September 10, 2025 • 29 mins
Tim Conway Jr. opens the show shaken by the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, describing it as a gut punch and condemning the celebration of political violence from any side. ABC’s Alex Stone joins with the latest updates on the shooting, while Tim cautions listeners not to watch the graphic video circulating online, urging Charlie to be remembered for his impact instead. Later, Jay Leno calls in to share his reaction, calling the attack a death for free speech and a cowardly act from someone unable to win the argument. Tim predicts the “Charlie Kirk movement” will only grow stronger, inspiring activists across the nation. The hour closes with reflection on the lasting effect this tragedy will have on college campuses and political discourse.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's k IF.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six and you're listening to the Conway Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. And what a horrible,
horrible day in America, one of the worst. Charlie Kirk
was shot and killed in you Tom, and I'm sure
you've heard the news, and now the videos are all
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coming out. I urge you, please please don't seek out
the video of him getting shot. I tried to avoid
it for four or five hours. I finally accidentally saw
it when searching for something else, and I wanted to
throw up. I almost passed out. It's it's gruesome, it's horrible.
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Don't let your kids watch it. Try to avoid it.
Hopefully one day that video will disappear off of the Internet,
which may be very tough, and his kids won't have
to look at that. But it's it's it really is
a gut punch. It really you know, you drive around.
I was in Hemmet and I was driving back from
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Hemmett and I was at I was at a Ford
dealership in Hemmet and the guy who owns the place
I was walking around with him got named Tim Moran,
and one of his general managers came up and said,
did you hear that Charlie Kirk was shot and we
both knew who he was. And I said, oh my god,
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what happened? And he said, it doesn't look good. And
that was around twelve fifteen or so, and I get
my car. I turned the radio on instantly. KFI had it.
When they went to commercial, I went to eleven fifty,
which was Sean Hannity. He was on live, and I
drove home from Hemmett numb. I wasn't speeding, I wasn't
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going slow. I was driving in one lane. I wasn't
interested in changing lanes or going fast or going slow,
or talking on the phone or texting. I just sat
there in the car, going back from KFI to eleven fifty,
eleven fifty to KFI, back and forth, getting as much
information as I can. And then when I finally hit
the two ten freeway right at Baldwin at Sandia Avenue,
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that's when Sean Hannity came on and read an email
or a truth social that Donald Trump put out and
said that Charlie Kirk has died, that he was murdered today,
and you could see other people on the road. We're
just numb, you know, if you knew who he was,
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you had a really strong reaction to that. If you
didn't know who he was, you quickly found out that
he's a father with two young kids. He was involved
in with Trump and the MAGA movement, and a great speaker,
going from one campus to another with a huge organization
in Arizona. And he was only thirty one years old.
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This guy's owned this company, has run this Turning Point
since he was eighteen years old. One of the smartest guys,
one of the just the steady person in the United
States when everybody's crazy, never yelled at anybody. He went
from two people working at Turning Point fifty, you know,
thirteen years ago to now hundreds of people work for
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him and shot and killed because evidently, as far as
we know, and we're going to get more information, somebody
didn't like what he was saying. Somebody didn't like what
he said, and he was shot and killed in front
of all those kids. All those kids can be traumatized,
that witness that, all of them for the rest, maybe
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for the rest of their life. His young kids, I
think he has a son and a daughter. They're going
to be on I know they're going to be on
They're going to be watching the internet forever and accidentally
running across that footage because their last name is Kirk,
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and twenty years from now they'll be putting their name
in and that Charlie Kirk video will come up. That's
what they have to look forward to their whole lives.
It's horrible, it's the worst. Let's talk to Alex Stone,
he's been on it with ABC News. Alex, where were
you when you heard it? Were you at Were you
at work?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Here here in the office. And did you know who
he was? I bet you did.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh, yeah, of course. And I mean immediately it was
pretty clear it was fatal from the videos coming in,
and they did rush him to a hospital, a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
We believe his security team.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
He did have a security team. That nothing they could
have done in that moment that they threw him into
a black suv and they took off to the hospital
and there was nothing that they could do at.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The hospital in that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But it you know, you look at where the shooter was,
they now believe, and they confirmed a little while ago
on a rooftop dressed all in black. This was not
somebody in the crowd. Who had a disagreement with him
that got angry in the moment and pulled out, you know,
a handgun or something like that. This was a planned,
as the Governor of Utah put it, assassination, political assassination
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that clearly had some planning. But they do have somebody
in custody right now. The elderly man the in custody
earlier today is no longer suspected in this. They do
actually still have him on something else for obstruction of justice,
but not for this shooting itself.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So all day today they.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Have been searching for the shooter after they realize that
guy was not the shooter. And in the last little
while they have somebody who they think may have been
it's a person of interest and they're dealing with that
right now. But just listen to Governor Spencer Cox a
few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This is a dark day for our state. It's a
tragic day for our nation, and I want to be
very clear that this is a political assassination.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And tim the crowd there by those who were in
the crowd telling us that it was probably sixty to
seventy percent supporters of Kirk's and then the twenty thirty
forty percent who were opposing him and making noise but
doing what he wanted. This proved me wrong, tour to do,
getting the discussion going, and they were in the Q
and a portion of that talking about transgender issues. And
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then the one single shot which looks like it went
through the chest. Those who were there say the neck.
But it was a fatal shot with that one shot.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah. And you know, I've seen a lot of videos
of Charlie cook Kirk even before today, and I've seen
him get beat in some you know, in some debates,
and he's willing to admit it. I mean, he wasn't
the you know, a flawless guy and had to win
every debate. He got beat a couple of debates, and
he was, you know, and he honored the people that
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beat me. He says that very well read. It's a
good point. I'll think about it, and you know it
it it It screams of what this country is that now,
when we don't like what somebody's saying and we've run
out of ideas to oppose them, we have to shoot
him in the head.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, and we've seen it time and time again. I mean,
think of the shot at President Trump during the campaign
and that that one came very close to being fatal
as well, very close. So yeah, then he was going
to go on. This was kind of a part two
to his American comeback tour that he had done on
university campuses and the spring and the Turning Point USA
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had put it on and that big crowd, So he
was going to go to other parts of Utah and
to Colorado and Minneapolis and Virginia, and they were expecting
big college crowds to come out and support them and
debate them. And he was invited by the local Utah
Valley University chapter of Turning Point USA in Orum and invited.
There had been throwing out MAGA hats and pumping up
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the crowd and then was sitting there in that chair
and then that one fire that shot fired.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You know, I understand people being emotional over this. I
under stand people having no opinion whatsoever. They didn't know
who he was, and they're you know, they got complications
in their own life and they don't follow the news
pretty pretty very closely. And then I well, I don't understand.
I sort of like when people celebrate this, celebrate Charlie
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Kirk's death because that tells you who they are. Yeah,
and I like to know that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know, from both sides, it would
seem that this is not what Americans would want this
country to be and have political violence in this way.
That and you heard from the governor there a little
while ago saying, no matter where you come down on it,
this is not the way that that we handle situations.
And we don't know anything about this person. We don't
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if it's a man or a woman who's in custody
right now, if it turns out to be the shooter,
since they did have the wrong person in custody earlier today.
But what the background or the planning or any of
that's going to be. But it does not seem like
it was spur of the moment. Seems like that that
somebody knew he was coming to that campus and they
were ready and there was nothing. We heard today from
a lot of the attendees saying, well, we didn't even
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go through security, They didn't check our bags, go through macintometers,
which yeah, they have a point, but it doesn't seem
like this person was in a crowd anyway, It wouldn't
have made any difference.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
YEA Bunny, I appreciate you coming on and we'll talk
to you better times you've got Thanks, Thanks all right.
Alex Stoe with ABC News. Alex referenced the shooter that
is was on the roof an hour or two is
a sound familiar like what happened Pennsylvania, maybe an hour
before the event began. And we have that video up
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on our Twitter. So there's nothing violent about it. It's
just an observation of something's on that roof. It looks
like a guy with a gun an hour or an
hour and a half before that happened. And if you
want to go look at that again, there's nothing traumatic
about it. There's nobody getting shot. We're not going to
send that video out, go to Twitter. It's at Conways Show,
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at Conway Show and numb. I think that's how most
people who knew of Charlie Kirk either knew him or
knew of him, maybe had seen him speak at a rally,
at a Trump rally, maybe you saw him debate students
from around you know, different college campuses throughout the United States.
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Your numb, and that's the right feeling. You got the
right feeling. The people who are celebrating that's the wrong feeling.
But it's also nice to know that that is their
true feeling. And I again, I like when they express
it because now you know who they are. You know
who they are, and you'll always remember that. You'll file
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that in your brain. Oh, Okay, that's the guy. That's
the gal who celebrated this man who has two his
beautiful wife and two small children. This person I work with,
celebrate that death. This person I go to school with,
celebrate that death. This first of my family, celebrate that death.
And you'll keep that in a roll of dex. And
you'll remember that for a long time, a long time,
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and you should, because that's not the right reaction to
what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (11:11):
We have an update on Charlie Cook Charlie Kirk. This
came out about twenty minutes or so ago. If you're
just tuning in and maybe you just got off an
airplane and your airplane didn't have live TV or any
kind of news. Charlie Kirk, who is a big progressive,
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big conservative on campus, going from one college to another
talking to kids both liberal and conservative, was shot and
killed today in Utah and during what was supposed to
be a three hour event cut short, and we have
the audio. This is the audio of the event starting.
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And this is his last video that he ever put out.
This is not the video of him getting shot. I
don't recommend you look at that. I tried to avoid
it all day then accidentally saw it and wanted to
throw up. And it's not worth watching. You'll want to
remember Charlie Kirk the way you remembered him if you're
(12:15):
a fan, and not watch that video. But here's the
last post that Charlie Cook put up on social media
before being shot. At Utah Valley. He comes in. There's
probably about three or four, maybe five thousand kids there
on campus in this sort of I don't know, like
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a half bowl amphitheater outdoor type place. And he comes
out and he has a shirt that says freedom on
it and he's throwing hats to everybody. And here's the
audio of it. That's a lot of people in Utah.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Tell you love.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
A beautiful day out in Utah probably you know, sixty
five seventy degrees sun was out very you know, barely
a cloud in the sky. That sort of Utah clean
fall air. All these kids very enthusiastic to see him.
Standing room only. The whole bowl was full, and there
are people standing on buildings surrounding this event. And if
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you want to see the suspicious guy on the on
top of one of these buildings, go to our Twitter.
We have that up there on our Twitter at Conway
Show and you can clearly see it. What looks like
a guy all dressed in all black and that's probably
where the gunshot came from. But this is Charlie Kirk's
last post today before he was shot and murdered.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
All right, we're gonna get started.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know how it works, quash an answer. If you
think you a lame from why that was great, really
appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
And we're gonna be here for a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Get comfortable, bring the best lips that Utah has to off,
huge crowd, and then we'll cut it off before he
gets shot. There's no reason to play that, no reason
to see that. All right, here's an update on what
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happened today and what we know. The new suspect is
in custody. We'll come back, we'll play this. There's a
suspect in custody and we'll have that audio for you
when we come back. It's Conway Show, very sad day,
a day you'll remember for a long time if you
were a Charlie Kirk fan. It is a gruesome day.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
What a hell of a guy, hell of a guy,
great dad, great wife. I know somebody who I'm a
friend with. A guy and his daughter works in Turning
for Turning Point USA. Said he was a spectacular boss,
one of the greatest guys you could ever work for
in the world. Never yelled at anybody, never never insult
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at anybody, welcomed everybody, and just a great vibe in
the company in Turning Point, USA in Arizona. And now
that's all up in the air.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (15:49):
Jay Leno, who's a very good friend of ours, always
calls us up and always has some great jokes, but
is very serious when it comes time to reflect done
what's going on in America? And he called us during
the break and said, hey, I got some thoughts on this.
So Jay Leno, you're with us? Jay, where were you
when did you? Did you know who Charlie.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Kirk was did okay, you know to me, it's not
just it's not a random shooting. I mean it's a
death of free speech. I think that you are so
illiterate and so stupid you can't answer verbally and you
have to shoot somebody with a gun to quote win
the argument. You know, when I was in school, Lively
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debate was unbelievable to have the SDS, the students of
Democratic Society debate somebody else. I can remember when James
Baldwin debated William F. Buckley at Oxford University. It was
just fascinating to here are two guys both way smarder
than I am, and I understood both their point of view.
(16:56):
It's just fascinating. I mean, it's just I mean, school shooting.
I don't understand those at all across those are so stupid.
But this is a political assassination of a man I
didn't necessarily agree with, but I certainly enjoyed listening to
because oh I didn't know that. Okay, and I don't
have to agree on everything. I mean, we're in a
point in this country where if you don't agree with
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everybody and everything, you take out a gun and you
shoot them, and especially on a college campus. That's the
last time something like this happened. It got me. It
was Kent State, Oh yeah, during Vietnamium in the national
open fire on students.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But you know, Jay, you have a good point. You know,
watching a good debate is like watching a boxing match
where you know, one guy gets a good job and
then the other guy does. And watching a great debate
is really entertaining. It should be for both sides.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, And a lot of times when you watch somebody
like chairlely Kirk, it might enforce your own beliefs more
or maybe it might change your mind, but at least
it gets you thinking he's just thinking about what's going on,
you know, I mean, it's really it's such an unbelievable right.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Let me ask you something. You know, because you ran
you know, the Tonight Show for a long period of time.
You know, you have your garage, You've got a lot
of people working for you. What happens when the main guy,
you know, the main pillar of a company like that
is no longer around, you think, turning point, it can
go one of two ways. Either, you know, they close
up shop and you know and uh and everyone goes home,
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or it can get stronger over this, and I have
a feeling it's gonna be the latter. I think there's
gonna be a lot more money coming into this, and
a lot more people want to get involved. And I
think a lot of these kids are gonna go out
and try to become the next Charlie kirk and and
and go speak at at thousands of campuses.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, but that's what you know. Again, I'm not defending
or knocking anything that he says. It's just he's a
guy that's way more intelligent than me. They could out
debate me, and I could say of him, all right, okay,
you win. You I still think you're wrong, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
What I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
The idea that we can't do that anymore. The idea
is have to take out the gun and shoot the
other guy because you lost a stupid argument. And from
what I understand about this man, he was not a bully.
He was not someone who berated people. I mean, he
just made it a point and it was interesting. You know,
I enjoy listening to the other side because that's how
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that's how I get smarter. If somebody agrees with me
all the time. You know, when I tonight. I used
to tell everybody on the show, including the janitors and
the interns, you can pull a cord and stop the
train at anytime if if you hear something you think's
stupid or not funny or whatever, give me, give me
a reason why. And did it make for a longer day. Yeah,
(19:49):
we had a lot of We had a lot of
really loyal people after that because they felt they were
part of the program. You know, we live in a.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
World now where everybody feels like such an outsider for
every sing season, and it's just it's very unsettling. This
one really struck me. Yeah, me too, anytime Somas s sassinated.
But it's really the death of free speech. Yeah, the
idea that, oh I don't want to go to a
campus in Utah. I mean we're not talking about how
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the Kegs of Insurrection New York City, I mean in
the beautiful state of Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I mean, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Certainly a black eye for Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
You're right, man, Yeah, well, I mean it's I'm sure
the person probably wasn't even from Utah, but.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I know, but look, I mean everybody remembers, you know,
the Ford Theater, you know, I mean, everybody remembers, you know, Dallas,
and you know with Kennedy, you remember the you know,
the the city and the place and the facility that
happens that people just do well.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
The really sad part is we've got so many of
those now you can't remember them all.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I know, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
When I was a kid, the most shocking crime was
Richard Speck killing eight nurses. That that that was a
shooge stars for ten years. And then he just got
crazy and crimes got worse, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Know, yeah, I'm with him. Man. Look, I grew up
in the you know, the San Fernando Valley, where nobody
had an alarm system, and I remember countless nights that
my mom and dad would you know, if the if
if it was cool outside, they'd leave the door open
and just the screen door shut and never thought of
anybody coming to the house.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Never I remember robbing your house. Once I knew that,
I said, father, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Go get his stuff, go get it, go get his dead,
Go get his dead sant Anita tickets. That's where he
keeps you. But I appreciate you calling. I know, it's
it's a a rough day. But I really appreciate man.
Thanks all right, thanks jay Leno a great guy and
you can tell it affected him, you know, I mean
even on a day like today, when if you knew
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Charlie Kirk and you knew his family, or you even
just knew of them. I've never met him, I've never
seen him in per but I just knew of him.
I knew what a great guy he was. And have
him shot like that and it's recorded and it's going
to be there forever. It's not good. It's not a
good day. I think Jay Lenod's right. It's an assassination
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attempt on free speech, really is. We come back, we'll
have a couple of things for you. We'll have the suspect,
we have some audio on that, and then I'm also
going to play for you Charlie Kirk's speech at the
twenty twenty four Republican National Convention, and that's a great
speech as well. So we get a lot more coming
up with Charlie Kirk. And I have a feeling that
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there's a thousand or ten thousand or one hundred thousand
kids out there on campus who want to be the
next Charlie Kirk, and they are going to fight to
try to be the top guy. And I think this
is going to spread like wildfire. I think there's going
to be a lot of guys out there doing exactly
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what Charlie Kirk was doing or trying to do that,
and it is going to spread. I think this is
going to have the exact opposite effect that that shooter wanted.
I think this movement of Charlie Kirk's is going to explode.
I think it's going to be huge. I think you
can see hundreds of millions of dollars pouring into his
company and a turning point USA and that becoming a
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very popular place to work, very popular platform to go watch.
And videos of Charlie Kirk are going to be viewed
hundreds and hundreds of millions, if not billions of times.
So people that never knew who he was before today
are going to be inundated with audio and video of
this guy. And I think that's the silver lining.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
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Speaker 2 (23:56):
We continue talking about the murder, the assassination the earlier
today of Charlie Kirk, and this is the latest on
the suspect. If you missed, it happened round twelve ten
pm Mountain time, so eleven ten I think our time.
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And here's the latest on the suspect who assassinated Charlie
Kirk today in Utah.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Tonight or on a college campus in Orum, Utah. Charlie Kirk,
one of the most prominent conservative activists in the country
with close ties to President Trump, shot and killed as
he addressed a crowd of hundreds the event billed as
the American Comeback Tour, A lively discussion of freedom and America,
Kirk revving them up.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
A lot of people Utah donaway.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Kirknn sitting on the stool talking to the crowd, and
just as he was answering a question about mass shootings
in America, a single shot rang out.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
In America over the last ten years? Is that bouncing
or not counting?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Gang finals group?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Kirk struck in the neck, the crowd running in terry
with this Sarah Trull attending the event in between her classes.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Just one shot straight and Charlie Kirk and that was it.
I was fifteen feet away and it was really hard
to witness.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
As the guy said, shooting or shooters or something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You just hear the gunshot and I'm sorry. You just
see his nay, just like open up and there's just
like so much blood that just came out. It was horrible.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Kirk rushed by a group of men to a waiting suv.
President Trump quickly posting his concern. We must all pray
for Charlie Kirk, who has been shot. A great guy
from top to bottom. God bless him. And from Vice
President JD. Vance, say a prayer for Charlie Kirk, a
genuinely good guy and a young father.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Law enforcement racing to the scene.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
May you and orm an active shooter at Charlie kirk event.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
We're giving several calls. We're trying to get more information.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Kirk, just thirty one years old, with the wife and
two young children, a force in the President's mega movement.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
He's done an amazing job. He's done something that is
just incredible for somebody really of his age. You need
tremendous talent to do what he's.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
Done, mobilizing young conservatives across the country with rallies on
college campuses. He hosted one of the nation's most popular
podcasts and was given a key speaking slot at last
year's Republican National Convention, where he talked about going to
colleges and engaging in debate.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I'm Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA and Turning
Point Action. I talked to a lot of young people
on campuses at our events, on my radio show, podcast
and social media. Said differently, I visit college campuses, so.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
You don't have to the controversial figure. Kirk said he
was no stranger to death threats.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
We get death threats all the time, you know, they come,
they send stuff to our homes and all that, and yeah,
that's just part for the course. I mean, if you
are not getting active death threats, you're not really doing
much for the country.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
And tonight, the President announcing that Kirk did not survive,
posting the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
No one understood or had the heart of the youth
in the United States better than Charlie. He was loved
and admired by all, especially me, and now he is
no longer with us. Milania and my sympathies go out
to his beautiful wife, Erica and family. Charlie, we love you,
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and just moments ago, David the governor of Utah calling
this a political assassination. They did say in that press
conference that they do have a person of interest in custody.
They are questioning that person right now. They said that shot,
they said was taken from a perch a rooftop from
a distance away, that suspect dressed in all dark clothes.
That school remains on lockdown. And David, we should note
(27:55):
that Charlie Kirk did travel with security.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
All right, when we come back, we have another press
conference that has that has already happened. Will replay that
plus Charlie Kirk's speech at the twenty twenty four Republican
National Convention, which was about a year ago. I think
it was July, late July of last year, so a
little about a year and a month and a half
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or so ago. And we'll have much more information. So
stay here on KFI. We'll get you as much information
as we can on this poor guy who was a
great father, a great husband, great friend, great leader, and
somebody who didn't agree with him and couldn't debate him
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am six and you're listening to the Conway Show
on demand on the iHeartRadio app. And what a horrible,
horrible day in America, one of the worst. Charlie Kirk
was shot and killed in you Tom, and I'm sure
you've heard the news, and now the videos are all
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coming out. I urge you, please please don't seek out
the video of him getting shot. I tried to avoid
it for four or five hours. I finally accidentally saw
it when searching for something else, and I wanted to
throw up. I almost passed out. It's it's gruesome, it's horrible.
(00:41):
Don't let your kids watch it. Try to avoid it.
Hopefully one day that video will disappear off of the Internet,
which may be very tough, and his kids won't have
to look at that. But it's it's it really is
a gut punch. It really you know, you drive around.
I was in Hemmet and I was driving back from
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Hemmett and I was at I was at a Ford
dealership in Hemmet and the guy who owns the place
I was walking around with him got named Tim Moran,
and one of his general managers came up and said,
did you hear that Charlie Kirk was shot and we
both knew who he was. And I said, oh my god,
(01:26):
what happened? And he said, it doesn't look good. And
that was around twelve fifteen or so, and I get
my car. I turned the radio on instantly. KFI had it.
When they went to commercial, I went to eleven fifty,
which was Sean Hannity. He was on live, and I
drove home from Hemmett numb. I wasn't speeding, I wasn't
(01:50):
going slow. I was driving in one lane. I wasn't
interested in changing lanes or going fast or going slow,
or talking on the phone or texting. I just sat
there in the car, going back from KFI to eleven fifty,
eleven fifty to KFI, back and forth, getting as much
information as I can. And then when I finally hit
the two ten freeway right at Baldwin at Sandia Avenue,
(02:17):
that's when Sean Hannity came on and read an email
or a truth social that Donald Trump put out and
said that Charlie Kirk has died, that he was murdered today,
and you could see other people on the road. We're
just numb, you know, if you knew who he was,
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you had a really strong reaction to that. If you
didn't know who he was, you quickly found out that
he's a father with two young kids. He was involved
in with Trump and the MAGA movement, and a great speaker,
going from one campus to another with a huge organization
in Arizona. And he was only thirty one years old.
(03:02):
This guy's owned this company, has run this Turning Point
since he was eighteen years old. One of the smartest guys,
one of the just the steady person in the United
States when everybody's crazy, never yelled at anybody. He went
from two people working at Turning Point fifty, you know,
thirteen years ago to now hundreds of people work for
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him and shot and killed because evidently, as far as
we know, and we're going to get more information, somebody
didn't like what he was saying. Somebody didn't like what
he said, and he was shot and killed in front
of all those kids. All those kids can be traumatized,
that witness that, all of them for the rest, maybe
(03:47):
for the rest of their life. His young kids, I
think he has a son and a daughter. They're going
to be on I know they're going to be on
They're going to be watching the internet forever and accidentally
running across that footage because their last name is Kirk,
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and twenty years from now they'll be putting their name
in and that Charlie Kirk video will come up. That's
what they have to look forward to their whole lives.
It's horrible, it's the worst. Let's talk to Alex Stone,
he's been on it with ABC News. Alex, where were
you when you heard it? Were you at Were you
at work?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Here here in the office. And did you know who
he was? I bet you did.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh, yeah, of course. And I mean immediately it was
pretty clear it was fatal from the videos coming in,
and they did rush him to a hospital, a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
We believe his security team.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
He did have a security team. That nothing they could
have done in that moment that they threw him into
a black suv and they took off to the hospital
and there was nothing that they could do at.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The hospital in that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
But it you know, you look at where the shooter was,
they now believe, and they confirmed a little while ago
on a rooftop dressed all in black. This was not
somebody in the crowd. Who had a disagreement with him
that got angry in the moment and pulled out, you know,
a handgun or something like that. This was a planned,
as the Governor of Utah put it, assassination, political assassination
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that clearly had some planning. But they do have somebody
in custody right now. The elderly man the in custody
earlier today is no longer suspected in this. They do
actually still have him on something else for obstruction of justice,
but not for this shooting itself.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So all day today they.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Have been searching for the shooter after they realize that
guy was not the shooter. And in the last little
while they have somebody who they think may have been
it's a person of interest and they're dealing with that
right now. But just listen to Governor Spencer Cox a
few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This is a dark day for our state. It's a
tragic day for our nation, and I want to be
very clear that this is a political assassination.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And tim the crowd there by those who were in
the crowd telling us that it was probably sixty to
seventy percent supporters of Kirk's and then the twenty thirty
forty percent who were opposing him and making noise but
doing what he wanted. This proved me wrong, tour to do,
getting the discussion going, and they were in the Q
and a portion of that talking about transgender issues. And
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then the one single shot which looks like it went
through the chest. Those who were there say the neck.
But it was a fatal shot with that one shot.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah. And you know, I've seen a lot of videos
of Charlie cook Kirk even before today, and I've seen
him get beat in some you know, in some debates,
and he's willing to admit it. I mean, he wasn't
the you know, a flawless guy and had to win
every debate. He got beat a couple of debates, and
he was, you know, and he honored the people that
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beat me. He says that very well read. It's a
good point. I'll think about it, and you know it
it it It screams of what this country is that now,
when we don't like what somebody's saying and we've run
out of ideas to oppose them, we have to shoot
him in the head.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, and we've seen it time and time again. I mean,
think of the shot at President Trump during the campaign
and that that one came very close to being fatal
as well, very close. So yeah, then he was going
to go on. This was kind of a part two
to his American comeback tour that he had done on
university campuses and the spring and the Turning Point USA
(07:29):
had put it on and that big crowd, So he
was going to go to other parts of Utah and
to Colorado and Minneapolis and Virginia, and they were expecting
big college crowds to come out and support them and
debate them. And he was invited by the local Utah
Valley University chapter of Turning Point USA in Orum and invited.
There had been throwing out MAGA hats and pumping up
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the crowd and then was sitting there in that chair
and then that one fire that shot fired.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
You know, I understand people being emotional over this. I
under stand people having no opinion whatsoever. They didn't know
who he was, and they're you know, they got complications
in their own life and they don't follow the news
pretty pretty very closely. And then I well, I don't understand.
I sort of like when people celebrate this, celebrate Charlie
(08:18):
Kirk's death because that tells you who they are. Yeah,
and I like to know that.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know, from both sides, it would
seem that this is not what Americans would want this
country to be and have political violence in this way.
That and you heard from the governor there a little
while ago saying, no matter where you come down on it,
this is not the way that that we handle situations.
And we don't know anything about this person. We don't
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if it's a man or a woman who's in custody
right now, if it turns out to be the shooter,
since they did have the wrong person in custody earlier today.
But what the background or the planning or any of
that's going to be. But it does not seem like
it was spur of the moment. Seems like that that
somebody knew he was coming to that campus and they
were ready and there was nothing. We heard today from
a lot of the attendees saying, well, we didn't even
(09:06):
go through security, They didn't check our bags, go through macintometers,
which yeah, they have a point, but it doesn't seem
like this person was in a crowd anyway, It wouldn't
have made any difference.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
YEA Bunny, I appreciate you coming on and we'll talk
to you better times you've got Thanks, Thanks all right.
Alex Stoe with ABC News. Alex referenced the shooter that
is was on the roof an hour or two is
a sound familiar like what happened Pennsylvania, maybe an hour
before the event began. And we have that video up
(09:36):
on our Twitter. So there's nothing violent about it. It's
just an observation of something's on that roof. It looks
like a guy with a gun an hour or an
hour and a half before that happened. And if you
want to go look at that again, there's nothing traumatic
about it. There's nobody getting shot. We're not going to
send that video out, go to Twitter. It's at Conways Show,
(09:56):
at Conway Show and numb. I think that's how most
people who knew of Charlie Kirk either knew him or
knew of him, maybe had seen him speak at a rally,
at a Trump rally, maybe you saw him debate students
from around you know, different college campuses throughout the United States.
(10:17):
Your numb, and that's the right feeling. You got the
right feeling. The people who are celebrating that's the wrong feeling.
But it's also nice to know that that is their
true feeling. And I again, I like when they express
it because now you know who they are. You know
who they are, and you'll always remember that. You'll file
(10:38):
that in your brain. Oh, Okay, that's the guy. That's
the gal who celebrated this man who has two his
beautiful wife and two small children. This person I work with,
celebrate that death. This person I go to school with,
celebrate that death. This first of my family, celebrate that death.
And you'll keep that in a roll of dex. And
you'll remember that for a long time, a long time,
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and you should, because that's not the right reaction to
what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
A six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We have an update on Charlie Cook Charlie Kirk. This
came out about twenty minutes or so ago. If you're
just tuning in and maybe you just got off an
airplane and your airplane didn't have live TV or any
kind of news. Charlie Kirk, who is a big progressive,
(11:31):
big conservative on campus, going from one college to another
talking to kids both liberal and conservative, was shot and
killed today in Utah and during what was supposed to
be a three hour event cut short, and we have
the audio. This is the audio of the event starting.
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And this is his last video that he ever put out.
This is not the video of him getting shot. I
don't recommend you look at that. I tried to avoid
it all day then accidentally saw it and wanted to
throw up. And it's not worth watching. You'll want to
remember Charlie Kirk the way you remembered him if you're
(12:15):
a fan, and not watch that video. But here's the
last post that Charlie Cook put up on social media
before being shot. At Utah Valley. He comes in. There's
probably about three or four, maybe five thousand kids there
on campus in this sort of I don't know, like
(12:37):
a half bowl amphitheater outdoor type place. And he comes
out and he has a shirt that says freedom on
it and he's throwing hats to everybody. And here's the
audio of it. That's a lot of people in Utah.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Tell you love.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
A beautiful day out in Utah probably you know, sixty
five seventy degrees sun was out very you know, barely
a cloud in the sky. That sort of Utah clean
fall air. All these kids very enthusiastic to see him.
Standing room only. The whole bowl was full, and there
are people standing on buildings surrounding this event. And if
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you want to see the suspicious guy on the on
top of one of these buildings, go to our Twitter.
We have that up there on our Twitter at Conway
Show and you can clearly see it. What looks like
a guy all dressed in all black and that's probably
where the gunshot came from. But this is Charlie Kirk's
last post today before he was shot and murdered.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
All right, we're gonna get started.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You know how it works, quash an answer. If you
think you a lame from why that was great, really
appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
And we're gonna be here for a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Get comfortable, bring the best lips that Utah has to off,
huge crowd, and then we'll cut it off before he
gets shot. There's no reason to play that, no reason
to see that. All right, here's an update on what
(14:49):
happened today and what we know. The new suspect is
in custody. We'll come back, we'll play this. There's a
suspect in custody and we'll have that audio for you
when we come back. It's Conway Show, very sad day,
a day you'll remember for a long time if you
were a Charlie Kirk fan. It is a gruesome day.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
What a hell of a guy, hell of a guy,
great dad, great wife. I know somebody who I'm a
friend with. A guy and his daughter works in Turning
for Turning Point USA. Said he was a spectacular boss,
one of the greatest guys you could ever work for
in the world. Never yelled at anybody, never never insult
(15:32):
at anybody, welcomed everybody, and just a great vibe in
the company in Turning Point, USA in Arizona. And now
that's all up in the air.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Jay Leno, who's a very good friend of ours, always
calls us up and always has some great jokes, but
is very serious when it comes time to reflect done
what's going on in America? And he called us during
the break and said, hey, I got some thoughts on this.
So Jay Leno, you're with us? Jay, where were you
when did you? Did you know who Charlie.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Kirk was did okay, you know to me, it's not
just it's not a random shooting. I mean it's a
death of free speech. I think that you are so
illiterate and so stupid you can't answer verbally and you
have to shoot somebody with a gun to quote win
the argument. You know, when I was in school, Lively
(16:34):
debate was unbelievable to have the SDS, the students of
Democratic Society debate somebody else. I can remember when James
Baldwin debated William F. Buckley at Oxford University. It was
just fascinating to here are two guys both way smarder
than I am, and I understood both their point of view.
(16:56):
It's just fascinating. I mean, it's just I mean, school shooting.
I don't understand those at all across those are so stupid.
But this is a political assassination of a man I
didn't necessarily agree with, but I certainly enjoyed listening to
because oh I didn't know that. Okay, and I don't
have to agree on everything. I mean, we're in a
point in this country where if you don't agree with
(17:18):
everybody and everything, you take out a gun and you
shoot them, and especially on a college campus. That's the
last time something like this happened. It got me. It
was Kent State, Oh yeah, during Vietnamium in the national
open fire on students.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
But you know, Jay, you have a good point. You know,
watching a good debate is like watching a boxing match
where you know, one guy gets a good job and
then the other guy does. And watching a great debate
is really entertaining. It should be for both sides.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, And a lot of times when you watch somebody
like chairlely Kirk, it might enforce your own beliefs more
or maybe it might change your mind, but at least
it gets you thinking he's just thinking about what's going on,
you know, I mean, it's really it's such an unbelievable right.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Let me ask you something. You know, because you ran
you know, the Tonight Show for a long period of time.
You know, you have your garage, You've got a lot
of people working for you. What happens when the main guy,
you know, the main pillar of a company like that
is no longer around, you think, turning point, it can
go one of two ways. Either, you know, they close
up shop and you know and uh and everyone goes home,
(18:31):
or it can get stronger over this, and I have
a feeling it's gonna be the latter. I think there's
gonna be a lot more money coming into this, and
a lot more people want to get involved. And I
think a lot of these kids are gonna go out
and try to become the next Charlie kirk and and
and go speak at at thousands of campuses.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, but that's what you know. Again, I'm not defending
or knocking anything that he says. It's just he's a
guy that's way more intelligent than me. They could out
debate me, and I could say of him, all right, okay,
you win. You I still think you're wrong, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
What I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
The idea that we can't do that anymore. The idea
is have to take out the gun and shoot the
other guy because you lost a stupid argument. And from
what I understand about this man, he was not a bully.
He was not someone who berated people. I mean, he
just made it a point and it was interesting. You know,
I enjoy listening to the other side because that's how
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that's how I get smarter. If somebody agrees with me
all the time. You know, when I tonight. I used
to tell everybody on the show, including the janitors and
the interns, you can pull a cord and stop the
train at anytime if if you hear something you think's
stupid or not funny or whatever, give me, give me
a reason why. And did it make for a longer day. Yeah,
(19:49):
we had a lot of We had a lot of
really loyal people after that because they felt they were
part of the program. You know, we live in a.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
World now where everybody feels like such an outsider for
every sing season, and it's just it's very unsettling. This
one really struck me. Yeah, me too, anytime Somas s sassinated.
But it's really the death of free speech. Yeah, the
idea that, oh I don't want to go to a
campus in Utah. I mean we're not talking about how
(20:17):
the Kegs of Insurrection New York City, I mean in
the beautiful state of Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I mean, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Certainly a black eye for Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
You're right, man, Yeah, well, I mean it's I'm sure
the person probably wasn't even from Utah, but.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I know, but look, I mean everybody remembers, you know,
the Ford Theater, you know, I mean, everybody remembers, you know, Dallas,
and you know with Kennedy, you remember the you know,
the the city and the place and the facility that
happens that people just do well.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
The really sad part is we've got so many of
those now you can't remember them all.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I know, it's horrible.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
When I was a kid, the most shocking crime was
Richard Speck killing eight nurses. That that that was a
shooge stars for ten years. And then he just got
crazy and crimes got worse, and you.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Know, yeah, I'm with him. Man. Look, I grew up
in the you know, the San Fernando Valley, where nobody
had an alarm system, and I remember countless nights that
my mom and dad would you know, if the if
if it was cool outside, they'd leave the door open
and just the screen door shut and never thought of
anybody coming to the house.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Never I remember robbing your house. Once I knew that,
I said, father, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Go get his stuff, go get it, go get his dead,
Go get his dead sant Anita tickets. That's where he
keeps you. But I appreciate you calling. I know, it's
it's a a rough day. But I really appreciate man.
Thanks all right, thanks jay Leno a great guy and
you can tell it affected him, you know, I mean
even on a day like today, when if you knew
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Charlie Kirk and you knew his family, or you even
just knew of them. I've never met him, I've never
seen him in per but I just knew of him.
I knew what a great guy he was. And have
him shot like that and it's recorded and it's going
to be there forever. It's not good. It's not a
good day. I think Jay Lenod's right. It's an assassination
(22:16):
attempt on free speech, really is. We come back, we'll
have a couple of things for you. We'll have the suspect,
we have some audio on that, and then I'm also
going to play for you Charlie Kirk's speech at the
twenty twenty four Republican National Convention, and that's a great
speech as well. So we get a lot more coming
up with Charlie Kirk. And I have a feeling that
(22:40):
there's a thousand or ten thousand or one hundred thousand
kids out there on campus who want to be the
next Charlie Kirk, and they are going to fight to
try to be the top guy. And I think this
is going to spread like wildfire. I think there's going
to be a lot of guys out there doing exactly
(23:02):
what Charlie Kirk was doing or trying to do that,
and it is going to spread. I think this is
going to have the exact opposite effect that that shooter wanted.
I think this movement of Charlie Kirk's is going to explode.
I think it's going to be huge. I think you
can see hundreds of millions of dollars pouring into his
company and a turning point USA and that becoming a
(23:27):
very popular place to work, very popular platform to go watch.
And videos of Charlie Kirk are going to be viewed
hundreds and hundreds of millions, if not billions of times.
So people that never knew who he was before today
are going to be inundated with audio and video of
this guy. And I think that's the silver lining.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on Demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
We continue talking about the murder, the assassination the earlier
today of Charlie Kirk, and this is the latest on
the suspect. If you missed, it happened round twelve ten
pm Mountain time, so eleven ten I think our time.
(24:16):
And here's the latest on the suspect who assassinated Charlie
Kirk today in Utah.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Tonight or on a college campus in Orum, Utah. Charlie Kirk,
one of the most prominent conservative activists in the country
with close ties to President Trump, shot and killed as
he addressed a crowd of hundreds the event billed as
the American Comeback Tour, A lively discussion of freedom and America,
Kirk revving them up.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
A lot of people Utah donaway.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Kirknn sitting on the stool talking to the crowd, and
just as he was answering a question about mass shootings
in America, a single shot rang out.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
In America over the last ten years? Is that bouncing
or not counting?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Gang finals group?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Kirk struck in the neck, the crowd running in terry
with this Sarah Trull attending the event in between her classes.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Just one shot straight and Charlie Kirk and that was it.
I was fifteen feet away and it was really hard
to witness.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
As the guy said, shooting or shooters or something like that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You just hear the gunshot and I'm sorry. You just
see his nay, just like open up and there's just
like so much blood that just came out. It was horrible.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Kirk rushed by a group of men to a waiting suv.
President Trump quickly posting his concern. We must all pray
for Charlie Kirk, who has been shot. A great guy
from top to bottom. God bless him. And from Vice
President JD. Vance, say a prayer for Charlie Kirk, a
genuinely good guy and a young father.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Law enforcement racing to the scene.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
May you and orm an active shooter at Charlie kirk event.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
We're giving several calls. We're trying to get more information.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Kirk, just thirty one years old, with the wife and
two young children, a force in the President's mega movement.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
He's done an amazing job. He's done something that is
just incredible for somebody really of his age. You need
tremendous talent to do what he's.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
Done, mobilizing young conservatives across the country with rallies on
college campuses. He hosted one of the nation's most popular
podcasts and was given a key speaking slot at last
year's Republican National Convention, where he talked about going to
colleges and engaging in debate.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I'm Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA and Turning
Point Action. I talked to a lot of young people
on campuses at our events, on my radio show, podcast
and social media. Said differently, I visit college campuses, so.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
You don't have to the controversial figure. Kirk said he
was no stranger to death threats.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
We get death threats all the time, you know, they come,
they send stuff to our homes and all that, and yeah,
that's just part for the course. I mean, if you
are not getting active death threats, you're not really doing
much for the country.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
And tonight, the President announcing that Kirk did not survive,
posting the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead.
No one understood or had the heart of the youth
in the United States better than Charlie. He was loved
and admired by all, especially me, and now he is
no longer with us. Milania and my sympathies go out
to his beautiful wife, Erica and family. Charlie, we love you,
(27:34):
and just moments ago, David the governor of Utah calling
this a political assassination. They did say in that press
conference that they do have a person of interest in custody.
They are questioning that person right now. They said that shot,
they said was taken from a perch a rooftop from
a distance away, that suspect dressed in all dark clothes.
That school remains on lockdown. And David, we should note
(27:55):
that Charlie Kirk did travel with security.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
All right, when we come back, we have another press
conference that has that has already happened. Will replay that
plus Charlie Kirk's speech at the twenty twenty four Republican
National Convention, which was about a year ago. I think
it was July, late July of last year, so a
little about a year and a month and a half
(28:21):
or so ago. And we'll have much more information. So
stay here on KFI. We'll get you as much information
as we can on this poor guy who was a
great father, a great husband, great friend, great leader, and
somebody who didn't agree with him and couldn't debate him
(28:42):
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