Dr. Michael Daignault broke down the latest on pediatric COVID vaccines — the American Academy of Pediatrics is recommending shots for kids as young as 6 months to 23 months, but their guidance doesn’t exactly line up with the CDC’s, and questions remain on whether insurance will fully cover them. The heat was on — literally. About 25,000 Camarillo residents lost power after an animal damaged equipment. On a personal note, Mark shared how his mailman delivered the remains of his cat Frenchie with compassion and respect. Fox 11 anchor Elex Michaelson joined to discuss his exit from the station, as well as breaking political news: the California Legislature voting in favor of a major redistricting plan. Elex was back for more insight on his departure and the ripple effects of the redistricting vote.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It is
an insanely hot day that will only remain this way Tomorrow.
I think it's gonna be every bit is hot, if
not even a little bit hotter, and then Saturday, as
it turns out, it's going to be just a little
bit cool, I mean almost. It seems like an imperceptible
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amount of cooling on Saturday. So I wanted to talk
to doctor Michael Daniel about something that's going on with
the pediatric vaccines. You know, the vaccines and vaccine schedule
is recommended by this Board of Pediatricians, and they'll make
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recommendations on vaccines for those who are eighteen and younger.
And obviously, with the controversy around vaccines and all of that,
there's a whole other world of recommendations or lack of
recommendations from the American Academy of Pediatrics. So they're saying
that the American Academy of Pediatrics is saying that that
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kids who are six months to twenty three months should
get a COVID nineteen vaccine. Now that now the FEDS,
I mean under RFK Junior saying, know, that's not the recommendation,
at least that's my understanding of it. And then there
are other recommendations in addition. But to get clear on this,
I asked somebody who's an actual er doctor and an
esteemed doctor at that doctor Michael Daniel, to join this hut.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Doctor. How are you pay?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Every time I see you on social media, you're in
the gym. So I guess the gym is part of
staying healthy. So thank you for taking time out of
your reps to be with us. But I wanted to
ask you about this this statement from the American Academy
of Pediatrics. They're saying that kids six months to twenty
three months should get a COVID nineteen vaccine. But that
is not what the government is now saying. The government
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now in control of people who are not big ones
on vaccines.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Correct, Mark.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So this is the American Academy of Pediatrics, and this
is the first time in three decades that their recommendation
has differed from what has come out of the federal government,
the CDC. And what parents need to know about this
is that for young children, particularly infants, who don't have
a mature immune system and obviously not yet have have
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not yet been exposed to COVID, either from infection or
one or two vaccine. Those is like most young people
and adults are right now. The CDC has said, under
RFK and his new panel of vaccine Advisors, they don't
recommend that kids six months to twenty three months of
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age get the updated COVID vaccine this.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Fall, and the AAP went against that and said, no,
actually that's not right. The first exposure for infants should
become a vaccine, the CODE vaccine specifically, and that's the
safest way.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
To prime their immune system. And I can tell you
you know, as an er doctor in the in the
phone in the winter months, any respiratory virus, whether it's
covid flu, the common cold, can land an infant in
the ICU very easily. They're just not equipped to battle
a viral infection like the rest of us are. So
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the ap came out with these recommendations for COVID vaccine
along with RSB and food vaccines, saying that you know,
infants and young children need to be protected to keep
them out of the er, out of the hospital, and
certainly out of the ICU, and that is against what
RFK and the CDC have recommended this share, which is
which is startling. But this is where we're at, and
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I'm kind of happy to see the AAP take the
stance against them and you know, finally take the fight
against these anti vaxxers.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
This is part of the immunization schedule that the AAP
recommends that American Academy of Pediatrics. You got AAP is
put out this immunization schedule that they recommend.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Right correct, Yeah, and that's included with you know everything else.
And you know, I'm glad you brought that up because
a lot of the frequent arguments from the Fromara cas
MAHA movement is that, you know, all of a sudden,
we have kids being vaccinated against twenty thirty different diseases
and like, you know, this wasn't like that years ago,
and that's not true. I mean, there's been a steadily
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steady increase, but it hasn't happened all at once. And
you know, this is the day and age we live in,
with the modern science and the miracle of vaccine technology,
that there are so many more diseases that we can
prevent illness against and you know, I just wanted to
speak to and correct that misinformation for sure, what.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Happens on insurance on that doctor?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean, what is the does insurance now with the
government not putting it on their immunization schedule no longer
cut for example, that COVID nineteen vaccine for the kid.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So basically, when you with Obamacare, private insurans you know,
are required to cover any vaccines that are recommended by.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The CDC Advisory Committee where people just get them for free.
So when you have the new CDC Advisory Committee now UNDERREFKA,
not recommending them, then insurance private insurers can say, you
know what, we're not going to pay for this. And
what's going to happen for a lot of people that
have to make a decision between you know, eating, buying
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groceries paying for vaccines, They're going to choose to not
pay for the vaccine for their kids. And one of
the things that AAP did come out and say, and
their recommendation is that they are going to you know,
advocate to the insurance companies that they still need to
cover this because you know, these are tens of thousands
of pediatricians in this organization, that and including your pediatrician
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in your neighborhood and whoever's taking care of your kids
that knows your kids well, are still recommending these vaccines
and you know, asking that private insurance still cover them. So,
I mean, I think this will be a real wake
up point for insurance companies to see what they're going
to do if they're gonna say, well, the federal governments
that are not covered, or they're going to do the
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right thing and go by what the American Academy of
Pediatrics is recommending.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Now this is really it's fascinating too because also if
you're playing the numbers, you know, they have these actuarial
tables or whatever these insurance peoples are done, they try.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
To figure out. I'm sure they use AI.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now you know, what's the smarter move here to pay
for the COVID nineteen stuff that we don't have to
play for the COVID when the kid gets COVID and
he's brought to the hospital and or is it just
better to say no to the COVID vaccine and just
take the bullet when the kid goes to the hospital
with COVID. I don't know, but you've seen an efficacy
to the COVID nineteen, the mutation oriented strains that they
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are now updated the vaccine with. I mean you still
feel as though you can have some confidence that they
do help as part of an immunization schedule for kids
and for adults.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah. So again this goes back to how amazing the
mRNA vaccine technology is is that we can quickly update
it every so months to.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Target new strains.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Of covid or for bird food for example, if that
ever takes off, and it just makes it so much easier.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And you know, it's interesting. We think about when RFKA
a couple of weeks ago canceled that half a billion
dollars worth of research into mRNA.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Technology, and he said, you know, we want to invest
more into a full whole virus vaccine where the vaccine
that you get includes remnants of the entire viral genome.
The reason why we moved away from that is because
there's more side effects when you have a vaccine that
includes the whole BioGenome like food, for example, COVID nineteen,
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it just targets the protein that covid uses to get
into our virus. And that's why it's the technology is
just so amazing because all you have to do is
update that spike protein that COVID has and you have
a new vaccine that's updated for the fall or the winter.
And so yeah, I mean it's great that we can
still be able to do that, and the updated COVID
shots for mRNA vaccines are still available, are still.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Going to come out this fall.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I I love talking to you because it's it does
reset me. You can lose a lot of facts in
the back and forth, and so it's great to hear
from you. And and Heather, Look, that's the way it
sounds in an er, Heather, that's why they're sirens. Okay,
don't look like that, Like, what are those sirens?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That did give you a look?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Where is the guy?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's a really eye doctor. Okay, people being brought in
on gurney's.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
This is like the pit live right now.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
This is.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well to be fair, to be fair, guys, this time
I was at the gym.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh god, I'm trying to craft an image for the guy.
I'm trying to craft an image for you and immediately
blow it up.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Me.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I was like, that doesn't sound like an ar you
cannot you cannot tell a lie.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This is a real ambulance.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So that was a real ambulance going to uh Downtown
Cover Hospital.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So he is a really r doctor. That much is true,
and that was a real ambulance. Doctor, Michael Daniel, We
watch for you on Fox eleven. You show up on
my podcast occasionally as well, and then here on KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We so appreciate you stopping through.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Thank you, Thank you folks.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Okay, all the best.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Mark Thompson here for Tim Conway Junior. The heat is on.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
They're saying conserve power as best you are able because
they may actually have to uh rolling blackout it or
you know, these are just warnings, but there is a
power outage in came Rio. Twenty five thousand people without power.
Doesn't we have to do with the heat. I don't
think some creature got into the works and as a
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result there's a power outage. As they say, I mean
in the heat of the day, twenty five thousand without power.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
O cay Leedison crews are working to restore an outage
in cam Real that's left about twenty five thousand customers
without power on this hot day. The outage was reported
at eleven o'clock this morning. Edison's website says an animal
in their equipment knocked out the power. The cooling center
at the cama Real Public Library is without power.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But is still open.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
The Pleasant Valley Recreation Community Center on Burnley Street is
now acting as a backup cooling facility, so cal Edison
initially estimated service would be restored around four point thirty,
but as of now, repairs are still underwell.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That is just brutal, and the cooling center doesn't have power,
so they have a backup cooling center. And I told
you the power people came to our place, DWP visiting
us early in the March a couple of days ago
to tell us that they're cutting the power to our
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house and the entire street on Saturday. And the reason
for that is because they're replacing or repairing a generator
at the end of the street, which is terrific. It
just happens to be that losing power for the entire
day on one of the hottest days of the year.
This literally is the biggest heat wave of the year,
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is just not optimal might be a way.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
To put it. Were you negotiating with them.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I did not negotiate, but I was told as I probed,
I actually wasn't handling the back and forth.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Courtney was handling it.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
And she said that they said they were going to
start at seven am again maybe, and they said they
would try to get it done by midday. But just
as happened in Camerio, which made me think of it,
you know, we'll have your power. We hope it'll be
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restored by fill in the blank or later tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So I think you can end up in a you know,
tough spot.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I wouldn't really worry about it at all were it
not for my last surviving cat, aged cat eighteen years old.
Just I don't think can handle it and also certainly
can't be handled to a cooling center, Like I can't
even move this guy out of the room. Yeah, so
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I think about him. I think the human in the house,
you know, can leave, and the younger cat would be okay.
But anyway, it's look, it's not as bad as what's
happening in the camerio.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We're just kind of knocking around now.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But I feel for you people in camerio in the
heat of the day without power, So hopefully they'll get
that all squared away. I have to tell you something
that it was sort of just because I mentioned the cat, Sharon,
you know how it really did tear us up. It
was just a week ago that you know, our dear
frenchie sixteen year old passed away and we did everything
and we you know, went through a big surgery and
we rushed her to the hospital and it would just
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it all happened so fast. We just lost her so quickly.
It was just so sad. So you know, we're still
really raw from it. And so today, I mean, this
just happened a few hours ago. Uh, Courtney comes into
me and she's in tears, and I said, said, what
what's going on? And she said, I have to tell
you the most beautiful thing. The postman stopped his route
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because he saw the cars in the driveway. He knew
we were home, and he brought me the remains. I
guess it says cremation on it or something or some
kind of indication on the box. And he said, so,
he said, I didn't want to just leave this. I
wanted to bring it to me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Isn't that beautiful. Yeah, so respectful. Yeah, really great.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's so you know, that's your postal delivery person stepping
up and she was, you know, just of course we were,
you know, so emotional of it, and you're reached and you,
I mean, when others sort of respect how emotional it is,
especially somebody like that, it's really, uh, it's really pretty
cool that in contrast to the other delivery people who
just toss stuff over the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm just saying, how a little heart you've had stuff
tossed over the fence. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Really, I have to tell you though, to be honest,
if I were an Amazon delivery person, I'd look for
someplace deliver it, and then ultimately I might toss it
over the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I did see myself a fence tosser. Also, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Know, I'm kind of make sure that it's nothing breakable,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, I'd check it out.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I'd squeeze the little package to make sure, and then
I'm you know, I'm pretty much tossing it over the fence.
But I appreciate the I think most all delivery people
are trying to make sure that, you know, they deliver
stuff intact.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
If at all possible.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Once in a while you get somebody who doesn't given it,
you know, but in general they're pretty they're pretty sensitive
when we come back, what's next? Share and you're my
north star, isn't it? Alex Michael's that's what I thought. Yeah,
the California Legislature approving the redistricting plan to counter the
Texas redistricting plan. There is redistricting. It's it's the month
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of redistricting everyone and our answer to the Texas redistricting
will discuss as that announcement follows the official approval. Alex Michaelson.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Next, you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Thank you for being with us on this insanely hot
day that we'll only get more insanely hot tomorrow and
then we kind of, I guess, get modestly incrementally better
on Saturday. Big news today in California politically is that
it will go to a vote on redistricting in November.
So the legislature passing what was really the answer to
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the Texas redistricting and Gavin Newsom giving a sort of
a I would say it kind of a battle plan
as he called out Donald Trump for asking Texas for
the five extra seats that he'll get out of Texas,
and California is sort of responding to that call. Speaking
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of responding to a call, we put up the batbeam
to talk to mister California politics. How about it for
Alex Michaelson, High.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Alex ding John with you, Mark Dong.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So Elex, you can give us the state of the
state on this. Prior to this, maybe we should just
note there was a kind of a neutral or a
more neutral drawing of districts in congressional districts in California.
And what this is is a sort of situational response
is the way NEWSOM is casting it to what's happening
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in Texas. So we throw out the neutrality and now
we're going, okay, we can play the same game that
you're playing in Texas.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Right, And that neutrality started with Arnold Schwarzenegger and this
big push twenty eight and twenty ten to do independent
redistrict things, saying that Pardsen ship shod be a part
of it. You know, we're going to have regular people, Democrats, Republicans,
independents equally divided to draw these maps, and what they're
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saying now is, well, screw that, because they're being more partisans.
So we're going to be just as partisan because we're
not going to keep getting beaten up by them. And so,
you know, if Texas is going to do five Republican districts,
California is let's do five Democratic districts. And that independent
redistricting thing. We're not entirely getting rid of it. We'll
bring it back in twenty thirty one, but for the
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time being, while Donald Trump's still a threat, you know,
we're getting rid of it. And what it means if
this thing goes through, who is you know, there's probably
five Republican members of Congress right now who likely would
have won reelection who are now going to be out.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Of a job. The redistricting thing is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jerrymandering is something that's been around since the beginning of
the Republic, of course, but you can get.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Into a little trouble.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I mean, usually you can draw these district pretty insanely
severely to cover yourself for either party. I'm talking about
once in a while, you can redraw yourself into problems.
And there have been surprises along the way.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Sure, and by the way, I mean two things we
don't know and that are not a for sure thing. One,
it's not a for sure thing that California voters are
going to back this. They could say, we don't like this.
And two, even if they do, some of these districts
that you know are supposed to be so jerrymandered, aren't
that jerrymandered? So like this Ken Calvert seat, I think
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it's going to end up being like a Kamala Harris
plus three district, meaning that it's like three percent more
Democrats than Republicans. Like that's not a slim dunk, sure,
and so that could also happen where some of these
Republicans actually end up winning.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Anyway, does the kind of smack talking that the governor
does as he calls this stuff out toward Donald Trump.
He in his statement today talked about the Ice agents
masked men outside of his first announcement that was regarding
this just a few days ago, and he talked about
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the private army that essentially Donald Trump has put together.
Those are his words, the governor's word, a private army
for Donald Trump is what he said. Moving into American cities,
first in the district of Columbia, then of course in
Los Angeles, and there have been calls from the White
House to actually increase this peacekeeping force, this anti crime force,
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with the moving some of these same kinds of troops
into other typically he's mentioned blue cities like Chicago, Los Angeles,
San Francisco. Can you speak to kind of the smack
talk back and forth, It seems like Newsom is is
really out alone doing this. At least it cranks up
to ten the way he is.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
So.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Gavin Newsom doesn't want this fight to be about gerrymandering,
which is a concept most people don't understand. He doesn't
want it to be about district lines. He wants to
make this a referendum on Donald Trump and make it
about do you want a Democratic House or do you
want a Republican House. Do you like Donald Trump or
do you not? Because he knows in California they're twenty
five percent more Democrats than there are Republicans. So this
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can be a way for Democrats in California to give
the middle finger to Donald Trump and trump Ism. He
probably wins, and that does two things. It helps him
in California, but most importantly it helps him on the
national stage where he's trying to run for president, or
at least certainly seems like he is. And so it
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gets him a w on the board at a time
when Democrats don't have power in the House, the Senate,
the Supreme Court, the presidency, they do. He's the biggest
thing there is. He's the governor of the bluest state,
which is also the biggest state in the Union. And
this is his chance to get attention. And by the way,
what Donald Trump has taught us is in the attention economy,
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getting attention is how you win. And so Gavin Newsom
now is getting attention using Donald Trump's playbook. Whether you
like him or not. His social media followers are up
by the millions, his views are in the tens of
millions of people that are seeing him. His poll numbers
in the Democratic primary have gone up, his fundraising has
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gone way up. So if the objective is to be
the Democratic nominee, all of this right now has been
great for Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Wow, that really states it well. And as you say,
if social media is a gauge of anything, and seems
as though it'd certainly a gauge of how much attention
one can gain then yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
On an uptick.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
When we come back, I want to ask you, see
how I did that, Sharon, I just said, when we
come back, like, I just presumed that he's going to
stay over, even though I haven't really asked him, he's
going to stay over.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, that was just a move. I mate, Alex, can
you stay now? I have to yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, when we come back, I want to ask you
about federal dollars and whether or not this kind of
combative back and forth between these two could affect federal
dollars in California.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So we'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
You're listening to Tim Conwayton you're on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
There is sort of a kind of an over the
top quality to everything. I mean, we're talking to Alex
Michaelson about California politics. So just because Covialt had that
mention of Donald Trump going on the ride along on
the field, as though a lot of the stuff they
did with ice agents initially, you know, doctor Phil was
out there, local news was out there. A lot of
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the theater of what they do is a big part
of this administration, don't you think, Alex so.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
You're suggesting that the reality TV show president, whose entire
life was really about branding and marketing, is focused on
TV images.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
It was like it's all a game and it's all
produced for the camera. Oh you're suggesting. You know what's
wild is say the headline that it is about the
answer to.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
See so many who come out of the Fox News
Channel universe on television all the time, they are promoting
in media buys, all these different announcements there. You know
Jenine Piro, I saw her today, I saw Pam BONDI
of course, the Homeland Security secretary.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, I mean there's a Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So they put a premium on communication, and you know something,
you know this communication is important and you've got to
tell people what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So admittedly, I mean yeah, when he.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Was first doing that in like November, I went on
social media and said a lot of people are mocking this,
but it's actually really smart.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I think a huge problem for Joe Biden was he
put a bunch of cabinet secretaries who you know, were bureaucrats,
which is fine, but none of them could really talk
about his policies. I mean, there were a few exceptions,
like Pete Buddhage edge of Jennifer Grant Home was great.
I mean, there are a few people that were good
on TV, but how often did you see Janet Yellen
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talking up the economy or Lloyd Austen talking about defense
strategy or any of these people. They just didn't And so,
you know, one of Biden's biggest problems in the end
was that obviously being old, but that a lot of
people didn't know about his accomplishments and didn't know about
what he was doing. And so having a cabinet of
people that are all good on TV, that all understand
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social media, that all are interesting personalities that can go
into local markets around the country, do interviews with just
about anybody and get a lot of attention. I think
it's a big plus for Donald Trump, and maybe there's
a lesson for Democrats, not that everything should just be
a TV show, but that picking people who can communicate
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is sure.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I've said it for years.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Messaging is important, and you know, even the message they
chose and the ramp up to Donald Trump's reascendants, you know,
they found the things that resonated with the public. So
you're right, I mean, the issue becomes, you know, you
want somebody who's competent in addition to being somebody who
can rep the brand. You know, you don't, You're just
not looking for somebody who can just rep the brand.
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You're looking for somebody who also has competence. And I
think that, you know, that's where a lot of the
controversy can be wrapped up. But because we are been
talking about the federal government in California, I wanted to
get to that question, which is, you know, gavinism has
been so outfront and he has been so aggressive in
taking on the president and kind of smack talking back
to the Trump administration. How might that affect us in
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California with federal dollars needed around any number of disasters
that may emerge or just the regular federal money that
we depend on annually.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Well, obviously it's not great. Potentially, yeah, I mean I
think that on something like the fire funding that most
likely is going to be combined with other disasters like
Texas flood and other things to kind of create a
framework where everybody's kind of got a bit of a
a stake in this, and so Republican states and Democratic
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states have to vote for it because their states needs
the money. I think we get the fire money. That's
my read talking to a lot of different people in
Congress about what happens there. I mean, I get all
of it that he wants, but we probably get some
of it. I mean, Newsom would probably tell you that,
you know, the short game maybe isn't great, but the
long game is so if they can flip the Democratic
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House to a Democratic House, then they potentially get a
lot more money, right, They get a lot more federal funding.
They have an ally there, they have people that can
stand up. And if, in his mind, if you let
the gerrymander in Texas go, you give up the House,
you're probably not going to win the Senate based off
the back Trump's in there, you know until twenty twenty
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nine January. Then you're you're, you know, out of luck
and you've got no allies, and so you know, he
would say that doing this may hurt, you know, immediately,
but could really be helpful for the next two years.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, and trying to kind of suck up to Trump
seems to have backfired in some ways. I Mean, we've
seen any number of media organizations and academic institutions and
the like try to sort of play that game, and
it doesn't always work out so well.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
And there's sometimes it does though. I mean, we're seeing
Bunny examples of sucking up to Trump being an effective strategy.
But I also think that Trump responds and respects to strength, right.
I mean, I think there's part of Donald Trump who
finds what Newsom is doing right now to be annoying,
But I also think there's part of him that respects it,
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that thinks it's kind of smart, and that he's good
on TV and doing something interesting, you know. I think Trump, like,
I know, like Trump like really respective Nancy Pelosi because
he thought that she was a killer, right, That's the
word that he would use to describe her, and that
he thought a lot of the Democrats were weak. And
I think that's part of the reason he loves strong men,
right Like, he likes people that understand power and know
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how to wield it and are tough, and so I
think he probably, you know, quietly thinks that Newsom is
doing something kind of interesting right now.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
That's interesting in itself. I just remember that Pelosi also
was something of an impediment to him, because at that
point he didn't have both Houses of Congress, and so
this is different. I mean, I really see a chief
executive in Donald Trump. Now. He's feeling it, you know,
he's really feeling it, and he's he's got a lot
of flexes and he's using them all.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
You know, he is the most powerful president certainly of
my life, and he's got it going right now, I mean,
and using and expanding the office of the presidency in
a way that no other president had and really pushing
the limits of what executive power looks like. And it's
kind of interesting to me also that he's doing this
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at a time when he does have a Republican House
and Senate, and he probably could pass a lot of
this stuff as legislation so that it would be longer term,
you know. I mean, the challenge with doing so much
by executive order is that you know, when you leave,
they can all be overturned. And so it's interesting that
he's he really doesn't use the Congress all that much
(29:29):
other than that big beautiful bill, and it's kind of
basically doing everything else on his own using executive authority.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
But C point A, which is that I think he
likes the flex He likes to be able to call
things out, make things happen right away. I mean, the
process of passing bills through Congress is excruciatingly slow, even
for his big beautiful bill. I mean he had to,
you know, make calls and then other people are getting
attention and they're doing media interviews and they might not
vote for it. And I don't think he likes that.
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I mean, don't you know, don't get yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
And he also doesn't seem to be particularly focused on
the institution right or even maybe the long term effect.
I think he's focused on the next news cycle. So
I don't know if he really cares if this stuff
is in place in twenty years. He's trying to get
through the next twenty months.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well, that's the story on California. It's the story on
Trump on this quite eventful week. When Texas makes decisions
that will affect the House of Representatives in California may
enter that same kind of realm. Elex, we love your takes.
I know you're not on Channel eleven. I watched your
Channel eleven farewell. It was quite lovely. It was quite
(30:36):
thank you. I would even say emotional. Yeah, it was
really quite quite impressive.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
It's emotional for me. Yeah, thank you. So yeah, I'm
out of a job now, so it's nice to have
someplace to talk about this stuff and not just to myself.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well you come by our podcast, the Mark Thompson Show
there on YouTube once in a while.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'll put now that I can fire the flair.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You'll have to come up with a whole other of
excuses for why you can't do it.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
And I love you using this time to promote yourself.
Well done.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, well, I mean I do it once in a while.
If I can piggyback off you to promote myself, all
the better.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I'm the king of it. You gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Always be promoting, right, Always be promoting Alex Michaelson. Come
visit us again, appreciate it. Let's get you in the
studio soon. I want a good talking to you, Okay.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Ding dong with you, Ding Dong with you.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Alex Michaelson Conway Show on demand on the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 8 (31:34):
Now you can always hear us live on k if
I AM six forty four to seven pm Monday through Friday,
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It's KFI AM six forty and you're listening to the
Conway Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It is
an insanely hot day that will only remain this way Tomorrow.
I think it's gonna be every bit is hot, if
not even a little bit hotter, and then Saturday, as
it turns out, it's going to be just a little
bit cool, I mean almost. It seems like an imperceptible
(00:21):
amount of cooling on Saturday. So I wanted to talk
to doctor Michael Daniel about something that's going on with
the pediatric vaccines. You know, the vaccines and vaccine schedule
is recommended by this Board of Pediatricians, and they'll make
(00:43):
recommendations on vaccines for those who are eighteen and younger.
And obviously, with the controversy around vaccines and all of that,
there's a whole other world of recommendations or lack of
recommendations from the American Academy of Pediatrics. So they're saying
that the American Academy of Pediatrics is saying that that
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kids who are six months to twenty three months should
get a COVID nineteen vaccine. Now that now the FEDS,
I mean under RFK Junior saying, know, that's not the recommendation,
at least that's my understanding of it. And then there
are other recommendations in addition. But to get clear on this,
I asked somebody who's an actual er doctor and an
esteemed doctor at that doctor Michael Daniel, to join this hut.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Doctor. How are you pay?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Every time I see you on social media, you're in
the gym. So I guess the gym is part of
staying healthy. So thank you for taking time out of
your reps to be with us. But I wanted to
ask you about this this statement from the American Academy
of Pediatrics. They're saying that kids six months to twenty
three months should get a COVID nineteen vaccine. But that
is not what the government is now saying. The government
(01:54):
now in control of people who are not big ones
on vaccines.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Correct, Mark.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So this is the American Academy of Pediatrics, and this
is the first time in three decades that their recommendation
has differed from what has come out of the federal government,
the CDC. And what parents need to know about this
is that for young children, particularly infants, who don't have
a mature immune system and obviously not yet have have
(02:24):
not yet been exposed to COVID, either from infection or
one or two vaccine. Those is like most young people
and adults are right now. The CDC has said, under
RFK and his new panel of vaccine Advisors, they don't
recommend that kids six months to twenty three months of
(02:46):
age get the updated COVID vaccine this.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Fall, and the AAP went against that and said, no,
actually that's not right. The first exposure for infants should
become a vaccine, the CODE vaccine specifically, and that's the
safest way.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
To prime their immune system. And I can tell you
you know, as an er doctor in the in the
phone in the winter months, any respiratory virus, whether it's
covid flu, the common cold, can land an infant in
the ICU very easily. They're just not equipped to battle
a viral infection like the rest of us are. So
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the ap came out with these recommendations for COVID vaccine
along with RSB and food vaccines, saying that you know,
infants and young children need to be protected to keep
them out of the er, out of the hospital, and
certainly out of the ICU, and that is against what
RFK and the CDC have recommended this share, which is
which is startling. But this is where we're at, and
(03:46):
I'm kind of happy to see the AAP take the
stance against them and you know, finally take the fight
against these anti vaxxers.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
This is part of the immunization schedule that the AAP
recommends that American Academy of Pediatrics. You got AAP is
put out this immunization schedule that they recommend.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Right correct, Yeah, and that's included with you know everything else.
And you know, I'm glad you brought that up because
a lot of the frequent arguments from the Fromara cas
MAHA movement is that, you know, all of a sudden,
we have kids being vaccinated against twenty thirty different diseases
and like, you know, this wasn't like that years ago,
and that's not true. I mean, there's been a steadily
(04:29):
steady increase, but it hasn't happened all at once. And
you know, this is the day and age we live in,
with the modern science and the miracle of vaccine technology,
that there are so many more diseases that we can
prevent illness against and you know, I just wanted to
speak to and correct that misinformation for sure, what.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Happens on insurance on that doctor?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean, what is the does insurance now with the
government not putting it on their immunization schedule no longer
cut for example, that COVID nineteen vaccine for the kid.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So basically, when you with Obamacare, private insurans you know,
are required to cover any vaccines that are recommended by.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The CDC Advisory Committee where people just get them for free.
So when you have the new CDC Advisory Committee now UNDERREFKA,
not recommending them, then insurance private insurers can say, you
know what, we're not going to pay for this. And
what's going to happen for a lot of people that
have to make a decision between you know, eating, buying
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groceries paying for vaccines, They're going to choose to not
pay for the vaccine for their kids. And one of
the things that AAP did come out and say, and
their recommendation is that they are going to you know,
advocate to the insurance companies that they still need to
cover this because you know, these are tens of thousands
of pediatricians in this organization, that and including your pediatrician
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in your neighborhood and whoever's taking care of your kids
that knows your kids well, are still recommending these vaccines
and you know, asking that private insurance still cover them. So,
I mean, I think this will be a real wake
up point for insurance companies to see what they're going
to do if they're gonna say, well, the federal governments
that are not covered, or they're going to do the
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right thing and go by what the American Academy of
Pediatrics is recommending.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Now this is really it's fascinating too because also if
you're playing the numbers, you know, they have these actuarial
tables or whatever these insurance peoples are done, they try.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
To figure out. I'm sure they use AI.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now you know, what's the smarter move here to pay
for the COVID nineteen stuff that we don't have to
play for the COVID when the kid gets COVID and
he's brought to the hospital and or is it just
better to say no to the COVID vaccine and just
take the bullet when the kid goes to the hospital
with COVID. I don't know, but you've seen an efficacy
to the COVID nineteen, the mutation oriented strains that they
(06:59):
are now updated the vaccine with. I mean you still
feel as though you can have some confidence that they
do help as part of an immunization schedule for kids
and for adults.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah. So again this goes back to how amazing the
mRNA vaccine technology is is that we can quickly update
it every so months to.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Target new strains.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Of covid or for bird food for example, if that
ever takes off, and it just makes it so much easier.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And you know, it's interesting. We think about when RFKA
a couple of weeks ago canceled that half a billion
dollars worth of research into mRNA.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Technology, and he said, you know, we want to invest
more into a full whole virus vaccine where the vaccine
that you get includes remnants of the entire viral genome.
The reason why we moved away from that is because
there's more side effects when you have a vaccine that
includes the whole BioGenome like food, for example, COVID nineteen,
(08:00):
it just targets the protein that covid uses to get
into our virus. And that's why it's the technology is
just so amazing because all you have to do is
update that spike protein that COVID has and you have
a new vaccine that's updated for the fall or the winter.
And so yeah, I mean it's great that we can
still be able to do that, and the updated COVID
shots for mRNA vaccines are still available, are still.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Going to come out this fall.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I I love talking to you because it's it does
reset me. You can lose a lot of facts in
the back and forth, and so it's great to hear
from you. And and Heather, Look, that's the way it
sounds in an er, Heather, that's why they're sirens. Okay,
don't look like that, Like, what are those sirens?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
That did give you a look?
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Where is the guy?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
It's a really eye doctor. Okay, people being brought in
on gurney's.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
This is like the pit live right now.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
This is.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well to be fair, to be fair, guys, this time
I was at the gym.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh god, I'm trying to craft an image for the guy.
I'm trying to craft an image for you and immediately
blow it up.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Me.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I was like, that doesn't sound like an ar you
cannot you cannot tell a lie.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
This is a real ambulance.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
So that was a real ambulance going to uh Downtown
Cover Hospital.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So he is a really r doctor. That much is true,
and that was a real ambulance. Doctor, Michael Daniel, We
watch for you on Fox eleven. You show up on
my podcast occasionally as well, and then here on KFI.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We so appreciate you stopping through.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Thank you, Thank you folks.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Okay, all the best.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Mark Thompson here for Tim Conway Junior. The heat is on.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
They're saying conserve power as best you are able because
they may actually have to uh rolling blackout it or
you know, these are just warnings, but there is a
power outage in came Rio. Twenty five thousand people without power.
Doesn't we have to do with the heat. I don't
think some creature got into the works and as a
(10:05):
result there's a power outage. As they say, I mean
in the heat of the day, twenty five thousand without power.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
O cay Leedison crews are working to restore an outage
in cam Real that's left about twenty five thousand customers
without power on this hot day. The outage was reported
at eleven o'clock this morning. Edison's website says an animal
in their equipment knocked out the power. The cooling center
at the cama Real Public Library is without power.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
But is still open.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
The Pleasant Valley Recreation Community Center on Burnley Street is
now acting as a backup cooling facility, so cal Edison
initially estimated service would be restored around four point thirty,
but as of now, repairs are still underwell.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That is just brutal, and the cooling center doesn't have power,
so they have a backup cooling center. And I told
you the power people came to our place, DWP visiting
us early in the March a couple of days ago
to tell us that they're cutting the power to our
(11:04):
house and the entire street on Saturday. And the reason
for that is because they're replacing or repairing a generator
at the end of the street, which is terrific. It
just happens to be that losing power for the entire
day on one of the hottest days of the year.
This literally is the biggest heat wave of the year,
(11:28):
is just not optimal might be a way.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
To put it. Were you negotiating with them.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I did not negotiate, but I was told as I probed,
I actually wasn't handling the back and forth.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Courtney was handling it.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
And she said that they said they were going to
start at seven am again maybe, and they said they
would try to get it done by midday. But just
as happened in Camerio, which made me think of it,
you know, we'll have your power. We hope it'll be
(12:03):
restored by fill in the blank or later tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So I think you can end up in a you know,
tough spot.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I wouldn't really worry about it at all were it
not for my last surviving cat, aged cat eighteen years old.
Just I don't think can handle it and also certainly
can't be handled to a cooling center, Like I can't
even move this guy out of the room. Yeah, so
(12:32):
I think about him. I think the human in the house,
you know, can leave, and the younger cat would be okay.
But anyway, it's look, it's not as bad as what's
happening in the camerio.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We're just kind of knocking around now.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But I feel for you people in camerio in the
heat of the day without power, So hopefully they'll get
that all squared away. I have to tell you something
that it was sort of just because I mentioned the cat, Sharon,
you know how it really did tear us up. It
was just a week ago that you know, our dear
frenchie sixteen year old passed away and we did everything
and we you know, went through a big surgery and
we rushed her to the hospital and it would just
(13:05):
it all happened so fast. We just lost her so quickly.
It was just so sad. So you know, we're still
really raw from it. And so today, I mean, this
just happened a few hours ago. Uh, Courtney comes into
me and she's in tears, and I said, said, what
what's going on? And she said, I have to tell
you the most beautiful thing. The postman stopped his route
(13:28):
because he saw the cars in the driveway. He knew
we were home, and he brought me the remains. I
guess it says cremation on it or something or some
kind of indication on the box. And he said, so,
he said, I didn't want to just leave this. I
wanted to bring it to me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Isn't that beautiful. Yeah, so respectful. Yeah, really great.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's so you know, that's your postal delivery person stepping
up and she was, you know, just of course we were,
you know, so emotional of it, and you're reached and you,
I mean, when others sort of respect how emotional it is,
especially somebody like that, it's really, uh, it's really pretty
cool that in contrast to the other delivery people who
just toss stuff over the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm just saying, how a little heart you've had stuff
tossed over the fence. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Really, I have to tell you though, to be honest,
if I were an Amazon delivery person, I'd look for
someplace deliver it, and then ultimately I might toss it
over the fence.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I did see myself a fence tosser. Also, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Know, I'm kind of make sure that it's nothing breakable,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, I'd check it out.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I'd squeeze the little package to make sure, and then
I'm you know, I'm pretty much tossing it over the fence.
But I appreciate the I think most all delivery people
are trying to make sure that, you know, they deliver
stuff intact.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
If at all possible.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Once in a while you get somebody who doesn't given it,
you know, but in general they're pretty they're pretty sensitive
when we come back, what's next? Share and you're my
north star, isn't it? Alex Michael's that's what I thought. Yeah,
the California Legislature approving the redistricting plan to counter the
Texas redistricting plan. There is redistricting. It's it's the month
(15:10):
of redistricting everyone and our answer to the Texas redistricting
will discuss as that announcement follows the official approval. Alex Michaelson.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Next, you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Thank you for being with us on this insanely hot
day that we'll only get more insanely hot tomorrow and
then we kind of, I guess, get modestly incrementally better
on Saturday. Big news today in California politically is that
it will go to a vote on redistricting in November.
So the legislature passing what was really the answer to
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the Texas redistricting and Gavin Newsom giving a sort of
a I would say it kind of a battle plan
as he called out Donald Trump for asking Texas for
the five extra seats that he'll get out of Texas,
and California is sort of responding to that call. Speaking
(16:15):
of responding to a call, we put up the batbeam
to talk to mister California politics. How about it for
Alex Michaelson, High.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Alex ding John with you, Mark Dong.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So Elex, you can give us the state of the
state on this. Prior to this, maybe we should just
note there was a kind of a neutral or a
more neutral drawing of districts in congressional districts in California.
And what this is is a sort of situational response
is the way NEWSOM is casting it to what's happening
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in Texas. So we throw out the neutrality and now
we're going, okay, we can play the same game that
you're playing in Texas.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Right, And that neutrality started with Arnold Schwarzenegger and this
big push twenty eight and twenty ten to do independent
redistrict things, saying that Pardsen ship shod be a part
of it. You know, we're going to have regular people, Democrats, Republicans,
independents equally divided to draw these maps, and what they're
(17:18):
saying now is, well, screw that, because they're being more partisans.
So we're going to be just as partisan because we're
not going to keep getting beaten up by them. And so,
you know, if Texas is going to do five Republican districts,
California is let's do five Democratic districts. And that independent
redistricting thing. We're not entirely getting rid of it. We'll
bring it back in twenty thirty one, but for the
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time being, while Donald Trump's still a threat, you know,
we're getting rid of it. And what it means if
this thing goes through, who is you know, there's probably
five Republican members of Congress right now who likely would
have won reelection who are now going to be out.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Of a job. The redistricting thing is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jerrymandering is something that's been around since the beginning of
the Republic, of course, but you can get.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Into a little trouble.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
I mean, usually you can draw these district pretty insanely
severely to cover yourself for either party. I'm talking about
once in a while, you can redraw yourself into problems.
And there have been surprises along the way.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Sure, and by the way, I mean two things we
don't know and that are not a for sure thing. One,
it's not a for sure thing that California voters are
going to back this. They could say, we don't like this.
And two, even if they do, some of these districts
that you know are supposed to be so jerrymandered, aren't
that jerrymandered? So like this Ken Calvert seat, I think
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it's going to end up being like a Kamala Harris
plus three district, meaning that it's like three percent more
Democrats than Republicans. Like that's not a slim dunk, sure,
and so that could also happen where some of these
Republicans actually end up winning.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Anyway, does the kind of smack talking that the governor
does as he calls this stuff out toward Donald Trump.
He in his statement today talked about the Ice agents
masked men outside of his first announcement that was regarding
this just a few days ago, and he talked about
(19:20):
the private army that essentially Donald Trump has put together.
Those are his words, the governor's word, a private army
for Donald Trump is what he said. Moving into American cities,
first in the district of Columbia, then of course in
Los Angeles, and there have been calls from the White
House to actually increase this peacekeeping force, this anti crime force,
(19:41):
with the moving some of these same kinds of troops
into other typically he's mentioned blue cities like Chicago, Los Angeles,
San Francisco. Can you speak to kind of the smack
talk back and forth, It seems like Newsom is is
really out alone doing this. At least it cranks up
to ten the way he is.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
So.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Gavin Newsom doesn't want this fight to be about gerrymandering,
which is a concept most people don't understand. He doesn't
want it to be about district lines. He wants to
make this a referendum on Donald Trump and make it
about do you want a Democratic House or do you
want a Republican House. Do you like Donald Trump or
do you not? Because he knows in California they're twenty
five percent more Democrats than there are Republicans. So this
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can be a way for Democrats in California to give
the middle finger to Donald Trump and trump Ism. He
probably wins, and that does two things. It helps him
in California, but most importantly it helps him on the
national stage where he's trying to run for president, or
at least certainly seems like he is. And so it
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gets him a w on the board at a time
when Democrats don't have power in the House, the Senate,
the Supreme Court, the presidency, they do. He's the biggest
thing there is. He's the governor of the bluest state,
which is also the biggest state in the Union. And
this is his chance to get attention. And by the way,
what Donald Trump has taught us is in the attention economy,
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getting attention is how you win. And so Gavin Newsom
now is getting attention using Donald Trump's playbook. Whether you
like him or not. His social media followers are up
by the millions, his views are in the tens of
millions of people that are seeing him. His poll numbers
in the Democratic primary have gone up, his fundraising has
(21:35):
gone way up. So if the objective is to be
the Democratic nominee, all of this right now has been
great for Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Wow, that really states it well. And as you say,
if social media is a gauge of anything, and seems
as though it'd certainly a gauge of how much attention
one can gain then yeah, he's.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
On an uptick.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
When we come back, I want to ask you, see
how I did that, Sharon, I just said, when we
come back, like, I just presumed that he's going to
stay over, even though I haven't really asked him, he's
going to stay over.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, that was just a move. I mate, Alex, can
you stay now? I have to yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, when we come back, I want to ask you
about federal dollars and whether or not this kind of
combative back and forth between these two could affect federal
dollars in California.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
So we'll talk about that when we come back.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
You're listening to Tim Conwayton you're on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
There is sort of a kind of an over the
top quality to everything. I mean, we're talking to Alex
Michaelson about California politics. So just because Covialt had that
mention of Donald Trump going on the ride along on
the field, as though a lot of the stuff they
did with ice agents initially, you know, doctor Phil was
out there, local news was out there. A lot of
(22:52):
the theater of what they do is a big part
of this administration, don't you think, Alex so.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
You're suggesting that the reality TV show president, whose entire
life was really about branding and marketing, is focused on
TV images.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
It was like it's all a game and it's all
produced for the camera. Oh you're suggesting. You know what's
wild is say the headline that it is about the
answer to.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
See so many who come out of the Fox News
Channel universe on television all the time, they are promoting
in media buys, all these different announcements there. You know
Jenine Piro, I saw her today, I saw Pam BONDI
of course, the Homeland Security secretary.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, I mean there's a Pete Hegseth.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So they put a premium on communication, and you know something,
you know this communication is important and you've got to
tell people what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So admittedly, I mean yeah, when he.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Was first doing that in like November, I went on
social media and said a lot of people are mocking this,
but it's actually really smart.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I think a huge problem for Joe Biden was he
put a bunch of cabinet secretaries who you know, were bureaucrats,
which is fine, but none of them could really talk
about his policies. I mean, there were a few exceptions,
like Pete Buddhage edge of Jennifer Grant Home was great.
I mean, there are a few people that were good
on TV, but how often did you see Janet Yellen
(24:17):
talking up the economy or Lloyd Austen talking about defense
strategy or any of these people. They just didn't And so,
you know, one of Biden's biggest problems in the end
was that obviously being old, but that a lot of
people didn't know about his accomplishments and didn't know about
what he was doing. And so having a cabinet of
people that are all good on TV, that all understand
(24:39):
social media, that all are interesting personalities that can go
into local markets around the country, do interviews with just
about anybody and get a lot of attention. I think
it's a big plus for Donald Trump, and maybe there's
a lesson for Democrats, not that everything should just be
a TV show, but that picking people who can communicate
(24:59):
is sure.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I've said it for years.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Messaging is important, and you know, even the message they
chose and the ramp up to Donald Trump's reascendants, you know,
they found the things that resonated with the public. So
you're right, I mean, the issue becomes, you know, you
want somebody who's competent in addition to being somebody who
can rep the brand. You know, you don't, You're just
not looking for somebody who can just rep the brand.
(25:23):
You're looking for somebody who also has competence. And I
think that, you know, that's where a lot of the
controversy can be wrapped up. But because we are been
talking about the federal government in California, I wanted to
get to that question, which is, you know, gavinism has
been so outfront and he has been so aggressive in
taking on the president and kind of smack talking back
to the Trump administration. How might that affect us in
(25:44):
California with federal dollars needed around any number of disasters
that may emerge or just the regular federal money that
we depend on annually.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Well, obviously it's not great. Potentially, yeah, I mean I
think that on something like the fire funding that most
likely is going to be combined with other disasters like
Texas flood and other things to kind of create a
framework where everybody's kind of got a bit of a
a stake in this, and so Republican states and Democratic
(26:18):
states have to vote for it because their states needs
the money. I think we get the fire money. That's
my read talking to a lot of different people in
Congress about what happens there. I mean, I get all
of it that he wants, but we probably get some
of it. I mean, Newsom would probably tell you that,
you know, the short game maybe isn't great, but the
long game is so if they can flip the Democratic
(26:40):
House to a Democratic House, then they potentially get a
lot more money, right, They get a lot more federal funding.
They have an ally there, they have people that can
stand up. And if, in his mind, if you let
the gerrymander in Texas go, you give up the House,
you're probably not going to win the Senate based off
the back Trump's in there, you know until twenty twenty
(27:01):
nine January. Then you're you're, you know, out of luck
and you've got no allies, and so you know, he
would say that doing this may hurt, you know, immediately,
but could really be helpful for the next two years.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, and trying to kind of suck up to Trump
seems to have backfired in some ways. I Mean, we've
seen any number of media organizations and academic institutions and
the like try to sort of play that game, and
it doesn't always work out so well.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
And there's sometimes it does though. I mean, we're seeing
Bunny examples of sucking up to Trump being an effective strategy.
But I also think that Trump responds and respects to strength, right.
I mean, I think there's part of Donald Trump who
finds what Newsom is doing right now to be annoying,
But I also think there's part of him that respects it,
(27:50):
that thinks it's kind of smart, and that he's good
on TV and doing something interesting, you know. I think Trump, like,
I know, like Trump like really respective Nancy Pelosi because
he thought that she was a killer, right, That's the
word that he would use to describe her, and that
he thought a lot of the Democrats were weak. And
I think that's part of the reason he loves strong men,
right Like, he likes people that understand power and know
(28:13):
how to wield it and are tough, and so I
think he probably, you know, quietly thinks that Newsom is
doing something kind of interesting right now.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
That's interesting in itself. I just remember that Pelosi also
was something of an impediment to him, because at that
point he didn't have both Houses of Congress, and so
this is different. I mean, I really see a chief
executive in Donald Trump. Now. He's feeling it, you know,
he's really feeling it, and he's he's got a lot
of flexes and he's using them all.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
You know, he is the most powerful president certainly of
my life, and he's got it going right now, I mean,
and using and expanding the office of the presidency in
a way that no other president had and really pushing
the limits of what executive power looks like. And it's
kind of interesting to me also that he's doing this
(29:08):
at a time when he does have a Republican House
and Senate, and he probably could pass a lot of
this stuff as legislation so that it would be longer term,
you know. I mean, the challenge with doing so much
by executive order is that you know, when you leave,
they can all be overturned. And so it's interesting that
he's he really doesn't use the Congress all that much
(29:29):
other than that big beautiful bill, and it's kind of
basically doing everything else on his own using executive authority.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
But C point A, which is that I think he
likes the flex He likes to be able to call
things out, make things happen right away. I mean, the
process of passing bills through Congress is excruciatingly slow, even
for his big beautiful bill. I mean he had to,
you know, make calls and then other people are getting
attention and they're doing media interviews and they might not
vote for it. And I don't think he likes that.
(29:55):
I mean, don't you know, don't get yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
And he also doesn't seem to be particularly focused on
the institution right or even maybe the long term effect.
I think he's focused on the next news cycle. So
I don't know if he really cares if this stuff
is in place in twenty years. He's trying to get
through the next twenty months.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Well, that's the story on California. It's the story on
Trump on this quite eventful week. When Texas makes decisions
that will affect the House of Representatives in California may
enter that same kind of realm. Elex, we love your takes.
I know you're not on Channel eleven. I watched your
Channel eleven farewell. It was quite lovely. It was quite
(30:36):
thank you. I would even say emotional. Yeah, it was
really quite quite impressive.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
It's emotional for me. Yeah, thank you. So yeah, I'm
out of a job now, so it's nice to have
someplace to talk about this stuff and not just to myself.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well you come by our podcast, the Mark Thompson Show
there on YouTube once in a while.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'll put now that I can fire the flair.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You'll have to come up with a whole other of
excuses for why you can't do it.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
And I love you using this time to promote yourself.
Well done.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, well, I mean I do it once in a while.
If I can piggyback off you to promote myself, all
the better.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
I'm the king of it. You gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Always be promoting, right, Always be promoting Alex Michaelson. Come
visit us again, appreciate it. Let's get you in the
studio soon. I want a good talking to you, Okay.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Ding dong with you, Ding Dong with you.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
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