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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's k IF. I am six forty and you're listening
to The Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
It is the Conway Show and it's Friday on with you. Yeah,
all right, time to fly around here a little bit
roll around. And first of all, we got a lot
(00:21):
of news to get to. There's been a shake up
in the in politics with Robert Robert Kennedy Junior RFK Junior,
and so we'll get into that a little bit. But
first we start with Alex Stone. Alex, how you bubb
Happy Friday?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Tim?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I love that. I love that term. Hey, alast Airlines
is in the news. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, the pilot remember this guy from last October, the
pilot who was on shrooms and tried to take down
the plane when they were going people on board, yeah
San Francisco. Yeah, eighty three people on board and they
were flying a lot. And you'll remember that the all
of a sudden, the news came out that this plane
that diverted, that it was a pilot who was in
the cockpit who tried to bring.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Down the plane.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
That was the allegation, and that the pilot's radioed in
who were flying that they had another pilot in the
cockpit in the jump seat, and that he had gotten
up and tried to kill the engines, and they.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Radioed in, got the guy that tried to shut the
injury down the cockpit, and then.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
They diverted to Portland. But that pilot to him, Joseph Emerson,
he was no longer is was in Alaska Airlines Bowing
seven thirty seven captain who was flying home to also
fly out of his base in San Francisco from Everett
after he had gone on a trip up there, and
he told police in that moment that he had been
taking psychedelic mushroom, has been depressed that a buddy of
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his had died. He had been dealing with trying to
get over it, but could not report it to anybody
because he would lose his flying license as.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Pilot's license, so why not take the plane down?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Well, so, yeah, he'd been dealing with it anyway. He's
talking to us now for the first time publicly and
explaining what went on. He's facing eighty four charges and
sitting down with his wife and they're telling us this.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Sarah and I would like our story to be of
some value, right we think it tells the larger story
on pilot health.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So he says he was in the shruman.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
He was sitting, yeah, sitting behind the two pilots who
were flying riding in the jump seat, and in that
moment nothing felt real, that he felt like he was
in a dream.
Speaker 8 (02:25):
He had no control. He had taken shrooms two days earlier.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Wow, but now and anybody who's taking troom's going to
tell you two days later he shouldn't still be tripping
on him. Although doctors say there is a condition that
can extend it over several days, that maybe he has
a they don't know, but anyway, he says he felt
like he was in a dream, had no control.
Speaker 7 (02:44):
There was a feeling of being trapped, like am I
trapped in this in this airplanet?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
This is not real? I mean to we go.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So he says that he was hallucinating. He stood up,
pulled the handles meant to shut off the engines if
there were a fire.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
On board, and didn't get them pulled all the way down.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
There two handles up in the ceiling that you got
to pull to get them out of there. And as
he was going for them and getting them out, the
flying pilots grabbed his hands and ripped them off, and
then he says.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
What I thought is this is going to wake me up.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
I know what those levers do in a real airplane, right,
and I need to wake up from this. That's thirty
six in my life. I wish it could change, and
I can't serve. The pilots react to the difficult situation
that I just handed and I said, you guys want
me off the flight deck. I'm off the flight deck.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
And they said, yeah, we want you off the flight deck.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Get out of here. We want you off the plane.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, go out that. Well, that's the other thing. So
he tried to apparently go out the door. So he
went out of the cockpit and then they were at altitude.
Tried to grab the handle of the emergency exit door.
He says, a flight attendant jumped in and.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Put my hand on the lever. I didn't operate the lever.
Speaker 7 (03:47):
She put her hand on my and I think around
that period is when I said I don't understand what's real.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I need you to tough cuff me.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And so she put him into flexibus right then. But
his wife says that she got this text message from
him only saying, I made a big mistake and she
looked at a flight tracking app and could see they
were diverting and had an emergency, and she started freaking out,
not knowing what it was. But so he says that
this all goes back to the way the ideation industry
works is if you say you've got anxiety and rashia,
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that's the problem, and that he did not want to
report it, so we turned alcohol, then turned to shrooms,
and so he says, look that they've got to revisit
this because pilots and air traffic controllers that they are
running the skies secretly hiding that they've got these issues.
Speaker 8 (04:37):
And then he says he wants that to change.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Right now, there's a perception out there that if you
raise your hand and say something's not right, there's a
very real possibility that you don't fly again.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So he says he feels like he's got this mission
now tim to get out there and try to change
things to allow people to get treatment and maybe get
back into it.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
He put it this way, I think if pilots and
controllers were obtain a proper diagnoe being a proper course
of treatment, and if they're safe in that course of treatment. Right,
keep pilots controllers undergoing treatment who are safe on the job.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think that's a better system.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
But he says, right now the pilots people are hiding it.
They don't want to lose their job. They don't want
their family to look at them that way, they don't
want to let Some of them are making three four
dollars a year. They don't want to walk away from that.
So he's calling for changes.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know, there's a there's a symptom that I.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Investigated this long time ago because shrooms were popular in
the like the seventies and eighties, and I had three
buddies that did him, and I took him to the
racetrack and that was a mistake. But it's called largo shromoh. Shromoh,
I mean long time shrooms, anything over twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Largo shromoh is an old term.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
Are those the expensive ones that you get?
Speaker 7 (05:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't know if the expensive ones are not.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
But I took three buddies to the racetrack and they
all did shrooms. I'll drive my mom's station wagon quite
a day, by the way, and look at that dragon
flying it over the no, but they on the way
to Hollywood Park. They must have asked me five hundred times, Uh, hey,
why did we take these things? They don't work? Why
do we take these things? They don't work? They don't work,
they don't work. Then bang, they hid and they and
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they we think. I take them to the racetrack and
all three of them come up and they and they're
pissed at me, and like, hey, you said we're going
to the racetrack. I said, where do you think we are?
And you said you said we're going to the horse races.
I said that's where we are. He goes, no, there's
pigs out on that track.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Tim.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Those pigs aren't flying, but they're sure running.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And then they saw this kid asked for an ice
cream and the dad said no, and they all broke
down crying, and I took them home and they were
they cried all the way back to the valley.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Guys, doesn't sound like any fund had ice cream.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Like, I can't wait to drop these tree idiots off God.
But you know that guy's onto something.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You remember the German airline that the guy the mountain, Yeah,
that was a suicide and he ended up killing what remember.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Blue pilot who freaked out number years ago, came out.
They pulled him out of the cockpit. He was screaming
and whatnot. Maybe fifteen years ago, ten years ago. This
is a real issue. But but they got a debate.
Is it better for people to hide it? And no,
it's better to come forward it or come clean and
have a way to get over it. But then you
know people are up there with mental health issues and
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maybe on meds.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I always look at the pilots and I can eyeball
them and see if they got mental problems.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm pretty look at that.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
I'm going, I don't know about that guy.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I keep an eye on that guy over there.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, but it's kind of like a blood pressure meds
or cholesterol. They can take those and then be cleared
to fly. So should they be able to take anxiety
medication and get up there in the cockpit.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But it is remarkable how freely we get on a
plane and surrender our lives to the two guys in
front who we've never met.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
You know, it's especially you know who they are, they were,
what kind of day they're.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know, if they just got divorced, if their wife
left them, you know, something happened to their kids.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
But I've ordered a plane one time at Burbank Airport
and pilot came out and just berated a woman for
being scared of flying. And he was early in the morning,
and everybody looked and went wow. And he went back
to the cockpit and flew. But you have that moment
where you're going, I know, this guy is angry, and
he's the captain, and he's angry because she's scared and
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wants to get off.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
And so yeah, they have bad days too, but you
don't want to be on board.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'll tell you quick story here. I know we got
to take a break.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, I was flying with Harvey Korman, my dad up
to Reno to they're going to do a show up there.
And Harvey gets on the plane and he says hi
to the two stewardesses back then flight attendants now and
this is you know, late nineties, early two thousands, and
he was talking him for a while, very pleasant. They
remember the Krabernet show, asking him about it, and then
he said he said, hey, where are the pilots because
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the cockpit was empty, And the two women look at
him and say, oh, we're the pilots, and he said, okay,
nice to meet both of you off the plane.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Oh, I think it's that's how that's how it's supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Now, that's that's how it goes. And got Yeah, it
was a different era back then. He said, I'll catch
you on the next one. And we stayed on the plane.
We didn't care. My dead and I didn't care. But
he took the next flight. It got in two hours later.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
You know what, as long as we did, pilots.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And I asked him, I said, I said, why does
that bother you? He said, he goes, Tim.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
If this plane is going down, I want guys pushing
and pulling every lever until they hit the mountain.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
They can push them pull, I know, but I didn't
want a woman yelling into a microphone.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Tell my husband I love him, you know. All right, buddy,
appreciate you coming on. Everybody ding dong with that guy.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
A M six forty.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It is Friday, ding dong. All right.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
We got a lot to get to, including Robert F.
Kennedy RFK Junior suspending his presidential bid and I don't
want to get into the politics of it. I don't
like when people jump ship. I don't like when Republicans
become Democrats or democrats it's become Republicans.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I don't know how you do that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know, your whole life, you're heavily entrenched in one party,
and then you snap and you go to the other party.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I don't know. I don't like it either way, I
really don't.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But so take the politics out of this just for
a second, if we can, because there's a bigger issue
that Robert Kennedy is talking about, Robert rfk Junior is
talking about, and it's the health of children. This is
an issue that both campaigns should be on. Kamala Harris
should be on it. Donald Trump should be on it
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as well. The obesity in this country is off the charts.
About fifty years ago, it was less than one percent
of kids in the country World Peace, and now it's
sixty seven percent.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's not going the right direction. I don't blame the
kids at all.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I blame the food that they're eating and the choices
that they're making. The parents aren't great. I'm one of them.
I'm not great with the choices that my daughter makes,
and and I'm you know, I'm I'm probably the typical parent.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, when your kid's born. Crozier, you probably went
through this.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
When your kid is born, you say no fast food,
only great food, and then like two weeks into it,
you're like, Okay, maybe shoul get a McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
What I thought was there?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, you try, you try, you know, sometimes you
make it. Most of the time you don't.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
You got a whole list of stuff that you're like,
don't do this, do this right. Some stuff you can
hold on too. In other words, go by the wayside
in the day or two. That's right, And it doesn't
make you a bad person. It just you know, it
is so complicated.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Look, when you need a license to go fishing, you
need a license to drive, you need a license to fly,
you need a lot of you know, there's a lot
of areas in this world. You need a license to
practice medicine, to practice law. You know, there's a lot
of areas where you need to be educated in life.
But man, when you have a kid, they don't give
you any handbook at all.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You know, there are all the books out there.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Yeah, I read a bunch of them, And I don't
know where those books are now, and they weren't living.
But but you don't know what you know, there are
a lot of books out there generalities, right, but you
don't know which one is true and which one is false,
which one makes sense, which one doesn't.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A lot of them do contradict each other.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, like in flying, there's only really one way to fly.
That's you know, to get from point A to point
B successfully.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, when you do a fishing license, you know, you
either catch fish or you don't. And you know, there's
not a lot of books on how to do it.
You know, there's a lot of old guys that know,
you know, tell you what kind of bait do youse?
But when you have a kid, nobody there's no handbook
that everyone agrees on on how to raise a child.
Speaker 9 (12:43):
And I will say, if you are a good parent,
you like me. Even on my daughter turning twenty three yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh, happy birthday, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, big
twenty three. Oh that's great.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
But I mean even now I look back on it
and there's so many things that, man, I should have
done this, or why did.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I do that? Yeah, you still if you care. That's
half the battle, buddy.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Oh look, I did this, and I can still remember,
and I still get goosebumps when I tell this story.
But I took my daughter to the Santa Barbara Zoo
and I drove up there. Yeah, she was in the
back seat in the car facing forward. It wasn't you know,
she wasn't so young where she was facing backwards. Yeah,
she was facing forward. And I drove her from Santa
Barbara all the way back to our home in the
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San Fernando Valley. I get in the back to take
her out of her car seat because she was asleep.
She was not buckled in. Oh and you still think
about that to this I still think of that every day.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yep, every day. Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
When I took her out of the car, Thank god
her mom didn't see that. I drove back with her
on the freeway, sometimes doing seventy seventy five, maybe occasionally eighty.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
She was not buckled in right that I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I couldn't believe that that happened, because any kind of
accident it's over, you know, she would have been flying
out of the car or in the car. It would
have been my fault. I would have never gotten over it. Look,
I barely got I've gotten over not buckling or in
on that trip.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
What the video that came out, what was it just
a few days ago about the guy who had the
crash and the jeep. Oh yeah, two kids and they
flew out in diapers, in diapers. Yeah, he didn't have
them buckled in, right, and they're and they're walking around
like they you know, they like they owned the joint. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But but anyway, let me come back and play you
a little again. Nothing new with politics. I just like
what he's talking about about kids and about the food
in this country. And he said, here's a quote from
RFK Junior. He said, back one hundred and twenty years ago,
if you had a kid, you know, it was a
nine ten year old kid who weighed two hundred pounds,
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he said, you would send them off to the circus.
And he and he wasn't joking, you know, he said,
that's what happened to, you know, kids who are nine
years old and weigh two hundred and fifty pounds. And
the over the obesity problem in this country is an epidemic.
And it's not the people, it's not the kid's fault.
I'm not blaming I'm not shaming the kids and blaming
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the kids. I'm blaming me, society, parents, food, chemicals, fast food,
crappy food, all that stuff that it's adding up, and
we're not going in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
We're not going in the right direction. We all want
to make the best decision for our kid.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And this is going to be a tremendous problem in
the near future if it isn't already. The amount of
diabetes out there for kids, type one diabetes or type two,
and the amount of of you know, of kids dying
early and getting cancer early, all this stuff. We've got
to both campaigns, you know, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They've got to focus on this.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
This is we're killing our kids, killing them slowly, but
killing him.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KF
I am six.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Forty all right, RFK Junior talking about children's health. He
suspended his campaign today, not in all states, in some
of the battle or ten of the battleground states. But
I think I don't think this helps Donald Trump as
much as everyone thinks. Politically, I think the people are
backed RFK JR. A lot of them hate Donald Trump,
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and so half of them, I think are going to
go to Harris and half of them to Donald Trump.
So I don't think it's a big win for Donald
Trumps as much some people think it is. But just
three weeks ago, I was listening to RFK Junior and
he said something pretty good. He said, you know, in
Donald Trump's first term as president, he was there for
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four years and he always told everybody, Who's going to
drain the swamp?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And he said, but.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The guys that are here, he's putting in of the FCC,
the FAA, the head of the you know, the you know,
the Pentagon. All these guys that are that are going
to be in the head of commerce. All these guys
are going to put in RFK goes. Those are swamp creatures.
Those are swamp creatures. It's such a great term. You know,
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these guys who have worked their ass off their entire life,
they're making, you know, seventeen million dollars a year working
for a company, and they're reduced to swamp creatures. It
really is a great term. All right, let me play
some audio here. This is Rfkge're and you're talking about
children's health. It's extremely important. I hope both candidates do it.
(17:39):
I hope Kamala Harris does it, and I hope Donald
Trump does it as well, because we are going to
lose an entire generation of kids unless we can straighten
this out.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
They're obese.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The childhood obesity rate in this country is fifty percent
five zero fifty percent. You know what is in Japan
less than three right around three percent in Japan, the
United States fifty one out of every two. We can't
sustain this. So here he is talking about children and
their problem with food.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
Today, two thirds pay We spend more on healthcare than
any country on Earth, twice what they pay in Europe,
and yet we have the worst health outcomes of any
nation in the world, or about seventy ninth and health
outcomes behind Costa Rica and Nicaragua and Mongoli and other countries.
(18:34):
Nobody has a chronic disease burden like we have. And
during the COVID epidemic, we have the highest body count
of any country in the world. We have sixteen percent
of the COVID deaths and we only have four point
two percent of the world's population.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You hear that we had sixteen percent of COVID deaths worldwide,
and we have four percent of the population.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's not good.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
And that's because we are the sickest people on Earth.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, I think we are. I think we're the sickest
nation on Earth, and I don't know what to do
about it.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
The highest chronic disease rate on Earth. And the average
American who died COVID had three point eight chronic diseases.
So these were people immune SYSM collapse.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I gotta say, though, man, we go for it in
this country. Whether it's sports, whether it's you know, politics,
whether it's you know, fighting the you know, any of
the wars we fought, this country goes for it. And
when it comes to food, we go for it. We
enjoy it. We enjoy eating. We love the convenience of
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fast food. I probably enjoy it more than anybody listening
right now. I think I probably eat more fast food
than anybody listening right now.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I love it.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
Who had mitochondrial dysfunction and no other country has anything
like this. Two thirds of American adults and children suffered
from chronic health issues. Fifty years ago, that number was
less than one percent. Oh, we've gone from one percent
to sixty six percent in America, seventy four percent of
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Americans are now overweight or obese, and fifty percent of
our children. One hundred and twenty years ago, when somebody
was obese, they were they were sent to the circus.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
How about that line, one hundred and twenty years ago,
if somebody was obese, they were sent to the circuits. Circuits.
You know, hey, Billy, I got good news. Do you
remember how much you liked the circus? Yeah, you're joining it? Ah, thanks, Mom.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Were literally there were case reports not about them obese
that he was almost unknown. In Japan, the childhood obese
rate is three percent compared to fifty percent a year.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (20:59):
Half of American have pre diabetes or type two diabetes.
When my uncle was president I was a boy, juvenile
diabetes was effectively nonexistent. A typical pediatrician would see one
case of diabetes during his entire career, a forty or
fifty year career. Today, one out of every three kids
who walks through his office door is diabetic or pre diabetic.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Again, is that unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Did a doctor would practice for thirty forty years see
one child with juvenile diabetes?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
One child?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And now a third of the people of third of
the kids that he sees have it.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
The mitochondrial disorder that cause diabetes, also causing Alzheimer's which
is now classified as diabetes, and it's causing this country
more than our military budget. Every year. There's been an
explosion of neurological illnesses that I never saw as a kid.
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Add ADHD speech language lay to Redson from arcolepsi asc
astridges autism.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Wow.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
And the year two thousand, the autism rate was one
in fifteen hundred. Now autism race and kids are one
in thirty six according to CDC Nashley right.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It was one in fifteen hundred with autism, now it's
one in thirty six.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
We've got to put this together. This is not going
in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
This country may not be around in three or four
generations if we keep going down this road.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
I don't doubt the numbers are much higher now than
they were in the past. Yeah, I do wonder.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
About the.
Speaker 9 (22:40):
The actual saying that them being able to identify autism
in kids back then.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I think you're right there there probably were more
kids that are autistic and they you know.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Me diagnosed or not diagnosis at all.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, when I was growing up, you know, if somebody
had it, and I'm and I'm sure kids in my
class had it, if not me personally, you know, I
was diagnosed with probably Aspergers, but he was just we
were just told that we were.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Slow well and even to point to him himself.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
R K.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Junior's aunt was she was putting a mental institution. She
was just a small child and she was in there
for her entire life. She had multiple brain surgeries and
all that stuff. I wonder if they look at the
science and the medicine of it now what she would
have been diagnosed back then.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah. No, I think you're right.
Speaker 9 (23:26):
I don't doubt one bit like the numbers that he's
saying that they're much higher now than they were then.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And you know, we talked about this yesterday the German
tourists that came over and he said that, you know,
the fifteen fascinating things he noticed about America, and one
of them was how big people are?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
You know, people are huge. There is no doubt about that. Yeah,
and you see it all the time. And it's not
their fault, man, was it? Gary? We really let him down.
Gary Shannon said that, you know, being in Chicago.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
They got a nice little taste of the average size
of people in Midwest like that.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, I think in the Midwest it's even worse than
out here because out here, you know, you can you
can cycle and work out and play tennis all year round.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
And it's people much more conscious about right.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But in Chicago, you can't go outside and exercise in
December or January.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You die and the food is.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
All yeah, it's forty below, you're gonna go play tennis
forty below. It's not gonna happen, all right, But I
think he's got a point, and I think it's really
important as well. Those are really terrible numbers for this country.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We started with Alex Stone.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
He was great, talk about the pilot that was shrooming,
oh Man almost killed the eighty four eighty five people
on the last Airlines. And he's coming out saying, look,
there's mental illness and pilots and they don't want to
talk about it because they're gonna get fired, they're not
gonna be able to fly afterwards, and so they keep
it to themselves.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
And that's how you get it?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Guy in the cockpit trying to shut the engines down
at thirty thousand feet. Speaking of drugs, Matthew Perry comments
about using ketamine.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Let's find out what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Kennamine felt like a giant exhale. I would disassociate see things.
Oh there's a horse over there, fine, might as well
be Matthew.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
This is Matthew Perry. That's where that's in his own.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Words too, from the book, he wrote, Kennamine felt like
a giant exhale. I would disassociate see things. Oh there's
a horse over there, fine, might as well be.
Speaker 11 (25:27):
Matthew Perry's comments about ketamine resurfacing in the wake of
arrests and shocking details from the Friend Star's death investigation.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I'm drawing to characters that set out to improve themselves.
Speaker 11 (25:40):
Perry, getting candid in his twenty twenty two memoir Friends,
Lovers and the Big Terrible Thing.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, he and I have the same acting philosophy. You know,
we're I'm also I also pursue characters that want to
improve themselves, and so I turned down a lot of roles.
Yeah yeah, well croche, you know you know this about me.
(26:06):
But a lot of listeners, don't I do radio to
pay the bills by the silver screen is my first love.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
You say that all the time.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, yeah, just couldn't make a living at it, so.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Sucks.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
So also you loved it, but it just didn't love
you that. I didn't love me, No, no, not at all.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I was also doing ketamine infusions every.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Day, Wow, every day.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
To ease pain and help with depression. Has my name
written all over it. It might as well have called
it Maddie for Perry.
Speaker 11 (26:40):
At first, ketamine seemed like the long awaited answer to
his mental health struggles, but he said it's psychedelic effects
inspired thoughts about death.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
I would disassociate see things, Oh there's a horse over there.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I I like to get buzzed every once in ang.
I don't like to get really fed up, yep. I
don't like that. I don't like to lose that kind.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Of control, yep.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And that's why I could never You know, when you
drink a beer, you're pretty much you know where the
alcohol content in that beer is, and it's usually between
you know, the difference between maybe three to four or
five percent.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
When I went to college in Frostburg, I was probably
one of the very few people in the entire dorm
that did not do drugs that year.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Is that right?
Speaker 9 (27:24):
Yeah, because I had to think about one. I grew
up around it with my dad and all. But but
it was always a control thing for me. I was
always afraid of not having complete control. And alcohol at
least I felt like I was aware of what was
going on around me, and it just all the other
stuff was yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, Like if you have a beer, if you have
a strong beer, it might be ten percent alcohol. If
you have a weak beer it might be five percent, right,
but there's not a big difference. But if you take
a hit off a joint, you might get buzzed, or,
as Adam Carola said, you might be naked in the
desert in an hour looking for turtles.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah. You never know exactly what it is you're doing.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, you don't know until it's in you, right, and
then it's two and it's I wish. I wish drugs,
you know, like at least pot were more like alcohol,
where you knew how strong it was going to be
and how many hits you were going to take and
all that stuff.
Speaker 9 (28:11):
I had two roommates that that one guy. His nickname
was drugs Wow, because he'd been to rehab already two
or three times in his life at that point. And
they kept sheets of acid in the little mini fridge
in our dorm room.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:24):
And it was just something. I was just like, Hey,
they were cool and all, but that wasn't for me.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You imagine, like, you know, your daughter goes to college
and you find out she has sheets of acid sheets
in the refrigerator, how quickly you'd take her out of
that school. My daughter would be out of that school
before I got there.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Gone doesn't k ran through me. I often thought I
was dying during that hour. Oh, I thought this is
what happens when you're dying.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
But what what kind of fun is that? To get
so high that you think you're dying and then you
want to do that again. I don't get it, man,
I think that's where the sickness comes in.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Yet I would continually sign up for this because it
was something different, and anything different is good. Injecting someone
over and over who you know is in an abusive cycle,
who has a history of addiction is pretty unconstable.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, No, I get that. I get that.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I remember going to the Third Street Promenade with Doug
Steckler and we're with a friend of ours happens to
be a woman or yeah. She was probably I don't know,
maybe thirty at the time, and she got one of
those shroom drinks. You know, it's like, oh right, right right,
you know, you go to one of those health places.
They in a blender, they mix up the I don't
(29:39):
know kind of it's.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Main yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Exactly popular now a lot of the mushroom drinks. And
she took it and she flipped out. You know, an
ambulance was called. You know, they didn't take her away,
but they had to sit her down, give her water,
and she flipped out for like a half hour, and
we finally took her home and made sure she got home.
And then the next day I said, aw, you'll probably
never do that again, and she said, I can't wait
(30:04):
to do it again. And I said, wait, but we
thought you were going to die and she said, I know,
but it was different, and I like things that are different.
And I think that is part of the sickness, you know,
where you think you're going to die, but you're attracted
to that.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't know, but it's.
Speaker 11 (30:20):
What led to Perry's death last year at fifty four
years old.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
So I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I didn't know he was fifty four. I thought he
was older. I thought he was in his sixties. He
was only fifty four.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Wow, mister Perry fell back into addiction, and these defendants
took advantage to profit for themselves.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
While Perry was still receiving prescribed and medically supervised treatments
at the time. Law enforcement says his fatal ketamine doses
were attained via drug dealers and enablers of the well
documented addict.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't know, man, I'm pretty tough when it comes
to this. Look, if his assistant didn't give him the ketamine,
he would have found another assist than to give it
to them. I think you've got to take some responsibility.
I don't like blaming the bartender for overserving you. I
don't like blaming the car manufacturer if you get in
a car wreck. I don't like blaming. I think you've
(31:13):
got to take a lot of responsibility, a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Of respons Yeah, yeah, there's a balance.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
I wouldn't say an equal balance either, but yeah, yeah,
I think you do take a little accountability.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, do you think you do?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
But then again, when you have that kind of sickness
where you take a drug where you think you're going
to die and you can't wait to take it again.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
How are you able to make the most the smartest
decisions for you.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, it's wild, man, It really really. Society is so
effing it really really is.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Every single day you make decisions and you hope they're
the right ones. All right, we're live on KFI AM
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