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March 6, 2025 35 mins
Guest: Chief Eric Parra on the Huntington Beach PD on the HBPD Awards/ Gov. Gavin Newsom on transgender athletes 'Issue of fairness'. // Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family Theme Song/ Retail Theft Bust as L.A. task force recovers $4M worth of goods from Target, Macy's, and more // Guest: Sandy Speers, Biologist and executive director of Friends of Big Bear Valley Hatched (Bald Eagles Jackie and Shadow welcome two new eaglets). 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI Am sixty and you're listening to the Conway
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio apps. I The Huntington
Beach Police Department is going to have their annual awards
where they award certificates of bravery and thankfulness to the
police officers who have gone out of their way to

(00:22):
help people risking their own lives. And they've run out
of MC's so they've asked me to do it.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
But the chief is with us, Chief Eric par with
the long Ovan. Sorry, Huntington Beach Police Department.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hey's with us. Chief. How are you, sir? Doing good?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Tim?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
How are you, ah doing excellent? Thanks man. It's going
to be a great event in Huntington Beach.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
It should be nice. It should be great. Yes, thank
you for doing this.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Ah yeah, how come you chose me to do it? Well,
there's no better radio host in the world you and
we love having you down here a honeycon Beach, America's beach.
Yeah that's true, that is true. Oh yeah, all right,
we'll try to hook back up with them, all right.
Governor Newsom is getting some flack and I don't get it.

(01:17):
They're saying that Governor Newsom on his brand new podcast,
which I believe he's only an episode or too old,
has said something that a lot of Democrats disagree with.
So first of all, let's hear the backlash, and then
i'll play you the clip that he's under fire for.

(01:37):
Here is the backlash for Governor Newsom, and then I'll
play you the clip. And I think that's overblown. Here,
I'm back here in California.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Knew at noon Governor Gavin Newsom facing backlash over comments
made on his new podcast. The debut episode feature Charlie Kirk,
who leads a conservative organization called Turning Point USA. During
the seventy five minute conversation, the governor suggested Democrats were
in the wrong by allowing transgender athletes to participate in

(02:06):
female sports. Well, California's legislative LGBTQ Caucus blasted the governor's comments,
writing in a statement, quote, sometimes Gavin Newsom goes for
the profile and courage, sometimes not. He woke up or
we woke up profoundly sickened and frustrated by these remarks. Well,

(02:26):
the governor says his new podcast going to focus on
frank conversations with Republicans as well as members of his
own party. We're going to have much more on this
story coming up on CBS thirteen News at five o'clock.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, okay, So that was before we get to the
chief here. That was the comment, and now this was
the Newsom's comment that got them so frustrated. And I
don't think that it's I think he sort of split
the difference.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
You right now should come out and be like, you
know what, the young man who's about to win the
state champions.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
This as Charlie Cook talking to Governor Newsom.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Who's about to win the state championship in the long
jump in female sports. That's that that shouldn't happen. You,
as the governor should step out and say.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, no, And I appreciate, and.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
But like, would you do something like that, would you
say no men in female sports?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely
agree with you on that. So that's easy to call
out the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and
a grace. You know that that these poor people are
more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and
the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is
an issue that I have a hard time with as well.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Okay, so I think I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, he's trying to figure this out, and so
I don't know. I guess the podcast is getting huge numbers.
Oh all right, the chief of police in Huntington Beach
and they're gonna have their award show I think next
week from today, next Thursday, and the chief is with us,
Chief Eric Parr.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
How are you, sir?

Speaker 6 (03:52):
How are you, sir? I am so excited to be
talking to you. Number one fan and I appreciate all
of you for law enforcement, So God bless you well.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I thank you, sir.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I watched I'm a big fan of Huntington Beach. I
love the parade there, you know, every July fourth, And
I love that you grew up in the area, you know,
and this position, you know, was opened up and you
were looking for a job and they selected the top
guy there.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think that's a great story.

Speaker 6 (04:23):
It's for me, it's a dream come true. As I
met you with back when when I was working in
the Sheriff's department. I was twenty two years there and
you came and you did so many good things for us,
and it was so helpful and so amazing the way
you give your time away a second time. Then I
went to Alhambra for a short for three years, and

(04:43):
Huntington Beachcamp came up. I'm sorry, my voice was dead
here yesterday. I came back. So when the opportunity rose,
I couldn't say no, and I put into the job
and I got it. And it's been a dream come
true for me to be able to work and live
in my community and to be able to actually look
at law enforcement issues. And the guys may not like
this sometimes, but but I tell them to fix a problem,

(05:05):
and I'll drive by on the way home and I'll
see if it's fixed. And if it's not, there's you know,
there might be some problems. There might be some hell
to pay.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
It's such a I take so much pride and so
much satisfaction deal being able to serve the community of
Huntington Beach. I cannot even describe it to you.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, well, I appreciate the compliments, but I'm not doing
anything compared to what you guys do on a daily basis.
I've always said that firemen and police officers, whether you're
deputies or or you work in the hunting To Beach
or LAPD that you guys, earn your pension every single day.
Every dime of your pension is earned every single day.

(05:41):
The moment you put that badge on, you put that
vest on, and you drive around to try to help
people out and and uh and make the playing field level.
That's the work that only a few can do. And
I don't think anybody does it better than Huntington Beach.
There are some spectacular officers there and by the way,
and they can unity in Huntington Beach supports them. And

(06:02):
I saw that firsthand when I was in Huntingdon Beach
at a restaurant and a police officer came in. People
stood up and applauded him and knew his name and
thanked him.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yes. And they do that all the time, especially if
people always ask ask me, well, how is it working
in your community? These there problems you know, the police
see that don't like you. There's always that that can occur.
It normally does not with me. But when I walk around,
even off duty, and I walk into a restaurant, the
manager comes up and says, say, Hi, Hi, it's great
to meet you. Blah blah, blah, and we have and
I have conversation with him or her about issues they're having,

(06:35):
and I'm able to solve problems twenty four to seven.
It works out so well. And I have the most
dedicated officers in the world and they understand it every
time when I interview them. The first question I asked
him is tell me why you want to work in
Huntington Beach. I don't want just a police officer. I
want a police officer that wants to work in Huntington
Beach and they understand that the community support is what
enables them to do their job. And I got to

(06:56):
tell you we are one hundred percent committed.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, and I and I've also seen it when you
guys were doing it was July fourth, a couple of
years ago, and some knuckleheads came in from out of
the city and they started making some mischief.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Man, you guys step to that quick.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Well. Our stance is zero tolerance for indy criminal activity,
and particularly at large events. And I've seen too many
times over my long career that anytime you let an
event again steam and you have the opportunities to crowler
at the beginning, but you don't. You always regret that.
So my stances were prepared. We train, and we go

(07:38):
in quickly. We don't rush in, but we go in quickly.
We're not going to allow people to loot. We're not
going to allow people to engage in criminal activity and
just do it unchecked. We're going to go in there
and solve the problem. And the community loves it. Our
council supports us tremendously. In fact, we have a great
counselor that does that, and they want us to get
out there and be proactive and we do.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
And not only do they support Huntington Beach Brank and file,
but they also support Huntington Beach with the level of
brand new and sophisticated equipment that you guys have as well.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
Yes, when we have we have so much good equipment.
And I don't like you law enforcement. There's a ton
of technology out there, but we have great drones. We're
putting up a real time crime center. We have a
virtual net around our city at cameras and those information
allows our officers to respond to a scene and have

(08:30):
so much information at their fingertips. Our council supports us
as having three helicopters for Huntington Beach, which is amazing
because our officers and the responding to calls, they know
they have a safety net over them, and they have
that ability to that that helicopter is going to see
things before them. If they get in a pursuit, we're
able to back out and let the helicopter follow them.
So we want to put the public of danger and

(08:51):
it works so well for us. But what you what
you touched on was the support and we have that
so I'm so grateful for it. As the chief, I
couldn't be have.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I'm going to be down there next Thursday. It is Thursday,
I think, right the thirteenth, for the big event, and
I'm not going to miss make You know, there's two
people in life that Doug Seckler used to say, There's
non learners and slow learners. And I like to think
of myself as a slow learn as opposed a non learner.
But last time I m seed one of these events
for Huntington Beach, I said, Wow, if all the great

(09:23):
cops are in this room, that means all the horrible
ones are on the street. And that and that got
back and some and some officers said, hey, that went
over the radio, good luck trying to get to the
four oh five.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Everybody took note of that, but they understood that it
was funny. At the moment, everybody knows support of law enforcement.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
There's nobody supports law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
You're the best.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
So you're going to be there next week to help
present all these awards.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Of course I'm going to be there, and it's my
hon to be there. And once you you know, you
end up. You read what they've done, sure, and it
is it's just for me. It's the most fulfilling in
the world because I've hired most of the patrol officers
they are the newer ones. In the last three years,
I've hired at least sixty of them. And when I
see them go from being a new hire to learning

(10:18):
the job, to then excelling at the job and receiving
a recognition for it, there's nothing better for me than
that and my job at support them fully and I
will I will never fail on that commitment.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's like having you know, kids leave the house and
do a great job and make you, you know, proud.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's terrific.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Correct And if anybody goes go sideways, I correct that
quickly also so they know that, you know, we always
here the policy, I always heared a lot. But I
want them to go out love their jobs. And I
tell them this all the time. I want you to
wake up in the morning and think I'm going to
work and not have to be negative, and want to
go to work. And when you leave, I want you
to think I did something productive today and I did

(10:55):
something meaningful. And that's what I instill in them, and
they they teach more than I could ever see them.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I can't wait to get down there and and see
and meet these brave men and women next week.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Looking forward to seeing you. Thanks for popping on with us.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Thank you, sir. Always available for you anytime the night.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, Thanks Chief, all right, stay safe out there.
That's great man. That guy's great. Chief Eric Para born
born and raised right there in Huntington Beach. The job
opened up as he was leaving the Sheriff's department. He
applied for it, he got the job, and now he's
the chief of police in this small, beautiful little town
that he grew up in. How great is that?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
All Right? We're live on kfive.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
We're watching this Jackie and Shadow, these two eagles up
there who've had two babies. We're waiting on the third egg.
I don't know if that's gonna hatch or not. It's
been pipping, it's been pipping. Yeah, today was pipping.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Triplets. They're gonna have a cold night though. They got
snow all over them. They just sit there and look
like they're paralyzed.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
The other issue, too, is the two that are that
were worn was Tuesday are already much bigger and stronger. Yeah,
and that new one's got to fight them for food.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I bet, And I just hope and pray every
day that we don't see real nature. You know, where
a mountain lion goes up there and wipes everybody out.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
Was it last year, a couple of years ago, Yeah,
there was some some predators came and took the little
babies away.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. I hope we don't.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And you know, because you get a mountain lion up there,
and I think it could be turned into a sizzler,
you know, buffet.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Bar or any other birds predatory, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Right, exactly wipe them out. So hope that doesn't happen. Man,
hope that doesn't happen. And kids don't see that live
on TV.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
That's watching I can.

Speaker 9 (12:38):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It started with the Brady Bunch at I think eight,
and then Partridge Family at eight thirty on a Friday
by if my memory serves me right, and then you
had six million Dollar Man come on. That was always cool.
Oh yeah, Tuesday was great too. It was Happy Days.
Then Laverne and Shirley. Oh my god, and I knew.

(13:06):
I think it was Friday, and I have to look
this up. I think Friday. It all started with the
Brady Bunch. And when I heard that theme song in
wherever you were in the house, you'd run down stairs
in the living room to watch the colored TV and
watch the Brady Bunch, and then Laverne and Shirley. So
this will take you back to the nineteen seventies. If

(13:28):
you're my age or I don't know around my age,
every I think it was either Thursday or Friday night.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
This is what you heard at eight o'clock. Yes, in
living color, the Brady Bunch. Then here we go the story.

Speaker 10 (13:47):
A lovely lady was very lovely girl, all of them
at air of roll, kind of red the youngest one.
This story a man named Brady who was busy with
three boys of his own. They were four men, they

(14:11):
all together, they were all just a little one, this fellow,
and they knew it.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was much more.

Speaker 10 (14:22):
Than that, this group, former family way.

Speaker 11 (14:28):
They all became the Brady Bunch.

Speaker 10 (14:30):
The Brady Rains, the Way Game.

Speaker 8 (14:42):
I'm always fascinated by a lot of those shows back
then because the first season always had a different version
of that theme song than the second season on.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, that was the first season. Yeah, yeah, Happy Days
was the same way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
They little changes, tiny little changes, and that was a
better time. There wasn't as much crime.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Who am I kidding?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
There's a lot of crime in the seventies, but it
seems like there's a lot now. There's a retail theft
bust LA Task Force recovered four million dollars worth of
goods stolen from Target and Macy's.

Speaker 12 (15:16):
The La County Sheriff's departments organized Retail Crimes Task Force,
announcing a major bust. The department says it recovered about
four million dollars worth of goods stolen from Target, all
to Beauty, Nordstrom, and Macy's, just.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
To name a few stores.

Speaker 12 (15:30):
In February, detectives worked with retailers to go after organized
shoplifters and people selling the products. Detectives served search warrants
in multiple locations. Seven suspects were arrested and now faced
retail and grand theft charge.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
It there you go.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I see it all the time. I see people stealing
all the time, and these stores they could stop that
if they wanted to. I think Costco does a good job.
You got to show your ID when you get in, now, yeah,
and then you got to show your receipt when you leave.
You cannot go in there with that, oh man, correct, Yeah,
you have to. And they look at that photo now,

(16:07):
Like I said, I got busted when I was using
my dad's by accident.

Speaker 8 (16:10):
Yeah that happened to somebody right in front of us,
like last week. They said, oh no, no, yeah I was.

Speaker 12 (16:15):
I was.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I scanned it. They're like yeah, okay, go ahead, and
then two steps in and they're like no, no, no, no, no, sir, sir, sir,
I don't think that's you. Oh that's my dad. Sorry.

Speaker 11 (16:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I saw a guy getting stopped and said, no, that's
not your card, dude, you're out here.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Split split see splitzy.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
Embarrassing is that you get you can do that one
eighty walk back to your car.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oh yeah, right, and and you feel like a schmuck,
unless it's just a mix up, but you feel like,
you know, you don't belong.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
People looking at you like, uh, you just left Costco
and your hands are empty.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I don't know what it is about Costco. I get
a rush when I when I go there. I think
a lot of people do you know? You go to Costco?
You know, hey, what's new? And you're going You see
new products, you see all kinds of you know, the
spray stuff is out there, the plants, the soil, you know,
the hoses, lights, decorative outdoor lights. It's a cool deal.
I like that Costco. Man, But a lot of people

(17:11):
are stealing a lot of crap. I'll bet you. I
think it's very hard to steal from Costco. I think,
you know, with all the eyes on you, with the
cameras on you, having a show ID when you get in,
having you show your receipt when you leave, they make
it difficult. I don't know if that helps them out
or not. I'm sure it does. Why else would they
do it? But if they did it at you know,
they give you a cursory. At at Walmart, they're like

(17:33):
they give you a little look see at when you
leave there, but not like Costco.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Costco. Really, you know, make sure that.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Walmart you're not you're not a membership club. You don't
get to look at my at my receipt. Like best
Buy they do that stuff too. Hey can we look
at your rit Nope, I'm good. Thanks right by them
every single time that. Oh you ain't looking at my
receipt unless I pay the membership to be here. Wow,
old school part you look at I own this right now?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah you do? Those people are your bees man, Yeah, exactly,
look at you.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
All right, we'll come back. We'll talk about Jackie and Shadow.
We got somebody who knows. Sandy Spears knows a lot.
She's a biologist, and we'll talk to her about the
friends of Big Bear Valley and these this third egg
that's Pippin' man, it's pippin And so we might have triplets.
I don't know, maybe possible, we'll see. We'll talk to us.
Sandy Spears, we come back, and how do they name

(18:28):
the eagles?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
She knows. We'll talk to her.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
About that, all right, So we'll get to see who
names these eaglets.

Speaker 9 (18:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on de Mayo from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
The two big celebrities in Los Angeles are not at
the Oscars, the Grammys or the Golden Globes. They're up
in Big Bear. Shadow is one of them, and Jackie
is another. They are bald eagles and everybody's looking at
them and hoping that they're fan. Family is safe and
those kids learn how to fly. We're keep an eye

(19:05):
on the third egg is Pippin. I learned that term yesterday.
Pippin busting out of that shell. And we've got somebody
who knows more than we do about the eagles, Sandy Spears,
who's a biologist and executive director of Friends a Big
Bear Valley and Sandy, you got to be on the
moon watching this happen.

Speaker 11 (19:24):
Hunh oh, absolutely, yes.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
I burn the.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Sandy Spears. Hey, so what happened last year? The eggs
never hatched?

Speaker 11 (19:35):
Ton right, the egg They had three eggs, but they
never hatched, And this year it looks like all three
are Does that.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Bum them out? They get all depressed, so they have
to see somebody about that.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
Well, I don't know if they see somebody, but they
definitely get depressed. Shadows stood staring at the eggs for
a long time and not knowing what to do.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
That's heartbreaking. What happened to the eggs? Somebody coming eat
him up?

Speaker 11 (20:02):
Eventually? They well, Ravens I think, got one and they
kind of got broke into the nest and disappeared.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, and so I understand the father who's Shadow in
this instance, that he's not an absentee father. He does
a lot of the sitting on the eggs himself. Is
that true?

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (20:21):
Absolutely yes. He actually fights over and will put sticks
on Jackie to make her have to get up so
he can sneak in behind her and get on the eggs.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's do they fight like any new couple.

Speaker 11 (20:34):
They do have arguments, but they always make up. I've
noticed before nighttime and they will be seen after having
an argument, kind of talking softly and sitting next to
each other on the limb at night.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Are they monogamous?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Whill they stay together their whole life?

Speaker 7 (20:49):
They do?

Speaker 11 (20:50):
In general? Eagles do Jackie actually had a mate before Shadow,
but Shadow is for her love.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I think what happened to Jackie's eggs.

Speaker 11 (21:00):
Shadow came in and wouldn't leave dominant and yes, the
other one kept trying to get in to leave, and
finally he left himself.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, that sounds like my relationship with my wife.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I came in and booted the old guy out. I
know you laughed, but it was an uncomfortable time for me.

Speaker 11 (21:18):
Sandy, I'm sure, I'm sure it was.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Are the babies cold when snow's like this it's freezing up.

Speaker 11 (21:24):
There, Well, the babies could be cold, but Jackie and
Shudder are very good at sitting on top of them,
and their body temperature the adults is one hundred and
five degrees so wow, they're keeping them plenty warm. Oh,
I bet yeah. And the adults are also waterproof, so

(21:44):
they're keeping them dry and protected, you.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Know, because La, you know, is sort of moving this direction.
Are they planning on becoming vegans?

Speaker 11 (21:58):
I don't think that's going to have And.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
What do they eat? Fish and worms?

Speaker 11 (22:03):
They eat Actually they eat off the lake, So they
eat fish and ducks and coots, anything off the lake
for the most part.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh, they'll eat a duck huh, yes, they will. That's
kind of wild, bad day for the duck.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yes, it's worked, and I noticed that the By the way,
if I don't know how close you are, I'm sure
you're instrumental in the you know, the friends of Big
Bear Valley. But whoever put that camera up there, you
got to thank them for us. Man, I get hours
and hours of great entertainment. I show my daughter and
my wife, and I think they did a really great

(22:38):
job putting this all together.

Speaker 11 (22:40):
Thank you very much. Yes, we got that up in
twenty fifteen and it's great to have it.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
And I know it's a lot of work. I at night, though,
is there a light on the eagles?

Speaker 11 (22:52):
It's an infrared light okay, so that eagles nor humans
can see it. Only the camera itself picks up that
infra red light. So the camera lets us see what's
going on, but it's not visible any other way.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
If this was two pigeons like Santa Anita pigeons, would
they would there be the same interest.

Speaker 11 (23:14):
I don't know. That's a very good question. I think
Jackie and Shadow have a personality that catches everybody's attention.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, you don't want.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Two trackbirds up there, you know, two track pigeons, But.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
So these eglts.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
These babies will stick around for ten to fourteen weeks.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Is that the right number?

Speaker 11 (23:34):
Yes, that is the right number. And they grow up
to full size in that time.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
You know, I've noticed that they're even bigger just in
the last couple of days they are.

Speaker 11 (23:43):
Yes, they have to grow very quickly.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And when they finally get old enough to fly, will
they take them down closer to the ground to launch them,
because they got to be fifty sixty seventy feet in
the air right.

Speaker 11 (23:54):
Now, they're actually one hundred and forty five feet in
the air. And no, they they jump off and fly
from a limb in that tree.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh my god. So that first flight has got to
make Jackie crazy.

Speaker 11 (24:09):
She stays away and lets them do it.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Oh god, okay, all right, I like that. And how
many eggs per year can Jackie lay?

Speaker 11 (24:19):
Well, the most she's laid is three and there's only
one nesting season per year.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh I see, okay, all right, So they've got to
be thrilled. Do you see it in their body language
that they're excited.

Speaker 11 (24:32):
Yes, And the way that they're feeding them, they're being
so gentle, so careful and taking really good care.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
And will the baby stay in the area once they
start to flying, well, they.

Speaker 11 (24:45):
Will for a couple months because they have to be
trained how to hunt, how to get their own food,
things like that. And Jackie in Shadow will follow them
around and keep feeding them, and they may come back
to the nest on occasion, but they after they get
feel comfortable that they know what they're doing, they will
usually leave the area.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, And who are their natural enemies? How can this
go south or sideways on us?

Speaker 11 (25:10):
Well, ravens and hawks, other eagles, But Jackie and Shadow
are very good at being aware of and protecting and
chasing away anything like that.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
How can you tell?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I mean, I've tried to look go tweeners between the
legs and see who's who, and I can't tell.

Speaker 11 (25:27):
You can only tell. Jackie is bigger than Shadow, so
she has a bigger beak, bigger ankles, and just taller.
And the Shadow his voice is much higher pitched than Jackie's.
Jackie's is low and loud.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, is that an insult in the eagle world? You
got a big beak?

Speaker 11 (25:46):
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You have power, not by women.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Don't like that when you refer to them as big beaks.
I guess they're okay with And what about the what
is the punishment for killing eagles? I like to get
that out there because I know there's some nuts out there.

Speaker 11 (26:08):
I know it's jail time, it's a huge fee. It's
illegal both in the state. They're endangered in the states,
so there would definitely be jail time. I don't know
exactly what it is. How about the death penalty, Yeah,
good idea of that.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You know, they've done such a great job up in Alaska.
Buddy of mine is affiliated with that show that Deadly
is Catch, and he said they're everywhere in Alaska. They're like,
you know, like those McDonald's birds that fly down and
eat there.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
He said, everywhere you turn in Alaska there's eagles.

Speaker 11 (26:40):
Right, that's true. But but they're still endangered in California.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh, they are okay. And do we know how many
are up in that area? Up in Big Bear?

Speaker 11 (26:48):
Up in Big Bear there, Jackie and Shadow are the
only full ones full time up here. We have others
that visit, especially in winter, but but no, they're the
only full time ones.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
So they must be the biggest celebrities in Big Bear
by far.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
Definitely they are.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yes, Ah, that's so great. I love checking in on them.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I feel like I get nervous though, when it's snowing
and cold and I don't see the babies when they
were pipping. I didn't know that no that term until yesterday.
I get nervous like I'm the dad.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
A lot of people are connected with them in that way.
Jackie and Shadow have a way of just making everybody
feel what they're feeling and seeing what's happening. So I
don't know exactly how they're doing it, but they're amazing.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And how are we gonna name or how are you
going to name the new babies?

Speaker 11 (27:36):
We will have a contest that will have a way
for people to submit names, and then we'll do a
random drawing of thirty or thirty five, and then we
usually have the third grade classes in Big Bear because
they're studying Eagles that year, we have them vote on
the final names to pick which ones they want.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Okay, and how and again, Sandy Spears is with us?
How did you become associated with it? And by the way,
you seem like the most beautiful spokesperson for those eagles
they could ever ask for.

Speaker 11 (28:09):
Well, thank you very much. I've been involved with Friends
of Big Bear Valley since we started in two thousand
and one and right now I'm the executive director and
I love this.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
If anybody wants to donate to that charity, how do
they find it?

Speaker 11 (28:23):
Friends of Big Bear Valley dot org and we have
you can do donations or memberships, and we have lots
of bald eagle merchandise that you can buy. So you
can need a T shirt or something with check in
shadow on it.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's great. Are you going to miss the eaglitz when
they fly? Onne?

Speaker 11 (28:41):
Yes, and usually I cry when when the chick leaves
for the first time.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm with you. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
You know, Sandy, I've become so emotionally attached to this family.

Speaker 11 (28:52):
I know, Yes, I get it. I have been yes, hey,
can you stay?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Can you stay with us?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, all right, sand is with us?

Speaker 9 (29:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
You got to go check out these eagles. If you
haven't seen it, go to YouTube and just type in
big Bear Eagles.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
It'll come up.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
There's live footage of them and everybody's talking about them.
I first noticed that they were hatching when I was
watching Mark Brown on ABC News and they were going
to go to Sports, and Mark Brown looked down and said, no, no,
I think one of these eggs is hatching, and they
blew out like eighty percent of the sports broadcast or

(29:29):
the sports cast to bring you live shots of these eagles,
and it's consuming everybody. It's so great with all the crap,
with all the stealing and the floods and the fire
and the earthquakes and the terrorist attacks and all the
crap that us stupid humans do, to watch these beautiful
eagles in the wild and watch them, you know, give

(29:51):
birth and have these babies. It is the best, man,
It is the best show your kids, and your kids
are going to love this man, all right.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
We're live on KFI A six forty Sam.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
These Spears is with US biologists, executive director of the
Friends of Big Bear Valley, Friends a Big Bear Valley
dot org, Friends of Big Bear Valley dot org. And
buy yourself a shirt or maybe I don't know, throw
a cook bucks or just go look at it.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Your choice.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI.
AM sixty Spears is.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
With US biologists and executive director of Friends of Big
Bear Valley and we're all fascinated by the hatching of
the two babies, and I think a third one on
the way. Sandy, we thank you for sitting through the
commercial break. We realize that, you know, the commercials breaks
on the station are rather long. Are those babies still

(30:44):
in the nest or have they've flown off?

Speaker 11 (30:47):
They're still there?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Okay? And how did you guys find the nest?

Speaker 11 (30:53):
The Forest Service found it. They knew where it was
because sometimes wintering bald eagles here were building nests, and
they discovered a chick. It was the first chick ever
hatched in Big Bear Valley in twenty twelve. And we
believe that was Jackie because then one eagle the right
age and those parents are the only ones that stayed

(31:13):
all summer every year.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh wow, And how old is Jackie and how old
is Shadow?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Do you have any idea?

Speaker 11 (31:19):
We do Jackie because she came to the nest when
she had markings of just turning five. For the first
five years you can tell how old they are. And
so she's thirteen and Shadows, same thing happened with him.
He's the eleven.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh younger man.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yes, kind of studley of Jackie to pull in some
younger feathers right, Yeah, I don't think they used tail,
I think feathers. And how did they get the camera
up there for us to see that? Did they climb
the tree?

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (31:51):
We hired somebody that knows how to design these kind
of cameras because he's done a lot of them in
Catalina Islands and he we have all the electronics and
everything like that is on the ground. Just a cable
runs up the tree and it's, like I said, one
hundred and forty five feet high and they have to

(32:11):
pull themselves up with a rope so that they don't
damage the tree. They cannot do anything that would harm it.
And they have to have a permit for eat working
in eagleness and know how to hook up the electronics
and be able to climb that high. And they're amazing and.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well so they will when these eagleads get bigger, isn't
that nests going to be rather crowded with five eagles,
it will be crowded.

Speaker 11 (32:37):
Usually Jackie in shadow don't always stay there the whole time,
and only one of them spends the night, so it'll
usually be one or the other unless they're both feeding them.
But the nest is over six feet across, so it's
big enough.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
And are they both hunters? They are, yes, they both feed.
They both hunt and then feed the birds.

Speaker 11 (33:00):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Any idea of the third egg? Is it still pippin
or is it busted open yet?

Speaker 11 (33:06):
It hasn't busted open yet, but it's it's stood that
the hole has gotten bigger over the day, so it's
still working on it.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
And and will they come back and visit as adults?
Will they come back and visit Mom and dad?

Speaker 11 (33:21):
They for the first, you know, a couple of months
after they fledged, they will. But after that, when the
Jackie and Shadow started a new nesting season, the other
chicks that have fledged are considered intruders at that point.
Really they won't come back.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh so so if they come back, they could be
attacked by Jackie yours Shadow.

Speaker 11 (33:39):
Yes, they will be chased away.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Got to call the cops on that one. Just going
on with those, it's a domestic up there in Big Bear.
And why are they called bald? Why are they called
bald eagles? Are there different types of eagles?

Speaker 11 (33:53):
There are different types of eagles. There's golden eagles that
we have up here. Also, bald eagles means white. I
think Latin or Old English, but it means white.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I like that as a term as a as an
option to uh, you know, if you call the guy
instead of bald, you, hey, it guy's a white guy.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know, it seems like a little less of an insult.
I really appreciate you coming on, Sandy.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I we'd love to check back with you as these
babies get older.

Speaker 11 (34:22):
That would be great.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Thank you are such.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
A great ambassador for those birds. And I can't imagine
the thrill of waking up every day at how much
work you put into this and watching these kids grow up. Man,
it must be just warms my heart. Must be a
billion times better for you.

Speaker 11 (34:39):
Yes, it is. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
All right, thank you, Sandy. That is great. Sandy Spears.
What a beautiful woman up there helping us all to
look at these birds.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I am a sucker for these birds. These birds are
my kids. So don't touch them and don't hurt them,
you idiots. Rely on caf.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Now you can always

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Hear us live on KFI AM six forty four to
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