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May 21, 2025 22 mins
Heather Brooker fills in for Amy King while she is out sick. KFI Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins Wake Up Call for ‘Wired Wednesday’! Rich talks about the NEW real time AI camera, Fortnite returning to iPhone, and a NEW cashback assistant for Amazon. ABC News national reporter Steven Portnoy talks about Trump unveiling plans for the ‘Golden Dome’ missile defense shield that could cost tens of billions. Bloomberg’s Courtney Donohoe shares the latest from Wall Street and what’s trending in business. The show closes with ABC News national correspondent Jim Ryan talking about how valuable sleep really is.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
KFI and KOST HD two Los Angeles, Orange County.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's time for your morning wake up call. Hey, it's Heatherbrooker.
Good morning. It is five eighteen on your wake up call.
We've had a little bit of a shuffle this morning,
a truffle shuffle because I overslept a little bit. You know,
we've had some people outstick this week here at KFI.

(00:28):
That's why I'm here at filling in for miss Amy King,
who is still under the weather, not feeling well, and
in my attempt to kind of help myself feel better
and make sure I didn't get sick, I might have
had a little too much cough ser up last night,
a little bit too much of the testing, but so
I overslept a little bit. So that's why things are

(00:50):
feeling just a little bit off this morning. But don't worry.
We are going to get you back on track. We're
here now, we have got all the news of the day,
and I'm going to lay off the tussin for a
little while, but we are going to go ahead right
now and talk live with Rich jamiro Good.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Morning, Rich, Hey, good morning to you, Heather. No worries,
it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I know that You've worked a long time in morning
television as well. You and I were together years ago
in morning TV at KTLA. So but this is the
first time I've ever actually been late, and like I'm
I'm sort of mortified. So please forgive me.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
No worries. I only set one alarm because you know what,
we are humans. I wake up every day very very early,
and on the off chance I don't wake up or
something happens, you know what, that's life. So we all
roll with it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
We just roll with it. That's right. Well, let's talk
about what you're rolling with right now. I want to
hear about the latest from Google Io. What's happening over there.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, so Google Io is happening right now in Mountain
View where I am. And this is Google's kind of
big conference where they show off all the cool things
they're working on. In years past, it's been a lot
on Android and of course search, but this year it's
all about AI. So two new things that you can
try out right now. Number one, AI mode. This is

(02:09):
the coolest new way to search Google. Look for it.
When you go on that search page, it'll say AI
mode or you might see a button, But basically Google
is now doing the search for you, So instead of
returning a bunch of blue links, it will search the web,
scour through millions of websites, and then return what I
call a book report with just the information you need.

(02:32):
And you can get really specific with your request. You
can say something that's never been asked before, like, hey,
can you compare bikes for kids ages ten and thirteen?
And I want one of them to have pink wheels, whatever,
and it will figure that out for you. The second
thing Heather is called Gemini Live, and this allows you
to point your phone, your phone's camera at something and

(02:55):
talk with AI about it. So it's pretty much like
having the smartest person you've ever interacted with in your
entire life in your pocket. And that is now available
across Android and iOS. Previously this was just for Android folks.
So now with iOS you can download the Gemini app
from Google, point your camera at something and literally have

(03:16):
a conversation. It is quite incredible.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
That is so cool. You know, I heard you mentioning
the other day when you're something about when you're getting
returns on Google searches, sometimes it kind of gives you
just the highlights and like from articles or you know
things that it might have grabbed from searches, and it's
not always accurate. Is that what Gemini Live is or
is that something different?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah? I mean, well it's all AI, so I mean
basically everything that's evolving at AI. But you have to
just be careful because no matter what, if AI is
giving you a response, it's not guaranteed to be right.
And so the two things I just mentioned. The AI mode,
what they do is they put links to almost everything
that you that it returns to you, so that you

(04:00):
can go and double check that link if you're like,
wait a second, they said, you know, five million people
live in this city and I think it's more like ten.
Let me check that link and see where they got
that from. And then with Gemini, same thing. I mean,
it's an AI creation, So this thing is sort of
an embodied AI voice, and the information behind it is

(04:21):
just as good as AI can be. So you just
have to keep in mind that just because AI is
telling you something doesn't mean it's one hundred percent accurate.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And let's talk about something that I think a lot
of maybe teens and preteens might be excited about about
Fortnite finally making its way back to the iPhone.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Oh my gosh, what a long saga this has been.
It's been nearly five years, but Fortnite is officially back
on the iPhone and iPad. I expect productivity in the
United States to take a nosedive today as everyone redownloads
this to their phone. But this was all about the
way you could make purchases on the iPhone. This game

(05:00):
got fed up with the fact that Apple would take
a thirty percent cut on pretty much anything you purchased
for this game. Apple saying, you know what, we created
the iPhone, we created the app store, we get a
cut of everything. And this developer said, you know what,
We're actually going to fight you on that, and it
took them five years to win. But now every app

(05:20):
on the iPhone has the ability to give you other
options for payments, so you don't have to pay through
the app store. You might be able to pay through PayPal,
you might be able to pay through a website through
a third party payment method. And what that means is
that developers have to pay or can pay less to
Apple as a commission, which means prices could I say,
could could be lower for us in the end.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, and then Amazon has a new assistant that's going
to give shoppers a little cash back. What is that about.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, this is really cool. I've never seen anything like
this before with Amazon. So this is a new shopping
extension called shop Back. This is popular in Australia. It
just came to the United States. They're hoping to make
a big splash and so on pretty much every Amazon
order you can now get a dollar back. They also

(06:11):
support popular retailers like Walmart, best By, Macy's, Expedia, and
they just give you cash back if you have this
installed on your phone or your browser. And the whole
point here, Heather is this company makes money, you know,
partnering with these sites and getting you ultimately to shop
more and spend more money. So they also do these
things called quests, which are like, you know, little things

(06:34):
you do to make extra money on your shopping. So
right now they're offering like ten dollars back if you
spend two hundred dollars, five dollars back if you use
this for the first time, you can cash out to PayPal.
And I got to say, I'm quite impressed. I have
it installed on my browser and I've got the link
on my website, Rich on tech dot TV if you
want to try it out.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's so cool. Well, it sounds like you're learning a
lot and having a lot of it. I know you're
in heaven with with you know, events like this and
things like this. I'm sure you're having a really good time.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Oh my god. I get to hang out with all
the coolest nerds in the world and talk technology. It
is I mean literally to get to talk to the
people at Google that actually create the stuff we use
on a daily basis to me is like the coolest
thing ever. So I'm like, hey, I have a suggestion
for you, and they're like, I think time's up.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Rich.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
They're like, we got it, we got it. Oh that's
so fun. Well, thank you so much for your time
so morning, and thank you for your patience and helping
me roll with it. Hopefully we'll get everything back on.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Track now, no worries. Have a great day.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Thanks Rich. All right, we'll talk soon. All right, our
talk back this morning on the iHeartRadio app. Give me
a call, let me know, or give us a little
drop us a note if you will, and let us
know a time where you've been late to work. We'd
love to hear your stories, and we'll try to get
those in at the bottom of the show today. All right,
let's get back to some of the stories coming out

(07:52):
of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. The US military
has completed a successful test launch of an unarmed nuclear
missile from northern Santa Barbara County.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
The launch from Vandenburg Space Force Space took place just
after midnight. The weapon that was tested as a minute
Man three intercontinental ballistic missile, the icbm's re entry vehicle,
traveled about forty two hundred miles to another test site
within the Republic of the Marshall Islands. Military officials say
the launch was routine and was scheduled years in advance.

(08:22):
Daniel Martindale, CAFI News Huntington Beach.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Republican Senator Tony Strickland says California's high speed rail project
is hemorrhaging from self inflicted wounds. He tells kfi's John
Cobalt his colleagues in the Senate need to discuss whether
the high speed project should be axed.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'm welcoming Dojin and the Solo government coming in an
audit this whole high speed rail because there's no way
there spending these billions of dollars, and we haven't laid
down one track.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
He says. The public's trust in the project is already
low because the cost has swelled up beyond the original proposal.
After weeks of tense negotiations, those Republicans appear ready to
take their massive reconciliation bill, nicknamed the One Big Beautiful Bill,
to the next step. Right now, we're going to talk
to ABC Stephen Portnoy. He has the overnight developments from

(09:12):
Capitol Hill. Good morning, Stephen, Hey, good morning to you. Uh.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
We're waiting waiting for the Rules Committee to receive the
manager's amendment from the Speaker that would reflect any changes
that he's prepared to make to get the holdouts on board.
I know a lot of you know, oh, the Rules
Committee is meeting. Yes, that's true, but that's a placeholder.
It's perfunctory. All the overnight back and forth is performative.
What really matters is what's going on behind closed doors,

(09:37):
not on camera, not in the committee room, but it
is sort of in the backstage place where this is
all dressed up and we don't yet know exactly what
kind of concession Speaker Johnson's prepared to make to get
the holdouts on board. There are conservative holdouts who say
that this bill doesn't cut enough, and there are moderate
holdouts who demand a greater increase in the deduction for

(09:59):
stint in lowe taxes, and they hail from places such
as California, New York, and New Jersey. And yesterday they
issued a joint statement saying that they expect meaningful changes
to get themselves on board. And according to Andy Harris,
who's a conservative from Maryland who chairs the House Freedom Caucus,
he said in an interview this morning that the bill
actually got worse overnight, not a good sign for Speaker Johnson,

(10:22):
who hopes to have this bill on the floor of
the House today.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So how much influence does President Trump have over these negotiations,
especially when it comes to moderates.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Not a lot, because if he had more leverage and
more power, he would have achieved yesterday the unanimity that
he sought to when he went up to Capitol Hill.
But after he spoke to the congressman, the takeaway was
that there was still a number of holdouts enough to
kill it. So let's see what more needle threading the

(10:54):
Speaker can accomplish.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
So if the House Rules Committee clears the bills in
what does the next expected timeline? Does it go right
to the floor.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
If the Rules Committee receives the manager's amendment again, the
Speaker of the House holds this bill in his hands,
he's got to make the tweaks. If he delivers that
those tweaks to the Rules Committee, you'd expect the Rules
Committee would pass it and then it would wind up
on the floor for passage. He wants that to happen today.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
All right, well, we will keep an eye out and
see if it happens. Thank you so much, Steven, have
a wonderful rest of your day. You bet all right
it it's time now to get in your business. With
Bloomberg's Courtney Donahoe up in your business. I know, I know,
I was like, should I keep it? I'm gonna keep
doing it. I don't want to Amy to be like,
what have you done to my beautiful Bloomberg segment.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It was actually funny, I was.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I was saying off Mike earlier, how much I am,
how much I love getting up in my.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Business, everyday business.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
You know, I'm in New Yorker, I'm looking for a
fight in the morning.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I love that. All right. Well, let's talk about what
Toyota is doing doubling down on those hybrids.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Huh yes, so demand for hybrid cars, it's definitely skyrocketed
in recent years, and Toyota has emerged as a market
leader here in the US. And this report is sponsored
by Fidelity Wealth Management. Now, the car maker is discontinuing
the gas only version of the best selling RAP four,
instead offering standard and plug in hybrids later this year.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
The current RAP for that debuted seven.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Years ago, but it's begun to show the signs of age,
as we all do. But it's still the top selling
vehicle in the US outside of pickups. But Toyota is
also thinking about tiny trucks. The automakers looking into offering
a compact pickup in the US, potentially joining Ford and
Hyundai in competing in this specific market.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't know that I would want a tiny truck.
I used to have a big F one fifty, and
I like I like a bigger truck. But you know,
maybe it's where some people might be into it.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
But apparently Toyota management has been saying that they have
been getting requests from the dealers that they want a
truck smaller than the Tundra, which is the mid size
version and the full sized Coma, but there is still
no timeline on if a small truck will be launched,
so you don't have to worry about going violince.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, good, okay, good good. All right, So let's talk
about Target. They're seeing shoppers continue to hold on to
their wallets and not head out there.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Huh.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Targe has been facing a lot of challenges, So the
retailer has been struggling with consumers who are spending less
on clothes, home.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Goods, other non necessities in the past two years.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
That's a bulk of what they sell and it looks
like it's not changing anytime soon. Target sees continued weakness
and spending. Also, you can't forget about the uncertainty over tariffs,
so a forecast a decline in sales this year. But
executives say that they're also adjusting prices in response to
the environment.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's a fancy way of price hikes are on the way.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
But one thing that was interesting is they didn't directly
link the changes to tariffs.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
They are saying environment.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Walmart said last week that price hikes were on the way,
and that definitely got Donald Trump quite mad. So you
see here that they were very careful with the language
on saying that there are price hikes on the way.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
But people are still spending on their homes.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Oh yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
It's a very different story this week from the home
improvement retailers.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
People are still doing small fixes.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Many continue to put off the big projects due to
high interest rates, but they're pursuing the smaller ones and
that's helping loads which report a quarterly sales at top expectations,
saying yesterday Home Depot said sales ticked up in the US,
boosted by small projects. But the company also said it
expects to keep their current level of pricing, so not
many price hikes on the way, because they said the

(14:43):
defer their supply chain is quite diversified.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, always a good time talking with you. I have
no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. I may not
be here, I may be here. Who knows. We're going
to roll with it and we're going to be well.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
We're always getting up in our business no matter what.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Next time I talk to you, what will be getting
up in your business Courtney. Thank you so much. Have
a great day you too, See you later. All right,
you guys, Once again, we are taking your talkbacks here
at wake Up Call. Just press that talkback button on
the iHeartRadio app. A few stories are already coming in.
Share your story with me of the time you were
late to work. What happened? Did you get fired, did

(15:20):
you get high fived? Did you just roll the entire shift?
What happened? Just hit that talkback button and we'll try
to share some of the stories before the end of
the show today. If you haven't heard so far this morning,
we are taking your talkbacks here on wake Up Call.
Hit that talkback button on the iHeart Radio app. Tell
me about a time that you overslept and what happened.
I want to hear your story this morning. But right

(15:41):
now we are going to talk about sleep and hitting
that snooze button with ABC's Jim Ryan. Good morning, Jim morning.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
I think my worst experience was sleep. Falling asleep in
an airport terminal and missing my flight. No waking up,
look around and everybody's gone like, oh.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Great, oh no, were you able to catch another flight?
I'm assuming all right, So let's talk about this study,
why are we hitting the snooze button.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
Because we're not getting enough sleep at night. That's the
long and short of it. Researchers that took a look
at this to see exactly what's going on there and
found that, in fact, more than half of the world
is hitting the snooze button. Mass General Brigham did this study.
They looked at watch data or fitness data from twenty

(16:25):
one thousand people around the world, which is pretty representative
to see how much sleep people are getting at night
and whether they're hitting the snooze button and the quality
of sleep they get between the initial alarm and the
snooze button. And I'll tell you, at least according to
the researcher I talked with yesterday, it's not very good
quality sleep. It's fragmented, it's not restorative, it's not RESTful.

(16:47):
You just kind of dry yourself out of bed after
hitting the snooze alarm a couple of times, and it's
not really doing you much good.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, I am not a snooze person, but I certainly
just wants the alarm. We'll just close my eyes maybe
for a few more minutes. This morning, I didn't hear
the alarm at all. So that's also another problem. Why
what is this, Why are we doing this? Why are
researchers saying that our brains and bodies you know, want

(17:15):
to hit that's snooze button, and why isn't it helpful
that we can get an extra ten minutes.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
Well, you know, it's a symptom as much as anything else.
It means that you're not getting enough sleep at night.
So the advice from these researchers and others is that
you need to try to get to bed earlier, try
to figure out what your optimally is, what a sweet
spot is for your sleep schedule, and it's different for
different people. Some folks, Conano gets along with three hours

(17:40):
sleep at night, some folks need ten hours sleep at night,
and then most of us are somewhere in between. Right,
So you find that that sweet spot, then back time
it so that you're getting to bed at the proper
time and instead of you know, hitting the sleep you know,
thinking all right, I'm gonna set my alarm for six
thirty and if I can't get up, I'll hit the

(18:01):
snooze get up at six thirty five. Just set the
initial alarm for six thirty five and get out of bed.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Oooh, all right, maybe sees Jim Ryan telling us how
to get it going. I'm going to I need that
is good advice for me, especially this morning. So Jim,
thank you so much. It is definitely I think we
all as a country need more sleep. Right, Yeah, we'll
work finally. Thank you, Jim. Have a wonderful rest of
your day.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
By the way, I asked that researcher yesterday, do you
ever hit the sleep this news alarm?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
She said?

Speaker 9 (18:29):
She pucially she said yes sometimes.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, I mean everybody's done it. Everybody's done it. Well,
hopefully we can all maybe squeeze in a nap at
some point with me today too. I'm going to for
sure good for you. All right, Thanks Jim, We'll talk soon.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
See ya.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
All right, let's get back to some of the stories
coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. The
Mayor of Saint Louis has signed in order to clarify
the sounding of tornado sirens. It comes just days after
the city was hit by a tornado, but the sirens
didn't activate properly. Mayor Garas Spencer says the fire Department
will now be the designated direct National Weather service Alert recipient.

(19:05):
We are in the process of automating that system.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Within a year, there will not be a need to
have a human being press the button.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
She says. The old protocol was in place in twenty
twenty one and it wasn't clear who was responsible for
pushing the button to activate the sirens. A retired social
worker is keeping an ear on his old gig.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Paul Jenkinson retired in twenty seventeen, but he's still doing
what he did when he worked, listening to people. The
former therapist from Nova Scotia began his I will listen
to her across Canada on May first, with a folding
table in two chairs. He says, it's like a stranger
on the plane that you're never going to see again.
There's no timeline, no topics barred, no charge, no pressure,
and he'll keep it confidential unless they talk about harming

(19:48):
themselves or others.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
He says.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
He's homeless, but not destitute, more like a transient with money,
and the people who sit across from him range from
recovering addicts to people like him who help others just
by listening. Michael Krozer, I News.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
All right, we are wrapping up Wake up Call. But
before we go today, I want to say huge thank
you to everybody in the wake up call crew for
being so patient with me and helping me keep things
rolling along this morning. Seriously, best team in the biz.
Thank you guys so much. And now I want to
hear your sleep in stories. Who wants to go first?
Will tell me your sleep in stories. I've had too

(20:22):
many to mention. Okay, I've even had one here. Yeah,
it's like, you know, it happened, It happens. It's mortifying,
but it happens. Okay, all right, and cono, have you
had any sleep in stories or overslept stories.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
On the other day.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I know I didn't want to call. I didn't want
to mention it, but I was like, you did want
to mention it? No, yeah, you don't want to be
by yourself, that's right, Okay, I do want There is
comfort in solidarity for sure. And Anne ran away maybe
she doesn't want to admit that she had a sleep
in a moment, but we have some talkbacks here. I
want to share what people are saying about the times
that they overslept. Here is what Here's what people are

(21:01):
calling in and saying.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
It's truly the next from Brooklyn, and I fell football
yard football. Okay, here we go. During nine to eleven,
I overslept, I was late for work. I woke up,
grabbed the phone and tune. I looked at the TV.
I saw that the first tower went down. Obviously work

(21:25):
was closed that day. But there you go.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Wow, so too bad. Okay, Marvin, Wow, thank you so
much for that story. That's now I don't feel so bad. Now,
I'll never forget that day. Yeah, exactly, all right, here's
not one.

Speaker 10 (21:37):
So I worked nightshift as a nurse in the er
and one day I had taken my.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Kids to Fool, came home, went to sleep.

Speaker 10 (21:45):
I had worked the night before, and then like at
three o'clock pm, I woke up in a panic because
I forgot that I needs to get up and pick
my kids up from school.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
So I jump in the car in.

Speaker 10 (21:58):
My pajamas, and my kids are waiting on the curb,
and they're.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Like, oh my goodness, listen, moms get a pass because
there is a lot that moms, we have a lot
going on, especially when you're dealing with young kids. So
that wow, Well, I'm glad. I hope everything worked out,
and Okay, guys, I think that's going to do it.
We made it. We made it to the end of

(22:23):
wake Up Call. Thank you all so much for your patience,
and again, thank you so much to the wake Up
Call crew. And if you want to continue to share
your overslept stories, I'd love to hear them.

Speaker 11 (22:32):
You've been listening to wake Up Call with me, Amy King.
You can always hear wake Up Call five to six
am Monday through Friday on kf I Am six forty
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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