July 23, 2025 • 35 mins
Tim Conway Jr. sits down with Los Angeles District Attorney Nathan Hochman for an exclusive conversation on the recent surge in crime in Encino, including details on the tragic double murder of an American Idol executive and her husband. They discuss gun ownership, public safety, and how Hochman plans to restore a sense of hope across LA. The conversation continues with updates on the East Hollywood crash that injured 37 people—highlighting the swift actions of first responders. Tim recaps the biggest takeaways from the interview, then closes the hour reflecting on the LA Times’ plan to go public—and a childhood memory that proves just how much that paper once meant.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's kf I am six forty and you're listening to
the Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. And
the Conway family has always had a great reputation and
a great relationship with the District Attorneys of La County.
I go back to Jackie Lacy, Steve Cooley, back to
Garcetti Reiner, and I know who was before Reiner. I
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think it was either a Vandy camp or Philiposian. But
we go way back and respect the DA in La
County much more so than other political positions. It's a
very important position. And I think this guy, Nathan Hockman
is knocking it out and he joins us, mister Hackman,
how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm great. Thank you very much for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But I really appreciate coming on. On a personal note,
you and I have lived sort of parallel lives. We
both graduated from high school in Los Angeles in nineteen
eighty one. We're both class of nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I loved it. Were you also class of eighty five
from college?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well that's where we part ways. I went into radio
and you guys got your nose stuck in those books,
and thank god you did, but we got some things
to discuss. But you know, I think that you know,
when you were trying to be, you know, the Attorney
General for the state of California, I'm sort of glad
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that that didn't work out, because I think it's more important,
at least for us in Los Angeles that we have
somebody in your office like you, as opposed to a
statewide office. I think you can get more done locally here.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think you're absolutely right in part. One of the
reasons I actually wanted to become the Attorney General when
Gascon was the DA is that the Attorney General is
the DA's boss.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh good.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And I actually said during that campaign that if Gascon
wasn't going to do his job, the Attorney General could
actually come in on each case in which he failed
to do so and substitute him out and bring the
Attorney general's lawyers. But actually being the DA directly allows
me to affect one hundred and eighty thousand criminal cases
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that are prosecuted by the DA's office in just La
County every year. Wow, and be in charge of seven
hundred and fifty prosecutors who do that work, who are
incredibly talented and experience and do a great job every day,
and so you're right for the immediate impact in Los
Angeles County. Being the LA DA provide that opportunity, you.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Know, looking forward. I know you're forward thinking man. You
don't like to dwell in the past. But just a
quick question, how long did it take you to clean
the mess up once you got into the DA's office
that gas gone left?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So we did a forty person reorganization the first day
I showed up. We prepared it ahead of time. We
moved out over the next probably one month. All these
supervisors that he had brought in from the Public Defender's
Office supervised prosecutors. They got moved to different departments or
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different parts of the county, and we brought in the people.
My upper management team is incredible. My chief Deputy, Stephen Kass,
has thirty five years experience. My four assistant district attorneys
average only thirty years of experience, and then the directors
below them average a mere twenty five years each of experience.
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So we brought in the people who have done the job,
who have the highest levels of respect, integrity, and trust
in the office, and they're now helping me run the office.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know, before we get into the local big stories
here that are grabbing the headlines, I got to tell
you a quick, great story about Jackie Lacy, who was
the DA before gast Gom. I ran into her at
the Autry Museum. There was a charity event that she
was speaking at and they wanted me to m see it.
And I was sitting it next to not only at
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Jackie Lacy's table, but I was sitting next to her
and she was talking about how much she'd loved the
Caraburnette show and how she would love to go back
and just watch you with her mom and dad. And
I said to her, I said, oh, that's great. I said,
if my picture ever comes across your desk, would you
give me a break? And you know what she said.
She said, Tim, if your picture comes and lands on
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my desk, you've passed up on a lot of breaks.
That's a great line.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's actually, that's a great line, a really great line.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's great. Okay, let's get into this. I grew up
in the Encino area, Tarzana, and then in Sino. We
had a house on the flats. You know, my dad
had six kids, so we weren't you know in Sino Hills material.
But I understand the people in Encino are freaked out
about the double murder that happened off of White Oak.
And have you found out anything more about you know,
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about how this happened. And the calls come from inside
the house when this guy you know murdered these two
people allegedly and and and then called the cops? Did
he call the cops on himself from the house.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So, as you can well respect, there's an ongoing investigation
and all the details of this particular case. What we
do know is over the weekend you had a situation
where this individual went ahead and climbed over the wall
that separated their house from the street. A neighbor, we
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think it's a neighbor called nine one one alerted the
police to that. Then, unfortunately, Rob and Kay and Tom
de Luca come back home. The individual, who we later
determined was Ram Bouderian was in the home waiting for them,
and also unfortunate, he was able to obtain their gun. Uh.
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He ends up shooting them, as we believe the evidence
will show, in course, with their gun uh. And at
that point the police are not alerted beyond the original
Burglery UH, and the police weren't in a position to
stop that shooting. What thereafter happens is UH information is
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brought to the police that has them go to the
to the house UH four days later when they do
a check on the house. So they had done a
check on the house to begin with H and that
was after even if they had gotten in at the house,
that was after unfortunately these two home owners had been shot.
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They don't get into the house the first time, but
they do receive a nine to one one call after
they find the bodies, and the timing we can sort
of we'll get into the timing of that call when
the evidence comes out at trial or in a hearing.
But they are able to be alerted to a call
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that mister Bugerian had made.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
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Speaker 2 (07:13):
And they tracked that the cell phone from the phone
number to where mister Bugerian was within twenty four hours
after they've found the bodies, they were able to arrest him.
At that point. We believe that we have the right person.
You know, anything I just thrive about the case won't
be evidence in court. That will be evidence we actually
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present in court. But as the charges have said, he
is being charged with two first degree murders with special circumstances,
which means he's looking at a minimum of life without
the possibility of parole.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And you know what, again, D Nathan Hoffman is with us.
You know, after this case, this case also may have
may save some lives because after this, after the information
came out that this guy shot these two people with
their own gun, my wife said to me, hey, look,
we have got to get a gun safe because I
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thought after your kids turned eighteen and they became adults,
that there was, you know, very little reason to lock
up the guns anymore. But this is a blaring, a
glaring oversight that you should always keep your guns locked
up even though your kids are older and are adults.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I would agree, you know, it's you know, I'm a
big believer in the Second Amendment, but I'm also a
believer that when someone is confronted by an intruder in
their house, being able to have enormous amount of experience
on how and when to use a gun appropriately is
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something that you have to invest the time in and
not only just going to a gun range and shooting
get because I will guarantee you if there's an intruder
in your house and you're holding your gun at that point,
your heart rate is as high as it is going
to go in your life. The adrenaline is pumping. They
actually say, it narrows your vision, it restricts your hearing.
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And the last thing you want to do is find
out that your daughter had her boyfriend come over late
at night and you shoot him or somehow the intruder
now here's you, you know, coming at him and is
racing to get out of your house and get shot
in the back as he's trying to run away, or worse,
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you shoot, you miss, and that bullet goes through a
door or two and kill someone else in your house. Again,
if you have the propriate training in these type of
incredibly intense situations, you'll be able to slow things down.
That's what people with either police training or military training
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talk about. They've done it so many times that they
can actually slow the entire situation down and make good
decisions based on the fact that they've brought through these
situations hundreds of times before.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, a lot in this case is.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know an example that necessarily having a gun in
the house isn't going to save you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right, District Attorney Nathan Hockman is with us. You know,
before you came into office, my wife and I seriously
talk about moving out of Los Angeles, And when you
came in, it was a big sigh of relief in
our house that there might be somebody now in charge,
an adult in charge, and this city might be able
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to turn around and save itself. I think a lot
of people in LA feel that exact same way about
you being the district Attorney and no longer George Gascombe.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, and I very much appreciate it. You know, this
job is sort of, you know, one of the greatest
honors a lawyer in our community could ever have to
be able to serve the public. And what I did
from day one is I re establish sort of a
regime of accountability for criminals. I basically got rid of
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gas Gone special directives that said certain crimes and certain
criminals would no longer be prosecuted notwithstanding the facts and
the evidence. So, for instance, you know juveniles who were
committing misdemeanors, which are people under eighteen, for instance, stealing
just under nine hundred and fifty dollars. He had a
special directive they would not be prosecuted gang members engaged
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in violent crimes. He refused to allow his prosecutors to
bring the gang enhancement, which for thirty years had worked
by assessing additional years of prison to a gang member
engaged in a violent crime to basically cripple criminal streakings.
All that was gone for four years, and criminals got
used to being arrested in the morning and out by
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the after noon, or not getting arrested at all, or
getting a relative slap on the wrist for a whole
variety of crimes that they otherwise had been held accountable for.
So from day one I got rid of and rescinded
all nine of Gascon's special directors, and as importantly, I
re established the trust with my own prosecutors. You know
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these prosecutors again, incredibly talented group of people. They voted
ninety eight percent to support Gascon's recall. Wow. So I
worked very hard to re establish the aspree de corps
in the DA's office. Translated that over to law enforcement.
GASCON had been more interested in prosecuting law enforcement than
partnering with them. I've told law enforcement that the DA's
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office is open for business again. Bring us great cases
with tons of evidence, and we will give a fair
shot to every one of those cases. Having my taken
the political agenda off the table and gone back to
the facts and the law the argument as well to
victim groups. Victim groups have felt abandoned by George Gascon.
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I've showed up for their meetings. I've talked to their
leaders and I said, look, the DA's office has to
be the champion of victims in the system. A defendant
gets their own defense attorney, there's a judge, there's a jury,
But who represents the victims if not the DA's office.
So I've re established that role, that key role that
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the DA's office plays in the system to make sure
it is the champion of victims in every court in
which there is a victims situation.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Taking these thank you, I mean it's been it's been
a great, great opportunity to get in office that is
one of the premier DA's offices in the nation back
on track, re establish that partnership with both victims and
law enforcement. And then there's a fourth group that I've
taken my messages too. That's the criminals. I've told the
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criminals that look, you had four years of funding games,
lack of accountability, but that's over. And it doesn't mean
I'm going to go ahead and replace gascon decarceration which
is what he called it, with mass incarceration. Both political
philosophies aren't anchored in the facts and the law. What
I've instituted is what I call the hard work middle
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or the hard middle approach, because it actually takes a
lot of work to look at each case individually, the
individual defendant and their background, the crime committed, and the
impact on the victim to determine who the truth threats
are to our public safety. And those are often the
repeat offenders who have to be behind bars, and is
importantly the ones that aren't. The first time non violent
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offender still has to pay a debt back to society
for violating society's laws. But that's where non prison alternatives
in that class of cases come to play, whether it's
community service, restitution, pay it back. If you saw something
where if you have a serious drug addiction, they got
you to do the crime, We'll give you an opportunity
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for a diversion program. It gives you a choice. You
can go to prison, or you can do an eighteen month,
one day at a time, rigorous rehab program that if
you succeed, we'll give you a certificate and we'll wipe
that crime off your record. That is what a proportional,
common sense, hard middle approach looks like. That we've been instituting.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's great. DA A district attorney for La County, Nathan Hofkman,
is with us. Let's now talk about the horrible, you know,
attempted murder that happened on Friday night, late last Friday night,
where a guy who's thrown out of the Vermont Club Ramirez,
then allegedly turns around and drives his car into thirty
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seven people. Should that guy have been off the streets?
Is that something that if you know, if you were
the DA over the last you know, four to six
eight years instead of just you know, a year and
a half or so, is that somebody who may not
have been on the streets.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, you know, we charged a pending case that he
had out of Orange County, a twenty twenty two domestic
violence case that is still pending, you know, has not
been resolved. I had that case been resolved and had
been sentenced on that case. He very well could may
not have been there this prior weekend to basically use
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his car as a plow as he was going down
a sidewalk taking out thirty seven people. And God love it.
Then thank God that nobody actually got killed. Miracle, not
for any good driving on this part. Is truly a
miracle that people suffered obviously serious situations, broken bones, fractures, lacerations,
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but even the person who was underneath his car didn't
end up dying. Wow, So that is a small miracle.
And by the way, the work of our first responders,
over one hundred firefighters and police at like two am
in the morning descend into East Hollywood. They do triage
and treatment in a way that is just incredible. They
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got thirty seven people to a hospital. Again, eight of
them were suffering from these great bodily injuries and nobody dies.
So my hack goes off to the incredible work that
our first responders did in this situation.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And again we're talking to Nathan Hofkman, District Attorney of
County of Los Angeles. What is this kid? And I
imagine he's a kid. I heard he's in his twenties,
maybe early thirties. What is he looking at? Is he
looking at life in prison without the possibility of parole
for this act.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So it's a tempted murder, and we charge him with
one count of attempted murder and one count of assault
with a deadly weapon, that being in the car for
each of the thirty seven victims. So that's thirty seven
counts of attempted murder, thirty seven counts of assault with
the deadly weapons. All these charges carry life sentences. Now
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it's not life without the possibility of parole. That's reserved
for a death penally. I mean, excuse me, a first
degree murder with special circumstances type of situation. But he
easily could get multiple life sentences. In fact, we would
seek all thirty seven life sentences against him. So will
this guy get parole in his lifetime? You know one
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would would very much hope no. But I can't speak
for the California State legislature and what they might do
in the future.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It is that's it's a breath of fresh air. I
can't imagine how Gascon would have treated this guy. But
are you I bet when when you go to the
office I imagine on a daily basis, some of the
district attorneys, some of the attorneys that you have in
the office probably come up to you, if not on
a daily basis, on a weekly and tell you about
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how the morale is picked up in the in your office.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know, people have been very kind. They share with
me that they're enjoying doing the job again, and I
share with them and give them my appreciation because these
are folks that work late into the weekday, night, they
work on weekends. The stress level when you're in trial,
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when you've got the responsibility of the victims and their
entire family counting on you to make sure that you
can convict the person that hurt their loved one. I mean,
this is a stressful, exhausting, but exhilarating job. And so
every time they say anything nice to me, I return
it immediately and say thank you for the great service
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that you have rendered to discounting that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I'm glad you're in the office. You know you may
have been asking yourself. You know, you're on with John Colebell,
and John was very instrumental in trying to help you
get elected, and you didn't really hear from this show
or from me, and I'll tell you why every politician
we've ever had on our show has lost in dramatic
fashion twenty forty points.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'd be happy to break that curse or that streak.
Is it a pleasure to be on your show. I've
heard your show for years. You do a great job,
and I very much appreciate being.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
On, Buddy, I really appreciate coming on, and I can't
tell you how great it is to have another to
have a guy in there who understands the victims are
the priority and not these criminals.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well again, I've been to groups that you never want
to be part of. Parents for Murdered Children, Justice for
Murdered Children, either mothers and actually some fathers, but mostly
mothers who run these organizations that have taken incredibly tragic griefs,
situations of having a son or a daughter murdered and
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created these incredible support groups that when someone sadly has
to enter that that organization or that club, they embrace
and they wrap their arms around them. They show them
that there can be, you know, some ray of light
out there in the world. Still they channel that energy
into hopefully preventing these type of murderers from ever getting
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out and hopefully not even committing these type of crimes
in the first place. So again, it's it's been an
honor to be able to be the champion of these groups.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Again, fantastic. I appreciate you coming on. Keep up the
great work. And hopefully you never see my photo on
your desk.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
If I see it, I'll put it in a frame
and stare at it every day. Great thoughts. Uh, that's
the only way I'll see your photo on my desk.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Thank you, So I appreciate it. Fantastic, good luck and
keep up the hard work.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Thanks again.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Here this is great Nathan Hawkman, District Attorney of La County.
We've got a guy back in office who is going
to give a voice to the victims and is going
to go after these hardened criminals. And he said it.
He says, you know, he's not going after a guy
who steals something for the first time or a guy
who's selling drugs for the first time. He's going to
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give those people a chance, give me eighteen months of
a diversion program, and if they successfully you know, uh,
survive and pass the diversion program, that their record is
going to be wipe clean. So he's fair. But if
you're a hardened criminal in Los Angeles, the gascon days
are over and so you got to straighten up. It's
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time to leave the crime behind and get yourself a gig.
Start paying your bills like everybody else, all those other
losers out here.
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man or not young man. I guess we graduated high
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on the seventy one freeway was closed. Angel Martine is
the sweetest voice in talk radio.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Any update, Well, they are out there with the freeway
shutdown still. This is both directions of the seventy one,
between the ninety one and Butterfield Ranch euclid. But Coltrans
is on the scene. They're getting that left lane reopened
in both directions for travel now. Currently all the firefighters.
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I'm looking at a live shop right now and I'm
still seeing a lot of fire trucks out along the
seventy one. It looks like northbound is maybe the first
side to open because we have a lot of fire
trucks still on the southbound.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Side northbound seventy one from the ninety one.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yes, yes, it's not open yet. They're still working on
getting that left lane reopen. They're doing a little bit
of cleanup, but they're in the process of doing that
as we speak, and I will let you know as
soon as it starts rolling.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Thank you, Angel Martinez Proje. I got a question for you.
I want to I want to add to a San
Bernardino on Monday night, Sunday night, Monday night, I don't
remember what night it was, right, I think it was
Sunday night, and I drove back westbound two ten from
San Bernardino to Burbank right, and I felt like I
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was off roading. The amount of potholes and chunks of
freeway that are missing from that freeway westbound two ten,
especially through Pasadena or through Arcadia and then Pasadena, is unbelievable. Yeah, yeah,
they it's it is.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I always look at it as.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
On my way home because it does have a carpool lane,
but it's not like the newer one. I think it's
like the one of the most neglected freeways in the
south Land. It has to be for updates and things
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And you know, there's an incredible volume on that on
that freeway, you know, and you know it's the the
alternate to the ten Freeway. I remember, you know, for
many many years, did you live out there when that
two ten didn't you exist?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I did?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I I so when it ended at Foothill, the Foothill
at Foothill Boulevard right there at Glendora Laburne sort of
line there. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I remember them opening that freeway and a half hour
after they opened it, it was bumpered, bumpered traffic.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, well it took We had a we had a
nice little grace period where people hadn't really discovered yet
a special especially people come from like the Home Pass.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
They were still going down to the ten.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
But after like two years and all of a sudden,
it everybody realized, oh yeah, now it's just it's horrendous
pretty much. And you know that area, especially around Santa Anita,
which is right east of Pasadena, and they're always doing
work on the sound barrier wall always always, but the
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freeway itself they don't really touch too much.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, I've also noticed that they but I will say
this of that freeway, the two ten Freeway from about
Glendale all the way to where it ends out near
Yama Vah. The shoulders of that freeway are always beautifully landscaped,
you know. I mean they have trees and it looks
nice always.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I'm always fascinated by when you're driving through specific towns
because I think they have the regulation of what they
do on the sides there on the show, I didn't
know that. Yeah, depending on depending on the city, they
control kind of what they do. Because if you go
through Claremont, to me, it's like the ugliest landscaping there.
And Claremont is also it goes down. The two ten
goes down below the level of the rest of the
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of the ground around it, which is nice for noise
sunken Yeah. Yeah, it is especially for me who my
back in my backyard the wall is the freeway, so
that definitely helps, and it also helps with fires and stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, and I will say this of you know Burbank
as well. I told this to a guy who works
in Burbank and know what his capacity is, But I said,
you know when when you when you go to Burbank
or you leave Burbank, the first thing you see when
you come into Burbank, and the last thing you see
when you leave Burbank, for ninety percent of the people
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are the freeway on ramps and off ramps. Yeah, why
wouldn't we make them nice? So people as the last
you know, the last vision they have a Burbank is beautiful,
or the first vision that they have at Burbank is beautiful.
Why are they filled with trash and dead plants and
you know, and it's and weeds and half the time.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
What's odd about that is is that it seems like
once a week, right around Thursday midday, as I'm coming in,
they've got the street sweepers on the shoulders. So it's
like they're they're apparently frequently cleaning them, but they're always filthy.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, they need do landscaping. And I'm willing to work.
You know, I'll get my hands dirty. I'll get out
there and pick up trash on an off ramp one
of those signs that says kept up by Tim, that's right.
I would do. I would dedicate a Saturday, you know,
two saturdays a month to getting out there and cleaning
the freeway on ramps and off ramps. I think it's
important for a city to have nice, clean freeways when
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you drive a cross country and you see how other
cities that, yeah, the sides of their freeways on the
shoulders is stuff completely beautifully manicured. Yeah, it's it's a
little bit frustrated to see it out here. But when
I first started driving, when I was sixteen, they were
all beautiful freeways out here, every one of them. The
ice plant with the flowers, the ivy, the you know,
the pine trees, the oak trees. It was, it was
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the you know, eucalypt trees. They were spectacular. And now
you know, there's no money in California, so they're all neglected. Yeah,
and it and it really is an eye sore because
you know, there are many there are millions of people
that will never ever go to Upland or Clare Mount,
but those millions of people passed through it on the
freeway and they want to They want to see that,
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you know that that your hometown and it and it
ups the property values as well that it's kept up nice.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Maybe maybe that's part of the strategies to keep it
dumpy looking so that they don't they don't have a
bunch of people coming through their town. Maybe maybe you
don't want to get off, and it's like, oh, we
don't want them stopping here.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah enough people here a crappy part of town. They
can't stop here.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Clarmon's notorious for that.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We don't want more people, Yeah, Madge, let's keep driving this.
Claremont is horrible now, but I think freeway on ramps
and off ramps should be beautiful. It's the last thing
and the first thing that people see of your city.
So I'm I'm will willing to volunteer. If anybody else
is in Burbank, call me you know you were, you know,
send up an email here and I'll jump on that.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
Forty if you went to the Dodger game this afternoon.
They played the Minnesota Twins and they won. In the
bottom of the ninth Dodgers had I don't know if
it was basis loaded. I think it's a man on
second and third and Freddie Friedman up two outs. All
they had to do is get Freddy Freeman out and
the Twins win the series two to one. But the
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ball was hitded too left field. The left field who
had a shot. If he caught it, game's over and
he missed it. Two runs score and the Dodgers win
with a walk off single in the bottom of the ninth,
And that's very indicative of a team that goes on
to win the World Series. When you win those tight
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games at home, that's a big deal. So if you
went to the Dodger game today, congratulations and you stayed
to the bottom of the ninth, you saw a huge
celebration on the field with your Los Angeles Dodgers beating
the Twins four to three the final at Dodger Stadium,
Ding dong with those Dodgers all right.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Now, now we have the Los Angeles Times in the news.
The owner is taking the paper public. So you can
pick up a copy of the Times, you can become
a subscriber of the Times, and you can own part
of the La Times.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
See Los Angeles Times will become a publicly traded company.
Billionaire owner doctor Patrick soon Chiong made the announcement yesterday
on the Daily Show.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Important for the paper to have voices of all and
that's what I wanted to do, right, whether you right, left, Democrat, Republican,
you an American. So the opportunity for us to provide
a paper there's the voices of the people, truly the
voices of the people. So I'm going tonunce something with
you tonight, is that that we literally take La Times
the public and allowed to be democratized and allowed the
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public to have the ownerships of this paper.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Wow, that's there, you go, the La Times now pub Well,
it's going to be publicly traded and you could buy
into it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I think he bought The Times and the San Diego Tribune.
I think it's five hundred or five hundred and fifty
million dollars. I don't know what portion, what percentage of
that public of that paper is going to be a
public by interesting, interesting, it may save that paper. They've
had a lot of layoffs, a lot of cutbacks, and
now when they go public, they'll be in there'll be
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a lot more cash initially, so they might be able
to hire new reporters, more investigative work. Maybe we'll keep
an eye on downtown Los Angeles and see what happened
to the three and a half billion dollars it was
supposed to be spent on homeless people and where that
money went. Maybe we can we can hope. I guess
I go way back with the La Times. I love
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the La Times. I used to go to the beach
with my buddies and we took the beach bus. It
would pick us up on Balboa and Ventura, go to Sepulva,
then to Westwood and then there was three buses and
then to the Santa Monica. And I would always bring
the sports page with me. And while my buddies were
talking to girls on the beach and playing in the
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sand and swimming and I don't know, playing frisbee, I
was reading Jim Murray's column from the La Times as
a seventh grader. It's pretty hot. Huh.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Probably we're in black socks with sandals too.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I did wear socks with my shoes, not black, but
I did wear shoes and socks on the sand. And man,
you're right about How did you know that the people
made fun of me for that? I don't think I've
ever told you that. Is that just a guess, just
a guess, just a wild guess. Huh. Yeah, I'm not
a big sand with the bare feet guy. I don't
like that. I like to wear tennis shoes with big
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woolf socks. Woolf. That's right, all right, Hershey's is gonna
raise the price. This is not good news for you
people out there. When we come back, we'll talk about that.
And I was inspired by the Petros Money Show. They
have a hot dog steamer, and I said to Matt
Conway show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Now you
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It's kf I am six forty and you're listening to
the Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. And
the Conway family has always had a great reputation and
a great relationship with the District Attorneys of La County.
I go back to Jackie Lacy, Steve Cooley, back to
Garcetti Reiner, and I know who was before Reiner. I
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think it was either a Vandy camp or Philiposian. But
we go way back and respect the DA in La
County much more so than other political positions. It's a
very important position. And I think this guy, Nathan Hockman
is knocking it out and he joins us, mister Hackman,
how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm great. Thank you very much for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
But I really appreciate coming on. On a personal note,
you and I have lived sort of parallel lives. We
both graduated from high school in Los Angeles in nineteen
eighty one. We're both class of nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I loved it. Were you also class of eighty five
from college?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well that's where we part ways. I went into radio
and you guys got your nose stuck in those books,
and thank god you did, but we got some things
to discuss. But you know, I think that you know,
when you were trying to be, you know, the Attorney
General for the state of California, I'm sort of glad
(01:23):
that that didn't work out, because I think it's more important,
at least for us in Los Angeles that we have
somebody in your office like you, as opposed to a
statewide office. I think you can get more done locally here.
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think you're absolutely right in part. One of the
reasons I actually wanted to become the Attorney General when
Gascon was the DA is that the Attorney General is
the DA's boss.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh good.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And I actually said during that campaign that if Gascon
wasn't going to do his job, the Attorney General could
actually come in on each case in which he failed
to do so and substitute him out and bring the
Attorney general's lawyers. But actually being the DA directly allows
me to affect one hundred and eighty thousand criminal cases
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that are prosecuted by the DA's office in just La
County every year. Wow, and be in charge of seven
hundred and fifty prosecutors who do that work, who are
incredibly talented and experience and do a great job every day,
and so you're right for the immediate impact in Los
Angeles County. Being the LA DA provide that opportunity, you.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Know, looking forward. I know you're forward thinking man. You
don't like to dwell in the past. But just a
quick question, how long did it take you to clean
the mess up once you got into the DA's office
that gas gone left?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So we did a forty person reorganization the first day
I showed up. We prepared it ahead of time. We
moved out over the next probably one month. All these
supervisors that he had brought in from the Public Defender's
Office supervised prosecutors. They got moved to different departments or
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different parts of the county, and we brought in the people.
My upper management team is incredible. My chief Deputy, Stephen Kass,
has thirty five years experience. My four assistant district attorneys
average only thirty years of experience, and then the directors
below them average a mere twenty five years each of experience.
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So we brought in the people who have done the job,
who have the highest levels of respect, integrity, and trust
in the office, and they're now helping me run the office.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You know, before we get into the local big stories
here that are grabbing the headlines, I got to tell
you a quick, great story about Jackie Lacy, who was
the DA before gast Gom. I ran into her at
the Autry Museum. There was a charity event that she
was speaking at and they wanted me to m see it.
And I was sitting it next to not only at
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Jackie Lacy's table, but I was sitting next to her
and she was talking about how much she'd loved the
Caraburnette show and how she would love to go back
and just watch you with her mom and dad. And
I said to her, I said, oh, that's great. I said,
if my picture ever comes across your desk, would you
give me a break? And you know what she said.
She said, Tim, if your picture comes and lands on
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my desk, you've passed up on a lot of breaks.
That's a great line.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's actually, that's a great line, a really great line.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's great. Okay, let's get into this. I grew up
in the Encino area, Tarzana, and then in Sino. We
had a house on the flats. You know, my dad
had six kids, so we weren't you know in Sino Hills material.
But I understand the people in Encino are freaked out
about the double murder that happened off of White Oak.
And have you found out anything more about you know,
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about how this happened. And the calls come from inside
the house when this guy you know murdered these two
people allegedly and and and then called the cops? Did
he call the cops on himself from the house.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So, as you can well respect, there's an ongoing investigation
and all the details of this particular case. What we
do know is over the weekend you had a situation
where this individual went ahead and climbed over the wall
that separated their house from the street. A neighbor, we
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think it's a neighbor called nine one one alerted the
police to that. Then, unfortunately, Rob and Kay and Tom
de Luca come back home. The individual, who we later
determined was Ram Bouderian was in the home waiting for them,
and also unfortunate, he was able to obtain their gun. Uh.
(05:54):
He ends up shooting them, as we believe the evidence
will show, in course, with their gun uh. And at
that point the police are not alerted beyond the original
Burglery UH, and the police weren't in a position to
stop that shooting. What thereafter happens is UH information is
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brought to the police that has them go to the
to the house UH four days later when they do
a check on the house. So they had done a
check on the house to begin with H and that
was after even if they had gotten in at the house,
that was after unfortunately these two home owners had been shot.
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They don't get into the house the first time, but
they do receive a nine to one one call after
they find the bodies, and the timing we can sort
of we'll get into the timing of that call when
the evidence comes out at trial or in a hearing.
But they are able to be alerted to a call
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that mister Bugerian had made.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (07:13):
And they tracked that the cell phone from the phone
number to where mister Bugerian was within twenty four hours
after they've found the bodies, they were able to arrest him.
At that point. We believe that we have the right person.
You know, anything I just thrive about the case won't
be evidence in court. That will be evidence we actually
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present in court. But as the charges have said, he
is being charged with two first degree murders with special circumstances,
which means he's looking at a minimum of life without
the possibility of parole.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And you know what, again, D Nathan Hoffman is with us.
You know, after this case, this case also may have
may save some lives because after this, after the information
came out that this guy shot these two people with
their own gun, my wife said to me, hey, look,
we have got to get a gun safe because I
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thought after your kids turned eighteen and they became adults,
that there was, you know, very little reason to lock
up the guns anymore. But this is a blaring, a
glaring oversight that you should always keep your guns locked
up even though your kids are older and are adults.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I would agree, you know, it's you know, I'm a
big believer in the Second Amendment, but I'm also a
believer that when someone is confronted by an intruder in
their house, being able to have enormous amount of experience
on how and when to use a gun appropriately is
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something that you have to invest the time in and
not only just going to a gun range and shooting
get because I will guarantee you if there's an intruder
in your house and you're holding your gun at that point,
your heart rate is as high as it is going
to go in your life. The adrenaline is pumping. They
actually say, it narrows your vision, it restricts your hearing.
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And the last thing you want to do is find
out that your daughter had her boyfriend come over late
at night and you shoot him or somehow the intruder
now here's you, you know, coming at him and is
racing to get out of your house and get shot
in the back as he's trying to run away, or worse,
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you shoot, you miss, and that bullet goes through a
door or two and kill someone else in your house. Again,
if you have the propriate training in these type of
incredibly intense situations, you'll be able to slow things down.
That's what people with either police training or military training
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talk about. They've done it so many times that they
can actually slow the entire situation down and make good
decisions based on the fact that they've brought through these
situations hundreds of times before.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, a lot in this case is.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know an example that necessarily having a gun in
the house isn't going to save you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right, District Attorney Nathan Hockman is with us. You know,
before you came into office, my wife and I seriously
talk about moving out of Los Angeles, And when you
came in, it was a big sigh of relief in
our house that there might be somebody now in charge,
an adult in charge, and this city might be able
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to turn around and save itself. I think a lot
of people in LA feel that exact same way about
you being the district Attorney and no longer George Gascombe.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, and I very much appreciate it. You know, this
job is sort of, you know, one of the greatest
honors a lawyer in our community could ever have to
be able to serve the public. And what I did
from day one is I re establish sort of a
regime of accountability for criminals. I basically got rid of
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gas Gone special directives that said certain crimes and certain
criminals would no longer be prosecuted notwithstanding the facts and
the evidence. So, for instance, you know juveniles who were
committing misdemeanors, which are people under eighteen, for instance, stealing
just under nine hundred and fifty dollars. He had a
special directive they would not be prosecuted gang members engaged
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in violent crimes. He refused to allow his prosecutors to
bring the gang enhancement, which for thirty years had worked
by assessing additional years of prison to a gang member
engaged in a violent crime to basically cripple criminal streakings.
All that was gone for four years, and criminals got
used to being arrested in the morning and out by
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the after noon, or not getting arrested at all, or
getting a relative slap on the wrist for a whole
variety of crimes that they otherwise had been held accountable for.
So from day one I got rid of and rescinded
all nine of Gascon's special directors, and as importantly, I
re established the trust with my own prosecutors. You know
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these prosecutors again, incredibly talented group of people. They voted
ninety eight percent to support Gascon's recall. Wow. So I
worked very hard to re establish the aspree de corps
in the DA's office. Translated that over to law enforcement.
GASCON had been more interested in prosecuting law enforcement than
partnering with them. I've told law enforcement that the DA's
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office is open for business again. Bring us great cases
with tons of evidence, and we will give a fair
shot to every one of those cases. Having my taken
the political agenda off the table and gone back to
the facts and the law the argument as well to
victim groups. Victim groups have felt abandoned by George Gascon.
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I've showed up for their meetings. I've talked to their
leaders and I said, look, the DA's office has to
be the champion of victims in the system. A defendant
gets their own defense attorney, there's a judge, there's a jury,
But who represents the victims if not the DA's office.
So I've re established that role, that key role that
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the DA's office plays in the system to make sure
it is the champion of victims in every court in
which there is a victims situation.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Taking these thank you, I mean it's been it's been
a great, great opportunity to get in office that is
one of the premier DA's offices in the nation back
on track, re establish that partnership with both victims and
law enforcement. And then there's a fourth group that I've
taken my messages too. That's the criminals. I've told the
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criminals that look, you had four years of funding games,
lack of accountability, but that's over. And it doesn't mean
I'm going to go ahead and replace gascon decarceration which
is what he called it, with mass incarceration. Both political
philosophies aren't anchored in the facts and the law. What
I've instituted is what I call the hard work middle
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or the hard middle approach, because it actually takes a
lot of work to look at each case individually, the
individual defendant and their background, the crime committed, and the
impact on the victim to determine who the truth threats
are to our public safety. And those are often the
repeat offenders who have to be behind bars, and is
importantly the ones that aren't. The first time non violent
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offender still has to pay a debt back to society
for violating society's laws. But that's where non prison alternatives
in that class of cases come to play, whether it's
community service, restitution, pay it back. If you saw something
where if you have a serious drug addiction, they got
you to do the crime, We'll give you an opportunity
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for a diversion program. It gives you a choice. You
can go to prison, or you can do an eighteen month,
one day at a time, rigorous rehab program that if
you succeed, we'll give you a certificate and we'll wipe
that crime off your record. That is what a proportional,
common sense, hard middle approach looks like. That we've been instituting.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's great. DA A district attorney for La County, Nathan Hofkman,
is with us. Let's now talk about the horrible, you know,
attempted murder that happened on Friday night, late last Friday night,
where a guy who's thrown out of the Vermont Club Ramirez,
then allegedly turns around and drives his car into thirty
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seven people. Should that guy have been off the streets?
Is that something that if you know, if you were
the DA over the last you know, four to six
eight years instead of just you know, a year and
a half or so, is that somebody who may not
have been on the streets.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, you know, we charged a pending case that he
had out of Orange County, a twenty twenty two domestic
violence case that is still pending, you know, has not
been resolved. I had that case been resolved and had
been sentenced on that case. He very well could may
not have been there this prior weekend to basically use
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his car as a plow as he was going down
a sidewalk taking out thirty seven people. And God love it.
Then thank God that nobody actually got killed. Miracle, not
for any good driving on this part. Is truly a
miracle that people suffered obviously serious situations, broken bones, fractures, lacerations,
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but even the person who was underneath his car didn't
end up dying. Wow, So that is a small miracle.
And by the way, the work of our first responders,
over one hundred firefighters and police at like two am
in the morning descend into East Hollywood. They do triage
and treatment in a way that is just incredible. They
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got thirty seven people to a hospital. Again, eight of
them were suffering from these great bodily injuries and nobody dies.
So my hack goes off to the incredible work that
our first responders did in this situation.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
And again we're talking to Nathan Hofkman, District Attorney of
County of Los Angeles. What is this kid? And I
imagine he's a kid. I heard he's in his twenties,
maybe early thirties. What is he looking at? Is he
looking at life in prison without the possibility of parole
for this act.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So it's a tempted murder, and we charge him with
one count of attempted murder and one count of assault
with a deadly weapon, that being in the car for
each of the thirty seven victims. So that's thirty seven
counts of attempted murder, thirty seven counts of assault with
the deadly weapons. All these charges carry life sentences. Now
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it's not life without the possibility of parole. That's reserved
for a death penally. I mean, excuse me, a first
degree murder with special circumstances type of situation. But he
easily could get multiple life sentences. In fact, we would
seek all thirty seven life sentences against him. So will
this guy get parole in his lifetime? You know one
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would would very much hope no. But I can't speak
for the California State legislature and what they might do
in the future.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
It is that's it's a breath of fresh air. I
can't imagine how Gascon would have treated this guy. But
are you I bet when when you go to the
office I imagine on a daily basis, some of the
district attorneys, some of the attorneys that you have in
the office probably come up to you, if not on
a daily basis, on a weekly and tell you about
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how the morale is picked up in the in your office.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know, people have been very kind. They share with
me that they're enjoying doing the job again, and I
share with them and give them my appreciation because these
are folks that work late into the weekday, night, they
work on weekends. The stress level when you're in trial,
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when you've got the responsibility of the victims and their
entire family counting on you to make sure that you
can convict the person that hurt their loved one. I mean,
this is a stressful, exhausting, but exhilarating job. And so
every time they say anything nice to me, I return
it immediately and say thank you for the great service
(19:48):
that you have rendered to discounting that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I'm glad you're in the office. You know you may
have been asking yourself. You know, you're on with John Colebell,
and John was very instrumental in trying to help you
get elected, and you didn't really hear from this show
or from me, and I'll tell you why every politician
we've ever had on our show has lost in dramatic
fashion twenty forty points.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I'd be happy to break that curse or that streak.
Is it a pleasure to be on your show. I've
heard your show for years. You do a great job,
and I very much appreciate being.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
On, Buddy, I really appreciate coming on, and I can't
tell you how great it is to have another to
have a guy in there who understands the victims are
the priority and not these criminals.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well again, I've been to groups that you never want
to be part of. Parents for Murdered Children, Justice for
Murdered Children, either mothers and actually some fathers, but mostly
mothers who run these organizations that have taken incredibly tragic griefs,
situations of having a son or a daughter murdered and
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created these incredible support groups that when someone sadly has
to enter that that organization or that club, they embrace
and they wrap their arms around them. They show them
that there can be, you know, some ray of light
out there in the world. Still they channel that energy
into hopefully preventing these type of murderers from ever getting
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out and hopefully not even committing these type of crimes
in the first place. So again, it's it's been an
honor to be able to be the champion of these groups.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Again, fantastic. I appreciate you coming on. Keep up the
great work. And hopefully you never see my photo on
your desk.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
If I see it, I'll put it in a frame
and stare at it every day. Great thoughts. Uh, that's
the only way I'll see your photo on my desk.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Thank you, So I appreciate it. Fantastic, good luck and
keep up the hard work.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Thanks again.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Here this is great Nathan Hawkman, District Attorney of La County.
We've got a guy back in office who is going
to give a voice to the victims and is going
to go after these hardened criminals. And he said it.
He says, you know, he's not going after a guy
who steals something for the first time or a guy
who's selling drugs for the first time. He's going to
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give those people a chance, give me eighteen months of
a diversion program, and if they successfully you know, uh,
survive and pass the diversion program, that their record is
going to be wipe clean. So he's fair. But if
you're a hardened criminal in Los Angeles, the gascon days
are over and so you got to straighten up. It's
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time to leave the crime behind and get yourself a gig.
Start paying your bills like everybody else, all those other
losers out here.
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man or not young man. I guess we graduated high
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Advancedhair dot com. All right, we had the fire earlier
on the seventy one freeway was closed. Angel Martine is
the sweetest voice in talk radio.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Any update, Well, they are out there with the freeway
shutdown still. This is both directions of the seventy one,
between the ninety one and Butterfield Ranch euclid. But Coltrans
is on the scene. They're getting that left lane reopened
in both directions for travel now. Currently all the firefighters.
(24:52):
I'm looking at a live shop right now and I'm
still seeing a lot of fire trucks out along the
seventy one. It looks like northbound is maybe the first
side to open because we have a lot of fire
trucks still on the southbound.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Side northbound seventy one from the ninety one.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yes, yes, it's not open yet. They're still working on
getting that left lane reopen. They're doing a little bit
of cleanup, but they're in the process of doing that
as we speak, and I will let you know as
soon as it starts rolling.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Thank you, Angel Martinez Proje. I got a question for you.
I want to I want to add to a San
Bernardino on Monday night, Sunday night, Monday night, I don't
remember what night it was, right, I think it was
Sunday night, and I drove back westbound two ten from
San Bernardino to Burbank right, and I felt like I
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was off roading. The amount of potholes and chunks of
freeway that are missing from that freeway westbound two ten,
especially through Pasadena or through Arcadia and then Pasadena, is unbelievable. Yeah, yeah,
they it's it is.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I always look at it as.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
On my way home because it does have a carpool lane,
but it's not like the newer one. I think it's
like the one of the most neglected freeways in the
south Land. It has to be for updates and things
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
And you know, there's an incredible volume on that on
that freeway, you know, and you know it's the the
alternate to the ten Freeway. I remember, you know, for
many many years, did you live out there when that
two ten didn't you exist?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I did?
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I I so when it ended at Foothill, the Foothill
at Foothill Boulevard right there at Glendora Laburne sort of
line there. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I remember them opening that freeway and a half hour
after they opened it, it was bumpered, bumpered traffic.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, well it took We had a we had a
nice little grace period where people hadn't really discovered yet
a special especially people come from like the Home Pass.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
They were still going down to the ten.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
But after like two years and all of a sudden,
it everybody realized, oh yeah, now it's just it's horrendous
pretty much. And you know that area, especially around Santa Anita,
which is right east of Pasadena, and they're always doing
work on the sound barrier wall always always, but the
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freeway itself they don't really touch too much.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, I've also noticed that they but I will say
this of that freeway, the two ten Freeway from about
Glendale all the way to where it ends out near
Yama Vah. The shoulders of that freeway are always beautifully landscaped,
you know. I mean they have trees and it looks
nice always.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I'm always fascinated by when you're driving through specific towns
because I think they have the regulation of what they
do on the sides there on the show, I didn't
know that. Yeah, depending on depending on the city, they
control kind of what they do. Because if you go
through Claremont, to me, it's like the ugliest landscaping there.
And Claremont is also it goes down. The two ten
goes down below the level of the rest of the
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of the ground around it, which is nice for noise
sunken Yeah. Yeah, it is especially for me who my
back in my backyard the wall is the freeway, so
that definitely helps, and it also helps with fires and stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, and I will say this of you know Burbank
as well. I told this to a guy who works
in Burbank and know what his capacity is, But I said,
you know when when you when you go to Burbank
or you leave Burbank, the first thing you see when
you come into Burbank, and the last thing you see
when you leave Burbank, for ninety percent of the people
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are the freeway on ramps and off ramps. Yeah, why
wouldn't we make them nice? So people as the last
you know, the last vision they have a Burbank is beautiful,
or the first vision that they have at Burbank is beautiful.
Why are they filled with trash and dead plants and
you know, and it's and weeds and half the time.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
What's odd about that is is that it seems like
once a week, right around Thursday midday, as I'm coming in,
they've got the street sweepers on the shoulders. So it's
like they're they're apparently frequently cleaning them, but they're always filthy.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, they need do landscaping. And I'm willing to work.
You know, I'll get my hands dirty. I'll get out
there and pick up trash on an off ramp one
of those signs that says kept up by Tim, that's right.
I would do. I would dedicate a Saturday, you know,
two saturdays a month to getting out there and cleaning
the freeway on ramps and off ramps. I think it's
important for a city to have nice, clean freeways when
(29:19):
you drive a cross country and you see how other
cities that, yeah, the sides of their freeways on the
shoulders is stuff completely beautifully manicured. Yeah, it's it's a
little bit frustrated to see it out here. But when
I first started driving, when I was sixteen, they were
all beautiful freeways out here, every one of them. The
ice plant with the flowers, the ivy, the you know,
the pine trees, the oak trees. It was, it was
(29:40):
the you know, eucalypt trees. They were spectacular. And now
you know, there's no money in California, so they're all neglected. Yeah,
and it and it really is an eye sore because
you know, there are many there are millions of people
that will never ever go to Upland or Clare Mount,
but those millions of people passed through it on the
freeway and they want to They want to see that,
(30:00):
you know that that your hometown and it and it
ups the property values as well that it's kept up nice.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Maybe maybe that's part of the strategies to keep it
dumpy looking so that they don't they don't have a
bunch of people coming through their town. Maybe maybe you
don't want to get off, and it's like, oh, we
don't want them stopping here.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah enough people here a crappy part of town. They
can't stop here.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Clarmon's notorious for that.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We don't want more people, Yeah, Madge, let's keep driving this.
Claremont is horrible now, but I think freeway on ramps
and off ramps should be beautiful. It's the last thing
and the first thing that people see of your city.
So I'm I'm will willing to volunteer. If anybody else
is in Burbank, call me you know you were, you know,
send up an email here and I'll jump on that.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
Forty if you went to the Dodger game this afternoon.
They played the Minnesota Twins and they won. In the
bottom of the ninth Dodgers had I don't know if
it was basis loaded. I think it's a man on
second and third and Freddie Friedman up two outs. All
they had to do is get Freddy Freeman out and
the Twins win the series two to one. But the
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ball was hitded too left field. The left field who
had a shot. If he caught it, game's over and
he missed it. Two runs score and the Dodgers win
with a walk off single in the bottom of the ninth,
And that's very indicative of a team that goes on
to win the World Series. When you win those tight
(31:29):
games at home, that's a big deal. So if you
went to the Dodger game today, congratulations and you stayed
to the bottom of the ninth, you saw a huge
celebration on the field with your Los Angeles Dodgers beating
the Twins four to three the final at Dodger Stadium,
Ding dong with those Dodgers all right.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Now, now we have the Los Angeles Times in the news.
The owner is taking the paper public. So you can
pick up a copy of the Times, you can become
a subscriber of the Times, and you can own part
of the La Times.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
See Los Angeles Times will become a publicly traded company.
Billionaire owner doctor Patrick soon Chiong made the announcement yesterday
on the Daily Show.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Important for the paper to have voices of all and
that's what I wanted to do, right, whether you right, left, Democrat, Republican,
you an American. So the opportunity for us to provide
a paper there's the voices of the people, truly the
voices of the people. So I'm going tonunce something with
you tonight, is that that we literally take La Times
the public and allowed to be democratized and allowed the
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public to have the ownerships of this paper.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Wow, that's there, you go, the La Times now pub Well,
it's going to be publicly traded and you could buy
into it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I think he bought The Times and the San Diego Tribune.
I think it's five hundred or five hundred and fifty
million dollars. I don't know what portion, what percentage of
that public of that paper is going to be a
public by interesting, interesting, it may save that paper. They've
had a lot of layoffs, a lot of cutbacks, and
now when they go public, they'll be in there'll be
(33:14):
a lot more cash initially, so they might be able
to hire new reporters, more investigative work. Maybe we'll keep
an eye on downtown Los Angeles and see what happened
to the three and a half billion dollars it was
supposed to be spent on homeless people and where that
money went. Maybe we can we can hope. I guess
I go way back with the La Times. I love
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the La Times. I used to go to the beach
with my buddies and we took the beach bus. It
would pick us up on Balboa and Ventura, go to Sepulva,
then to Westwood and then there was three buses and
then to the Santa Monica. And I would always bring
the sports page with me. And while my buddies were
talking to girls on the beach and playing in the
(34:00):
sand and swimming and I don't know, playing frisbee, I
was reading Jim Murray's column from the La Times as
a seventh grader. It's pretty hot. Huh.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Probably we're in black socks with sandals too.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I did wear socks with my shoes, not black, but
I did wear shoes and socks on the sand. And man,
you're right about How did you know that the people
made fun of me for that? I don't think I've
ever told you that. Is that just a guess, just
a guess, just a wild guess. Huh. Yeah, I'm not
a big sand with the bare feet guy. I don't
like that. I like to wear tennis shoes with big
(34:41):
woolf socks. Woolf. That's right, all right, Hershey's is gonna
raise the price. This is not good news for you
people out there. When we come back, we'll talk about that.
And I was inspired by the Petros Money Show. They
have a hot dog steamer, and I said to Matt
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