September 11, 2025 • 31 mins
Massive Manhunt – Authorities continue an intensive search for the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s killing.
Jay Leno Speaks Out – Leno reflects on the death of free speech in the current climate.
FBI Reward & Evidence – FBI announces a $100,000 reward, confirms recovery of key evidence, including a high-powered rifle found in the woods.
Voices of Faith – Replay of John Kobylt’s interview with Charlie Kirk’s pastor, Rob McCloy, offering a personal and spiritual perspective on the tragedy.
Jay Leno Speaks Out – Leno reflects on the death of free speech in the current climate.
FBI Reward & Evidence – FBI announces a $100,000 reward, confirms recovery of key evidence, including a high-powered rifle found in the woods.
Voices of Faith – Replay of John Kobylt’s interview with Charlie Kirk’s pastor, Rob McCloy, offering a personal and spiritual perspective on the tragedy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI Am six and you're listening to the Conway
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app for waiting for
a possible press conference regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
and we'll have that for you immediately, whether we're on
the air or in a commercial break or a news
break or traffic break, we'll have that for you immediately.
(00:23):
They're still looking for this guy that did it, the
guy that shot Charlie Kirk figured death and killed him yesterday,
and a lot of people have seen it. It's hard
to avoid the video. If you're just scrolling through TikTok
or YouTube or Instagram or Facebook, it probably's popped up
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three or four times. And as much as you don't
want to look at it, it's everywhere and there's people
analyzing it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Did he die instantly? Was he alive when he got
to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
There's a lot of theories on there's also some odd theories.
There was a plane that took off from a nearby
airport about ten minutes after this happened yesterday, and then
that plane stopped transponding its position shortly after it took off,
and maybe the guy was on that plane there's a
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lot of theories out there, and some crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Ones, and some of them that seemed legitimate.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
But the manhunt continues, as the FBI released photos of
the person of interest.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Tonight, more than twenty four hours after conservative activist Charlie
Kirk was killed by a single bullet before a crowd
of thousands of college students. A massive man hunt underway
for the shooter still at large, the FBI releasing these
images asking the public for help. What looks to be
a young man dressed in black and a shirt that
appears to have a flag on it, wearing a ball
cap and sunglasses. Authorities combing through video footage stitching together
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his path from the moment he arrived on campus at
eleven fifty two am.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
We have tracked his movements onto the campus through the
stairwells up to the roof, across the roof to a
shooting location.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They believe he watched from that perch for some twenty
minutes as Kirk ripped up the crowd.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I can't believe with the amount of death threats that
I've heard that Charlie Kirk received hundreds people sending stuff
to his house. They knew where he lived I can't
believe that there wasn't some kind of Secret Service style
protection on these roofs for this man.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Somebody dropped the ball when it comes to security, and
maybe it was Charlie Kirk himself. Maybe he didn't feel
like it was necessary. Maybe he was offered that kind
of protection and said no, that's possible. But it seems
like in retrospect that there should have been a lot
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more security for this man, a lot more.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And at twelve twenty three three PM, as Kirk was
answering a question about mass shootings, that sniper more than
one hundred yards away fired that single shot.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You don't have any masks here in America over the
last ten years.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Bouncing or not counting day finals great.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
In an instant panic, students ducking for cover, and as
they did, cameras catching a shadowy figure in black on
a rooftop.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We were able to track his movements as he moved
to the other side of the building, jumped off of
the building, and fled off of the campus and into
a neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And prince they believe are from the shooter's palm and forearm.
Investigators searching back yards.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
They're looking, they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Someone going house to house, and right in front of us,
you can see members of the FBI's Evidence Response team
combing this neighborhood looking for any clues. Yesterday, this neighborhood
was crawling with SWAT teams looking for the suspect, who
they believe.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Had walked through here.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And in the woods nearby, law enforced said they made
a discovery a high powered rifle wrapped in a towel
and three unspent cartridges inscribed with words and symbols. Today,
authorities working on what those markings might mean. But tonight,
the shooter is still at large and the campus a
crime scene, pictures now telling a tragically familiar story. And
abandoned classroom laptops still open, a backpack left in a chair,
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and this table's piled high, a makeshift attempt to barricade
a door, and among the youngest witnesses the horror of
the shooting.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Who is traumatizing, like traumatizing, like the blood was everywhere, Mike,
I just give them.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, these kids are never going to forget that. These
young kids who had to experience that, you know, Utah
Valley University probably one of the safest places in America,
certainly probably one of the safest places in Utah to
send your kids to. And now the parents have to
think about that and the kids going through that trauma
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and those nightmares, and that campus is closed. They're not
going to open May they said Monday, but it may
not even be Monday. And I don't know what they
do with that, with that quad where this happened. Do
they reconfigure it? Do they leave it there the way
it is? Will people gather there every day in remembering
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Charlie Kirk. Will they'd be a statue that is erected
there to him? Will they again try to reconfigure it
so nobody knows where it happened.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't know. There's a lot of questions surrounding this.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Twelve year old Mia granted, eleven year old el Steele
said they stood less than fifteen feet from Kirk when
that shot rang out.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Everybody was ducking, probably wondering if there was going to
be another shot fired. Yeah, so we all I covered
my head down, We all cover our heads and just
some duve down.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well said prayers.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
In our minds.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Do you remember what you prayed for? And how you
praised to be.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Safe and just to have like Charlie had a miracle made,
or like just how must be saved no more other shooters.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Charlie Kirk, just thirty one years old, leaves behind his wife, Erica,
and two young children. Today, his close friend, Vice President JD. Vance,
flying to Utah to escort the family back home to
Phoenix on Air Force two. President Trump has declared the
shooting a dark moment for America and Kirk a martyr,
today announcing he would be awarded the nation's highest civilian honor.
Speaker 8 (06:25):
Charlie is a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty,
and an inspiration to millions and millions of people. I'm
pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie
Kirk posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And it helped him track it his movements from the
moment he arrived on campus, entered a building about two
hundred yards behind me, climbed the stairwell, took that perch
on the rooftop, and after taking his shot, scampering across
the roof, somehow jumping off that roof and walking into
a nearby neighborhood in author to say, because he was
a college aged man, he was able to blend in
that crowd, the chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And they have one hundred thousand dollars reward for the
capture of this guy. And I think they'll find him
relatively soon. I think he'll make a mistake and the FBI,
there's a lot of people looking for this guy, a
lot very tough to hide for a long time in
this country, very very tough to do.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
All right, we're live.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, we got a lot more coming your way, including
John Colebelt's interview with the priest or pastor that was
with him in Utah when this happened. Also some audio
of Charlie Kirk's remains on Air Force one returning to Phoenix, Arizona.
We'll have that for you as well, and any press
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conference that comes up with more information will have that
for you immediately Here on KFI.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
If we have more news.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We'll give it to you. More we'll give it to you.
If the press conference happens, we'll give that to you
as well. On Charlie Kirk. Yesterday we had Jay Leno
on he was, He called us and said he wanted
to come on and talk about Charlie Kirk. And he's usually,
you know, a very funny guy and very light, but
he was very serious about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Gravitated towards that and saw it on a social media
and I think really needed that at that point, to
listen to a guy like Jay Leno, who they've known
their whole lives, tried to make sense out of what
happened to Charlie Kirk. I'm going to play that for
you again, or at least most.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Of it here. It was yesterday on KFI.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Jay Leno was with us.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
You know, to me, it's not just it's not a
random shooting. I mean it suggests free speech to think
that you are so illiterate and so stupid you can't
answer verbally and you have to shoot somebody with a
gun to quote win the argument. You know, when I
was in school, Lively debate was unbelievable to have the
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SDS the students of Democratic Society debate somebody else. I
can remember when James Baldwin debated William F. Buckley at
Oxford University. It was just fascinating to here are two
guys both way smarter than I am, and I understood
both their point of view. It's just fascinating. I mean
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it's just I mean, school shooting. I don't understand those
at all acause those are so stupid. But this is
a political assassination of a man I didn't necessarily agree with,
but I certainly enjoyed listening to because oh I didn't
know that. Okay, and I I have to agree on everything.
I mean, we're in a point in this country where
if you don't agree with everybody and everything, you take
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out a gun and you shoot them, And especially on
a college campus. That's the last time something like this happened.
It got me. It was Kent State.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh yeah, during Vietnamium in.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
The national open fire on students.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But you know, Jay, you have a good point.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You know, watching a good debate is like watching a
boxing match where you know, one guy gets a good
jab and then the other guy does. And watching a
great debate is really entertaining. It should be for both sides.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Yeah, and a lot of times when you watch somebody
like Chairlie Kirk, it might enforce your own beliefs. March
or maybe it might change your mind, but at least
it gets you thinking, at least just thinking about what's
going on, you know. I mean, it's really it's such
an unbelievable right.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Let me ask you something.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You know, because you ran you know, the Tonight Show
for a long period of time. You know, you have
your garage, you got a lot of people working for you.
What happens when the main guy, you know, the main
pillar of a company like that is no longer around,
you think, turning point, he can go one of two ways. Either,
you know, they close up shop and you know and
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uh and everyone goes home, or it can get stronger
over this.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I have a feeling it's gonna be the latter.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think there's gonna be a lot more money coming
into this and a lot more people want to get involved.
And I think a lot of these kids are going
to go out and try to become the next Charlie
Kirk and and and go speak at at thousands of campuses.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Yeah, that's what you know. And again I'm not defending
or knocking anything that he says. It's just he's a
guy that's way more intelligent than me. They could out
debate me, and I could say to them, all right, okay,
you win. I still think you're wrong, right. The idea
that we can't do that anymore. The idea is have
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to take out a gun and shoot the other guy
because you lost a stupid argument. And from what I
understand about this man, he was not a bully. He
was not someone who berated people. I mean, he just
made it a point and it was interesting. You know,
I enjoy listening to the other side because that's how
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that's how I get smarter if somebody agrees with me
all the time, right, you know tonight show, I used
to tell everybody on the show, including the janitors and
the interns, you can pull a cord and stop the
train at anytime. If if you hear something you think it's.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
Stupid or not funny or whatever, give me, give me
a reason why. And did it make for.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
A longer day.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
We had a lot of We had a lot of
really loyal people after that because they felt they were
part of the program.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
You know, we live in a world now where everybody
feels like such an outsider every sin season, and it's
just it's very unsettling. This one really struck me too.
Anytime soon, it's to sassinated. But it's really the death
of free speech, the idea that, oh I don't want
to go to a campus in Utah. I mean, we're
not talking about how the Kegs of Insurrection New York City.
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I mean in the beautiful state of Utah.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, yeah, it's certainly a black eye for Utah.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
You're right, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I'm sure the
person probably wasn't eve in front of Utah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
But yeah, I'm sure he's probably correct.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, I was thinking about this last night when
I was you know, watching all the news stations and
trying to get as much information on it as possible,
And I think this is a real kick in the
teeth for young kids, for kids that are, you know,
fifteen through about twenty five. Charlie Kirk's audience was very,
very young, and they had had their freedom taken away
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from them during COVID. They a lot of them were
locked down for a year and a half, for eighteen months,
especially here in California, eighteen months. A lot of mister
their senior year for football, basketball, baseball, cheerleading, speech and debate,
the you know, the on campus events that you go
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through for your your senior year in high school, first
day back for your senior you know, your homecoming, you know,
the Christmas events, the Christmas show, maybe they you know,
the chorus, you're in the chorus or the band or whatever.
And a lot of kids missed that senior year, and
the other kids had a year and a half sitting
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at home. And if you were an only child, that
was very, very wearing on you, and you tried to
make it as pleasant as you could on your kids,
but you also had to go back to work. So
a lot of those kids were inside the house, and
a lot of them who may not have had you know,
a lot of friends were in the house for a
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year and a half and it probably drove them crazy.
And then they hooked up with this Charlie Kirk and
they saw the videos and they saw there's another way
to think about life, another way to go through life,
not necessarily what the you know, professors in college or
your teachers in high school were telling you every day.
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And this guy was the hero of these young kids,
especially young conservative kids in college, who always felt like
they had to keep their politics quiet. They couldn't wear
a Maga hat or a Trump shirt or a Republican
hat or wear an American flags that offended somebody. When
this guy that came to campus, they all gathered and
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for that one day, they felt like they could say
whatever they wanted to say. And they saw a huge
crowd gather and they're like, wait a minute, I was
going to Utah Valley College and this many people agree
with me. And those kids loved it, you know, whether
it was at Ball State or Washington, Colorado, whatever. When
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Charlie Cook, Charlie Kirk arrived on campus, the conservatives all
gathered and they looked around. They're like, wow, there's more.
I thought I was the only guy. I thought it
was just me and my buddy had to whisper in
the halls that we were conservative, and now there's thousands
and that gave him a lot of confidence and they
and that gave him a real true hero on campus,
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which was Charlie Kirk. And they took that away from them.
They took away their freedom in school for a year
and a half during COVID most states, and then they
came back. They were trying to assimilate and trying to
get back to normal, and they found this guy who
they loved and spoke like them, thought like them. Maybe
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their parents all thought like him as well, and they
got closer to the parents because they were conservative. The
parents were conservative, and they had that in common. They
got closer to their parents. Maybe they went to church
more because Charlie Kirk used to always talk about about
religion and his faith, and then they took that away
from him. And I bet these kids are angry as hell,
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angry as hell having a sit inside for year and
a half, they finally got out. They found somebody thinks
like him, and they took that away from him. And
I have a feeling there are thousands, maybe tens of
thousands or hundreds of thousands of kids who are going
to start their own Charlie's Army or Charlie Kirk Gang
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or whatever in the college, and this thing is going
to explode. It's going to have the exact opposite effect
of what that shooter wanted. I think that this is
going to be even going to be twenty thirty, one
hundred times more popular on campus because of what happened yesterday.
And it's a shame that it happened, but I think
it's going to the movement is going to explode, and
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I think you'll see it on campuses throughout the rest
of the year and in the future. As soon as
that press conference happens, we'll have it here on KFI.
It was supposed to be at five o'clock, but whatever
we're doing, we'll break in and we'll have that for you.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
You're listening to Tim Conway too on demand from KFI.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
AM sixty may or may not have a press conference
with regards to the assassination yesterday of Charlie Kirk, So
if that happens, we'll have it for you immediately. We
heard Jay Leno yesterday and the replayed a little of that.
And the hunt continues. The FBI is on the case
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in huge, huge numbers, with one hundred thousand dollars reward
for the arrest of this man that assassinated Charlie Kirk yesterday.
Let's get some more information on the FBI tonight.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
As the FBI sources for Charlie Kirk's assassin, they're zeroing
in on a high pirate single bolt action rifle that
they believe the suspect left behind, sources telling ABC News
based on the long distance from where the shot was
fired from an elevated position, the shooter likely had considerable
experience with firearms. The gun and consciousness are to be
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flown to the FBI's main LEFE laboratory in Quantico, Virginia
for the most technologically advanced forensic analysis. The bureau can
muster specifically to identify any latent fingerprints or DNA, and
authorities are trying to run down where and when the
gun was purchased, specifically its ownership history, and as for
those photos, Tonight's sources telling ABC News authorities are using
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facial recognition technology to help identify the person of interest.
They're offering a one hundred thousand dollars reward and establishing
additional tip line FBI dot gov slash Utah Valley Shooting
as they continue to piece together evidence which will lead
to the capture, with authorities described as a cold blooded,
calculating killer who remains at large. While they've not yet
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identified the person of interest, my sources are optimistic the
images are clear enough that someone will soon recognize the
man scene in those photos.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
All right, We're going to take a slightly earlier break
here and then come back and play the interview that
John Colbelt did with the pastor or the reverend that
or priest that Charlie Kirk. They convinced Charlie Kirk to
get into religion and combine religion with politics, because before
he talked to this reverend, Charlie Kirk said he would
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never wasn't interested in combining religion, his true deep faith
with politics, and this guy talked him into it. And
so we're going to come back and play an interview.
It's great. You'll want to hear this when we come back.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
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Speaker 1 (20:35):
A church, a chapel up in Ventura called God Speak.
It's funny because I know somebody that goes there, and
it's odd that they never mentioned Charlie Kirk. But they
got a great leadership up there. Leadership up there. I
think Micah Stephens is still up there. And this is
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Rob mc coy who's the pastor Emeritis. I think this
is another guy named Craig Craig Linquist up there, and
I guess I could look this up James Crawford. But
these guys are with God Speak Cavalry Chapel, and this
is one of the reasons why Charlie Kirk became so
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popular is because Rob McCoy, who you're going to hear
an interview with John Colebelt, convinced him to combine politics
with his religion and he became very successful. So it's
a great story. I'm gonna play it uninterrupted. It's about
seven and seven and a half minutes, and you'll get
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a real feel for what motivated a very young Charlie
Kirk to get more involved in politics and combine his
religion with politics.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
If I am six forty more stimulating talk radio John
Cobelt Show continues Welcome on every day from one until
four o'clock, and we have a special guest to come
on now. Pastor Rob McCoy was Charlie Kirk's spiritual advisor
and he is at the God Speak Cavalry Chapel in
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Newbury Park. That's where he has his church. At the moment,
he's in Arizona with Charlie Kirk's family, the wife and
the children and everyone else. It's a very difficult time
and we really appreciate Pastor Rob McCoy coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Pastor, welcome, how are you, thanks?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
John? Well, all things considered, doing pretty good, talk.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
About your relationship with Charlie Kirk, what he was like.
I know his faith was obviously paramount in his life,
central to everything that he believed in everything he talked about.
Why don't you describe your relationship with him?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Sure, gentlemen, and you're hitting the nail on the head.
His faith was central to all he was about. I
met Charlie back with April twenty nineteen. We were I
had a conference coming off from speaking and he looked
at me. And the only reason why I knew him
is because my son was a big fan and I
wasn't a social media follower. And he said, I didn't
know a guy like you existed. And I said, what's that?
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And he said a pastor in politics, because at the
time I was pastoring, but I was also on the
city council on Thousand Oaks. And I said I didn't
know a guy like you existed. And he said what's that?
And I said a young conservative and we both laughed
and became friends. I said, you know, why don't you
come and speak at our church? He says, I don't
speak in churches. I said, why is that? Charlie said,
because churches don't want me I'm too political, and I said, Charlie,
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politics is the highest form of community. It combines morality, associability.
If God didn't want us to be in politics, he
would have never invented marriage. You need to be in
a church. Since then, I've seen him speak in person,
probably over five hundred times. I'd never seen him nervous
until that morning, that Sunday morning, he was scared to
death and he was one of the best sermons I've
ever heard. And since then he's probably spoken to in
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over a thousand churches across the country. And together we
started what's called Turning Point Faith and that has over
four thousand partner churches. And the idea is, you know
that the misunderstanding that you know here we're coming up
to our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary or birthday of
a nation. It wasn't until maybe fifty years ago that
they took the first sixteen words of the First Amendment
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and they flipped it and they didn't say freedom of religion.
They made freedom from religion. And then secular progressivism comes
in and we got the mess we're in today. Charlie
was a phenom. He took this on at seventeen created
the largest conservative youth movement in the world, let alone America.
I was four days ago. I was with him in Korea,
and that country, under this new president, Lee is is
raiding churches and Charlie stood with them, and one pastor
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was arrested and he was getting ready on today's show
to defend him prior to being murdered. Here we all
are in mourning, but we're not in despair. Charlie. Charlie
inspired the entire generation young people. And that coward who
murdered him, he just hit the hornet's nest. These young
kids are there, they're could arise. They just created a mob.
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But it's it's a mob of Western civilization preserving and advancing.
And I miss him, but I know where he is.
I have no despair, it's we have hope.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
So and you're with the family now.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, So, my wife and I heard the news. We
jumped on a plane headed to Salt Lake. We were
with the family last night. As we were departing, they're
coming back with the Vice President getting ready to land.
Shortly we landed ahead of them, and I'm taking a
call with you guys.
Speaker 12 (25:37):
He credited you with combining Christianity with his political beliefs.
As you were talking about a couple of minutes ago.
That that's when he started creating like a combination message,
because Turning Point was primarily a secular message until you
two got together, and then he started creating a mixture
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of the two religion and politics.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Charlie was a phenom. He was an autodidac, self taught.
He didn't go to college, but he could run circles
around professors and debate. He was a voracious reader. I
just reminded him of America's history. You know, it used
to be the pulpits in America. You go there for
your basically voter guide. You know the first sixteen words
of the First Amendment, Congress will make no law respecting
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the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
No government's going to get in the way of man
worshiping God. And if you think you're supposed to check
your convictions at the door as a citizen before you
can participate in any type of election, that's not what
the founders intended. They believed in a separation of church
and state. They wanted the state out of the church.
But you can't remove the church out of the state,
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meaning I am who I am, and I worship who
I worship, and those convictions are going to dictate how
I operate as a citizen. And Charlie saw that connection,
and through Hillsdale College a number of other things. It
reignited because he had been raised in a generation of
churches that you know, pastors say, look, I don't do politics.
Politics is dirty. I just preached the Gospel. And I
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told Charlie, I go, that's gnosticism. You somehow, you know,
it's moral pietism, that you're too pure to participate in
the blood sport of politics, even though we're to contend
for our neighbor. And for one of these young ones
to stumble, it'd be better for you'd have a millstone
tied around your neck and cast and devasotion. He's contending
for youth across the country with pulpits. Wouldn't they just
say I'd preached the gospel and they say politics is dirty,
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And I go, Charlie. My response to pastors like that is,
so's the church. What's your point? And if they say, look,
we're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils,
only if Jesus is running for office, will you ever
not be voting for the lesser of two evils? We're
supposed to contend for that. And within two days he
had devoured every early sermon from the Eastern Seaboard during
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the War of Independence, including Jonathan Mayhew, and he'd read
them all. And he just was running circles around me historically,
and I was blown away, and it just it transformed him.
So from there on out, even with all of his
campus events, he would boldly share about the Lord because
he saw that they were interconnected.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
And was he ever afraid? I mean, he got plenty
of death threats over the years, a lot of harsh criticism,
especially with the way the internet and social media is,
it's quite vile. Did that bother him, restrain him at all?
Scare him at all?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
You know? I was asked for a comment on that,
and I don't recall my exact words, but I did say,
Charlie built the largest conservative youth movement in the world
with nothing more than the power of the spoken word,
with truth and logic. And he was threatened every day.
And he never used violence, He never asked for violence.
He used words, but he was threatened every day by
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those who couldn't contend with logic and reason. They threatened
to kill him every day, and he got up every
day not afraid of death because he trusted in his savior.
He knew that his heart was secure in the Lord,
and he didn't fear death. And so he get up
every day and contend for truth. A cowardice murderer. And
that's what evil does. Evil takes life, defended life, and
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evil mutilates children. Charlie contended for these in jumaine hormone
blockers that you won't even give the serial rapists in prison,
but you can give them to our fifteen year olds
in California, and they call that healthcare, and they mutilate them.
And he would hear the stories of Chloe Cole at
fifteen with a double masted ectomy, and he'd look and
he'd say, where are the adults in the room. And
for that, these cowards who couldn't contend or even give
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the answer to those questions, who are making major money
on the mutilation of our kids, decided to put a
bullet in him. Well, that's what evil does. Evil takes life.
Charlie's not dead like what Billy Graham said, one day
you're going to hear the story of my death or
the reporting of my death. Don't believe it. I'll be
more alive than ever. Charlie's living. He just began to
truly live that day. That shooter he didn't kill him.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That's great if that speaks to you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And maybe you're involved in another church that has a
far left leaning liberal sermon every week and you're sort
of tired of sitting through that every week, sitting on
your hands, and you know, watching what you say around
other members of the church, and you want to change
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churches and be around people that think like Rob or
Charlie Kirk. That's not a bad move. God Speak Cavalry
Chapel and Thousand Oaks. God Speak Cavalry Chapel, Thousand Oaks.
It's three twenty via Bresis in Newbury Park. Looks like
a beautiful church, and you will be amongst other people
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who think like you, and it might be worth the drive.
Might be worth the drive to check it out, and
you know, be a part of the church that was
really respected by Charlie Kirk. So it's God Speak Cavalry Chapel,
God Speak speak, And I think they're going to get
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a lot more people up there and donating money to
them and sitting amongst people that believe the same things
they believe. And you can online it's God Speak Cavalry,
God speak dot com. I believe, Uh yeah, god speak
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They're still looking for this guy that did it, the
guy that shot Charlie Kirk figured death and killed him yesterday,
and a lot of people have seen it. It's hard
to avoid the video. If you're just scrolling through TikTok
or YouTube or Instagram or Facebook, it probably's popped up
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three or four times. And as much as you don't
want to look at it, it's everywhere and there's people
analyzing it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Did he die instantly? Was he alive when he got
to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
There's a lot of theories on there's also some odd theories.
There was a plane that took off from a nearby
airport about ten minutes after this happened yesterday, and then
that plane stopped transponding its position shortly after it took off,
and maybe the guy was on that plane there's a
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lot of theories out there, and some crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Ones, and some of them that seemed legitimate.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
But the manhunt continues, as the FBI released photos of
the person of interest.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Tonight, more than twenty four hours after conservative activist Charlie
Kirk was killed by a single bullet before a crowd
of thousands of college students. A massive man hunt underway
for the shooter still at large, the FBI releasing these
images asking the public for help. What looks to be
a young man dressed in black and a shirt that
appears to have a flag on it, wearing a ball
cap and sunglasses. Authorities combing through video footage stitching together
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his path from the moment he arrived on campus at
eleven fifty two am.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
We have tracked his movements onto the campus through the
stairwells up to the roof, across the roof to a
shooting location.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
They believe he watched from that perch for some twenty
minutes as Kirk ripped up the crowd.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I can't believe with the amount of death threats that
I've heard that Charlie Kirk received hundreds people sending stuff
to his house. They knew where he lived I can't
believe that there wasn't some kind of Secret Service style
protection on these roofs for this man.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Somebody dropped the ball when it comes to security, and
maybe it was Charlie Kirk himself. Maybe he didn't feel
like it was necessary. Maybe he was offered that kind
of protection and said no, that's possible. But it seems
like in retrospect that there should have been a lot
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more security for this man, a lot more.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And at twelve twenty three three PM, as Kirk was
answering a question about mass shootings, that sniper more than
one hundred yards away fired that single shot.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You don't have any masks here in America over the
last ten years.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Bouncing or not counting day finals great.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
In an instant panic, students ducking for cover, and as
they did, cameras catching a shadowy figure in black on
a rooftop.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We were able to track his movements as he moved
to the other side of the building, jumped off of
the building, and fled off of the campus and into
a neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And prince they believe are from the shooter's palm and forearm.
Investigators searching back yards.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
They're looking, they're looking for.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Someone going house to house, and right in front of us,
you can see members of the FBI's Evidence Response team
combing this neighborhood looking for any clues. Yesterday, this neighborhood
was crawling with SWAT teams looking for the suspect, who
they believe.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Had walked through here.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And in the woods nearby, law enforced said they made
a discovery a high powered rifle wrapped in a towel
and three unspent cartridges inscribed with words and symbols. Today,
authorities working on what those markings might mean. But tonight,
the shooter is still at large and the campus a
crime scene, pictures now telling a tragically familiar story. And
abandoned classroom laptops still open, a backpack left in a chair,
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and this table's piled high, a makeshift attempt to barricade
a door, and among the youngest witnesses the horror of
the shooting.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Who is traumatizing, like traumatizing, like the blood was everywhere, Mike,
I just give them.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, these kids are never going to forget that. These
young kids who had to experience that, you know, Utah
Valley University probably one of the safest places in America,
certainly probably one of the safest places in Utah to
send your kids to. And now the parents have to
think about that and the kids going through that trauma
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and those nightmares, and that campus is closed. They're not
going to open May they said Monday, but it may
not even be Monday. And I don't know what they
do with that, with that quad where this happened. Do
they reconfigure it? Do they leave it there the way
it is? Will people gather there every day in remembering
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Charlie Kirk. Will they'd be a statue that is erected
there to him? Will they again try to reconfigure it
so nobody knows where it happened.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I don't know. There's a lot of questions surrounding this.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Twelve year old Mia granted, eleven year old el Steele
said they stood less than fifteen feet from Kirk when
that shot rang out.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Everybody was ducking, probably wondering if there was going to
be another shot fired. Yeah, so we all I covered
my head down, We all cover our heads and just
some duve down.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well said prayers.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
In our minds.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Do you remember what you prayed for? And how you
praised to be.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Safe and just to have like Charlie had a miracle made,
or like just how must be saved no more other shooters.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Charlie Kirk, just thirty one years old, leaves behind his wife, Erica,
and two young children. Today, his close friend, Vice President JD. Vance,
flying to Utah to escort the family back home to
Phoenix on Air Force two. President Trump has declared the
shooting a dark moment for America and Kirk a martyr,
today announcing he would be awarded the nation's highest civilian honor.
Speaker 8 (06:25):
Charlie is a giant of his generation, a champion of liberty,
and an inspiration to millions and millions of people. I'm
pleased to announce that I will soon be awarding Charlie
Kirk posthumously the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And it helped him track it his movements from the
moment he arrived on campus, entered a building about two
hundred yards behind me, climbed the stairwell, took that perch
on the rooftop, and after taking his shot, scampering across
the roof, somehow jumping off that roof and walking into
a nearby neighborhood in author to say, because he was
a college aged man, he was able to blend in
that crowd, the chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And they have one hundred thousand dollars reward for the
capture of this guy. And I think they'll find him
relatively soon. I think he'll make a mistake and the FBI,
there's a lot of people looking for this guy, a
lot very tough to hide for a long time in
this country, very very tough to do.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
All right, we're live.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Well, we got a lot more coming your way, including
John Colebelt's interview with the priest or pastor that was
with him in Utah when this happened. Also some audio
of Charlie Kirk's remains on Air Force one returning to Phoenix, Arizona.
We'll have that for you as well, and any press
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conference that comes up with more information will have that
for you immediately Here on KFI.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
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Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
If we have more news.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We'll give it to you. More we'll give it to you.
If the press conference happens, we'll give that to you
as well. On Charlie Kirk. Yesterday we had Jay Leno
on he was, He called us and said he wanted
to come on and talk about Charlie Kirk. And he's usually,
you know, a very funny guy and very light, but
he was very serious about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
And a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Gravitated towards that and saw it on a social media
and I think really needed that at that point, to
listen to a guy like Jay Leno, who they've known
their whole lives, tried to make sense out of what
happened to Charlie Kirk. I'm going to play that for
you again, or at least most.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Of it here. It was yesterday on KFI.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Jay Leno was with us.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
You know, to me, it's not just it's not a
random shooting. I mean it suggests free speech to think
that you are so illiterate and so stupid you can't
answer verbally and you have to shoot somebody with a
gun to quote win the argument. You know, when I
was in school, Lively debate was unbelievable to have the
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SDS the students of Democratic Society debate somebody else. I
can remember when James Baldwin debated William F. Buckley at
Oxford University. It was just fascinating to here are two
guys both way smarter than I am, and I understood
both their point of view. It's just fascinating. I mean
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it's just I mean, school shooting. I don't understand those
at all acause those are so stupid. But this is
a political assassination of a man I didn't necessarily agree with,
but I certainly enjoyed listening to because oh I didn't
know that. Okay, and I I have to agree on everything.
I mean, we're in a point in this country where
if you don't agree with everybody and everything, you take
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out a gun and you shoot them, And especially on
a college campus. That's the last time something like this happened.
It got me. It was Kent State.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh yeah, during Vietnamium in.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
The national open fire on students.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But you know, Jay, you have a good point.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You know, watching a good debate is like watching a
boxing match where you know, one guy gets a good
jab and then the other guy does. And watching a
great debate is really entertaining. It should be for both sides.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Yeah, and a lot of times when you watch somebody
like Chairlie Kirk, it might enforce your own beliefs. March
or maybe it might change your mind, but at least
it gets you thinking, at least just thinking about what's
going on, you know. I mean, it's really it's such
an unbelievable right.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Let me ask you something.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You know, because you ran you know, the Tonight Show
for a long period of time. You know, you have
your garage, you got a lot of people working for you.
What happens when the main guy, you know, the main
pillar of a company like that is no longer around,
you think, turning point, he can go one of two ways. Either,
you know, they close up shop and you know and
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uh and everyone goes home, or it can get stronger
over this.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I have a feeling it's gonna be the latter.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think there's gonna be a lot more money coming
into this and a lot more people want to get involved.
And I think a lot of these kids are going
to go out and try to become the next Charlie
Kirk and and and go speak at at thousands of campuses.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Yeah, that's what you know. And again I'm not defending
or knocking anything that he says. It's just he's a
guy that's way more intelligent than me. They could out
debate me, and I could say to them, all right, okay,
you win. I still think you're wrong, right. The idea
that we can't do that anymore. The idea is have
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to take out a gun and shoot the other guy
because you lost a stupid argument. And from what I
understand about this man, he was not a bully. He
was not someone who berated people. I mean, he just
made it a point and it was interesting. You know,
I enjoy listening to the other side because that's how
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that's how I get smarter if somebody agrees with me
all the time, right, you know tonight show, I used
to tell everybody on the show, including the janitors and
the interns, you can pull a cord and stop the
train at anytime. If if you hear something you think it's.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
Stupid or not funny or whatever, give me, give me
a reason why. And did it make for.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
A longer day.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:29):
We had a lot of We had a lot of
really loyal people after that because they felt they were
part of the program.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
You know, we live in a world now where everybody
feels like such an outsider every sin season, and it's
just it's very unsettling. This one really struck me too.
Anytime soon, it's to sassinated. But it's really the death
of free speech, the idea that, oh I don't want
to go to a campus in Utah. I mean, we're
not talking about how the Kegs of Insurrection New York City.
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I mean in the beautiful state of Utah.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, yeah, it's certainly a black eye for Utah.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
You're right, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I'm sure the
person probably wasn't eve in front of Utah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
But yeah, I'm sure he's probably correct.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
You know, I was thinking about this last night when
I was you know, watching all the news stations and
trying to get as much information on it as possible,
And I think this is a real kick in the
teeth for young kids, for kids that are, you know,
fifteen through about twenty five. Charlie Kirk's audience was very,
very young, and they had had their freedom taken away
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from them during COVID. They a lot of them were
locked down for a year and a half, for eighteen months,
especially here in California, eighteen months. A lot of mister
their senior year for football, basketball, baseball, cheerleading, speech and debate,
the you know, the on campus events that you go
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through for your your senior year in high school, first
day back for your senior you know, your homecoming, you know,
the Christmas events, the Christmas show, maybe they you know,
the chorus, you're in the chorus or the band or whatever.
And a lot of kids missed that senior year, and
the other kids had a year and a half sitting
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at home. And if you were an only child, that
was very, very wearing on you, and you tried to
make it as pleasant as you could on your kids,
but you also had to go back to work. So
a lot of those kids were inside the house, and
a lot of them who may not have had you know,
a lot of friends were in the house for a
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year and a half and it probably drove them crazy.
And then they hooked up with this Charlie Kirk and
they saw the videos and they saw there's another way
to think about life, another way to go through life,
not necessarily what the you know, professors in college or
your teachers in high school were telling you every day.
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And this guy was the hero of these young kids,
especially young conservative kids in college, who always felt like
they had to keep their politics quiet. They couldn't wear
a Maga hat or a Trump shirt or a Republican
hat or wear an American flags that offended somebody. When
this guy that came to campus, they all gathered and
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for that one day, they felt like they could say
whatever they wanted to say. And they saw a huge
crowd gather and they're like, wait a minute, I was
going to Utah Valley College and this many people agree
with me. And those kids loved it, you know, whether
it was at Ball State or Washington, Colorado, whatever. When
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Charlie Cook, Charlie Kirk arrived on campus, the conservatives all
gathered and they looked around. They're like, wow, there's more.
I thought I was the only guy. I thought it
was just me and my buddy had to whisper in
the halls that we were conservative, and now there's thousands
and that gave him a lot of confidence and they
and that gave him a real true hero on campus,
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which was Charlie Kirk. And they took that away from them.
They took away their freedom in school for a year
and a half during COVID most states, and then they
came back. They were trying to assimilate and trying to
get back to normal, and they found this guy who
they loved and spoke like them, thought like them. Maybe
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their parents all thought like him as well, and they
got closer to the parents because they were conservative. The
parents were conservative, and they had that in common. They
got closer to their parents. Maybe they went to church
more because Charlie Kirk used to always talk about about
religion and his faith, and then they took that away
from him. And I bet these kids are angry as hell,
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angry as hell having a sit inside for year and
a half, they finally got out. They found somebody thinks
like him, and they took that away from him. And
I have a feeling there are thousands, maybe tens of
thousands or hundreds of thousands of kids who are going
to start their own Charlie's Army or Charlie Kirk Gang
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or whatever in the college, and this thing is going
to explode. It's going to have the exact opposite effect
of what that shooter wanted. I think that this is
going to be even going to be twenty thirty, one
hundred times more popular on campus because of what happened yesterday.
And it's a shame that it happened, but I think
it's going to the movement is going to explode, and
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I think you'll see it on campuses throughout the rest
of the year and in the future. As soon as
that press conference happens, we'll have it here on KFI.
It was supposed to be at five o'clock, but whatever
we're doing, we'll break in and we'll have that for you.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
You're listening to Tim Conway too on demand from KFI.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
AM sixty may or may not have a press conference
with regards to the assassination yesterday of Charlie Kirk, So
if that happens, we'll have it for you immediately. We
heard Jay Leno yesterday and the replayed a little of that.
And the hunt continues. The FBI is on the case
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in huge, huge numbers, with one hundred thousand dollars reward
for the arrest of this man that assassinated Charlie Kirk yesterday.
Let's get some more information on the FBI tonight.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
As the FBI sources for Charlie Kirk's assassin, they're zeroing
in on a high pirate single bolt action rifle that
they believe the suspect left behind, sources telling ABC News
based on the long distance from where the shot was
fired from an elevated position, the shooter likely had considerable
experience with firearms. The gun and consciousness are to be
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flown to the FBI's main LEFE laboratory in Quantico, Virginia
for the most technologically advanced forensic analysis. The bureau can
muster specifically to identify any latent fingerprints or DNA, and
authorities are trying to run down where and when the
gun was purchased, specifically its ownership history, and as for
those photos, Tonight's sources telling ABC News authorities are using
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facial recognition technology to help identify the person of interest.
They're offering a one hundred thousand dollars reward and establishing
additional tip line FBI dot gov slash Utah Valley Shooting
as they continue to piece together evidence which will lead
to the capture, with authorities described as a cold blooded,
calculating killer who remains at large. While they've not yet
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identified the person of interest, my sources are optimistic the
images are clear enough that someone will soon recognize the
man scene in those photos.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
All right, We're going to take a slightly earlier break
here and then come back and play the interview that
John Colbelt did with the pastor or the reverend that
or priest that Charlie Kirk. They convinced Charlie Kirk to
get into religion and combine religion with politics, because before
he talked to this reverend, Charlie Kirk said he would
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never wasn't interested in combining religion, his true deep faith
with politics, and this guy talked him into it. And
so we're going to come back and play an interview.
It's great. You'll want to hear this when we come back.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
A church, a chapel up in Ventura called God Speak.
It's funny because I know somebody that goes there, and
it's odd that they never mentioned Charlie Kirk. But they
got a great leadership up there. Leadership up there. I
think Micah Stephens is still up there. And this is
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Rob mc coy who's the pastor Emeritis. I think this
is another guy named Craig Craig Linquist up there, and
I guess I could look this up James Crawford. But
these guys are with God Speak Cavalry Chapel, and this
is one of the reasons why Charlie Kirk became so
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popular is because Rob McCoy, who you're going to hear
an interview with John Colebelt, convinced him to combine politics
with his religion and he became very successful. So it's
a great story. I'm gonna play it uninterrupted. It's about
seven and seven and a half minutes, and you'll get
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a real feel for what motivated a very young Charlie
Kirk to get more involved in politics and combine his
religion with politics.
Speaker 12 (21:56):
If I am six forty more stimulating talk radio John
Cobelt Show continues Welcome on every day from one until
four o'clock, and we have a special guest to come
on now. Pastor Rob McCoy was Charlie Kirk's spiritual advisor
and he is at the God Speak Cavalry Chapel in
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Newbury Park. That's where he has his church. At the moment,
he's in Arizona with Charlie Kirk's family, the wife and
the children and everyone else. It's a very difficult time
and we really appreciate Pastor Rob McCoy coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Pastor, welcome, how are you, thanks?
Speaker 5 (22:32):
John? Well, all things considered, doing pretty good, talk.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
About your relationship with Charlie Kirk, what he was like.
I know his faith was obviously paramount in his life,
central to everything that he believed in everything he talked about.
Why don't you describe your relationship with him?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Sure, gentlemen, and you're hitting the nail on the head.
His faith was central to all he was about. I
met Charlie back with April twenty nineteen. We were I
had a conference coming off from speaking and he looked
at me. And the only reason why I knew him
is because my son was a big fan and I
wasn't a social media follower. And he said, I didn't
know a guy like you existed. And I said, what's that?
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And he said a pastor in politics, because at the
time I was pastoring, but I was also on the
city council on Thousand Oaks. And I said I didn't
know a guy like you existed. And he said what's that?
And I said a young conservative and we both laughed
and became friends. I said, you know, why don't you
come and speak at our church? He says, I don't
speak in churches. I said, why is that? Charlie said,
because churches don't want me I'm too political, and I said, Charlie,
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politics is the highest form of community. It combines morality, associability.
If God didn't want us to be in politics, he
would have never invented marriage. You need to be in
a church. Since then, I've seen him speak in person,
probably over five hundred times. I'd never seen him nervous
until that morning, that Sunday morning, he was scared to
death and he was one of the best sermons I've
ever heard. And since then he's probably spoken to in
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over a thousand churches across the country. And together we
started what's called Turning Point Faith and that has over
four thousand partner churches. And the idea is, you know
that the misunderstanding that you know here we're coming up
to our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary or birthday of
a nation. It wasn't until maybe fifty years ago that
they took the first sixteen words of the First Amendment
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and they flipped it and they didn't say freedom of religion.
They made freedom from religion. And then secular progressivism comes
in and we got the mess we're in today. Charlie
was a phenom. He took this on at seventeen created
the largest conservative youth movement in the world, let alone America.
I was four days ago. I was with him in Korea,
and that country, under this new president, Lee is is
raiding churches and Charlie stood with them, and one pastor
(24:38):
was arrested and he was getting ready on today's show
to defend him prior to being murdered. Here we all
are in mourning, but we're not in despair. Charlie. Charlie
inspired the entire generation young people. And that coward who
murdered him, he just hit the hornet's nest. These young
kids are there, they're could arise. They just created a mob.
(25:00):
But it's it's a mob of Western civilization preserving and advancing.
And I miss him, but I know where he is.
I have no despair, it's we have hope.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
So and you're with the family now.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Yeah, So, my wife and I heard the news. We
jumped on a plane headed to Salt Lake. We were
with the family last night. As we were departing, they're
coming back with the Vice President getting ready to land.
Shortly we landed ahead of them, and I'm taking a
call with you guys.
Speaker 12 (25:37):
He credited you with combining Christianity with his political beliefs.
As you were talking about a couple of minutes ago.
That that's when he started creating like a combination message,
because Turning Point was primarily a secular message until you
two got together, and then he started creating a mixture
(25:57):
of the two religion and politics.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Charlie was a phenom. He was an autodidac, self taught.
He didn't go to college, but he could run circles
around professors and debate. He was a voracious reader. I
just reminded him of America's history. You know, it used
to be the pulpits in America. You go there for
your basically voter guide. You know the first sixteen words
of the First Amendment, Congress will make no law respecting
(26:21):
the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
No government's going to get in the way of man
worshiping God. And if you think you're supposed to check
your convictions at the door as a citizen before you
can participate in any type of election, that's not what
the founders intended. They believed in a separation of church
and state. They wanted the state out of the church.
But you can't remove the church out of the state,
(26:42):
meaning I am who I am, and I worship who
I worship, and those convictions are going to dictate how
I operate as a citizen. And Charlie saw that connection,
and through Hillsdale College a number of other things. It
reignited because he had been raised in a generation of
churches that you know, pastors say, look, I don't do politics.
Politics is dirty. I just preached the Gospel. And I
(27:03):
told Charlie, I go, that's gnosticism. You somehow, you know,
it's moral pietism, that you're too pure to participate in
the blood sport of politics, even though we're to contend
for our neighbor. And for one of these young ones
to stumble, it'd be better for you'd have a millstone
tied around your neck and cast and devasotion. He's contending
for youth across the country with pulpits. Wouldn't they just
say I'd preached the gospel and they say politics is dirty,
(27:25):
And I go, Charlie. My response to pastors like that is,
so's the church. What's your point? And if they say, look,
we're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils,
only if Jesus is running for office, will you ever
not be voting for the lesser of two evils? We're
supposed to contend for that. And within two days he
had devoured every early sermon from the Eastern Seaboard during
(27:46):
the War of Independence, including Jonathan Mayhew, and he'd read
them all. And he just was running circles around me historically,
and I was blown away, and it just it transformed him.
So from there on out, even with all of his
campus events, he would boldly share about the Lord because
he saw that they were interconnected.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
And was he ever afraid? I mean, he got plenty
of death threats over the years, a lot of harsh criticism,
especially with the way the internet and social media is,
it's quite vile. Did that bother him, restrain him at all?
Scare him at all?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
You know? I was asked for a comment on that,
and I don't recall my exact words, but I did say,
Charlie built the largest conservative youth movement in the world
with nothing more than the power of the spoken word,
with truth and logic. And he was threatened every day.
And he never used violence, He never asked for violence.
He used words, but he was threatened every day by
(28:39):
those who couldn't contend with logic and reason. They threatened
to kill him every day, and he got up every
day not afraid of death because he trusted in his savior.
He knew that his heart was secure in the Lord,
and he didn't fear death. And so he get up
every day and contend for truth. A cowardice murderer. And
that's what evil does. Evil takes life, defended life, and
(29:01):
evil mutilates children. Charlie contended for these in jumaine hormone
blockers that you won't even give the serial rapists in prison,
but you can give them to our fifteen year olds
in California, and they call that healthcare, and they mutilate them.
And he would hear the stories of Chloe Cole at
fifteen with a double masted ectomy, and he'd look and
he'd say, where are the adults in the room. And
for that, these cowards who couldn't contend or even give
(29:22):
the answer to those questions, who are making major money
on the mutilation of our kids, decided to put a
bullet in him. Well, that's what evil does. Evil takes life.
Charlie's not dead like what Billy Graham said, one day
you're going to hear the story of my death or
the reporting of my death. Don't believe it. I'll be
more alive than ever. Charlie's living. He just began to
truly live that day. That shooter he didn't kill him.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
That's great if that speaks to you.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And maybe you're involved in another church that has a
far left leaning liberal sermon every week and you're sort
of tired of sitting through that every week, sitting on
your hands, and you know, watching what you say around
other members of the church, and you want to change
(30:07):
churches and be around people that think like Rob or
Charlie Kirk. That's not a bad move. God Speak Cavalry
Chapel and Thousand Oaks. God Speak Cavalry Chapel, Thousand Oaks.
It's three twenty via Bresis in Newbury Park. Looks like
a beautiful church, and you will be amongst other people
(30:30):
who think like you, and it might be worth the drive.
Might be worth the drive to check it out, and
you know, be a part of the church that was
really respected by Charlie Kirk. So it's God Speak Cavalry Chapel,
God Speak speak, And I think they're going to get
(30:53):
a lot more people up there and donating money to
them and sitting amongst people that believe the same things
they believe. And you can online it's God Speak Cavalry,
God speak dot com. I believe, Uh yeah, god speak
(31:14):
godspeak dot Com. All right, we're live on KFI again.
We're waiting for the press conference. If it happens in
the next hour, we will have that for you live
right here on KFI AM six forty Conway Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app. Now you can always hear
us live on KFI AM six forty four to seven
pm Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the
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