July 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Mark Thompson fills in for Tim Conway Jr. and dives into the major stories shaping the day. ABC’s Alex Stone joins to explain why TSA is phasing out the shoe-removal requirement—even for non-Precheck fliers. Then, Mark breaks down Mayor Karen Bass’s pushback against recent ICE raids in MacArthur Park, including her newly announced lawsuit to halt federal enforcement actions in LA. KFI’s Michael Monks joins with his take as a Downtown LA resident and what the ICE presence means for locals. Mark wraps the hour with heartbreaking updates on the deadly flooding in Texas as the situation worsens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's cam If I am six forty and you're listening
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I was
just chilling, as the kids say with John Cobil. When
I say kids, I'm talking about the forty six or
forty seven year olds that I hang out with. But
good to see John always. You know, we talk about
substantive things. You know, John and I aren't just killing time.
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We are talking about oil prices. I was reviewing a
show with him. I was talking about our show and
what an exciting show we have here on the Conway
Show ahead, and I mentioned our next guest. I always
feel like the leadoff hitter has to be able to
take care of your show. You got to put somebody
strong in that leadoff position, and we have it today.
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Alex Stone from ABC News. I want to chill with you.
Let's just chill. Let's just chill a couple of couple
of news guys.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jelly yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Alex Stone, this news came on to every media
device that I had in the house today because it's
one of those things that everyone has been hoping for,
and it involves TSA.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, and it's a little bit of good news where
you go, okay, so like less intrusive into your life.
That's not normally what you get when it's a headline
about the government of something that's going to be lessened
up and is not going to be impacting you as much.
For those who don't use TSA pre check. If you
use pre check, this has been a hasn't been a
thing for many, many years. But if you get into
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that general line at Lax or Burbank or wherever you're
going that at the airport, that you go into the
regular line, you've got to take off your shoes, or
you did until today and last night we had gotten
the heads up that TSA officers had gotten a letter
telling them this was going away immediately and that it
would no longer be required.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Which I mean just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
In There had not been a push for it, there
had not been rumors it was going to go on.
And today Christy Nome saying in her announcement at Reagan
National Airport that you can thank President Trump. She said
that this is part of his trying to make life
easier for everybody. The way that she put it and
that it was something that they wanted to do. But
she said this a little while ago.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
TSA will no longer require travelers to remove their shoes
when they go through our security checkpoints.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
H And it has been annoyance for people, although there
are some who are asking, Okay, so this is cool,
thank you, but why, and the answer being that they
believe that with technology and with the real ideas that
we've got now, that it's not really necessary any longer.
She was asked today, though, what about you know, if
you go through a magnetometer or even that bigger scanner
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thing where you know, it all moves around you and
scans your body, it's not going to know if they're
explosives in your shoes if you've got them on. And
she said, between the technology and the real ideas of
securing who you are and more officers watching and dogs
and sensors, that they don't think it's needed anymore. We
talked to big friend of KFI, Nico Melendez, formerly of
the TSA, and this is his view, and he it
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was under his watch that the shoe rule went into
place in two thousand and six, five years after Richard Reid.
The shoe bomber on the American Airlines flight to try
to blow it up with explosives in his shoes. He
says that we just know a lot more now.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I think technology is one factor in allowing the change,
but it's about knowing who is getting on these planes.
So TSA PreCheck, for instance, we know who has TSA
pre checks, so those people don't have to take their
shoes up. So with real ID, we know who these
people are and we know that they don't necessarily pose
a threat. So by knowing more about the passengers, it
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allows TSA to make these decisions.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now there is one other thing, though, Mark, that he says,
all right, if we can do this, what about the
three point four ounces of liquid?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Everything below that amount?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You know, kind of arbitrary a number that they came
up with back in an explosives plot of if you
mix them together, what would blow up an airplane? Well,
if it's under three point four ounces, it wouldn't. He says,
it may be time for that.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
When are we going to get to the elimination of
the liquid band policy, because that was another stopgap measure
after the liquid bomb plot in two thousand and six
that continues to burden passengers. So there's a lot of
things that were done as stop gaps, but things that
have not all had remedies to them just yet, and
hopefully we get to that point where some of these overburdens,
some regulations that are implemented on passengers are eliminated.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So, and we do have scanners now that when the
liquids go through that it can tell you if it's
gasoline or water.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, so there's probably more technology you could argue to
help you know what a liquid is than whether you
have a bomb in your your shoes or not. But
they're given immediately the green light to leave your shoes
on and all the lines. One other thing, Christi Nome said,
this is about hospitality in the US, making it easier
to travel, welcoming people. And she scared everybody a little
bit in LA when.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
She said this make people safe but also provide some hospitalities. Well,
now this is especially important to streamline the process and
look at efficiencies that we can build in as we
build up for some big events that are going to
be coming here in the next twelve months here in
the United States of America. As you all know right now,
we have the Club Championships going on, a lot of
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travelers and visitors are coming into the country. But next
year we will also have the Olympics in the United
States of America next year.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, we got three more years and tell that. But
they do want to open things up, make it more.
We're welcoming for the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, Well, and you know, no one can get your
attention like Christy Namkan. You know when she brings in
the Mounted Police and the humviies.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You hope that your Homeland Security secretary knows when the
biggest event is a security event in the US when
the Olympics are here.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
But it's not next year, it's.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
In three years.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I'm seeing that already. They've phased in a handful
of these airports on the as you suggest. The no
shoes requirement being phased.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
In, Yeah, Seattle was immediate. We learned this morning after
the letters went to the TSA officers last night. Seattle
was doing it this morning. We understand LAX will be
pretty quick, if not already in some of the lanes
or maybe even all of them. It's going to be
the big airports first, and then they're going to kind
of trickle it down from there, and they said there
may be some that you go to that still require
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it and some that don't, you know. I mean, it's
like anything at the TSA where you get into one
lane and they tell you to no, take out all
your bags and put them in the in the bin,
and then you go to the other airport or other
lane and no, you leave that in your bag. You
don't take that out. No uniform it.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
They claim that that's to keep everybody on their toes.
It seems just like being disorganized, you know, because is
the terrorist going to be like, well, I left in
my bag or I didn't leave it in my bag.
But nonetheless it may not be the same everywhere, just
like everything else of whatever you do going through it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Where is Richard read Now the shoe bomber, you may ask,
that's my trivia question.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Really want to know.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I don't know where is he?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He is serving out his time?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Is he at super Max in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I believe he's at I thought I just had it.
He's at ady X in Colorado. Ad X room you
go super Max out there the middle of No. I
was just guessing that's where all the bad guys go
really bad. Guess you've got good guesses because you know
your stuff. Love it all right, think of your your
shoe bomber, the foiled shoe bomber, Richard Reid. As you
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go through TSA which now slowly will no longer demand
that we take our shoes off and.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Lets whether you agree with it or not, hopefully it
speeds things up.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And it just there's something so unclean about having to
take off your shoes in a place where you know,
you know, guys have been in the men's room and
you know what men's rooms are like, and you know
that floor is just it's not maintained through the day
because they're trying to move a bunch of people.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Oh it's ever maintained, not just through the day, but
do they ever clean it? No, Yeah, it'll be nice.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So all right, Alex love talking and thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Alex Stone from ABC News with the latest on that
there is a lot of stuff coming at us quickly
today at KFI, we're following it all. Krozer is here.
We've got the team in place, Angel handling all things traffic.
Staffouche in sound design and Matt doing it all. Got
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some video on the Jeffrey Epstein questions that surround the
release or the lack of re release in regard to
FBI and Justice Department notes a file on Jeffrey Epstein,
What really happened? Was there a suicide? Wasn't there a suicide? Again?
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We've got some sound from the cabinet meeting at which
Pam Bondi and the President spoke to this. Next, the
Texas flood rescue teams, and the latest on the Camp
Mystic tragedy.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
To all of that as we continue.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
We are united with the other cities in the region,
and by the way, that started from day one. When
the first raids happened on June sixth, we immediately reached
out to our colleagues and other cities. We have eighty
eight cities in our county, and knowing that what was
happening in La would soon be in other cities as well,
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we wanted to make sure that we were all kind
of on the same page, all had the information. But
what we have experienced over these last few weeks has
just been shocking, as the city attorney mentioned yesterday, seeing troops, troops,
some on horseback, ride through a children's summer camp, disrupting
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that traumatizing the kids. Although we don't know if they
actually knew, we hope they didn't because they were ushered
down stairs out of the public eye in order to
be protected protected from their military. And I will tell
you I talked to one youngster eight years old and
just went up and talked to him, and he immediately
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started expressing the fears he has over ice unsolicited and
I don't think that he was aware of what happened.
But you have a situation now where people are walking
down the street, a car will pull up no license plate.
Men will jump out, completely masked, pull guns on whoever
it is and take them away. Aside from the fact
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that this is unconstitutional, how do we know the difference
between this and a kidnapping? And so it creates a
public safety problem because of individuals in the city and
this has already happened, call it up and report it
as a kidnapping. Then you have LAPD go out and
then you have a mess which has happened several times
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that could put many people in danger. So I think,
you know, once upon a time we had checks and
balances in our country.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Now, I say, instead of three co equal.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Branches of the government, it seems as though we just
have one branch of the government. We have the administration,
the House, and the Senate. Essentially, they gave their gavels
over to Pennsylvania Avenue. And what the President did in
the first administration significantly altered the courts. Having said that
the courts we will still go to for a remedy.
Speaker 10 (11:29):
As we are today, it is critical that.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
We use every single venue, every single possibility of seeking justice.
Speaker 10 (11:39):
And that's what we're doing today.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
And I do hope that the courts, especially issue this
injunction and stop this. But one thing about our city,
and I say this every time because I think it's
so important, our city is definitely united. You don't see
dissension here. You see a city that is united because
this is who we are. We are a city of immigrants,
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and we will stand with Angelinos regardless of what country
they came from, when they.
Speaker 10 (12:07):
Got here, or why they're here.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
And so with that, I am proud to stand in
unity as we file this lawsuit and seek justice, and
hopefully that will come in the form of an injunction.
Speaker 10 (12:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
That's Charlie, Mayor Karen Bass.
Speaker 11 (12:24):
And now a city that is the third largest city
in our county and that has been the site of
many of these unprovoked raids, I'm proud to introduce Mayor
Victor Cordo of Pasadena.
Speaker 12 (12:39):
Thank you, madam, so mutnian colleagues. Mayor Bass, I'm joined
here by our own city attorney in passing the Michelle Bonneries.
Let me just say that what is occurring in our country,
and certainly in Pasadena and Los Angeles in our region,
is unacceptable. Not too long ago, we had three gentlemen
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who were on their way to work in the Burn
Area in Altadena, sitting at a bus stop. What I
say is enjoying the breakfast of Champions donuts, juice and
milk and waiting for the bus to pick them up
to go help our alien community in the Burn area.
And they were picked up by armed and massmen in
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Pasadena who also pulled a gun out on a resident
in Pasadena and aimed that gun towards that resident. Behind
that resident was a parking lot well a sidewalk full
of people. Behind them, a parking lot in front of
a grocery store two blocks from my home where my
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family and I shop. It's unacceptable in my neighborhood. It's
unacceptable in every neighborhood in this county, in the state.
And I would say to you the country in the
world for an armed man to jump out of of
a vehicle, not identify themselves, wheeled a weapon towards innocent bystanders.
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Imagine the Parade of Terribles. If that officer or agent
had tripped, accidentally or intentionally pulled, the trigger missed, and
an errant bullet would have gone into that crowd, the
parking lot and or the grocery store.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 12 (14:23):
Followed following those actions, a woman on her way to
work on a Sunday afternoon or Sunday morning, I should see,
all right.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
So we're listening to the mayor of Pasadena. The Corto
gives some comments.
Speaker 13 (14:37):
So we've also heard from the La city attorney who
said that disproportionate force and tactics US and was she
categorized as unconstitutional. Raids and round ups in the city
are now the two forces behind this lawsuit here.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
We also heard from Mayor bass.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
She talked about there being eighty eight cities within La
County and they are all joined and united in one
in one.
Speaker 14 (15:01):
Yeah, that seems to be the collective now between Mayor
bas and as you heard the mayor Pasadena, Victor Gordo
and city Attorney Heidi feldtsling Soto talking about it, seems
like a more collective effort on their pushback against the
Immigration enforcement raids.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah. I want to say the inflection point there really
been two of them. One of them is a legal
one and the other is an optical one. The legal
one is the lawsuits to which the mayor has referred
and she's suing for any number of things related to
what she feels and she is maintaining legally are raids
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and actions in her city that don't conform to the
legal specifications that the Department of Heal nan Security has
to and ICE specifically has to adhere to. The second
is the optical inflection point, during which yesterday you have
this invasion of MacArthur Park by Rens law enforcement on
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a horseback and ICE agents, and it was this bizarre
sweep of a park that had no disruption going on,
nothing out of the ordinary in fact, many of these
areas of downtown Los Angeles are not as popular as
they were even a month ago because of these raids.
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But in any case, when federal agents on a horseback,
you know, sweep through MacArthur Park and you know, a
helicopter is there was a black helicopter that was also
part of this thing, it was like, what's going on here?
It just has the look of a show of theater,
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and I think, honestly, that's what it was. And then
the mayor shows up and it also has the show
of theater, you know, public official showing up to this
over the top display of force. It just seemed like
the whole situation was designed for photo ops. I mean again, though,
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I'm going to say the Feds, you don't need to
bring a black Hawk helicopter and men on horseback and
troops through MacArthur Park. There again, is just nothing more
there than the theater of enforcement. And you know, we
talked yesterday about the fact that I get it you
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want to send a message that you're tough on illegal immigration.
I think one of the big things that happened with
illegal immigration was that everyone Republican Democrat, I mean not
to a person but I think in the main and
all polling bore this out.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Was on the same page.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Hey, southern border, it's a problem, Biden, Obama, whatever, whoever's
in charge, it's a problem. Trump will handle this problem.
The Democrats have slept on it. And again we can
get into it. Democrats part of that bipartisan bill that
was really authored by the GOP at the very end,
but they waited too long on it, and so you know,
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you pay a political price for that. But my point
is that is different than sweeping MacArthur Park with a
bunch of Feds on horseback and a black Hawk helicopter.
You can stop the southern border, and the southern border
flow has been stopped, but you have to have some
consideration for a city that you're just turning upside down.
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We have the story yesterday, but Cole's is closing downtown.
There are a bunch of restaurants closing downtown. The fashion
district is being hard to hit by this. Businesses are
having troubles sustaining themselves because the downtown foot traffic has
dropped off so quickly. But why is that. It's not
just because of some of these arrests. It's because of
these shows the theater associated with the Marines there with
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these guys on horseback yesterday, these sweeps that are just
over the top. So there comes a point of diminishing
returns on this and we are way past that point,
I think on some level. I mean, I don't care
how you feel about Los Angeles. We have a homeless problems,
we have problems with business owners, we have taxation problems
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with business owners being over tax There's a lot of
pressure if you've got a small business person in Los
Angeles just to make ends meet. And so it's tough
enough without the FEDS coming in and scaring the crap
out of everybody. I'm just saying that, guys, we can't
lose our heads over this stuff. But sadly, my pleas
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and the pleas of local officials are falling on deaf
ears when it comes to the Feds. They seem to
want to make an example of LA. They also, I think,
like messing with LA. I just said it. They like
messing with the community. And Republican Democrat Maga or non maga,
you should be bothered by that. I just you know, hey,
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I have pride in a lot of stuff that's associated
with Los Angeles. There's a lot of great stuff here.
We have big city problems like a lot of big
cities have, but we don't need the FEDS screwing with us.
We need the FEDS helping us. Anyway, the comments of
the mayor associated with legal action, and we'll see how
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this all plays out, but right now it's a pretty
bad look, i'd say for the Feds. Now, when we
come back, let's get to Texas and the latest there.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (20:51):
Just in the last half hour, the mayor of Los Angeles,
Karen Bass, with a press conference in which she made
the announcement that there are legal actions they're going to
be taken against the federal government. And this is, again,
as I was saying, sort of a watershed moment in
all of this, as the example is being made of
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Los Angeles and the presence of the FEDS here is
more prominent than anywhere else in the country. And you
know who lives in downtown Los Angeles is also an
outstanding member of our news teams, Michael Monks, who joins
us now.
Speaker 15 (21:29):
It's my pleasure to be here. That was quite a
news conference because it is another indicator of the escalation
of this ongoing battle between local leaders in La County
and the City of Los Angeles and the federal government,
and the war of words has only heightened in recent days.
I think the display in MacArthur Park yesterday was a
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motivator to push this press conference forward. But it's not
an insignificant announcement that the city has made. And by
the way, this was not just the city of Lass Angelis.
That is also the County of Los Angeles and multiple
other cities within La County that have now joined a
lawsuit filed by the ACLU against the Trump administration in
an attempt to get some of these raids to stop.
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They call them unconstitutional in violations of the Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You know, the raids are one thing.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
This over the top theater that went on yesterday with
MacArthur Park, you know, and the was the mounted cops
and I guess there were the Feds who are on.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Horseback, the Blackhawk calicopter.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I mean, these are things that are associated with the
theater of the presence of them being here.
Speaker 15 (22:36):
It's not associated even with the raids, right, And that
is exactly what local officials have been saying. They said
that at yesterday's news conference that was called in direct
response to the action, and it's what we heard again
reiterated today at the City Attorney's office, in the office
of Heidefeldstein Soto, who hosted this press conference and announced
this lawsuit today alongside La Mayor Bass, that this is
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sowing chaos, this is sowing fear, and the action in
MacArthur Park is indicative of the lack of preparation, the
lack of a plan on behalf of the federal government
to follow through with what they've been promising. Now, there's
no question that there are detainments taking place, that people
are being taken into custody, and that is what President
Trump has called for, mass deportations, but there have been
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questions around who exactly are you going after. You said
you were going after the worst of the worst, the
violent criminals, but we're seeing a lot of images from
car washes and home depots and that sort of thing.
Keep in mind, there are plenty of people who voted
for President Trump with the idea that mass deportations meant
every single person who is here illegally, so they are
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happy to see this, but there may be others who
are more swayable and more sympathetic to maybe a more
moderate approach to this. Yes, please get rid of the
violent criminals, but let's have a conversation about some of
these other people who are here.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I just hear more more in that the idea somehow
that this isn't what I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I hear a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And so those who felt we should take an aggressive
stand on immigration are still somewhat disillusioned with the way
it's actually going down.
Speaker 15 (24:13):
And President Trump is not somebody who will walk away
from a fight, especially one to be had in public,
no matter how small the stakes. But these stakes are
quite high for a lot of people living in Los Angeles,
whether they're here legally or not, but particularly the people
who are living here illegally, and there are many of them.
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That's why you see so much enforcement, because if you're
going to hit the numbers that the federal government has
said it wants to hit. We've heard from Stephen Miller,
an advisor to the White House, three thousand a day, Well,
you got to go where the illegal immigrants are, and
there are a lot of them in Los Angeles County
and southern California, So that's why we're seeing it. But
as these war of words heats up, it does concern
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the public that these aren't serious actions on either side.
You know, Are we just showboating? Are we flexing on
one another to score political points when there are actual
lives at stake?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I mean, there's definitely a flex And I was saying
yesterday that it looked like a photo op on both sides,
you know. I mean, if you had to do it cinematically,
you would, you know, bring in the FEDS with the
heat and the horses and the blackall calicopter and you'd
have the mayor pull up and go, you guys can't
do this to my city.
Speaker 15 (25:31):
I mean, it was very the most dramatic scene we've
seen since all this started.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Again.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
We have seen the the enforcement actions at the car washes,
at the street vendors, at the home depots, but this
was something out of where else Hollywood, right here in
Los Angeles, to have that type of scene, to have
the mayor show up and do what she did, getting
on the phone ordering them to leave, you know, even
though she doesn't have the authority to do that, but
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making a stand for what she believes in. DHS officials
there standing for what they believe in. We heard their
comments after that. We're not going anywhere. Get used to us,
he said to the mayor, the leader of the border
patrol here in this area. So what happens next? That
is there's a lack of clarity in a couple of areas. One,
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what is the immigration policy of the White House? Is
it everybody who's here illegally? We know that they've said this.
If you're here illegally, you are subject to arrest and deportation.
But who are the priorities? Who are you targeting when
these officials, these agents are out moving around. Secondly, what
was the MacArthur Park incident about? What did you come
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there to do? Because they didn't do anything right. Nobody
was detailed, nobody was even questioned. It was a big
show of force and then a very quick dispersal. I
saw some reporting from independent journalist Ken Clippenstein. Now he
is of a more liberal ideology. Is written for publications
like The Nation and The Intercept, respectable but liberal leaning
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or leftists even publications. He obtained some documents related to
that activity and it appears that the plan was foiled
by just poor preparation. This was to involve a lot
of different agencies with a focus on the manufacturing and
distribution of fake IDs, which I have seen MacArthur bikers absolutely,
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so that stuff is taking in the right neighbor right.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But they didn't do anything.
Speaker 15 (27:31):
They didn't stop anybody, they didn't ask any questions, and
they have still not said exactly what they were doing there.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I was trying to find the DHS budget because the
new budget for Department of Homeland Security and ICE is
off the charts. It is a bigger budget than many
countries have militarily.
Speaker 15 (27:52):
And so when you hear the border patrol chief in
this region say, get used to it, We're not going anywhere.
He's got a lot more money to use. The agency's
going to have a lot more resources. So regardless of
whether you are a high target, high priority criminal illegal
alien in this community, you're going to be at risk
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for rast and deportation.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
One hundred and seven point nine billion dollars. And you're right,
they'll I mean to me, you know, it's it's typical Washington.
They waste money in so many different ways. I mean,
they're just setting it ablaze. I'm sure, you know. But they,
even as they spend all this money, don't really have
their act together. There's not a coherent policy. And you
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have the President of the United States, Donald Trump saying,
you know, I think there should be a program for
farm workers or agriculture. I love my farmers. Let's try
to work something out. You can hear him working it
out in the moment, that there should be something like
a Brassero program, which was a successful program for decades.
You know, there are workers who can come recognized as
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workers by the federal government, and they can be legalized
to the extent that they are working in all of
these different professions.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And that's what you're hearing Trump kind of work out
in his head.
Speaker 15 (29:07):
Well, the local officials can't compete either with the President's
train of thought or with the one hundred and seven
billion dollars now promised to these enforcement activities. What they
do have is perhaps the last recourse is the courts.
And that's what we saw today that is the catalyst
for this conversation that we are having. That the city,
the county and other cities in La County have joined
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this lawsuit filed by the ACLU against it named Secretary
Nome in the lawsuits, so it's Vasquez versus Nome, but
the Homeland Security Secretary the Trump administration basically saying that
US Border Patrol agents have relied on perceived race or
ethnicity to select you to stop, conducted suspicionless stops, executed
warrantless home raids, and carried out illegal work site operations.
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They say these illegal practices violate the Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So that's the strategy. Now, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
By the way you live downtown, I kind of did
a little mini rant about what's happening to the downtown area.
I think because of this federal presence that's over the
top in my judgment, I'm going to just again, it's
not an enforcement thing. It's a theater thing. I don't
know what's going on. It's like they're just trying to
scare everybody.
Speaker 15 (30:18):
Well, there's no question that there's a sense of fear
down there. There are fewer shops that are open, there
are definitely fewer customers that are coming down. But again,
you've got a lot of people who support This is
what they voted for, this is what they wanted to
see and now what la And even if you support
this or not, what everyone here will have to grapple
with is that there was a significant portion of the
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local economy powered by illegal immigrants that will not be
easily replaced.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Thank you. That is what I worry about.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Also, is that this economy could get into a free
fall quickly anyway out of time. Michael, mom's so great.
Good that you're both a resident and you've got a
real perspective on this from a newstandpoint.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
All right, listen to Tim conwaytun You're on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim. We got the whole
crew here.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
We talked about the TSA with their new screening policy
already in effect at some airports. Keep the sapatos on, kids,
keep those shoes hot. Yeah, the long national nightmare where
we have to go barefoot through that machine is done.
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There's still too many ways to screw with us for me, sir,
you gotta put it in the bin. Don't put it
in the bin. Take your jacket off. Don't take your
jacket off. Your watch is fine, your belt is fine. No,
wait a minute, take off your watch. Take off your belt.
I mean, it really is like a game show going
through there, and you need an other worldly zen quality
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to not let it bother you. I mean, especially if
you're late. And then when they pull the one bag aside,
your other bag got through, but your like little handbag
pushed aside in that sort of waiting area where now
you need somebody to wipe that swab or look at
whatever stuff. They have to find some toothbrush that has
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too sharp a thing on the end of it. Anyway,
the good news is that shoes can remain on slowly.
It's being phased in, but lax is one of the
airports that will have an early phase in of it.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
So that's the good news.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
This is there's no other way to put it. It's
a huge tragedy what happened in Texas and what continues
to happen in the recovery effort.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now a fifth day of this and the death toll
over one hundred.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
In the Texas Hill Country.
Speaker 16 (32:46):
This morning, response teams both official and volunteer are combing
through mud and dense forest searching for answers.
Speaker 17 (32:53):
It's one of the most devastating things I've ever seen
in my life. But that devastation goes eighty miles down
the water, and that devastation goes anywhere from three quarters
of a mile to half a mile wide off of
the river as well.
Speaker 16 (33:07):
More than one hundred people died in the floods that
swelled river banks over the weekend. Camp Mystic, or at
least twenty seven campers and counselors died, said their hearts
are broken alongside the families, calling the floods an unimaginable tragedy.
Among the victims eight year old twin sisters Hannah and
Rebecca Lawrence, whose grandfather said their joy can never be forgotten.
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Eight year old Anna Margaret Bellows was also at Camp Mystic.
Her mom spoke with our Houston station Katie r K.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
The main thing I.
Speaker 12 (33:36):
Want to convey is that our whole group.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Is so grateful for the counselors who loved our children
and protected them until the very end.
Speaker 16 (33:50):
In the wake of the storm, questions about the level
of preparedness across the region, ABC News has learned the
National Weather Service had surge staffing in place during the storm.
Five meteorologists were working when there are usually two.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's really important because I know a lot is being
made right now of budget cuts and layoffs at the
National Weather Service at Noah, which is the umbrella agency
under which the National Weather Service works. But they did
anticipate this event and they hired, I shouldn't say hied.
They put on shift more forecasters than would normally man
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that shift, and so you had redundancy there. You had,
if you will, kind of all hands on deck, all
the hands that were available. Anyway, from a forecasting standpoint.
Speaker 16 (34:40):
Five meteorologists were working when there are usually two. Alert
started the day before the floods, with the first flash
flood warning issued around one am. Day of the first
flash flood emergency four am. That is not what woke
Stewart Gross from bed.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
What was it that woke you up with fire department?
It wasn't the alert on your.
Speaker 16 (34:59):
Se Officials canceled a press conference yesterday afternoon amid questions
about the area's alert system.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
It's very tough to make those calls because oh, we
also don't want to do as cry will.
Speaker 18 (35:09):
Several meteorologists urge everyone get that.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Look, I know a little something about this. I worked
in meteorology for thirty five years, and the government always
will err on the side of safety. That's why I
used to have to go on television so often and
explain that it's not that flash flooding is likely. It's
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just that the elements are in place, and they have to,
from a government standpoint, protect the public, and so they
issue a flash flood watch that means the elements are
in place that could produce flash flooding. A flash flood
warning means there is flash flooding going on now at
the time of this warning in your area, the area
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that is specified in this warning. When they say they
don't want to cry wolf, I'm calling bs on that.
The whole idea is that you cry wolf. The whole
idea is that you hit that alert so that people
understand the elements are in place that might produce the
kind of thing that we've seen. Now, this is an
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extraordinary thing that happened. But I'm just challenging this one thing.
I don't think you have any I guess high ground
logically when you say, oh, we just didn't want to
like overworn the public, that's just not true. You overworn
the public all the time, and you should. You're a
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government agency charge with the safety of the public.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
So go ahead and overworn them.
Speaker 16 (36:43):
Officials canceled a press conference yesterday afternoon amid questions about
the area's alert system.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's very tough to make those calls because oo, we
also don't want to do as cry wolf.
Speaker 18 (36:52):
Several meteorologists urge everyone get a Noah weather radio as
a more reliable way to receive alerts when your cell
phone or low sirens don't work. It doesn't require cell service,
is battery powered, and can cost less than thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
That's probably true, and it's probably I think within reasonable
expectations that somebody on that crew, you have a summer
camp there, have one of those things, you know. I
think we've become so accustomed to everything and all alerts
coming through the phone that we figure we've all got
phones and if something happens, we'll get alerted. But clearly
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the twenty two warnings, that's how many. There were twenty
two warnings from the National Weather Service, and all those
warnings used escalating language as time went on. They didn't
get picked up in time to do anything, and it.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Just came out.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
By the way, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 14 (37:50):
The Associated pressress reported that there apparently was an inspection
that had been done for emergency preparedness at that Camp
Mystic one day before and it was approved.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh that's wild, that's eerie. I mean, really, that's just extraordinary.
Speaker 14 (38:08):
Yeah, they said they're still trying to figure out the timeline,
as you know, as they say that that there was
a warning that was put out earlier in the day
or the day before, and they they're trying to figure
out why nothing happened because they put that floodwatch warning
in the area on July thirty, just after one o'clock
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, exactly, So in other words, no one was asleep.
This whole idea that you know, this happened in the
middle of the night. A lot of the warnings didn't
go I mean, sure, it's true that many of the
warnings did happen during the middle of the night, but
what Crozier's talking about was happening in the middle of
the afternoon.
Speaker 14 (38:41):
They said at least one of the roughly eight eighteen
camps along the river there did move dozens of campus
to higher ground.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The question as to whether or not layoffs at the
federal level affected it, I wanted to spend just a second.
That's why I replayed for you, the fact that there
were how to give meteorologists on board. There were five
there where they're normally only two. I mean, they really
did redouble efforts because they forecasters saw what was happening.
(39:10):
And the only thing I think that is worthy of
a beat of a little attention is the fact that
the liaison person a warning coordination meteorologist. This is a
really important role that essentially acts as the liaison between
forecasters and emergency management agencies in that area to plan
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how information about extreme weather events is actually going to
get disseminated to the public. That person was missing, That
position was eliminated. The federal government went through all these cuts, right,
I mean we read about them, and among the casualties
was that warning coordination meteorologies. So if you want to
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point a finger there, that's where it ends up. But
it's not with weather forecasters. They did, I thought, based
on everything I've seen, exactly what they're supposed to do,
and there were plenty of them. So it's a sad
fact that we have to review these specific specifics after
this tremendous loss, But we review the specific show that
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come back. We talked to Carrie Flynn from Axios. Big
big changes at CNN. They're relaunching something. I don't really
even understand what they're relaunching. That's why Carrie Flynn's going
to be here. We'll talk to her next Conway Show.
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Show ahead, and I mentioned our next guest. I always
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take care of your show. You got to put somebody
strong in that leadoff position, and we have it today.
(00:54):
Alex Stone from ABC News. I want to chill with you.
Let's just chill. Let's just chill a couple of couple
of news guys.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Jelly yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Alex Stone, this news came on to every media
device that I had in the house today because it's
one of those things that everyone has been hoping for,
and it involves TSA.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, and it's a little bit of good news where
you go, okay, so like less intrusive into your life.
That's not normally what you get when it's a headline
about the government of something that's going to be lessened
up and is not going to be impacting you as much.
For those who don't use TSA pre check. If you
use pre check, this has been a hasn't been a
thing for many, many years. But if you get into
(01:38):
that general line at Lax or Burbank or wherever you're
going that at the airport, that you go into the
regular line, you've got to take off your shoes, or
you did until today and last night we had gotten
the heads up that TSA officers had gotten a letter
telling them this was going away immediately and that it
would no longer be required.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Which I mean just came out of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
In There had not been a push for it, there
had not been rumors it was going to go on.
And today Christy Nome saying in her announcement at Reagan
National Airport that you can thank President Trump. She said
that this is part of his trying to make life
easier for everybody. The way that she put it and
that it was something that they wanted to do. But
she said this a little while ago.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
TSA will no longer require travelers to remove their shoes
when they go through our security checkpoints.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
H And it has been annoyance for people, although there
are some who are asking, Okay, so this is cool,
thank you, but why, and the answer being that they
believe that with technology and with the real ideas that
we've got now, that it's not really necessary any longer.
She was asked today, though, what about you know, if
you go through a magnetometer or even that bigger scanner
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thing where you know, it all moves around you and
scans your body, it's not going to know if they're
explosives in your shoes if you've got them on. And
she said, between the technology and the real ideas of
securing who you are and more officers watching and dogs
and sensors, that they don't think it's needed anymore. We
talked to big friend of KFI, Nico Melendez, formerly of
the TSA, and this is his view, and he it
(03:08):
was under his watch that the shoe rule went into
place in two thousand and six, five years after Richard Reid.
The shoe bomber on the American Airlines flight to try
to blow it up with explosives in his shoes. He
says that we just know a lot more now.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I think technology is one factor in allowing the change,
but it's about knowing who is getting on these planes.
So TSA PreCheck, for instance, we know who has TSA
pre checks, so those people don't have to take their
shoes up. So with real ID, we know who these
people are and we know that they don't necessarily pose
a threat. So by knowing more about the passengers, it
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allows TSA to make these decisions.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Now there is one other thing, though, Mark, that he says,
all right, if we can do this, what about the
three point four ounces of liquid?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Everything below that amount?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You know, kind of arbitrary a number that they came
up with back in an explosives plot of if you
mix them together, what would blow up an airplane? Well,
if it's under three point four ounces, it wouldn't. He says,
it may be time for that.
Speaker 7 (04:04):
When are we going to get to the elimination of
the liquid band policy, because that was another stopgap measure
after the liquid bomb plot in two thousand and six
that continues to burden passengers. So there's a lot of
things that were done as stop gaps, but things that
have not all had remedies to them just yet, and
hopefully we get to that point where some of these overburdens,
some regulations that are implemented on passengers are eliminated.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So, and we do have scanners now that when the
liquids go through that it can tell you if it's
gasoline or water.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, so there's probably more technology you could argue to
help you know what a liquid is than whether you
have a bomb in your your shoes or not. But
they're given immediately the green light to leave your shoes
on and all the lines. One other thing, Christi Nome said,
this is about hospitality in the US, making it easier
to travel, welcoming people. And she scared everybody a little
bit in LA when.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
She said this make people safe but also provide some hospitalities. Well,
now this is especially important to streamline the process and
look at efficiencies that we can build in as we
build up for some big events that are going to
be coming here in the next twelve months here in
the United States of America. As you all know right now,
we have the Club Championships going on, a lot of
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travelers and visitors are coming into the country. But next
year we will also have the Olympics in the United
States of America next year.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, we got three more years and tell that. But
they do want to open things up, make it more.
We're welcoming for the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, Well, and you know, no one can get your
attention like Christy Namkan. You know when she brings in
the Mounted Police and the humviies.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
You hope that your Homeland Security secretary knows when the
biggest event is a security event in the US when
the Olympics are here.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
But it's not next year, it's.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
In three years.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, I'm seeing that already. They've phased in a handful
of these airports on the as you suggest. The no
shoes requirement being phased.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
In, Yeah, Seattle was immediate. We learned this morning after
the letters went to the TSA officers last night. Seattle
was doing it this morning. We understand LAX will be
pretty quick, if not already in some of the lanes
or maybe even all of them. It's going to be
the big airports first, and then they're going to kind
of trickle it down from there, and they said there
may be some that you go to that still require
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it and some that don't, you know. I mean, it's
like anything at the TSA where you get into one
lane and they tell you to no, take out all
your bags and put them in the in the bin,
and then you go to the other airport or other
lane and no, you leave that in your bag. You
don't take that out. No uniform it.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
They claim that that's to keep everybody on their toes.
It seems just like being disorganized, you know, because is
the terrorist going to be like, well, I left in
my bag or I didn't leave it in my bag.
But nonetheless it may not be the same everywhere, just
like everything else of whatever you do going through it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Where is Richard read Now the shoe bomber, you may ask,
that's my trivia question.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Really want to know.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
I don't know where is he?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He is serving out his time?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Is he at super Max in Colorado?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I believe he's at I thought I just had it.
He's at ady X in Colorado. Ad X room you
go super Max out there the middle of No. I
was just guessing that's where all the bad guys go
really bad. Guess you've got good guesses because you know
your stuff. Love it all right, think of your your
shoe bomber, the foiled shoe bomber, Richard Reid. As you
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go through TSA which now slowly will no longer demand
that we take our shoes off and.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Lets whether you agree with it or not, hopefully it
speeds things up.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And it just there's something so unclean about having to
take off your shoes in a place where you know,
you know, guys have been in the men's room and
you know what men's rooms are like, and you know
that floor is just it's not maintained through the day
because they're trying to move a bunch of people.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Oh it's ever maintained, not just through the day, but
do they ever clean it? No, Yeah, it'll be nice.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So all right, Alex love talking and thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Alex Stone from ABC News with the latest on that
there is a lot of stuff coming at us quickly
today at KFI, we're following it all. Krozer is here.
We've got the team in place, Angel handling all things traffic.
Staffouche in sound design and Matt doing it all. Got
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some video on the Jeffrey Epstein questions that surround the
release or the lack of re release in regard to
FBI and Justice Department notes a file on Jeffrey Epstein,
What really happened? Was there a suicide? Wasn't there a suicide? Again?
(08:45):
We've got some sound from the cabinet meeting at which
Pam Bondi and the President spoke to this. Next, the
Texas flood rescue teams, and the latest on the Camp
Mystic tragedy.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
To all of that as we continue.
Speaker 8 (09:02):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
We are united with the other cities in the region,
and by the way, that started from day one. When
the first raids happened on June sixth, we immediately reached
out to our colleagues and other cities. We have eighty
eight cities in our county, and knowing that what was
happening in La would soon be in other cities as well,
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we wanted to make sure that we were all kind
of on the same page, all had the information. But
what we have experienced over these last few weeks has
just been shocking, as the city attorney mentioned yesterday, seeing troops, troops,
some on horseback, ride through a children's summer camp, disrupting
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that traumatizing the kids. Although we don't know if they
actually knew, we hope they didn't because they were ushered
down stairs out of the public eye in order to
be protected protected from their military. And I will tell
you I talked to one youngster eight years old and
just went up and talked to him, and he immediately
(10:15):
started expressing the fears he has over ice unsolicited and
I don't think that he was aware of what happened.
But you have a situation now where people are walking
down the street, a car will pull up no license plate.
Men will jump out, completely masked, pull guns on whoever
it is and take them away. Aside from the fact
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that this is unconstitutional, how do we know the difference
between this and a kidnapping? And so it creates a
public safety problem because of individuals in the city and
this has already happened, call it up and report it
as a kidnapping. Then you have LAPD go out and
then you have a mess which has happened several times
(10:57):
that could put many people in danger. So I think,
you know, once upon a time we had checks and
balances in our country.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Now, I say, instead of three co equal.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Branches of the government, it seems as though we just
have one branch of the government. We have the administration,
the House, and the Senate. Essentially, they gave their gavels
over to Pennsylvania Avenue. And what the President did in
the first administration significantly altered the courts. Having said that
the courts we will still go to for a remedy.
Speaker 10 (11:29):
As we are today, it is critical that.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
We use every single venue, every single possibility of seeking justice.
Speaker 10 (11:39):
And that's what we're doing today.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
And I do hope that the courts, especially issue this
injunction and stop this. But one thing about our city,
and I say this every time because I think it's
so important, our city is definitely united. You don't see
dissension here. You see a city that is united because
this is who we are. We are a city of immigrants,
(12:02):
and we will stand with Angelinos regardless of what country
they came from, when they.
Speaker 10 (12:07):
Got here, or why they're here.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
And so with that, I am proud to stand in
unity as we file this lawsuit and seek justice, and
hopefully that will come in the form of an injunction.
Speaker 10 (12:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
That's Charlie, Mayor Karen Bass.
Speaker 11 (12:24):
And now a city that is the third largest city
in our county and that has been the site of
many of these unprovoked raids, I'm proud to introduce Mayor
Victor Cordo of Pasadena.
Speaker 12 (12:39):
Thank you, madam, so mutnian colleagues. Mayor Bass, I'm joined
here by our own city attorney in passing the Michelle Bonneries.
Let me just say that what is occurring in our country,
and certainly in Pasadena and Los Angeles in our region,
is unacceptable. Not too long ago, we had three gentlemen
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who were on their way to work in the Burn
Area in Altadena, sitting at a bus stop. What I
say is enjoying the breakfast of Champions donuts, juice and
milk and waiting for the bus to pick them up
to go help our alien community in the Burn area.
And they were picked up by armed and massmen in
(13:22):
Pasadena who also pulled a gun out on a resident
in Pasadena and aimed that gun towards that resident. Behind
that resident was a parking lot well a sidewalk full
of people. Behind them, a parking lot in front of
a grocery store two blocks from my home where my
(13:44):
family and I shop. It's unacceptable in my neighborhood. It's
unacceptable in every neighborhood in this county, in the state.
And I would say to you the country in the
world for an armed man to jump out of of
a vehicle, not identify themselves, wheeled a weapon towards innocent bystanders.
(14:05):
Imagine the Parade of Terribles. If that officer or agent
had tripped, accidentally or intentionally pulled, the trigger missed, and
an errant bullet would have gone into that crowd, the
parking lot and or the grocery store.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 12 (14:23):
Followed following those actions, a woman on her way to
work on a Sunday afternoon or Sunday morning, I should see,
all right.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
So we're listening to the mayor of Pasadena. The Corto
gives some comments.
Speaker 13 (14:37):
So we've also heard from the La city attorney who
said that disproportionate force and tactics US and was she
categorized as unconstitutional. Raids and round ups in the city
are now the two forces behind this lawsuit here.
Speaker 12 (14:49):
We also heard from Mayor bass.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
She talked about there being eighty eight cities within La
County and they are all joined and united in one
in one.
Speaker 14 (15:01):
Yeah, that seems to be the collective now between Mayor
bas and as you heard the mayor Pasadena, Victor Gordo
and city Attorney Heidi feldtsling Soto talking about it, seems
like a more collective effort on their pushback against the
Immigration enforcement raids.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah. I want to say the inflection point there really
been two of them. One of them is a legal
one and the other is an optical one. The legal
one is the lawsuits to which the mayor has referred
and she's suing for any number of things related to
what she feels and she is maintaining legally are raids
(15:37):
and actions in her city that don't conform to the
legal specifications that the Department of Heal nan Security has
to and ICE specifically has to adhere to. The second
is the optical inflection point, during which yesterday you have
this invasion of MacArthur Park by Rens law enforcement on
(16:02):
a horseback and ICE agents, and it was this bizarre
sweep of a park that had no disruption going on,
nothing out of the ordinary in fact, many of these
areas of downtown Los Angeles are not as popular as
they were even a month ago because of these raids.
(16:25):
But in any case, when federal agents on a horseback,
you know, sweep through MacArthur Park and you know, a
helicopter is there was a black helicopter that was also
part of this thing, it was like, what's going on here?
It just has the look of a show of theater,
(16:47):
and I think, honestly, that's what it was. And then
the mayor shows up and it also has the show
of theater, you know, public official showing up to this
over the top display of force. It just seemed like
the whole situation was designed for photo ops. I mean again, though,
(17:10):
I'm going to say the Feds, you don't need to
bring a black Hawk helicopter and men on horseback and
troops through MacArthur Park. There again, is just nothing more
there than the theater of enforcement. And you know, we
talked yesterday about the fact that I get it you
(17:32):
want to send a message that you're tough on illegal immigration.
I think one of the big things that happened with
illegal immigration was that everyone Republican Democrat, I mean not
to a person but I think in the main and
all polling bore this out.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Was on the same page.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Hey, southern border, it's a problem, Biden, Obama, whatever, whoever's
in charge, it's a problem. Trump will handle this problem.
The Democrats have slept on it. And again we can
get into it. Democrats part of that bipartisan bill that
was really authored by the GOP at the very end,
but they waited too long on it, and so you know,
(18:13):
you pay a political price for that. But my point
is that is different than sweeping MacArthur Park with a
bunch of Feds on horseback and a black Hawk helicopter.
You can stop the southern border, and the southern border
flow has been stopped, but you have to have some
consideration for a city that you're just turning upside down.
(18:34):
We have the story yesterday, but Cole's is closing downtown.
There are a bunch of restaurants closing downtown. The fashion
district is being hard to hit by this. Businesses are
having troubles sustaining themselves because the downtown foot traffic has
dropped off so quickly. But why is that. It's not
just because of some of these arrests. It's because of
these shows the theater associated with the Marines there with
(19:00):
these guys on horseback yesterday, these sweeps that are just
over the top. So there comes a point of diminishing
returns on this and we are way past that point,
I think on some level. I mean, I don't care
how you feel about Los Angeles. We have a homeless problems,
we have problems with business owners, we have taxation problems
(19:22):
with business owners being over tax There's a lot of
pressure if you've got a small business person in Los
Angeles just to make ends meet. And so it's tough
enough without the FEDS coming in and scaring the crap
out of everybody. I'm just saying that, guys, we can't
lose our heads over this stuff. But sadly, my pleas
(19:46):
and the pleas of local officials are falling on deaf
ears when it comes to the Feds. They seem to
want to make an example of LA. They also, I think,
like messing with LA. I just said it. They like
messing with the community. And Republican Democrat Maga or non maga,
you should be bothered by that. I just you know, hey,
(20:09):
I have pride in a lot of stuff that's associated
with Los Angeles. There's a lot of great stuff here.
We have big city problems like a lot of big
cities have, but we don't need the FEDS screwing with us.
We need the FEDS helping us. Anyway, the comments of
the mayor associated with legal action, and we'll see how
(20:29):
this all plays out, but right now it's a pretty
bad look, i'd say for the Feds. Now, when we
come back, let's get to Texas and the latest there.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Just in the last half hour, the mayor of Los Angeles,
Karen Bass, with a press conference in which she made
the announcement that there are legal actions they're going to
be taken against the federal government. And this is, again,
as I was saying, sort of a watershed moment in
all of this, as the example is being made of
(21:15):
Los Angeles and the presence of the FEDS here is
more prominent than anywhere else in the country. And you
know who lives in downtown Los Angeles is also an
outstanding member of our news teams, Michael Monks, who joins
us now.
Speaker 15 (21:29):
It's my pleasure to be here. That was quite a
news conference because it is another indicator of the escalation
of this ongoing battle between local leaders in La County
and the City of Los Angeles and the federal government,
and the war of words has only heightened in recent days.
I think the display in MacArthur Park yesterday was a
(21:52):
motivator to push this press conference forward. But it's not
an insignificant announcement that the city has made. And by
the way, this was not just the city of Lass Angelis.
That is also the County of Los Angeles and multiple
other cities within La County that have now joined a
lawsuit filed by the ACLU against the Trump administration in
an attempt to get some of these raids to stop.
(22:13):
They call them unconstitutional in violations of the Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
You know, the raids are one thing.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
This over the top theater that went on yesterday with
MacArthur Park, you know, and the was the mounted cops
and I guess there were the Feds who are on.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Horseback, the Blackhawk calicopter.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I mean, these are things that are associated with the
theater of the presence of them being here.
Speaker 15 (22:36):
It's not associated even with the raids, right, And that
is exactly what local officials have been saying. They said
that at yesterday's news conference that was called in direct
response to the action, and it's what we heard again
reiterated today at the City Attorney's office, in the office
of Heidefeldstein Soto, who hosted this press conference and announced
this lawsuit today alongside La Mayor Bass, that this is
(22:59):
sowing chaos, this is sowing fear, and the action in
MacArthur Park is indicative of the lack of preparation, the
lack of a plan on behalf of the federal government
to follow through with what they've been promising. Now, there's
no question that there are detainments taking place, that people
are being taken into custody, and that is what President
Trump has called for, mass deportations, but there have been
(23:22):
questions around who exactly are you going after. You said
you were going after the worst of the worst, the
violent criminals, but we're seeing a lot of images from
car washes and home depots and that sort of thing.
Keep in mind, there are plenty of people who voted
for President Trump with the idea that mass deportations meant
every single person who is here illegally, so they are
(23:44):
happy to see this, but there may be others who
are more swayable and more sympathetic to maybe a more
moderate approach to this. Yes, please get rid of the
violent criminals, but let's have a conversation about some of
these other people who are here.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I just hear more more in that the idea somehow
that this isn't what I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I hear a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
And so those who felt we should take an aggressive
stand on immigration are still somewhat disillusioned with the way
it's actually going down.
Speaker 15 (24:13):
And President Trump is not somebody who will walk away
from a fight, especially one to be had in public,
no matter how small the stakes. But these stakes are
quite high for a lot of people living in Los Angeles,
whether they're here legally or not, but particularly the people
who are living here illegally, and there are many of them.
(24:34):
That's why you see so much enforcement, because if you're
going to hit the numbers that the federal government has
said it wants to hit. We've heard from Stephen Miller,
an advisor to the White House, three thousand a day, Well,
you got to go where the illegal immigrants are, and
there are a lot of them in Los Angeles County
and southern California, So that's why we're seeing it. But
as these war of words heats up, it does concern
(24:58):
the public that these aren't serious actions on either side.
You know, Are we just showboating? Are we flexing on
one another to score political points when there are actual
lives at stake?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I mean, there's definitely a flex And I was saying
yesterday that it looked like a photo op on both sides,
you know. I mean, if you had to do it cinematically,
you would, you know, bring in the FEDS with the
heat and the horses and the blackall calicopter and you'd
have the mayor pull up and go, you guys can't
do this to my city.
Speaker 15 (25:31):
I mean, it was very the most dramatic scene we've
seen since all this started.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Again.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
We have seen the the enforcement actions at the car washes,
at the street vendors, at the home depots, but this
was something out of where else Hollywood, right here in
Los Angeles, to have that type of scene, to have
the mayor show up and do what she did, getting
on the phone ordering them to leave, you know, even
though she doesn't have the authority to do that, but
(25:56):
making a stand for what she believes in. DHS officials
there standing for what they believe in. We heard their
comments after that. We're not going anywhere. Get used to us,
he said to the mayor, the leader of the border
patrol here in this area. So what happens next? That
is there's a lack of clarity in a couple of areas. One,
(26:17):
what is the immigration policy of the White House? Is
it everybody who's here illegally? We know that they've said this.
If you're here illegally, you are subject to arrest and deportation.
But who are the priorities? Who are you targeting when
these officials, these agents are out moving around. Secondly, what
was the MacArthur Park incident about? What did you come
(26:39):
there to do? Because they didn't do anything right. Nobody
was detailed, nobody was even questioned. It was a big
show of force and then a very quick dispersal. I
saw some reporting from independent journalist Ken Clippenstein. Now he
is of a more liberal ideology. Is written for publications
like The Nation and The Intercept, respectable but liberal leaning
(27:03):
or leftists even publications. He obtained some documents related to
that activity and it appears that the plan was foiled
by just poor preparation. This was to involve a lot
of different agencies with a focus on the manufacturing and
distribution of fake IDs, which I have seen MacArthur bikers absolutely,
(27:26):
so that stuff is taking in the right neighbor right.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But they didn't do anything.
Speaker 15 (27:31):
They didn't stop anybody, they didn't ask any questions, and
they have still not said exactly what they were doing there.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I was trying to find the DHS budget because the
new budget for Department of Homeland Security and ICE is
off the charts. It is a bigger budget than many
countries have militarily.
Speaker 15 (27:52):
And so when you hear the border patrol chief in
this region say, get used to it, We're not going anywhere.
He's got a lot more money to use. The agency's
going to have a lot more resources. So regardless of
whether you are a high target, high priority criminal illegal
alien in this community, you're going to be at risk
(28:12):
for rast and deportation.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
One hundred and seven point nine billion dollars. And you're right,
they'll I mean to me, you know, it's it's typical Washington.
They waste money in so many different ways. I mean,
they're just setting it ablaze. I'm sure, you know. But they,
even as they spend all this money, don't really have
their act together. There's not a coherent policy. And you
(28:36):
have the President of the United States, Donald Trump saying,
you know, I think there should be a program for
farm workers or agriculture. I love my farmers. Let's try
to work something out. You can hear him working it
out in the moment, that there should be something like
a Brassero program, which was a successful program for decades.
You know, there are workers who can come recognized as
(28:56):
workers by the federal government, and they can be legalized
to the extent that they are working in all of
these different professions.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And that's what you're hearing Trump kind of work out
in his head.
Speaker 15 (29:07):
Well, the local officials can't compete either with the President's
train of thought or with the one hundred and seven
billion dollars now promised to these enforcement activities. What they
do have is perhaps the last recourse is the courts.
And that's what we saw today that is the catalyst
for this conversation that we are having. That the city,
the county and other cities in La County have joined
(29:28):
this lawsuit filed by the ACLU against it named Secretary
Nome in the lawsuits, so it's Vasquez versus Nome, but
the Homeland Security Secretary the Trump administration basically saying that
US Border Patrol agents have relied on perceived race or
ethnicity to select you to stop, conducted suspicionless stops, executed
warrantless home raids, and carried out illegal work site operations.
(29:52):
They say these illegal practices violate the Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So that's the strategy. Now, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
By the way you live downtown, I kind of did
a little mini rant about what's happening to the downtown area.
I think because of this federal presence that's over the
top in my judgment, I'm going to just again, it's
not an enforcement thing. It's a theater thing. I don't
know what's going on. It's like they're just trying to
scare everybody.
Speaker 15 (30:18):
Well, there's no question that there's a sense of fear
down there. There are fewer shops that are open, there
are definitely fewer customers that are coming down. But again,
you've got a lot of people who support This is
what they voted for, this is what they wanted to
see and now what la And even if you support
this or not, what everyone here will have to grapple
with is that there was a significant portion of the
(30:40):
local economy powered by illegal immigrants that will not be
easily replaced.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Thank you. That is what I worry about.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Also, is that this economy could get into a free
fall quickly anyway out of time. Michael, mom's so great.
Good that you're both a resident and you've got a
real perspective on this from a newstandpoint.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
All right, listen to Tim conwaytun You're on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim. We got the whole
crew here.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
We talked about the TSA with their new screening policy
already in effect at some airports. Keep the sapatos on, kids,
keep those shoes hot. Yeah, the long national nightmare where
we have to go barefoot through that machine is done.
(31:29):
There's still too many ways to screw with us for me, sir,
you gotta put it in the bin. Don't put it
in the bin. Take your jacket off. Don't take your
jacket off. Your watch is fine, your belt is fine. No,
wait a minute, take off your watch. Take off your belt.
I mean, it really is like a game show going
through there, and you need an other worldly zen quality
(31:51):
to not let it bother you. I mean, especially if
you're late. And then when they pull the one bag aside,
your other bag got through, but your like little handbag
pushed aside in that sort of waiting area where now
you need somebody to wipe that swab or look at
whatever stuff. They have to find some toothbrush that has
(32:11):
too sharp a thing on the end of it. Anyway,
the good news is that shoes can remain on slowly.
It's being phased in, but lax is one of the
airports that will have an early phase in of it.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
So that's the good news.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
This is there's no other way to put it. It's
a huge tragedy what happened in Texas and what continues
to happen in the recovery effort.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Now a fifth day of this and the death toll
over one hundred.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
In the Texas Hill Country.
Speaker 16 (32:46):
This morning, response teams both official and volunteer are combing
through mud and dense forest searching for answers.
Speaker 17 (32:53):
It's one of the most devastating things I've ever seen
in my life. But that devastation goes eighty miles down
the water, and that devastation goes anywhere from three quarters
of a mile to half a mile wide off of
the river as well.
Speaker 16 (33:07):
More than one hundred people died in the floods that
swelled river banks over the weekend. Camp Mystic, or at
least twenty seven campers and counselors died, said their hearts
are broken alongside the families, calling the floods an unimaginable tragedy.
Among the victims eight year old twin sisters Hannah and
Rebecca Lawrence, whose grandfather said their joy can never be forgotten.
(33:29):
Eight year old Anna Margaret Bellows was also at Camp Mystic.
Her mom spoke with our Houston station Katie r K.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
The main thing I.
Speaker 12 (33:36):
Want to convey is that our whole group.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Is so grateful for the counselors who loved our children
and protected them until the very end.
Speaker 16 (33:50):
In the wake of the storm, questions about the level
of preparedness across the region, ABC News has learned the
National Weather Service had surge staffing in place during the storm.
Five meteorologists were working when there are usually two.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's really important because I know a lot is being
made right now of budget cuts and layoffs at the
National Weather Service at Noah, which is the umbrella agency
under which the National Weather Service works. But they did
anticipate this event and they hired, I shouldn't say hied.
They put on shift more forecasters than would normally man
(34:31):
that shift, and so you had redundancy there. You had,
if you will, kind of all hands on deck, all
the hands that were available. Anyway, from a forecasting standpoint.
Speaker 16 (34:40):
Five meteorologists were working when there are usually two. Alert
started the day before the floods, with the first flash
flood warning issued around one am. Day of the first
flash flood emergency four am. That is not what woke
Stewart Gross from bed.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
What was it that woke you up with fire department?
It wasn't the alert on your.
Speaker 16 (34:59):
Se Officials canceled a press conference yesterday afternoon amid questions
about the area's alert system.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
It's very tough to make those calls because oh, we
also don't want to do as cry will.
Speaker 18 (35:09):
Several meteorologists urge everyone get that.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Look, I know a little something about this. I worked
in meteorology for thirty five years, and the government always
will err on the side of safety. That's why I
used to have to go on television so often and
explain that it's not that flash flooding is likely. It's
(35:35):
just that the elements are in place, and they have to,
from a government standpoint, protect the public, and so they
issue a flash flood watch that means the elements are
in place that could produce flash flooding. A flash flood
warning means there is flash flooding going on now at
the time of this warning in your area, the area
(35:57):
that is specified in this warning. When they say they
don't want to cry wolf, I'm calling bs on that.
The whole idea is that you cry wolf. The whole
idea is that you hit that alert so that people
understand the elements are in place that might produce the
kind of thing that we've seen. Now, this is an
(36:18):
extraordinary thing that happened. But I'm just challenging this one thing.
I don't think you have any I guess high ground
logically when you say, oh, we just didn't want to
like overworn the public, that's just not true. You overworn
the public all the time, and you should. You're a
(36:39):
government agency charge with the safety of the public.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
So go ahead and overworn them.
Speaker 16 (36:43):
Officials canceled a press conference yesterday afternoon amid questions about
the area's alert system.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's very tough to make those calls because oo, we
also don't want to do as cry wolf.
Speaker 18 (36:52):
Several meteorologists urge everyone get a Noah weather radio as
a more reliable way to receive alerts when your cell
phone or low sirens don't work. It doesn't require cell service,
is battery powered, and can cost less than thirty dollars.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
That's probably true, and it's probably I think within reasonable
expectations that somebody on that crew, you have a summer
camp there, have one of those things, you know. I
think we've become so accustomed to everything and all alerts
coming through the phone that we figure we've all got
phones and if something happens, we'll get alerted. But clearly
(37:30):
the twenty two warnings, that's how many. There were twenty
two warnings from the National Weather Service, and all those
warnings used escalating language as time went on. They didn't
get picked up in time to do anything, and it.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Just came out.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
By the way, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 14 (37:50):
The Associated pressress reported that there apparently was an inspection
that had been done for emergency preparedness at that Camp
Mystic one day before and it was approved.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh that's wild, that's eerie. I mean, really, that's just extraordinary.
Speaker 14 (38:08):
Yeah, they said they're still trying to figure out the timeline,
as you know, as they say that that there was
a warning that was put out earlier in the day
or the day before, and they they're trying to figure
out why nothing happened because they put that floodwatch warning
in the area on July thirty, just after one o'clock
in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, exactly, So in other words, no one was asleep.
This whole idea that you know, this happened in the
middle of the night. A lot of the warnings didn't
go I mean, sure, it's true that many of the
warnings did happen during the middle of the night, but
what Crozier's talking about was happening in the middle of
the afternoon.
Speaker 14 (38:41):
They said at least one of the roughly eight eighteen
camps along the river there did move dozens of campus
to higher ground.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The question as to whether or not layoffs at the
federal level affected it, I wanted to spend just a second.
That's why I replayed for you, the fact that there
were how to give meteorologists on board. There were five
there where they're normally only two. I mean, they really
did redouble efforts because they forecasters saw what was happening.
(39:10):
And the only thing I think that is worthy of
a beat of a little attention is the fact that
the liaison person a warning coordination meteorologist. This is a
really important role that essentially acts as the liaison between
forecasters and emergency management agencies in that area to plan
(39:32):
how information about extreme weather events is actually going to
get disseminated to the public. That person was missing, That
position was eliminated. The federal government went through all these cuts, right,
I mean we read about them, and among the casualties
was that warning coordination meteorologies. So if you want to
(39:53):
point a finger there, that's where it ends up. But
it's not with weather forecasters. They did, I thought, based
on everything I've seen, exactly what they're supposed to do,
and there were plenty of them. So it's a sad
fact that we have to review these specific specifics after
this tremendous loss, But we review the specific show that
(40:15):
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come back. We talked to Carrie Flynn from Axios. Big
big changes at CNN. They're relaunching something. I don't really
even understand what they're relaunching. That's why Carrie Flynn's going
to be here. We'll talk to her next Conway Show.
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