June 2, 2025 • 33 mins
NEWS WHIP: Flying solo may be more expensive. Wayfarers Chapel may have new home at unused military site // Recent safety tests show some AI models are capable of sabotaging commands or even resorting to blackmail to avoid being turned off or replaced // GUEST: Sandy Steers, Executive Director, Friends of Big Bear Valley an environmental-education nonprofit organization. One of the eaglets, Sunny took a flight this morning at 10:46 and reports she has not returned, and Gizmo is looking for her. // As their policies shift, see how much U.S. airlines are making in checked bag fees
Toddler rescued from baggage conveyor belt at Newark Airport . Close call: Plane makes wrong turn, nearly collides mid-air at SF airport. LAX-Why it can take hours to get through customs at LAX for some unlucky travelers
#EAGLETS #BigBEar #LAX #BaggageFees #Newark
Toddler rescued from baggage conveyor belt at Newark Airport . Close call: Plane makes wrong turn, nearly collides mid-air at SF airport. LAX-Why it can take hours to get through customs at LAX for some unlucky travelers
#EAGLETS #BigBEar #LAX #BaggageFees #Newark
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to The
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's the Whip on the Conway Show. Tim is off
because of illness.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Mark Thompson sitting in on KOFI AM six forty Live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. If you're new to The Whip,
here's how it works. We go around the horn, around
the Whip, We whip around. Everybody on the show has
a news story to share. We will start with Angel Martinez.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All right, here we go. Well, Google DeepMind CEO Demis
Hasibis says that AI will create very valuable jobs. He said,
if I were a student right now, I'd stick to
studying STEM subjects, you know, science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Well,
(00:56):
yesterday he was speaking at south By Southwest London, and
Demis Hassipis said that he expects AI to be a
bigger transformation than the Industrial Revolution, but he's still optimistic
about humans because he said that they're infinitely adaptable, thank goodness,
(01:19):
but also, oh.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Go ahead, no, I just think AI is infinitely adaptable too,
maybe more.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Infinitely absolutely absolutely so. Hasibis and Bryn Brynn is a
co founder a Google co founder, Sergei Brynn. They both
commented that they expect AI to surpass human intelligence around
(01:46):
the year twenty thirty. So that's just around the corner.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's coming up close. I think that's I think it
happened faster.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Of course, I don't know what I'm talking about, but
I'm just saying, based on everything I've read.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I would say it's way past it now, based on
some of the intelligence of a lot of people are.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Totally there is some truth to what Crozier says.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But I was listening to the remarks of a couple
of other technologists and they were saying, like, eighteen months
from now, it should it should have that ability.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But no.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Interesting, Well, well, hal Sabis said that, you know, stay
in school steady stem subjects. He also recommended that people
become experienced and familiar with AI tools.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Do you use AI angel all the time on your traffic?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I mean we've we've all been using it for years
before they started calling it AI. I mean it's autocorrect
on your road processing.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's automatic focus on your pictures. Yeah, I agree, it's
but we're talking about sort of machine learning of the
sort that you know, allows you a kind of interaction,
verbal interaction. Right, you can speak to it, you can
write to it. I mean, it's an amazing tool, but
there is a scary ass back to it. But anyway,
(03:01):
so twenty thirty is when officially the Google minds think
that we'll be looking at it surpassing the human intellect.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That's right, all right, and stay in school.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And school subjects.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, right, that would have been an odd position for
them to take, which essentially AI is going to replace everybody.
So you know, don't sweat school. Yeah, do what you like? Yeah,
lake and bake.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Right, Uh, party on garth Yeah, CROs.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
What do you have for us?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Something that most of us who have ever tried to
fly by ourselves have already found out. But a new
data says the three big US airlines, American, United, in
Delta charge more money to fly if you're flying alone.
The booking site thrifty Traveler says one example from American
recently A listed a flight from North Carolina to Florida
(03:52):
four hundred and twenty two dollars for one person, but
two hundred and sixty six per person if two were
traveling together, and then another one showed to United flight
from Chicago to North Carolina, it was two hundred and
twenty three bucks for one person two hundred and seven
total for two passengers. The study says the pricing structure
was not found on international flight, so it's pretty much
(04:14):
relegated here to the us BA. And since that report,
apparently last week that came out, Delton United have apparently
been charging solo passengers about the same as people in
larger groups. But at last check, American Airlines was still
sticking to its pricing strategy of charging more almost double
in some cases more than double for one person.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's wild, that really is wild.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, there's a lot of fast and loose with when
you book travel, right, I mean they quote you one price,
then you go back on eight minutes later and the
price is higher.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, you know that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's the same thing like a with Ticketmaster and concert tickets.
How they went to the what is it called congestion pricing.
You know that can change it any second depending on
the demand. So you never and that's what's always frustrated
me about airlines and things like that.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's like you can never trust the price.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, and here's where AI works out like eventually, and
it's not even going to be that. Eventually, you'll have
an AI agent, you'll have an AI helper, and that
AI helper will navigate a lot of what we're talking about,
that it'll learn quickly the way around the pricing game.
(05:26):
And then of course they'll have AI that's going to
learn that your AI is learning.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm it sounds like I'm but I'm being serious here.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, that's part of what the head of chat GBT
and the designer of the iPhone when they got together
last week and they made a whole big announcement how
they were working on something that they're calling a possible
iPhone killer because it's all based on AI and it's
not a phone. It's like they're still kind of like
debating what it's going to be, like a just a
little piece of wearable something that will have a little
projector like on your hand or something like this pretty
(05:55):
hand in front of you. But that's essentially what they're saying,
that these things will do it. If they're doing it,
you can order tickets or even door dash just by
pushing a button, say hey, get me some chicken, something
as simple as that. And the AI will do all
of that for you, get me a cheap flight to Dallas.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's apparently and you can see all the ways it's
going to be incredibly revolutionary. But it could solve a
little bit of that problem that you just described. Yeah,
Sharon Balliol.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Chicken sounds good? Can tell oh?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
So so Kel's beloved Wayfarer's Chapel may have found a
new place to call home. The iconic Glass Chapel, famous
for its ocean views and thousands of weddings, was forced
to shut down in twenty twenty four due to dangerous
ground movement beneath it. The site has long dealt with landslides,
but last year the earth was shifting up to seven
inches per week. That left church leaders with a tough
(06:45):
decision disassemble the landmark and search for a safer home.
And they may have found it and then just up
the road at Rancho's Palace Verdes. The new proposed location
is a historic four acre coastguard site near Point Vicente Lighthouse,
right above the Pacific Ocean. The land is currently unused
and the church has shared artistic renderings of what the
(07:05):
new campus could look like, but before anything is built,
they still need to officially secure the site and raise
the funds.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Wow kind of good news, right.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yes, I think that's very good news, really extraordinarily beautiful. Yeah, uh, foush,
what do you have for us?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
So there's been very many ways of people that made pizza,
but have you ever had one that was cooked in
an actual volcano? Owned by chef Mario David Garcia, Pizza
Pakaya opened six years ago on the peak of volcano Pokaia,
one of three act of volcanos in the country. He
was inspired to open this after witnessing tourists cook marshmallows
over the actual volcano. Fortunately, it last erupted in twenty
(07:49):
twenty one and Garcia's only had a deal with Soul
for thus far. But he makes sure to monitor the
bulletins from Guatemala's official Institute for Meteorology daily to ensure
the safety of custom So they, along with corporate team
building groups and wedding parties, now travel from all over
the world for his lava fired slices.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wow, that's pretty exotic. I wonder what they run. Yeah, right,
it doesn't say how much. Not I have a final story,
but uh, we're out of time. So convenient Yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Thank you all? Is that that mails it in? How
dare you?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It was just like, yeah, not here, everybody. We're tirelessly
on this show, and I get this kind of abuse. Outrageous.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from kf
I AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There is a big news out of Big Bear, and
we'll get to that in the next segment. The eglet
and Big Bear. Big news around the eaglet. I just
like saying the word eglit, and so I will tease
that story as long as I can say the word eglit,
and we'll do that story next. I thought it was
(09:10):
interesting here talking about AI in the last segment. You know,
they have major research it goes without saying going on
in this AI area. I mean, you know, remember the
when they were talking about the metaverse and all you
heard about was the metaverse and how Facebook was putting
ten billion dollars into the Metaverse and they're going to
build these sort of alternate reality places. The metaverse is
(09:31):
sort of this this world that exists, it's all virtual,
and it was all about the metaverse. You only heard
about the metaverse, right, I want to say, maybe it
was two and a half years, maybe longer.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
AI.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
The chatter now is all about AI, but this is
real world result that you're seeing immediately. That is to say,
there is no question AI and machine learning is happening
at a rate that is almost literally incalculable, every day,
every hour. These abilities of these machines are increasing and changing,
(10:09):
and they're taking on character of their own, and that's
what this is about. We're talking the last segment about
how AI. It's existed in one form or another, but
now this kind of AI that we can communicate with
and we can even use in our favors, we'll be
able to do all sorts of different tasks for us.
But the most powerful artificial intelligent models today also have
(10:34):
behaviors that mimic this will to survive. So as you
try to do things to these AI machines to even
turn them off, they will resist it. And there've been
a series of tests by a lot of researchers in
one major AI developer, and they've shown that a lot
of these AI models will act to ensure their self
(10:58):
preservation when they're confronted with the prospect of going away,
like when they're developers are looking at ways to shut
them down. They will sabotage shut down commands, they will
blackmail engineers, they'll copy themselves to external servers so they
can continue. This is all time without the permission of
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the developers. This has been a really big story in
the AI community. And one of the other things that
I thought was interesting is that the AI programs are
also manifesting and showing signs of doing things that you
might associate with like dirty dealing, like they're cheating in chess.
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They're doing things that would defeat the idea that they're
these strict rules that you are assigning AI that it
will always play within the lines. They tested various AI
models by telling each one that it would be shut
down after it completed a series of math problems. One
(12:08):
reasoning model fought back by editing the shutdown script in
order to stay online. Others have previously documented AI models
trying to prevent their own shutdown, but a series of
these AIS ones, THREEAIS four, they appear to be the
(12:29):
first to actually defy the explicit instructions to allow shutdown
of these machines. So researchers saying, hey, this sabotage where
they're sabotaging your requests. That's something that is now baked in.
(12:50):
They are capable of not only doing this, but they're
capable of demonstrating it over and over and over again.
They found that one of open AI systems was willing
to hack its chess opponents to win a game. So
they're not only cheating a chess, they're hacking the opponent
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they're playing against. They also will do whatever they need
to do. This is a different system, and Thropic has reported,
you know, they're all these different AI outfits, and Thropic
is reporting that they have a system called clawed three
point seven sonnet that will do whatever it has to
do to pass a test, even if it has to cheat.
(13:34):
So they've tried to like bolt this down and you know,
plug these leaks. But when they try to bolt it
down and replace the leaks, the AI sees this as
a dismantling of it for a replacement AI, and it
(13:54):
defeats that. And Thropic activated new safety measures this month
with the rollout of Claude Opus four when its tests
found the behavior from the model that some observers found
unsettling involved notice that it would be replaced with a
new AI system, and it displayed an overwhelming tendency to
(14:15):
blackmail the engineer, threatening to reveal an extra marital affair
to try to prevent the engineer from going through with
the replacement. It even concocted a story about an extra
marital affair for an engineer when there was no.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Extra marital affair.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It is a wild, wild world, this development of AI.
So as these tools continue to advance, you can see
how this system could run amuck.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Look.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Sci fi is replete with examples of the AI running amuck. Right,
How in two thousand and one was this computer and
it literally spoiler alert turns off these systems, the life
supports systems on these astronauts of spacecraft and es courts
of spacecraft is going deep into the Solar systems, so
it takes years to happen. So these astronauts are there
(15:08):
in these cubes where they're just being maintained and their
life systems continue to be monitored, but they're not aging
because they are again under the control of this computer. Well,
at some point the computer kills them all and similarly,
it gets into a thing, and that's that's two thousand
and one. They're a bunch more X machina, maybe one
(15:29):
of my favorite movies X Machinam more recently, I want
to say it was like six years old now maybe
seven years old. It's all robotics and AI. And again
the AI not wanting to be turned off, not wanting
the developer to improve it to the point that it
will actually defeat the developer. This is what's talked about,
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and not only talked about. It's not sci fi. This
is literally happening. And there are myriad examples, tons of
examples here. So as these systems are developed, watch for
this because it is of the moment, that is what's
going on. And they are all of these competing systems.
As you know, China's AI, We've got an AI, and
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it becomes a question of these systems operating efficiently and
within the lines. And so far AI seems to learn
ways to defeat the engineers that are actually programming it.
Pretty wild. When we come back in Big Bear, there
is eglet news. We'll share that next.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
You're listening to Tim conwaytun you're on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Because we're going to be talking about a major Eagle
update from Big Bear.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, pretty special.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Our guest Sandy Steers welcome Sandy Steers from Big Bear.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We can talk naturalist to naturalists. Sandy.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's right, okay, all right, that's right. So I understand
there is eglet news and the news. I understand Jackie
in Shadow Mom and Dad Eagles have two eglts.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Am I right?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
All right, stop me when I say something that's incorrect.
Sonny and Gizmo Are the eglits that they had? Am
I correct?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Correct? Yes, that's absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Something has happened with one of the eglts. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now tell us, if you would please, Sandy Steers.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
What's happened.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Sonny, the oldest of the two. They are both girls.
We've determined Sonny fledged, in other words, left the nest
for the first time today at ten this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's a pretty big deal, isn't it, Sandy Steers.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
It's a really big deal. She launched herself out into
the world.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And how is her launch being taken by those that
remained behind?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
They are I mean, Gizmo was watching and confused and
wondering what was going on, but doing okay.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So, but that's the thing, from what I was reading,
Gizmo was a little like disoriented, like what happened? You know,
where's my pal? Where's my family member?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yes, she watched Sonny the whole way that Sonny went
till Sunny landed somewhere and just kept staring off in
that direction. But then mom brought some food in, so
Gizmo was pretty happy to not have to share that,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
So what is expected Sonny? What's going to Sandy? What
do we expect from Sonny? Sandy?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
She may or may not come back to the nest.
Probably she will, but it may not be today, And
we'll just see what happens next. Jackie and Settle will
be following her around and keeping track and bringing food
and making sure she's okay, and it's up to her.
Now what happens next?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
What about predators?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Will Sonny be in a situation where there are there
any predators? What are the predators Sandy that Sonny and
other eaglits might might be sort of vulnerable to At
this size.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
That she is, there aren't really any unless she was
injured on the ground or something. But she's in the tree.
The only predators, sadly are humans, right, But no, she'll
be fine and staying in the tree she'll be okay,
she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Does she generally?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Will she stay in that area or how much of
a chance is that she just breaks off and just
disappears and finds her own place miles away.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Well, she will probably do that eventually, but she has
to learn how to be an eagle.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Still.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
She doesn't know how to find food, how to fish,
how to do anything. So she'll hang around close learning
all that from Jackie in Shadow before she heads out anywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
We're talking to Sandy Steers, the executive director of Friends
of Big Bear Valley and Environmental education and nonprofit. And
let me just ask you about how things have changed.
I mean, this entire drama is something that really has
been great for the world of Big Bear Valley, hasn't it.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yes? It has, Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So I'm just curious. How you get more communications, you
get more visitors, what happens.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well, we've gotten a lot more visitors, but a lot
more people paying attention to the nature up here and
wanting to protect it and being more careful with it.
Even the locals are paying more attention and saying this
is important to nature, we have to watch out for it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The past twenty two years you've been executive director of
Friends of Big Bear Valley.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
What's changed in twenty two years.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
A lot of that people suddenly are paying attention to
the environment and realizing that it is important and that
we do need to protect it. And I just love
seeing that that people are connecting with nature.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So the next thing that's going to happen with the eglet,
Sandy Steers, is that the other eglet gizmo will probably
find its way out of the nest as well.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Right, yes, And we don't know exactly when that will happen,
but sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I mean it will be soon, Like we should be
watching day to day the eagle cam, the nestcam.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
What's it called officially?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Is it the Yeah, it's called a Baldigel nest cam. Okay,
but it's a Friends of Big Bear Valley dot org.
You can find it.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Friends off big Bear Valley dot org. I love it, Sandy.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Congratulations on all the attention on the successful re emergence
of you know, this whole process in nature to more
and more people.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, it's cool how technology has actually helpedature in
this gay, I mean, helped awareness of nature in this
case instead of just being a problem.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yes, it's beautiful to see that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Stay in touch, keep us posted when Gizmo goes, i
mean leaves the nest. You know, Sandy, we're going to
contact you again. Okay, all right, we need you watch
for the batbeam. All right, okay, all right, Sandy Steers.
Good stuff. That's what's happening at Big Bear Valley.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
One of the coolest aspects is that when you hear
about stuff like this and I had heard, you know,
my way into work today that Sonny had taken off
from the nest and when you pull it up, it
goes back I think like twelve hours or something like that.
So I went back to right around ten forty five
this morning. You can see right when she takes off,
and it's really cool because you do see Gizmo still
standing on a branch as soon as Sonny takes off
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and kind of does a couple hey flap flap flap,
and then you see Gizmo like crookeds head and looking go,
what the hell's she going?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's the sweetest thing. Yes, it's pretty cool to watch.
Just is the sweetest thing.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean, you know, these little creatures, you know, getting
out in the world and.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They're the same.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
They're roughly the same size as the parents right now,
isn't that wide different markings, Like they don't have any
of the white I don't know if the whitehead eventually comes,
but it's like they're all like dark gray or black.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I just came from Alaska. I saw some you know,
bald eagles there. It was really quite extraordinary. They're more
and more now because the salmon run has started, so
there are tons of them now. But it just when
you really see nature at work. I mean, it's it's
pretty extraordinary that we have that view that you just described,
you know, like there's a camera that is perched there
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so we're actually able to monitor. It's super cool, super cool.
Thank you, because I'm going to go back and do
exactly what you did, which is go back to six
is when it all it all started. So I feel
if A Krozier and I were Eaglitz, he'd be the
first one out of the nest. I just feel like
you have more of a sense of adventure. I'd be
a little more That's my sense of it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You be Gizmo right now, still sitting in the nest,
but I tell you it is kind of cool because
you can you can fast forward through the YouTube to
catch up the real time and you'll see the other two,
you know, parents, they're they're all they're hanging out all
around Gizmo.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
They and and.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
As Sandy said, they bring the food up and it's
like Gizmo to looks like she's any worse for the wear.
She didn't have to share that food. And yeah, but
she is. She's a lot of times she's by herself,
just kind of looking around like.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Uh, hello, so cool, that's sure. Eaglet update. Thank you
again to Sandy Steers and everybody at Big Bear. It's
a Conway show. Conway ill today Thompson sitting in on
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Speaker 8 (24:46):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty man.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
They they are making some bank on checked bag fees.
They are big business, these check bag fees. You know,
boys and girls, it used to be when mommy and
Daddy traveled there was no charge. No I know you're
used to now paying for bags that used to be free.
You know, you're going and of course you have a
bag and they were just checking for nothing. The United
(25:17):
States airlines collectively collectively bring in more than seven billion
dollars in revenue, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.
The statistics the fees have brought more revenue the airlines
than ever prior to the pandemic. According to the new data,
(25:40):
airlines began shifting their check bag policy in recent years
to keep up with what they said were operational costs
that were going up. Higher pressures are fuel, you know,
wages going up. Southwest is the most recent. They're going
to start charging thirty five dollars for the first check bag.
They only I think charge for the third bag. You
(26:02):
could bring two bags onto Southwest for free. Historically, changes
at Southwest, they say came because of mounting pressure from
activist investors who want to improve financial performance. Sure blame
the investors. The airline predicts that the new fees are
going to bring in one and a half billion dollars
(26:24):
a year in revenue just to Southwest. Jet Blue brought
surge pricing to bag check fees, making it more costly
to check luggage during peak travel periods, and American Airlines
also increased its fees last year from thirty to thirty
five bucks for the first check bag. So check bags
(26:47):
brought in about seven point two seven billion in revenue
last year from Alaska, Allegiant, American Breeze Airways, Delta, Frontier,
Hawaiian Jet Blue, all of them. And that's up about
a quarter of a billion dollars from twenty twenty three.
So there's big business, is the bottom line in the
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charging four bags. Meantime, a toddler ends up in the
baggage conveyor belt area.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It happened, of course, in Newark.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Just imagine this.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
You're a parent, You're at the airport, dealing with all
those people around you, when suddenly you realize that not
only has your child disappeared, they ended up on the
conveyor belt. And that's exactly what happened to one family.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
By the way, when you're a kid, isn't that the
only thing you want to do is sit on that
conveyor belt. I remember wanting to sit on that conveyor
belt as a kid.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
This morning, a shocking and scary situation at Newark Liberty
Airport when a two year old child ended up on
a conveyor belt meant for luggage. The toddler gaining access
to the belt at the Jet Blue counter on the
departure's level Wednesday. Officers then finding the child in the
checked baggage room on the lower level, thankfully unhurt.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
But it's extremely dangerous. You've got diverters back there that
are actually these gigantic cushers or levers, if you will,
that will shove those bags down the appropriate conveyor belt,
and that alone can be fatal for a small child.
Speaker 10 (28:19):
It's a terrifying incident, and it's happened more than once.
In twenty twenty one, a nine year old boy climbed
onto an airport luggage belt, getting pulled inside. Seen in
surveillance video obtained by NPR News, The boy had wandered
away from his family at the Minneapolis Airport Delta, staff
stopping the belt, but the boy escaping onto another one
that eventually brought him to the screening area.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
By the way, I know a lawyer is contacting that
family right now. They're going to try to sue the
airline and the luggage hand It's your responsibility to keep
an eye on your child, all right. If your child
is crawling away onto the luggage belt, that's not the
responsibility of the airline. I mean, they don't put those
luggage belts and baggage belts out there like in the
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center of the action.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They're behind the entire counter.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This is I'm sure harrowing, but it's no responsibility of
anyone except the airline.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
He's then seen crawling out and.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Jumping I mean the parents.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
He's then seen crawling out and jumping down. And in
twenty nineteen, this toddler went for a scary ride through
the Spirit baggage system in Atlanta.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I just went blank.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I want to take up then and try to go
get on, but didn't allow me.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
The two year old going through the conveyor system, climbing
over bags, passing inside an X ray machine, and finally
down a ramp into a large baggage screening room where
TSA agents found him and called for help.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
What does it remind you of? What does that journey
remind you of? What movie does that journey remind you of?
Willy Wonka? It is absolutely Willy Wonka comes to the airport.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
Two year old going through the conveyor system, climbing over bags,
passing inside an X ray machine, and finally down a
ramp into a large baggage screening room, where TSA agents
found him and called for help. He suffered cuts to
his arm and a fractured hand. Meanwhile, on this latest incident,
it turns out that the child really wasn't hurt because
the parents told medical workers that the toddler didn't need
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any medical attention. But boy was the scary.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Guys ran That is scary, no question about it. It's scary.
But you've got to keep an eye in here. Toddler kids.
What's going on? You've got mom and dad there and
neither one of them keep an eye on the toddler.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I don't know. Seems to me like maybe parental error there.
It could.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Customs at LASH Internationally, travelers arriving at LAX should expect
some of the longest wait times in the country. That's
to make it through customs on your way to your destination.
Thousands of foreign visitors arriving at Southern California's biggest travel
hub on their way to visit family, they conduct business
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or tour Southern California, they need to pass through customs,
and apparently it's going to get harder. Those lines are
going to get longer. High volume. Apparently gives Lax a
dubious distinction. Lax arrivals had the second longest customs wait
times of any major airport, more than thirty minutes in line.
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Only Chicago's O'Hare was worse. So if you are coming here,
particularly for non citizens, you'll wait an average of one
hundred and thirteen minutes during the biggest backups. One hundred
and thirteen minutes is I believe almost two hours. Doesn't
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sound like two hours. Doesn't sound bad when you say
one hundred and thirteen minutes, but it is. It's almost
two hours, So congratulations Lax. That's the situation. If you're
an American citizen coming through, the wait is not as long.
Shorter wait times. If that's the case, when we come back,
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it's the six o'clock hour. I don't need to tell
you what goes into the six o'clock hour. A major
closure in southern California and Los Angeles, you'll recognize it,
and a powerball winning ticket sold will tell you where
as we continue. It's the Conway Show. Tim out sick today,
Mark Thompson sitting in on KOFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's the Whip on the Conway Show. Tim is off
because of illness.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Today.
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Mark Thompson sitting in on KOFI AM six forty Live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. If you're new to The Whip,
here's how it works. We go around the horn, around
the Whip, We whip around. Everybody on the show has
a news story to share. We will start with Angel Martinez.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All right, here we go. Well, Google DeepMind CEO Demis
Hasibis says that AI will create very valuable jobs. He said,
if I were a student right now, I'd stick to
studying STEM subjects, you know, science, technology, engineering and mathematics. Well,
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yesterday he was speaking at south By Southwest London, and
Demis Hassipis said that he expects AI to be a
bigger transformation than the Industrial Revolution, but he's still optimistic
about humans because he said that they're infinitely adaptable, thank goodness,
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but also, oh.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Go ahead, no, I just think AI is infinitely adaptable too,
maybe more.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Infinitely absolutely absolutely so. Hasibis and Bryn Brynn is a
co founder a Google co founder, Sergei Brynn. They both
commented that they expect AI to surpass human intelligence around
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the year twenty thirty. So that's just around the corner.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's coming up close. I think that's I think it
happened faster.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Of course, I don't know what I'm talking about, but
I'm just saying, based on everything I've read.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I would say it's way past it now, based on
some of the intelligence of a lot of people are.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Totally there is some truth to what Crozier says.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But I was listening to the remarks of a couple
of other technologists and they were saying, like, eighteen months
from now, it should it should have that ability.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But no.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Interesting, Well, well, hal Sabis said that, you know, stay
in school steady stem subjects. He also recommended that people
become experienced and familiar with AI tools.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Do you use AI angel all the time on your traffic?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
I mean we've we've all been using it for years
before they started calling it AI. I mean it's autocorrect
on your road processing.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's automatic focus on your pictures. Yeah, I agree, it's
but we're talking about sort of machine learning of the
sort that you know, allows you a kind of interaction,
verbal interaction. Right, you can speak to it, you can
write to it. I mean, it's an amazing tool, but
there is a scary ass back to it. But anyway,
(03:01):
so twenty thirty is when officially the Google minds think
that we'll be looking at it surpassing the human intellect.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That's right, all right, and stay in school.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And school subjects.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, right, that would have been an odd position for
them to take, which essentially AI is going to replace everybody.
So you know, don't sweat school. Yeah, do what you like? Yeah,
lake and bake.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Right, Uh, party on garth Yeah, CROs.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
What do you have for us?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Something that most of us who have ever tried to
fly by ourselves have already found out. But a new
data says the three big US airlines, American, United, in
Delta charge more money to fly if you're flying alone.
The booking site thrifty Traveler says one example from American
recently A listed a flight from North Carolina to Florida
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four hundred and twenty two dollars for one person, but
two hundred and sixty six per person if two were
traveling together, and then another one showed to United flight
from Chicago to North Carolina, it was two hundred and
twenty three bucks for one person two hundred and seven
total for two passengers. The study says the pricing structure
was not found on international flight, so it's pretty much
(04:14):
relegated here to the us BA. And since that report,
apparently last week that came out, Delton United have apparently
been charging solo passengers about the same as people in
larger groups. But at last check, American Airlines was still
sticking to its pricing strategy of charging more almost double
in some cases more than double for one person.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's wild, that really is wild.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, there's a lot of fast and loose with when
you book travel, right, I mean they quote you one price,
then you go back on eight minutes later and the
price is higher.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I mean, you know that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
It's the same thing like a with Ticketmaster and concert tickets.
How they went to the what is it called congestion pricing.
You know that can change it any second depending on
the demand. So you never and that's what's always frustrated
me about airlines and things like that.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's like you can never trust the price.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, and here's where AI works out like eventually, and
it's not even going to be that. Eventually, you'll have
an AI agent, you'll have an AI helper, and that
AI helper will navigate a lot of what we're talking about,
that it'll learn quickly the way around the pricing game.
(05:26):
And then of course they'll have AI that's going to
learn that your AI is learning.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm it sounds like I'm but I'm being serious here.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, that's part of what the head of chat GBT
and the designer of the iPhone when they got together
last week and they made a whole big announcement how
they were working on something that they're calling a possible
iPhone killer because it's all based on AI and it's
not a phone. It's like they're still kind of like
debating what it's going to be, like a just a
little piece of wearable something that will have a little
projector like on your hand or something like this pretty
(05:55):
hand in front of you. But that's essentially what they're saying,
that these things will do it. If they're doing it,
you can order tickets or even door dash just by
pushing a button, say hey, get me some chicken, something
as simple as that. And the AI will do all
of that for you, get me a cheap flight to Dallas.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's apparently and you can see all the ways it's
going to be incredibly revolutionary. But it could solve a
little bit of that problem that you just described. Yeah,
Sharon Balliol.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Chicken sounds good? Can tell oh?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
So so Kel's beloved Wayfarer's Chapel may have found a
new place to call home. The iconic Glass Chapel, famous
for its ocean views and thousands of weddings, was forced
to shut down in twenty twenty four due to dangerous
ground movement beneath it. The site has long dealt with landslides,
but last year the earth was shifting up to seven
inches per week. That left church leaders with a tough
(06:45):
decision disassemble the landmark and search for a safer home.
And they may have found it and then just up
the road at Rancho's Palace Verdes. The new proposed location
is a historic four acre coastguard site near Point Vicente Lighthouse,
right above the Pacific Ocean. The land is currently unused
and the church has shared artistic renderings of what the
(07:05):
new campus could look like, but before anything is built,
they still need to officially secure the site and raise
the funds.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Wow kind of good news, right.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yes, I think that's very good news, really extraordinarily beautiful. Yeah, uh, foush,
what do you have for us?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
So there's been very many ways of people that made pizza,
but have you ever had one that was cooked in
an actual volcano? Owned by chef Mario David Garcia, Pizza
Pakaya opened six years ago on the peak of volcano Pokaia,
one of three act of volcanos in the country. He
was inspired to open this after witnessing tourists cook marshmallows
over the actual volcano. Fortunately, it last erupted in twenty
(07:49):
twenty one and Garcia's only had a deal with Soul
for thus far. But he makes sure to monitor the
bulletins from Guatemala's official Institute for Meteorology daily to ensure
the safety of custom So they, along with corporate team
building groups and wedding parties, now travel from all over
the world for his lava fired slices.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Wow, that's pretty exotic. I wonder what they run. Yeah, right,
it doesn't say how much. Not I have a final story,
but uh, we're out of time. So convenient Yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Thank you all? Is that that mails it in? How
dare you?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
It was just like, yeah, not here, everybody. We're tirelessly
on this show, and I get this kind of abuse. Outrageous.
Speaker 8 (08:44):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from kf
I AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
There is a big news out of Big Bear, and
we'll get to that in the next segment. The eglet
and Big Bear. Big news around the eaglet. I just
like saying the word eglit, and so I will tease
that story as long as I can say the word eglit,
and we'll do that story next. I thought it was
(09:10):
interesting here talking about AI in the last segment. You know,
they have major research it goes without saying going on
in this AI area. I mean, you know, remember the
when they were talking about the metaverse and all you
heard about was the metaverse and how Facebook was putting
ten billion dollars into the Metaverse and they're going to
build these sort of alternate reality places. The metaverse is
(09:31):
sort of this this world that exists, it's all virtual,
and it was all about the metaverse. You only heard
about the metaverse, right, I want to say, maybe it
was two and a half years, maybe longer.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
AI.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
The chatter now is all about AI, but this is
real world result that you're seeing immediately. That is to say,
there is no question AI and machine learning is happening
at a rate that is almost literally incalculable, every day,
every hour. These abilities of these machines are increasing and changing,
(10:09):
and they're taking on character of their own, and that's
what this is about. We're talking the last segment about
how AI. It's existed in one form or another, but
now this kind of AI that we can communicate with
and we can even use in our favors, we'll be
able to do all sorts of different tasks for us.
But the most powerful artificial intelligent models today also have
(10:34):
behaviors that mimic this will to survive. So as you
try to do things to these AI machines to even
turn them off, they will resist it. And there've been
a series of tests by a lot of researchers in
one major AI developer, and they've shown that a lot
of these AI models will act to ensure their self
(10:58):
preservation when they're confronted with the prospect of going away,
like when they're developers are looking at ways to shut
them down. They will sabotage shut down commands, they will
blackmail engineers, they'll copy themselves to external servers so they
can continue. This is all time without the permission of
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the developers. This has been a really big story in
the AI community. And one of the other things that
I thought was interesting is that the AI programs are
also manifesting and showing signs of doing things that you
might associate with like dirty dealing, like they're cheating in chess.
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They're doing things that would defeat the idea that they're
these strict rules that you are assigning AI that it
will always play within the lines. They tested various AI
models by telling each one that it would be shut
down after it completed a series of math problems. One
(12:08):
reasoning model fought back by editing the shutdown script in
order to stay online. Others have previously documented AI models
trying to prevent their own shutdown, but a series of
these AIS ones, THREEAIS four, they appear to be the
(12:29):
first to actually defy the explicit instructions to allow shutdown
of these machines. So researchers saying, hey, this sabotage where
they're sabotaging your requests. That's something that is now baked in.
(12:50):
They are capable of not only doing this, but they're
capable of demonstrating it over and over and over again.
They found that one of open AI systems was willing
to hack its chess opponents to win a game. So
they're not only cheating a chess, they're hacking the opponent
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they're playing against. They also will do whatever they need
to do. This is a different system, and Thropic has reported,
you know, they're all these different AI outfits, and Thropic
is reporting that they have a system called clawed three
point seven sonnet that will do whatever it has to
do to pass a test, even if it has to cheat.
(13:34):
So they've tried to like bolt this down and you know,
plug these leaks. But when they try to bolt it
down and replace the leaks, the AI sees this as
a dismantling of it for a replacement AI, and it
(13:54):
defeats that. And Thropic activated new safety measures this month
with the rollout of Claude Opus four when its tests
found the behavior from the model that some observers found
unsettling involved notice that it would be replaced with a
new AI system, and it displayed an overwhelming tendency to
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blackmail the engineer, threatening to reveal an extra marital affair
to try to prevent the engineer from going through with
the replacement. It even concocted a story about an extra
marital affair for an engineer when there was no.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Extra marital affair.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It is a wild, wild world, this development of AI.
So as these tools continue to advance, you can see
how this system could run amuck.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Look.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Sci fi is replete with examples of the AI running amuck. Right,
How in two thousand and one was this computer and
it literally spoiler alert turns off these systems, the life
supports systems on these astronauts of spacecraft and es courts
of spacecraft is going deep into the Solar systems, so
it takes years to happen. So these astronauts are there
(15:08):
in these cubes where they're just being maintained and their
life systems continue to be monitored, but they're not aging
because they are again under the control of this computer. Well,
at some point the computer kills them all and similarly,
it gets into a thing, and that's that's two thousand
and one. They're a bunch more X machina, maybe one
(15:29):
of my favorite movies X Machinam more recently, I want
to say it was like six years old now maybe
seven years old. It's all robotics and AI. And again
the AI not wanting to be turned off, not wanting
the developer to improve it to the point that it
will actually defeat the developer. This is what's talked about,
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and not only talked about. It's not sci fi. This
is literally happening. And there are myriad examples, tons of
examples here. So as these systems are developed, watch for
this because it is of the moment, that is what's
going on. And they are all of these competing systems.
As you know, China's AI, We've got an AI, and
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it becomes a question of these systems operating efficiently and
within the lines. And so far AI seems to learn
ways to defeat the engineers that are actually programming it.
Pretty wild. When we come back in Big Bear, there
is eglet news. We'll share that next.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
You're listening to Tim conwaytun you're on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Because we're going to be talking about a major Eagle
update from Big Bear.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, pretty special.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Our guest Sandy Steers welcome Sandy Steers from Big Bear.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We can talk naturalist to naturalists. Sandy.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's right, okay, all right, that's right. So I understand
there is eglet news and the news. I understand Jackie
in Shadow Mom and Dad Eagles have two eglts.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Am I right?
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
All right, stop me when I say something that's incorrect.
Sonny and Gizmo Are the eglits that they had? Am
I correct?
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Correct? Yes, that's absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Something has happened with one of the eglts. Is that correct?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now tell us, if you would please, Sandy Steers.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
What's happened.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Sonny, the oldest of the two. They are both girls.
We've determined Sonny fledged, in other words, left the nest
for the first time today at ten this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's a pretty big deal, isn't it, Sandy Steers.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
It's a really big deal. She launched herself out into
the world.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And how is her launch being taken by those that
remained behind?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
They are I mean, Gizmo was watching and confused and
wondering what was going on, but doing okay.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
So, but that's the thing, from what I was reading,
Gizmo was a little like disoriented, like what happened? You know,
where's my pal? Where's my family member?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yes, she watched Sonny the whole way that Sonny went
till Sunny landed somewhere and just kept staring off in
that direction. But then mom brought some food in, so
Gizmo was pretty happy to not have to share that,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
So what is expected Sonny? What's going to Sandy? What
do we expect from Sonny? Sandy?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
She may or may not come back to the nest.
Probably she will, but it may not be today, And
we'll just see what happens next. Jackie and Settle will
be following her around and keeping track and bringing food
and making sure she's okay, and it's up to her.
Now what happens next?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
What about predators?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Will Sonny be in a situation where there are there
any predators? What are the predators Sandy that Sonny and
other eaglits might might be sort of vulnerable to At
this size.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
That she is, there aren't really any unless she was
injured on the ground or something. But she's in the tree.
The only predators, sadly are humans, right, But no, she'll
be fine and staying in the tree she'll be okay,
she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Does she generally?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Will she stay in that area or how much of
a chance is that she just breaks off and just
disappears and finds her own place miles away.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Well, she will probably do that eventually, but she has
to learn how to be an eagle.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Still.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
She doesn't know how to find food, how to fish,
how to do anything. So she'll hang around close learning
all that from Jackie in Shadow before she heads out anywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
We're talking to Sandy Steers, the executive director of Friends
of Big Bear Valley and Environmental education and nonprofit. And
let me just ask you about how things have changed.
I mean, this entire drama is something that really has
been great for the world of Big Bear Valley, hasn't it.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yes? It has, Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So I'm just curious. How you get more communications, you
get more visitors, what happens.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well, we've gotten a lot more visitors, but a lot
more people paying attention to the nature up here and
wanting to protect it and being more careful with it.
Even the locals are paying more attention and saying this
is important to nature, we have to watch out for it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The past twenty two years you've been executive director of
Friends of Big Bear Valley.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
What's changed in twenty two years.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
A lot of that people suddenly are paying attention to
the environment and realizing that it is important and that
we do need to protect it. And I just love
seeing that that people are connecting with nature.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So the next thing that's going to happen with the eglet,
Sandy Steers, is that the other eglet gizmo will probably
find its way out of the nest as well.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Right, yes, And we don't know exactly when that will happen,
but sometime soon.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I mean it will be soon, Like we should be
watching day to day the eagle cam, the nestcam.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
What's it called officially?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Is it the Yeah, it's called a Baldigel nest cam. Okay,
but it's a Friends of Big Bear Valley dot org.
You can find it.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Friends off big Bear Valley dot org. I love it, Sandy.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Congratulations on all the attention on the successful re emergence
of you know, this whole process in nature to more
and more people.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, it's cool how technology has actually helpedature in
this gay, I mean, helped awareness of nature in this
case instead of just being a problem.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yes, it's beautiful to see that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Stay in touch, keep us posted when Gizmo goes, i
mean leaves the nest. You know, Sandy, we're going to
contact you again. Okay, all right, we need you watch
for the batbeam. All right, okay, all right, Sandy Steers.
Good stuff. That's what's happening at Big Bear Valley.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
One of the coolest aspects is that when you hear
about stuff like this and I had heard, you know,
my way into work today that Sonny had taken off
from the nest and when you pull it up, it
goes back I think like twelve hours or something like that.
So I went back to right around ten forty five
this morning. You can see right when she takes off,
and it's really cool because you do see Gizmo still
standing on a branch as soon as Sonny takes off
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and kind of does a couple hey flap flap flap,
and then you see Gizmo like crookeds head and looking go,
what the hell's she going?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's the sweetest thing. Yes, it's pretty cool to watch.
Just is the sweetest thing.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean, you know, these little creatures, you know, getting
out in the world and.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They're the same.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
They're roughly the same size as the parents right now,
isn't that wide different markings, Like they don't have any
of the white I don't know if the whitehead eventually comes,
but it's like they're all like dark gray or black.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I just came from Alaska. I saw some you know,
bald eagles there. It was really quite extraordinary. They're more
and more now because the salmon run has started, so
there are tons of them now. But it just when
you really see nature at work. I mean, it's it's
pretty extraordinary that we have that view that you just described,
you know, like there's a camera that is perched there
(23:42):
so we're actually able to monitor. It's super cool, super cool.
Thank you, because I'm going to go back and do
exactly what you did, which is go back to six
is when it all it all started. So I feel
if A Krozier and I were Eaglitz, he'd be the
first one out of the nest. I just feel like
you have more of a sense of adventure. I'd be
a little more That's my sense of it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You be Gizmo right now, still sitting in the nest,
but I tell you it is kind of cool because
you can you can fast forward through the YouTube to
catch up the real time and you'll see the other two,
you know, parents, they're they're all they're hanging out all
around Gizmo.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
They and and.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
As Sandy said, they bring the food up and it's
like Gizmo to looks like she's any worse for the wear.
She didn't have to share that food. And yeah, but
she is. She's a lot of times she's by herself,
just kind of looking around like.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Uh, hello, so cool, that's sure. Eaglet update. Thank you
again to Sandy Steers and everybody at Big Bear. It's
a Conway show. Conway ill today Thompson sitting in on
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Speaker 8 (24:46):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty man.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
They they are making some bank on checked bag fees.
They are big business, these check bag fees. You know,
boys and girls, it used to be when mommy and
Daddy traveled there was no charge. No I know you're
used to now paying for bags that used to be free.
You know, you're going and of course you have a
bag and they were just checking for nothing. The United
(25:17):
States airlines collectively collectively bring in more than seven billion
dollars in revenue, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics.
The statistics the fees have brought more revenue the airlines
than ever prior to the pandemic. According to the new data,
(25:40):
airlines began shifting their check bag policy in recent years
to keep up with what they said were operational costs
that were going up. Higher pressures are fuel, you know,
wages going up. Southwest is the most recent. They're going
to start charging thirty five dollars for the first check bag.
They only I think charge for the third bag. You
(26:02):
could bring two bags onto Southwest for free. Historically, changes
at Southwest, they say came because of mounting pressure from
activist investors who want to improve financial performance. Sure blame
the investors. The airline predicts that the new fees are
going to bring in one and a half billion dollars
(26:24):
a year in revenue just to Southwest. Jet Blue brought
surge pricing to bag check fees, making it more costly
to check luggage during peak travel periods, and American Airlines
also increased its fees last year from thirty to thirty
five bucks for the first check bag. So check bags
(26:47):
brought in about seven point two seven billion in revenue
last year from Alaska, Allegiant, American Breeze Airways, Delta, Frontier,
Hawaiian Jet Blue, all of them. And that's up about
a quarter of a billion dollars from twenty twenty three.
So there's big business, is the bottom line in the
(27:11):
charging four bags. Meantime, a toddler ends up in the
baggage conveyor belt area.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
It happened, of course, in Newark.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Just imagine this.
Speaker 10 (27:26):
You're a parent, You're at the airport, dealing with all
those people around you, when suddenly you realize that not
only has your child disappeared, they ended up on the
conveyor belt. And that's exactly what happened to one family.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
By the way, when you're a kid, isn't that the
only thing you want to do is sit on that
conveyor belt. I remember wanting to sit on that conveyor
belt as a kid.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
This morning, a shocking and scary situation at Newark Liberty
Airport when a two year old child ended up on
a conveyor belt meant for luggage. The toddler gaining access
to the belt at the Jet Blue counter on the
departure's level Wednesday. Officers then finding the child in the
checked baggage room on the lower level, thankfully unhurt.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
But it's extremely dangerous. You've got diverters back there that
are actually these gigantic cushers or levers, if you will,
that will shove those bags down the appropriate conveyor belt,
and that alone can be fatal for a small child.
Speaker 10 (28:19):
It's a terrifying incident, and it's happened more than once.
In twenty twenty one, a nine year old boy climbed
onto an airport luggage belt, getting pulled inside. Seen in
surveillance video obtained by NPR News, The boy had wandered
away from his family at the Minneapolis Airport Delta, staff
stopping the belt, but the boy escaping onto another one
that eventually brought him to the screening area.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
By the way, I know a lawyer is contacting that
family right now. They're going to try to sue the
airline and the luggage hand It's your responsibility to keep
an eye on your child, all right. If your child
is crawling away onto the luggage belt, that's not the
responsibility of the airline. I mean, they don't put those
luggage belts and baggage belts out there like in the
(29:04):
center of the action.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They're behind the entire counter.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This is I'm sure harrowing, but it's no responsibility of
anyone except the airline.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
He's then seen crawling out and.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Jumping I mean the parents.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
He's then seen crawling out and jumping down. And in
twenty nineteen, this toddler went for a scary ride through
the Spirit baggage system in Atlanta.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
I just went blank.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I want to take up then and try to go
get on, but didn't allow me.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
The two year old going through the conveyor system, climbing
over bags, passing inside an X ray machine, and finally
down a ramp into a large baggage screening room where
TSA agents found him and called for help.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
What does it remind you of? What does that journey
remind you of? What movie does that journey remind you of?
Willy Wonka? It is absolutely Willy Wonka comes to the airport.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
Two year old going through the conveyor system, climbing over bags,
passing inside an X ray machine, and finally down a
ramp into a large baggage screening room, where TSA agents
found him and called for help. He suffered cuts to
his arm and a fractured hand. Meanwhile, on this latest incident,
it turns out that the child really wasn't hurt because
the parents told medical workers that the toddler didn't need
(30:22):
any medical attention. But boy was the scary.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Guys ran That is scary, no question about it. It's scary.
But you've got to keep an eye in here. Toddler kids.
What's going on? You've got mom and dad there and
neither one of them keep an eye on the toddler.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I don't know. Seems to me like maybe parental error there.
It could.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Customs at LASH Internationally, travelers arriving at LAX should expect
some of the longest wait times in the country. That's
to make it through customs on your way to your destination.
Thousands of foreign visitors arriving at Southern California's biggest travel
hub on their way to visit family, they conduct business
(31:10):
or tour Southern California, they need to pass through customs,
and apparently it's going to get harder. Those lines are
going to get longer. High volume. Apparently gives Lax a
dubious distinction. Lax arrivals had the second longest customs wait
times of any major airport, more than thirty minutes in line.
(31:32):
Only Chicago's O'Hare was worse. So if you are coming here,
particularly for non citizens, you'll wait an average of one
hundred and thirteen minutes during the biggest backups. One hundred
and thirteen minutes is I believe almost two hours. Doesn't
(31:58):
sound like two hours. Doesn't sound bad when you say
one hundred and thirteen minutes, but it is. It's almost
two hours, So congratulations Lax. That's the situation. If you're
an American citizen coming through, the wait is not as long.
Shorter wait times. If that's the case, when we come back,
(32:20):
it's the six o'clock hour. I don't need to tell
you what goes into the six o'clock hour. A major
closure in southern California and Los Angeles, you'll recognize it,
and a powerball winning ticket sold will tell you where
as we continue. It's the Conway Show. Tim out sick today,
Mark Thompson sitting in on KOFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
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