Florida federal judge ordered Jonathan Rinderknecht, the man charged in the deadly Palisades Fire, to remain jailed after prosecutors cited his arsonist tendencies and his family’s concerns over his declining mental state. The judge questioned both his mental health and his reliability to attend future hearings in California. Flood watch was issued in San Bernardino County through Saturday night amid heavy downpours. The LAFD also released after-action reports on the Palisades Fire.
Interim LAFD Chief Ronnie Villaneuva discussed what he would have done differently during the January 7th blaze. Norwalk resident Andrew Garcia, who spent hundreds on tickets for what he believed to be LeBron James’ retirement game, filed a small claims lawsuit against the Lakers star for $865.66, accusing him of fraud and misrepresentation after the “Second Decision” turned out not to be about retirement.
Interim LAFD Chief Ronnie Villaneuva discussed what he would have done differently during the January 7th blaze. Norwalk resident Andrew Garcia, who spent hundreds on tickets for what he believed to be LeBron James’ retirement game, filed a small claims lawsuit against the Lakers star for $865.66, accusing him of fraud and misrepresentation after the “Second Decision” turned out not to be about retirement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KMF I AM six forty and you're listening to
the Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. He said, Hey,
who are they gonna play next? Said Philadelphia? Because they
just played him. He's not into sports, So what can
you do? So if they win today early start, we're
keeping an eye on the score. In Crozer are the
(00:21):
you know, play by play and color guy for the
Dodgers today.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Bottle of the fourth, Jim. That's right, the Dodgers coming
up the bat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
If they do win today, there's going to be a
huge party at Dodger Stadium. It's currently zero zero in
the fourth, Dodgers two to one in games.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We'll see, we'll see, but it's uh, it's tense right
now at Dodgers Stadium. Tense.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So let's get into some news, distract ourselves, and we'll
keep you up on the score.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
The Palisade suspect this Jonathan Ring, Dirk neck Ring Drnck
Now Krozer you might remember this, but yesterday we said
he lives on via a Costa and then we looked
up the prices of the homes on via a Costa.
They go from three to seven million, dollars, and we
all here at the station said an uber driver probably
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doesn't pull in enough money to live in a five
million dollar house. Must be living with family or relatives,
mom and dad somebody right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Turns out that's true. Yeah, so good detective work. Who
is he living with? I think is like a.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Sister or brother, or a sister and a brother in law,
or a brother and a sister in law. He I'm
and angry as hell, angry, angry man. He threatened to
burn his It was his sister. He threatened to burn
his sister's house down in Florida. Yes, yeah, she takes
him in. Yeah, and he threatens to burn her house down.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know, I will say though, buddy of mind, Frankie
Renzuli told me this. He said, every family has the problem.
You know, if you take all of your family problems
and you put him on the curb for the whole
neighborhood to see, and then you walk around the neighborhood
and you see everybody else's problems, you would run home
and embrace your problems and run inside and close the door.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'll take my issues, yes, one hundred percent, because they're Look,
you could have this guy living with you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know, you give him a break in life and
he wants to burn your house down.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Got am mighty, what's going on with this guy? All right,
let's find out what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
With this Palisades suspect and any more information on this
complete a hole. I know they're trying to you know,
Candy cot it in the media. He was, you know,
had a rough childhood. He's misunderstood. He burned down sixty
eight hundred homes and killed twelve people.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's what he did.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
If they're right with this investigation and they got their guy,
he's accused of burning down at least sixty eight hundred
homes and killing twelve people. And how many more businesses
went out of business and how many other homes are
inhabitable because you can't go in because of the smoke damage.
(03:10):
I mean, this is a turned this city upside down.
And the Eating fire did the same thing, but the
Eaton fire it doesn't seem to be a suspect that
did this. But in this case, we've got one a
suspect that caused all this, you know, this destruction.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
During a hearing today, details came out involving the suspect's
recent interaction with police, and also accusations that he threatened
his family. A federal magistrate judge denied bail amid concerns
that he's a flight risk. He will be held in
custody awaiting trial. Twenty nine year old former Pacific Palisades
resident Jonathan RINDERNECKT is accused of starting a fire early
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New Year's Day that eventually became the deadly and destructive
Palisades Fire. He was arrested in Florida, where he most
recently lived. During a hearing, an ATF special agent testified
that Neck moved into the Florida home of his sister
and her husband five months ago. The agent said law
enforcement was called to that house twice in September, once
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because he allegedly threatened to burn the home down.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Your sister opens her door, allows you to come and
live with her, because you have burned every bridge in
your life. And now yeah, and now you want to
burn her home down. God almighty, I'm not done. And
then they'll say, well, he's got mental illness, no s
no kidding.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And again when his dad, who was visiting, called authorities
to report that rinder Neck had a gun and made
comments he would shoot his brother in law in self defense.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, so that strike two. The brother in law could
say death threat. The sister has her house threatened that
he's going to burn that down. Man, you got to
keep an eye on this guy at night. You know,
you got to sleep with one eye open with this
lad around and make sure the smoke detectors are working.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
A federal assistant public defender said render Neckt was not
a flight risk and that his family supporting him during
the criminal proceedings.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Get out of here. Is his family supporting this guy
for the night start he started the fire.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He left as soon as he saw the fire trucks
were headed to the location. He turned around and went
back up there, and he took some video and watched
them fight the fire. Will prove you on a reasonable
doubt that he intentionally started this fire.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And maliciously.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I wish we could get into somebody's head, but we can't.
People do evil things.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
This is the head of the ATF and talking about
this suspect and maliciously.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I wish we could get into somebody's head, but we can't.
People do evil things for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Meanwhile, the LA Fire Department released an after action review.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Repeat, he's right, the head of the ATF, he's right.
There are two people in this world. People that help
society move forward. You know, you work, you pay your bills,
you raise kids, you stay out of trouble. You don't
burn homes down, you don't burn neighborhoods down, you don't
kill people, you don't rate people, you don't destroy property.
And then there's the people that move society backwards. And
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that's what this cat falls under. People who try to
take society backwards. So either moving forward or yeah your yeah, mooch.
And this guy was not contributing at all. It detailed
us and you know what, he's only looking at twenty
years in prison max maximum for this.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean that's that's like one hundred dollars. What is that?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's like a hundred It's like ten days per home
that he burned down.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It detailed a series of challenges, including that the city
was short on necessary resources. Lamy Or Karen Bass demoted
the la fire chief in February. Today, she responded to
the report.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
The fire department in general needs more, but we also
know that resources could have been more effectively used that
were there.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Such Okay, now, she's blaming former Chief Crowley. You can
hear it in her sort of, you know, passive aggressive way.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
But we also know that resources could have been more
effective of leuse that we're there, such as deploying fire
engines and firefighters, you know, to the area.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, so I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's it's if he gets twenty years, that's seventy three
hundred days. That's about a day and a half per
home that was destroyed. So you destroy, you destroy somebody's home,
and that's you get a day and a half in
prison for that, and then zero time for the twelve
people that were murdered as well. And if you start
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a fire like that, that's what it is, you know,
either manslaughter or murdered.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But nobody's talking about that.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
And so the leadership is key, and you know that
we are winding up our search and process, and so
a permanent SHEAF will be appointed soon.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Governor Gavin Newsom says the state commissioned its own independent report.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know, I really feel like we have a huge
share of really aggressive people here in southern California. And
I think I know why, because people out here either
you have a lot of money, or you have none.
There's very few people who are middle class in California.
Either you've got an s load or you've got nothing.
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And the people who have nothing see the expensive cars,
the jewelry, the homes, the pools, and they want that,
and they're pissed that they don't have it. They're pissed
that they go year after year after year without any
part of that, and they get angry as hell.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And I think that contributes to it, I really do.
All right, we'll keep an.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Eye on the Dodgers zero zero, top of the fifth.
If the Dodgers win tonight, they go on to the
National League Championship Series. If they lose, they go to
Philadelphia for Game five. So a very important game at
the stadium right now. And both pitchers are pitching one hitters.
Philadelphia has one hit and their and Dodgers have one
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hit in the top of the fifth.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I believe, yes, yes, top of.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
The you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I know it's a little warm for being a fall,
but we're supposed to have some decent weather, some flash
flooding out near the desert. So if you're out in
that area, you know, be careful because it does creep
up on you. And next week we're expecting rain Tuesday
and Wednesday. Sixty five percent chance on Tuesday and fifty
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percent on Wednesday. The high in the San Fernando Valley
next Wednesday is sixty four degrees, the high sixty four,
the low is fifty three. And then on Thursday, the
San Fernando Valley low is forty nine degrees. Forty nine degrees,
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that is seventeen degrees above freezing, freezing in southern California.
So break out when you go home tonight, break out
the jackets, maybe an umbrella or two, and get ready
because we're in for I think a lot of cold,
rainy weather this winter, at least I hope, but that's
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going to be a big deal next week. That'll be
a big topic, you know, the first rain, the first
cold weather, and that rain's going to come in on
let's see what day, Tuesday. On Tuesday, it's going to
start right around three pm. So far, preliminary projection is
three pm on Tuesday. Next Tuesday, October fourteenth, at three pm,
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and then all throughout the night ending Wednesday morning, So
late afternoon Tuesday into Wednesday morning, we're looking at rain and.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
There's a flood watch in place for San Bernardino right
now tonight through Saturday.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I was looking at the radar there and last
time there was a flood watch we had that I
think it was Highway thirty eight up in the mountains
blowout and and a lot of houses were destroyed. So
when they say flash flowed, and when they do the
emergency broadcast on your TV, I know it interrupts your program,
but it does save lives, and we do it here
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as well, and it does you know, we do bop
into the program and run the what's it called eas
and we run those because they do save lives.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They do save lives. All right, what would the.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Chief Chief Crowley, what would she have done differently? Or
what were the new chief done differently in the Palisades fire?
What are the new ideas? What do we do wrong?
What should we do in the future. Let's find out.
It's a big deal for people that live out there
and also the people live in the Eaton Fire area.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Daily Fire Department has released it's after action review report
and NBC four's Brittany Hope has been coming through this
seventy page document. Now, Brittany, I know there's a lot there,
but would you say there are any big surprises.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
Yeah. Well, we've been reporting, you know, on issues with
the Palisades fire, like the lack of and not enough
firefighters and resources since Shane Wary.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We've known that that's about it. That's a wrap, right,
not enough firefighters, not enough water. What else could that
report have come up with?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Those are the two things you need to put fires out,
water and people, and there wasn't enough of either.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
But this report gives us more insight into how those
lapses happened and what the city is doing now to
make sure they're.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It makes me so crazy that Pacific Palisades has uh
is this a life.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Chase we're watching on four? No, it's an early one.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
There's Pacific Palisades is one of the wealthiest communities, one
of the nicest communities I've ever seen in my life,
and for them not to have great firefighting service with
all the taxes they pay, you know, because you pay
about a percent of one percent maybe one point two
five percent in some areas in property tax, and so
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if you have a five million dollar house, and that's
not unusual for Pacific palisades. You know, five million bucks
for a house, and then you multiply that point point
zero one two five, they're paying about sixty two thousand,
five hundred dollars a year in property tax. Sixty two
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thousand dollars a year if you have a five million
dollar home. That's what you're not your your mortgage, your
your insurance, your power bill, you know, your water bill,
none of that, not you know, landscaping, those are all separate.
You're just your property tax is about sixty two thousand
dollars a year. And and you find out that you're
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cutting a check for sixty two thousand dollars a year.
And they come back and they say, oh, well we
don't have enough firefighters and we didn't have any water. Well,
then what the f are they paying for? What are
they paying for? You know, they they always say, oh,
you can't fix the sidewalks. It's a fifty year wait
to have your sidewalks repaired. We don't have any water
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to fight the fire. We don't have any firefighters. We
don't have enough firefighters. Then what are they paying the
sixty two thousand dollars for why don't they all just
keep the sixty two thousand, hire their own fire department
and the problem would be over. But I can't imagine
how pissed people are in the Palisades area when reports
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like this come out that there weren't enough firefighters, there
wasn't enough water, and that's why they're dream homes and
sometimes family homes, maybe for a generation or two or
three are lost forever because the city of Los Angeles
let them down.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I would be pissed every single day. I don't know why.
I don't see enough more anger out there.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Maybe they're just good at controlling it, you know, maybe
rich people are better at controlling it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But man, oh man, I'd be super super pissed.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
And what the city is doing now to make sure
they're more prepared for the next emergency. So last night
NBC four is Robert Kavasik talked exclusively with the new
interim fire chief about what he would have done differently
if he was in charge on January seventh.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Okay, let's pause it there. What would he do differently
if he was in charge? We'll come back and play
that for you and maybe avoid this in the future, maybe,
just maybe all right, A quick Dodger update zero zero
in the bottom of the fifth inning, Dodgers zero, Phillies zero,
and the Phillies have one hit. Dodgers have two hits,
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only three hits all day until the fifth inning. Game's
halfway over and there's only three hits. A pitcher's duel.
I call it. I'm telling you. We'll come back and
listen to this report. What would be done differently today
that wasn't done January when those fires hit the Palisades area.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on Demayo from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
All right, Robert Kavasik over at NBC News, talk to
the current chief. I guess he's the interim chief about
what he would have done diff differently if he was
chief of the fire department in January when they had
that horrible fire out in Pacific Palisades in Malibu. What
would he have done differently? Let's find out if there
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was any big moves.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
So last night NBC four as Robert Kvasik talked exclusively
with the new interim fire chief about what he would
have done differently if he was in charge on January seventh.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
If I was the fire chief on that day.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I would have kept everyone on duty that day. I
wouldn't have let anybody go home.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Other weaknesses. Fire crews were dealing with unprecedented fire conditions
Hurricane force winds meant that aircraft should have been dropping
water and fire retardant actually couldn't fly. Also, there was
really bad sell in internet service, so getting people evacuated
was delayed, and a lot of the roots to the
fire were blocked. You know, we saw that unfold on
Sunset Boulevard.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know, they don't say in this report why the
airplanes and the helicopters couldn't fly right here.
Speaker 10 (16:56):
Should have been dropping water and fire retardant actually couldn't fly.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Okay, she didn't say they couldn't fly because of wind conditions.
If you remember, President Biden was in town, and that
was one of the reasons why we weren't getting any
coverage from the news. Helicopters and we you know, there
may have been some helicopters or planes that were grounded
as well. So that's also something to keep in mind.
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If the presidents in town and we need emergency equipment
up there, they should be exempt from that thirty mile law.
Or thirty mile rule that you can't fly within thirty
miles of the president. Also, there was that should be
another change in future firefighting in La.
Speaker 10 (17:37):
Also, there was really bad sell and internet service, so
getting people evacuated was delayed and a lot of the
roots to the fire were blocked. You know, we saw
that unfold on Sunset Boulevard where people were literally trapped
in their cars and had to run from the flames.
Another problem water some areas didn't have access to hydrants lot.
Speaker 9 (17:55):
So, Brittany, it's been more than nine months now since
the fire. What actual changes has the department made?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Great question? Great question? What has the department done?
Speaker 10 (18:05):
So, first we have a new interim fire chief who
you just heard from. And second there is a ton
of new protocols. For example, all staff have to work
when there was a red flag warning. LEDWP every week
now has to give weekly updates about hydrant and water
reserve status and if a fire causes network to go down.
The department now has starlink, so that internet and cell
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service notworking shouldn't matter. They should be able to tell
people to evacuate a lot earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, these all seem to be common sense.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Again, I go back to the amount of money that
wealthy people pay in property tax and then to say, well,
the firefighters, you know wet. We should have kept everybody on,
We should have had a water report, and we should
have had perhaps some a couple of aircraft up there
fighting this fire.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Maybe it made a difference, who knows, but it seems
like this report is filled with the basics, and nobody
except Kristin Crawley, the one person in the LA Fire
Department that said we need better equipment, we need you know,
more mechanics, we need water to fight these fires.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
She was the only one that got.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Fired the essentially the whistleblower, and said we need a
lot more, and they You know, another thing that drives
me crazy. The budget for homelessness in Los Angeles is
two or three times what the budget is for the
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LA Fire Department. So when you pay your property tax,
and you know you live in a nice area like
Pacific Palisades, you're going to pay a lot more for
homelessness than you do for firefighting, and that could have
made a huge difference. And to lose a family home
that you've had for two or three generations is absolutely
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devastating physically, mentally, you know, psychologically. I don't know if
you ever get over that. If you have a house
where you raise your kids and then their kids raise
their kids, maybe in the same house, and that's possible.
Those homes, some of those homes have been around for
you know, seventy eighty years, and now they're gone and
you have to rebuild, and that's a long process. And
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if you do rebuild quickly, you're going to be in
a construction zone for the next four years. Every single
day you leave your driveway, there's dump trucks, heavy equipment
coming by your house and doesn't seem like a like
a five million dollar house. When construction companies are coming by,
you're hearing the hammers at six o'clock, seven o'clock in
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the morning. It's dusty, it's dirty for the next three
or four years because of the rebuilding, and it's it
really is devastating. That area may never return to what
it used to be. And I don't know, I don't
know where. Maybe there is a lot of anger in
the Pacific Palisades area. I haven't been out there in
a while. Maybe there are a lot of people out
there that are really still pissed. But I just I
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don't see the level of anger there should be there.
There should be outrage over this. To spend more money
on homelessness in LA than the fire Department is crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's absolutely crazy. All right. When we come back, we
got a pretty.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Interesting guest, a guy named Andrew Garcia, and he's suing
Lebron James for deception and he might have a case.
Here we come back, we'll talk to him. It's a
pretty interesting story and he might actually get a payday.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Here. You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
If we're gonna get to our guest here in a second,
but first, we have rain that just went through Norco
and Corona and now it's pressed on. You are going
to have this rain and it's going to parallel the
fifteen Freeway.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
This storm.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I've never seen a storm like this. This cell looks
like it gets on the fifteen Freeway right near Victorville
and just stays on the freeway with you all the
way to Barstow. So, if you're traveling to Vegas going up,
I don't know, maybe to Utah, wherever the hell you're going,
this storm is going to travel with you right on
the fifteen. It literally covers the east side of the
(22:24):
fifteen all the way up to Barstow, and so expect rain. Barstow,
You're going to be getting a lot of rain at
about six fifteen. Otherwise there's a lot of rain out
in the Palm Springs area and east of Palm Springs.
If you're going to Phoenix, they're getting a ton of
rain out there. So in the desert, a lot of
rain in the desert, and just you'll deal with that,
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all right. Andrew Garcia is with us. He is a
gentleman who is suing Lebron James for deception.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Hey, Andrew, you're on KFI? How you Bob?
Speaker 11 (22:59):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You're else I'm doing great.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So what are you suing him for the fact that
they didn't win the championship last year?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No?
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Unfortunately, no, I might have to think about that one.
But no, for a fraud, deception and misrepresentation to be specific.
That's in the filing.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wow, okay, And does it have anything to do with
his announcement the other morning.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
That's exactly what it has to do with, correct, Yeah,
for what we were deceived and what we me and
along with many other fans, thought was going to happen
that ultimately didn't happen. Unfortunately, Well I don't know what if.
Fortune or unfortunately would be the right word, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, so what do you what are the damages? I mean,
it didn't cost you anything, did it.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
Yeah, so I'm only I think I was very reasonable
and the filing. I only requested the actual cost that
I paid, which, to be specific, is I actually had
the filing right here, something along the lines of like
eight hundred and sixty five dollars and sixty six cents.
I'm not requesting any sort of additional relief or anything unreasonable,
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just solely what I paid.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right, And what did you pay for tickets to get
in or hotel and food? What does that eight to
sixty five come from?
Speaker 11 (24:11):
No, no, don't. I don't have to pay a hotel
or anything. Thankfully, I am an La County residence. I'm
not too far from the stadium. However, Yeah, it was
just solely for tickets.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh wait, so I didn't know this. I was unaware
they sold tickets to this event.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
Yeah, yeah, it was late No, no, no, it was
for Laker game tickets.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't understand the lawsuit here. You got to walk
me through this, so okay.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you didn't. I'm sorry, I
did apologize. So basically, a lot of fans, including myself, assumed,
of course, you know, it is based on an assumption.
I'm not going to lie that he was going to
announce his retirement on social media because of something he
posted basically implying that, and there was reason to believe that,
as I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Who thought that.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
So basically that cause ticket prices for Lakers tickets throughout
the season. Oh wait yeah, exactly because if it's his
farewell tour, like what happened with Kobe Ryant, you know
some years back. That's so.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I see, okay, So where did did you buy tickets
for the final game?
Speaker 11 (25:13):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
What is that? What the issue is?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
No?
Speaker 11 (25:16):
So I actually so the final game would have been
April twelfth against.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The Utah Jazz in twenty twenty six, exactly, Okay.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
I purchased March thirty first, or twelve days before against
the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Oh I see, So you thought that this whole year
was going to be his final tour, his final year
and those tickets were more expensive than if he was
just playing another regular year exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay, right on the money yet, all right, I mean
you know you, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm not a lawyer, Bellio, I always refer to Bellio
went through legal law school and then got her degree
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Bellio. Are you at the Lebron James being sued desk?
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Yes, I'm at the Lebron James legal potentially being sued.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
What is your opinion there at that at the Lebron
James desk?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, I see his point.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
He bought thinking that Lebron was going to retire, and
he buys tickets to the Cavs so this would be
the last time he sees Lebron play the Cleveland Cavaliers, Okay,
and so he buys his tickets and then to find
out it wasn't anything about retirement.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Okay, it was a ruse. All right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Back to the Lebron desk with you, all right, So
I think you might have a case, and I'll tell
you why. You remember when Tom Brady retired and the
guy had Tom Brady's football from the final pass, the
final touchdown pass that he threw, and the and he
auctioned that off for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
And then when Tom Brady unretired, that ball was worth
(26:44):
forty two dollars and fifty eight cents, and so he
wanted his money back, and he got his money back.
He got this seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars back
because that wasn't you know, it was sold as his
last pass, last touchdown pass. It turns out not to
be true. I think you might have a case there.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
Well, you know, thank you for that information. I actually
did not know that. What you said right that I
didn't know that. Yeah, maybe I'll bring that up is
evidence at my hearing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I think you should and I and if and if
you want someone to sit next to you, I got
you know, I can supply a lot of verbal ding dongs.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know, while the case is going on.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
It is open to the public. Man, I can't stop you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So what so if he doesn't show up, he owes
you that money.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
Well, obviously there's a lot of to be seen here, right,
I've actually believe it or not. It may be hard
to believe, but his representation has already reached out to me.
Really a lawyer yeah, exactly a lot of I've actually
spoken to multiple media outlets already and they respond the
same way. Yeah. So his representation, which was hired by
his management agency, reached out to me and basically, you know,
(27:53):
to inquire basically what the case was about. Right, And
I'm currently just kind of waiting to hear back from
them again. I've respoken with them with the once, but
they said they were going to review the case and
you know, we'll see the guys from there.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Andrew, do people call you Andy or is it Andrew?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
No?
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Just Andrew. I don't do Andy man.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
Oh god, Okay, he doesn't do Andy man. I get it,
I get it. I get I know a lot of
people that don't do Andy's. But if if that, what
were the what was the face value on those tickets
when you bought them?
Speaker 11 (28:23):
Well, I purchased them for eight hundred and sixty five
dollars and sixty six cents. What's the question? Exactly what
the fa.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Okay, because I think you could probably get the difference
between the face value and your eight hundred and sixty
five dollars because you can still go to the game
and use those tickets. But you're right, you shouldn't pay
outrageous prices because the price did go up thinking that
he was going to retire.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
No, that's that's a good point. And Anniel, maybe when
his representation calls me back, maybe that'll be their offer.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't know, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But this is also weird though, because if he turns
around and gives you that money, there's going to be
a line all the way to San Diego of people
in the same boat, you.
Speaker 11 (29:05):
Know exactly, And oh, yeah, you got a good point.
And I was thinking the same thing as well. That's
why I'm very curious to see how this plays out.
It's kind of unique. But yeah, based on what he
does kind of will determine that ripple effects for others.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I agree, you know what, and it might get people
to stop doing this crap too. So I'm on your
side because you know, I don't know how long you listen.
Maybe you don't know this show and maybe don't listen
to k if. I understand that. But I was a big,
huge and Bellio can confirm this. I'm the biggest Share
fan in the world. I love Share and her music.
I go all the way back to Sonny and Share,
and you know, I followed the family and all her
(29:38):
marriages and everything, and I bought tickets to her final tour,
and I was I was tickled, pink, man, I love
that you know, that Share and my favorite song of
shares is probably wait hold on sec half breed. That's
all I ever heard it, half breed.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's all I have heard.
Speaker 11 (30:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I was dancing my hands off.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So I go to that Share concert, her final tour
and then guess what, Andrew two year, an year and
a half later, she's on tour again.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Wow, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 11 (30:18):
You need to take her a small claim?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's right?
Speaker 11 (30:20):
That's your limitations might have to not be expired. Though,
how many years ago?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Was that about? About twelve years ago? Actually?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Oh yeah, well, good luck with that one.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
All right, So you you you got to keep us.
We're gonna check in with you every once in a
while and see what the outcome is.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, that's not a problem, all right, all right, thanks
for calling six forty on your Side?
Speaker 11 (30:42):
Yeah problem, all right?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Thanks man. All right, there we go.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's a new segment we do six forty on your Side.
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Speaker 6 (31:01):
So.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, we're live Dodgers zero, Phillies zero, and they
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We'll keep you updated, and don't forget. You got a storm.
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you know, play by play and color guy for the
Dodgers today.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Bottle of the fourth, Jim. That's right, the Dodgers coming
up the bat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
If they do win today, there's going to be a
huge party at Dodger Stadium. It's currently zero zero in
the fourth, Dodgers two to one in games.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We'll see, we'll see, but it's uh, it's tense right
now at Dodgers Stadium. Tense.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So let's get into some news, distract ourselves, and we'll
keep you up on the score.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
The Palisade suspect this Jonathan Ring, Dirk neck Ring Drnck
Now Krozer you might remember this, but yesterday we said
he lives on via a Costa and then we looked
up the prices of the homes on via a Costa.
They go from three to seven million, dollars, and we
all here at the station said an uber driver probably
(01:18):
doesn't pull in enough money to live in a five
million dollar house. Must be living with family or relatives,
mom and dad somebody right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Turns out that's true. Yeah, so good detective work. Who
is he living with? I think is like a.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Sister or brother, or a sister and a brother in law,
or a brother and a sister in law. He I'm
and angry as hell, angry, angry man. He threatened to
burn his It was his sister. He threatened to burn
his sister's house down in Florida. Yes, yeah, she takes
him in. Yeah, and he threatens to burn her house down.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know, I will say though, buddy of mind, Frankie
Renzuli told me this. He said, every family has the problem.
You know, if you take all of your family problems
and you put him on the curb for the whole
neighborhood to see, and then you walk around the neighborhood
and you see everybody else's problems, you would run home
and embrace your problems and run inside and close the door.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'll take my issues, yes, one hundred percent, because they're Look,
you could have this guy living with you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know, you give him a break in life and
he wants to burn your house down.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Got am mighty, what's going on with this guy? All right,
let's find out what's going on.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
With this Palisades suspect and any more information on this
complete a hole. I know they're trying to you know,
Candy cot it in the media. He was, you know,
had a rough childhood. He's misunderstood. He burned down sixty
eight hundred homes and killed twelve people.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's what he did.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
If they're right with this investigation and they got their guy,
he's accused of burning down at least sixty eight hundred
homes and killing twelve people. And how many more businesses
went out of business and how many other homes are
inhabitable because you can't go in because of the smoke damage.
(03:10):
I mean, this is a turned this city upside down.
And the Eating fire did the same thing, but the
Eaton fire it doesn't seem to be a suspect that
did this. But in this case, we've got one a
suspect that caused all this, you know, this destruction.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
During a hearing today, details came out involving the suspect's
recent interaction with police, and also accusations that he threatened
his family. A federal magistrate judge denied bail amid concerns
that he's a flight risk. He will be held in
custody awaiting trial. Twenty nine year old former Pacific Palisades
resident Jonathan RINDERNECKT is accused of starting a fire early
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New Year's Day that eventually became the deadly and destructive
Palisades Fire. He was arrested in Florida, where he most
recently lived. During a hearing, an ATF special agent testified
that Neck moved into the Florida home of his sister
and her husband five months ago. The agent said law
enforcement was called to that house twice in September, once
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because he allegedly threatened to burn the home down.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Your sister opens her door, allows you to come and
live with her, because you have burned every bridge in
your life. And now yeah, and now you want to
burn her home down. God almighty, I'm not done. And
then they'll say, well, he's got mental illness, no s
no kidding.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And again when his dad, who was visiting, called authorities
to report that rinder Neck had a gun and made
comments he would shoot his brother in law in self defense.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Okay, so that strike two. The brother in law could
say death threat. The sister has her house threatened that
he's going to burn that down. Man, you got to
keep an eye on this guy at night. You know,
you got to sleep with one eye open with this
lad around and make sure the smoke detectors are working.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
A federal assistant public defender said render Neckt was not
a flight risk and that his family supporting him during
the criminal proceedings.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Get out of here. Is his family supporting this guy
for the night start he started the fire.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He left as soon as he saw the fire trucks
were headed to the location. He turned around and went
back up there, and he took some video and watched
them fight the fire. Will prove you on a reasonable
doubt that he intentionally started this fire.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And maliciously.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I wish we could get into somebody's head, but we can't.
People do evil things.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
This is the head of the ATF and talking about
this suspect and maliciously.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I wish we could get into somebody's head, but we can't.
People do evil things for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Meanwhile, the LA Fire Department released an after action review.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Repeat, he's right, the head of the ATF, he's right.
There are two people in this world. People that help
society move forward. You know, you work, you pay your bills,
you raise kids, you stay out of trouble. You don't
burn homes down, you don't burn neighborhoods down, you don't
kill people, you don't rate people, you don't destroy property.
And then there's the people that move society backwards. And
(06:03):
that's what this cat falls under. People who try to
take society backwards. So either moving forward or yeah your yeah, mooch.
And this guy was not contributing at all. It detailed
us and you know what, he's only looking at twenty
years in prison max maximum for this.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean that's that's like one hundred dollars. What is that?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's like a hundred It's like ten days per home
that he burned down.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It detailed a series of challenges, including that the city
was short on necessary resources. Lamy Or Karen Bass demoted
the la fire chief in February. Today, she responded to
the report.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
The fire department in general needs more, but we also
know that resources could have been more effectively used that
were there.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Such Okay, now, she's blaming former Chief Crowley. You can
hear it in her sort of, you know, passive aggressive way.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
But we also know that resources could have been more
effective of leuse that we're there, such as deploying fire
engines and firefighters, you know, to the area.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, so I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It's it's if he gets twenty years, that's seventy three
hundred days. That's about a day and a half per
home that was destroyed. So you destroy, you destroy somebody's home,
and that's you get a day and a half in
prison for that, and then zero time for the twelve
people that were murdered as well. And if you start
(07:31):
a fire like that, that's what it is, you know,
either manslaughter or murdered.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But nobody's talking about that.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
And so the leadership is key, and you know that
we are winding up our search and process, and so
a permanent SHEAF will be appointed soon.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Governor Gavin Newsom says the state commissioned its own independent report.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know, I really feel like we have a huge
share of really aggressive people here in southern California. And
I think I know why, because people out here either
you have a lot of money, or you have none.
There's very few people who are middle class in California.
Either you've got an s load or you've got nothing.
(08:12):
And the people who have nothing see the expensive cars,
the jewelry, the homes, the pools, and they want that,
and they're pissed that they don't have it. They're pissed
that they go year after year after year without any
part of that, and they get angry as hell.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And I think that contributes to it, I really do.
All right, we'll keep an.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Eye on the Dodgers zero zero, top of the fifth.
If the Dodgers win tonight, they go on to the
National League Championship Series. If they lose, they go to
Philadelphia for Game five. So a very important game at
the stadium right now. And both pitchers are pitching one hitters.
Philadelphia has one hit and their and Dodgers have one
(08:52):
hit in the top of the fifth.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I believe, yes, yes, top of.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
The you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I know it's a little warm for being a fall,
but we're supposed to have some decent weather, some flash
flooding out near the desert. So if you're out in
that area, you know, be careful because it does creep
up on you. And next week we're expecting rain Tuesday
and Wednesday. Sixty five percent chance on Tuesday and fifty
(09:23):
percent on Wednesday. The high in the San Fernando Valley
next Wednesday is sixty four degrees, the high sixty four,
the low is fifty three. And then on Thursday, the
San Fernando Valley low is forty nine degrees. Forty nine degrees,
(09:43):
that is seventeen degrees above freezing, freezing in southern California.
So break out when you go home tonight, break out
the jackets, maybe an umbrella or two, and get ready
because we're in for I think a lot of cold,
rainy weather this winter, at least I hope, but that's
(10:07):
going to be a big deal next week. That'll be
a big topic, you know, the first rain, the first
cold weather, and that rain's going to come in on
let's see what day, Tuesday. On Tuesday, it's going to
start right around three pm. So far, preliminary projection is
three pm on Tuesday. Next Tuesday, October fourteenth, at three pm,
(10:32):
and then all throughout the night ending Wednesday morning, So
late afternoon Tuesday into Wednesday morning, we're looking at rain and.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
There's a flood watch in place for San Bernardino right
now tonight through Saturday.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I was looking at the radar there and last
time there was a flood watch we had that I
think it was Highway thirty eight up in the mountains
blowout and and a lot of houses were destroyed. So
when they say flash flowed, and when they do the
emergency broadcast on your TV, I know it interrupts your program,
but it does save lives, and we do it here
(11:09):
as well, and it does you know, we do bop
into the program and run the what's it called eas
and we run those because they do save lives.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They do save lives. All right, what would the.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Chief Chief Crowley, what would she have done differently? Or
what were the new chief done differently in the Palisades fire?
What are the new ideas? What do we do wrong?
What should we do in the future. Let's find out.
It's a big deal for people that live out there
and also the people live in the Eaton Fire area.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Daily Fire Department has released it's after action review report
and NBC four's Brittany Hope has been coming through this
seventy page document. Now, Brittany, I know there's a lot there,
but would you say there are any big surprises.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
Yeah. Well, we've been reporting, you know, on issues with
the Palisades fire, like the lack of and not enough
firefighters and resources since Shane Wary.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We've known that that's about it. That's a wrap, right,
not enough firefighters, not enough water. What else could that
report have come up with?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Those are the two things you need to put fires out,
water and people, and there wasn't enough of either.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
But this report gives us more insight into how those
lapses happened and what the city is doing now to
make sure they're.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It makes me so crazy that Pacific Palisades has uh
is this a life.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Chase we're watching on four? No, it's an early one.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
There's Pacific Palisades is one of the wealthiest communities, one
of the nicest communities I've ever seen in my life,
and for them not to have great firefighting service with
all the taxes they pay, you know, because you pay
about a percent of one percent maybe one point two
five percent in some areas in property tax, and so
(13:00):
if you have a five million dollar house, and that's
not unusual for Pacific palisades. You know, five million bucks
for a house, and then you multiply that point point
zero one two five, they're paying about sixty two thousand,
five hundred dollars a year in property tax. Sixty two
(13:20):
thousand dollars a year if you have a five million
dollar home. That's what you're not your your mortgage, your
your insurance, your power bill, you know, your water bill,
none of that, not you know, landscaping, those are all separate.
You're just your property tax is about sixty two thousand
dollars a year. And and you find out that you're
(13:46):
cutting a check for sixty two thousand dollars a year.
And they come back and they say, oh, well we
don't have enough firefighters and we didn't have any water. Well,
then what the f are they paying for? What are
they paying for? You know, they they always say, oh,
you can't fix the sidewalks. It's a fifty year wait
to have your sidewalks repaired. We don't have any water
(14:06):
to fight the fire. We don't have any firefighters. We
don't have enough firefighters. Then what are they paying the
sixty two thousand dollars for why don't they all just
keep the sixty two thousand, hire their own fire department
and the problem would be over. But I can't imagine
how pissed people are in the Palisades area when reports
(14:26):
like this come out that there weren't enough firefighters, there
wasn't enough water, and that's why they're dream homes and
sometimes family homes, maybe for a generation or two or
three are lost forever because the city of Los Angeles
let them down.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I would be pissed every single day. I don't know why.
I don't see enough more anger out there.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Maybe they're just good at controlling it, you know, maybe
rich people are better at controlling it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But man, oh man, I'd be super super pissed.
Speaker 10 (14:56):
And what the city is doing now to make sure
they're more prepared for the next emergency. So last night
NBC four is Robert Kavasik talked exclusively with the new
interim fire chief about what he would have done differently
if he was in charge on January seventh.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Okay, let's pause it there. What would he do differently
if he was in charge? We'll come back and play
that for you and maybe avoid this in the future, maybe,
just maybe all right, A quick Dodger update zero zero
in the bottom of the fifth inning, Dodgers zero, Phillies zero,
and the Phillies have one hit. Dodgers have two hits,
(15:30):
only three hits all day until the fifth inning. Game's
halfway over and there's only three hits. A pitcher's duel.
I call it. I'm telling you. We'll come back and
listen to this report. What would be done differently today
that wasn't done January when those fires hit the Palisades area.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on Demayo from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
All right, Robert Kavasik over at NBC News, talk to
the current chief. I guess he's the interim chief about
what he would have done diff differently if he was
chief of the fire department in January when they had
that horrible fire out in Pacific Palisades in Malibu. What
would he have done differently? Let's find out if there
(16:13):
was any big moves.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
So last night NBC four as Robert Kvasik talked exclusively
with the new interim fire chief about what he would
have done differently if he was in charge on January seventh.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
If I was the fire chief on that day.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I would have kept everyone on duty that day. I
wouldn't have let anybody go home.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Other weaknesses. Fire crews were dealing with unprecedented fire conditions
Hurricane force winds meant that aircraft should have been dropping
water and fire retardant actually couldn't fly. Also, there was
really bad sell in internet service, so getting people evacuated
was delayed, and a lot of the roots to the
fire were blocked. You know, we saw that unfold on
Sunset Boulevard.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know, they don't say in this report why the
airplanes and the helicopters couldn't fly right here.
Speaker 10 (16:56):
Should have been dropping water and fire retardant actually couldn't fly.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Okay, she didn't say they couldn't fly because of wind conditions.
If you remember, President Biden was in town, and that
was one of the reasons why we weren't getting any
coverage from the news. Helicopters and we you know, there
may have been some helicopters or planes that were grounded
as well. So that's also something to keep in mind.
(17:22):
If the presidents in town and we need emergency equipment
up there, they should be exempt from that thirty mile law.
Or thirty mile rule that you can't fly within thirty
miles of the president. Also, there was that should be
another change in future firefighting in La.
Speaker 10 (17:37):
Also, there was really bad sell and internet service, so
getting people evacuated was delayed and a lot of the
roots to the fire were blocked. You know, we saw
that unfold on Sunset Boulevard where people were literally trapped
in their cars and had to run from the flames.
Another problem water some areas didn't have access to hydrants lot.
Speaker 9 (17:55):
So, Brittany, it's been more than nine months now since
the fire. What actual changes has the department made?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Great question? Great question? What has the department done?
Speaker 10 (18:05):
So, first we have a new interim fire chief who
you just heard from. And second there is a ton
of new protocols. For example, all staff have to work
when there was a red flag warning. LEDWP every week
now has to give weekly updates about hydrant and water
reserve status and if a fire causes network to go down.
The department now has starlink, so that internet and cell
(18:25):
service notworking shouldn't matter. They should be able to tell
people to evacuate a lot earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Okay, these all seem to be common sense.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Again, I go back to the amount of money that
wealthy people pay in property tax and then to say, well,
the firefighters, you know wet. We should have kept everybody on,
We should have had a water report, and we should
have had perhaps some a couple of aircraft up there
fighting this fire.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Maybe it made a difference, who knows, but it seems
like this report is filled with the basics, and nobody
except Kristin Crawley, the one person in the LA Fire
Department that said we need better equipment, we need you know,
more mechanics, we need water to fight these fires.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
She was the only one that got.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Fired the essentially the whistleblower, and said we need a
lot more, and they You know, another thing that drives
me crazy. The budget for homelessness in Los Angeles is
two or three times what the budget is for the
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LA Fire Department. So when you pay your property tax,
and you know you live in a nice area like
Pacific Palisades, you're going to pay a lot more for
homelessness than you do for firefighting, and that could have
made a huge difference. And to lose a family home
that you've had for two or three generations is absolutely
(19:59):
devastating physically, mentally, you know, psychologically. I don't know if
you ever get over that. If you have a house
where you raise your kids and then their kids raise
their kids, maybe in the same house, and that's possible.
Those homes, some of those homes have been around for
you know, seventy eighty years, and now they're gone and
you have to rebuild, and that's a long process. And
(20:21):
if you do rebuild quickly, you're going to be in
a construction zone for the next four years. Every single
day you leave your driveway, there's dump trucks, heavy equipment
coming by your house and doesn't seem like a like
a five million dollar house. When construction companies are coming by,
you're hearing the hammers at six o'clock, seven o'clock in
(20:41):
the morning. It's dusty, it's dirty for the next three
or four years because of the rebuilding, and it's it
really is devastating. That area may never return to what
it used to be. And I don't know, I don't
know where. Maybe there is a lot of anger in
the Pacific Palisades area. I haven't been out there in
a while. Maybe there are a lot of people out
there that are really still pissed. But I just I
(21:05):
don't see the level of anger there should be there.
There should be outrage over this. To spend more money
on homelessness in LA than the fire Department is crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's absolutely crazy. All right. When we come back, we
got a pretty.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Interesting guest, a guy named Andrew Garcia, and he's suing
Lebron James for deception and he might have a case.
Here we come back, we'll talk to him. It's a
pretty interesting story and he might actually get a payday.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Here. You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
If we're gonna get to our guest here in a second,
but first, we have rain that just went through Norco
and Corona and now it's pressed on. You are going
to have this rain and it's going to parallel the
fifteen Freeway.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
This storm.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
I've never seen a storm like this. This cell looks
like it gets on the fifteen Freeway right near Victorville
and just stays on the freeway with you all the
way to Barstow. So, if you're traveling to Vegas going up,
I don't know, maybe to Utah, wherever the hell you're going,
this storm is going to travel with you right on
the fifteen. It literally covers the east side of the
(22:24):
fifteen all the way up to Barstow, and so expect rain. Barstow,
You're going to be getting a lot of rain at
about six fifteen. Otherwise there's a lot of rain out
in the Palm Springs area and east of Palm Springs.
If you're going to Phoenix, they're getting a ton of
rain out there. So in the desert, a lot of
rain in the desert, and just you'll deal with that,
(22:46):
all right. Andrew Garcia is with us. He is a
gentleman who is suing Lebron James for deception.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Hey, Andrew, you're on KFI? How you Bob?
Speaker 11 (22:59):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You're else I'm doing great.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So what are you suing him for the fact that
they didn't win the championship last year?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No?
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Unfortunately, no, I might have to think about that one.
But no, for a fraud, deception and misrepresentation to be specific.
That's in the filing.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wow, okay, And does it have anything to do with
his announcement the other morning.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
That's exactly what it has to do with, correct, Yeah,
for what we were deceived and what we me and
along with many other fans, thought was going to happen
that ultimately didn't happen. Unfortunately, Well I don't know what if.
Fortune or unfortunately would be the right word, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right, so what do you what are the damages? I mean,
it didn't cost you anything, did it.
Speaker 11 (23:42):
Yeah, so I'm only I think I was very reasonable
and the filing. I only requested the actual cost that
I paid, which, to be specific, is I actually had
the filing right here, something along the lines of like
eight hundred and sixty five dollars and sixty six cents.
I'm not requesting any sort of additional relief or anything unreasonable,
(24:03):
just solely what I paid.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Right, And what did you pay for tickets to get
in or hotel and food? What does that eight to
sixty five come from?
Speaker 11 (24:11):
No, no, don't. I don't have to pay a hotel
or anything. Thankfully, I am an La County residence. I'm
not too far from the stadium. However, Yeah, it was
just solely for tickets.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh wait, so I didn't know this. I was unaware
they sold tickets to this event.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
Yeah, yeah, it was late No, no, no, it was
for Laker game tickets.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I don't understand the lawsuit here. You got to walk
me through this, so okay.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you didn't. I'm sorry, I
did apologize. So basically, a lot of fans, including myself, assumed,
of course, you know, it is based on an assumption.
I'm not going to lie that he was going to
announce his retirement on social media because of something he
posted basically implying that, and there was reason to believe that,
as I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Who thought that.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
So basically that cause ticket prices for Lakers tickets throughout
the season. Oh wait yeah, exactly because if it's his
farewell tour, like what happened with Kobe Ryant, you know
some years back. That's so.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I see, okay, So where did did you buy tickets
for the final game?
Speaker 11 (25:13):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
What is that? What the issue is?
Speaker 6 (25:16):
No?
Speaker 11 (25:16):
So I actually so the final game would have been
April twelfth against.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The Utah Jazz in twenty twenty six, exactly, Okay.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
I purchased March thirty first, or twelve days before against
the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Oh I see, So you thought that this whole year
was going to be his final tour, his final year
and those tickets were more expensive than if he was
just playing another regular year exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Okay, right on the money yet, all right, I mean
you know you, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm not a lawyer, Bellio, I always refer to Bellio
went through legal law school and then got her degree
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Bellio. Are you at the Lebron James being sued desk?
Speaker 8 (25:55):
Yes, I'm at the Lebron James legal potentially being sued.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
What is your opinion there at that at the Lebron
James desk?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, I see his point.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
He bought thinking that Lebron was going to retire, and
he buys tickets to the Cavs so this would be
the last time he sees Lebron play the Cleveland Cavaliers, Okay,
and so he buys his tickets and then to find
out it wasn't anything about retirement.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Okay, it was a ruse. All right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Back to the Lebron desk with you, all right, So
I think you might have a case, and I'll tell
you why. You remember when Tom Brady retired and the
guy had Tom Brady's football from the final pass, the
final touchdown pass that he threw, and the and he
auctioned that off for seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
And then when Tom Brady unretired, that ball was worth
(26:44):
forty two dollars and fifty eight cents, and so he
wanted his money back, and he got his money back.
He got this seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars back
because that wasn't you know, it was sold as his
last pass, last touchdown pass. It turns out not to
be true. I think you might have a case there.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
Well, you know, thank you for that information. I actually
did not know that. What you said right that I
didn't know that. Yeah, maybe I'll bring that up is
evidence at my hearing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I think you should and I and if and if
you want someone to sit next to you, I got
you know, I can supply a lot of verbal ding dongs.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know, while the case is going on.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
It is open to the public. Man, I can't stop you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So what so if he doesn't show up, he owes
you that money.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
Well, obviously there's a lot of to be seen here, right,
I've actually believe it or not. It may be hard
to believe, but his representation has already reached out to me.
Really a lawyer yeah, exactly a lot of I've actually
spoken to multiple media outlets already and they respond the
same way. Yeah. So his representation, which was hired by
his management agency, reached out to me and basically, you know,
(27:53):
to inquire basically what the case was about. Right, And
I'm currently just kind of waiting to hear back from
them again. I've respoken with them with the once, but
they said they were going to review the case and
you know, we'll see the guys from there.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Andrew, do people call you Andy or is it Andrew?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
No?
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Just Andrew. I don't do Andy man.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
Oh god, Okay, he doesn't do Andy man. I get it,
I get it. I get I know a lot of
people that don't do Andy's. But if if that, what
were the what was the face value on those tickets
when you bought them?
Speaker 11 (28:23):
Well, I purchased them for eight hundred and sixty five
dollars and sixty six cents. What's the question? Exactly what
the fa.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Okay, because I think you could probably get the difference
between the face value and your eight hundred and sixty
five dollars because you can still go to the game
and use those tickets. But you're right, you shouldn't pay
outrageous prices because the price did go up thinking that
he was going to retire.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
No, that's that's a good point. And Anniel, maybe when
his representation calls me back, maybe that'll be their offer.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't know, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But this is also weird though, because if he turns
around and gives you that money, there's going to be
a line all the way to San Diego of people
in the same boat, you.
Speaker 11 (29:05):
Know exactly, And oh, yeah, you got a good point.
And I was thinking the same thing as well. That's
why I'm very curious to see how this plays out.
It's kind of unique. But yeah, based on what he
does kind of will determine that ripple effects for others.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I agree, you know what, and it might get people
to stop doing this crap too. So I'm on your
side because you know, I don't know how long you listen.
Maybe you don't know this show and maybe don't listen
to k if. I understand that. But I was a big,
huge and Bellio can confirm this. I'm the biggest Share
fan in the world. I love Share and her music.
I go all the way back to Sonny and Share,
and you know, I followed the family and all her
(29:38):
marriages and everything, and I bought tickets to her final tour,
and I was I was tickled, pink, man, I love
that you know, that Share and my favorite song of
shares is probably wait hold on sec half breed. That's
all I ever heard it, half breed.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's all I have heard.
Speaker 11 (30:03):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I was dancing my hands off.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So I go to that Share concert, her final tour
and then guess what, Andrew two year, an year and
a half later, she's on tour again.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Wow, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 11 (30:18):
You need to take her a small claim?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's right?
Speaker 11 (30:20):
That's your limitations might have to not be expired. Though,
how many years ago?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Was that about? About twelve years ago? Actually?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Oh yeah, well, good luck with that one.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
All right, So you you you got to keep us.
We're gonna check in with you every once in a
while and see what the outcome is.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, that's not a problem, all right, all right, thanks
for calling six forty on your Side?
Speaker 11 (30:42):
Yeah problem, all right?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Thanks man. All right, there we go.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's a new segment we do six forty on your Side.
Was it brought to you by Yeah? Bye, honey, Honey
Baked chicken wings and straw had pizza. All right, we're
bringing back extra I think.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
So.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All right, we're live Dodgers zero, Phillies zero, and they
just committed an air, which sucks, but it is the
sixth inning and there is no score in that game.
We'll keep you updated, and don't forget. You got a storm.
We're gonna come back with the weather. Get a lot
of rain in the desert. We're covering everything right here
on KFI AM six forty Conway Show, on demand on
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