February 15, 2018 • 35 mins
This week Matty talks to Robin Shuter from the podcast The Royal Wedding! They talk about his start in PR to the celebrities, how the world has changed with reality shows and celebrity shows, all about the upcoming Royal Wedding, and find out who Rob would want to hear a podcast from living or dead in our 3 Killer Questions round!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, It's Mattie from Access Podcast, the podcast about podcast Z.
My voice is a little kind. Yeah, yeah, I'm going
through the change. When it's time to change. You got
to You don't know that Brady Bunch. Gosh, I'm so old.
Well I'll tell you somebody who who would get my jokes.
It's it's Rob Shooter. We luckily when we did the interview,
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I had a voice. Um. If you don't know who
Rob is, he is a gossip guy from Naughty Gossip.
He does the Wendy Williams Show all the Time, that
Today's Show, Good Day New York, the Elvis Durant Show.
He's the guy with the awesome English accent. Anyway, he's
coming up next on the show, but it's check him
out right now. From his new podcast, The Royal Wedding,
Megan muchles half brother insists that his children should not
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should not be invited to the Royal wedding because they
have not seen her since they were children. So the
brothers coming forward here, the half brother and really saying it,
although everybody wants to go to this wedding, goodness en
as we do. I do that her family, her distance family,
I guess should not be invite, So rather before we
start talking about the wedding, I'm I'm interested to talk
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about you and you and you know you've devoted most
of your life to celebrity and talking about celebrities and
and I just wonder what was the first, you know,
like piece of celebrity gossip that you remember seeing and going, God,
this is really hard. It's even deeper than that. I
can remember being in the playground when I was six
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or seven and Craig Smith was caught kissing this girl
behind the bike shared and I told everybody at school,
and I was the most popular person in the whole class.
I learned, I really learned at an early age to
be nosy. I'm just nosy person, and I love people
telling this stuff. And I don't know why they do,
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because it's painfully obvious. I'm going to tell everybody else.
But I experienced gossip at a really early age. And
I think sometimes people think with the word gossip they
think of bad things or or it's a little bit
sleazy or a little bit naughty. I don't know. In
my family, around the table, gossip and chalk and chatter
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and laughs about family members and friends was what we did.
So I grew up in a household where to gossip
was sort of a positive thing. It meant, it meant
we cared about each other, It meant that we wanted
to know what everybody was up to. It wasn't a
bad thing. It's it's sort of like a different angle,
a different way of looking at gossip. I grew up
in a world where chatting about people it didn't have
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to be me, and like gossip doesn't always have to
be be me, And so I grew up in a
world where we're gossiping and talking was sort of a
good thing to do, you know. And I think that's
one of the reasons I think people do trust you
is that, you know, you came from a world of
being a publicist where you're putting out, you know, kind
of what people you want people to think about somebody
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to gossip to. It's it's it's like you said it
as this connotation, but the way you do what you
do this naughty but nice kind of It's I like
to say that my website, Naughty gossip dot Com is
a pinch. It's not a punch. It's really easy when
I think about it, when I go out for dinner
with my friends. My really mean friends are so interesting
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and so fascinating, and I sit there gasping at all
the mean things they say. But when I get home,
I need to have a shower. Now. My nice friends
are awfully nice, but they're a little bit dull, and
so if I can be in the middle, if I
could be naughty but life, then I think I've sort
of hit my sweet spot. And by nature and an optimist,
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I like people, I like celebrities. I'm not a mean girl.
I'm not I'm not sitting there thinking of mean things
to say. I think it's just as interesting, if not
more so, if you've got engaged, or you fell in love,
or you met somebody really cute. That to me is
just as interesting as a breakup or a divorce or
something a little bit more more tragic. But you're right.
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For years and earth, I worked with Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Simpson,
Alicia Keys bon Jovi, But the one that I learned
the most from was PDD. Puffy was a client of
mine for many, many years, and I say this is love.
I worked for Puffy, he paid me. I don't really
know what he does like he's deelish, but I don't really.
I think he sells t shirts. I sort of think
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he has a vodka. But what he does do better
than anybody else is he makes the world more interesting
and more exciting. And he's he's our generations Barnum Like
he just puts on a show. He's a he's a
ring master. He's in the middle of the circus in
a red coat, waving his arms and even changing his name,
his name Sean. You know, I called him Sean, and
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so I learned from him how to have fun and
tell tales and have an exciting sort of life. And
so I really thank Puffy from that, and that's how
I really got into the business of being a celebrity
gossip columnist. I do think it's people's nature to be
to enjoy self righteous indignation, you know, where we love
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to be like, oh, I'm so indignant, and the Internet
has just made it more so, it has it has.
But I think I'm a big believer in gentle hate like.
I don't like that. I like gentle hate like and
it always makes me laugh, Like this morning, before talking
to you, I just did the Wendy william Show, and
I work up with this huge sort of cold stare
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on the side of my map, this massive thing to say.
And but the show had to go on, and the
people in the makeup room had gentle hate and it
made me laugh, like I can laugh at my own
flaws and imperfections. I think too. Everybody asked me where
do I get gossip? Where do I find it? And
to be honest, my best sources are reporters at The
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New York Times, are at ABC or at my Heart radio,
or I'm just allowed to print stuff that you might
only say or my only whisper. And so I think
it as journalism. I know that's going to annoy people
and sound nothing but the same effort that goes into
reporting a story at ABC or NBC. I make that
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effort with celebrities. I call sources, I call restaurants, I
have backup um and I got over there being in
the celebrity world for as long as I was as
a publicist, I had access to stuff that celebrity columnists
never gets, like. I've been backstage at the Oscars and
the Golden Globes. I've been there when j Loo's shoes
didn't fit. I've been there at photo shoots for the
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cover of Vogue and Vanity Fair, and so I was
lucky to have access for all those years to these
amazing places, and that's really paid off now with the
with the quality in the tyber gossip I get. You know,
my very first producing job was for g Gordon Liddy, Like, oh, well,
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that's the thing. I have a couple of things that
I really know I can't say, and so he's dead.
He's dead. I'm going to let him out. I mean,
I know some deep ship on this. Do you think
the culture has changed a little bit? Maybe the Housewives
or the Kardashians have done this. I feel bad now
for the old school celebrities like the Julia Roberts and
the Cameron Diaces, who we just don't really care about
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it anymore. Like I want the Real Housewives, I want
nine leak snatching a wig. I want the Kardashians, you know,
causing mischief. I think the world has really changed with
sort of like reality shows and celebrity shows, and the
old days of these really sort of like a list
celebrities have sort of gone like I would rather, gosh,
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this sounds terrible. I get more hits on a sort
of interesting story about a Kardashian than I would on
a great story about George Clooney. People want to know
about these reality stars amazing. I guess the point too,
I was going to ask you, was, I mean, do
you still have those stories that you know you can't
tell or is it to the point where everybody just
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knows everything's gonna get told, so there's no point keeping
it in. Well, it's interesting as as a as a
publicist when when something terrible and to a client, whether
it be involved in in illegal drugs or sex or stuff,
they that would that would get out. It's going to
get out. So as a publicist, I would give it
with my client's permission to a friendly outlet. I'd rather
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appear in a place where that that that would frame
it in a way that would be kind and gentle.
Then it breaks in as a real hard news story.
So often people call me with stuff that it's going
to get out. So rather do it on laudy Gossip
than on some other site that's not going to handle
it quite as quite as kind as I had. But
I do have stories, like you know, my husband's a songwriter.
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I've been married to Bruce for years and he wrote
a lot of the Barry Man of those songs, like
you know Barry came out the closet recently on the
cover of People magazine. I've known that for but but
for twenty years I didn't say a word like So
there's stuff that I know. It's also true whenever I
go to a TV show, I do that Today Show
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and Wendy Williams, anything that happens in a green room
I won't report on. So I've seen celebrities, a real
A list superstar celebrity haven't melt down and melt down
in the green room over a very very innocent question
that was going to be asked for her, And ultimately
she walked off the show that that was delicious, and
I sat there in the corner absorbing it all. But
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I never reported it because I was invited into the house.
I was invited into that living room, I was invited
into that family. And so there's places like that that
I'm I'm careful about. Yeah, And I also I don't
I don't act people. There's a couple of gay celebrities
now who have not come out, not of the older generation,
but you know, in their twenties. I know I know
at least one, maybe two singers at the moment who
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are struggling with it. I'm not going to act them.
I know two health stories at the moment, one involving
a major British star that I'm not gonna do something. Yeah,
I'm careful about it. I think what makes me for
good is that for as much aside Prince I, there's
there's there's another fifty percent that I don't do you
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think that celebrity is now vying for attention from the
reality show we call the Trump Presidency. Yeah, well, Trump's
sort of like a I don't say a symptom, but
Trump's reflection maybe of what's going on in America and
around the world. Like Trump is now an example how
celebrities really really powerful and knowing people and think we
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knowing them. I think a lot of people think they
know Donald because of the Celebrity Apprentice. What they don't
know is that that was a set set up in
Trump Tower on the twentieth floor. That's not his boardroom,
it's not his office, it's not his assistant. I guess
it's his children. But but like but but it was
little Like I said, I've been into his apartment. I
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went there to interview Milania when she had a jewelry collection.
And you walk in or you get in the elevator,
you walk up the elevator and there's these two massive
gold doors, um and they open the doors, and the
first floor of the apartment it's a set. There's light
in the ceiling like on a on a movie set.
And they also have a fountain in the living room,
this big fountain. And when I left, I heard them
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flick the switch that the fountory went off. So it's
a it's all like the whole thing is set up
for television. TV is really really powerful, whatever your politics are.
You know, there's no doubt that he's, you know, the
star who knows how to be. He knows how to
make things about himself. And there's a gossip columnists, you know,
that's that's delicious. I think that for yours. There's been
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stories about Donald's when he was a celebrity league in
stuff to the press and the papers, and he knows
how to He knows all the columnists, he knows them
all by name. He knows phone numbers and our emails,
like Donald Donald knows how to how to work the media.
Now I like to check out the rags all over,
so I check out the British rags, and he knows
a lot of coverage on the Trump presidency and and
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and then on the flip side, you know, to kind
of uh, you know, he's into this Royal wedding podcast.
You know, Americans are obsessed with English everything. I was
I was thinking about this this weekend. I was watching Victoria.
I was reading about the Napoleonic Wars from the perspective
of an English captain. And you know, Eddie Izard had
this line where he goes, well, I'm from England, That's
where the history comes from. And it's true, we are
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obsessed with English everything. That is. I don't know. I
do know that I've benefited from it. I know that
here now. Honestly, I'm really not that smart and I'm
not very interesting, but having this accents makes me sound
like Mary Poppins. I can always murder who in Britain
people would have told me to shut up years ago.
If you went to London, you would be a sensation
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with your adorable accents. It's just I don't know. Being
a Britain in New York in America has certainly helped me.
I think that I think that we have to really
credit the Royal Family for this. It's it's the first
reality family of all time, and they're awfully good at
have package in it and and given a storylines. And
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so maybe you know, there is they hate me for
saying that they're the original Kardashians, like the Royal Family
just have have sort of really set up a way
to be really digen It's hardly interested in sixty million
people are in America over three million. It's always the one.
It's a one story. And so what the Brits have
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done with the Royal family is tell the story of
a nation through five or six characters. It's like a
soap opera. And so now that Megan has married into
that family, we have another character. And so I think,
I think part partly that's why people are so obsessed
with Britain. And there was a time many many years
ago when Britain, you know, sort of ran the world.
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So I think we all somehow have a linkage back
to the Motherland or you know, I mean, we all
have a relative or a distance relative, or a very
distant relative that might have been British at some point
my friend's joke, there's so many Brits now in New York.
It's like we're getting the colony back. Like I feel
like I should wear a red coat to walk around,
Like I feel like I would say that America, but
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that they're They're awfully kind, and I think America's in America.
Ricans in London are really welcome if you ever travel
to Britain as an American. The Britas love Americans. We
love American TV, we love American films, we love American
food in the same way that there's some difference towards
Britain in in America. In Britain, we love the Americans.
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I'm now, I now want to either start a podcast
or ready book called the Plantagenets the Original Kardashians. They
really really well. I die with dit An Abbey and
all these other shows that are so successful. Oh please,
I could be nothing but great for my career. I
hope more more more royals get married, and then after
the way that I'm sure I'll have a podcast on
the babies, and then hopefully not, but maybe there'll be
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a divorce podcast. Like you never it, let's talk about that.
So you know, I'm a I'm a podcast nerd. I
left morning shows ten years ago to get into starting
an app called Stitcher and been in podcasting ever since.
And now back with I Heart and I was when
they got the when we got I got email about
your podcast. I was like, Ah, this is the kind
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of podcast that I want to see more of because
I think that the world podcasting evolves and we're finding
you know that it's going from being these NPR podcasts.
He's really well produced and what you're wonderful to, you know,
podcast more than the everyday person wants to. Like you
say about the scrappy podcast, I'm not saying that, I'm
saying that. I'm saying that it's more mainstream. I think
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to hear your flaws. They want to hear everything they want.
They want now to to hear you pick your notes.
They want to hear you missproducial words. I think people
listen to podcasts and all media now as if we're
their friends, and I'd love to be. It's it's fun
to communicate in a way that's really authentic, that you
don't have to be too fancy, you don't have to
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pretend to be Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer anymore. I'm
friends with Holder, who's just been um Announswers a co
anchor of the Today Show, What hold of successes? Apart
from the fact that she's brilliants, so she's authentic, that
really is who she is. So when you see her
on camera on the morning show or you go for
dinner with her, that's that's hold up. And I think
that people mag and smellophony. And that's what's so delicious
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about the Successful podcast is that I think they really
capture the truth. You know, you had I read a
quote from you. It said and you said, the amount
of effort in time people have spend trying to cover
something up, even their own personalities, is ridiculous. Just find
the truth, and yeah I did. It's it's it's easy
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to talk in soundbites on TV for two or three minutes,
but to see I was terrified when I was offered
this job to do this podcast. I was terrified of
sitting there for half an hour. So twenty is half
an hour and rattling on and on and on, and
like the accent is good for five minutes, but come on,
it's just Ania and so I just it was like,
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what am I gonna say. And then once I got
past myself and just started to sit there and enjoy it,
I was like, I can go to a bar tonight
with a friend or or a new a new friend,
And like I said, there were hours and talk. So
why am I worries about half an hour? I think
that's the way you should go into this. Like it's
I pretend I'm sitting there. Maybe I don't put them,
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but with a glass of wide I sit there and
I talk and talk and I find all the great
news of the week and all the breaking stuff out
of London. And then I think what we've done too
is we found some really interesting guests to come on
and tell us the real dish at this. This amazing
royal expert Nicki Gostin Australian, she came on and she
went there like she talked about sex before marriage, had
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Harry and Megan dune the deed, which in the Royal
family is quite shocking. You're not really meant to do it.
But Nikki was hilarious and it was a really really
fun episode. This week's episode, there was a rumor that
the Cake Boss Buddy the Cake Boss, was going to
make the Royal cake. So we slept out to his studio.
We went out to the bakery and we walked. Did
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we were invited, we did just like completely sort of darted,
but we will did. He was in the kitchen and
he came and talked with us about the royal cake
and he didn't deny it, but he didn't confirm it.
But then he told us about if he did get
to do the cake, what he would do and how
he would get it there. Could you FedEx the cake
to London or does he have to go and bake
it that. I think people are really interesting in life,
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not just some podcast listeners. Really listen to this, because
in life, if you think somebody is a bit dull
or they don't talk very much, is because you haven't
found the subject that they want to talk about. And
everybody wants to talk, even quiet people, when you find
the subject, and nine times out of ten, it's what
they do for a living. People love to talk about
what they do for a living. You could follow anybody
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around with a with a camera and make a documentary.
I think I think he could. There's a story within everybody.
And and when I first you know, you know, looking
at this podcast like how they can do a podcast
about this every week and you know, a gossip and
what's going to happen And it comes down though to
to the host and and this is where your skill
as a true interviewer comes out and making it a
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conversation and not just you know, you know, you know,
like you said, sound by TV stuff, and the conversations
you have on this podcast are fascinating. People talk to me,
I'm shocked me. That's my questions that I think I
get away with it because the accident. I asked them,
if you don't you do your personalities, why you get
away with it? You just said it. The accent gets sold.
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Although I did hear when you said it's twenty minutes
and you're done with my accents. I did say when
you said Sean from when you're talking about well, if
everybody said it the way you said, if you'd be
very happy to be called Sean all the time as
you're recorded for every shot out there. But if you write,
if you talk to people and ask them questions, and
then if you're smart enough to just shut up and
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let them talk, they will tell you everything. They really
will tell you everything. In my PR days, we used
to always know who you were by finding out who
you hate it And I think that's true in real life.
Who do you hate and that's who you are, so
you know if Bonto hates Bruce Springsteen, did he hate
jay Z, Jaylo and Mariah? But I think it's really
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interesting in life if you figure out who people like
and who they hate. It's such a reflection. So I
use a lot of my PR tricks on people. I
try to shut up and let them talk. Everybody has
a story. I try to ask them cheeky questions and
I asked, I think the stuff we want to know,
like I mean, I do want to know about the
royals and sex. I do want to know like if
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Kate and Mega Markle are friendly of not and not
so friendly. I do want to know what it's like
to leave your country, which she did. She lost, left
her friends and her family, went to a palace, which
can be quite a lonely place. There's not there's not
a lot of people in that palace to be that
friendly to you. And now I love the little details
a royal source of man in Britain come with. The
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big test was when she met the Queen if the
core gives liked Mega, and so if Mega the Court
of the Dogs, and I was like, my god, that
is so true. And I've had friends who my dogs
don't like and I'm not friends at the mony. The
dog doesn't like you, there's something really wrong with you exactly.
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So I think it's applying all those things from our
lives to theirs. That makes hopefully half an hour of
interesting chatter that people can can sign up to in
the sun lots of gossip. Is there anything shocking that's
coming up on the podcast that think? Yeah? I mean,
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I mean you and I are you know, we're just talking.
There's some really light food questions about protocol, what what what?
What she will wear? You know, she's divorced, she's a
divorcing so will she wear white? Probably the off white
who's going to perform at the wedding. He's really good
friends with Ed Sheering. Will he be there? Elton John
has already taken a couple of days off his schedule.
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We noticed that just so happened to coincide with the wedding.
What will happen after the wedding? What's going to be
her role? She's she an amazing human being and she's
TV ready because she's been on televisions for so many
years that maybe her slickness is a little annoying to
some of the Brits. Will they at the minute they
love her, but it's it's it's the Megan miracle. At
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the moment, she's everywhere. How must that be affecting Kate Middleton,
who's the star of that family. Kate's are bossy boots
and so Kate runs that royal family. The Queen's favorite
is William. So if William likes you, everything is fine.
So I think just watching this this old traditional family
try really hard to adapt and make missteps. It's delicious
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to watch them. Man, it's so nice that they're trying
so hard. So there's tons of stuff and every day
and there's another question like royal men, this get this.
Royal men traditionally don't wear a wedding ring. Harry has
said he will. I think that's fascinating, little bit. William
doesn't wear a wedding ring. His dad doesn't wear a
wedding Prince Charles, his grand Prince Philip doesn't wear a
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wedding ring. So I think this interesting stories about that too,
and hand this this old fashioned, creaky institution is trying
so hard to be hip and cool. What will be
the first song they danced her at the wedding? Well,
the queen dance um. So each week we're trying to
dig into these questions. Today we have a royal etiquette
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expert coming on. Did you know when the queen finishes
her dinner, when you eat with her, you have to stop.
So if you're still hungry, or if she's not hungry,
you better eat quick because the minute the Queen puts
her folk dad didn is over Halter that. I just
love these details. If she doesn't want dessert, that the
table does not get dessert. Do you imagine? You know?
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It's funny because I watched you know, a lot of
the history stuff and I see that with like Victoria,
But I didn't think they still did that. If they
still do it, they still absolutely do you know? In
Victoria there's a lot of them the TV show on PBS,
there's a lot of a storyline about her husband, Albert
and how he felt left out. Historically in the royal family,
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if you're a king and you marry someone, she becomes
the queen. If you're a woman, if you're the queen
and you marry someone he's not the king. Prince Philip
is not the king, and so are all these rules
that are so interested what will Megan's role be? She
doesn't really have a role. The second son or the
second child was always thought of as a spare in
case anything went wrong with the air and the stair,
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and so you know, historically it's only ever happened once
when the king abdicated because of another American, Waly Simpson. So, now,
what has Harry's life going to be with Megan that
I'm already hearing that. You know, they're they're thinking of
having a house here in America. She's American? Like will
they have a flat in New York that would be delicious?
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Or l a or or should where will they live?
And so there's tons of questions that are not answered,
and so each week we try to find out what
those answers are, and more importantly, we'll all the listeners
contact to us, like what are your questions? Can she
cross her legs? Can she curtsy? All that stuff that
we find so charming on Dad's and happy in Victoria.
We're going to find the answers to each week, all right,
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speaking of questions, I'd like to end with my three
killer questions, so I've got them for you. The first
question I ask is if you could listen to a
podcast featuring anyone in history, whose podcast would you like
to listen to much A really, really good one. I
think it would be Queen Victoria because I'm watching the
Queen Victoria serious at the moment. I'm obsessed. I think
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it would be Queen Victoria, although it might be more
interesting to talk to Queen Elizabeth's corgy. Corky has seen
it all. Dogs have seen it. Dogs have seen it all.
That's a good question. Next one, okay, the next one
is if you were going to build a celebrity Big
Brother House right now, who would you like to see
in it? Oh? God, I'd have to have a Christianna.
I'd have to have Christianna in there. I would probably
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like Matt Lower in that little country versual but at
one and find out what's going on there. And then
I love myself some Liza Minelli, just old school, fabulous
sequence and show business. A share or a a Liza. I
would imagine them in the shower the show would have
come out with with Liza, I saw I saw. So
Lisa did this reality show and she taped it in
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her apartment and she was married to David guests at
the time, and somebody I know, a camera guy, had
like two minutes of footage that we've watched endlessly on
Loop and sat in his room and drank wine. It's
the best two minutes of TV I'd ever seen. Yes,
I'd have a lie, definitely, Liza would be in the house.
And what's the last podcast that you've benched that I've
(26:40):
listened to? Yeah? That you yeah? That? Or that you
listen one? There's got Elviston ran on Z one hundred.
There's a lady on his show called Bethanie Watson and
her and two girls have a podcast. It's three of them,
and I love it because I'm a guy and it's
like listening to a lee and the most I mean
(27:01):
and the nicest possible way that the questions they they
ask and the things they say have me absolutely howling.
And even as a gay man, I love how how
different our minds work and our experience as a life is.
And so the last what I listened to is Bethanie
Watson's podcast on My Heart Now, and it's trific. It's
really fun. Well, I hope the next time that someone
(27:23):
asked you that question, the answer is Access podcast with Maddie. Maddie,
I'm gonna listen to it right. Thank you for having
the spending time with me. Bye. That was funny. That
was He's great. I really enjoyed talking to him. You
guys had a great rapport. I think guys like that
(27:45):
are so used to not getting to talk about themselves
because they're talking about celebrities all the time and everything,
and and when you're in that kind of job, it's
it's kind of like, hey, monkey boy, perform, you know,
come on, talk about this one thing and then go
um where. He's an interesting guy, Like I didn't even
get into about half of the things I wanted to
get into with him because I just I just find
(28:07):
him to be a solid human being. I've read some
good articles with him, and just he's he's he's just
a good dude. I really liked him, So I hope
he had a good time. I hope you like me.
As you can tell, I don't have a voice. I'm
a little sick. You got me sick? Thank you? No, No,
it's the illness. It's going around the office. It's a plague.
(28:27):
Um we call it. It's the I Heart Digital plague.
Everybody's had it. Uh, we're all in quarantine. It's bad.
It's bad, but we soldier on into our show. So see,
I want you to talk a lot. Tell me about
some podcasts that I need to be listening to. All right,
So these are all based around pop culture culture podcast
and the first is The Cooler with Emmanuel Jamdra and
(28:48):
Carly It's part of San Francisco's NPR station k q
e D. And they're young, they're fun. They just hit
on anything that's going on recent to what's going on
in the world, and funny and cute and yeah, I
love this show. Let's let's hear a little taste of it.
Now that I am a parent, I have to deal
with this Valentine thing. Last year in kindergarten, I had
(29:09):
decided what to do because you can't just go hand
and candy out Willy Newly anymore. People have allergies. Some
people it's like Halloween again, gluten free exactly. I'm just like,
there are guidelines. It's like my childhood Celiac. No offense
anyone with elect disease I hear it's bad. Now Jamdra
has reached out. I think they're coming on the show hopefully.
(29:32):
Let's let's get on there. I'm looking forward to having
them on and they'll be in studio and we'll do
that on a Facebook Clive too when they're in studio
and access podcast. Yeah, we should have done today, but
I wasn't feeling good. I don't feel like doing it.
But we'll do more of that. We've got some cool
cameras we built into the studios, and U and Z
is the keeper of all of that. I am the gatekeeper. Yeah,
you're you're. I don't think people know what a video
(29:55):
queen you are. You work for the San Francisco Giants.
I did The Warrior, the Warriors, Stanford on and on.
Not the A's though, which are really the good ball
team in the Bay Area anyway. So our next podcast
is called The Daily and they're by the New York
Times and it's hosted by Michael Barbaro. And like The Cooler,
(30:20):
it really dives into a certain topic that's going on
right in the moment. So sometimes politics right now, mostly
about the Olympics, and I'll pick one little thing and
explain it in twenty five minutes. This is for you,
one of the hottest podcasts out right now right, So
I start my day with it, you know, just to
get a quick bit of news. Yeah, if you want
to sound like you know what you're talking about with podcasts,
(30:42):
exactly started the daily and they'd be like, so did
you hear on the Daily today? And then people with
automatically think you're smart. Let's hear a little taste this weekend.
At the opening ceremonies of the two thousand and eighteen
Winter Olympics, one hundred and sixty nine plainly dressed athletes
arched out in drab gray coats and blue jeans, competing
(31:04):
not for a country but under the name Olympic athlete
from Russia. What Russia did in the last Winter Olympics
to earn them that punishing I know. Two Dip Queens
America America. The two Dip Queens TV thing was like listen,
(31:24):
I'm like, I'll go back to the podcast. Well, here's
the thing. I'm against this in general because I'm a
fan of audio and this American life couldn't pull it off.
This American Life tried to do a TV show and
they admit it fully that it didn't work because this
is an audio medium. It just doesn't have Let you
go on Facebook live for a quick minute. Then I
(31:46):
feel like that works here and there. But yeah, a
whole special or TV shows, it's just not for me.
Not my thing. Not my thing. I'm an audio guy.
But hey, you're gonna make a buck. Make a buck,
and if you'd like to turn this into a television show,
we absolutely love to do it. Thank you very much.
I love talking with his voice. All right, what's kind next?
So my last one is a sports slash art slash
(32:08):
life one and it's called Open Run. I don't know
this one. So it's by the Uninterrupted Network, which is
Lebron James's network. And come on, Lebron James not a
fan fan, I don't know, but I love you wor
the finals? Once? How is how's Lebron when you're you're
like working, you're down on the court, locked in. You know,
(32:29):
he's focused. He's not rude to anybody, none of the
players are. Yeah, he's not flirting or anything. No, he
I mean Lebron. Once he's on the court, he's on
the court. He's there to play the game. But you've
had you've had some players flirt with you. I will
not say you have had some with you. By Jesse Williams.
Still the Lady. This is by Jesse Williams. Were talking
(32:53):
about open red, Go ahead. Okay, so Jesse Williams, he's
on Gray's Anatomy and Stefan Stephen, Mark Calacus, mar Lacus.
Was it Draymond Green? Did my lips are sealed? It
was Clay Thompson. He's quiet, but I bet he first,
as he's super sweet, but it was not him. Um, yeah,
(33:15):
it's great. They talked about sports. Sometimes they have Lebron
on the show. They do live shows with like Real
Union to talk a lot about the Warriors too, because
you know that's cool. We are dope. Let's check it out.
Let me spin you a little tale of childhood. Michael
Jordan ruined my fifteenth birthday because, uh, I went to
the Knicks Bulls game where he dropped the double double Nickel.
(33:41):
I love, I love Lebron. I mean you can't, as
if you're a fan, you have to. You have to
appreciate what who he is and what he does, and
but I can still just you know, hate on him
for being Yeah, because he's a baby, and he cries,
and he gets every call he wants, and he travels
and and but he's he's oh my god, oh don't
(34:03):
get me starting on that anyway. Go Warriors dubbed Nation Forever. Alright,
good job, thank you. I appreciated those. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
thanks for listening to Access podcast everybody. The show was
produced by z and we have had our engineering done
by David Williams and Horse Wong and Red Reads a big,
(34:23):
big help with us in the studio in fact, and Anna,
let's mention Anna Anna, who's an engineer here who put
in the video system which you'll be seeing on all
of our podcasts here at iHeart Radio. After I reel
against video and podcasting, but it's more making them in
a tea shows. Casey Franco, thanks for all you do, Dalton,
Sean Rick, everybody in the digital department here, special thanks
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to Chris Peterson, the godfather of podcast at I Heeart Radio,
Katie Wilcox and on Um Parker here at I Heart
Radio San Francisco. I am going to go drink some
tea as you suggest tested and fix my voice. And
all I want you to do is go to I
heart Radio, download the EP if you don't have it,
and check out some podcasts today and share them with
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your friends. Bye bye M.
Hi, It's Mattie from Access Podcast, the podcast about podcast Z.
My voice is a little kind. Yeah, yeah, I'm going
through the change. When it's time to change. You got
to You don't know that Brady Bunch. Gosh, I'm so old.
Well I'll tell you somebody who who would get my jokes.
It's it's Rob Shooter. We luckily when we did the interview,
(00:25):
I had a voice. Um. If you don't know who
Rob is, he is a gossip guy from Naughty Gossip.
He does the Wendy Williams Show all the Time, that
Today's Show, Good Day New York, the Elvis Durant Show.
He's the guy with the awesome English accent. Anyway, he's
coming up next on the show, but it's check him
out right now. From his new podcast, The Royal Wedding,
Megan muchles half brother insists that his children should not
(00:49):
should not be invited to the Royal wedding because they
have not seen her since they were children. So the
brothers coming forward here, the half brother and really saying it,
although everybody wants to go to this wedding, goodness en
as we do. I do that her family, her distance family,
I guess should not be invite, So rather before we
start talking about the wedding, I'm I'm interested to talk
(01:11):
about you and you and you know you've devoted most
of your life to celebrity and talking about celebrities and
and I just wonder what was the first, you know,
like piece of celebrity gossip that you remember seeing and going, God,
this is really hard. It's even deeper than that. I
can remember being in the playground when I was six
(01:32):
or seven and Craig Smith was caught kissing this girl
behind the bike shared and I told everybody at school,
and I was the most popular person in the whole class.
I learned, I really learned at an early age to
be nosy. I'm just nosy person, and I love people
telling this stuff. And I don't know why they do,
(01:53):
because it's painfully obvious. I'm going to tell everybody else.
But I experienced gossip at a really early age. And
I think sometimes people think with the word gossip they
think of bad things or or it's a little bit
sleazy or a little bit naughty. I don't know. In
my family, around the table, gossip and chalk and chatter
(02:13):
and laughs about family members and friends was what we did.
So I grew up in a household where to gossip
was sort of a positive thing. It meant, it meant
we cared about each other, It meant that we wanted
to know what everybody was up to. It wasn't a
bad thing. It's it's sort of like a different angle,
a different way of looking at gossip. I grew up
in a world where chatting about people it didn't have
(02:36):
to be me, and like gossip doesn't always have to
be be me, And so I grew up in a
world where we're gossiping and talking was sort of a
good thing to do, you know. And I think that's
one of the reasons I think people do trust you
is that, you know, you came from a world of
being a publicist where you're putting out, you know, kind
of what people you want people to think about somebody
(02:56):
to gossip to. It's it's it's like you said it
as this connotation, but the way you do what you
do this naughty but nice kind of It's I like
to say that my website, Naughty gossip dot Com is
a pinch. It's not a punch. It's really easy when
I think about it, when I go out for dinner
with my friends. My really mean friends are so interesting
(03:18):
and so fascinating, and I sit there gasping at all
the mean things they say. But when I get home,
I need to have a shower. Now. My nice friends
are awfully nice, but they're a little bit dull, and
so if I can be in the middle, if I
could be naughty but life, then I think I've sort
of hit my sweet spot. And by nature and an optimist,
(03:38):
I like people, I like celebrities. I'm not a mean girl.
I'm not I'm not sitting there thinking of mean things
to say. I think it's just as interesting, if not
more so, if you've got engaged, or you fell in love,
or you met somebody really cute. That to me is
just as interesting as a breakup or a divorce or
something a little bit more more tragic. But you're right.
(03:59):
For years and earth, I worked with Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Simpson,
Alicia Keys bon Jovi, But the one that I learned
the most from was PDD. Puffy was a client of
mine for many, many years, and I say this is love.
I worked for Puffy, he paid me. I don't really
know what he does like he's deelish, but I don't really.
I think he sells t shirts. I sort of think
(04:22):
he has a vodka. But what he does do better
than anybody else is he makes the world more interesting
and more exciting. And he's he's our generations Barnum Like
he just puts on a show. He's a he's a
ring master. He's in the middle of the circus in
a red coat, waving his arms and even changing his name,
his name Sean. You know, I called him Sean, and
(04:44):
so I learned from him how to have fun and
tell tales and have an exciting sort of life. And
so I really thank Puffy from that, and that's how
I really got into the business of being a celebrity
gossip columnist. I do think it's people's nature to be
to enjoy self righteous indignation, you know, where we love
(05:06):
to be like, oh, I'm so indignant, and the Internet
has just made it more so, it has it has.
But I think I'm a big believer in gentle hate like.
I don't like that. I like gentle hate like and
it always makes me laugh, Like this morning, before talking
to you, I just did the Wendy william Show, and
I work up with this huge sort of cold stare
(05:27):
on the side of my map, this massive thing to say.
And but the show had to go on, and the
people in the makeup room had gentle hate and it
made me laugh, like I can laugh at my own
flaws and imperfections. I think too. Everybody asked me where
do I get gossip? Where do I find it? And
to be honest, my best sources are reporters at The
(05:48):
New York Times, are at ABC or at my Heart radio,
or I'm just allowed to print stuff that you might
only say or my only whisper. And so I think
it as journalism. I know that's going to annoy people
and sound nothing but the same effort that goes into
reporting a story at ABC or NBC. I make that
(06:08):
effort with celebrities. I call sources, I call restaurants, I
have backup um and I got over there being in
the celebrity world for as long as I was as
a publicist, I had access to stuff that celebrity columnists
never gets, like. I've been backstage at the Oscars and
the Golden Globes. I've been there when j Loo's shoes
didn't fit. I've been there at photo shoots for the
(06:29):
cover of Vogue and Vanity Fair, and so I was
lucky to have access for all those years to these
amazing places, and that's really paid off now with the
with the quality in the tyber gossip I get. You know,
my very first producing job was for g Gordon Liddy, Like, oh, well,
(06:51):
that's the thing. I have a couple of things that
I really know I can't say, and so he's dead.
He's dead. I'm going to let him out. I mean,
I know some deep ship on this. Do you think
the culture has changed a little bit? Maybe the Housewives
or the Kardashians have done this. I feel bad now
for the old school celebrities like the Julia Roberts and
the Cameron Diaces, who we just don't really care about
(07:11):
it anymore. Like I want the Real Housewives, I want
nine leak snatching a wig. I want the Kardashians, you know,
causing mischief. I think the world has really changed with
sort of like reality shows and celebrity shows, and the
old days of these really sort of like a list
celebrities have sort of gone like I would rather, gosh,
(07:32):
this sounds terrible. I get more hits on a sort
of interesting story about a Kardashian than I would on
a great story about George Clooney. People want to know
about these reality stars amazing. I guess the point too,
I was going to ask you, was, I mean, do
you still have those stories that you know you can't
tell or is it to the point where everybody just
(07:53):
knows everything's gonna get told, so there's no point keeping
it in. Well, it's interesting as as a as a
publicist when when something terrible and to a client, whether
it be involved in in illegal drugs or sex or stuff,
they that would that would get out. It's going to
get out. So as a publicist, I would give it
with my client's permission to a friendly outlet. I'd rather
(08:14):
appear in a place where that that that would frame
it in a way that would be kind and gentle.
Then it breaks in as a real hard news story.
So often people call me with stuff that it's going
to get out. So rather do it on laudy Gossip
than on some other site that's not going to handle
it quite as quite as kind as I had. But
I do have stories, like you know, my husband's a songwriter.
(08:36):
I've been married to Bruce for years and he wrote
a lot of the Barry Man of those songs, like
you know Barry came out the closet recently on the
cover of People magazine. I've known that for but but
for twenty years I didn't say a word like So
there's stuff that I know. It's also true whenever I
go to a TV show, I do that Today Show
(08:56):
and Wendy Williams, anything that happens in a green room
I won't report on. So I've seen celebrities, a real
A list superstar celebrity haven't melt down and melt down
in the green room over a very very innocent question
that was going to be asked for her, And ultimately
she walked off the show that that was delicious, and
I sat there in the corner absorbing it all. But
(09:18):
I never reported it because I was invited into the house.
I was invited into that living room, I was invited
into that family. And so there's places like that that
I'm I'm careful about. Yeah, And I also I don't
I don't act people. There's a couple of gay celebrities
now who have not come out, not of the older generation,
but you know, in their twenties. I know I know
at least one, maybe two singers at the moment who
(09:40):
are struggling with it. I'm not going to act them.
I know two health stories at the moment, one involving
a major British star that I'm not gonna do something. Yeah,
I'm careful about it. I think what makes me for
good is that for as much aside Prince I, there's
there's there's another fifty percent that I don't do you
(10:02):
think that celebrity is now vying for attention from the
reality show we call the Trump Presidency. Yeah, well, Trump's
sort of like a I don't say a symptom, but
Trump's reflection maybe of what's going on in America and
around the world. Like Trump is now an example how
celebrities really really powerful and knowing people and think we
(10:22):
knowing them. I think a lot of people think they
know Donald because of the Celebrity Apprentice. What they don't
know is that that was a set set up in
Trump Tower on the twentieth floor. That's not his boardroom,
it's not his office, it's not his assistant. I guess
it's his children. But but like but but it was
little Like I said, I've been into his apartment. I
(10:43):
went there to interview Milania when she had a jewelry collection.
And you walk in or you get in the elevator,
you walk up the elevator and there's these two massive
gold doors, um and they open the doors, and the
first floor of the apartment it's a set. There's light
in the ceiling like on a on a movie set.
And they also have a fountain in the living room,
this big fountain. And when I left, I heard them
(11:05):
flick the switch that the fountory went off. So it's
a it's all like the whole thing is set up
for television. TV is really really powerful, whatever your politics are.
You know, there's no doubt that he's, you know, the
star who knows how to be. He knows how to
make things about himself. And there's a gossip columnists, you know,
that's that's delicious. I think that for yours. There's been
(11:26):
stories about Donald's when he was a celebrity league in
stuff to the press and the papers, and he knows
how to He knows all the columnists, he knows them
all by name. He knows phone numbers and our emails,
like Donald Donald knows how to how to work the media.
Now I like to check out the rags all over,
so I check out the British rags, and he knows
a lot of coverage on the Trump presidency and and
(11:48):
and then on the flip side, you know, to kind
of uh, you know, he's into this Royal wedding podcast.
You know, Americans are obsessed with English everything. I was
I was thinking about this this weekend. I was watching Victoria.
I was reading about the Napoleonic Wars from the perspective
of an English captain. And you know, Eddie Izard had
this line where he goes, well, I'm from England, That's
where the history comes from. And it's true, we are
(12:11):
obsessed with English everything. That is. I don't know. I
do know that I've benefited from it. I know that
here now. Honestly, I'm really not that smart and I'm
not very interesting, but having this accents makes me sound
like Mary Poppins. I can always murder who in Britain
people would have told me to shut up years ago.
If you went to London, you would be a sensation
(12:31):
with your adorable accents. It's just I don't know. Being
a Britain in New York in America has certainly helped me.
I think that I think that we have to really
credit the Royal Family for this. It's it's the first
reality family of all time, and they're awfully good at
have package in it and and given a storylines. And
(12:53):
so maybe you know, there is they hate me for
saying that they're the original Kardashians, like the Royal Family
just have have sort of really set up a way
to be really digen It's hardly interested in sixty million
people are in America over three million. It's always the one.
It's a one story. And so what the Brits have
(13:13):
done with the Royal family is tell the story of
a nation through five or six characters. It's like a
soap opera. And so now that Megan has married into
that family, we have another character. And so I think,
I think part partly that's why people are so obsessed
with Britain. And there was a time many many years
ago when Britain, you know, sort of ran the world.
(13:35):
So I think we all somehow have a linkage back
to the Motherland or you know, I mean, we all
have a relative or a distance relative, or a very
distant relative that might have been British at some point
my friend's joke, there's so many Brits now in New York.
It's like we're getting the colony back. Like I feel
like I should wear a red coat to walk around,
Like I feel like I would say that America, but
(13:56):
that they're They're awfully kind, and I think America's in America.
Ricans in London are really welcome if you ever travel
to Britain as an American. The Britas love Americans. We
love American TV, we love American films, we love American
food in the same way that there's some difference towards
Britain in in America. In Britain, we love the Americans.
(14:19):
I'm now, I now want to either start a podcast
or ready book called the Plantagenets the Original Kardashians. They
really really well. I die with dit An Abbey and
all these other shows that are so successful. Oh please,
I could be nothing but great for my career. I
hope more more more royals get married, and then after
the way that I'm sure I'll have a podcast on
the babies, and then hopefully not, but maybe there'll be
(14:41):
a divorce podcast. Like you never it, let's talk about that.
So you know, I'm a I'm a podcast nerd. I
left morning shows ten years ago to get into starting
an app called Stitcher and been in podcasting ever since.
And now back with I Heart and I was when
they got the when we got I got email about
your podcast. I was like, Ah, this is the kind
(15:02):
of podcast that I want to see more of because
I think that the world podcasting evolves and we're finding
you know that it's going from being these NPR podcasts.
He's really well produced and what you're wonderful to, you know,
podcast more than the everyday person wants to. Like you
say about the scrappy podcast, I'm not saying that, I'm
saying that. I'm saying that it's more mainstream. I think
(15:26):
to hear your flaws. They want to hear everything they want.
They want now to to hear you pick your notes.
They want to hear you missproducial words. I think people
listen to podcasts and all media now as if we're
their friends, and I'd love to be. It's it's fun
to communicate in a way that's really authentic, that you
don't have to be too fancy, you don't have to
(15:47):
pretend to be Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer anymore. I'm
friends with Holder, who's just been um Announswers a co
anchor of the Today Show, What hold of successes? Apart
from the fact that she's brilliants, so she's authentic, that
really is who she is. So when you see her
on camera on the morning show or you go for
dinner with her, that's that's hold up. And I think
that people mag and smellophony. And that's what's so delicious
(16:09):
about the Successful podcast is that I think they really
capture the truth. You know, you had I read a
quote from you. It said and you said, the amount
of effort in time people have spend trying to cover
something up, even their own personalities, is ridiculous. Just find
the truth, and yeah I did. It's it's it's easy
(16:31):
to talk in soundbites on TV for two or three minutes,
but to see I was terrified when I was offered
this job to do this podcast. I was terrified of
sitting there for half an hour. So twenty is half
an hour and rattling on and on and on, and
like the accent is good for five minutes, but come on,
it's just Ania and so I just it was like,
(16:52):
what am I gonna say. And then once I got
past myself and just started to sit there and enjoy it,
I was like, I can go to a bar tonight
with a friend or or a new a new friend,
And like I said, there were hours and talk. So
why am I worries about half an hour? I think
that's the way you should go into this. Like it's
I pretend I'm sitting there. Maybe I don't put them,
(17:13):
but with a glass of wide I sit there and
I talk and talk and I find all the great
news of the week and all the breaking stuff out
of London. And then I think what we've done too
is we found some really interesting guests to come on
and tell us the real dish at this. This amazing
royal expert Nicki Gostin Australian, she came on and she
went there like she talked about sex before marriage, had
(17:34):
Harry and Megan dune the deed, which in the Royal
family is quite shocking. You're not really meant to do it.
But Nikki was hilarious and it was a really really
fun episode. This week's episode, there was a rumor that
the Cake Boss Buddy the Cake Boss, was going to
make the Royal cake. So we slept out to his studio.
We went out to the bakery and we walked. Did
(17:55):
we were invited, we did just like completely sort of darted,
but we will did. He was in the kitchen and
he came and talked with us about the royal cake
and he didn't deny it, but he didn't confirm it.
But then he told us about if he did get
to do the cake, what he would do and how
he would get it there. Could you FedEx the cake
to London or does he have to go and bake
it that. I think people are really interesting in life,
(18:16):
not just some podcast listeners. Really listen to this, because
in life, if you think somebody is a bit dull
or they don't talk very much, is because you haven't
found the subject that they want to talk about. And
everybody wants to talk, even quiet people, when you find
the subject, and nine times out of ten, it's what
they do for a living. People love to talk about
what they do for a living. You could follow anybody
(18:37):
around with a with a camera and make a documentary.
I think I think he could. There's a story within everybody.
And and when I first you know, you know, looking
at this podcast like how they can do a podcast
about this every week and you know, a gossip and
what's going to happen And it comes down though to
to the host and and this is where your skill
as a true interviewer comes out and making it a
(18:58):
conversation and not just you know, you know, you know,
like you said, sound by TV stuff, and the conversations
you have on this podcast are fascinating. People talk to me,
I'm shocked me. That's my questions that I think I
get away with it because the accident. I asked them,
if you don't you do your personalities, why you get
away with it? You just said it. The accent gets sold.
(19:19):
Although I did hear when you said it's twenty minutes
and you're done with my accents. I did say when
you said Sean from when you're talking about well, if
everybody said it the way you said, if you'd be
very happy to be called Sean all the time as
you're recorded for every shot out there. But if you write,
if you talk to people and ask them questions, and
then if you're smart enough to just shut up and
(19:41):
let them talk, they will tell you everything. They really
will tell you everything. In my PR days, we used
to always know who you were by finding out who
you hate it And I think that's true in real life.
Who do you hate and that's who you are, so
you know if Bonto hates Bruce Springsteen, did he hate
jay Z, Jaylo and Mariah? But I think it's really
(20:03):
interesting in life if you figure out who people like
and who they hate. It's such a reflection. So I
use a lot of my PR tricks on people. I
try to shut up and let them talk. Everybody has
a story. I try to ask them cheeky questions and
I asked, I think the stuff we want to know,
like I mean, I do want to know about the
royals and sex. I do want to know like if
(20:25):
Kate and Mega Markle are friendly of not and not
so friendly. I do want to know what it's like
to leave your country, which she did. She lost, left
her friends and her family, went to a palace, which
can be quite a lonely place. There's not there's not
a lot of people in that palace to be that
friendly to you. And now I love the little details
a royal source of man in Britain come with. The
(20:47):
big test was when she met the Queen if the
core gives liked Mega, and so if Mega the Court
of the Dogs, and I was like, my god, that
is so true. And I've had friends who my dogs
don't like and I'm not friends at the mony. The
dog doesn't like you, there's something really wrong with you exactly.
(21:08):
So I think it's applying all those things from our
lives to theirs. That makes hopefully half an hour of
interesting chatter that people can can sign up to in
the sun lots of gossip. Is there anything shocking that's
coming up on the podcast that think? Yeah? I mean,
(21:30):
I mean you and I are you know, we're just talking.
There's some really light food questions about protocol, what what what?
What she will wear? You know, she's divorced, she's a
divorcing so will she wear white? Probably the off white
who's going to perform at the wedding. He's really good
friends with Ed Sheering. Will he be there? Elton John
has already taken a couple of days off his schedule.
(21:52):
We noticed that just so happened to coincide with the wedding.
What will happen after the wedding? What's going to be
her role? She's she an amazing human being and she's
TV ready because she's been on televisions for so many
years that maybe her slickness is a little annoying to
some of the Brits. Will they at the minute they
love her, but it's it's it's the Megan miracle. At
(22:14):
the moment, she's everywhere. How must that be affecting Kate Middleton,
who's the star of that family. Kate's are bossy boots
and so Kate runs that royal family. The Queen's favorite
is William. So if William likes you, everything is fine.
So I think just watching this this old traditional family
try really hard to adapt and make missteps. It's delicious
(22:38):
to watch them. Man, it's so nice that they're trying
so hard. So there's tons of stuff and every day
and there's another question like royal men, this get this.
Royal men traditionally don't wear a wedding ring. Harry has
said he will. I think that's fascinating, little bit. William
doesn't wear a wedding ring. His dad doesn't wear a
wedding Prince Charles, his grand Prince Philip doesn't wear a
(23:01):
wedding ring. So I think this interesting stories about that too,
and hand this this old fashioned, creaky institution is trying
so hard to be hip and cool. What will be
the first song they danced her at the wedding? Well,
the queen dance um. So each week we're trying to
dig into these questions. Today we have a royal etiquette
(23:21):
expert coming on. Did you know when the queen finishes
her dinner, when you eat with her, you have to stop.
So if you're still hungry, or if she's not hungry,
you better eat quick because the minute the Queen puts
her folk dad didn is over Halter that. I just
love these details. If she doesn't want dessert, that the
table does not get dessert. Do you imagine? You know?
(23:45):
It's funny because I watched you know, a lot of
the history stuff and I see that with like Victoria,
But I didn't think they still did that. If they
still do it, they still absolutely do you know? In
Victoria there's a lot of them the TV show on PBS,
there's a lot of a storyline about her husband, Albert
and how he felt left out. Historically in the royal family,
(24:06):
if you're a king and you marry someone, she becomes
the queen. If you're a woman, if you're the queen
and you marry someone he's not the king. Prince Philip
is not the king, and so are all these rules
that are so interested what will Megan's role be? She
doesn't really have a role. The second son or the
second child was always thought of as a spare in
case anything went wrong with the air and the stair,
(24:29):
and so you know, historically it's only ever happened once
when the king abdicated because of another American, Waly Simpson. So, now,
what has Harry's life going to be with Megan that
I'm already hearing that. You know, they're they're thinking of
having a house here in America. She's American? Like will
they have a flat in New York that would be delicious?
(24:50):
Or l a or or should where will they live?
And so there's tons of questions that are not answered,
and so each week we try to find out what
those answers are, and more importantly, we'll all the listeners
contact to us, like what are your questions? Can she
cross her legs? Can she curtsy? All that stuff that
we find so charming on Dad's and happy in Victoria.
We're going to find the answers to each week, all right,
(25:14):
speaking of questions, I'd like to end with my three
killer questions, so I've got them for you. The first
question I ask is if you could listen to a
podcast featuring anyone in history, whose podcast would you like
to listen to much A really, really good one. I
think it would be Queen Victoria because I'm watching the
Queen Victoria serious at the moment. I'm obsessed. I think
(25:35):
it would be Queen Victoria, although it might be more
interesting to talk to Queen Elizabeth's corgy. Corky has seen
it all. Dogs have seen it. Dogs have seen it all.
That's a good question. Next one, okay, the next one
is if you were going to build a celebrity Big
Brother House right now, who would you like to see
in it? Oh? God, I'd have to have a Christianna.
I'd have to have Christianna in there. I would probably
(25:58):
like Matt Lower in that little country versual but at
one and find out what's going on there. And then
I love myself some Liza Minelli, just old school, fabulous
sequence and show business. A share or a a Liza. I
would imagine them in the shower the show would have
come out with with Liza, I saw I saw. So
Lisa did this reality show and she taped it in
(26:20):
her apartment and she was married to David guests at
the time, and somebody I know, a camera guy, had
like two minutes of footage that we've watched endlessly on
Loop and sat in his room and drank wine. It's
the best two minutes of TV I'd ever seen. Yes,
I'd have a lie, definitely, Liza would be in the house.
And what's the last podcast that you've benched that I've
(26:40):
listened to? Yeah? That you yeah? That? Or that you
listen one? There's got Elviston ran on Z one hundred.
There's a lady on his show called Bethanie Watson and
her and two girls have a podcast. It's three of them,
and I love it because I'm a guy and it's
like listening to a lee and the most I mean
(27:01):
and the nicest possible way that the questions they they
ask and the things they say have me absolutely howling.
And even as a gay man, I love how how
different our minds work and our experience as a life is.
And so the last what I listened to is Bethanie
Watson's podcast on My Heart Now, and it's trific. It's
really fun. Well, I hope the next time that someone
(27:23):
asked you that question, the answer is Access podcast with Maddie. Maddie,
I'm gonna listen to it right. Thank you for having
the spending time with me. Bye. That was funny. That
was He's great. I really enjoyed talking to him. You
guys had a great rapport. I think guys like that
(27:45):
are so used to not getting to talk about themselves
because they're talking about celebrities all the time and everything,
and and when you're in that kind of job, it's
it's kind of like, hey, monkey boy, perform, you know,
come on, talk about this one thing and then go
um where. He's an interesting guy, Like I didn't even
get into about half of the things I wanted to
get into with him because I just I just find
(28:07):
him to be a solid human being. I've read some
good articles with him, and just he's he's he's just
a good dude. I really liked him, So I hope
he had a good time. I hope you like me.
As you can tell, I don't have a voice. I'm
a little sick. You got me sick? Thank you? No, No,
it's the illness. It's going around the office. It's a plague.
(28:27):
Um we call it. It's the I Heart Digital plague.
Everybody's had it. Uh, we're all in quarantine. It's bad.
It's bad, but we soldier on into our show. So see,
I want you to talk a lot. Tell me about
some podcasts that I need to be listening to. All right,
So these are all based around pop culture culture podcast
and the first is The Cooler with Emmanuel Jamdra and
(28:48):
Carly It's part of San Francisco's NPR station k q
e D. And they're young, they're fun. They just hit
on anything that's going on recent to what's going on
in the world, and funny and cute and yeah, I
love this show. Let's let's hear a little taste of it.
Now that I am a parent, I have to deal
with this Valentine thing. Last year in kindergarten, I had
(29:09):
decided what to do because you can't just go hand
and candy out Willy Newly anymore. People have allergies. Some
people it's like Halloween again, gluten free exactly. I'm just like,
there are guidelines. It's like my childhood Celiac. No offense
anyone with elect disease I hear it's bad. Now Jamdra
has reached out. I think they're coming on the show hopefully.
(29:32):
Let's let's get on there. I'm looking forward to having
them on and they'll be in studio and we'll do
that on a Facebook Clive too when they're in studio
and access podcast. Yeah, we should have done today, but
I wasn't feeling good. I don't feel like doing it.
But we'll do more of that. We've got some cool
cameras we built into the studios, and U and Z
is the keeper of all of that. I am the gatekeeper. Yeah,
you're you're. I don't think people know what a video
(29:55):
queen you are. You work for the San Francisco Giants.
I did The Warrior, the Warriors, Stanford on and on.
Not the A's though, which are really the good ball
team in the Bay Area anyway. So our next podcast
is called The Daily and they're by the New York
Times and it's hosted by Michael Barbaro. And like The Cooler,
(30:20):
it really dives into a certain topic that's going on
right in the moment. So sometimes politics right now, mostly
about the Olympics, and I'll pick one little thing and
explain it in twenty five minutes. This is for you,
one of the hottest podcasts out right now right, So
I start my day with it, you know, just to
get a quick bit of news. Yeah, if you want
to sound like you know what you're talking about with podcasts,
(30:42):
exactly started the daily and they'd be like, so did
you hear on the Daily today? And then people with
automatically think you're smart. Let's hear a little taste this weekend.
At the opening ceremonies of the two thousand and eighteen
Winter Olympics, one hundred and sixty nine plainly dressed athletes
arched out in drab gray coats and blue jeans, competing
(31:04):
not for a country but under the name Olympic athlete
from Russia. What Russia did in the last Winter Olympics
to earn them that punishing I know. Two Dip Queens
America America. The two Dip Queens TV thing was like listen,
(31:24):
I'm like, I'll go back to the podcast. Well, here's
the thing. I'm against this in general because I'm a
fan of audio and this American life couldn't pull it off.
This American Life tried to do a TV show and
they admit it fully that it didn't work because this
is an audio medium. It just doesn't have Let you
go on Facebook live for a quick minute. Then I
(31:46):
feel like that works here and there. But yeah, a
whole special or TV shows, it's just not for me.
Not my thing. Not my thing. I'm an audio guy.
But hey, you're gonna make a buck. Make a buck,
and if you'd like to turn this into a television show,
we absolutely love to do it. Thank you very much.
I love talking with his voice. All right, what's kind next?
So my last one is a sports slash art slash
(32:08):
life one and it's called Open Run. I don't know
this one. So it's by the Uninterrupted Network, which is
Lebron James's network. And come on, Lebron James not a
fan fan, I don't know, but I love you wor
the finals? Once? How is how's Lebron when you're you're
like working, you're down on the court, locked in. You know,
(32:29):
he's focused. He's not rude to anybody, none of the
players are. Yeah, he's not flirting or anything. No, he
I mean Lebron. Once he's on the court, he's on
the court. He's there to play the game. But you've
had you've had some players flirt with you. I will
not say you have had some with you. By Jesse Williams.
Still the Lady. This is by Jesse Williams. Were talking
(32:53):
about open red, Go ahead. Okay, so Jesse Williams, he's
on Gray's Anatomy and Stefan Stephen, Mark Calacus, mar Lacus.
Was it Draymond Green? Did my lips are sealed? It
was Clay Thompson. He's quiet, but I bet he first,
as he's super sweet, but it was not him. Um, yeah,
(33:15):
it's great. They talked about sports. Sometimes they have Lebron
on the show. They do live shows with like Real
Union to talk a lot about the Warriors too, because
you know that's cool. We are dope. Let's check it out.
Let me spin you a little tale of childhood. Michael
Jordan ruined my fifteenth birthday because, uh, I went to
the Knicks Bulls game where he dropped the double double Nickel.
(33:41):
I love, I love Lebron. I mean you can't, as
if you're a fan, you have to. You have to
appreciate what who he is and what he does, and
but I can still just you know, hate on him
for being Yeah, because he's a baby, and he cries,
and he gets every call he wants, and he travels
and and but he's he's oh my god, oh don't
(34:03):
get me starting on that anyway. Go Warriors dubbed Nation Forever. Alright,
good job, thank you. I appreciated those. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
thanks for listening to Access podcast everybody. The show was
produced by z and we have had our engineering done
by David Williams and Horse Wong and Red Reads a big,
(34:23):
big help with us in the studio in fact, and Anna,
let's mention Anna Anna, who's an engineer here who put
in the video system which you'll be seeing on all
of our podcasts here at iHeart Radio. After I reel
against video and podcasting, but it's more making them in
a tea shows. Casey Franco, thanks for all you do, Dalton,
Sean Rick, everybody in the digital department here, special thanks
(34:46):
to Chris Peterson, the godfather of podcast at I Heeart Radio,
Katie Wilcox and on Um Parker here at I Heart
Radio San Francisco. I am going to go drink some
tea as you suggest tested and fix my voice. And
all I want you to do is go to I
heart Radio, download the EP if you don't have it,
and check out some podcasts today and share them with
(35:07):
your friends. Bye bye M.
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