Bradley Beal | Ep 40 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | #StayHome with SHOWTIME Basketball

NBA Star Bradley Beal joins Matt and Stephen for Episode 40 of All The Smoke. The Wizard's shooting guard opens up on his relationship with John Wall, his contract extension with Washington, and his time playing for Billy Donovan at Florida. Beal also talks about modeling his game after Allen Iverson, Ray Allen & Dwayne Wade.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
From my high school team. We have five guys make
the NBA. We head the County Rocket gets some meta
of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon
whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do
to stop the competitive and that's just in the water.

(00:30):
Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a
real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the
virtual handshake? I'm gonna tell you something that I never
told nobody. I want to out the smoke. Welcome back
to another Quarantine episode of all the Smoke. Jack, what's happening?

(00:50):
My brother was going on our dead man? Hey, I
hope you got to good weather out there, because it's
raining down here. That's what stuff is nice out here.
I just got this beany u because my hair is
fucked up. I don't know what to do with it
to day. I didn't have I didn't have time to
press it. You feel me. That's differ between me and you.
If I had that ship you got on top of
your head, I have a pony till some ship right now.

(01:10):
I should just be hanging you. Just let us should
go whatever, yeah whatever, let that ship hang. Huh. Anyway, man,
let's get to him. Man, we got a special guest today. Someone.
I'm excited because he's emerged as one of the NBA's
best players. Well, we don't ever hear this motherfucker say nothing.

(01:32):
We don't ever hear him talk. No, I've never seen
no interviews of him, and so I'm really excited to
right to get to know more about it because I
know his game. I love his game, but I want
to get to know him a little better. Man. So everybody, man, Welcome,
Bradley Beale, Welcome, little Brotack. What's up man, Thanks for
having me, appreciate the time man to be with us. Sir,

(01:55):
How is everything man? How are you and the family
holding up? You know during this lockdown and uh pandemic
we got going on. It's crazy, man, because ship we
can't nobody really will do nothing. But for me, it's
a blessing because one, I gotta have a gym in
my house and I got a weight room. So that's
what happens. That's what happens when you're really rich. But

(02:16):
go ahead, I gotta I got a little upper hand
so as I still get my work in on the constant,
and I think it's a blessing. Too, man, because I
get to be around my boys all day, every day,
being around wife you all day, and you know, we
don't get that, you know, during a year ago. So
it's definitely I look at it as a blessing and
discuss that's something we've definitely talked about. Not realizing like

(02:38):
now that you're half time to sit and chill with
the kids with that rigor that schedule is like, we
never really get that time. And when we do get
that time, we're tired of ship, you know what it means.
So it's good to be able to just spend time
with your kids and your family and really just sit
back and enjoy ship. No boom, no boom. You're a
big time gamer, and I see you and your girl
doing all kinds of TikTok that when you you got

(03:00):
need to start challenging couples. Becauld you guys, be on
your little TikTok nineteen eighties dance routines, and ship is dope.
Even but even with the wardrobe, even with the wardrobe,
him and this girl, they do like him and like
I think fabbing his girl. They do a great job
of putting the coordinating together. Y'all y'all at the top.
I think me and my girl, Me and my girl

(03:21):
be looking at y'all man trying to think out how
how can we get slide into your lane? A little
bit say idea, but the choreography actually be me. So
I got some moves now rhythm. Yeah, an agreement. So

(03:44):
every every three hours of video games. You know what
I'm saying. I ain't got nothing else to do, work
out and play video games every three hours. I gotta
make a TikTok. So that was our agreement on your ship.
Then you guys, you guys need to challenge other couples.
I think that would be doping like a TikTok dance
all yeah, we need Yeah, we might do that. We
might need to start compete, but that blowing out the water.

(04:07):
I just I just got on call of duty, so
I gotta get your game with tag man. They didn't
drag me, they didn't drag me in dog, so I
got we gotta get all the day. I'm some ship.
So he said, he just be on there. You know
what I'm saying. There my drill playing my drill better

(04:28):
than me. Hey, b I can't. I can't even land
the parachute right without getting shot. I'm getting shot for
even That's what I'm saying. These kids and little kids, yeah,
my little My twins be on their sucking people up.
My twins be on their custom and ship like I'll
be shooting the show down here. And I walk out

(04:49):
to take a break. Obviously here the twins talk reckless.
I was like, who, who are you talking something? Dude
was talking trash online. Dad like letting them have it.
I'm like, they really be getting because I don't. I
don't play video games more. But it's serious. I can
hear they. Yes, they talked a little bit about fatherhood

(05:10):
and about fatherhood and how that's changed your life and outlook.
Uh honestly, I think I feel like there's nothing life
father and I feel like you have to be a
father to really understand that. And coming up on two
years my oldest son. I have two boys, Bradley Bradley
the second in Braylon and uh so Bradley is coming

(05:33):
up on two and uh but when he was born,
I feel like it changed my life in so many
ways for the better. But it gave me this motivation
to where I was living for something bigger than myself.
Everything that I was doing in life, it was bigger
than me, whether it was business, my mentality, my character,

(05:54):
I carry myself, my work ethic how I hoped. It
was like every time I stepped on the floor, I'm like, ship.
These kids grew up in the day of YouTube and
Instagram and Twitter, Like every game that you play is
gonna be on TV. So how do you carry yourself?
How you interact with your teammates, like, how you interact
with fans? Like all that's gonna be visible? So how
do you want to portray to your son? Like how

(06:16):
do you treat wife? Like all of that ship matters?
So when he was born, it was like, man, it
was it was an eye opening from me. And honestly, man,
I feel like it's it's nothing like it, Like I
can drop the ball today and take care of my
kids for rest of my life and be cool. So
tell me your thoughts on coming back this season. I mean,
I know, I know you love giving back to the community. Um,

(06:38):
you wanted the community and since award in two thousand
and eighteen throughout nineteen, Um, tell me your thoughts on
coming back and playing without without having fans that are
like how would that feel that's tough. I feel like
it's tough. I honestly, I said, we might as well
playing the practice facilities if we're gonna do that, like,
you know, because it's it's it's gonna have that dead feeling.

(06:58):
It's gonna be like a practice and you gotta find
that energy, you know, within the team to be able
to play. So I think it would be I understand
it from a health perspective, like you gotta you gotta
protect everybody at all costs, you know, the players for
sure first and and you know go from there. But
at the same time, I think it's tough, you know,

(07:18):
from a business standpoint, even with the owners, like everybody's
losing money. Uh, you know, we're uncertain of if we
come back, how many games we may play, especially teams
who like us, who were in the cusp of ninth
who got like four or five games that they're out of,
Like do we get those games that do we not
get those games? So it's like it's tough, you know.
And then we've been sitting out coming up on two months,

(07:38):
two and a half months, so you know, that's gonna
be tough for a lot of guys to get back
into the groove. And it ain't like we can just
go from zero to a hunter back onto the floor.
So it's a lot of variables, man, But me personally,
I hope we get back to open hill. I was
I was killing, right, was killing. Yeah, you were in
your gu We're gonna get to this later, but you're

(08:02):
speaking on it. Tell me what you were in You
are playing on another level. Where were you at? Mentally
explained this because to me that you're playing the best
basketball of your career. He was in his bag. You know, Honestly,
my my whole goal was to make the playoffs, and
by any means whatever, it looked like that's what I
wanted to do. Everybody was like, oh man, he was
mad about All Star Like, yeah, it made me. It

(08:24):
pissed me off. But at the same time, man, it's
like that doesn't define me as a player. That don't
make me and I know that ultimate goal at the
end of the day is to get this team to
the playoffs and try to win the championship. Like that's
everybody go like my gear shifted Like a weak minded
person to me in that situation would have pouted. I
would have said, man, after the NBA f A, everybody

(08:46):
after my team. I'm not coming out here to move
no more. Like I'm you know, I'm off it. But
I just kind of flipped it, man, like it is
what it is. Congrats because I got. I got my
little brother, Jayson Tatum, I got that was his first one.
So I'm kind of the same happy for guys, you know, Donna,
I mentioned to trade youngs, you know, the guys who
made it their first time, because I was in those
shoes two years ago when I first got my first one,

(09:07):
you know what I'm saying. So I can't take that
that feeling away from the other twenty four guys that
deserve it. You know. To me, it was just like
get back in the gym, but your ass grind, have
that chip on your shoulder. I love it. Talk to
us a little bit about you. You just spent to
Jayson Tatum. You guys do a lot of giving back.
You guys recently just raised almost three hundred thousand dollars
for the St. Louis Area Food Bank. You guys both

(09:28):
teamed up past last week to do pizzas and I
saw you just did something yesterday and breathed bind I
missed it, but you also donated computers or something yesterday,
if I'm mistaken. So, I have a school here in
d C and UH called Ron Brown College Prep. It's
a it's a pretty much all black schools, a public school,
but it's a it's a private school basically, so it's

(09:49):
they dressed private, it's private criteria, um and but it's
publicly funded. So these kids getting college prep, you know,
education for free. You know, I grew I went to
an all white boys school in St. Louis that I
had to pay for that joint but it was eighteen
grand a year. But luckily I was on the academic

(10:10):
scholarship to where I didn't have to do that. So
that was my out. And so the last couple of
years I was basically trying to explain to them, like
the advantage that they have, the opportunity they have in
front of them. And it's a three year old school.
So this year is the fourth year. This is the
first year that they have seniors, and so uh, this
past year, I've done tours for them for a couple

(10:31):
of HBCUs around the d C area, Howard Morgan Park, Hampton, Uh,
I said Morgan Park Morgan State, and uh, just to
get them a field of for the college life. You know,
they have opportunities right here in front of them. And
so granted with the pandemic, they weren't able to finish school,
and so I purchased laptops for all the seniors there

(10:53):
for them to be able to finish what they senior
years so they can graduate. That's amazing, man, That's that's
the kind of stuff you don't really get a chance
to hear too much about the overall scope of just
being able to give back. You know. I think during
while we're playing, we're so in the flow of just
sports highlights this and that. And then then if it's
not that they're highlighting the negative, you know, they never
really shine. And and I know you don't do it

(11:14):
to get recognition. None of us do what we do
to get recognition. But it's good to be recognized because
they're always outside of us playing. Their only picture, their
painting is the negativity, you know, So I think more
more light needs to be shining to the positivity because
a lot of people are doing a lot of great
things and you're right up there with them. So we
definitely appreciate that so the last Dance premier last weekend. Um,

(11:37):
you got a chance to see the behind the scenes
m J Bulls. I tell people it's a lot like
because they didn't have social media back then, and Mike
was never someone that really got to open up for
the world to see. You know. I think we take
for granted these days that someone like you was on
social media, Lebron, everyone opens up and you get to
see more of our lives. But that ship wasn't like
that back in the nineties. So looking at it now,
what are your thoughts on being able to see behind

(11:58):
the scenes and what you seen so far? You know
what's funny, I said, Damn, I feel like Mike sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah,
A lot of my can't say that. It was like
dam sometimes like I feel you like like when you

(12:22):
have Pip out, like it's like having John out vice
versas like it's like damn, Like it's tough. You know,
you gotta carry that, you gotta carry that night in
the night out. And granted, you see the physicality, you
see the grind, you see that it was a different
brand of basketball back then, and watching it, it's like, man,
you have nothing but the utmost respect for him just

(12:45):
to see where he was and where he got to
and like the amount of time it was and it
was like it was the snap of a favor. Like
somebody told me the other day he only he averaged
thirty every year, but two years, Like I didn't even
know that ship. That's crazy. This is my first year

(13:06):
average and thirty And I'm like this as hard as
hell to don basis. But m was a problem man.
It put a lot of things to perspecially just like
you said, how how the game was physical back then,
and to average thirty two. To keep pushing yourself, to
keep finding ways to challenge yourself, you know what I'm saying,
to to keep being better with all the things that's

(13:27):
the organization to get you against you, your best, your
best teammate down. Like with all that, he still was
pushing himself and still continued to be great. Bro. A
lot of people don't know how hard that is. It's tough.
It is so tough. But you you definitely respected. You
have no choice better respect. And I think the fact
that he's able to put it out their lives because

(13:48):
we know how private MJ is, but he blessed us
with this. It's like he reaching a lot of people
with this. When he's gonna touch a lot of nerves too,
y'all gonna learn today, y'all gonna learn what he's saying.
But I think it's important we have to realize how
special we are to get this kind of information, because,
like I said early, he's the one guy, you know
what I mean, Kobe did the rest in peace later

(14:09):
in his career, open up and kind of let us
see the other side. You know, Lebron has been the
poster boy for just you know, showing what the what
his whole life is like. We never got that with
m J. We you know, we never really gotten to
hear Mike speak too much. It was always business Mike
and owner Mike and all that. So if this ship
is dope to just be able to sit back with
him with a drink a yak right next to him,

(14:33):
you already know. I wish it was a joint, but
you already know, like sitting in getting in his bag,
like you want to know what this ship was like.
I'm gonna tell you exactly what this ship was like.
And this ship is amazing, man. I'm excited. This is
gonna be dope. I can't wait to see what they say, Well,
Rod Rod in Vegas, if they got any footage of
him in Vegas, I'm gonna losing. Someone made some cartoon

(14:57):
mean yesterday and it was Rod sitting down talking about
how he broke his dick three times. But it was
cartoon anime. That ship was insane. I'm like, they're really
about to get in their ship. You didn't even open it,
did you? Jack? I told you, I'm not watching it.
I'm not watching it anyway. Early days. Man, you grew

(15:18):
up in St. Louis, shoutout St. Louis. Your mom played
basketball Kentucky. And you know what was the integral on
on you? Growing up in the game, loving the game,
critiquing your shot. Talk to us a little bit about that.
It's man, it's amazing. Man. And my parents they're both together.
I came. I'm coming from a family of five. It's
five boys, man, all boys, two older brothers to right

(15:42):
in the middle. All boys. And the funny thing is
all my brothers were the college for football. How about that? Wow?
You the only one and it's sick and I'm the
only one. And it's sick because I love football, like football,
it's my hard love but it's amazing, man, because my
mom put the ball in my hand. She taught me
how to shoot. Still to this day, she blowed my

(16:05):
phone up. If I have a badass shooting night, you
need to get your ass in the gym. You ain't
doing what you're supposed to do. But I love it,
and it's like it was moment I'll say to this
day like she was the toughest coach I ever had,
like still to this day, because she's probably the only
person whoever made me want to quit the game. I
was like, and she pushed me that much. I've never

(16:28):
had that, and I respect her so much for that.
I love her for it, and it's definitely another reason
why I go out there and play the way I do,
because it's like she she ain't waste all that time
exert her energy into me for nothings. No, No, you
got one of the prettiest, purest strokes in the game.
So ship, that's because she was on your ass. That's
why at the early age Ray Allen clips watch this

(16:51):
guy a hand who I love that? Who did you
patt in your game? App? I know obviously is one
of your favorite players, but who did you patted your game.
I always say these three it was Iris and Ray
Allen and d Wade. Yeah, I say that because they
had it was a mix of all three of them.
Like I love the way Ray shot the ball. It

(17:13):
was silky smooth, alan Irison could put the ball on
the floor, get whatever you wanted. And then d Wade
was just a fair score. He could score it on
three levels, but mainly he was he was a mid straight,
mid range killer. And that's what I loved about him,
and the fact that he was undersized at the two,
and so that was always my label coming into the league,
being under size in my position. So I always looked

(17:34):
at the way it's okay, this is what I need
to do. Talk to us a little bit about what
your recruiting process was like. Obviously all the accolades in
Missouri Mr Basketball and and uh, you know the Greater
Rade National Player of the Year. What was your recruiting process? Like,
it was crazy? So and then my top five were Florida, Kansas, Duke,

(17:56):
Ohio State, and and what was the last one, I
want to say, Illinois, Illinois yea. So for me, it
was hectic. A lot of people don't know I committed
the Florida with my sophomore year silently to Coach Donald
and nobody knew. But I continue to engage with other
schools to go through the process, you know. But I

(18:18):
knew where I was going at the end of the day,
but it came. But I came out next year my
junior year verbally and announced it. So my senior year, um,
I'm about to sign. And so literally the night before
I'm about to sign, my mom caused me in the
room and says, where are you going to Maround. She

(18:40):
didn't know, She says, like, I didn't tell my parents.
I committed the floor like nobody knew but me and
Coach Donald. Right, So she's like, where are you going?
I said, Mom, I said, I think I'm going to Florida.
She didn't say nothing. So the next day, boom, I'm understand.
I got all my hats in front of me, got Florida, Kansas, dude,

(19:03):
Ohio State, Illinois. So I'm looking I'm giving my speech
and I'm looking at moms and she's like, like, well,
you better say the right school. So she wanted me
to go to She wanted me to go to Kansas.
Kansas is four hours from the same stay close to home,
right down the street. But me, I wanted to get

(19:23):
the hell away from St. Louis. I wanted to get
as far as I could possibly go and be on
my own. So I'm understand, I said, I'm going to
the University of Florida. She got up, walked out. I
didn't say nothing, didn't clap, I didn't talk to her.

(19:44):
Living in living in the same house, living in the
same house. That's doing in the same house. So how
did you guys finally break the ice and start talking again?
And honestly took my dad and my two older brothers
to kind of really break it down to her to
get her to understand, because she never missed any of
my games from grade school all the way through high school.

(20:05):
She was at every single game, and so for me
to go eighteen hours away was like a slap in
the face to her. Like even if I went to
Duke like that was fourteen and she was like, damn,
that's too far. So I'm like, Kansas, cold as hell,

(20:27):
you know, it's four I was away. It's too close,
I said, I just I just can't do it. And
so it just eventually came to the point my older brothers,
one with the Northern Illinois the other one to Alabama State.
So once five hours away, once twelve I was away,
and so I'm like, Mom, you gotta you gotta let
you gotta let the you gotta let the let the
bird fly. You gotta let me go. So enough ship.

(20:49):
She she let me go, and the rest was isty,
what was your experience? And go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. When I was this is the story I
always try to tell my my a U kids, because
I got a AU team now. So when I went
to college, one thing I always try to tell my
mom said, once I go to school, you ain't the

(21:09):
coach no more right. She calls Billy Donaldan why my
son ain't getting the ball? And man hung that phone
up so fast on us and called me in the
office that, man, I don't ever have your mom called up. Wow,
Mama's don't play though, man, Yeah, you know wrong. Man,

(21:31):
I'm not even I'm not even mad at it. You
ain't even man loved it. I loved it, but I
was like, damn the fact that he hung up on her.
I said, Moms, she never had that, she never had
a coach disrespect her Lord like felt like that was
disrespect like, but he was like, no, I got this
stays to St. Louis. I got him. I got him.

(21:55):
But you definitely love it for But that was that
was a crazy like yesterday, moms. What was your experience
like in Florida? Like, I know, I know you recently visited,
went back and we went visit with Joe Kiemno and
al Halten, But what was your experience like in Florida?
It was short. I was only there for a year,
but I was a nerd. That's what a lot of

(22:16):
people don't know. Uh. I was smart to say my
major was biology premit, so I was on the way
to be a doctor. Like that was that was my bird. Yeah,
that's what That's a lot of people don't know. I
was at four point though. That was I was. I
was a geek, that was But it was it was short, man,

(22:36):
it was short. We the hoops season was great. I
was definitely on the fence about coming back for my
sophomore year, but coach Donovan eventually just kind of gave
me the kick out. He was like, he said, you
have a chance to be top three in the draft.
He was like, I can't. I can't hold you back
from that kept real, which he kept, he kept real.

(22:58):
And that's why that's why I since day one. Oh,
that's why chosen because he told me from day one,
he said, you're not gonna he said, I don't guarantee
you're gonna start. I don't guarantee you a lot of
playing time. I don't guarantee you the ball. He's like,
but I do guarantee that you will work hard, be
a better man, and get better every day. And I said,
that's where I want to go. M hm. I mean
you went there for sec freshman of the year average

(23:21):
nearly fifteen, went to the lead it, and then it
was time to take your talents to the league. Huh,
trying to get about it. There, it's time ago, it's
time to go. What are your thoughts on one and done?
You know we've seen recently Jayden Green jumped to the
G League, Isaiah Todd jumped to the G League. Um,
you know the NBA. I'm sure within the next few
years is gonna open it back up so guys can
jump straight to the NBA. But how important you feel

(23:43):
like college that when your college was to your success
and being drafted number three in the game. It's tough, bro,
because I feel like if you're talented enough and the
league knows it and you know, the scouts north and
then you should go um. You know, especially with the
way the n C Double A is now, like I
feel like they're holding a lot of kids back, you know, um.

(24:04):
And then on top of that, a lot of kids
basically go to a lot of them are wanting done
and so college. In a way, I feel like it
was beneficial for me. But at the same time, I
do think there's been official game in the G League.
You know, you get you get the experience, you get
the NBA experience, you know, you get coached under that

(24:26):
type of that type of chemistry atmosphere, and then on
top of that, you get a little change in your
pocket with that. Granted you ain't getting millions in the
G League, but it's enough to enough to enough for
a kid who nineteen years old at that time, I think,
and go either way. I really hope at the end
of the day, the NBA kind of grab hold of
the ultimate decision, um, because I think the the n

(24:46):
C Double A kind of is just a little it's
a little too corrupt for me. And uh and the
college coaches at that too. You know, it's like, what
is your like, what is your game like? What is
your what are your motives with the kids? You know
what I'm saying, a lot of them more money in
they pocket, a lot of them want to keep your
kids for four years and you know, to get that
prestige of the school or whatever. But it's like, what

(25:10):
is what are the real motives behind the coaches there
versus you know, in the league, it's it's nothing but
pure development. You know, it's it's either you get better
or you don't have no job. Period. Yeah, you eat,
you eat what you kill. You recently joke with Tatum
on r G Live last week about you know this,
this very conversation. He said he still might have gone

(25:32):
the duke, and you made a joke like they must
have been paying you know, they must have been paying
you six undergrad. You guys went back and forth on
that talk to us a little bit about that. That's
what's funny. That's just Jason, my brother man. I don't
think they gave him a dollar here. He not like that,
He wouldn't he. I don't think they game a dollar.
His mom wouldn't his mom, Damn sure, ain't going forward.

(25:52):
So uh, it's all It's all love and I love everybody.
A duke to coach K know what it is almost
I know he's still he tells me to this day,
he's still mad at me for not going. So it's
it's number love with them. But it happens. You know,
we see it, We see it out there, so yeah,
it is what it is. It is. But to me,
I just think that the NT double A is almost

(26:13):
driving kids away with their outdated policies, you know what
I mean, Like you don't make it beneficial at all
to really come to college. You know, like you said
that the longer you stay in college these days, you
know that, the lower your draft stock drops. So you know,
it's almost like with their old, outdated rules, I think
college is going to be a thing of the past
for the top players here on out. Yeah, it has

(26:34):
to be. That's why the league gotta grab hold of
it because just like you said, as young as you know,
the league looks at younger guys every year, every year.
And there's something I always try to tell my au kids. Man,
every you know, the draft is thirty guys guaranteed, you know,
and you know you got another thirty who could possibly
make the team. So and then on top of there's
only four hundred and fifty of us total in the league,

(26:57):
you know, so calculate how many guys are just shifting
and in and out of the league every year, you know,
So on top of the guys who are hungry coming
up from the league, on top of for the guys
who have been pros some fifteen sixteen overseas, like, it's
it's a lot, man, And that's why it's a true grind.
You gotta respect everybody in the league, respect every opponent,
and really grinded out. Two thousand twelve, your drafted number three,

(27:21):
A d goes one, you go three, Damn Lillard goes six,
uh Drumming goes nine, Draymond Green goes thirty five. You
got any memorable moments of you know, the draft or
your rookie orientation, any of that kind of stuff. My
draft night was crazy. For one, it was my birthday,
so that was the best day on birthday ever. Came

(27:42):
a millionaire on your birthdays, just her nineteen, So that
was boom. That was That was love for me. And
then on top of that, the whole night, I kind
of had a feeling I was either going to go
two or three. We knew A D was going one,
so I didn't knew I was going to Charlotte at
Washington and so but when we're sitting in the draft room,

(28:03):
sure enough, my agent tapping me, was like, it's possible
you might go to Okay, seem that's that's it. I said, Damn,
how am I gonna go there? I ain't even work
out for Okay. See, I only worked out for three teams,
you know, So I'm like Washington, Cleveland and uh and Charlotte.
I'm like, it's hard and still it's when hard. That's

(28:24):
when Harden was still in Okay. See. So the deal
was to trade James to Washington, right, Okay, see gets
the third pick. No, it was either the second or
third pick. They were going to trade up to two
or three. Get me trade James to Washington for you,
then for me, and then that's when like that it

(28:46):
could have been in there, okay see with Katie and Russell,
I mean obviously hardness who was hard? But yeah, a
dead spot up shoof. That would have been fun. That
would have been crazy. I love hearing stories like that
because nobody knows that kind of ship, you know, I
mean nobody knows that you were im was traded for
Harden on draft deck. That was like, that was last
minute decision. Really, it was almost it was almost done. Yeah,

(29:10):
what was your welcome to the What was your welcome
to the NBA moment? Was it that or was it
something else? Hell? No, it was my first exhibition game.
It was funny because my first expibially game was in
Kansas City, so I had my family. I'm at the
career basically, and it was against the Miami Heat Lebron
d Wade and Damn Chris bosch Off winning the championship. Nice. Man,

(29:39):
I'm growing up watching these cats, you know. So I'm
a Lebron family d Wade fan. I'm a I'm like, damn,
come out here with these guys. Let me see what
this boom dum dum dum pump fact file. I'm like, man,
they got every vet move, welcome book, welcome I said, yeah,

(29:59):
I got when to go for show. But outside of that,
after that, being your first taste in the preseason, once
the season hit, what was like your one moment, like, okay, shot,
I'm here now. Mm hmmm. It was tough because I
don't I don't remember ship from my rookie year because
it was that bad. Like we were bad. It was.

(30:19):
It was horrible. We were bad. Like John didn't play.
I knew it, and I knew John was out like
the first thirty games him and name. So I was like,
I remember, I was thrown into the fire. So I
was pretty much a deer in the head likes and
I just the only thing I knew was that I
had good vets. I had my O G. Sampasll with
me and he was and he was basically molding me.

(30:44):
So it was. It was rough. It was rough. My
rookie year was tough. Shout out to saying my funk
was saying, it's a good dude. Right. A lot of
people don't know that you and John were close before
you even got drafted. Tell us that that relationship developed.
So John. I knew John in high school. Uh, he
was in college about to get about it or we

(31:05):
wanted doing. Uh. So we basically met my last year
playing a U ball in my junior year and uh
he came out to l A where we were playing
and watch me play watch other guys playing here. We
exchanged numbers and we've been cool since then, and it
was amazing. Two years later here I am Bloom drafted
to the Washington Wizards, and so it was I mean,

(31:27):
we just kind of took off from there. He was
always been a big brother figure to me, and you know,
we've it's been the same since then. You know, we've
just constantly grown, we've both matured, and you know, it's
it's that's my big brother man still to this day.
I mean, we all we all know, y'all relationship, you know,
and we know how to owe the media try to
twist things on the outside looking in. But tell me,

(31:48):
tell me your thoughts on the media. What you think
was the worst bullshit? Had a big bullshit headline that
he said about you and uh you and John Wall.
The one that everybody keeps saying is that we don't
like each other. M hmmm. I think that's the one
that that pissed both of us off because for so
long we were both young and immature that we let

(32:11):
the media stirred up to where it kind of both
affected us like it affected me. I was like, well,
damn it is he really thinking like that, and it's
like he's like, damn, would just be really feel like that?
And so it was like a slight it was like
a silent tension. It was like but then it came
to a punch. It was like, well, let's nip this
ship in the book, like because like we never had

(32:34):
any beef. It was nothing that he did that provoked
me or that I didn't like and vice versas. So
it was like we really just broke. We just had
a We just had a man of manners, like, bro,
you got a problem with me. You know, you got
a problem with me? You know. So it is what
it is like lead the media, like let the mothers
do what they do, like leave it, leave that out there.
And so we're gonna rock the way we rocked. And

(32:54):
we just both understood that hill. We both needed each
other to grow, you we both needed each other to
win and you know, help this organization be what it
needs to be. Said the same thing we had him
on the show. He was like, man, you know that's
my boy. Like they say that bothered him too, because
he's like there's nobody that he would want to go
to wall with more than You's nobody that he wanted
to be on the outside him more than you, and

(33:15):
he hate what people on the outside try to twist that.
But he said, he said, the same as you said.
Y'all know your relationship and that's all that really matters.
So you know, I said, we already knew that from
the outside looking in. I think what people get misconstrued
to is the fact that we both like kind of
alpha dogs and so like, like we both want to
take to the shie at the end of the game.
Like that's just that's just who we are. Like, and

(33:37):
guess what, I wouldn't want nobody else to take it
but him if I'm not taking it so right, that's
just you know, that's just that's just our mindset. And
I feel like we both understood that, and we used
that to fuel each other, like like in a confident
way to where it's like, man, it's gonna be, it's
gonna be, It's gonna be so beautiful when you come back,
because now I'm in the space and mentally and my
game is where it wasn't like when he was at

(34:01):
his all star level, Like it's I'm excited for it
for sure. Well that's why, you know, I think myself
and Jack were so critical on outside media because we
are part of the media now technically, but they don't
realize and fans don't realize how powerful fake bullshit is,
you know what I mean, And because we know chemistry
is the most important thing. And like you said, I

(34:21):
think it was amazing you touched on that there was
a silent tension like the bullshit had you guys question
each other when you guys are funk with each other
from the whole time, you know what I mean. So
that's why I'm so critical when I see bullshit. I'm
an call bullshit. Jack is the same way, because like,
don't start that bullshit because you in there trying to
funk a whole locker room pup off off something that's
not even true, right, And we've had that plenty of times,

(34:45):
tis times to count, straight up. He told us a
story about how, you know, when his mom passed, you
drove with it four hours down to you, you know,
out of the blue. He didn't ask you too, you
just did out of the kindness of your heart, you
know what I mean. He said that really struck a accord,
and he really knew how down you were for him.
So when you hear the integral details that you give

(35:05):
us that he gives us, and then here the narrative
that they're trying to push. Man, it botherses the funk
out a lot of people who really know what's going on,
as they ever told you that because he made it
clear to us like that meant the world to him,
Brod for that he hasn't and a lot of other
people have definitely told me, like the people around him
have told me the impact that he that has had
on him. And and it's it's amazing, bro because I've

(35:29):
never seen that side of him, and God forbid I
ever see that side of him again, like still to
this day, Like I don't. I don't know how he
do it. You know, his pops passed when he was younger.
You know, he was basically the man in the house
when he was a kid on till now and now
his best friend is gonna. And when that happened, it
was crazy because we were actually flying to Charlotte to

(35:50):
play Charlotte that he said, and they live in Raleigh,
and as soon as we landed, bro, he got the
news and it was like they were blowing my phone up,
like wherever you at wet. You gotta go find him.
We don't know what he's not answering. I'm like, damn, okay, boom,
where you at, bro I'm in the room. I go
in the room. It's just man, it's ship everywhere. Like

(36:14):
it looked like a tornado hit the room. And I
could do number hug him and just hold him and
just just just keep them cool. Because Dog lost his
best friend. Man, like I cann'tly imagine. I said, Man,
after this game tomorrow, right, I'm gonna go ride down
with you, like she was in the hospital of the night.

(36:35):
I went down there, We rode down, stayed the night,
came back up the next day and played. But that
I know Dog was hurt. Man, I'm happy. I I
honestly don't think anybody else being there with it help. Right.
We had a similar situation. That's how Jack. You know,

(36:56):
Jack and I were already teammates when it happened with
my mom. My mom died and Jack was the first
one to pull up on me and like it it's something.
It tripped me out because the story was so similar
to how you were there for him, and at the
same where the reason why Jack and I were more
than teammates, more than friends, like we're brothers for that moment,
you know what I mean. Like, like you said, there's

(37:17):
no one else that could have feeled that boyd at
that time beside you and besides Jack, you know what
I mean. So I mean for myself and you know
John's already thank you guys, But that ship is tough, man. Obviously,
losing your mom, losing your best friend is nothing you
wish on nobody. But when there was someone there to
really hold you down, that really cared and it's genuine
like it, it hits different. So we definitely appreciate that, man,
no doubt. So so, uh, you agreed to a two

(37:41):
year extension uh in in in October um and to
to kind of keep your you know, your freedom, your destiny,
your control in your own hands. Speak to us a
little bit about how you approach your your your extension
and then you're thinking on that. I came down to
damn that the deadline of my decision, um, because I'm

(38:03):
I'm anna. I've kind of played Devil's advocate. Like the
whole year it was I'm wearing pros and cons of
you know, stand or leaving, you know, signing and not signing,
you know, do I wait and try to sign this summer,
or do I wait and trying to get traded? Like
do I wait and you know, play my contract out?
And so I had a bunch of options. And for
me it was I secured, what two more years of

(38:29):
I have two more years here? So well three And
so for me it was like that puts me to me,
I don't think I'm gonna hit my problem into them
with thirty and so I feel like that at the
end of this extension, it puts me right there. And
so it kind of puts me in the prime time

(38:50):
of my basketball and so it leaves me it still
gives me the flexibility with also giving my respects and
loyalty to the organization the drafted me. So I'm still
giving you all an opportunity here to make it work
with John, to make it work with everybody, you know.
So here we go. We got a couple more years,
and granted I think my extension is the length of

(39:11):
John's contract as well. So you know, we got this
is this is the time we got. So you know,
we're gonna see what we can do, and you know
we're gonna make it work. You spoke on it though
you've reached you know, super not supers used stuperstar status
with who you know, you're one of the best guards
in the game, hands down, and like you said, your
game has, you know, really developed. When John went down

(39:34):
almost how it was forced to you know, I mean,
like you said, you you felt like he was an MJ.
You know, when he lost Pip and vice versa. Now
with it coming him coming back and we talked to
him and how excited he is. He says his explosion
is back. He said, he's really ready to put on
the show. A lot of people said, you guys can't
coexist like like like you mentioned earlier, because you guys
are to Alpha's you know, you guys both need the
ball in your hands. What do you say to all

(39:55):
those people now that your game is at an all
star level. Obviously he's coming back from a off injury,
but he's going to get back to that level. What
do you think that you know, obviously the process of
that is going to be Like, I think it's gonna
be smooth, and I think it would be easy because
one we both are mature, like mentally, I feel like
me to three years ago, and like watching it. It's

(40:16):
funny because there's a team right now. We have a
young team, and so right now during the quarantine, we
meet every week and watch our playoff series from a
few years ago just to get just to get guy
some experience and learn, just to see the the great
and grind of it, just to see the adjustments made
and things like that on the fly. And so who
leads that, not to cut you off? Who leads that

(40:38):
you lead that? No, our team does. So our coaches,
I believe our player development coaches put it together. But
he definitely got John and os permission. So basically we
hop around from zoom to zoom and uh and give
input on the series. So uh, it's amazing to watch.
And I hate watching it because I'm like, I am

(40:58):
fucking trash. I don't we all got that. I'm watching it,
I'm like, why are you hesitating on your shots? Why
you ain't shooting? Why you ain't passed right there? Why
you ain't understands? Like, it's just like, man, that dude
three or four years ago, it's not who are like,
it's not me today? And I know that for sure,

(41:19):
and I just know that looking at John at his
level that he was playing that and I know the
level that which he can come back and be at it.
Two on top of where I've grown, I think it's
gonna be a picture perfect obviously. Yeah, I love when
you say you're a completely different player when I don't
think what the outside fan understands is obviously you your

(41:40):
your skill. Love us grown, But more it's mentally. It's
mentally understanding the game. People don't understand like you coming
too the game. You you know you could do your
thing like inside right now is doing this thing I say,
you don't learn how to play NBA basketball to like
your Some maybe people like third year, but fourth, fifth,
six years when you really got a mental understanding, like okay,
my my my athleticism has improved, my physical skills improved,

(42:03):
but the most important thing that has improved is my
mindset in my approach. Talk to us a little bit
about that. I feel like that was the biggest adjustment
I made in year five and six from when I
signed my extension and year five. My jump from year
six to year seven was when I was with an
all start year six. So you know you're saying, yeah,

(42:23):
you're six, So for me, it was that whole summer
was change your mental like be a killer, be a dog,
like go be who you were in high school and college,
like don't be so passive, and like, you know, make
your make you make your statement, like go be you.

(42:44):
And so in a lot I tell every I tell
people all the time like, honestly, yes, I work on
my game, but I'm confident as ill like I honestly
feel like nobody can guard me. I feel like you
can't be I feel like I can shut you down,
like I have that unlike the utmost confidence in myself,
And so feel like that carries my game to a

(43:06):
whole another level because if I feel like I can
do it, I'm gonna go out there and do it.
What has it been like stepping into the leader role now?
I'm assuming John was the leader before. I don't want
to miss speak because I wasn't in that locker room.
But you're definitely since him going down. You know, you
said he was your big brother, So I figured that,
what has it been like for you to step up
and take and take a more vocal role in that
locker room. It's not easy. It's not easy. I would

(43:27):
say we both had had that that footprint. You know,
granted he's the head of the snake, being the point guard, uh,
being our franchise guy, like he's he is our vocal leader,
and uh, it was tough. Not half of him basically
a year and a half. He missed a little bit
of the year before too, And so with that, it
was like I understood how difficult his job was of

(43:52):
playing point guard and having to get guys the ball,
and having to tell guys where to go, and how
to encourage his teammates when shots are falling, you know,
and and how to keep guys engaged in the game,
how to keep guys you know who rookies who go
back and forth to the G League, and how to
keep them engaged, keep them confident, you know, when their
opportunities might not be in front of them. So it's

(44:12):
it's a lot to juggle. It's a lot to balance,
and I feel like the biggest thing for me is
being able to listen, being able to accept criticism back,
and understanding who you're talking to, how you're talking to them,
how they like to be talked to. But it's it was,
it was a lot, and it's a lot for one
person to really to really balance by himself. But it's

(44:33):
definitely helpful that we have a group of guys who
are willing to learn and uh and who want to
win and work hard, like you can't beat that. I
think you hit on a great point. I remember Matthew
Johnson told me one time. Uh, you know, you can't
talk and treat everyone in the same way. You know,
you gotta know your players. You know, to be a leader,
you have to understand how to talk, how to speak
and to everyone cause everyone is different, how to be

(44:54):
able to push button. So now that you have that
fool like, you're that guy right now. So when joh
It comes back and you said it's a tough job
for one person to do, you know what I mean.
So now it's gonna be a much more calming presence
in the locker room now because you know what it's
like to be that head A one leader, and you're
getting another A one leader back. So now you guys
can really balance off each other and really take control
of that locker room. I think that's gonna be special. Yeah,

(45:16):
it'd be great. I think at the end of the day,
it got me out of my comfort zone and forced
me to be kind of more vocal, kind of be
firm because I'm more of a laid back, like I'll
come put you to the side every now and then
unless i'm really piste off, and then I'll get on you.
But John's the opposite. John W. Barker is your ass
and and and talk to you afterwards like and you know,

(45:38):
and and so I feel like that yang and yang
between us is what we need. Like, you know, you're
gonna have balance of what you need to be. You know,
it's a good balance. You're gonna have that time what
you need to be chewed out, and you're gonna have
the time what you need to be paid on the back.
But I think having having both of those are essential,
you know, and being able to accept both is essential
to what was happened between you and you you come
into where you're the leader of the team. Now it's

(46:00):
obviously worked. You have it thirty points now for for
for for rebound, six assists. I think putting you in
that role it's been beneficial for you because not only
you already had the confidence, but being this role now
it's not it's not just showed everybody that you can play,
but it's showing the guys on your team. Okay, now,
now when John get back, we can come into our own.

(46:20):
Now we've got our two stars that can take us
to the next level. How you feel now that and
what and what really snapped to you to from going
to the season you had last year to now averaging
thirty points. So the answer the last one what snapped
for me is I asked my trainer, I work out
with Drew Hamlen. I asked Drew about three summers ago,
I said, do you think I got average thirty in
the league? And we sat there and we were like,

(46:45):
with where my game was. It was like, it's possible,
but it's a it's a lot of stuff that you
gotta do better and add to your game in order
for you to do it. And so for me, it
was shooting more threes, shooting off the dribble more after three,
and get into the free throw line, and so seeing

(47:06):
all them things, and basically over the last course of
the last three years, that's all I've been asking my game.
It's been threes, get into the line, finishing, making my
damn free throws, and and just constantly growing. And then
before I knew it, I was at thirty and it was,
and it didn't feel like it was a stringent. And

(47:26):
then it didn't feel didn't feel strenuous every night like
it felt like in Rhythm thirties, Like I didn't have
to go out and be forceful and back o man,
I got a force and go get third. Yeah, I
got everything in rhythm like it was just an actually
flow for me to go get. It's in your package,
it's the full package. That's dope, man. It's been beautiful

(47:49):
to see. Like I said, I I caught you, you know,
going towards the end of my career, Jack, same thing
we caught you toward the end. But to see your
steady like you're someone who you could see the steady improvement,
steady improvement to where you are now, you know, And
it's obviously hats off to your hard worker effort, your
your mental approach, to to your trainer, but it's it's
beautiful to see because you're you're a perfect picture of

(48:10):
you know, steady growth and becoming the start you've become today.
So I think that's dope to see and dope to
watch as a fan. Man, I have to. I have
to because I look at James Harden, I look at Dame,
I look at Clay, I look at I look at
everybody to play my position, and it's like they're getting
better every year. They're adding something to their game, and

(48:30):
it's either you get with the program or you get
left behind facts period. You know what I'm saying. And
I feel like I'm gonna lead. I feel like I
can compete. I feel like I'm one of those guys.
And but you can't talk it. You gotta you gotta
do it, and it can't be spurts of it. It's
got to be on a consistent basis or the consistent

(48:50):
basis with efficiency. And so that's that's been my drive
over the last few years and just been especially this year.
It's just been really focused in on how I play,
what I'm doing, and honestly, I'm not an analytical guy,
so I say, after analytics and just go yeah, as
you should. Last February, you became the first player since

(49:12):
Kobe in two thousand and seven to have fifty point
games back to back days. You scored a hundred and
four points. Excuse me, a hundred eight points in twenty four.
Tell me what that was like, because that's incredible. That's incredible.
To even have to say, right, that's but you know
what's crazy. I remember I hear all y'all. You know,

(49:35):
I hear all the O g s talk all the time. Stack, Man,
I hear all y'all talk. And then I heard T
Mac talking te Max said Bill should have been had
a fifty point game right now, and I was, man, hey,
MC been taking a lot of jabs at me in
my career. Man, I was like, damn Mac. And so

(49:57):
I was like, okay, say no more. And sure enough,
I just knew I was due for fifty piece. I
was due for one. I would have nice, I don't
have forty seven, forty six, forty eight, And I'm like, damn,
it's two free throws. That's another jump. And it's like
I just started getting hungry. And then when I was

(50:17):
on the CUSP, granted, the only thing I hate about
the fifty point is we lost both games, lost both
of them. Joints really don't hold weight. But like I
was in the zone that, man, I don't I really
can't even explain it. Fellis like fifty like that, I

(50:38):
just went, you gotta explain it to us because we
don't know, Yeah, we don't know nothing. About fifty point,
So you gotta explain. I ain't touched, says high school.
So I don't know what that feeling like. I ain't
never going in my life. It was just being, like
I said before, having that mental confidence myself of being

(51:02):
the best player on the floor, being confident in my game.
It was one quote that Michael Jordan's said, they're resignated
with me throughout the year or two. He said, I
don't fear anybody because I trust my work that I
put the work in. Like I put the work. I
put the work in like on a daily basis, I

(51:22):
see myself. I know how hard I worked, I know
how good I am. Like, what do you what do
you to fear? What is theres nothing? Absolutely nothing? Tell
me is this urban legendar? Is that true? Did you
get drug tested after those after you went back to
back fifties? Yeah? I did, And they have to call

(51:46):
them random drug tests. Get the league. I love, y'all, man,
but come on, mans, we know these tests and random man, y'all,
y'all y'a targeting people? Man? Straight? Uh, if Jack dropped
back to back fifty points, you better believe come testing.
I'm gonna tell you what you're gonna finding that in

(52:08):
that p to a whole lot of trees. I love it.
I didn't know. I didn't know if that was because
I didn't know if you actually said it. But that's dope. No, yeah,

(52:28):
he not the first though. Some other guys on the
test us after games now crazy. Yeah, I heard that
insane right after the game. You got thirty minutes here
we need that. I just sweated athing out. I just yeah,
that was crazy. Let me tell you, Brad, when we
was in there smoking and that ship had to happen,

(52:49):
like having to come up clean on the spot when
you know you smoked before the game ain't easy. But
I did it. He's a magician, bro, Just just just
know that he's a magician. Yeah. I used to get
out two thou eighteen and two thousand nineteen All Star, right,
but you got snubbed you and you were you were

(53:12):
real vocal by it. I mean snub snub just an understatement.
You should have made it a lot before a lot
of those guys, but you were a real vocal about it,
and I would and I would be too. I feel
like I missed a couple of All Star games because
of nonsense. But you just flat out missed it off.
Hate tell me your thoughts about that, Joe, don't know

(53:33):
why that true. Granted we weren't We weren't winning games,
so I would feel like that's the only thing that
you can really plan on me, Like, but what is
the All Star Game? Like stars? You know, like it
was my perspective of it. It was like, what is
the All Star Game? What is this all NBA team? Like?

(53:54):
What are those accolades? Like those all individual accolades, those
aren't team based acculades. And so yeah, I felt I
felt disrespected. You know, I felt beyond disrespected, you know,
because granted, we know the fans are gonna do what
they do. You know, fans don't they got their their
voting percentages. We love the fans, they're going to vote
the way they vote, but the media and the coaches,

(54:18):
like I felt like that was beyond disrespectful and a
lot of the way I was playing to a lot
of them. Damn coaches, because all the starters are going
to be off the fans. We ain't getting more votes
in honest, I know that when I ain't even looking
for them votes. But I think as as the coaches,

(54:38):
I think we I think y'all shall know because I'm
kicking your ass every night, so exactly like I feel
like in that regard, Like, yeah, I feel like I
should be respected, and especially when the players voted me
to start in the game. That's what I had me
mind blown, Like the players voted me to start in
the game, and I don't even make the game. But

(55:00):
I don't make no sense that you know that. Let
you know, they got a whole bunch of people making
those decisions and making those votes, control of those votes
that never played basketball. They got kicked off their baseball team,
so now they want to come vote on basketball and
ship Like they're like, I hate that ship because it
don't make no sense. How could the players? How could
the players who play the goddamn game vote you as

(55:22):
a starter, but you don't. I don't make no sense.
I'm first team of common sense, Matt. I'm first team
on common sense. I didn't make no star games, but
I'm first team all common sense. You know what I'm saying.
That ship didn't make no sense at all. Thought zero
zero zero. You're trying to wrap my head around it.
I don't get it, but hey, I'm gonna keep working,

(55:43):
keep working. So you have a classic meme now over
four million views from a fan walking to the tunnel
that said you suck and the motherfucking face you made
to that fan like all you wanted, but you just
wanted my attention. Just say, what's up, Brad? Is something

(56:03):
that you suck in the face you made talk to
us about that ship. It was funny, dog, because you
know how hard it is playing Denver. You know you'd
be up to thirty seconds. So we won the game,
and we was hyped as ill, and so I had
about thirty five and so I'm running back into the
locker room. Geek. All of a sudden, I'm slapping hands Bill,

(56:25):
you suck. Come on, man, you serious? I said, you
just watched the same game I just watched. Ain't the
way you can believe that. I ain't what you can
believe that you don't believe that ship. That's what fans

(56:47):
will say anything just to get somebody's attention, know it.
God damn well, they don't believe. I mean me and Jack,
and you know they didn't throw a motherfucking poster at
Jack's face, and you tadder at one time we was
the playoffs that Jack got arrested for some ship and
they had Jack and the motherfucking jail outfit just to
you know, obviously just to get just to get his attention.

(57:08):
But I think that kind of stuff, Like I tell
people when I played, like I enjoyed interacting with the
fans and even while we play, because it just makes
it ship so much more special. I mean that that
fan is gonna remember that ship for the rest of
his life. You know, Jack is cool with the dude
that made the sign, you know, ship thirteen years ago.
Those are the kind of experiences that make our game
so dope because it's it's other sports don't really get

(57:29):
a chance to do that. Yeah, a lot of people,
a lot of people don't know. It's a lot of
these fans be feeling a lot of these streaks. Guys
be going on on the when they'd be getting hot.
So talking talking to players like that pits players often
they start going on the little streak and they pointed
to but like, it's your fault, your your team just
got That's fine, it's your fault. What's the craziest what's

(57:53):
the craziest road crowd? You feel like you've played, uh
in the arena craziest travel are like hectic fans or
both if there's both. We all know Utah hectic like
they just man, you got some stories about Utah. Yeah

(58:21):
about Yeah, I don't know if it's like that. Ain't
no place like Hill. Well, I mean, one thing about
Utah is not only okay. One one, you have the
fans that just someone racist or something, just die hard
Utah fans. But then you can't breathe it a motherfucker
the first minute, the first quarter. That's another thing. You

(58:43):
gotta talk trash. You gotta hear them talk trash. Then
you're trying to get in shape in the first quarter
because you can't breathe. Right there, it's a double whammy
double Why step back, and you got remember to lick
your lips because I remember used to play with them thisies.
She used to look like how the I said, how

(59:04):
the fund did Jack sneak a powder? Done it in
on the court? Cotton mouth and the hydra. He used
to be cotting out first quarter of cotton. My mouth drives, yeah, dog,
all them switches, all the switches though, the mother said
the mouthpiece used to be stuck to the side of

(59:24):
his lip like yo, bro just go so, have someone
sprayed some water somewhere in this area or licked them
up that Jackie used to go through it up there? Boy,
that was your favorite, Like, hey, that was your favorite line?
What was thing? Just walked by him? I just walked
by him, victim bitches lick them somewhere on the court. Hey,

(59:45):
Jack licked them ditches because that motherfucker's list would get
so dry during it. I'm thinking, like with y'all, TV,
I don't want people talking about my man like that.
So I could break up any kind of hectic situation
with Jack when I tell Jack Jack just licked them
bitches real quick. Any any favorite playoff memories up to

(01:00:08):
this point. You guys have some with you know, with
Paul hitting game winners and against the Southeast, a gainst
the Raptors calves. Anything that really stands out to you.
The whole Boston series. We need to call the TV
today and just tell him to play the whole damn series.
That was a great series. Man. We had I see

(01:00:29):
on that team this year, and so that's all we
were talking about, just that series and just how crazy
it was. He gave us fifty games too. That was
right after right after his sister passed, Like, yeah, that
was that was a tough time too, that was tough.
He got out there and got it. He got out

(01:00:50):
there and got it done. I tell me the difference
between Paul as a teammate and playing against him. Man,
when I first played against Pete Peers, he was in Brooklyn,
I thought Paul was the most arrogant asshole I've ever basketball,

(01:01:14):
the most talk ridiculous to you. I'm at the free
throw line, he on the bench standing up. I don't
see it. I don't know why they dressed. You know,
I don't see it. I'm me and free throw. Look
the fuck I knocked down my shots. Boom boom finished

(01:01:38):
the game. I knew we played them. Two weeks later,
I dunked his ass. I remember, he's okay, okay, it
isn't enough. The next year he was on that team,
and then he was the most amazing teammate, the best,

(01:01:58):
And I was like, damn, Like that's a true sign
of like a winner. Like the guys he with you're
rocking with. You don't on the other team who you are,
but give him fuming with my guys who we got
and I respected and watching them watching them night in

(01:02:19):
the night out. Still I don't even remember where a
year it was, from sixteen whatever, first one in the gym,
last one I leave. Still doing his routines every day
is band work, he lifted, He's still doing everything every
single day like it was clock. They don't realize how
shout out pp Man. People don't realize how good he was.

(01:02:41):
Hey talked to us a little bit about the Hall
of Fame class going in. Obviously Kobe, like we said,
rest in peace, Timmy kg All could be the the
greatest Hall of Fame inductee class we've seen. Do you
have any personal stories but any any any three of
those guys, any one of them, one one. You can't
argue none of them. And it's asked me if it
comes out of your mouth otherwise you know. Um. It

(01:03:05):
was the same with KG because KG was on the
Brooklyn team and so he was talking crazy right along
way Paul, so I got some of that action too.
I got some of that actions from him too, but
I was I was more so more I was always
cool knowing who KG was because Sam always told me

(01:03:26):
about him when I was younger in the league. When
Sam we used to play with him in Minnesota, then
with the Boston and played it was like he used
to tell me everything about how he carried himself as
a pro off the floor, Like just just everything about
him was just great. And the fact that he was

(01:03:47):
a dog. I feel like him and Dunking the best
two best power forwards probably ever play like you can't
argue that. I think it's amazing that they both get
to get in there at the same time. That's that's
dope to see. They came in together. And Sam Duncan
is always a damn one thing. I remember that shout

(01:04:07):
off to glass. I never clockwork. Clockworks still jab jab
jump off the glass. That's whatever you needed. Hey, I
was watching NBA TV yesterday. I happened to see it
and it was when I was with the Clippers game seven.

(01:04:28):
He was thirty six years old. We had not they
had won the championship year before. We locked him out
in the first round. But Timmy was going to work.
But you could tell he was at the end because
you know how when you get older, Jack, you know,
like when you take contact, you're falling all the time,
you know what I mean, Like just you know, you
fall out a lot more Timmy was killing, but that
motherucker probably hit the ground about thirteen times in that game,

(01:04:48):
but he was still killing. I think he was thirty
six or thirty seven. We got lucky and beat there.
Not luck we ended up beating him, but it was
amazing to see just he was still him until the
very end. It was beautiful. And I say that I
say that for Kobe. I say Kobe was one of
still one of the hardest guys I've ever had to
car late in his career, no question, because he remember

(01:05:10):
when I played him, he shot the ball about forty
damn times. But it was amazing just to see, like
his craft, that's the same song, like he still had
he still had the footwork, his pump, fake work. Look
look how many points he scored his last game. I mean,

(01:05:31):
that's that's a lot right there. He had a ratchet,
I tell you along That's that's why I tell peoplehen
they asked me who the hardest for me to guard
was him? Because like you said, it was the footwork,
it was the skill work he had. And then you're
knowing that when he takes that one or two dribbles
to the baseline, right, he's gonna shot fake you, but
you still fucking jump because he'll shot fake you seven

(01:05:52):
times because he's not gonna pass, you know what I mean.
Like if he gets in that move, he'll shot fake
you until you jump and foul him. And it was
just like, God, damn cold. That is crazy, bro, you
know it's crazy. Have you heard him? I heard him?
You heard him hiss before? Huh? Yeah, that's that's when
you have the ball. So crazy. Yeah. So it's my

(01:06:16):
first game playing against him. He's on the wing. I
think I want to say Sasha had the ball all
of a sudden, All of a sudden, it is said,
all right, that's and all of a sudden the balls
in his hand. I said, oh my god, that's all
you gotta do to get the ball. Yo. It don't
matter how loud the arena is. Your mama noise that

(01:06:41):
I'm trying to tell you. Don't matter how loud the
arena is, you're gonna hear that motherfucking hissing. The ball
better be in his hands and like the next three
or five seconds and if you have if you have
the nerve, if you have the nerve to shoot and
miss with after he hisses, go back on film and
just watch Cooke's face. If if that motherfucker hisses and
you take a shot and miss, he might look at
you crazy if you make that bitch. But if you miss,

(01:07:03):
I'm if looks he killed boy, you'd be struck dead
on the court. That used to crack me up? Man. Uh.
Top five duos of all time. Don't be afraid to
throw you in John in there if you think duo's
um hmmm, I like um. I like Penny and Shock,

(01:07:26):
of course, how can you doe? I like Penny Shack,
Kobe Shack. I don't know if you used I don't
know if you used Shack twice, you can't. You can. Yeah,
he's that motherfucking good. That's the other stage. Yeah uh yeah,
m hmm. Let me see. Yeah, that's what that's too.

(01:07:48):
I like I like I like the I like the
I'm a old I'm an old head almost so I
like to watch. I'm trying to think it's some old
heads duds. I like it. I like du Mars and
Thomas mm hmm. People don't remember that GP and Camp
mm hmmm. Stock him alone, Stock alone, It's a lot,

(01:08:09):
I would say, Mike Pierre, Kobe Shack, t mac I
mean not too mad. Penny Tenures in shack. Yeah, there's
d way Lebron, there's Stephie Clay, There's Katie and Russ.
There's Katie and Staff. There's do what was out there?
Damn wait? And then when you put it like that,

(01:08:32):
there's a lot. There's that ship was fire and ice,
fire and ice. That's you got a seven foot out
they're doing the same thing. There's six m three people
sleep on that. Tim Duncan and David Robinson forgot about
call or or Tony and Tim ship. No no, no, no, no, no,

(01:08:59):
no no, because you don't like to do that. One
of the best to no, no, no. Tony Parker was
not he was, hey, hey, listen and just look at
two thoughs when we won the championship. He didn't finish
none of them games. Tony Parker didn't finish speedy class
in that defense because Smart Barry was killing him. All

(01:09:19):
the point guards was killing him. He was I mean
he was only he was only twenty at the time.
He let let the man develop a little bit. I
mean men noban it was young too, but she was
cut from a different clock. You came from the States.
You came from the street. You came from chewing concrete.
I would have had another ship. He would have passed

(01:09:39):
me the ball. Dog if you're the passing ball. We
had nothing. Chill look at the ok okay, see game,
just imagine something. The next something be motherfucker. You gets
you hit six pays in the row and then motherucker
started looking you off and again in the Western Conference
game six to close it out. What you gonna think?
Hold on, but not me when he I'm in the

(01:10:00):
locker room, everybody in the in the locker room looking
at them crazy, and even I get I ain't gonna
say the coach name, but the coach come sit by, boys, man.
The coach comes sit between me and Tim Ducking to say,
y'all did everything y'all could. Somebody tried to be a hero.
But I ain't gonna say who said that? Uh so
so that so that story is why we can't. We
can't say I had six of them bad boys. You

(01:10:22):
gotta swing that. You gotta swing that. Yeah, if I
just made one, you gotta swing. That's all I'm saying, man,
That's all I'm saying. The toughest player you had to
battle with today, though, thank today. Yeah, Clay, James Harden,
anybody at your position, the toughest player. It's always, it's

(01:10:44):
really good battles between him to James and Clay always yeah, always,
Like I get I get joy out of that because
I know I'm getting their best at least with Clay.
You're gonna go at each other. Y'all gonna go at
each other. James ain't gonna go out, but you and
Clay you're gonna go out each other. But even for me,

(01:11:05):
like that's a challenge of Guarden James, like because at
the same time, like I study him, so I know
I know a lot of his stuff. I put some
of his his package into mine too, Like uh, like
I ain't know shameing my game, Like I know I
know talent in game when I see it, and I
pay respects to it. And James got game and for

(01:11:26):
sure he's in him and looking at his footwork, looking
at the like how he get his shots off, looking
at how he draw files like that, and it's because
like he's a game changer. Like I honestly feel like
we don't have the game. We wouldn't have the game
we have today if it wasn't for James because he
draws files so much like you see, that's all damn

(01:11:49):
the NBA is today. Yeah, he didn't master that. He
mastered that ship. But him Clay, Like I know Clay
is gonna be a hard nosed defender. He's gonna be
tough at hell trying to chase around on the other
end of the floor. I love going against Avery Bradley
and Marcus Smart because they don't they're gonna be passed
on defense, Like they're gonna file the ship out of me.
They're gonna take the balls sometimes and I know that

(01:12:11):
that's gonna be like that challenges me to get better,
Like I feel like that. I love that type of competition,
m because they're gonna bring it. They dogs. Yeah, is
it true that? Uh? Taking you back a little bit,
Nelly used to walk you to school when he was Jim.
How did that come about? Son? So he went to

(01:12:35):
University City High School and that's fere my mom Tom
So that's the it's the same, it's the city. So
that's where I grew up. That's where Jason grew up.
Let's hate them as when he grew up, Nelly grew up.
The whole sat lunatics. They all we all from U City.
So my mom taught all the same lunatics in high school.

(01:12:56):
And once they went on they know path the glory
and fame, and they would come back every now and
then to the school and stay with up to everybody
and be around in the city. And my elementary school
was literally a hundred feet across the street from the
high school, and so every now and then, like he
would popping and walking me across the street. He was like,

(01:13:19):
it was like you were stomping in your air force
last you were stomping at your airports. Once you know
you had over there over herd over. It's crazy. We
got we got, we got some strong yards. But people
don't realize, man, because I think people forget how influential

(01:13:41):
Nellie was to music when he was on top. You mean,
what did Jay say, the only only niggas move moving
units is in Pimp Pimp Juice and us. Like it was.
Nellie was at the top of the charts back then,
really putting on for St. Louis Man. He changed the
game for a long time. Definitely shout out to Nellie.
A lot of people don't know. They're kind of pay
the way for a lot of cuts. Man, he did

(01:14:02):
a of a lot of them. He had kids wearing
bad days on their face to the concert with no cuts.
They have no cut with the dud rag with the
head band on top. Who would you like to see
as a guest on our show? Now, before you ask
this question, if you say somebody, you have a plug
that that we can get him on the show. You

(01:14:24):
we got to use your plug. So who would you
like to see as a guest on our show? Because
we asked John this question, and that's how we got you.
I would either say Jay, say them we got him,
we got him today. Let me's see you got damn

(01:14:44):
damn would be good, damn liar, damn liar. Yeah, good
call most underrated player in the NBA besides yourself. Yeah,
I think as good as you are, I still think
you're underrated. Yeah, I would say everybody. I don't think
he underrated. But Drew everybody everybody said that. Every players

(01:15:10):
said Holiday, we gotta get Drew on here, we gotta
get him on the show. When I tell you, like
of people we asked that say Drew Holiday is fucking crazy.
It's not even it's not even funny. How talented he is,
like on both ends and the floor. Yeah, he just
don't say nothing playing with the most swag? What player

(01:15:33):
has the most swag? It's tough because everybody kind of
got like an ego, Like everybody got yeah they all.
I think Bronze is I think everybody like notices Bronze. Yeah.
I think Steph stepping away like in his little celebration,

(01:15:54):
in his little step way stuff trying to kiss you off,
like stuff like you do. Uh uh? What are you
currently binge? Watching black List? Oh? That's my show and
there's so many shows. I gotta catch up, but I
think I'm on like season three. I love black Lists? Yeah,

(01:16:18):
actually have black List is a good show man, good call.
Favorite quarantine, snack while you quarantine and what you what
you're snacking on? What ain't not snacking on? Right? My
go to is soft chocolate cookies. Someone else just said
that the other day, to fresh out the oven or
just a soft package like chips. Ahoy, you don't even matter,

(01:16:39):
so yeah, yeah, that's the only requirement. Favorite retro Jersey
I would say the old Raptors joints m M with
the dinosaur on it. That's a classic court side seat
at any game in history. Which game would it be
and who would it be? You know what's funny is hell,
I would have watched. My agents just sent it to

(01:17:00):
me yesterday. He was like, watch this game on YouTube.
It was Michael Jordan's. We just watched it last week,
Michael Jordan in the garden when he had six mm hmmmm,
epic epic game. You imagine being courtsided that she would
have been dope. Yeah, all right, man, Well that hey Brad.

(01:17:20):
We appreciate your time, man, thank you for spending it
with us. Best to lux you and your family. Stay safe, man,
and we're looking forward to seeing you and John get
back together. To Man. I appreciate you all boys now,
we appreciate you a little bro. Man, appreciate everything. Thank you. Man.
Hey man, that's a rap uh special Quarantine edition with
our special guest, Bradley Beal. We thank him for its time. Jack,

(01:17:43):
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about how this place forms a different kind of person.
On my high school team, we have five guys make
the NBA. We had the County Rocky. You mentioned Princes County.

(01:18:24):
People know it's about It's the mecca of basketball. There
are those who come before us, upon whose shoulders we
staying here for this area. You have to have tough skin,
and the gym became the sanctuary. E G County guys
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(01:18:47):
a lot of character. It's nothing that you can do
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This life was all I ever wanted. I'm not leaving,

(01:19:12):
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