August 20, 2025 • 31 mins
Veterinarian Dr. Jeff Werber joined to help pet owners deal with summer heat, allergies, constant licking and itching—and even explained whether those controversial anti-bark devices actually cause headaches. Dr. Werber shared details on his Pet Life Radio show and gave advice on navigating skyrocketing vet prices as corporate chains buy up 40% of hospitals. Later, beloved TikTok-famous Judge Frank Caprio passed away at 88 after battling pancreatic cancer. Jillian Michaels fired back at Netflix’s Biggest Loser docuseries.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's KFI Am sixty and you're listening to The Conway
Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Tim Conway Junior Show. Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim.
Heat wave underway through Saturday. There's a little break on Sunday.
It doesn't break in a dramatic way, but it a
get a little cooler on Sunday. They say, is the
doctor on the line here? We have okay cool I
mentioned this yesterday. I mean with the heat and a
lot of concerns about pets. Just generally when you bring
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up your pets, you get a whole ton of feedback
about different treatments and now that there's supplements and how
do they do in this kind of heat and an
allergy season, and are these allergies worse than normalcy? And
I sai, Well, let's get let's get a real vet
on the air. And we have just that guy. You
may know him from social media. He has a pretty
big following. He's got a really great kind of connection
(00:54):
to the community through social media.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Doctor Jeff Werber. Hello, sir, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, really really cool to have you. I've known Jeff
for a long time. We've just kind of gotten reconnected
as he was advising me on my darling Frenchie, who
sadly didn't make it, but with Jeff's council, actually was
one of the most sober sided bits of counseling that
we got.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Again, but I wanted to kind of get into some
of the questions that the audience has and also these
questions that are coming up. First of all, the heat,
I mean, the heat is a tremendous stressor on all
of us, and animals quite particularly.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I would think, oh absolutely. I mean when it gets
hot like this and we're having this heat wave right now,
you know, animals need a few things. Number One, they
need to be protected from any shade. They need plenty
of fresh water in some sort of tip proof bowl
because dogs love to play with water bowls and tip
them over if it gets two human forces that we
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don't have a lot of humidity here, but there's a
rule that if the temperature and fahrenheit plus the percent
humidity is greater than one hundred and fifty, that is
too hot for dogs. So you know, as a gauge,
that's a smart thing to do. Of course, as far
as asphalt, you know, there's a lot of black asphalt
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here in Los Angeles. If you put your hand on
the asphalt, if you can hold it there for seven
seconds or less, that's okay. If you cannot hold it
there for longer than seven seconds, that's too hot for
your dog's feet as well. So these are little things
to keep in mind. And you know, again, if you
can keep them inside with of course air conditioning or fan,
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good ventilation, then that's what needs. And of course, Mark,
I do not have to say this, never leave your
dog in a parked car. I don't care for how
long windows open in the shade. It gets really hot
in those cars.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, you know, it's funny in the I'm glad you
mentioned the walking because I see people out for their
dog with their dog for a walk. And some times
it's a borderline day, you know, it's not like this
is clearly a heat wave we're enduring, but sometimes it's
a borderline day. And so that rule that you just
mentioned is kind of helpful. It's really easy to lose
track of how hot that asphalt gets. It's really an issue.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Oh, absolutely, even and just keep in mind that even
in the evening when the sun is sort of going down,
some of those asphalts retain the heat for several hours afterwards.
So again you want to test the asphalt, be careful.
If you won't walk on the barefoot, your dogs should
be walking on it. I mean that is a basic
rule of thumb. And they say also in temperatures eighty
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five degrees or more, this should be like about a
four hour consecutive four hour limit beyond which dogs should
not be allowed outside.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Sharon, you had a question for the good doctor.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I have two questions for the good doctor. First question
is about allergies. Just with my dogs. It seems like
this season the allergies were a little out of control,
a lot of chewing their pause. Is there other than
taking like the apoquel or the other allergy medicines side
of point, yeah, because if my dogs did not do
well on those shots, is there something else that can be.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Done for you know, the pod chewing and allergies.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, you know interesting, when there's paw chewing, you have
to think of a couple of things. And if it's
seasonal paw chewing, it's probably related to the allergies. But
if it's year round. You want to think food allergies.
Even though only about fifteen to twenty percent of dogs
have food allergy, the prime symptom are going to be
foottooing rubbing or licking or scratching at the ears and
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face rubbing. So if a dog is doing those things
at least you need to put on your list of
possibilities food allergies. As far as the allergiesens themselves, obviously
you're not going to put them in a plastic bubble.
The allergy that usually seem to work. If you have to,
you got to make up to go back to the
old steroids like pregnant zone should we used to use
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before apple quil before side of point. As long as
they you judiciously and safely, they can be effective as
well as a TOPAKA, which is cyclosporin, another imbnomodulator. So
if we can suppress the immune response right to these allergens,
then the pests should do better. So I would say
it gets really bad, you might want to consider seeing
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a board certified binary dermatologist, but typically the side of
points the apple clothes. It could happen. One last thing, fleas,
don't forget about the fleas because they cause a lot
of allergens, and if a dog has signs of allergy
and is doing an excessive licking and chewing, they might
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also be getting secondary bacterial infection, which of course is
also itchy, so its share as well.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
And the other question I had for you is, I'm
seeing all over social media there's this thing called anti
dog barking, and it emits this sound that only the
dogs can hear. There's a lot of controversy that says
it could give the dog headaches and it's bad for
the dog.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
What's your your opinion on that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I mean, certainly their their their ability to hear sounds
that we don't hear is very great. To talk to
a dog who starts acting weird about a week before
July fourth, they're they're they're hearing these things, the fireworks
going from miles and miles away that you're not hearing
as far as you know. When you get these very
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very low sounds or that are barely audible for us,
you know, it's hard to tell because first of all,
it's hard to tell with the dog has a headache,
they're not going to tell you. Yeah, And so you
hear all these these opinions, these empirical data that may
may not be real. I the I know, the the humaniacs,
these humane groups seemed to like some of those non
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painful no sharks, I mean bark collars, no shocking, and
I kind of agree. So whether or not it hurts them,
I don't know. I have not been able to get
a straight answer from any dog I've asked, Thank.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
You so much.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Here is a question from a listener Tony. He says,
I have nine year old chocolate lab but sprained orneath
five years ago, now has stiffness arthritis. Only eats Costco
dog food, which contains glucosamine and controyten. I'm also giving
her sinflex as a supplement. He wants to know Tony
does about Lobrella treatments, and he's concerned about side effects.
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Are you familiar with this supplement Lobrella?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I am very a something. It's actually an injection.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I see it's good for a month.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
All right. There is a lot of controversy which happens
with any new medication that you hear all these stories
coming out of the woodwork. There was a story that
I heard about with two days after the dog received
a Slabrella shot it's rop dead. Of course, the Zoetis,
which is a company that makes it, was very concerned.
They sent it to an independent pathology lab who did
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a post ornament exam on the dog. Turns out the
dogs had a splenic tumor that ruptured and the dogs
to do with Librella. Coincidental, yes, causal no. So I
have you know, I've read a lot of the information.
You know, think about this. Mark watch a commercial on
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TV about a new drug and they throw out, what
a beautiful commercial, and everybody's playing and having fun and
throwing the ball around and running the water at the beach,
and at the very end it starts to giving the
side effects and could cause death. So sign me up
for that one right away. I mean. So what's happening
is that the FDA has to report every untoward event,
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whether it had anything to do with the drug or not.
So we're seeing a lot of this. I did speak
to Duetis and they have tested this medication has been
used in Europe over a million doses and the the
negative reaction rate is roughly so that's not bad when
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you think about it. So I have used personally on
my patients probably two hundred doses, and I have only
one dog that didn't have a terrible reaction, but did
get a little sore and vomited afterward by it. By
the way, it was also after their fourth ejection I see.
So that means they went through one to three with
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no problem and four may not have been related. It
could have dogs would have eaten something that day. So
something you want to talk to your veterinarian, do your
homework online, but I would pay it. From my experience,
it has been a really good drug. In fact, so
good that people are literally lining up a month later
to get their next shot.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wow, Doctor Jeff Weerber, veterinarian to the stars. Hey, by
the way, doctor Jeff vetter, I'm going to ask you
a quote. Would you stay with us for a little
bit of the next segment. I kind of have a
big question to ask you about also from a listener,
and I would love.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
To if I can, absolutely love to mark that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Doctor Jeff Werber. You can follow him on social media.
He's were on Instagram. Verbs w E RBS underscore DVM.
I think it stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, verbs
underscore d VM doctor Jeff Werber.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
We continue you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM six.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Forty Conway back on Monday. I did want to mention
because the IR radio app we are talking to doctor
Jeff Werber, who is the brilliant veterinarian. He works right
here in Los Angeles, I think Santa Monica, but he
has a show on iHeart Radio. Yeah it's uh Sunday,
I think it's Sunday the online radio show. It's called
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pet Life Radio, I believe, isn't that right, Jeff right?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Pet Life Radio. It's an iHeart radio station. We're on
every Sunday morning and I simulcast it with Instagram live
and it's from nine to nine thirty. So I'm on
the I'm on the visit the visual. The visual is
on iHeart Radio and you can also see me on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, no, I love it. I'm chuckling because I really
think you do that really well. So I've seen you
doing your Instagram stuff in it's nine to nine thirty
on the Sunday mornings. So you know, I mentioned I've
had stuff from listeners and this is sort of a
big picture question about veterinary medicine, and I wanted to
ask you about it. This person writes that she'd been
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seeing the most wonderful veterinarian ever. When the large veterinary
practice she worked for was bought out by a big corporation,
she quit. She told me this I'm reading from the email.
They would not let her provide the care that she
felt was proper and she was ultra competent and thorough.
I have tried to locate her via the state veterinary
Licensing Department. I haven't been able to find her. My
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biggest bills for the past few years, this person writes,
are for cat care one of my cats, which, while
he is a family member and loved a million, does
incur big bills. My question is that it seems it's
a somewhat recent trend for big corporations to buy small
and large veta ordinary practices. My research shows that now
often vets whom I greatly value, are paid by the
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corporation as a salary plus a percentage of the revenue
they bring in, which I feel compromises the care of
my cats. What options do pet parents have to get
better care for their pets and pay more reasonable prices,
and then she goes on, I understand veterinary practices are expensive,
how do I find a cat care that's more confident?
So this is a longer email, but it does address
sort of what are oftentimes withering costs when it comes
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to taking care of cats, in this case cats or dogs.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So, first of all, she is very astute, and it's
all true about now. Forty percent of hospitals are taken
over by large corporations. VCA, for example, believe it or not,
is owned by a larger company known as Mars. Now,
if you think of Mars other than the planet, you're
thinking of Eminem's and Snickers. Well, yes, what chocolk bar
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right Cars is the largest, the largest provider of pet
care in the world, the largest provider of pets food
in the world, and still only known for their candy.
They are a privately held business and guess what most
privately held venture capital private equity businesses care about more
than anything profit. So what she I sold to BCA
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as well, and I did very well on the sale.
But I said the same thing I actually put in
my contract that I am to perform the way I
did prior to the acquisition, and guess what. So I
feel for her that both the women who wrote the
letter and her doctor, because I created so much hell
with them, fighting and fighting about the way I want
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to practice and the care I want to provide and
the fair pricing I want to offer, And after going nowhere,
they fired me because I just raised too much help. Wow,
I moved my practice. So I moved my practice to
Westwood to a small little practice owned by two veterans
who non veterinarians actually, and my clients all followed me.
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So what's happening is, first of all, it is big business,
a lot of it owned by corporations, and they care
about the money. It is very hard to get doctors
to work because there's also a shift in work ethic.
For me, what was a full time job when I
started practicing forty two years ago, it was it was
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sixty hours a week. Now it's about fifty hours a week.
I'm still working five days a week right, and now
the average graduate is working about thirty hours a week.
So there's a shortage of veterinarians. There are more numbers
of veterinarians, but work hours are depressed. People don't want
to work at hospitals they want to work relief. So
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the cost of operating a veteran hospital has gone up
because they're trying to attract veterinarians. And as she wrote
in a letter, that's what's happening. They are getting paid
so much, and who actually, when you think about it,
is paying those salaries you the pet parent. And costs
have gone up, Costs of supplies have gone up, Laboratory
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costs have gone up tremendously in the last few years.
So I get it. To run a business and to
make it work, their pricing has gone through the roof,
very frustrating, and therefore what I'm getting, what I'm seeing
is people aren't getting the care they need for their
pets because they can't afford it. And right now there
are really very few alternatives. So you want to look
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for and answer the question still, look for a private practice,
a mom and pop practice where the people are becoming
are coming not because the fees, not the costs, They're
coming because of the relationships and the trust factor. I
have a saying when I lecture, clients don't care how
much you know until they know how much you care.
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So if you find that veterinarian that really does care
about your pet and put money secondary. That's the kind
of person you want to find. They're out there. I'm
one of them. We're out there.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, but you have to hunt.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But you to hunt. Yeah, we are dinosaurs one hundred percent.
That old Marcus will be kind of family. Is. I
had a client commit for one of these other corporate hospitals.
They were there six visits and saw five different veterinarians.
How do you build a relationship. That's like if I
ask a mom, who's your pediatrician, they will answer in
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a heartbeat. They know exactly who it is, who's your dentist,
They know exactly who it is, who's your veterinarian. Oh,
I don't know. I go to this this sole place,
I see a different one all the time. That's I
don't I do understand it. But that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, it's sad, that's really I appreciate that was a
really thorough response, and I appreciate the fact that there's
still some outlets. But you really have to hunt for
people like yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Absolutely, it's it is. It's frightening. And I look at
I mean Mark, I had a case last week one
of the big conglomerates, right caught. They quoted for a
surgery of a dog ate a sock. I don't know
a little stuff. Teddy bear really what it was, and
he thought it was a sock. They quoted him fourteen
thousand dollars. Yeah, how do you afford that? That's that's crazy. Yeah,
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well we thought it. We did it for less than
half that I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Great, that's great to hear.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, here's the problem and having just just lived
through I got to wrap up. But having just lived
through it, and you knew it because you described this.
I mean even in our conversation, I was just kind
of seeking counsel on you know, objective veterinary opinions. You know,
you're so you feel compelled to do something. You feel like,
that's what I need to do. You're telling me this
surgery could save my sweetheart's life, my little creature's life.
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I'll do it, and I'll borrow the money and I'll
worry about it later and I'll you know, and that
urgency and emotion is is informing a lot of that moment,
right yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
And you know again, we started my son and I
run a telemedicine platform as well, because I would tell
you this is frightening for most people to hear. Ninety
percent of quote unquote emergencies aren't. But at two in
the morning, who do you call? Your your own hospital
sends you to emergency clinic. Sure, so what you're stuck?
And so if you should all check out some sort
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of telemedicine platform and use it because that will save
you thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right on pat Life Radio, Jeff is there, the good doctor,
doctor Jeff Werber. You can find him on Sundays simulcast
on Instagram as well. His Instagram handle is erbs w
Erbs Underscore DVM and doctor Jeff Werber is is just
a great part of the veterinary scene that gets harder
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and harder every year to find greatness in I mean
it is. It's witheringly expensive. It's really hard to get
good care and I apply for You can call yourself
a dinosaur, but you're a shining light in all this.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
We are I think that how long we've gone back?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I'll see you at the Dinosaur meeting. Great to
talk to you, doctor Jeff Werber. All the best, my friend,
Thank you and Mark, thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
So much for having me and you know, people can
always recently have questions. I love helping people with their pets.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Awesome. Yeah again.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You can reach out to him on Instagram at minimum
Verbs Underscore DVM.
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Everyone at Conways Shows how you find I'm at Mark
Thompson TV. And it was Tim Conway Junior who said
to me after the I want to say maybe eighteen
months since I'd left Fox eleven.
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He said, hey, you can drop the TV, can't you?
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What he said that.
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
The judge who has become famous on social media, Frank Caprio.
He is a municipal judge. And the reason you will
know him, I'm guessing, is because he's.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The guy who.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
He evaluates everybody's case in such a way that almost
feels like, you know, it's a warm hearted grandfather or
uncle listening to the reason you're there for a speeding.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Ticket, for whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He really carved out this sort of space in the
judicial system that we don't usually find. You know, the
judicial system can be pretty cold place, and this guy, Frankcaprio,
was quite different. He just passed away at age eighty eight,
is why we're talking about him. And he had a
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show called Caught in Providence that ran between twenty eighteen
and twenty twenty, got a lot of daytime Emmy Award nominations,
and he was a beloved figure, this judge, and as
I say, he carved out a special spot in this
world of justice that seldom has a spot for anybody
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in particular.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
One thing you can't fake is a smile. She had
a genuine one.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Honestly, the courtroom community is mourning a daytime TV icon
Caprio has died at eighty eight years old, following what
his Instagram tribute calls a long and courageous battle with
pinkreotic cancer.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Keep up your good work, get some good grades, go
on and graduate.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Make us proud.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Thank you, Good luck to you.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You've done a good job with your son.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Caprio found fame at the tail end of a lengthy
legal system tenure, with TV cameras capturing his soft touch
approach in the courtroom, earning in the nickname Nicest Judge
in the World.
Speaker 11 (22:38):
So, even though you are responsible for that, I'm going
to take a big burden off your head.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, I'm going to dismiss those tickets. Even though they've
in your own name, you are really.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Responsible for them, and I'm exercising my judicial discretion.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'm going to dismiss them. Thank you so much, So
that's not hanging over your head, okay.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Caprio's online tribute requested fans honor his memory by striving
to bring a little more compassion into the world, just
as he did every day.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's really sweet, Judge Frank Caprio passing away at age
eighty eight, and I hope that when I'm passing away
that there can be some.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
AI generated voice like that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
With music behind it to memorialize my passing.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It was quite moving.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
How could they take Frank Caprio, He's a beloved figure
and put some AI voice on it with some music
behind it.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
That's all I can find.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's not your fault, that's right. It's not your fault.
It's society's fault. Gosh, he really was sweet. Most of
his stuff is just so touching, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Oh, yeah, it makes you.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Cry, exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
He'd bring kids up.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, he'd bring kids up to the bench. Yeah, exactly right. Wow,
what a bad break. I mean, I know that's a
long life eighty eight, but man, pancreatic cancer can be
tough that advanced age.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Anyway, Frank Caprio, the judge, quite famous in the world
of TikTok and Instagram and social media and certainly in
his world in Rhode Island, passes away. It is The
Conway Show as we continue what to know about ESPN's
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and United may be named in the same suit. We'll
fill you in on all of that as we continue.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
You're listening to Tim conwaytun you're on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (24:42):
Just spend a few minutes talking to Sharon Bellio, who
rushed in here. We're content oriented, and the conversation to
kind of make this show build out in continued ways,
each segment building on the segment prior. And then we
got into a digression, and then she left without giving
me the MATERI reals I needed for this next segment.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Okay, I'll set it up, all right.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Jillian Michaels pushes back on claims made against her in
Netflix's Biggest Loser docuseries.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
How's that very well done? All right, here's a here's more.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Honestly, it's just filled with so many lies, practical knowledge
of medicine.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Did people in large numbers see this because I heard
this is really good, this docuseries that I guess Jillian
Michaels wasn't too crazy about. What do they well, I guess,
let's listen. I think they allege a lot of stuff,
and she's not happy about it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Filled with so many lies, practical knowledge of medicine, people
will do a lot of things to win.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
It's just filled with so many lies.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Who edited this? Does it? Does it go past this?
Or is this just age?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
No, she'd go back for all of us.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is going to be good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's so we don't listen to these things ahead of time,
so that we know that there's this lad that the kids.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Going over over again.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Mark Jillians had no practical knowledge of medicine.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
People will do a lot of things to win. Please please?
Speaker 12 (26:14):
What two words for Gillian's reaction to the doc Scorched Earth.
She's lawyered up, hiring the attorney Justin Baldoni is using
and it ends with us lawsuit. Brian Friedman telling TMZ
she's taking aim at Netflix, former friend Bob Harper and
doctor Robert Heisinger, and she's bringing receipts.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Do we pursue this legally?
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Do I just do a data dom At no point
was caffeine banned from the show.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Jillian claims this email with Bob and doctor Heizinger's assistant
shows they were aware caffeine pills would be distributed to contestants,
which they denied in the doc.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And with E t oh, that's interesting. And the caffeine
pills are designed to raise your metabolism and make you
sort of less hungry.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's the idea.
Speaker 12 (27:01):
Okay, her contestants were using the caffeine pills.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
You had no idea that that was going on.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
No, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
No caffeine pills were allowed.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
As for this claim, they said, Ryan, there's blood in
your urine, which is obviously means you're so dehydrated. She
gives me a big hug and she says, Ryan, you
just made me a millionaire.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Sounds like Jillian Michaels. Jullian, sheared, And I don't get
that he explain that to me.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Doesn't she get like incentives, like because she trains some
of them and if they lose a certain amount of weight?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, I see, okay, i'd seen perhaps heard. I can't
remember if I saw it on traider or heard that.
Some of that which they asked contestants to do, even
to qualify to be on Biggest Loser, was, you know,
cause them to pass out. One had to be like
metavacked out? Am I right about this? Did you hear
(27:56):
about this?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Sharon?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It was like there there's a there was a major
there's some major controversies.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Within the show.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, yeah, there had been incidents like that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, exactly, sounds like Jillian Michaels.
Speaker 12 (28:07):
Jillian shared an alleged text message with the show's producers,
stating they were both micd and quote. No one is
aware of any recording capturing such a comment. But what
about Jillian and Bob's falling out.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
After I had my heart attack?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Uh, she's the one person I never heard from. I'd
talked to her in many, many years. Oh well, so
you guys have not spoken in years?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
How long?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
I mean, it's been, god more than more than ten years,
I guess.
Speaker 12 (28:33):
Jillian shared one of their last text exchange.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Now he is another trainer on the show, right, Yes, okay,
just wanted to make sure I got show. And he
went on after that show to do other reality shows.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Yeah, he's done a few of them.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (28:46):
Jillian shared one of their last text exchanges, claiming he
was the one who stopped replying to her.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
That's all I can tell you is it's always been
like this. He'll be saying negative things about me, and
it was a very long and complex relationship. I can't
even really honestly tell you why all I can do
is show you like, look at the documentary and that
is what I lived with the entire time.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Just do it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Just stop talking and do it.
Speaker 12 (29:12):
There has been no comment from Netflix.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Wow, that's on the Biggest Loser. Her yelling like that.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Oh yeah, there was a lot of that, wasn't it.
I remember seeing clips like that. Gosh, that's really tough, man.
I don't know. That's a I'm glad I didn't watch this.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Sure, stop talking and do it.
Speaker 12 (29:26):
There has been no comment from Netflix, Bob or doctor
Heizinga about Gillian's claims, but America sure seems to be
hungry for the drama fit for TV. The Reality of
The Biggest Loser is currently number two on Netflix's talk
TV shows.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Do you have a message for her if she happens
to see this? How fun watching it? Wow?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It sounds like this is a real mess, you would think,
and this is typically the way it goes that when
a documentary like this which alleges all of these controversial
things about Biggest Loser in the way they.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Handled it, that when you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But when you're about to put that out, it's dry
cleaned by lawyers. I mean, they're really strict legal hoops
you got to go through.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
I remember one of the things I always bugged me
about the show is that they would they would weigh
them at various points, obviously, but it would be based
on the percentage of weight lost as opposed to the
percentage of fat lost.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So it could be they could have.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Lost you know, muscle weight, waterweight, any of that sort
of stuff. It's to be I always found a little
bit disingenuous.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, you're right, You're right. I mean I would think
that though, like they have those what are they called
pills to yeah, like water pills right directs. That's exactly
what I want to do.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
The days of Matthew Modine and Vision Quest where he
sat in the back of a bus and just sit
there and spit water out until he got to the
weight he needed to be at.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's just yeah, anyway, I guess this is uh, this
is just heating up this legal battle. We'll see ESPN
making changes. We'll tell you about them next.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
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Tim Conway Junior Show. Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim.
Heat wave underway through Saturday. There's a little break on Sunday.
It doesn't break in a dramatic way, but it a
get a little cooler on Sunday. They say, is the
doctor on the line here? We have okay cool I
mentioned this yesterday. I mean with the heat and a
lot of concerns about pets. Just generally when you bring
(00:30):
up your pets, you get a whole ton of feedback
about different treatments and now that there's supplements and how
do they do in this kind of heat and an
allergy season, and are these allergies worse than normalcy? And
I sai, Well, let's get let's get a real vet
on the air. And we have just that guy. You
may know him from social media. He has a pretty
big following. He's got a really great kind of connection
(00:54):
to the community through social media.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Doctor Jeff Werber. Hello, sir, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, really really cool to have you. I've known Jeff
for a long time. We've just kind of gotten reconnected
as he was advising me on my darling Frenchie, who
sadly didn't make it, but with Jeff's council, actually was
one of the most sober sided bits of counseling that
we got.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Again, but I wanted to kind of get into some
of the questions that the audience has and also these
questions that are coming up. First of all, the heat,
I mean, the heat is a tremendous stressor on all
of us, and animals quite particularly.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I would think, oh absolutely. I mean when it gets
hot like this and we're having this heat wave right now,
you know, animals need a few things. Number One, they
need to be protected from any shade. They need plenty
of fresh water in some sort of tip proof bowl
because dogs love to play with water bowls and tip
them over if it gets two human forces that we
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don't have a lot of humidity here, but there's a
rule that if the temperature and fahrenheit plus the percent
humidity is greater than one hundred and fifty, that is
too hot for dogs. So you know, as a gauge,
that's a smart thing to do. Of course, as far
as asphalt, you know, there's a lot of black asphalt
(02:15):
here in Los Angeles. If you put your hand on
the asphalt, if you can hold it there for seven
seconds or less, that's okay. If you cannot hold it
there for longer than seven seconds, that's too hot for
your dog's feet as well. So these are little things
to keep in mind. And you know, again, if you
can keep them inside with of course air conditioning or fan,
(02:37):
good ventilation, then that's what needs. And of course, Mark,
I do not have to say this, never leave your
dog in a parked car. I don't care for how
long windows open in the shade. It gets really hot
in those cars.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, you know, it's funny in the I'm glad you
mentioned the walking because I see people out for their
dog with their dog for a walk. And some times
it's a borderline day, you know, it's not like this
is clearly a heat wave we're enduring, but sometimes it's
a borderline day. And so that rule that you just
mentioned is kind of helpful. It's really easy to lose
track of how hot that asphalt gets. It's really an issue.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Oh, absolutely, even and just keep in mind that even
in the evening when the sun is sort of going down,
some of those asphalts retain the heat for several hours afterwards.
So again you want to test the asphalt, be careful.
If you won't walk on the barefoot, your dogs should
be walking on it. I mean that is a basic
rule of thumb. And they say also in temperatures eighty
(03:33):
five degrees or more, this should be like about a
four hour consecutive four hour limit beyond which dogs should
not be allowed outside.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Sharon, you had a question for the good doctor.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I have two questions for the good doctor. First question
is about allergies. Just with my dogs. It seems like
this season the allergies were a little out of control,
a lot of chewing their pause. Is there other than
taking like the apoquel or the other allergy medicines side
of point, yeah, because if my dogs did not do
well on those shots, is there something else that can be.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Done for you know, the pod chewing and allergies.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, you know interesting, when there's paw chewing, you have
to think of a couple of things. And if it's
seasonal paw chewing, it's probably related to the allergies. But
if it's year round. You want to think food allergies.
Even though only about fifteen to twenty percent of dogs
have food allergy, the prime symptom are going to be
foottooing rubbing or licking or scratching at the ears and
(04:33):
face rubbing. So if a dog is doing those things
at least you need to put on your list of
possibilities food allergies. As far as the allergiesens themselves, obviously
you're not going to put them in a plastic bubble.
The allergy that usually seem to work. If you have to,
you got to make up to go back to the
old steroids like pregnant zone should we used to use
(04:57):
before apple quil before side of point. As long as
they you judiciously and safely, they can be effective as
well as a TOPAKA, which is cyclosporin, another imbnomodulator. So
if we can suppress the immune response right to these allergens,
then the pests should do better. So I would say
it gets really bad, you might want to consider seeing
(05:19):
a board certified binary dermatologist, but typically the side of
points the apple clothes. It could happen. One last thing, fleas,
don't forget about the fleas because they cause a lot
of allergens, and if a dog has signs of allergy
and is doing an excessive licking and chewing, they might
(05:39):
also be getting secondary bacterial infection, which of course is
also itchy, so its share as well.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
And the other question I had for you is, I'm
seeing all over social media there's this thing called anti
dog barking, and it emits this sound that only the
dogs can hear. There's a lot of controversy that says
it could give the dog headaches and it's bad for
the dog.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
What's your your opinion on that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I mean, certainly their their their ability to hear sounds
that we don't hear is very great. To talk to
a dog who starts acting weird about a week before
July fourth, they're they're they're hearing these things, the fireworks
going from miles and miles away that you're not hearing
as far as you know. When you get these very
(06:25):
very low sounds or that are barely audible for us,
you know, it's hard to tell because first of all,
it's hard to tell with the dog has a headache,
they're not going to tell you. Yeah, And so you
hear all these these opinions, these empirical data that may
may not be real. I the I know, the the humaniacs,
these humane groups seemed to like some of those non
(06:49):
painful no sharks, I mean bark collars, no shocking, and
I kind of agree. So whether or not it hurts them,
I don't know. I have not been able to get
a straight answer from any dog I've asked, Thank.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
You so much.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Here is a question from a listener Tony. He says,
I have nine year old chocolate lab but sprained orneath
five years ago, now has stiffness arthritis. Only eats Costco
dog food, which contains glucosamine and controyten. I'm also giving
her sinflex as a supplement. He wants to know Tony
does about Lobrella treatments, and he's concerned about side effects.
(07:28):
Are you familiar with this supplement Lobrella?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I am very a something. It's actually an injection.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I see it's good for a month.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
All right. There is a lot of controversy which happens
with any new medication that you hear all these stories
coming out of the woodwork. There was a story that
I heard about with two days after the dog received
a Slabrella shot it's rop dead. Of course, the Zoetis,
which is a company that makes it, was very concerned.
They sent it to an independent pathology lab who did
(07:59):
a post ornament exam on the dog. Turns out the
dogs had a splenic tumor that ruptured and the dogs
to do with Librella. Coincidental, yes, causal no. So I
have you know, I've read a lot of the information.
You know, think about this. Mark watch a commercial on
(08:20):
TV about a new drug and they throw out, what
a beautiful commercial, and everybody's playing and having fun and
throwing the ball around and running the water at the beach,
and at the very end it starts to giving the
side effects and could cause death. So sign me up
for that one right away. I mean. So what's happening
is that the FDA has to report every untoward event,
(08:41):
whether it had anything to do with the drug or not.
So we're seeing a lot of this. I did speak
to Duetis and they have tested this medication has been
used in Europe over a million doses and the the
negative reaction rate is roughly so that's not bad when
(09:03):
you think about it. So I have used personally on
my patients probably two hundred doses, and I have only
one dog that didn't have a terrible reaction, but did
get a little sore and vomited afterward by it. By
the way, it was also after their fourth ejection I see.
So that means they went through one to three with
(09:23):
no problem and four may not have been related. It
could have dogs would have eaten something that day. So
something you want to talk to your veterinarian, do your
homework online, but I would pay it. From my experience,
it has been a really good drug. In fact, so
good that people are literally lining up a month later
to get their next shot.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Wow, Doctor Jeff Weerber, veterinarian to the stars. Hey, by
the way, doctor Jeff vetter, I'm going to ask you
a quote. Would you stay with us for a little
bit of the next segment. I kind of have a
big question to ask you about also from a listener,
and I would love.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
To if I can, absolutely love to mark that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Doctor Jeff Werber. You can follow him on social media.
He's were on Instagram. Verbs w E RBS underscore DVM.
I think it stands for Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, verbs
underscore d VM doctor Jeff Werber.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
We continue you're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand
from KFI AM six.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Forty Conway back on Monday. I did want to mention
because the IR radio app we are talking to doctor
Jeff Werber, who is the brilliant veterinarian. He works right
here in Los Angeles, I think Santa Monica, but he
has a show on iHeart Radio. Yeah it's uh Sunday,
I think it's Sunday the online radio show. It's called
(10:41):
pet Life Radio, I believe, isn't that right, Jeff right?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Pet Life Radio. It's an iHeart radio station. We're on
every Sunday morning and I simulcast it with Instagram live
and it's from nine to nine thirty. So I'm on
the I'm on the visit the visual. The visual is
on iHeart Radio and you can also see me on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, no, I love it. I'm chuckling because I really
think you do that really well. So I've seen you
doing your Instagram stuff in it's nine to nine thirty
on the Sunday mornings. So you know, I mentioned I've
had stuff from listeners and this is sort of a
big picture question about veterinary medicine, and I wanted to
ask you about it. This person writes that she'd been
(11:23):
seeing the most wonderful veterinarian ever. When the large veterinary
practice she worked for was bought out by a big corporation,
she quit. She told me this I'm reading from the email.
They would not let her provide the care that she
felt was proper and she was ultra competent and thorough.
I have tried to locate her via the state veterinary
Licensing Department. I haven't been able to find her. My
(11:44):
biggest bills for the past few years, this person writes,
are for cat care one of my cats, which, while
he is a family member and loved a million, does
incur big bills. My question is that it seems it's
a somewhat recent trend for big corporations to buy small
and large veta ordinary practices. My research shows that now
often vets whom I greatly value, are paid by the
(12:05):
corporation as a salary plus a percentage of the revenue
they bring in, which I feel compromises the care of
my cats. What options do pet parents have to get
better care for their pets and pay more reasonable prices,
and then she goes on, I understand veterinary practices are expensive,
how do I find a cat care that's more confident?
So this is a longer email, but it does address
sort of what are oftentimes withering costs when it comes
(12:28):
to taking care of cats, in this case cats or dogs.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So, first of all, she is very astute, and it's
all true about now. Forty percent of hospitals are taken
over by large corporations. VCA, for example, believe it or not,
is owned by a larger company known as Mars. Now,
if you think of Mars other than the planet, you're
thinking of Eminem's and Snickers. Well, yes, what chocolk bar
(12:53):
right Cars is the largest, the largest provider of pet
care in the world, the largest provider of pets food
in the world, and still only known for their candy.
They are a privately held business and guess what most
privately held venture capital private equity businesses care about more
than anything profit. So what she I sold to BCA
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as well, and I did very well on the sale.
But I said the same thing I actually put in
my contract that I am to perform the way I
did prior to the acquisition, and guess what. So I
feel for her that both the women who wrote the
letter and her doctor, because I created so much hell
with them, fighting and fighting about the way I want
(13:38):
to practice and the care I want to provide and
the fair pricing I want to offer, And after going nowhere,
they fired me because I just raised too much help. Wow,
I moved my practice. So I moved my practice to
Westwood to a small little practice owned by two veterans
who non veterinarians actually, and my clients all followed me.
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So what's happening is, first of all, it is big business,
a lot of it owned by corporations, and they care
about the money. It is very hard to get doctors
to work because there's also a shift in work ethic.
For me, what was a full time job when I
started practicing forty two years ago, it was it was
(14:23):
sixty hours a week. Now it's about fifty hours a week.
I'm still working five days a week right, and now
the average graduate is working about thirty hours a week.
So there's a shortage of veterinarians. There are more numbers
of veterinarians, but work hours are depressed. People don't want
to work at hospitals they want to work relief. So
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the cost of operating a veteran hospital has gone up
because they're trying to attract veterinarians. And as she wrote
in a letter, that's what's happening. They are getting paid
so much, and who actually, when you think about it,
is paying those salaries you the pet parent. And costs
have gone up, Costs of supplies have gone up, Laboratory
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costs have gone up tremendously in the last few years.
So I get it. To run a business and to
make it work, their pricing has gone through the roof,
very frustrating, and therefore what I'm getting, what I'm seeing
is people aren't getting the care they need for their
pets because they can't afford it. And right now there
are really very few alternatives. So you want to look
(15:29):
for and answer the question still, look for a private practice,
a mom and pop practice where the people are becoming
are coming not because the fees, not the costs, They're
coming because of the relationships and the trust factor. I
have a saying when I lecture, clients don't care how
much you know until they know how much you care.
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So if you find that veterinarian that really does care
about your pet and put money secondary. That's the kind
of person you want to find. They're out there. I'm
one of them. We're out there.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, but you have to hunt.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But you to hunt. Yeah, we are dinosaurs one hundred percent.
That old Marcus will be kind of family. Is. I
had a client commit for one of these other corporate hospitals.
They were there six visits and saw five different veterinarians.
How do you build a relationship. That's like if I
ask a mom, who's your pediatrician, they will answer in
(16:28):
a heartbeat. They know exactly who it is, who's your dentist,
They know exactly who it is, who's your veterinarian. Oh,
I don't know. I go to this this sole place,
I see a different one all the time. That's I
don't I do understand it. But that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, it's sad, that's really I appreciate that was a
really thorough response, and I appreciate the fact that there's
still some outlets. But you really have to hunt for
people like yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Absolutely, it's it is. It's frightening. And I look at
I mean Mark, I had a case last week one
of the big conglomerates, right caught. They quoted for a
surgery of a dog ate a sock. I don't know
a little stuff. Teddy bear really what it was, and
he thought it was a sock. They quoted him fourteen
thousand dollars. Yeah, how do you afford that? That's that's crazy. Yeah,
(17:18):
well we thought it. We did it for less than
half that I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Great, that's great to hear.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I mean, here's the problem and having just just lived
through I got to wrap up. But having just lived
through it, and you knew it because you described this.
I mean even in our conversation, I was just kind
of seeking counsel on you know, objective veterinary opinions. You know,
you're so you feel compelled to do something. You feel like,
that's what I need to do. You're telling me this
surgery could save my sweetheart's life, my little creature's life.
(17:47):
I'll do it, and I'll borrow the money and I'll
worry about it later and I'll you know, and that
urgency and emotion is is informing a lot of that moment,
right yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
And you know again, we started my son and I
run a telemedicine platform as well, because I would tell
you this is frightening for most people to hear. Ninety
percent of quote unquote emergencies aren't. But at two in
the morning, who do you call? Your your own hospital
sends you to emergency clinic. Sure, so what you're stuck?
And so if you should all check out some sort
(18:23):
of telemedicine platform and use it because that will save
you thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right on pat Life Radio, Jeff is there, the good doctor,
doctor Jeff Werber. You can find him on Sundays simulcast
on Instagram as well. His Instagram handle is erbs w
Erbs Underscore DVM and doctor Jeff Werber is is just
a great part of the veterinary scene that gets harder
(18:51):
and harder every year to find greatness in I mean
it is. It's witheringly expensive. It's really hard to get
good care and I apply for You can call yourself
a dinosaur, but you're a shining light in all this.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
We are I think that how long we've gone back?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I'll see you at the Dinosaur meeting. Great to
talk to you, doctor Jeff Werber. All the best, my friend,
Thank you and Mark, thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
So much for having me and you know, people can
always recently have questions. I love helping people with their pets.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Awesome. Yeah again.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You can reach out to him on Instagram at minimum
Verbs Underscore DVM.
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uncle listening to the reason you're there for a speeding.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Ticket, for whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
He really carved out this sort of space in the
judicial system that we don't usually find. You know, the
judicial system can be pretty cold place, and this guy, Frankcaprio,
was quite different. He just passed away at age eighty eight,
is why we're talking about him. And he had a
(21:33):
show called Caught in Providence that ran between twenty eighteen
and twenty twenty, got a lot of daytime Emmy Award nominations,
and he was a beloved figure, this judge, and as
I say, he carved out a special spot in this
world of justice that seldom has a spot for anybody
(21:55):
in particular.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
One thing you can't fake is a smile. She had
a genuine one.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Honestly, the courtroom community is mourning a daytime TV icon
Caprio has died at eighty eight years old, following what
his Instagram tribute calls a long and courageous battle with
pinkreotic cancer.
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Keep up your good work, get some good grades, go
on and graduate.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Make us proud.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Thank you, Good luck to you.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You've done a good job with your son.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Caprio found fame at the tail end of a lengthy
legal system tenure, with TV cameras capturing his soft touch
approach in the courtroom, earning in the nickname Nicest Judge
in the World.
Speaker 11 (22:38):
So, even though you are responsible for that, I'm going
to take a big burden off your head.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, I'm going to dismiss those tickets. Even though they've
in your own name, you are really.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Responsible for them, and I'm exercising my judicial discretion.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'm going to dismiss them. Thank you so much, So
that's not hanging over your head, okay.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Caprio's online tribute requested fans honor his memory by striving
to bring a little more compassion into the world, just
as he did every day.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's really sweet, Judge Frank Caprio passing away at age
eighty eight, and I hope that when I'm passing away
that there can be some.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
AI generated voice like that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
With music behind it to memorialize my passing.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It was quite moving.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
How could they take Frank Caprio, He's a beloved figure
and put some AI voice on it with some music
behind it.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
That's all I can find.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's not your fault, that's right. It's not your fault.
It's society's fault. Gosh, he really was sweet. Most of
his stuff is just so touching, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Oh, yeah, it makes you.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Cry, exactly exactly.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
He'd bring kids up.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, he'd bring kids up to the bench. Yeah, exactly right. Wow,
what a bad break. I mean, I know that's a
long life eighty eight, but man, pancreatic cancer can be
tough that advanced age.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Anyway, Frank Caprio, the judge, quite famous in the world
of TikTok and Instagram and social media and certainly in
his world in Rhode Island, passes away. It is The
Conway Show as we continue what to know about ESPN's
new streaming service, and Delta get sued. That's right, lawsuit
(24:31):
and United may be named in the same suit. We'll
fill you in on all of that as we continue.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
You're listening to Tim conwaytun you're on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Just spend a few minutes talking to Sharon Bellio, who
rushed in here. We're content oriented, and the conversation to
kind of make this show build out in continued ways,
each segment building on the segment prior. And then we
got into a digression, and then she left without giving
me the MATERI reals I needed for this next segment.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Okay, I'll set it up, all right.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Jillian Michaels pushes back on claims made against her in
Netflix's Biggest Loser docuseries.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
How's that very well done? All right, here's a here's more.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Honestly, it's just filled with so many lies, practical knowledge
of medicine.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Did people in large numbers see this because I heard
this is really good, this docuseries that I guess Jillian
Michaels wasn't too crazy about. What do they well, I guess,
let's listen. I think they allege a lot of stuff,
and she's not happy about it.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Filled with so many lies, practical knowledge of medicine, people
will do a lot of things to win.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
It's just filled with so many lies.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Who edited this? Does it? Does it go past this?
Or is this just age?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:54):
No, she'd go back for all of us.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is going to be good. That's good.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's so we don't listen to these things ahead of time,
so that we know that there's this lad that the kids.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Going over over again.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Mark Jillians had no practical knowledge of medicine.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
People will do a lot of things to win. Please please?
Speaker 12 (26:14):
What two words for Gillian's reaction to the doc Scorched Earth.
She's lawyered up, hiring the attorney Justin Baldoni is using
and it ends with us lawsuit. Brian Friedman telling TMZ
she's taking aim at Netflix, former friend Bob Harper and
doctor Robert Heisinger, and she's bringing receipts.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Do we pursue this legally?
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Do I just do a data dom At no point
was caffeine banned from the show.
Speaker 12 (26:43):
Jillian claims this email with Bob and doctor Heizinger's assistant
shows they were aware caffeine pills would be distributed to contestants,
which they denied in the doc.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And with E t oh, that's interesting. And the caffeine
pills are designed to raise your metabolism and make you
sort of less hungry.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's the idea.
Speaker 12 (27:01):
Okay, her contestants were using the caffeine pills.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
You had no idea that that was going on.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
No, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
No caffeine pills were allowed.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
As for this claim, they said, Ryan, there's blood in
your urine, which is obviously means you're so dehydrated. She
gives me a big hug and she says, Ryan, you
just made me a millionaire.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Sounds like Jillian Michaels. Jullian, sheared, And I don't get
that he explain that to me.
Speaker 10 (27:29):
Doesn't she get like incentives, like because she trains some
of them and if they lose a certain amount of weight?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, I see, okay, i'd seen perhaps heard. I can't
remember if I saw it on traider or heard that.
Some of that which they asked contestants to do, even
to qualify to be on Biggest Loser, was, you know,
cause them to pass out. One had to be like
metavacked out? Am I right about this? Did you hear
(27:56):
about this?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Sharon?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It was like there there's a there was a major
there's some major controversies.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Within the show.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, yeah, there had been incidents like that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, exactly, sounds like Jillian Michaels.
Speaker 12 (28:07):
Jillian shared an alleged text message with the show's producers,
stating they were both micd and quote. No one is
aware of any recording capturing such a comment. But what
about Jillian and Bob's falling out.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
After I had my heart attack?
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Uh, she's the one person I never heard from. I'd
talked to her in many, many years. Oh well, so
you guys have not spoken in years?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
How long?
Speaker 8 (28:29):
I mean, it's been, god more than more than ten years,
I guess.
Speaker 12 (28:33):
Jillian shared one of their last text exchange.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Now he is another trainer on the show, right, Yes, okay,
just wanted to make sure I got show. And he
went on after that show to do other reality shows.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Yeah, he's done a few of them.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (28:46):
Jillian shared one of their last text exchanges, claiming he
was the one who stopped replying to her.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
That's all I can tell you is it's always been
like this. He'll be saying negative things about me, and
it was a very long and complex relationship. I can't
even really honestly tell you why all I can do
is show you like, look at the documentary and that
is what I lived with the entire time.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Just do it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Just stop talking and do it.
Speaker 12 (29:12):
There has been no comment from Netflix.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Wow, that's on the Biggest Loser. Her yelling like that.
Speaker 10 (29:17):
Oh yeah, there was a lot of that, wasn't it.
I remember seeing clips like that. Gosh, that's really tough, man.
I don't know. That's a I'm glad I didn't watch this.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Sure, stop talking and do it.
Speaker 12 (29:26):
There has been no comment from Netflix, Bob or doctor
Heizinga about Gillian's claims, but America sure seems to be
hungry for the drama fit for TV. The Reality of
The Biggest Loser is currently number two on Netflix's talk
TV shows.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Do you have a message for her if she happens
to see this? How fun watching it? Wow?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It sounds like this is a real mess, you would think,
and this is typically the way it goes that when
a documentary like this which alleges all of these controversial
things about Biggest Loser in the way they.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Handled it, that when you.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
But when you're about to put that out, it's dry
cleaned by lawyers. I mean, they're really strict legal hoops
you got to go through.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
I remember one of the things I always bugged me
about the show is that they would they would weigh
them at various points, obviously, but it would be based
on the percentage of weight lost as opposed to the
percentage of fat lost.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
So it could be they could have.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
Lost you know, muscle weight, waterweight, any of that sort
of stuff. It's to be I always found a little
bit disingenuous.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, you're right, You're right. I mean I would think
that though, like they have those what are they called
pills to yeah, like water pills right directs. That's exactly
what I want to do.
Speaker 10 (30:44):
The days of Matthew Modine and Vision Quest where he
sat in the back of a bus and just sit
there and spit water out until he got to the
weight he needed to be at.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It's just yeah, anyway, I guess this is uh, this
is just heating up this legal battle. We'll see ESPN
making changes. We'll tell you about them next.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
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