December 4, 2025 • 26 mins
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
If you're enjoying your Wednesday night. The Sixers have this
Wednesday night off after beating the Wizards.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Last night one twenty one one two.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It was their twentieth game of the season, so it's
about a fourth a quarter of the eighty two game schedule.
And here are Paul George and Tyrese Maxi assessing the
play through twenty games.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Good, you know, despite agetting injuries and guys in and
out and us having to shift and mode.
Speaker 7 (00:59):
Was good.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
I think now we're we should have some consistency with health,
so you know, hopefully we'll be trending. We got a
nice break coming up. We should come out of that,
you know, training helpward.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think we're getting better. You know, it's a little
difficult guys in, guys out at that's hard crant continuity,
But like I think we've done a good job of
competing every single night. You know, Orlando kicked out behind,
but that just just had to go sometimes in the season.
But we're playing the right way. I think we're competing
stremly harm defensive end. We're trying guys are you know,
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coming and getting their working and then being extremely professional
and we're doing a really good job and you got
to keep building.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We welcome in Matt Murphy of sixers dot Com at
twenty games in. And obviously it's an easier answer when
you're coming off of victory where pretty much everybody played
well and the only guy that didn't play was Joelle.
So what how would you describe where they are right now?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was going to ask you, and again thanks for
having me as always on six Ers and sixty love
doing the show with you. About if you feel like
twenty games has arrived quickly or in a normal amount
of time.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't think quickly, but maybe because of the absence
of people right so, but to see Paul George in
three consecutive games now I feel like it's moving.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But to get to this point, no.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
True from a continuity standpoint. Maybe if it was the
same starting group every night, it would feel like we
zoomed to the twenty game mark, but because there have
been different lineups. Although last season was when we really
saw a variety of starting lineups, with new players even
joining the team and getting starts as the injuries piled up,
this year it's just a matter of which key players
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are out on which Knights, and who's when they're in,
they're usually starting, so they're trying to build up as
much chemistry as they can. But to me it seems
a little bit quick. I don't know. And the fact
that Maxi has played twenty all twenty games, yep, and
he's just been unbelievable sensational. I mean, six hundred and
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forty nine points and one hundred and fifty assists in
the twenty games, and that puts him as just the
fifth player in NBA history to put up at least
six hundred and forty points. So he's at six forty
nine and one hundred and fifty assist in the first
twenty games of a season. The other four are Luka Doncic,
James Harden Iverson, and Tiny Archibald. So he's keeping good company, yeah,
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very good company. And I think the turnover games we
notice them more. I'm picking Maxie out specifically here when
we talk about the twenty game mark, because he's played
all twenty. We talk about games where he has uncharacteristic turnovers,
but he's really kept them down over all. If you
look at others stars. Last night, he bounced back tremendously well,
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and he's just awesome. I mean the shooting, the driving.
I said to Tom McGinnis in our postgame show that
some of these layups you just wonder how they go
in through the defense, up and under taller players, but
he's so good with the angles there, and it's just
that dual threat of being able to step back at
any time and hit the threes. And the stats that
he's piled up are are the top story for me
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through twenty games. And then the break that we just
heard Paul George mentioned because of the NBA Cup. Once
you get through this upcoming stretch of Golden State and
somehow Milwaukee on the second night of a back to
back at their place again on Friday, and then the
big game against the Lakers, a Sunday night showdown at
Xfinity Mobile Arena, a seven to thirty game. After that,
that's when the two games were added for the Cup,
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and that's the break that Paul George is talking about
for anyone out there who might not know it'll be
two games in eleven days because the game on the
nineteenth against the Knicks was already on the schedule. But
it's the twelfth at home against Indiana, who is banged
up and having a rough season. And then you see
the Hawks again, who you just had that crazy double
overtime game with. That'll be in Atlanta on Sunday the fourteenth,
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and it got moved to six o'clock. But other than that,
it's just those two games and a lot of practice
days for Nick Nurse and the Sixers after you get
through the Lakers game.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That's very beneficial for people like Paul George. I would
even say Andre Drummond because Drums had to do some
heavy lifting with Joel out and Bona had been out.
But he's back, and for him, after I saw him
go down in that Brooklyn game, I was so couldn't
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believe that he was back in the lineup the next one.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Because the games, it's so important, the games that Joel
doesn't play to have options and not have to maybe
have the backup position at center be filled by a
small ball lineup. So when a Den Bona, his stat
line doesn't even come close to evers like representing his
impact because to me, he's kind of like VJ. Edgecomb's
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and and this is in practice and in the games.
They both just bring such a competitive but fun energy yep.
And I think you see that with Adem coming back
to the lineup. Drummond is more of a quieter veteran presence,
but you need his presence as a center, and you
need Bona as the true other center, I think in
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the non embiid games, so just the rim protection, the size.
It's great that Drummond was able to you know, only
miss essentially like a half of play after two halves
if you count the game that he got injured in,
but over to multiple games. So best one of the
best case scenarios there. And AdeM's energy has just been
really good. Him and Jerry being the same draft class.
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They just have they inject the youth into this team
along with with VJ and just a fun team to watch.
I think Drummond is having a resurgence season alongside being
motivated by by some of these younger guys too. And
also such a good leader with them as well with
guys like them.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And Nick Nurse said it a couple days ago. I
mean he challenged him, you know you're a dem was
going to be in front of him in terms of
the depth chart if you will, if if you came
back as the same guy as a year ago. And
I love that he responded to that. I have two
guys that I say to myself, you know, Dominic Barlow
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and Jabari Walker, Like if you had asked me in
the off season, who are they guys?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Right? Right?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
They could have been in Delaware for all we know.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Right, and here they are. One is in the starting lineup.
And what Jabar gave yesterday with the double double. And
actually want I want you to hear what they talked
about Jabari and how they describe him. If Brendan gunn
can tee up my Walker, sound please? Jabari Walker who
had ten points and twelve rebounds, nine at the defensive
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end against those Wizards yesterday and he did it all
in twenty four minutes.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Smarty man, he's just a bully, so so strong. You know,
he's kind of glue guy, does a little bit of everything.
He spreads through the floor guards, rebounds. You know, he's
just he does so many, so much the little dirty work.
And you know he's said the tough enforcers, he's the
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bully force out there. So very valuable, very valuable.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
To have on us.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's really this night, rebinded well, he defended well, makes
some threes. He's a pretty good shooter, so he's not
pumped peking three. So he does even job.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Is that something that you've been like, just take that shot.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I just wanted to shoot. I see him shooting camp
and every day he makes every training camp like training
camp practice.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He made every three.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So I'm like, dude, you get to you know, shoot
it shooting. You got you made every three in training
camp practice, so you got the leeway. The shooting nurse
wants you to shoot, and the nurse wants you to
sho you gotta.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Shoot him, you know, and you co chest your shoot.
You gotta shoot it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I can add on to that a little bit. McCain
called him tenacious, which he self proclaimed. Jared McCain then
said that's a good word to use, and he was
the one who used it about Jabari Walker. He when
we sit there at the Games, you and I sit
near each other. You can hear Jabari Walker rebounding the
ball more than most guys like Drummond, who we were
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just talking about. It's kind of like smooth his rebounds,
like he's so tall. He just grabbed Jabbari like slams
it with two hands, and you can hear him slap
the ball. And he recently spoke about playing angry, how
sometimes he plays too happy and he has to play angry.
I love that. I mean, he's a guy that was
you know, he knows the NBA life from his father
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being Samaki Walker. His mother was an FBI agent and
he could never talk about that. Early in his career
when they would ask like what does your mom do?
He can never specifically say, I guess, and then she retired.
So he's really fun to hear to listen to when
he speaks, and then when they speak about him, it's
great like what we just heard and McCain calling him
tenacious and he played angry to have that double double
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and Nurse does want him to shoot. It's something all
season he had seen it in practice, like MAXI was saying,
and last season they saw it. When he was with Portland,
he had a game against the Celtics Jabari Walker where
he was six for six from three.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So when you see him coming into a Sixers game
and make a couple your eyes open a little bit.
But to know that he made six out of six
in a game just last season, he can. He can
definitely do it.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yes, And it's a very likable group. I have to
say that they like each other. They seem to take
care of each other, and there's a lot of just
like you sharing the story about his mom being an
FBI agent, but the camaraderie of when you are in
that locker room, you see the conversations that they have
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with each other, and it's not all just basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I think the family stuff with Jabari is his maturity level.
When you look and see he's twenty three, he seems
way way older than that.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yes, I would agree, all right, we'll take a break,
we'll come back, we'll continue the conversation. I think I
have something else I'm going to play for you and
get your reaction from earlier in the show. This is
Sixers in sixty on ninety seven five The Fanatic six Ers.
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Com it is sixers and sixty on this Wednesday night
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Sixers coming off a one twenty one one two victory
over the Washington Wizards that was last night and improved
their record to eleven and nine, and next up will
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be the Golden State Warriors tomorrow night at Xfinity Mobile Arena.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
VJ.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Edgecombe scored nine points, so his scoring was a little low,
but I love this guy's stat line from last night
nine points, six rebounds, six assists, two steals, two block
shots and zero turnovers in twenty four minutes of play.
He got to play alongside Jared McCain, which will probably
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increase a little more as time goes on, one because
McCain is getting healthier and two, tyree smax, he's gonna
need some breathers. So here was Jared McCain on being
alongside the rookie.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Oh yeah, it's fire. I mean I love playing with VJ. Good,
great energy.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Being able to have a backcourt, you know, being able
to give Re some minutes on the bench while he's
while he's give him some rest. I think it would
be great so me and VJ back there. It's fun
play on them.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, you see it is.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
He's exciting, and.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
You mentioned giving some minutes on the bench, Like how
much as you guys get healthier, do you feel some
like collective responsibility, like Okay, let's make sure this dude
doesn't play it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Man, sure that we can't.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
We can't be having that. So when we come out
a lot of times it's just like, all.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Right, let's let's get re some rest.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Man.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Even when we come to the bench that he goes
straight to sit down, you know, give him his time
to breathe and the rest. So definitely responsibility, you know,
me VJ. All the guards taken so that we got
to help them.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
He took the league by storm as a rookie last season,
and you have this season the adjusting. I guess where
do you feel like defenses have have game planned for
you the most?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I think I think just knowing that, like knowing certain
moves I like to do. You know, I've done the
same move since high school. I think it's just more
like my strength and being able to get by guys
and use their strength. It's basically the same thing though,
So I think They definitely have game plan and they
know what I can do, but try and just it's
hard to stop. When you get a wide open kN
to shoot three or being able to to shoot, they're
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able to close that on you. You can make a move
by them. So a lot of it is just using
your IQ and just being able to play basketball.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Do you think teams are playing Jared differently or do
you think it's more I think some of it is
his comfort with feeling his knee being okay.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I tend to agree on the ladder because of the
knee race for some time, and then the more recent
injury being the ligament in the shooting thumb and having
to wear something on the hand as well. But it's
hard to ignore what he did in the twenty plus
games as a rookie. I'm sure that he would have
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liked to face Steph Curry in this first Warriors matchup,
who's one of his idols, if not his biggest idol,
And he watched so much Curry film on how to
move off ball, and they're both really fun players to watch. Obviously,
Curry has already been listed out for this game against
the Sixers the first meeting, but McCain because of his
knee injury last year, missed both Warriors games. Unfortunately, he
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also missed his hometown return in Sacramento. He was really
looking forward to playing there. He didn't get to do
that last season. So that's something to watch out for
later in the season for the Sixers and McCain. But
he's fun. They're a fun team. Edgecombe, Maxi, McCain. They
play with so much joy. That something I asked Jared
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about after the game in the walk Cough interview, and
he said, because life is amazing. That's why he plays
with so much joy, and he's going to keep trying
to spread that joy. You can see after he had
a layup in the Washington game where he kind of
like waved his hands. I think part of that was
to the bench on like, no, no, I wasn't gonna
dunk that one. And then there was a sequence with
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Maxi later in the game where Maxie didn't dunk one
because he lost the footing a little bit. He talked
on the break, so he laid it over the rim,
and so Jared and Tyrese both didn't dunk one where
maybe they could have, and Tyrese dunks more than Jared,
but then Tyrese had another crack at it at the
end of the third dunked and they do that raise
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the roof celebration for anybody who gets off the ground
and dunks, particularly guys who don't do it as often.
But the highlight dunk was Edgecombe in the first half
taking off on the right side. It's a little easier
for him with his level of athleticism being like out
of this world, but that that's fun and no Grimes.
So theseas when we talk about Edgecomb with McCain and
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the fire combination as McCain puts it, and Maxi and Grimes,
and it's a good problem to have these these four
guards who are all so capable, and Edgecomb's stats to
fill the stat line like that. It's the poise and
the role of someone who is who should be well
beyond twenty one years old, and in his first season
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he just makes an impact in so many ways. We
know he played with Buddy held on the Bahamas team,
Eric Gordon on the Bahamas team trying to make the Olympics.
They almost did. He was doing that VJ. Edgecombe before
he even played a college game at Baylor. He was
playing with these NBA guys. He was starting for that team,
and they kind of didn't know it seemed what to
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expect from him in the international setting on that veteran
laden team, and he opened their eyes right away. And
Buddy Heield, who's been around the NBA, including here in Philly,
one of five former sixers on this Warrior team this year,
and Melton will make his season debut. As you said
earlier in the show, they didn't know what to expect
from Edgecomb, but Buddy Heel says he has the it factor,
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and I think that speaks volume.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I think you see it.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Plus I think he has like a good sharp head
on his shoulders. Never really seems to get too high
or too low, which.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Is maybe something guys learned years into their NBA career
on how to balance the lifestyle and or the life
of being in the NBA not getting too high or
too low. He had it from even before he was
in the league somehow.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Right, I mean, even listening to Jared saying he was
at the Villanova game the other day and then the
Penn Drexel. Though they said the Drexel game, he said, well,
I went for Penn.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So his one of his former Duke teammates is on Penn.
He's on Penn TJ Power.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But he said that, uh, it's it was just nice
to get out because he's like, I don't really do much,
you know.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And that's and that's what VJ. We've talked about that. Yeah,
he's like, I don't back home.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, I go home. I just go home.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Have you seen the handshakes that Jared has put together.
I didn't even know this was a thing, but apparently,
let me just tell the people a little bit of
the background. So people do these different handshakes and they
put them on TikTok and then you, if you really
like it, you practice it and it becomes your handshake
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with a particular person. Apparently Lebron has a gazillion of them,
and Jared informed us all of that.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I didn't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I can't remember who this last one that he was
practicing with yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Walker who was about yeah, yeah, first segment. Jabari Walker,
who also makes tiktoks, not to the level of followers
that McCain has, but I've seen Jabari Walker on the
court with his mom doing dances after games this season.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
It's a new wave of a new generation. It really is.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I mean, social media never cees this to who amaze
me anymore, because there's there's always something being invented, new, different.
I mean, we knew when Jared came into the league
his level of following on TikTok, so I just thought
that was.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think that stuff's important because it's not VJ. Edgecomb
in particular at twenty one years old, and McCain also,
it's they're so focused in drills, in practice and in
the game. It's in those little in between moments when
we talk about the twenty game mark of an eighty
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two game season, it's finding those moments, whether it's the
pregame handshake line or in between free throws, in those
practice moments that we've seen the smile come out, the
handshakes come out, or just a joke here or there,
just a little bit of dancing from VJ. Edgecomb at
the right times. I think that's really important in a
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long NBA season.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
All Right, I don't want to hit on a few
NBA topics. I gotta do your reaction to the separation.
That's what I'm gonna call it of Chris Paul and
the Clippers parting ways. They had signed him a one
year contract. He said he was going to retire, and
this was back in November. Said at the end of
this year, I'm retiring. I said, I didn't know that
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was breaking news because he's forty years old. But to
have such a falling out with your team, because it
seems like he I know they're struggling and meaning having
lost I think fourteen of sixteen now, but for him
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to not be talking to the coach, which is Toron
lou and to address teammates. I'm not saying you can't
be a teammate that brings stuff up. It just sounded
like he was out of his lane.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It did, and I'm not totally up to speed on
all of it, but it did seem like everything was
such a great reunion at first with Chris Paul. Everyone
was so happy to have.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Him back six years there.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think before and winning and losing it factors in
so much through these things that they have not had
a good season. When they came to Philly, he played
a little bit off the bench in that game, but
they've had injuries, they have some older players and it
just hasn't.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And they lost Bradley Beal for the year.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It just hasn't meshed well, I mean to say the least.
It was an abrupt release. I at first I thought,
because of their history, was it a situation where they
would try to find him the right trade, But for
it to.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Be like trade decide, Oh right, right, I just was.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I was like, oh, they waived him, and but the
statement is that we're going to try to help him
for his next move, and he had just said he
was going to retire at the end of the season.
When what was notable when they came to Philly was
that he and Kyle Lowry are the only two point
guards to ever played twenty seasons. Yea, Kyle's twentieth, Chris's
twenty first, Mike Conley's at nineteen seasons. All those guys,
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it's like you want them on your team kind of thing.
So it's kind of a sad ending.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
To his it's and maybe it won't be the ending,
maybe somebody picks him.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Up at least to his Clippers tenure yet Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Right, but it's not a good end to the Clipper
thing at all. I don't think last night beating the Warriors, nonetheless,
were the Thunder.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
It was their thirteenth or amazing. Shae had thirty eight
and he's.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The only guy that scored more points than Maxi this year.
He's incredible, but he's also rested a ton of fourth
quarters like Maxi got to because.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Their differential is off the charts.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Maxi got to sit the fourth against the Wizards. Shae
gets to sit the fourth all the time because the
Thunder have have been up so big with that point differential,
And as we speak on December third, Shay has seven
hundred and twenty one points to Maxi's six hundred and
forty nine. It's pretty cool that they're the top two,
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both former Kentucky players, but for the defending champce to
only one loss at this point in the season, Portland's
actually played them very well this year. But I think
people should maybe be talking about the Thunder even more
because it's so hard to follow up a run like
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they had, a championship run like they had. But that's
always going to be the debate of small Oklahoma City.
Are they getting enough attention? Well as the season moves
along and the NBA comes into even more focus, they
probably will if they if they keep this up it's
twelve or thirteen in a row, and.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
They are on pace they could break the Warriors record.
They I think it's on pace for seventy three right now.
And now it's a little early for me to be straight.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Get that you have to because you know of what
their record is.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
But it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
The Warriors got a big game as they're coming to Philly.
They got a big game from it. One of their
two way guys against the Thunder who I'm sure a
lot of people have heard his story before, but for
anyone out there who maybe hasn't, Pat Spencer had seventeen
points in this Thunder Warriors game that we're talking about.
And he was a lacrosse player at Loyola Maryland. He
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was the best lacrosse player in around twenty nineteen or so,
and then he went to Northwestern for a year of
basketball and now he's an NBA player.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Oh, he must be an incredible athlete.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Right And he had seventeen points, he had six assists
and zero turnovers against a tough Thunder team.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
So he's a two way guy.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He's on a two way contract.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I wonder if we'll see him because I mean, because
you know how they don't normally send but with the
with Curry not on this, he has a.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Role right now because yeah, because of that, Yeah, all right,
cool two way guy. His brother is Cam Spencer from
the Grizzlies that was on the Yukon championship team, but
Pat's the one that was the lacrosse star there. The
Warriors game notes include a local connection for Pat as
well born in North Wales, Pennsylvania. So he's coming off
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with ty the best game of his career before the
Warriors start their road trip in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's always pretty cool, I think, to see the two
way stories become. It's really a great part of development
in this league, I believe totally. And yeah, and you're
seeing two on the sixers in Dominic and Jabori.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You get fifty games and then well then you contract
can be converted. Yep. So you'll see that later in
the season for a bunch of guys.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yes, all right, we're out of time. Thank you for
always joining us. We appreciate you, and I appreciate Brendan
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Wednesday night off after beating the Wizards.
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Last night one twenty one one two.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It was their twentieth game of the season, so it's
about a fourth a quarter of the eighty two game schedule.
And here are Paul George and Tyrese Maxi assessing the
play through twenty games.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Good, you know, despite agetting injuries and guys in and
out and us having to shift and mode.
Speaker 7 (00:59):
Was good.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
I think now we're we should have some consistency with health,
so you know, hopefully we'll be trending. We got a
nice break coming up. We should come out of that,
you know, training helpward.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think we're getting better. You know, it's a little
difficult guys in, guys out at that's hard crant continuity,
But like I think we've done a good job of
competing every single night. You know, Orlando kicked out behind,
but that just just had to go sometimes in the season.
But we're playing the right way. I think we're competing
stremly harm defensive end. We're trying guys are you know,
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coming and getting their working and then being extremely professional
and we're doing a really good job and you got
to keep building.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
We welcome in Matt Murphy of sixers dot Com at
twenty games in. And obviously it's an easier answer when
you're coming off of victory where pretty much everybody played
well and the only guy that didn't play was Joelle.
So what how would you describe where they are right now?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was going to ask you, and again thanks for
having me as always on six Ers and sixty love
doing the show with you. About if you feel like
twenty games has arrived quickly or in a normal amount
of time.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I don't think quickly, but maybe because of the absence
of people right so, but to see Paul George in
three consecutive games now I feel like it's moving.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But to get to this point, no.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
True from a continuity standpoint. Maybe if it was the
same starting group every night, it would feel like we
zoomed to the twenty game mark, but because there have
been different lineups. Although last season was when we really
saw a variety of starting lineups, with new players even
joining the team and getting starts as the injuries piled up,
this year it's just a matter of which key players
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are out on which Knights, and who's when they're in,
they're usually starting, so they're trying to build up as
much chemistry as they can. But to me it seems
a little bit quick. I don't know. And the fact
that Maxi has played twenty all twenty games, yep, and
he's just been unbelievable sensational. I mean, six hundred and
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forty nine points and one hundred and fifty assists in
the twenty games, and that puts him as just the
fifth player in NBA history to put up at least
six hundred and forty points. So he's at six forty
nine and one hundred and fifty assist in the first
twenty games of a season. The other four are Luka Doncic,
James Harden Iverson, and Tiny Archibald. So he's keeping good company, yeah,
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very good company. And I think the turnover games we
notice them more. I'm picking Maxie out specifically here when
we talk about the twenty game mark, because he's played
all twenty. We talk about games where he has uncharacteristic turnovers,
but he's really kept them down over all. If you
look at others stars. Last night, he bounced back tremendously well,
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and he's just awesome. I mean the shooting, the driving.
I said to Tom McGinnis in our postgame show that
some of these layups you just wonder how they go
in through the defense, up and under taller players, but
he's so good with the angles there, and it's just
that dual threat of being able to step back at
any time and hit the threes. And the stats that
he's piled up are are the top story for me
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through twenty games. And then the break that we just
heard Paul George mentioned because of the NBA Cup. Once
you get through this upcoming stretch of Golden State and
somehow Milwaukee on the second night of a back to
back at their place again on Friday, and then the
big game against the Lakers, a Sunday night showdown at
Xfinity Mobile Arena, a seven to thirty game. After that,
that's when the two games were added for the Cup,
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and that's the break that Paul George is talking about
for anyone out there who might not know it'll be
two games in eleven days because the game on the
nineteenth against the Knicks was already on the schedule. But
it's the twelfth at home against Indiana, who is banged
up and having a rough season. And then you see
the Hawks again, who you just had that crazy double
overtime game with. That'll be in Atlanta on Sunday the fourteenth,
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and it got moved to six o'clock. But other than that,
it's just those two games and a lot of practice
days for Nick Nurse and the Sixers after you get
through the Lakers game.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
That's very beneficial for people like Paul George. I would
even say Andre Drummond because Drums had to do some
heavy lifting with Joel out and Bona had been out.
But he's back, and for him, after I saw him
go down in that Brooklyn game, I was so couldn't
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believe that he was back in the lineup the next one.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Because the games, it's so important, the games that Joel
doesn't play to have options and not have to maybe
have the backup position at center be filled by a
small ball lineup. So when a Den Bona, his stat
line doesn't even come close to evers like representing his
impact because to me, he's kind of like VJ. Edgecomb's
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and and this is in practice and in the games.
They both just bring such a competitive but fun energy yep.
And I think you see that with Adem coming back
to the lineup. Drummond is more of a quieter veteran presence,
but you need his presence as a center, and you
need Bona as the true other center, I think in
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the non embiid games, so just the rim protection, the size.
It's great that Drummond was able to you know, only
miss essentially like a half of play after two halves
if you count the game that he got injured in,
but over to multiple games. So best one of the
best case scenarios there. And AdeM's energy has just been
really good. Him and Jerry being the same draft class.
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They just have they inject the youth into this team
along with with VJ and just a fun team to watch.
I think Drummond is having a resurgence season alongside being
motivated by by some of these younger guys too. And
also such a good leader with them as well with
guys like them.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And Nick Nurse said it a couple days ago. I
mean he challenged him, you know you're a dem was
going to be in front of him in terms of
the depth chart if you will, if if you came
back as the same guy as a year ago. And
I love that he responded to that. I have two
guys that I say to myself, you know, Dominic Barlow
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and Jabari Walker, Like if you had asked me in
the off season, who are they guys?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Right? Right?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
They could have been in Delaware for all we know.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Right, and here they are. One is in the starting lineup.
And what Jabar gave yesterday with the double double. And
actually want I want you to hear what they talked
about Jabari and how they describe him. If Brendan gunn
can tee up my Walker, sound please? Jabari Walker who
had ten points and twelve rebounds, nine at the defensive
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end against those Wizards yesterday and he did it all
in twenty four minutes.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Smarty man, he's just a bully, so so strong. You know,
he's kind of glue guy, does a little bit of everything.
He spreads through the floor guards, rebounds. You know, he's
just he does so many, so much the little dirty work.
And you know he's said the tough enforcers, he's the
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bully force out there. So very valuable, very valuable.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
To have on us.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's really this night, rebinded well, he defended well, makes
some threes. He's a pretty good shooter, so he's not
pumped peking three. So he does even job.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Is that something that you've been like, just take that shot.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I just wanted to shoot. I see him shooting camp
and every day he makes every training camp like training
camp practice.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He made every three.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So I'm like, dude, you get to you know, shoot
it shooting. You got you made every three in training
camp practice, so you got the leeway. The shooting nurse
wants you to shoot, and the nurse wants you to
sho you gotta.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Shoot him, you know, and you co chest your shoot.
You gotta shoot it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I can add on to that a little bit. McCain
called him tenacious, which he self proclaimed. Jared McCain then
said that's a good word to use, and he was
the one who used it about Jabari Walker. He when
we sit there at the Games, you and I sit
near each other. You can hear Jabari Walker rebounding the
ball more than most guys like Drummond, who we were
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just talking about. It's kind of like smooth his rebounds,
like he's so tall. He just grabbed Jabbari like slams
it with two hands, and you can hear him slap
the ball. And he recently spoke about playing angry, how
sometimes he plays too happy and he has to play angry.
I love that. I mean, he's a guy that was
you know, he knows the NBA life from his father
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being Samaki Walker. His mother was an FBI agent and
he could never talk about that. Early in his career
when they would ask like what does your mom do?
He can never specifically say, I guess, and then she retired.
So he's really fun to hear to listen to when
he speaks, and then when they speak about him, it's
great like what we just heard and McCain calling him
tenacious and he played angry to have that double double
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and Nurse does want him to shoot. It's something all
season he had seen it in practice, like MAXI was saying,
and last season they saw it. When he was with Portland,
he had a game against the Celtics Jabari Walker where
he was six for six from three.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So when you see him coming into a Sixers game
and make a couple your eyes open a little bit.
But to know that he made six out of six
in a game just last season, he can. He can
definitely do it.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yes, And it's a very likable group. I have to
say that they like each other. They seem to take
care of each other, and there's a lot of just
like you sharing the story about his mom being an
FBI agent, but the camaraderie of when you are in
that locker room, you see the conversations that they have
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with each other, and it's not all just basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I think the family stuff with Jabari is his maturity level.
When you look and see he's twenty three, he seems
way way older than that.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yes, I would agree, all right, we'll take a break,
we'll come back, we'll continue the conversation. I think I
have something else I'm going to play for you and
get your reaction from earlier in the show. This is
Sixers in sixty on ninety seven five The Fanatic six Ers.
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Com it is sixers and sixty on this Wednesday night
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Sixers coming off a one twenty one one two victory
over the Washington Wizards that was last night and improved
their record to eleven and nine, and next up will
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be the Golden State Warriors tomorrow night at Xfinity Mobile Arena.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
VJ.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Edgecombe scored nine points, so his scoring was a little low,
but I love this guy's stat line from last night
nine points, six rebounds, six assists, two steals, two block
shots and zero turnovers in twenty four minutes of play.
He got to play alongside Jared McCain, which will probably
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increase a little more as time goes on, one because
McCain is getting healthier and two, tyree smax, he's gonna
need some breathers. So here was Jared McCain on being
alongside the rookie.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
Oh yeah, it's fire. I mean I love playing with VJ. Good,
great energy.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
Being able to have a backcourt, you know, being able
to give Re some minutes on the bench while he's
while he's give him some rest. I think it would
be great so me and VJ back there. It's fun
play on them.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, you see it is.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
He's exciting, and.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
You mentioned giving some minutes on the bench, Like how
much as you guys get healthier, do you feel some
like collective responsibility, like Okay, let's make sure this dude
doesn't play it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Man, sure that we can't.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
We can't be having that. So when we come out
a lot of times it's just like, all.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Right, let's let's get re some rest.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Man.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Even when we come to the bench that he goes
straight to sit down, you know, give him his time
to breathe and the rest. So definitely responsibility, you know,
me VJ. All the guards taken so that we got
to help them.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
He took the league by storm as a rookie last season,
and you have this season the adjusting. I guess where
do you feel like defenses have have game planned for
you the most?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I think I think just knowing that, like knowing certain
moves I like to do. You know, I've done the
same move since high school. I think it's just more
like my strength and being able to get by guys
and use their strength. It's basically the same thing though,
So I think They definitely have game plan and they
know what I can do, but try and just it's
hard to stop. When you get a wide open kN
to shoot three or being able to to shoot, they're
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able to close that on you. You can make a move
by them. So a lot of it is just using
your IQ and just being able to play basketball.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Do you think teams are playing Jared differently or do
you think it's more I think some of it is
his comfort with feeling his knee being okay.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I tend to agree on the ladder because of the
knee race for some time, and then the more recent
injury being the ligament in the shooting thumb and having
to wear something on the hand as well. But it's
hard to ignore what he did in the twenty plus
games as a rookie. I'm sure that he would have
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liked to face Steph Curry in this first Warriors matchup,
who's one of his idols, if not his biggest idol,
And he watched so much Curry film on how to
move off ball, and they're both really fun players to watch. Obviously,
Curry has already been listed out for this game against
the Sixers the first meeting, but McCain because of his
knee injury last year, missed both Warriors games. Unfortunately, he
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also missed his hometown return in Sacramento. He was really
looking forward to playing there. He didn't get to do
that last season. So that's something to watch out for
later in the season for the Sixers and McCain. But
he's fun. They're a fun team. Edgecombe, Maxi, McCain. They
play with so much joy. That something I asked Jared
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about after the game in the walk Cough interview, and
he said, because life is amazing. That's why he plays
with so much joy, and he's going to keep trying
to spread that joy. You can see after he had
a layup in the Washington game where he kind of
like waved his hands. I think part of that was
to the bench on like, no, no, I wasn't gonna
dunk that one. And then there was a sequence with
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Maxi later in the game where Maxie didn't dunk one
because he lost the footing a little bit. He talked
on the break, so he laid it over the rim,
and so Jared and Tyrese both didn't dunk one where
maybe they could have, and Tyrese dunks more than Jared,
but then Tyrese had another crack at it at the
end of the third dunked and they do that raise
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the roof celebration for anybody who gets off the ground
and dunks, particularly guys who don't do it as often.
But the highlight dunk was Edgecombe in the first half
taking off on the right side. It's a little easier
for him with his level of athleticism being like out
of this world, but that that's fun and no Grimes.
So theseas when we talk about Edgecomb with McCain and
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the fire combination as McCain puts it, and Maxi and Grimes,
and it's a good problem to have these these four
guards who are all so capable, and Edgecomb's stats to
fill the stat line like that. It's the poise and
the role of someone who is who should be well
beyond twenty one years old, and in his first season
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he just makes an impact in so many ways. We
know he played with Buddy held on the Bahamas team,
Eric Gordon on the Bahamas team trying to make the Olympics.
They almost did. He was doing that VJ. Edgecombe before
he even played a college game at Baylor. He was
playing with these NBA guys. He was starting for that team,
and they kind of didn't know it seemed what to
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expect from him in the international setting on that veteran
laden team, and he opened their eyes right away. And
Buddy Heield, who's been around the NBA, including here in Philly,
one of five former sixers on this Warrior team this year,
and Melton will make his season debut. As you said
earlier in the show, they didn't know what to expect
from Edgecomb, but Buddy Heel says he has the it factor,
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and I think that speaks volume.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I think you see it.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Plus I think he has like a good sharp head
on his shoulders. Never really seems to get too high
or too low, which.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Is maybe something guys learned years into their NBA career
on how to balance the lifestyle and or the life
of being in the NBA not getting too high or
too low. He had it from even before he was
in the league somehow.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Right, I mean, even listening to Jared saying he was
at the Villanova game the other day and then the
Penn Drexel. Though they said the Drexel game, he said, well,
I went for Penn.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So his one of his former Duke teammates is on Penn.
He's on Penn TJ Power.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But he said that, uh, it's it was just nice
to get out because he's like, I don't really do much,
you know.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And that's and that's what VJ. We've talked about that. Yeah,
he's like, I don't back home.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, I go home. I just go home.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Have you seen the handshakes that Jared has put together.
I didn't even know this was a thing, but apparently,
let me just tell the people a little bit of
the background. So people do these different handshakes and they
put them on TikTok and then you, if you really
like it, you practice it and it becomes your handshake
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with a particular person. Apparently Lebron has a gazillion of them,
and Jared informed us all of that.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I didn't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I can't remember who this last one that he was
practicing with yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Walker who was about yeah, yeah, first segment. Jabari Walker,
who also makes tiktoks, not to the level of followers
that McCain has, but I've seen Jabari Walker on the
court with his mom doing dances after games this season.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
It's a new wave of a new generation. It really is.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I mean, social media never cees this to who amaze
me anymore, because there's there's always something being invented, new, different.
I mean, we knew when Jared came into the league
his level of following on TikTok, so I just thought
that was.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think that stuff's important because it's not VJ. Edgecomb
in particular at twenty one years old, and McCain also,
it's they're so focused in drills, in practice and in
the game. It's in those little in between moments when
we talk about the twenty game mark of an eighty
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two game season, it's finding those moments, whether it's the
pregame handshake line or in between free throws, in those
practice moments that we've seen the smile come out, the
handshakes come out, or just a joke here or there,
just a little bit of dancing from VJ. Edgecomb at
the right times. I think that's really important in a
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long NBA season.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
All Right, I don't want to hit on a few
NBA topics. I gotta do your reaction to the separation.
That's what I'm gonna call it of Chris Paul and
the Clippers parting ways. They had signed him a one
year contract. He said he was going to retire, and
this was back in November. Said at the end of
this year, I'm retiring. I said, I didn't know that
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was breaking news because he's forty years old. But to
have such a falling out with your team, because it
seems like he I know they're struggling and meaning having
lost I think fourteen of sixteen now, but for him
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to not be talking to the coach, which is Toron
lou and to address teammates. I'm not saying you can't
be a teammate that brings stuff up. It just sounded
like he was out of his lane.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It did, and I'm not totally up to speed on
all of it, but it did seem like everything was
such a great reunion at first with Chris Paul. Everyone
was so happy to have.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Him back six years there.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I think before and winning and losing it factors in
so much through these things that they have not had
a good season. When they came to Philly, he played
a little bit off the bench in that game, but
they've had injuries, they have some older players and it
just hasn't.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And they lost Bradley Beal for the year.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
It just hasn't meshed well, I mean to say the least.
It was an abrupt release. I at first I thought,
because of their history, was it a situation where they
would try to find him the right trade, But for
it to.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Be like trade decide, Oh right, right, I just was.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I was like, oh, they waived him, and but the
statement is that we're going to try to help him
for his next move, and he had just said he
was going to retire at the end of the season.
When what was notable when they came to Philly was
that he and Kyle Lowry are the only two point
guards to ever played twenty seasons. Yea, Kyle's twentieth, Chris's
twenty first, Mike Conley's at nineteen seasons. All those guys,
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it's like you want them on your team kind of thing.
So it's kind of a sad ending.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
To his it's and maybe it won't be the ending,
maybe somebody picks him.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Up at least to his Clippers tenure yet Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Right, but it's not a good end to the Clipper
thing at all. I don't think last night beating the Warriors, nonetheless,
were the Thunder.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
It was their thirteenth or amazing. Shae had thirty eight
and he's.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The only guy that scored more points than Maxi this year.
He's incredible, but he's also rested a ton of fourth
quarters like Maxi got to because.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Their differential is off the charts.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Maxi got to sit the fourth against the Wizards. Shae
gets to sit the fourth all the time because the
Thunder have have been up so big with that point differential,
And as we speak on December third, Shay has seven
hundred and twenty one points to Maxi's six hundred and
forty nine. It's pretty cool that they're the top two,
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both former Kentucky players, but for the defending champce to
only one loss at this point in the season, Portland's
actually played them very well this year. But I think
people should maybe be talking about the Thunder even more
because it's so hard to follow up a run like
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they had, a championship run like they had. But that's
always going to be the debate of small Oklahoma City.
Are they getting enough attention? Well as the season moves
along and the NBA comes into even more focus, they
probably will if they if they keep this up it's
twelve or thirteen in a row, and.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
They are on pace they could break the Warriors record.
They I think it's on pace for seventy three right now.
And now it's a little early for me to be straight.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Get that you have to because you know of what
their record is.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
But it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
The Warriors got a big game as they're coming to Philly.
They got a big game from it. One of their
two way guys against the Thunder who I'm sure a
lot of people have heard his story before, but for
anyone out there who maybe hasn't, Pat Spencer had seventeen
points in this Thunder Warriors game that we're talking about.
And he was a lacrosse player at Loyola Maryland. He
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was the best lacrosse player in around twenty nineteen or so,
and then he went to Northwestern for a year of
basketball and now he's an NBA player.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Oh, he must be an incredible athlete.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Right And he had seventeen points, he had six assists
and zero turnovers against a tough Thunder team.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
So he's a two way guy.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He's on a two way contract.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I wonder if we'll see him because I mean, because
you know how they don't normally send but with the
with Curry not on this, he has a.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Role right now because yeah, because of that, Yeah, all right,
cool two way guy. His brother is Cam Spencer from
the Grizzlies that was on the Yukon championship team, but
Pat's the one that was the lacrosse star there. The
Warriors game notes include a local connection for Pat as
well born in North Wales, Pennsylvania. So he's coming off
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with ty the best game of his career before the
Warriors start their road trip in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's always pretty cool, I think, to see the two
way stories become. It's really a great part of development
in this league, I believe totally. And yeah, and you're
seeing two on the sixers in Dominic and Jabori.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You get fifty games and then well then you contract
can be converted. Yep. So you'll see that later in
the season for a bunch of guys.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yes, all right, we're out of time. Thank you for
always joining us. We appreciate you, and I appreciate Brendan
Gunn as well. The way to go Gunner sixers and
sixty on Wednesdays. We might move a few to Tuesday
around the holidays, that's the only thing. But we will
always be here and right now we're out of time,
so we'll see you tomorrow for sixers all access before
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the Warriors game right here on ninety seven to five
of the fanatic the
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