone down a little bit in quality. But
the charmed to me was that it was homie. It
had the little country store in front with weird stuff
in it, fun things, holiday things. The food was comfort food.
Your potatoes, your rolls, your cheese and butter and all
of these things, and the vibe looked like you were
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kind of in someone's house sort of. The video and
photos that I've seen of the changes on the inside
don't interest me. They seem cold and separate. It seems
it's not homie, it's not warm. It doesn't seem to
have anything that would appeal to me for this type
(25:41):
of food, that comfort food. As far as the logo goes,
like I said, it's not like it's offensive in any way.
I think one of the things that bums people out
is the removal of a particular character. They called him
Uncle Herschel, and he actually goes back. He's been front
and center on the logo for a long time, sitting
on the chair next to the barrel, because literally it's
(26:04):
named after the way crackers used to come in barrels,
and that was a you know, a big part of it.
In changing those things, you got to have good reason
for it, and you have the new the CEO, I
(26:25):
think she came in sometime in twenty three, CEO, Julie
fels Messino. She described the chain as not as relevant
as we once were, and she announced plans to update
its down home menu. She says, you know, some people
(26:51):
call it woke. I don't think it's woke. I think
companies change things. It's just the way companies do. They're
trying to stay fresh, exciting and interesting in life. However,
you've got now them losing a million dollars in value
as their stock plunges after the new logo release.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
How does that help a brand? Now? If it's political,
that's asinine to me. That it's not. It's you know.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
If they if the new CEO has a particular political
bent and a way of seeing things, Yeah, that's going
to permeate, just like anybody does, I suppose. But if
they're trying to refresh something, to me, they're doing it wrong.
If the home, if the whole feel of it was
supposed to be homeie, you know, you have to hit
(27:41):
those notes. I didn't see anything from somebody who visits
a lot of restaurants and does an entire three hour
show on weekends to remind you to visit restaurants. I
didn't see anything that made me want to go there more.
The the makeover of the room, the actual layout of
the dining room.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Booh, it's too bright.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
The warmth, the fireplace, even if it's not on the
feel of it, the cast iron, the pots and pans,
the wood that those are things that drew me into
Cracker Barrel as a place that feels kind of homey,
even the way things were served, and playing that little
pin game or whatever with the golf teas or whatever
(28:25):
in there, the little puzzle stuff like that made it
homey and feel like that.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And if they take that away, I doubt it will work.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So watching their shares fall and them still coming out
with saying it's been mostly positive, that seems like crap too,
So I guess we'll keep our eyes peeled to see
what continues to happen with that Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Watch twenty twenty five.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
He's ooting the boot doing whatever? What does he do?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Like?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
What is he? Is he on vacation or something?
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
He is.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Like I feel like.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
If I handed things over to Crow and I walked
two minutes or whatever to his house from the studio
here and knocked on the door, he'd be in his
underwear watching TV.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Well, he did mention last week on Friday. That day
he was going to spend the week with Steffus at
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Okay, I see what you're doing. You're trying to make
me feel bad.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
He took his vacation to be with Steph, just saying
he's a good man.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Do you feel bad because I think this is crap?
I think I fail.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I'm sorry, you know, just you can't sit in on
his show and then call him out.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's such a good bad if that is what he's doing.
I think that's actually wonderful. That is really beautiful. Could
you imagine Foush showing the wound? Tim go away. He
don't look like a type of guy who wants to
look at a wound.
Speaker 11 (30:03):
I can imagine why you could handle it. I can
imagine my tuesdays. STEP's like, oh my god, still here.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
You know how many times every time he goes beepoop
in there, He's like, He's like, now it's the machine
heart reaching.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Are you feeling God blessed? Feeling?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Nothing better, by the way than hearing professional newspeoples and
the foosh?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
No.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Tim played on Loop Rick Chambers saying and the fush
was pulled from the burning car.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh my god, I love that one. The fush was
That's like a line in a Stephen King novel. The
foosh was dragged from the burning car before the cat
that rose from the dead came and looked eyes into
the living car, and the clown laughed hysterically. All right there,
you have you seen the video of that wing nut
(30:54):
in Pasadena. He's there at a concert. I don't know
this band, by the way, Rufus du Soul. Is that
what it is?
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I think ye're Brazilian.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I don't know. No, they're Australian.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Same thing.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, there are alternative dance band. So with a bunch
of people dancing like you know what, that's alternative dance band.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Sure, why not?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Elaine is out there on the dance floor from Seinfeld.
That's an alternative dance if I've ever seen one. So
this wingnut Julio Cesar Lopez Zavala twenty three tons of
videos of him beating the crap out of a woman
in the seats. Now, apparently this all took place at
(31:47):
twelve h the section there at the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
She I heard two different things.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I heard her fiance or a guy spilled the drink
and apologized, and this guy came back and hit her.
Now I'm reading that she spilled the drink on the
man in front of her, apologized, he seemed to say
that it was, you know, on purpose, and then left
for thirty minutes and then came back threatened violence. She
(32:16):
tried to calm the situation down, apologize to the guy,
and the next thing she remembers she woke up and.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
She's in a medical tent. She missed the entire show.
But the crazy thing is.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
If you've seen this video, a woman comes up and
grabs him by the pants. I don't know if that's
his date or somebody grabshi by the pants and almost
pulls him down to stop him. But he is ferocious,
like an untamed pit bull, just going after this woman,
hitting her, beating her in that amongst the head and face,
(32:54):
and she gets knocked out. Apparently the woman declined for
their treatment and transportation to the hospital, said a city spokesperson.
But it's pretty brutal. Well, they found the guy and
he's arrested and we're going to find out what's going
He can't do this stuff anymore. You know, if you're
sitting in a seat that you know where you are
(33:17):
and the person in front of you. They can find
out what that seat number is and who bought the
tickets and track it down pretty easy. Not to mention
that there's video of it. But the most the most
painful thing any one person can be a wing nut
is the lack of defense. I'm gonna say it by
(33:38):
any man in the area, Like I didn't see someone
that just jumped over her and protected her or got
this guy in a chokehold or anything. And I'm not
saying I'm going to jump over three chairs to be
a hero.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I'm I'd want if I was with my wife and
my on, I'd want them to be protected. But I
can't watch somebody be pummeled in front of me, especially
a man pummeling a woman in a case like that,
and do nothing about it. I mean, Krozer, would you,
how would you react to that? If you could, if
you could know that you're who you were with, your
(34:19):
people were safe.
Speaker 11 (34:22):
I I brought this up earlier to the mark early
this week, but just last week, my wife and I
were walking through our neighborhood and we saw a guy
basically beating up his kid, and I.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
His the mother of the kid.
Speaker 11 (34:35):
Apparently we were walking by the car and they kind
of went at it, and I pulled out my phone
and I went to take a picture, because you're, like
you say, you know you're in this situation. You're really
quickly trying.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
To You're going, do I need evidence? Do I need
what do I You.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Know, right, you're trying to assess does the guy I
have a weapon or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
You know, how much are you how much do you
get involved?
Speaker 11 (34:54):
So she saw me pull out my phone and she
instantly tried to stop me, saying, oh, he's got he's
got autism, and dad, I was just trying to get
him from hurting himself, I.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Said, with blows to the head.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
And I said, I said, you got nothing to worry
about to the lady, and I took a picture. And
then the guy turns to me and he just starts
just verbally just coming at me, and then he physically
starts coming at me. I put my hand on it,
and I said, you don't want to do this, man,
you don't want to do this, and that he just
kept mf and me and and the whole time I
was still walking away with my wife and you're constantly assessing,
(35:26):
you know.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Where he's not.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
For one, Yeah, that's a little different because in an
enclosed arena, yeah, they've been screened.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
Yeah, they shouldn't have a weapon on him, right right,
It could happen, but you have to still have to assess.
But on the street it's a little different. Yeah, there's
a lot more to you know.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
And we also talked about how the Sharis law from
from the girl that was killed down at prin Nevada,
that created because one of the two guys that was
involved in it wasn't ever even charged most as convicted
of anything, but they created laws based on that that
basically require there's people to act in some way if
they're seeing something happening, you know something.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
If you can't do anything, you can look at somebody
and say, hey, I'm listening to a police scanner and
I heard a call come in for this location. Just
letting you know, man, at least, yeah, for nothing else,
it will make them stop.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Isn't it also a good idea if like you know,
it's always asking the man to step up, but if
like a bunch of men together intervene, you're yeah, so
you're not doing it yourself that you've got this group together.
Speaker 11 (36:37):
And you would hope that in a situation like that,
if one person had stepped forward, that would have caused
others to come forward. Everybody's waiting for that one first person.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I I have.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know, it was a different time back then, but
I was with somebody back in the day who was
married to someone that worked here, but he was not there.
We're at a restaurant and this there these two guys.
I kept hitting on her and saying things, and she's
getting ncomfortable, and I said, hey, knock it off. You
can see she's got a ring, she's married. Leave her alone.
(37:09):
And one guy got mouthy, so I got up to
deal with him and say, I'm not going to tell
you again, and then his friends started to stand up,
and I I briefly told him why that would be
a bad idea and.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Dealt with this guy.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
And the minute other guys see you do that, that's
when they tend to start coming in and again. Yeah, so,
but I'm a fairly big guy.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
So and you've been trained to, you know, take care
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I don't say something if I don't meet it and
mean it. And I'm not trying to play the big
tough guy. I prefer to not have to deal with that.
But I do notice that once someone steps up, others
get in there to help. Usually yeah, because they're like, yeah,
this is probably what we should be doing, but it
is hard. I want to come home to my wife
and my son. Yes, you know, but to call the cops.
(38:04):
There's also an app by the way that you can
get that has a scanner on it. And I will
tell you this. You put that scanner on full blast
and you put it in your back pocket and they
hear police talk.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
It shuts people up very quickly. It does.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
They don't know if you've got a radio on you
and you're a cop, they don't know. But there's an app,
and I've done this with homeless people in my area.
I put that app on, I put it on my
phone in full blast, I put in my back pocket
and I asked them, are they okay? Do you need
any help? And they mosey along, No fights, no problems.
(38:43):
Tips to deal with your neighbors from Neil Savedra. All right,
Neil Savedra in for Tim Conway. Jun you're a very
special guest coming up that I want you to meet
an auction that's going off in September, early September here
in Los Angeles that if you're like me, you're gonna
want to know about So Go Nowhere.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Happy afternoon to you, Happy Friday to you.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Neil Savedra here, Hey Robert, you have that promo that
Mark Thompson did for today?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Can we listen to that?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Mark Thompson here on the Conway Show? And later today
Neil Savadra sits in for Tim Always love our Neil
Savedra And I'm told he's got some pretty fun people
passing through, so check it out?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is that true? Is that bullcrap?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
No, we got I don't know, passing through, passing through
like it's a portal or something.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
No, we have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
But the thing that hit me when I heard that,
you know how much it costs to have Mark Thompson
voice something like Commerican, Idol and all that stuff. And
I didn't pay a dime for that?
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Wow, there is an invoice here though, but wait what Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
But it got me excited. I'm thinking, Oh, Mark's off today,
who's filling in?
Speaker 7 (01:11):
We got to make that the ring tone when he
calls you now you.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Always love our Nil Savedra.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's here for you. Yeah, I was just impressed.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Like Mark Thompson said, my name, so sorry about the letdown,
but I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
A lot to get to.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Mark always does a great job, as he did this week,
but there's still a lot to get to, including Eric
Menendez denied parole today and let's get Royal Oaks ABC
News legal analyst on yesterday rather sorry Royal, welcome to
the program.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Say thank you, Neil, And I am passing maybe in
another dimension like in the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Listen, man, I can handle the three that we have.
You get to the fourth dimension and I'm kind of like,
only only in the uh Marvel universe can I handle that?
So you're the legal and list I am not. You
are a legal mind. I am not. But I'm going
to say that he was denied parole because because he
(02:08):
shot his mom in the face. Did that have anything
to do with the fact they didn't let him out?
Speaker 8 (02:14):
Yeah, that's the nuclear core of it. Yeah. Yeah, And
of course we did see the decision, so we kind
of cheated. We know why they turned him down, and
that was a big deal. I mean, when you think
about it. Let's assume that the allegations of the use
for the dead were absolutely true, and that the two
guys were just like ptsd'd out. They were eighteen and
twenty one, but they had horrible lives. But they were adults.
(02:35):
I mean, they could have gone to Tulsa and opened
up an auto parts store, but they chose to stay
and kill their parents. But when they chose to kill both,
that kind of crossed the line in the view of
the commissioners denying Eric Menendez parole yesterday, because I mean,
first of all, they had shifting explanations, Oh, we killed
her because we thought she was suicidal, might as well
take care of her. Oh, we killed her because she
(02:56):
would have been nowhere without dad, and we're taking care
of dad. And then the other explanation, we were devastated
that she was such an enabler. She didn't do anything
about Dad, she knew what he was up to. So
they kept changing this story. And you know, there's obviously
they weren't in imminent danger of being killed by Dad,
so they can't claim self defense. But yeah, that's a
big deal. But also, you know, they really slammed Derek
(03:18):
for his violations during prison. You know, he took caroin
and he helped a bunch of gangsters behind bars with
tax frauds. So this was not a good person in
the view of the parole commissioners.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So you've got basically two things in our legal system.
Lock someone up because they're a threat to others, and
then punitive locking you up because you're a bad person.
You do bad things and you need punish to be
punished for them. That's kind of the you know, whittling
it down to bite sized pieces, that's really what it
(03:51):
comes down to. Now there's some people that say, well,
if you didn't, you know, rape him like his dad did,
and you didn't do that, then you're not going to
reap any of this. But I keep thinking, Royle, that
if we continue to push the chain link back into
(04:12):
like this infinite regression of culpability, so it's like they're
not culpable because their dad did something to them, then
if we learned that their dad was raped or molested
by his parents, does that push it off again? And
then you keep pushing these things off, like you said,
at some point as an adult you have to say,
(04:33):
I am going to break this cycle and I'm going
to put them behind bars and do what.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I need to do to stop this cycle.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Otherwise we just keep pushing it an excuse backwards and
backwards and backwards.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
Yeah, you're right, it's a great point. And also using
words like infinite regression of culpability. I haven't heard that
since William Buckley was alive.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, I'm happy to bring it to your attention.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
You're and David Fry, you know the thing is there.
Actually Eric got a little bit of good news yesterday.
They said come on back in three years if you
want to try again. They could have said five, ten
or fifteen years. And if he comes back in three
years and his noses cleaned, he didn't do anything else
bad in prison, and if the shrinks say, my goodness,
he's a changed man, he could actually get out. A
(05:22):
lot of people kneel are wondering, well, GEU, where's the
governor and all this because of course he could veto
in order to release the other pear board. He could
also just on his own grant clemency. But guess what
after hearing yesterday that Eric's not getting out because he's
a moderate level of violence, a risk to commit violence,
ain't no way Newsom is going to let this guy
out because remember back in the day when Governor Dtakas
(05:46):
ran president against George Bush and he let Willie Horton
out on weekend furlough even though Willie was a murderer
royal without parole. Yeah, that didn't go well. He got
out on the weekend furlough, he raped the woman and
assaulted somebody. So Nisan's not going to help out. But
here's the deal. Mark Garregos is now going to put
all his eggs in a different basket. He's going to say,
(06:06):
what about the new evidence. What about the fact that Eric,
nine months before the murders in eighty nine, wrote to
his cousin saying, you know, Dad's been molesting me. And
that is better evidence than they presented at trial because
at trial they said, oh, yeah, we were molested, and
of course there was no corroboration. And he looks at
him and says, you're saying that because you don't want
to go to prison. But that is solid evidence. And
so Gargos is going to be saying to a judge
(06:26):
and he could happen in the next few months. So
judge coudrule and say, you know what, the original jury
might have acted differently if they'd known about this new evidence.
So dog gone, and we're going to have a third
Menendez trial, so that would keep us all busy for
a while.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
So it will get into his brother in a second.
But ultimately, my theory about all this is that at best,
at best, they're horribly, horribly broken human beings, and jail
didn't make that any better. So they, to me, have
(07:03):
already shown that they make poor judgment calls, and that
is legitimate enough. Once you pull the trigger on your
mom's face. Keep in mind they shot her ten times
and reloaded and then shot her in the cheek in
the face.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
For the death shot.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That once you do those things, I mean, we put
down animals that get the taste of human blood and
or get too familiar with humans. And in a case
like this, I just think, yes, it's sad that there
might have been some you know, mitigating circumstances that put
them in this place of anger or fury or bloodlust,
(07:46):
whatever it is. But ultimately, Royal, can you see them
being like getting out and having a normal life and
you know, being a normal part of society at all
once you do those things or a part of that.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
Yeah, personally I don't see it, but just just to
look at the other side of the coin. If Mark
Garrigos were here having a little discussion with you, what
he would say is I hear you, Neil. But the
courts have made it clear that the horrific nature of
the original crime is not the key determinant, because what
the law says is regardless of how bad you were
(08:23):
thirty plus years ago, if now you have been rehabilitated,
you've shown true remorse. If the families, you know, the
victims' families, are in support of you, then you know
they'll give you a place to live. And if you
are not a risk to society, the law says you
should be given a fair shot at parole, regardless of
(08:43):
what you did back then. The problem they're facing now
is that the shrinks that examine them say they're not
such a great risk. They're a moderate risk, which means
traditionally one out of five people who are moderate risks
get released. The shrinks who examine them said, Lyle is
a narcissist, and Eric is vulnerable and does what other
(09:03):
people say. So I mean the Commission is relying heavily
on this psychological evaluation. And of course some people says
mumbo jumbo and his crystal ball stuff, But you know,
you got to have the experts examine people to try
to predict will they be okay on the outside. And
you know, so far the verdict hasn't done good. But
in three years for Eric, you know, if he gets
(09:25):
glowing recommendations, probably seriously considered letting him out in spite
of your point of view that you know, you just
can't undo what they did in the eighties and they
deserve to be locked up for even more years.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
What about Lyle? What do you think the percentages for that?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
You know, he has a different situation in prison than
his brother.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yeah, he's not going to My prediction is he's not
going to get released today, first of all, because he
was the older brother who came up with the plan.
And secondly, after the murders, he went to his girlfriend
and he said, hey, you gotta say that dad raped
and drugged you. Okay, that's important to our case. And
of course she didn't and it came out that he
tried to subborn prijury. Then he went to another girlfriend
(10:07):
and he said, you got to say that mom tried
to poison us. So this is not a good person.
So that on top of his violations during prison and
the fact that he was the mastermind. You know, you
don't want to go to Vegas this after in a
place a bet on Lyle getting out. It's funny. It's
not like an open court room where you know, the
public is entitled to see these parole hearing is confidentially
(10:30):
are strict and barging. Nobody can talk about the decision
or anything that's going on. Is an early times reporters
monitoring it up in Sacramento. But if it's like yesterday,
then about five thirty or six tonight we're going to
hear the news. And you know, the betting is the
expectation is the news will be bad for Lyle and
then Mark errges as they say, well, we'll go to
(10:52):
work coming up with that attempt to get them a
new trial.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Royal Oaks, ABC News legal analysts is with us.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
We're gonna let him go.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
One second, but really quickly, you mentioned very gross garatgos.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Sorry, it's an easy slip. AnyWho you.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
I don't think you should be allowed to say Katie
Porter's name because that could come out wrong to me.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yes, indeed, But my thought was, as you were portraying
him as a hypothetical, what he might say you threw
in remorse. Do have you seen, legally anybody bring up
cases where they've showed remorse, because I have not. I
have not seen any remorse that I personally would consider remorse.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
Well, remorse is in a sense super easy to express.
All you have to do is say to your lawyer,
are you saying that it will increase my chances for freedom?
If I just said, am really really sorry? Okay, then
that's what I am. So that's easy to do, but
you have to back it up with actions. And of
course you know, the family members point out they've done
a bunch of great things meditation, gardens, and also it's
(12:02):
the counseling. But it's yeah, remorse is kind of easy.
But that's why they have experts to try to figure
out if if you're faking it or not. And that's
why they're a psychiatrists to assess the risk levels. I mean,
if it's a high risk level, less than one percent
of people are bumped out. I'm not sure why anybody
with a high risk level of violence after release would
get released. But if you're ninety three years old, and
(12:24):
you know, maybe you're going to crush somebody's garden or something.
That's not a big deal, but yeah, risk and remorse
and rehabilitation of the three big factors.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
For those playing the home game.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Remember, if you kill mom and dad by shooting them
in the face, make a meditation garden. Royal Oaks, abcdu's
legal analyst in Los Angeles, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Roy Ill appreciate your time. As always. You're bad up
a good weekend you as well, sir.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Have Friday to you.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Nil Sebag just sitting in for Mark Thompson who was
sitting in for like, how deep do I have to go?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
So I just keep going, Yeah, don't give me those
pity laughs. Well, I'm not happy with you right now.
I'm not happy with you. What did I do? You
missed a car chase? We covered car chases here. I
did not.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Are you talking on all the televisions? Yeah, you missed it.
That's what we do here.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Was it a big one?
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I mean it wasn't long. I did not know.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, And and now because of that our listeners didn't
know amateur around here.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Oh, let's just go home, you know, you know what.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
Just it's Michael Monks sitting in for Nil Savager, sitting
in for Mark Thompson, sitting in for Tim cutting you.
Speaker 11 (13:44):
It's Michael Kroser filling in for Michael Munks, filling in
for Nils, filling.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
For Sharon Belly, killing in for Michael Kroser, who's in
for Michael Monks, who's in for Nil Savager, who's in
for Mark Thompson, who's in for Tim Conway Jr.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Robin just not.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Talk much, thank you, My goodness. Tiffany Hobb's gonna come in.
Tiffany's coming in from O Kelly.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Who's in for Tiany's in for Chris Merrill, who's in.
Speaker 10 (14:11):
Form I see it's vacation season at KFI.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I haven't been in this many people since high school.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Whoa kid?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And that is the voice, Uh, you know, in case
people don't listen every second, don't.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Exactly let them know. Uh, the the KFI News.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Team, Michael Monks with us right now. A lot going
on in downtown LA, A new residential What is this
like a survey?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, the Downtown Residents Association.
Speaker 10 (14:44):
This is a group that has formed because they did
not feel like there was enough voice for the people
who live downtown to speak to city officials and business
leaders and the movers and shakers about what that means
existence in downtown LA. And and I finally trying to
draw some attention to the very serious problems that are
going on down there. So they commissioned a survey. They
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got over seven hundred responses, And I don't know if
you'll be surprised at what type of issues top the
list of concerns. So what did top the lists? I'm
going to pretend like I couldn't guess them much. Honestly,
if you were to throw that question out to just
the general public who are listening to us across southern California, LA,
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Orange Counties, all of that, Ventura County, San Bernardino County,
they might talk about crime, and that's true. That's also
there are various criminal issues that are at the top,
but not the very top. The very top of this
list are the folks who are walking around having what
have been classified as acute public mental health crises and episodes.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Are those the ones that lean at the waist the
fiftyfold all that in reference to fentanyl. Yeah, but they
stand up and they stand they fold.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
So there's that.
Speaker 10 (15:58):
There are the people who are clearly either out of
their minds or on some sort of substance, who are
just screaming at the top of their lungs, or they're
completely disrobed, or they're standing in the middle of traffic.
They're fighting the air, punching it. Well, let's be honest.
Though the air sometimes get a little bit. It's got
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an attitude problem. Yeah, it needs an adjustment every now
and then. Thick and the air smells bad, often because
of public urination and defecation. Also on the list.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Because I lived maybe seven minutes away from you. Yeah,
have you ever called city hall and said something and
have them go, sir or ma'am.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It is not illegal. It's not against a law to
be homeless.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
And you say, but what about peeing and pooping all
over the place.
Speaker 10 (16:50):
That's really the key issue meal because it's not illegal
to be homeless, but technically it is illegal to sleep
on the sidewalk, and it is illegal to block traffic,
and it is illegal to do drugs on this sidewalk.
And that was The purpose of this survey was to
have some ammunition for this group that has formed. They're
a couple of years old now that they want to
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draw attention to the issues, not just the fact that
they exist. Everyone knows they exist, but that there are
people who are impacted by it, and not only the
people who are living down there, but the people you
live seven minutes away, but your neighbors in your neighborhood
who might have considered coming seven minutes down and having
dinner might change their minds. Oh well, don't get me wrong,
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I'm seven minutes away from downtown.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I still have the home. You don't live in LA
I know that. I know that is not There is
not a separation in the issue. It may be a
little bit more concentrated, but absolutely in my neck of
the woods. I'm on the eastern side of Los Angeles.
So yeah, yeah, we have plenty of issues.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
No question it is.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
It does seem to be more consolidated in the downtown
neighbor the geographical boundaries that constitutes downtown LA. I live
in the fashion district adjacent to skid Row. I see
it right around my own block all the time. I
have called the police once and City Hall once, not
in my capacity as reporter, but just as a resident.
Usually I just don't because I do work here and
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it feels weird to call and complain. But I saw
a fight that was pretty scary involving some people that
looked like they were out of their minds, and the
police didn't come. And the other time was I called
because suddenly homeless tent showed up on my block for
the first time and surrounded the block in an instant,
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and I'm like, it's actually, you know, hard to drive
out of the parking lot because your view is obscured
and that's dangerous. You can't walk on the sidewalks anymore.
They have tried to come down and clean this up,
and it immediately re emerges.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Immediately.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They start in our block some time ago when it
was really bad during the pandemic, and and you got
to nip that pretty quickly. See the beds going down
and the lean tos and all of that. Yeah, and
I have you seen if it is I say that
it's feral humans and it is not compassion to leave
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them out there in their own filth. Has that changed,
because I don't find it to be without compassion to say,
you know what, they can't live in their own filth
like animals.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
That's the argument that you often hear about homelessness at
the highest level of government, even from I heard a
councilman Monic Rodriguez on your live show last weekend. As
she's a friend of yours, she has raised the most
questions at city Hall about the way homeless funds are spent.
She's not somebody who wants to grab homeless people by
the scruff of their necks and throw them in some
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other gutters somewhere, but does say, you know, we need
to be more responsible with our money. There are folks
who vote against other council members who say we can't
allow sleeping on this that or these streets. Those she's
come up in city all every so often very specific
to very specific districts, and you have council members who
vote against that. You have council members who vote against
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removing the RVs because that's people's homes. But like you're saying,
there are other folks like that's not compassionate. It's dangerous
to allow people to live in those conditions. And if
you force people's hands, if you forced the movement of
those folks, you would see more rapid development.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I think of shelter and what's the weakest fit.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You're giving them the weakest length, and you're almost forcing
them on the streets because you're not. The money that
they have is so millions, and you're right. Councilwoman Monica
Rodriguez of the seventh District has been the voice when
it comes to this stuff, saying where's the money?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, and she was shot down.
Speaker 10 (20:50):
She's not gotten a lot of allies to support her
in that effort because there are folks who believe that
because the homeless population has dropped according to numbers created
by the same people that are supposed to be providing
these services, it's dropped very modestly. They say, we're on
the right track, so let's not disrupt it too much.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
What they don't tell you is that you have thousands
that are dying on the streets and that's why it's
going down, not because people are being helped. Nobody says that,
but except us, we're saying it. Michael Monks, nice.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
To see you. Everybody where they can hear you. This weekend.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
You know what, I'm preempted by the chargers this weekend yeah,
and I think you are too. Thirty minutes. You got
thirty minutes the last, the last thirty of this. That's
all I need.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Why don't you come up? What you you know? What
you Tiffany and I.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Should do the show thirty minutes with the Saturday Yeah,
well just it's ten minutes each.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, we'll do that. Oh I have I have two
to four to thirty. I think i'll share. Nice, let's
do it. I like that, all right, my friend.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
So you know I'll be back the next Saturday and you
can hear me every Saturday night seven. We've got a
great line up on Saturdays, don't we.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's fun.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
I have a good time on the weekend. It's proud
to be a part of it. Absolutely. Hey, thanks for
having me on this. I don't even know what show
I'm on at this point.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
No, nor do I. Oh, that's Crozier. This is Conway.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Oh you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Happy to be with you, and we'll be with you
again tomorrow. Although we're preempted the last thirty minutes of
the show for the Chargers in the pregame there, so
we will hand everything over at four thirty, but from
two to four thirty I'll be live tomorrow and so
join me there. And of course you got Tiffany Hobbs
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tonight in four mister mo Kelly, who I think is
on vacation, living the life, living the life, all right,
Cracker Barrel. Don't hear a lot about Cracker Barrel in
the news. Not a lot newsworthy, I suppose. But I
am a little frustrated that everything becomes conservative or liberal
or political when there's change. If you haven't heard, Cracker
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Barrel is putting a lot of money I think, like
seventy million or something like that into redoing, redoing their
insides and the vibe, redoing their logo. Now, I come
from a marketing background, logos design, and have done all
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kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
In this area.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I will tell you it is even though people will
see through a conservative event or a political v e
vent I have or bent. Rather, I've learned that people
don't listen with their ears anymore. They listen with their bias.
They listen with their bent, and they listen with their triggers.
(23:45):
Just too bad. I miss good old rational days, just
being rational. So when it comes to food being your
friendly neighborhood for reporter, I know a thing or two
about food. I've talked to many restaurant tours. I have
talked many chefs. I've talked to designers that design layouts
for restaurants and bars all the time.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
And I will tell.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You when you are making changes, it hits people viscerally.
And I'll tell you why food is comfort. When you
talk to a chef and they talk about, you know,
the foods they're making. Oh, I'm designing this and I'm
putting this together, and you ask them, well, you know,
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what's your comfort?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It's like mac and cheese.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Why because mom, dad, Auntie whatever, Maybe mac and cheese
when I was a kid. We go back to things
that make us feel a certain way. People aren't a
fan of change to begin with. Is the logo offensive?
No little boring little simple looks very corporate y. I
guess the charm of Cracker Barrel and their food to
(24:56):
me has gone down a little bit in quality. But
the charmed to me was that it was homie. It
had the little country store in front with weird stuff
in it, fun things, holiday things. The food was comfort food.
Your potatoes, your rolls, your cheese and butter and all
of these things, and the vibe looked like you were
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kind of in someone's house sort of. The video and
photos that I've seen of the changes on the inside
don't interest me. They seem cold and separate. It seems
it's not homie, it's not warm. It doesn't seem to
have anything that would appeal to me for this type
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of food, that comfort food. As far as the logo goes,
like I said, it's not like it's offensive in any way.
I think one of the things that bums people out
is the removal of a particular character. They called him
Uncle Herschel, and he actually goes back. He's been front
and center on the logo for a long time, sitting
on the chair next to the barrel, because literally it's
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named after the way crackers used to come in barrels,
and that was a you know, a big part of it.
In changing those things, you got to have good reason
for it, and you have the new the CEO, I
(26:25):
think she came in sometime in twenty three, CEO, Julie
fels Messino. She described the chain as not as relevant
as we once were, and she announced plans to update
its down home menu. She says, you know, some people
(26:51):
call it woke. I don't think it's woke. I think
companies change things. It's just the way companies do. They're
trying to stay fresh, exciting and interesting in life. However,
you've got now them losing a million dollars in value
as their stock plunges after the new logo release.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
How does that help a brand? Now? If it's political,
that's asinine to me. That it's not. It's you know.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
If they if the new CEO has a particular political
bent and a way of seeing things, Yeah, that's going
to permeate, just like anybody does, I suppose. But if
they're trying to refresh something, to me, they're doing it wrong.
If the home, if the whole feel of it was
supposed to be homeie, you know, you have to hit
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those notes. I didn't see anything from somebody who visits
a lot of restaurants and does an entire three hour
show on weekends to remind you to visit restaurants. I
didn't see anything that made me want to go there more.
The the makeover of the room, the actual layout of
the dining room.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Booh, it's too bright.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
The warmth, the fireplace, even if it's not on the
feel of it, the cast iron, the pots and pans,
the wood that those are things that drew me into
Cracker Barrel as a place that feels kind of homey,
even the way things were served, and playing that little
pin game or whatever with the golf teas or whatever
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in there, the little puzzle stuff like that made it
homey and feel like that.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
And if they take that away, I doubt it will work.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So watching their shares fall and them still coming out
with saying it's been mostly positive, that seems like crap too,
So I guess we'll keep our eyes peeled to see
what continues to happen with that Cracker Barrel.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Watch twenty twenty five.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
He's ooting the boot doing whatever? What does he do?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Like?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
What is he? Is he on vacation or something?
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
He is.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Like I feel like.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
If I handed things over to Crow and I walked
two minutes or whatever to his house from the studio
here and knocked on the door, he'd be in his
underwear watching TV.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
Well, he did mention last week on Friday. That day
he was going to spend the week with Steffus at
the hospital.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Okay, I see what you're doing. You're trying to make
me feel bad.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
He took his vacation to be with Steph, just saying
he's a good man.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Do you feel bad because I think this is crap?
I think I fail.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I'm sorry, you know, just you can't sit in on
his show and then call him out.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's such a good bad if that is what he's doing.
I think that's actually wonderful. That is really beautiful. Could
you imagine Foush showing the wound? Tim go away. He
don't look like a type of guy who wants to
look at a wound.
Speaker 11 (30:03):
I can imagine why you could handle it. I can
imagine my tuesdays. STEP's like, oh my god, still here.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
You know how many times every time he goes beepoop
in there, He's like, He's like, now it's the machine
heart reaching.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
Are you feeling God blessed? Feeling?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Nothing better, by the way than hearing professional newspeoples and
the foosh?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It was the best thing ever.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
No.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Tim played on Loop Rick Chambers saying and the fush
was pulled from the burning car.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Oh my god, I love that one. The fush was
That's like a line in a Stephen King novel. The
foosh was dragged from the burning car before the cat
that rose from the dead came and looked eyes into
the living car, and the clown laughed hysterically. All right there,
you have you seen the video of that wing nut
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in Pasadena. He's there at a concert. I don't know
this band, by the way, Rufus du Soul. Is that
what it is?
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I think ye're Brazilian.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I don't know. No, they're Australian.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Same thing.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, there are alternative dance band. So with a bunch
of people dancing like you know what, that's alternative dance band.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Sure, why not?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Elaine is out there on the dance floor from Seinfeld.
That's an alternative dance if I've ever seen one. So
this wingnut Julio Cesar Lopez Zavala twenty three tons of
videos of him beating the crap out of a woman
in the seats. Now, apparently this all took place at
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twelve h the section there at the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
She I heard two different things.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I heard her fiance or a guy spilled the drink
and apologized, and this guy came back and hit her.
Now I'm reading that she spilled the drink on the
man in front of her, apologized, he seemed to say
that it was, you know, on purpose, and then left
for thirty minutes and then came back threatened violence. She
(32:16):
tried to calm the situation down, apologize to the guy,
and the next thing she remembers she woke up and.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
She's in a medical tent. She missed the entire show.
But the crazy thing is.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
If you've seen this video, a woman comes up and
grabs him by the pants. I don't know if that's
his date or somebody grabshi by the pants and almost
pulls him down to stop him. But he is ferocious,
like an untamed pit bull, just going after this woman,
hitting her, beating her in that amongst the head and face,
(32:54):
and she gets knocked out. Apparently the woman declined for
their treatment and transportation to the hospital, said a city spokesperson.
But it's pretty brutal. Well, they found the guy and
he's arrested and we're going to find out what's going
He can't do this stuff anymore. You know, if you're
sitting in a seat that you know where you are
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and the person in front of you. They can find
out what that seat number is and who bought the
tickets and track it down pretty easy. Not to mention
that there's video of it. But the most the most
painful thing any one person can be a wing nut
is the lack of defense. I'm gonna say it by
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any man in the area, Like I didn't see someone
that just jumped over her and protected her or got
this guy in a chokehold or anything. And I'm not
saying I'm going to jump over three chairs to be
a hero.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I'm I'd want if I was with my wife and
my on, I'd want them to be protected. But I
can't watch somebody be pummeled in front of me, especially
a man pummeling a woman in a case like that,
and do nothing about it. I mean, Krozer, would you,
how would you react to that? If you could, if
you could know that you're who you were with, your
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people were safe.
Speaker 11 (34:22):
I I brought this up earlier to the mark early
this week, but just last week, my wife and I
were walking through our neighborhood and we saw a guy
basically beating up his kid, and I.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
His the mother of the kid.
Speaker 11 (34:35):
Apparently we were walking by the car and they kind
of went at it, and I pulled out my phone
and I went to take a picture, because you're, like
you say, you know you're in this situation. You're really
quickly trying.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
To You're going, do I need evidence? Do I need
what do I You.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Know, right, you're trying to assess does the guy I
have a weapon or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
You know, how much are you how much do you
get involved?
Speaker 11 (34:54):
So she saw me pull out my phone and she
instantly tried to stop me, saying, oh, he's got he's
got autism, and dad, I was just trying to get
him from hurting himself, I.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Said, with blows to the head.
Speaker 11 (35:03):
And I said, I said, you got nothing to worry
about to the lady, and I took a picture. And
then the guy turns to me and he just starts
just verbally just coming at me, and then he physically
starts coming at me. I put my hand on it,
and I said, you don't want to do this, man,
you don't want to do this, and that he just
kept mf and me and and the whole time I
was still walking away with my wife and you're constantly assessing,
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you know.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Where he's not.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
For one, Yeah, that's a little different because in an
enclosed arena, yeah, they've been screened.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
Yeah, they shouldn't have a weapon on him, right right,
It could happen, but you have to still have to assess.
But on the street it's a little different. Yeah, there's
a lot more to you know.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
And we also talked about how the Sharis law from
from the girl that was killed down at prin Nevada,
that created because one of the two guys that was
involved in it wasn't ever even charged most as convicted
of anything, but they created laws based on that that
basically require there's people to act in some way if
they're seeing something happening, you know something.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
If you can't do anything, you can look at somebody
and say, hey, I'm listening to a police scanner and
I heard a call come in for this location. Just
letting you know, man, at least, yeah, for nothing else,
it will make them stop.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Isn't it also a good idea if like you know,
it's always asking the man to step up, but if
like a bunch of men together intervene, you're yeah, so
you're not doing it yourself that you've got this group together.
Speaker 11 (36:37):
And you would hope that in a situation like that,
if one person had stepped forward, that would have caused
others to come forward. Everybody's waiting for that one first person.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I I have.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know, it was a different time back then, but
I was with somebody back in the day who was
married to someone that worked here, but he was not there.
We're at a restaurant and this there these two guys.
I kept hitting on her and saying things, and she's
getting ncomfortable, and I said, hey, knock it off. You
can see she's got a ring, she's married. Leave her alone.
(37:09):
And one guy got mouthy, so I got up to
deal with him and say, I'm not going to tell
you again, and then his friends started to stand up,
and I I briefly told him why that would be
a bad idea and.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Dealt with this guy.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
And the minute other guys see you do that, that's
when they tend to start coming in and again. Yeah, so,
but I'm a fairly big guy.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
So and you've been trained to, you know, take care
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I don't say something if I don't meet it and
mean it. And I'm not trying to play the big
tough guy. I prefer to not have to deal with that.
But I do notice that once someone steps up, others
get in there to help. Usually yeah, because they're like, yeah,
this is probably what we should be doing, but it
is hard. I want to come home to my wife
and my son. Yes, you know, but to call the cops.
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There's also an app by the way that you can
get that has a scanner on it. And I will
tell you this. You put that scanner on full blast
and you put it in your back pocket and they
hear police talk.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
It shuts people up very quickly. It does.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
They don't know if you've got a radio on you
and you're a cop, they don't know. But there's an app,
and I've done this with homeless people in my area.
I put that app on, I put it on my
phone in full blast, I put in my back pocket
and I asked them, are they okay? Do you need
any help? And they mosey along, No fights, no problems.
(38:43):
Tips to deal with your neighbors from Neil Savedra. All right,
Neil Savedra in for Tim Conway. Jun you're a very
special guest coming up that I want you to meet
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