A stabbing in “Sleepy Burbank” and a violent home invasion in Studio City left a military veteran seriously injured after being thrown to the ground, breaking both legs. Despite his injuries, he managed to shoot and kill the intruder. Meanwhile, a near catastrophe was narrowly avoided at Los Angeles International Airport when two jets—an ITA Airways flight to Rome and an American Airlines flight to New York—took off from adjacent runways just seconds apart. Air traffic controllers intervened to prevent a mid-air collision, and chilling audio captured the tense exchange as disaster was averted.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KMF.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am sixty and you're listening to the Conway Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Breaking news, or at
least it was a little earlier. And I think it's
breaking because I live a mile and a half from
where this happened, and so to me, it's really breaking.
A stabbing in Burbank, California, sleepy town at Burbank, California.
(00:21):
Johnny Carson used to make fun of it all the time. Yeah,
I remember some great Burbank jokes. Gets hot in Burbank.
One of the jokes was a it's raining, Oh it's
so hot in Burbank. A dog was chasing a cat
and they were both walking.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But anytime something like this happens in Burbank, sleepy town
where nothing really shakes down, you don't get a lot
of stabbings and shootings. And the reason why this unusual.
There was a shooting in Burbank this week over loud music.
Somebody was playing loud music. They were asked to turn
it down. I guess they didn't turn it down enough
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and bang guns come out. Okay, that was Tuesday or
when Tuesday, I think. And now a stabbing in Burbank
near Burbank High School.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
What's going on in Burbank?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The hell police activity here. This is on Third Street
near Tahunga Avenue in Burbank. Burbank PD on scene. We
understand this is about a mile or so down the
street from the Burbank High School. We are trying to
work on getting confirmation from the Burbank Police Department as
far as the stabbing goes. We understand that possibly the
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stabbing stabbing suspects i should say, have been taken into
custody here or We're waiting on word from the Burbank
PD on that, as well as the status of the
person that was stabbed, their condition and where they were
taken to. But at this point we have the police
activity here right next to this large apartment complex here
off a third and to Hunga. That's the latest overhead
of in Sky five.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's crazy. It's getting crazy out there. And then we
had a an intruder in Studio City and a naked
guy's walking around. He's trying to break in or get
into the yard of this woman's house.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
A veteran tries to stop him.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The naked homeless guy body slams the veteran, and the
veteran both of his legs break.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Busted legs, both of them.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He's all twisted up, and he pulls out a gun
and shoots and kills the homeless guy, kills the homeless guy.
And that didn't That didn't happen fourteen thousand miles from here,
or fourteen hundred miles from here. That happened where we
sit right now in Burbank, maybe three miles from where
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we are right now, maybe three miles. It's where the
one oh one and the one seventy meet. That area.
You know, you got the Ernie's Taco's over there, you
got Cactus, that great Mexican restaurant over there. Oh, it's
a beautiful place. That's where it happened. And it's really close.
And every day we do a story of crime in
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Studio City, Sherman Oaks and Sino Tarzana, Woodland Hills, Thousand Oaks,
all those safe areas where people spent a lot of
money and moved into those homes to stay away from
crap like this. That's why you buy an expensive home.
Otherwise you would just get yourself an apartment on Kester
and Sherman Way.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sorry, to the people in Kester and Sherman Way.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I always have to apologize, but that's an intersection that
I used to live nearby, and it's hot. It's hot
lot goes on on Kester and Sherman Way. So let's
get some more information. The crime does not stop in
the San Fernando Valley Blue Korean.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
We're right off the one oh one freeway between Sarah
and Tahungo. What we know so far is that a
man in his late thirties was apparently naked and burglarized
the front unit of a studio city duplex.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
It's right here behind us.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Where those green hedges are and the large pink tree
where you see all of the police cars. The medical
examiner's truck is over there as well. Witnesses are telling
us that early this morning, a woman was screaming for
help as a man was burglarizing her apartment. Her neighbor,
a seventy nine year old man, then confronted the suspect,
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told him he was armed with a gun and warned
him to leave.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
The suspect approaches the male seventy nine year old and
body slams him on the ground. The neighbor, who's seventy
nine years old. Subsequently suffered two broken legs.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But when you're seventy nine two broken legs, it could
be the end, you know, with circulation seventy nine. He's
a war veteran, a veteran of the Armed services, and
now he's got two busted legs at seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That is often a death sentence. It's horrible, horrible.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Subsequently suffered two broken legs. Were at this time in
self defense shoots the suspect three times.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
The man who fired the shots is a Vietnam veteran,
and as you heard, broke both of his legs when
he was slammed to the ground.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
The trespasser was old.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I saw more action in Studio City than he did
in Vietnam, probably during the war. He's he's back in
the Studio City in a very safe area. During they
can just go over there and see some action.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, he's actually during the war.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He's not like Mark Thompson. Mark Thompson always says, you know,
I bet I went to Vietnam, Like, oh Christ, we
were we were there in sixty eight, sixty nine. Yeah,
were you in Saigon? What did you see anything? Because
I went last week oh yeah, then you were in Vietnam.
You went to Vietnam. Weren't in Vietnam. You know, we
like them now they're doing better than we are, cleaner
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and safer.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
The trespasser was ultimately killed by those gunshots.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What a way to go naked early in the morning,
trying to break into some woman's house and a Vietnam
vet takes you out.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
This is how you end up. That's it. Three shots,
bang bang, that's your final chapter. Bang ah, Christ that hurts.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
The trespasser was ultimately killed by those gunshots.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And then you know what they said on the news.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They said, lapd is saying this is possibly self defense. Really,
you're gonna put that Vietnam vet in prison for this
possibly self defense? Little yeah busted both of his legs
and was shot to death. There's not a jury in
the world they would convict this guy. They just be
looking it. You're be looking at and like, why wait here,
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what are we doing here? It's gonna be a fire.
Do we have to go to the jury room for this?
I think we can all just do a hands up
thing there.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Mighty witnesses tell us they heard a woman screaming for help.
Then they saw the alleged intruder naked on the ground.
They also saw the seventy nine year old man injured
and lying on the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Maybe it was an episode of Naked and Unafraid? Is
that the name of that show? Naked and Unafraid?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Unafraid? Is it Naked and Afraid? I think so? Yeah,
Naked and Afraid? No, I think it's Naked and Unafraid?
Isn't it? Is it naked?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You're right?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Is it really afraid?
Speaker 8 (07:12):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Because my wife watches that crazy show all the time.
She's sort of addicted to that. And and deadly is
catch or yeah, deadly is catch? And so I'm constantly,
you know, coming home trying to eat dinner and there's
fifty five year old naked guys on TV for a
half hour, you know, trying to get the you know,
the woman to help him start a fire and catch
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a fish or something.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't know. It's wild show. You know, when and
Afraid you get the show. But if you put in
Naked and Unafraid, you'll just get a ton of stories
about people pretty much doing this.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe this guy was auditioning for Naked and Afraid or Unafraid?
What's the name of that show is it Naked and Afraid. Yeah,
naked and afrase.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I thought it was not.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Unafraid, Naked on the ground.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They also say that's that's another show that you.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Ends doing, naked on the ground.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Naked on the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, it's about a homeless guy trying to break into
a Vietnam Vets.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Joint, naked on the ground, and.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Then the next naked.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
On the ground.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
They also saw the seventy nine year old man injured
and lying on the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, he's busted up, he's all twisted up like a
pretzel and he's gonna I mean, this poor man, seventy
nine years old, he's in Vietnam, and again he saw
more action in Studio City today than perhaps when he
was in Vietnam.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
How about that my roommate, I actually didn't really know
what was going on. I was heading to a workout class.
Next thing I know, and oh god.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Am I I This drives me crazy. LA is the
capital of me, the me? What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She could have just said I was leaving, but she said, no,
I'm leaving, I'm going to my workout class. Everybody always
has to tell you what class they're taking, have they're
running a marathon, what they're drinking, what smoothie they're involved with,
what their favorite juice is, What their favorite new vetgetable is?
The cure cancer? Next trip to arawon right, everybody's well,
you know, I was gonna go work out today's upper body.
(09:08):
So yeah, leg press is there, I got my favorite
nautilist machine is down on Ventura.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Dear call what bat man? We're talking about this?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This guy is oh yeah, christ sorry, all right? What
happened again?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
What is going on?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
I was heading to a workout class.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I was heading to workout class.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Workout class?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Who cares where you're going.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
A little bit about me?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
First, heading to workout class.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
Next thing I know, I was five minutes down the road.
My roommate texted me frantically and was like, oh my gosh,
I hear gunshots.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You might you might miss your workout class.
Speaker 9 (09:40):
Something's happening. I have no idea. I think it's two
guys that got into a fight.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
Their gate was open, so I think he just kind
of walked over there and went into their gate and
she was telling him to get out, go away, please
get out, go away. But he just kept walking towards
the gate. And so that's after I heard her say
that this when like I heard shots fired.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We're told the seventy nine years old man is now
in surgery and is in stable condition. Police tell us
this is probably a good case for self defense.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Probably is that the term they use.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Police tell us, this is probably a good case for
self defense.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, you know what I'm gonna I agree with them.
I agree with them. This is probably a good case
for body slam. Two broken legs, naked, homeless guy on
drugs threatening a woman, and this guy shot him three
times and killed him. Probably, I'm gonna still looking to it.
(10:34):
Probably there's probably a chance.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Police tell us this is probably a good case for
self defense. LAPD is sticking around the scene investigating the
altercation and the shooting. That's the latest from Studio City.
I'm Rachel Menotov.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Hi, Rachel, Thanks. I love the double down of it's
probably a good case.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, there's a merit here. We're still looking at it.
We're interviewing the workout woman. She's gonna come back after
eleven o'clock spin class.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
He's not too sweaty.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We got to get her between spin class and hot yoga,
so we got an hour with her.
Speaker 11 (11:09):
Everybody's always telling you what what they're doing. I have
a friend who does that, God love him. But we're
all going to go to Las Vegas. And we invited
him and we said, hey, we're going to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Can you go? And he's like, no, I'm directing that day.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm like, okay, you just can't say you're working, right
I In my entire life, all I've said was work,
I'm working today, yeah, or I'm working. Then people tell
you what they do. This is the capital of what
do I do? God, it never ever is always very entertaining.
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I got to work out class. You know something's going
on down there. But I'm with to spin such a
new class. I can't afford to miss this. One's new
juice place up in our dn Street. I'm gonna get
my money back if I missed another one. I missed
another one. It's another shooting. Way back when.
Speaker 12 (12:03):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM sixty, we.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Had two planes nearly collde leaving lax One was going
to JFK and the other was going to Rome. Right,
beautiful Italian I don't know, vacation or going back to
see mom and dad, going back to tell mom and dad,
you know how to say ding dong and Italian ding
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a dong. That might be something you share with I
don't know, maybe dad is into them. Your dad's into
ding dong. So these two planes they take off out
of Lax and then nearly crash into each other. If
that were to happen, that would have been all we've
talked about, all we would talk about for the next
week on the air. That could have been six or
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seven hundred people dead around Lax, maybe another twenty or
thirty people dead on the ground. And it's unbelievable how
close that was. I mean, it's incredible that that you
know that that is something that literally could have happened
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in our own backyard and it was only just pure
stupid luck that it didn't happen. And all those people
are alive, all of them. And maybe you know somebody
on one of these planes or I don't know, maybe
you know the pilot or flight crew, But this could
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have been a major, major disaster and it would have
just been Look, it would have been horrible for everybody involved,
all the families involved, all the friends involved, you know,
six or seven hundred people dead, and we could not
have taken that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
As a city. We've had a lot this year.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I know the Dodgers were a highlight, that's great, but
theres all the people lost their homes, lost their lives.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
We just couldn't take it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And so let's get more information on how this happened
and how was it was a verdant.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
Two planes that had just taken off moments apart from
Lax ended up on a collision course with each other.
Speaker 13 (14:17):
The close call happened over the Pacific, and by some accounts,
the pilots only had seconds to take evasive action. Well,
we have learned that this was very close to being
a very serious accident. It happened just moments after the
planes left the runways here at LAX. Experts say it
looks like it was pilot error, corrected thankfully by air
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traffic controllers.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
How about that air traffic controllers save these people. Pilot
was I don't know, screwing around or doing something crazy
in the cockpit could have been pilot error.
Speaker 13 (14:51):
But this will not help public perception right now that
flying is less safe. As the government shut down continues,
and there are massive staffing shortages in the nation's airports.
Speaker 14 (15:01):
I was like, oh, a left ten turner. Well, that's
interesting because we just don't see that, and it kind
of made me think, like, what's going on.
Speaker 13 (15:10):
Kevin Ray has seen thousands of planes take off in land.
His YouTube channel Airline Videos, live streams them from Lax
weekly and he was rolling last Friday as two passenger
jets took off this one and Eats a plane headed
to Rome. This one American Airlines bounced for JFK.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He's a plane spotter, this guy, you know, he sits
at the end of the runway for I don't know,
seven or eight hours a day and writes numbers down,
takes pictures. And that's like a closed knit crew.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's like nine of them to do it. And if
you want to get involved.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You got pay your dues, you got to come in light,
you got to come in you know, not knowing what
you're doing, get to know the fellas. It's like a
long process to get involved with these plane spotters. They
don't like new people. I know that for sure.
Speaker 13 (15:58):
He thought something was strange with eat a flight and
moments later, near catastrophe in the air, as the planes
reportedly came within seconds of colliding.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
How about a guy on the ground who's plane spotting
is identifying a potential catastrophe. How about that it's that
obvious that a guy on the ground looking at these
planes going, oh, that doesn't look normal. These planes are
about the collide.
Speaker 14 (16:22):
And it immediately made a left hand turn basically over
dockwiler Beach, which is not something you would see unless
it was approved by ATC's. Basically, he's making a left
hand turn heading in the direction of the American A
three twenty one.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh, the A three twenty one is not that double decker.
I think that's that big airplane.
Speaker 13 (16:39):
Vas Aviation on YouTube obtained the air traffic audio and
married it to a simulated air traffic controller radar scope
they created right, the movement of the planes is based
on real time GPS tracking. On the top of your screen,
it Y six twenty one is ETA Airlines Flight six
twenty one heading to roll at AAR four is American
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Airlines Flight four heading to New York.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, who's at fault here? The guy the plane
going to Rome or the plane going to New.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
York watches an air traffic controller seems to notice something
happening with the ETA plane upon takeoff. It's headed in
the wrong direction, turning left into the path of the
American flight. He orders the ETA pilot to turn right
immediately as another controller warns the American plane to stop climbing.
Another jet is in its way. Reportedly within five seconds
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of crashing.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
God five seconds with seven hundred people aboard.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Crashing in mid air, American for.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Traffic heading fear left one mile signing out of one
five figureing carcoy.
Speaker 13 (17:44):
Because of the government shutdown, the FAA would not provide
any information about the close call, but the Milan newspaper
Corriere della Sera, which broke this story, reports the planes
were only one thousand yards away from each other, closing
at two hundred and fifty miles an hour. When both
pilots took evasive actions, the crisis averted. An air traffic
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controller asked the eat A pilot what happened.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Ding a dong almost a ding a dong over the Pacific.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
As the tower checked in with Americans pilot about the
near collision.
Speaker 15 (18:19):
American porio, sorry about that. The traffic off the north
side just turned to the south on their own, right
in front.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Of a pretty casual apology for almost eight hundred people.
Speaker 15 (18:27):
Dead, American Porio. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Sorry about that, Sorry Bob.
Speaker 15 (18:33):
Sorry about that. The traffic off the north side just
turned to the south on their own, right in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, no worries. Appreciate that. We noticed that the American.
Speaker 15 (18:40):
Power getting together ahead of two.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, not really, We just kind of saw the as
we climbed up.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Got a mighty it's a wild, wild West out there.
They did.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They said they didn't get any information from the tower.
They just noticed another plane coming towards and they averted,
it is that, geez, I don't know, maybe they're on
their way.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I was heading to a workout class.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Here, the pilot was going to workout class.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We climbed up.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
American Airlines confirmed the near collision in a statement, thanking
air traffic controllers for their quick thinking. We could not
reach Eta Airlines for comment. Both flights did make it
to their destinations safely.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
There's a way. Who is the reporter here?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
We are live at LAX.
Speaker 13 (19:27):
I'm Lori Perez CBSLA.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Great job, Lori, but a casual flight, you know, you
almost crashed into another jet, and now you have eighteen
hours left.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Just get stuck.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You only have eighteen and a half hours left on
a flight that almost crashed into another plane. There's a
I bet you a lot of guys that quit drinking
are back on the.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Sauce as gentlemen. I hang on, we're just getting started.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, I noticed you've probably noticed that big jet on
the outside. Well, we averted that, but we got eighteen
and a half hours left of averting more jets. So
ship back. Enjoy yourself. We're running the We're running Big
the movie with Tom Hanks.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
Okay, you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You got to hear this audio. This is the actual
audio of that near collision over lax. It happened on Halloween.
I don't know what time of day it happened. I
think it was. I don't know what time. I don't
know why it's important. Well, I don't know why it's important.
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Because the sun was out and they could see each other.
But maybe at night they could see each other too.
But if it was foggy, and it could have been,
you know, very thick. Fog is one of the reasons
why they don't like to take off and fog because of,
you know, incidents like this. But these are two massive
planes that nearly collided into one another right out out
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of Lax. The Italian airliner took off west out of
Lax and immediately turned left. And if you've ever flown
out of Lax, you know that you fly over the
ocean for five, six, seven, maybe ten or twelve miles
before the plane turns left or right. If you're going
to Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, it turns to the right, and
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if you're going almost anywhere else it turns the left.
And most of the planes going to New York they
turn left and you get to fly right over La
and on a clear day it's beautiful where you fly
right back over Lax and you get to see the
La Basin and how massive it is and how huge
it is, and when you're a kid, that's all you're
glued to.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You're glued to the window, just staring outside and looking around.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You can't believe you're that high in the sky, and
modern technology, it's unbelievable. So this Italian chap takes off
and immediately turns left, just because he felt like it,
and the air traffic controller is saved both planes. And
even if they didn't hit one, the other plane could
have gone down just because I believe both planes were
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reported as heavy. So both planes have a jet wash
behind them, they could have taken out the other plane.
And if you remember, if I think I'm right about this,
but this happened with a jetwash in Orange County where
it took out the the owners of In and Out,
the in and Out plane. The private plane was coming
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into Orange County and it was following a plane too
closely and it got caught in the jet wash and crashed.
I think it was an Irvine and that killed the
owners at that time of In and Out of the
burger chain, and so that it's a very dangerous thing.
But this is about let me say it's about three
(22:49):
it's about four minutes, but it's really interesting to listen to.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
So this is about. This happened at four eleven okay,
four eleven PM.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, okay, this is on Halloween at four when everyone's
getting their kids ready to go out and trigger treat.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
When we come back, we'll have time to play it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm gonna play the audio and listen to the pilots,
how calm they were, and the and they averted a catastrophe.
You know, Halloween would all would always be remembered for
that where six or seven hundred people died right off
on the beaches of southern California. Would have we would
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have been ten twenty years getting over that, and it
would it would have been the big news story. It
would have ruined Halloween for kids for years around that area.
It would have ruined lives and families forever, altering families forever.
It's a big effing deal. It's a big deal, and
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and everyone was really casual about it, which I guess
is good. But at the end, the control tower gives
the Italian pilot a phone number to call, and that's
always bad news. That usually leads to the license being
plucked out of the wallet and good night on their career.
But when we come back them to play for you,
it's unbelievable to listen to.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This is a big deal. Normally we just do a
story and we press on to another story. But this
is a huge deal. This could have been a catastrophe
over Lax Italian airliner with three hundred people on board
nearly crashed into an American airliner with ninety people on board,
a total of thirty crew members between the two planes,
so that's four hundred and twenty people. The Italian airliner
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took off out of Lax and immediately turned left without
permission and nearly crashed into an American airliner. They were
within they said, one thousand yards a couple of seconds
of crashing into each other. And the reason why this
would have been horrific is both planes were probably loaded
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with fuel. One of them's going to New York, which
is about what a f five and a half hour flight,
and the other was going to Italy that's twelve to
thirteen hours, and you have to have probably I don't know,
thirty eight thousand pounds or more of fuel to make
that trip, and all those people would have been dead.
Four hundred and twenty people, all the family, the friends,
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the loved ones gathering at the airport, the screaming, the crying,
the disbelief, all of that was avoided. But if this
would have happened, it happened on Halloween. The planes left
at four eleven pm, according to Krozer. I believe Krozer,
and it would have destroyed Halloween. A lot of families
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would have been going to the airport instead of taking
their kids out trigg or treating.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And this is a big deal. It's a huge, huge deal.
That was Belly. Oh, by the way, she came in
and told me, oh, is that right?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, okay, just credit due, Okay, but you have no
idea how much anguish and sorrow and depression that we avoided.
Because you know, people listening to the to the to
the show right now probably knew somebody on that plane
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or knew of maybe they were a coworker or a
distant relative or a family friend or whatever. Tens of
thousands of people in LA would have been affected by them,
and it would always been known as the crash and Halloween.
It would have taken Halloween away from kids for a
long time as we commemorate that every year. Picking out,
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you know, the cameras over the ocean, the LA again
the center of of negative attention with lights and heavy
cranes picking out you know, debris forever out of the ocean.
A big monument on Dockwiler Beach to the people who
lost their lives. It would have been huge, It would
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have been horrible, and it was avoided by by the
American airline pilot and the air traffic controller. But I
want you to I'm gonna play this and it's full
in its entirety without interrupting it. Just listen how close
this was to an unbelievable disaster.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
I take two one heavy one s thre either A
one one or alfadel ray for a left plass to take.
Speaker 15 (27:19):
Off, you go round way two four left, I claimed the.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Ray six thanking four winch freezer. When one doctor my
two five right pre potato.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Go too far out of the doctor.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That they're taking off right now.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Both planes are taking off heading west, and both of
them take off right around the exact.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Same heavy part of the American forces.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
One heavy contacts ocal departure.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of Russians that was six.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So what we can't hear here is the Italian airliner
was probably five or six hundred feet in front of
the American airliner, and so they both take off west
and the Italian uh plane turned into the American plane.
The American plane was south of the Italian plane, and
the Italian plane turned left right into the path of
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the American airliner.
Speaker 15 (28:39):
Probably today heavy. I tear a six twenty one heavy
to coupartrait or contact onanbeacause I maintain one two thousand one.
I tear a six twenty one heavy turn right heading
two seventyer immediately.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
Americans four, bak, I stop your out the two clients,
American four traffic headings to your left one mile finding
out of one thousand, five hundred heavy up a secrety
cartantly s much so.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Call the parts of got have to the American four with
you one thousand found a climbing five thousand. We have
traffic in size American four.
Speaker 15 (29:16):
Thank you American four, and stop your climb fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Stop the club fifteen hundred Market four.
Speaker 15 (29:23):
I tair six twenty one heavy fighting two seven zero
two seven year ters six hundred thirk and four fighting
one A zero What is there I America for I
taired six twenty one heavy commintain one two.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Thousand, what two twenty hundred American.
Speaker 15 (29:41):
Four combintain one two thousand, two hundred fifty.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Nine one two thousand, two hundred and fifty outs American four.
Speaker 15 (29:48):
Tare at six twenty one heavy fighting two three zero
eighty two zero six twenty hundred.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
And now the Italian plane turns back towards the right.
Speaker 15 (29:59):
American four sorry about the traffic off the north side
just turned to the south on their own, right in
front of you.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
As Yeah, no worries. I appreciate that. We noticed that
the American force.
Speaker 15 (30:09):
And power gave you has ahead up two.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
No, not really, we just kind of solved as soon
as we climbed up.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Wow, Jesus great.
Speaker 15 (30:17):
Six twenty one heavy. You should have been runway heading.
There is the very reason you turn to the south.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Sorryoro six the one Yeah, and he just said sorry, sorry,
Well that wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
For all, for the four hundred and twenty dead people.
He sounded a pretty nonchalant about it.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Too.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Unbelievable, thank you.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
They're going on leaving two thousand for five thousand dollars.
Speaker 15 (30:40):
And nineteen thirty nine. So COUNTERPARTU Rador Contact climbed the
ex I.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Maintained five thousand, climb the ex that maintained five thousand
United nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, so they diverted that. But that's uh, you know,
that's just one. I bet that happens a lot, and
I don't know what the answers. They've got to stop
paying these guys and gals in the tower because if not,
those planes eventually are going to hit each other.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's the dumbest thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We're, you know, the best guys and gals in the
world in air traffic control.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And we're not paying them. They're not getting any money.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
We're live on KFI six for.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am sixty and you're listening to the Conway Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Breaking news, or at
least it was a little earlier. And I think it's
breaking because I live a mile and a half from
where this happened, and so to me, it's really breaking.
A stabbing in Burbank, California, sleepy town at Burbank, California.
(00:21):
Johnny Carson used to make fun of it all the time. Yeah,
I remember some great Burbank jokes. Gets hot in Burbank.
One of the jokes was a it's raining, Oh it's
so hot in Burbank. A dog was chasing a cat
and they were both walking.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But anytime something like this happens in Burbank, sleepy town
where nothing really shakes down, you don't get a lot
of stabbings and shootings. And the reason why this unusual.
There was a shooting in Burbank this week over loud music.
Somebody was playing loud music. They were asked to turn
it down. I guess they didn't turn it down enough
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and bang guns come out. Okay, that was Tuesday or
when Tuesday, I think. And now a stabbing in Burbank
near Burbank High School.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
What's going on in Burbank?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The hell police activity here. This is on Third Street
near Tahunga Avenue in Burbank. Burbank PD on scene. We
understand this is about a mile or so down the
street from the Burbank High School. We are trying to
work on getting confirmation from the Burbank Police Department as
far as the stabbing goes. We understand that possibly the
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stabbing stabbing suspects i should say, have been taken into
custody here or We're waiting on word from the Burbank
PD on that, as well as the status of the
person that was stabbed, their condition and where they were
taken to. But at this point we have the police
activity here right next to this large apartment complex here
off a third and to Hunga. That's the latest overhead
of in Sky five.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's crazy. It's getting crazy out there. And then we
had a an intruder in Studio City and a naked
guy's walking around. He's trying to break in or get
into the yard of this woman's house.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
A veteran tries to stop him.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The naked homeless guy body slams the veteran, and the
veteran both of his legs break.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Busted legs, both of them.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He's all twisted up, and he pulls out a gun
and shoots and kills the homeless guy, kills the homeless guy.
And that didn't That didn't happen fourteen thousand miles from here,
or fourteen hundred miles from here. That happened where we
sit right now in Burbank, maybe three miles from where
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we are right now, maybe three miles. It's where the
one oh one and the one seventy meet. That area.
You know, you got the Ernie's Taco's over there, you
got Cactus, that great Mexican restaurant over there. Oh, it's
a beautiful place. That's where it happened. And it's really close.
And every day we do a story of crime in
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Studio City, Sherman Oaks and Sino Tarzana, Woodland Hills, Thousand Oaks,
all those safe areas where people spent a lot of
money and moved into those homes to stay away from
crap like this. That's why you buy an expensive home.
Otherwise you would just get yourself an apartment on Kester
and Sherman Way.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sorry, to the people in Kester and Sherman Way.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I always have to apologize, but that's an intersection that
I used to live nearby, and it's hot. It's hot
lot goes on on Kester and Sherman Way. So let's
get some more information. The crime does not stop in
the San Fernando Valley Blue Korean.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
We're right off the one oh one freeway between Sarah
and Tahungo. What we know so far is that a
man in his late thirties was apparently naked and burglarized
the front unit of a studio city duplex.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
It's right here behind us.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Where those green hedges are and the large pink tree
where you see all of the police cars. The medical
examiner's truck is over there as well. Witnesses are telling
us that early this morning, a woman was screaming for
help as a man was burglarizing her apartment. Her neighbor,
a seventy nine year old man, then confronted the suspect,
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told him he was armed with a gun and warned
him to leave.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
The suspect approaches the male seventy nine year old and
body slams him on the ground. The neighbor, who's seventy
nine years old. Subsequently suffered two broken legs.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
But when you're seventy nine two broken legs, it could
be the end, you know, with circulation seventy nine. He's
a war veteran, a veteran of the Armed services, and
now he's got two busted legs at seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That is often a death sentence. It's horrible, horrible.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
Subsequently suffered two broken legs. Were at this time in
self defense shoots the suspect three times.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
The man who fired the shots is a Vietnam veteran,
and as you heard, broke both of his legs when
he was slammed to the ground.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
The trespasser was old.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I saw more action in Studio City than he did
in Vietnam, probably during the war. He's he's back in
the Studio City in a very safe area. During they
can just go over there and see some action.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, he's actually during the war.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He's not like Mark Thompson. Mark Thompson always says, you know,
I bet I went to Vietnam, Like, oh Christ, we
were we were there in sixty eight, sixty nine. Yeah,
were you in Saigon? What did you see anything? Because
I went last week oh yeah, then you were in Vietnam.
You went to Vietnam. Weren't in Vietnam. You know, we
like them now they're doing better than we are, cleaner
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and safer.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
The trespasser was ultimately killed by those gunshots.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What a way to go naked early in the morning,
trying to break into some woman's house and a Vietnam
vet takes you out.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
This is how you end up. That's it. Three shots,
bang bang, that's your final chapter. Bang ah, Christ that hurts.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
The trespasser was ultimately killed by those gunshots.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And then you know what they said on the news.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
They said, lapd is saying this is possibly self defense. Really,
you're gonna put that Vietnam vet in prison for this
possibly self defense? Little yeah busted both of his legs
and was shot to death. There's not a jury in
the world they would convict this guy. They just be
looking it. You're be looking at and like, why wait here,
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what are we doing here? It's gonna be a fire.
Do we have to go to the jury room for this?
I think we can all just do a hands up
thing there.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Mighty witnesses tell us they heard a woman screaming for help.
Then they saw the alleged intruder naked on the ground.
They also saw the seventy nine year old man injured
and lying on the ground.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Maybe it was an episode of Naked and Unafraid? Is
that the name of that show? Naked and Unafraid?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Unafraid? Is it Naked and Afraid? I think so? Yeah,
Naked and Afraid? No, I think it's Naked and Unafraid?
Isn't it? Is it naked?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You're right?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Is it really afraid?
Speaker 8 (07:12):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Because my wife watches that crazy show all the time.
She's sort of addicted to that. And and deadly is
catch or yeah, deadly is catch? And so I'm constantly,
you know, coming home trying to eat dinner and there's
fifty five year old naked guys on TV for a
half hour, you know, trying to get the you know,
the woman to help him start a fire and catch
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a fish or something.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I don't know. It's wild show. You know, when and
Afraid you get the show. But if you put in
Naked and Unafraid, you'll just get a ton of stories
about people pretty much doing this.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Maybe this guy was auditioning for Naked and Afraid or Unafraid?
What's the name of that show is it Naked and Afraid. Yeah,
naked and afrase.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I thought it was not.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Unafraid, Naked on the ground.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
They also say that's that's another show that you.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Ends doing, naked on the ground.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Naked on the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, it's about a homeless guy trying to break into
a Vietnam Vets.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Joint, naked on the ground, and.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Then the next naked.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
On the ground.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
They also saw the seventy nine year old man injured
and lying on the ground.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, he's busted up, he's all twisted up like a
pretzel and he's gonna I mean, this poor man, seventy
nine years old, he's in Vietnam, and again he saw
more action in Studio City today than perhaps when he
was in Vietnam.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
How about that my roommate, I actually didn't really know
what was going on. I was heading to a workout class.
Next thing I know, and oh god.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Am I I This drives me crazy. LA is the
capital of me, the me? What am I doing?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She could have just said I was leaving, but she said, no,
I'm leaving, I'm going to my workout class. Everybody always
has to tell you what class they're taking, have they're
running a marathon, what they're drinking, what smoothie they're involved with,
what their favorite juice is, What their favorite new vetgetable is?
The cure cancer? Next trip to arawon right, everybody's well,
you know, I was gonna go work out today's upper body.
(09:08):
So yeah, leg press is there, I got my favorite
nautilist machine is down on Ventura.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Dear call what bat man? We're talking about this?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This guy is oh yeah, christ sorry, all right? What
happened again?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
What is going on?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
I was heading to a workout class.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I was heading to workout class.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Workout class?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Who cares where you're going.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
A little bit about me?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
First, heading to workout class.
Speaker 9 (09:31):
Next thing I know, I was five minutes down the road.
My roommate texted me frantically and was like, oh my gosh,
I hear gunshots.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You might you might miss your workout class.
Speaker 9 (09:40):
Something's happening. I have no idea. I think it's two
guys that got into a fight.
Speaker 10 (09:44):
Their gate was open, so I think he just kind
of walked over there and went into their gate and
she was telling him to get out, go away, please
get out, go away. But he just kept walking towards
the gate. And so that's after I heard her say
that this when like I heard shots fired.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
We're told the seventy nine years old man is now
in surgery and is in stable condition. Police tell us
this is probably a good case for self defense.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Probably is that the term they use.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Police tell us, this is probably a good case for
self defense.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, you know what I'm gonna I agree with them.
I agree with them. This is probably a good case
for body slam. Two broken legs, naked, homeless guy on
drugs threatening a woman, and this guy shot him three
times and killed him. Probably, I'm gonna still looking to it.
(10:34):
Probably there's probably a chance.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Police tell us this is probably a good case for
self defense. LAPD is sticking around the scene investigating the
altercation and the shooting. That's the latest from Studio City.
I'm Rachel Menotov.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Hi, Rachel, Thanks. I love the double down of it's
probably a good case.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, there's a merit here. We're still looking at it.
We're interviewing the workout woman. She's gonna come back after
eleven o'clock spin class.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
He's not too sweaty.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We got to get her between spin class and hot yoga,
so we got an hour with her.
Speaker 11 (11:09):
Everybody's always telling you what what they're doing. I have
a friend who does that, God love him. But we're
all going to go to Las Vegas. And we invited
him and we said, hey, we're going to Vegas.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Can you go? And he's like, no, I'm directing that day.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm like, okay, you just can't say you're working, right
I In my entire life, all I've said was work,
I'm working today, yeah, or I'm working. Then people tell
you what they do. This is the capital of what
do I do? God, it never ever is always very entertaining.
(11:49):
I got to work out class. You know something's going
on down there. But I'm with to spin such a
new class. I can't afford to miss this. One's new
juice place up in our dn Street. I'm gonna get
my money back if I missed another one. I missed
another one. It's another shooting. Way back when.
Speaker 12 (12:03):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM sixty, we.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Had two planes nearly collde leaving lax One was going
to JFK and the other was going to Rome. Right,
beautiful Italian I don't know, vacation or going back to
see mom and dad, going back to tell mom and dad,
you know how to say ding dong and Italian ding
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a dong. That might be something you share with I
don't know, maybe dad is into them. Your dad's into
ding dong. So these two planes they take off out
of Lax and then nearly crash into each other. If
that were to happen, that would have been all we've
talked about, all we would talk about for the next
week on the air. That could have been six or
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seven hundred people dead around Lax, maybe another twenty or
thirty people dead on the ground. And it's unbelievable how
close that was. I mean, it's incredible that that you
know that that is something that literally could have happened
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in our own backyard and it was only just pure
stupid luck that it didn't happen. And all those people
are alive, all of them. And maybe you know somebody
on one of these planes or I don't know, maybe
you know the pilot or flight crew, But this could
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have been a major, major disaster and it would have
just been Look, it would have been horrible for everybody involved,
all the families involved, all the friends involved, you know,
six or seven hundred people dead, and we could not
have taken that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
As a city. We've had a lot this year.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I know the Dodgers were a highlight, that's great, but
theres all the people lost their homes, lost their lives.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
We just couldn't take it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And so let's get more information on how this happened
and how was it was a verdant.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
Two planes that had just taken off moments apart from
Lax ended up on a collision course with each other.
Speaker 13 (14:17):
The close call happened over the Pacific, and by some accounts,
the pilots only had seconds to take evasive action. Well,
we have learned that this was very close to being
a very serious accident. It happened just moments after the
planes left the runways here at LAX. Experts say it
looks like it was pilot error, corrected thankfully by air
(14:39):
traffic controllers.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
How about that air traffic controllers save these people. Pilot
was I don't know, screwing around or doing something crazy
in the cockpit could have been pilot error.
Speaker 13 (14:51):
But this will not help public perception right now that
flying is less safe. As the government shut down continues,
and there are massive staffing shortages in the nation's airports.
Speaker 14 (15:01):
I was like, oh, a left ten turner. Well, that's
interesting because we just don't see that, and it kind
of made me think, like, what's going on.
Speaker 13 (15:10):
Kevin Ray has seen thousands of planes take off in land.
His YouTube channel Airline Videos, live streams them from Lax
weekly and he was rolling last Friday as two passenger
jets took off this one and Eats a plane headed
to Rome. This one American Airlines bounced for JFK.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
He's a plane spotter, this guy, you know, he sits
at the end of the runway for I don't know,
seven or eight hours a day and writes numbers down,
takes pictures. And that's like a closed knit crew.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's like nine of them to do it. And if
you want to get involved.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You got pay your dues, you got to come in light,
you got to come in you know, not knowing what
you're doing, get to know the fellas. It's like a
long process to get involved with these plane spotters. They
don't like new people. I know that for sure.
Speaker 13 (15:58):
He thought something was strange with eat a flight and
moments later, near catastrophe in the air, as the planes
reportedly came within seconds of colliding.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
How about a guy on the ground who's plane spotting
is identifying a potential catastrophe. How about that it's that
obvious that a guy on the ground looking at these
planes going, oh, that doesn't look normal. These planes are
about the collide.
Speaker 14 (16:22):
And it immediately made a left hand turn basically over
dockwiler Beach, which is not something you would see unless
it was approved by ATC's. Basically, he's making a left
hand turn heading in the direction of the American A
three twenty one.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh, the A three twenty one is not that double decker.
I think that's that big airplane.
Speaker 13 (16:39):
Vas Aviation on YouTube obtained the air traffic audio and
married it to a simulated air traffic controller radar scope
they created right, the movement of the planes is based
on real time GPS tracking. On the top of your screen,
it Y six twenty one is ETA Airlines Flight six
twenty one heading to roll at AAR four is American
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Airlines Flight four heading to New York.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
All right, who's at fault here? The guy the plane
going to Rome or the plane going to New.
Speaker 13 (17:09):
York watches an air traffic controller seems to notice something
happening with the ETA plane upon takeoff. It's headed in
the wrong direction, turning left into the path of the
American flight. He orders the ETA pilot to turn right
immediately as another controller warns the American plane to stop climbing.
Another jet is in its way. Reportedly within five seconds
(17:33):
of crashing.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
God five seconds with seven hundred people aboard.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Crashing in mid air, American for.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Traffic heading fear left one mile signing out of one
five figureing carcoy.
Speaker 13 (17:44):
Because of the government shutdown, the FAA would not provide
any information about the close call, but the Milan newspaper
Corriere della Sera, which broke this story, reports the planes
were only one thousand yards away from each other, closing
at two hundred and fifty miles an hour. When both
pilots took evasive actions, the crisis averted. An air traffic
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controller asked the eat A pilot what happened.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Ding a dong almost a ding a dong over the Pacific.
Speaker 13 (18:15):
As the tower checked in with Americans pilot about the
near collision.
Speaker 15 (18:19):
American porio, sorry about that. The traffic off the north
side just turned to the south on their own, right
in front.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Of a pretty casual apology for almost eight hundred people.
Speaker 15 (18:27):
Dead, American Porio. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Sorry about that, Sorry Bob.
Speaker 15 (18:33):
Sorry about that. The traffic off the north side just
turned to the south on their own, right in front
of you.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, no worries. Appreciate that. We noticed that the American.
Speaker 15 (18:40):
Power getting together ahead of two.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, not really, We just kind of saw the as
we climbed up.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Got a mighty it's a wild, wild West out there.
They did.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They said they didn't get any information from the tower.
They just noticed another plane coming towards and they averted,
it is that, geez, I don't know, maybe they're on
their way.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I was heading to a workout class.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Here, the pilot was going to workout class.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We climbed up.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
American Airlines confirmed the near collision in a statement, thanking
air traffic controllers for their quick thinking. We could not
reach Eta Airlines for comment. Both flights did make it
to their destinations safely.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
There's a way. Who is the reporter here?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
We are live at LAX.
Speaker 13 (19:27):
I'm Lori Perez CBSLA.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Great job, Lori, but a casual flight, you know, you
almost crashed into another jet, and now you have eighteen
hours left.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Just get stuck.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You only have eighteen and a half hours left on
a flight that almost crashed into another plane. There's a
I bet you a lot of guys that quit drinking
are back on the.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Sauce as gentlemen. I hang on, we're just getting started.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, I noticed you've probably noticed that big jet on
the outside. Well, we averted that, but we got eighteen
and a half hours left of averting more jets. So
ship back. Enjoy yourself. We're running the We're running Big
the movie with Tom Hanks.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
Okay, you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
You got to hear this audio. This is the actual
audio of that near collision over lax. It happened on Halloween.
I don't know what time of day it happened. I
think it was. I don't know what time. I don't
know why it's important. Well, I don't know why it's important.
(20:36):
Because the sun was out and they could see each other.
But maybe at night they could see each other too.
But if it was foggy, and it could have been,
you know, very thick. Fog is one of the reasons
why they don't like to take off and fog because of,
you know, incidents like this. But these are two massive
planes that nearly collided into one another right out out
(20:59):
of Lax. The Italian airliner took off west out of
Lax and immediately turned left. And if you've ever flown
out of Lax, you know that you fly over the
ocean for five, six, seven, maybe ten or twelve miles
before the plane turns left or right. If you're going
to Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, it turns to the right, and
(21:20):
if you're going almost anywhere else it turns the left.
And most of the planes going to New York they
turn left and you get to fly right over La
and on a clear day it's beautiful where you fly
right back over Lax and you get to see the
La Basin and how massive it is and how huge
it is, and when you're a kid, that's all you're
glued to.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
You're glued to the window, just staring outside and looking around.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You can't believe you're that high in the sky, and
modern technology, it's unbelievable. So this Italian chap takes off
and immediately turns left, just because he felt like it,
and the air traffic controller is saved both planes. And
even if they didn't hit one, the other plane could
have gone down just because I believe both planes were
(22:07):
reported as heavy. So both planes have a jet wash
behind them, they could have taken out the other plane.
And if you remember, if I think I'm right about this,
but this happened with a jetwash in Orange County where
it took out the the owners of In and Out,
the in and Out plane. The private plane was coming
(22:27):
into Orange County and it was following a plane too
closely and it got caught in the jet wash and crashed.
I think it was an Irvine and that killed the
owners at that time of In and Out of the
burger chain, and so that it's a very dangerous thing.
But this is about let me say it's about three
(22:49):
it's about four minutes, but it's really interesting to listen to.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
So this is about. This happened at four eleven okay,
four eleven PM.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, okay, this is on Halloween at four when everyone's
getting their kids ready to go out and trigger treat.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
When we come back, we'll have time to play it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm gonna play the audio and listen to the pilots,
how calm they were, and the and they averted a catastrophe.
You know, Halloween would all would always be remembered for
that where six or seven hundred people died right off
on the beaches of southern California. Would have we would
(23:27):
have been ten twenty years getting over that, and it
would it would have been the big news story. It
would have ruined Halloween for kids for years around that area.
It would have ruined lives and families forever, altering families forever.
It's a big effing deal. It's a big deal, and
(23:47):
and everyone was really casual about it, which I guess
is good. But at the end, the control tower gives
the Italian pilot a phone number to call, and that's
always bad news. That usually leads to the license being
plucked out of the wallet and good night on their career.
But when we come back them to play for you,
it's unbelievable to listen to.
Speaker 12 (24:08):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This is a big deal. Normally we just do a
story and we press on to another story. But this
is a huge deal. This could have been a catastrophe
over Lax Italian airliner with three hundred people on board
nearly crashed into an American airliner with ninety people on board,
a total of thirty crew members between the two planes,
so that's four hundred and twenty people. The Italian airliner
(24:35):
took off out of Lax and immediately turned left without
permission and nearly crashed into an American airliner. They were
within they said, one thousand yards a couple of seconds
of crashing into each other. And the reason why this
would have been horrific is both planes were probably loaded
(24:56):
with fuel. One of them's going to New York, which
is about what a f five and a half hour flight,
and the other was going to Italy that's twelve to
thirteen hours, and you have to have probably I don't know,
thirty eight thousand pounds or more of fuel to make
that trip, and all those people would have been dead.
Four hundred and twenty people, all the family, the friends,
(25:18):
the loved ones gathering at the airport, the screaming, the crying,
the disbelief, all of that was avoided. But if this
would have happened, it happened on Halloween. The planes left
at four eleven pm, according to Krozer. I believe Krozer,
and it would have destroyed Halloween. A lot of families
(25:40):
would have been going to the airport instead of taking
their kids out trigg or treating.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And this is a big deal. It's a huge, huge deal.
That was Belly. Oh, by the way, she came in
and told me, oh, is that right?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, okay, just credit due, Okay, but you have no
idea how much anguish and sorrow and depression that we avoided.
Because you know, people listening to the to the to
the show right now probably knew somebody on that plane
(26:13):
or knew of maybe they were a coworker or a
distant relative or a family friend or whatever. Tens of
thousands of people in LA would have been affected by them,
and it would always been known as the crash and Halloween.
It would have taken Halloween away from kids for a
long time as we commemorate that every year. Picking out,
(26:34):
you know, the cameras over the ocean, the LA again
the center of of negative attention with lights and heavy
cranes picking out you know, debris forever out of the ocean.
A big monument on Dockwiler Beach to the people who
lost their lives. It would have been huge, It would
(26:56):
have been horrible, and it was avoided by by the
American airline pilot and the air traffic controller. But I
want you to I'm gonna play this and it's full
in its entirety without interrupting it. Just listen how close
this was to an unbelievable disaster.
Speaker 8 (27:14):
I take two one heavy one s thre either A
one one or alfadel ray for a left plass to take.
Speaker 15 (27:19):
Off, you go round way two four left, I claimed the.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Ray six thanking four winch freezer. When one doctor my
two five right pre potato.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Go too far out of the doctor.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
That they're taking off right now.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Both planes are taking off heading west, and both of
them take off right around the exact.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Same heavy part of the American forces.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
One heavy contacts ocal departure.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of Russians that was six.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So what we can't hear here is the Italian airliner
was probably five or six hundred feet in front of
the American airliner, and so they both take off west
and the Italian uh plane turned into the American plane.
The American plane was south of the Italian plane, and
the Italian plane turned left right into the path of
(28:35):
the American airliner.
Speaker 15 (28:39):
Probably today heavy. I tear a six twenty one heavy
to coupartrait or contact onanbeacause I maintain one two thousand one.
I tear a six twenty one heavy turn right heading
two seventyer immediately.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
Americans four, bak, I stop your out the two clients,
American four traffic headings to your left one mile finding
out of one thousand, five hundred heavy up a secrety
cartantly s much so.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Call the parts of got have to the American four with
you one thousand found a climbing five thousand. We have
traffic in size American four.
Speaker 15 (29:16):
Thank you American four, and stop your climb fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Stop the club fifteen hundred Market four.
Speaker 15 (29:23):
I tair six twenty one heavy fighting two seven zero
two seven year ters six hundred thirk and four fighting
one A zero What is there I America for I
taired six twenty one heavy commintain one two.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Thousand, what two twenty hundred American.
Speaker 15 (29:41):
Four combintain one two thousand, two hundred fifty.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Nine one two thousand, two hundred and fifty outs American four.
Speaker 15 (29:48):
Tare at six twenty one heavy fighting two three zero
eighty two zero six twenty hundred.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
And now the Italian plane turns back towards the right.
Speaker 15 (29:59):
American four sorry about the traffic off the north side
just turned to the south on their own, right in
front of you.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
As Yeah, no worries. I appreciate that. We noticed that
the American force.
Speaker 15 (30:09):
And power gave you has ahead up two.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
No, not really, we just kind of solved as soon
as we climbed up.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Wow, Jesus great.
Speaker 15 (30:17):
Six twenty one heavy. You should have been runway heading.
There is the very reason you turn to the south.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Sorryoro six the one Yeah, and he just said sorry, sorry,
Well that wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
For all, for the four hundred and twenty dead people.
He sounded a pretty nonchalant about it.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Too.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Unbelievable, thank you.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
They're going on leaving two thousand for five thousand dollars.
Speaker 15 (30:40):
And nineteen thirty nine. So COUNTERPARTU Rador Contact climbed the
ex I.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Maintained five thousand, climb the ex that maintained five thousand
United nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Okay, so they diverted that. But that's uh, you know,
that's just one. I bet that happens a lot, and
I don't know what the answers. They've got to stop
paying these guys and gals in the tower because if not,
those planes eventually are going to hit each other.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's the dumbest thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We're, you know, the best guys and gals in the
world in air traffic control.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And we're not paying them. They're not getting any money.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
We're live on KFI six for.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
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