August 24, 2021 • 32 mins
On episode 101 of ALL THE SMOKE, social media mega-star and boxer, Jake Paul, joins the boys to discuss his upcoming SHOWTIME PPV fight vs. Tyron Woodley. Paul discusses his training and preparation for the battle and discusses the influencer world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jake Paul has silently stalled his opponents, but his next
test against Combat Sports lection of Tyron Woodley, and he's
his toughest yet. Now the fight critics said Jake Pole
shouldn't never take He's here, he wants it more. Jake
(00:21):
Cole versus Tyron Woodley Sunday, August nine, at eight eastern
five Pacific lot on pay per view. Order now go
to Showtime dot com slash PPB. Welcome to All the Smoke,
a production of The Black Effect and our heart radio
and partnership with Showtime. Welcome back to another addition of
(00:53):
All the Smoke. What's going on with you? Jack Cooling?
My boy? Are you? I said you've been wearing a
little busy today. Man. I just literally ran off the
set of SPN to come to home to do this interview.
And I gotta go right back to ESPN to finish
out this free agent job. Yeah, come on, man, you
already know what it is. But we got a special
guest today, man, someone who has really man made a living.
(01:14):
I don't even know how to put this. This man
who just made a living off off being him and
it has been able to capitalize in several different fields
um a space season now is boxing? Welcome to the show, Jake, Paul, Jake,
what's up with you? Man? What up? Boys? How are we? Man? Yeah?
Just we're cool and chill, have a good living life.
Man's kind of out in the days to the fight,
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as you should. So we we spoke off camera. So
you're in Puerto Rico, Uh, in training camp right now?
Long have you been out there? I've been down here
for a couple of months now. Just focus, man that
there's no distractions here. Uh. And it's hot, like the
training down here will really get you ready. H And
you know that's what's needed, going through the tough moments
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down here in the extreme heat. And you know how
in one focus, one point of attention have you taken
training this series in your previous fights for this kind
of your new mold into hopefully heading into like real, real,
real time boxing. Now, all my camps have been very
very serious training and I've gone a hundred and ten
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percent every single time. You know, I do know that
this is this is my toughest opponent. But even in
my last couple of fights, you know, we were training
like I was going to be fighting the best fighters
in the world in that ring. Um, so you know,
I like to push myself as hard as I possibly
can and all aspects of my life. So well, first
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and foremost, congratulations on signing your Showtime Boxing deal. Man. Uh,
you know to kind of the journey you've been on
to be able to, you know, step into this business
and sign a real lucrative deal and thats hats off
to you and everything you've been doing in this space.
I appreciate it. Man. Yeah, it's uh, it's amazing to
be with with Showtime. You know that they're the best
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in the business and they get what I'm trying to do,
so uh, you know, being in partner in partnership with
them is massive, and yeah, I'm excited to do this
first show in Cleveland, Ohio with them, And you know,
I'm taking boxing very serious and I hope everyone can
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see that. And and going with Showtime is as about
as as serious as it gets. Yeah, Showtime is the best, man,
So welcome to the family. So, as we know, you
gotta highly anticipated fight with Tyrone Woodley, one time UFC champion,
that will take place August twenty nine at our Rocket
Morrigan Field House in your hometown of ohaw, are you
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know home home state of Cleveland, Ohio? What what is
it like being able to go back home and put
on a show for possibly kids that have never seen
a real life boxing match. It's so cool, man, Like,
I still it's still surreal to me. I don't even
know if it's really fully set in what I'm doing yet,
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but you know, going to that same arena as a
kid and watching Lebron play and now being able to
go back and be the center of attention and put
on maybe if you know what some for some kids
it will probably be their first fight that they're ever
going to. Uh, it's just a dream come true. And
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maybe you know, one kid out there in the crowd
will twenty years from now sell out that that same Marina.
You know. That's my goal is to inspire the kids
from my hometown with this fight and show them that
they can do anything that they set their mind too.
And my friends and family are going to be their
root of me on And you know, I'm gonna need
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it for this fight. I'm gonna need all the motivation
I can get because this is a serious guy. Tyrn
is not playing around, and he has knockout power and
so you know, I'm excited all the way around. Well
that's dope. I mean, you say it's kind of a
real and and kind of like a dream. But how
did we get here? How do we get from a
YouTube sensation to someone who is in this boxing space
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now and and and taking it as serious as you
have you know, roll. It might sound cheesy, but the
reason I got here just rolling with the punches, you know.
I Uh, I've done that my whole entire career. I
started off on Vine and then you know, Vine vanished
and and you know the app was deleted. So I
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had to you know, reinvent myself, move over to Facebook, Instagram,
started doing YouTube. Then I got on Disney Channel. Um,
you know, I'm a CEO, entrepreneur, businessman. Uh. You know,
so I've always just gone and adapted and been like
a chameleon in this space. And when I finally found boxing,
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I was like, oh, this is truly something that I
love and that I'm passionate about. And it takes me
back through my roots of being a kid, uh and
wanting to go to the NFL playing sports all the time.
That was really all there was to do in Ohio. Um,
and so it was really a perfect calling, and um
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I found my lane and Man, once I got my
first knockout in my first pro fight, I was just
addicted to the feeling of it. I caught the boxing
bug and the rest is really history. Man. I pretty
much just talk shit and have a lot of loud mouth.
And you know, I'm arrogant at times and controversial and
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polarizing at times. But I think that just adds to,
you know, the whole narrative here some people wanting to
see me get knocked out. Um, and so this has
just been a wild roller coaster and I didn't even
expect it to get this big this fast. Now they
ain't number one with believe it in yourself. Bro, are
you seeing to Woolley face to face a couple of times?
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What do you see in him? And what are you
taking this fight so series? Like you sound like it's
different than you have to fight. What did you see
in him when you've seen them face to face? You know,
just experience, Like I think with my other opponents, I
was able to get in their head, break them down
mentally before we even got into the ring. But Tyrant's
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done done this. Dozens and dozens of times more times
than me. So he's seen it all, been there multiple times,
has been on the big stage, done the big press conferences,
and so I see how experienced he is. And he's
been fighting for way longer than me. He was winning
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UFC championships when I was, you know, doing the Disney Hi,
I'm Jake Paul. You're watching Disney channels. So I just
know that experience in this sport is one of the
most important things, if not the most important things. Um
So I'm just not messing around. Um I compare. I
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mean there's been a lot of back and forth between
Hugh and him. Uh, ship talking. I kind of compare
you for your genre, Like you've mastered the ship talking game.
Like I compare you to fifty cent when it comes
to you, like doing the antics. You need to keep
the crowd going, to keep the buzz going, to keep
just the energy going. Where did you get that from?
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You know? I've always sort of been like the class clown,
you know, the one who is cracking jokes in school. Uh,
and genuinely just like to have fun. I think people
take life too seriously. I like to make fun of myself.
My friends make fun of me. I make fun of them. Uh.
And so that just really has carried over into the
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fight game and trolling and using the internet making memes. Uh.
And that that's really where it stems from. And genuinely,
I just like enjoy it. Sometimes I'll be post seen
stories or tweets and I'm just sitting there laughing because
I think it's hilarious, and like, I don't really even
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care if anyone else thinks's hilarious. I'm really just doing
it because I think it's funny. When you think about
your journey, and we'll get into your your your upbringing
a little bit. When you think about where your journey,
where you started and you said the vines and the
Facebook's I G. S. Disney to where you're at now
and the fucking boatloads of money you're making, did you like,
what what do you think about just that your whole journey,
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Like you're kind of a blueprint for this next generation,
like going out really going out there and getting your
own based off this social media life. Did you ever
think it would be this big? I really didn't. Um,
you know, It's it's crazy how far I've come from
where I've started. And I try to think about that
all the time I reflect and I'm just like, wow,
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this is this is crazy. The the younger version of
you would be so so proud and yeah, like you said,
I'm just figuring it out as I go, because I
think this new generation of kids, this new generation of
celebrities that have sort of been coined influencers, there's really
no blueprint. No one's you know, paved the way. But
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I think what this new generation is showing is, you know,
you can blend in in many different areas. You can
be a chameleon chameleon, you can you know, go and
make music, you can go do YouTube videos, you can
do TikTok's, you can fight if you want to. I
think entertainment now has evolved into one category and people.
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I think moving forward, we'll see that that's how that's
how you sort of rise to the top. Is doing
it all? I guess that. And and if you look
at the people who are the biggest in the world,
it's like the Rock right, like he came from fighting
in w w E and playing sports to then acting
to now using Instagram content. Uh so, you know, just
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playing the game differently is how you win in today's world.
Tell us a little bit about your your upbringing. Um,
obviously we all know Logan is or any other family
members and what would your childhood like. Um, it's just us, uh,
you know, just Logan and I and um, you know,
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I grew up in a blue collar family. My parents
got divorced at a young age, and um, I was
always like hopping back and forth from from each house
and my mom. At my mom's house, we got to
like have fun and you know, hang out with our
friends and get into a little bit of trouble. And
then I would go to my dad's house and it
was like work work, work, work, work, Um. You know,
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we would landscape and clean out gutters, snow blow houses, uh,
you know, clean out hoarders houses. Just my dad was
doing anything he could find a job, and um, and
we we would always help him out and just played sports.
Rode my bike around around the town. And this was
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before you know cell phones and uh and TikTok and
stuff where you could still go. You had to go
knock on the on your neighbor's door to see if
you wanted to play. And we were dig tong ditch um.
But you know, small town and um, you know I
never really like school or anything like that. I just
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knew there was something out there more for me, and
I wanted to be a business person or something along
those lines. But there was really no no, no one
from my town that I could like look up to,
you know, figure it all out. Um. But that's really it.
You have definitely made your path. And it sounds like
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your your dad was a really hard work or two.
What has it been like for you and your brother
to be able to now you've made it? You know,
you're at You're at the top of the top, You're
at the top of the food chain, you're making great money.
What does it like to be able to take care
of your parents? Um, you know, after all the sacrifice
they made for you guys as children. Honestly, it's it's uh,
it's amazing, you know. And and that's what I wanted
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to work for and towards, is to just provide a
better situation for my family, um, for my dad, for
my mom, and and to to not have money be
an issue. And I think, you know, we grew up
working so hard, um for you know, ten fifteen dollars
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an hour, and now you know the opportunities we have,
we still just want to work even harder because we
worked this hard when when all that money wasn't there.
And so you know, now I can set up I'm
in a position to set up my kids, you know,
or my kids kids one day to just everyone can
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can be okay, and just providing that different lifestyle. So
it's a it's a blessing. And um, you know, at first,
when you start to make money as a twenty year
old or whatever, you you know, you want to buy
the watches and get the cars and like flex and everyone.
And then you sort of get past that phase and
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you're like, okay, like I'm doing this for a different reason. Now, yeah,
that's what's up. You've definitely created joan path and being
able to create generational wealth within that. So after that
initial let me flex, then it's like, Okay, how do
I plan for my life? And it's dope that at
your age, you're you're understanding that already. You mentioned obviously
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training camp in Puerto Rico with how to ship out there,
it has you locked in. Um, who are some of
your training and sparring partners that that that that you've
been messing around with out there? Any big notable names? Um, yes,
some some really good guys. Uh So j Leen Love
who um has has always been a tot boxing prospect. UM.
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And then one of my sparring partners, Anthony Taylor, who's
from Bellator. Uh. You know, he fights a lot like
Tyrant and he actually now just got added to the
undercard UM fighting Tommy Fury, which is a sick, sick announcement.
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I'm stoked for that, um and you know, stoke for
Tommy to come over to the to the U S.
And it's gonna it's gonna be a tough fight. You know,
it's not gonna be easy. Anthony's a really good sparring partner.
He's you know, he's awkward. He he throws punches differently
like like an m M a fighter. UM. And then
I've been sparring with Derek Finley out here as well,
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and then some of some of the top guys uh
in in Puerto Rico. Uh So we're having, you know,
the best camp I've ever had and only getting better
and better every single day. You say, all your camps,
you train this hard for every fight, you know, regardless
of you for it. Little weekend has been whether you'reknocked
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him out. But uh, you say you change, you train
all these fights the same. Is there any difference fight
when you you know, because it sounds like you're taking
Willie more serious, But are you doing anything like different
for this fight? You know, we're just all getting better
as a team, uh, and understanding each other, from the
head coaches to the strengthen conditioning coaches to you know,
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my recovery my recovery coach who helps me on the
healing side of things. We're all just getting better and
understanding how we operate. So this camps is a lot
more smooth, and this is really like my job now.
You know, the first couple of the first couple of
times I was doing this, it was like, oh, sick,
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we gotta fight, you know, let's get ready and we
would just make it happen. But it's been back to
back to back training camps NonStop, so it sort of
just feels very natural. And I don't even remember what
my life was like before all these boxing training camps.
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Any any boxes you love, any boxes you love watching
growing up? You know Oscar de la Joya, you know,
I've I've been a huge fan of um and then
the Klitschko brothers were just always super, super exciting. I
like their style, like how hard they fight. Um, So
we study a lot of their film and I try
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to try to fight like them. I saw it. I'm
pretty sure it was you. You mentioned something about obviously
your goal in here is to help fighters get paid more, um,
whether it be FC or boxing, And I think that
kind of attention you bring to the sport is only
going to help us speak to that because, like I said,
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I think people want to pin you as a bad
guy and this, this and that. But when I heard
you say that, that was some real ship because particularly
you have ce these guys get funcked out of money
left and right. The lower end boxers don't really get
you know, most of these guys have to have second jobs.
So let me know your thought process when you spoke
to that, and hopefully you know you helping fighters get
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paid more. Yeah, so I think it comes from me
seeing how hard this sport is. Right. I played football,
I wrestled, I you know, have been an actor, been
a CEO of founding you know, multimillion dollar companies, and
there's nothing harder than boxing and fighting just in general.
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And I see how much sacrifice you have to make
and you're literally in there, you know, taking shots to
the head. And I think fighters are just generally underpaid,
and I think that's for a lot of reasons. But
I just want to help fix that problem, and I
think we attack that multiple ways. I think, first and foremost,
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we need the sports to become more popular and more fans,
more audience, which will naturally just put more revenue across
the board. And I think also just voicing it because
a lot of these young fighters get get sucked in
by promoters to long fight contracts and then they become
a star, and then their promoters just taking all their money,
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or in the case of the UFC, it's really a
monopoly where Dana White controls these these guys careers and
can make whatever fights happen, pay whoever he wants, whatever
they want, or pay them nothing um and and so
it just it just very very unfair. And what's crazy
about it is, you know, the UFC only the fighters
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only get paid ten percent of the total amount of
the money that's earned, whereas in the NBA it's fifty,
the NFL it's And meanwhile you have Dana White, you know,
going on Twitter talking about how he has spent seven
million dollars on a blackjack hand and lost it or whatever. Meanwhile,
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his fighters are starting to go go fund b pages.
And not only that, it's like, if you're in the
NBA and NFL, you know you have team facilities, you
have team coaches, you know, you get help on the
recovery side of things, you have the you know, you
get flown places. Uh, you know all of that is covered.
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As a fighter, you have to cover all your own expenses.
And I know how crazy it is. From the meals
to the gym's, to the coaches, to your strength and conditioning,
to your recovery team. It's expensive to be a fighter.
And so that's another thing that people don't even take
into account really. Um So I'm just like, damn, we
need to change this. And you know, I'm not I'm
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not gonna be able to do it by myself. But
I think just continuing to talk about it and getting
other fighters on board to talk about it is is
how we do this. It might take five years, ten years,
but let's do it, right. I think it's important to
spark their conversation. Um, talk to us about your new
uh your initiative boxing bullies. Yeah. Yeah, So super excited. Uh,
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you know, I just launched my foundation, which has been
a dream of mine since I was a kid, Like,
always volunteering, always helping out wherever I could, always giving back.
That's what my parents taught me since since a young age,
and I dreamt of one day being able to do
that on a on a massive level. And finally, after
you know, a lot of hard work and building out
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a team, UM, we launch Boxing Bullies. And the goal
of is is pretty simple. It's, um, you know, let's
get boxing gloves and the sport of boxing in two
and out to as many kids as possible in the world.
Because boxing, you know, gave me purpose, It gave me
something to fight for, and it kept me out of
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a lot of trouble, honestly, and I want to be
able to share that with kids as well as teaching
them how being a bully is not cool, because I
I used to be a bully and then I changed.
I realized it wasn't cool. And then going through my career,
I've been like attacked on the Internet and you know,
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those types of remarks, comments, all of that stuff lasts
with you forever. And so I think cyber bullying and
bullying is just a massive problem in this generation, and
I just wanted to voice up, raise awareness for it
and you know, show kids that's not cool, and that's
really our our initiative. And um, the first event went
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went super well, and it just inspired me to you know,
keep on going, keep on killing it with this foundation,
and I want boxing bullies to be massive one day
and really really make a change. Um. So it's something
I'm very passionate about. Yeah, because hal, because half the
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people that talk trash wouldn't say it and you face anyway,
So I appreciate you for starting that as well. Um,
the problem Child? How did you get that nickname? Yeah?
So you know, just growing up, I I was sort
of the problem child. My brother was like the goody
two shoe and never really got in any any trouble,
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and you know I was sort of, um, you know,
using my all this energy that I had for the
for the wrong reasons, getting in trouble, not paying attention
in class, and you know at first I was you know,
people wanted to hate on me for that, and like
my teachers would get me in trouble, and you know
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other kids in school would hate on me for for that.
And once I finally embraced who I was and didn't
really care about what other people thought, I felt very
free and I was like, this is who I am,
Like I'm I'm sorry, like I'm different, and I'm the
problem child. And that's that's really where where it all started.
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And then growing up I sort of tried to leave
that that part of me behind. But when the boxing
gloves come on, and you know, the lights are on
and the press people are watching and the press conferences,
that side of me is what is what comes out
that ship talking like a little arrogant, little crazy um
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because you have to be to get in that ring
and put your life on the line. And so the
problem child is really who I am when when the
gloves are on and and we're talking about boxing, and
I'm just I'm just a problem for for people in
the in the ring, and I I carry that energy
into sparring in every single day against my sparing partners,
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like I'm here to beat your ass, like I'm not,
I'm not playing her. Huh m hm. The tattoo bet
you did a Twitter pool and asked your fans where
t would if if you beat him, should put the tattoo,
and they said his face that we speaking obviously you
you know your mindset is you're gonna win. But if
you happen not to, where would you put the tattoo
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on your body? Not even a possibility that I'm not
even thinking about that ship. It's like asking me like, yo,
like after you walk on water, like what are you
gonna do next? Just not having it. I can't walk
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on water. I can't lose that answers that question. Do
you do you remember your first tattoo? Yeah? I actually, um,
it's all right here you can see it, but it
says adventure. I got it there because as my parents
always told me not to get tattoos, and so my
first one I got because you can't see it there. Yeah,
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they won't ever see it here. Uh but yeah, venture
it's like it means a daring or risky undertaking or journey,
which I feel like it's been my whole life. So
it's actually one of my favorite tattoos. Take me back
to who you were when you knocked our brother Nate
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Robinson out, to the fighter you are we're talking to
right now. Yeah, you know against Nate I was I
was just still very good I just wasn't fully aware
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slash fully a legitimate prow. I don't think that at
that time. You know, that was only my second pro fight,
and I still had a lot to learn, uh and
a lot to experience, you know, going through the fight
camp leading up to the fight and then being under
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under the lights on a massive stage. I've only done
that a couple of times. And so that you know
that fight and and really every fight you win, it
just takes you to another level of understanding of your
ability of being calm, not getting nervous, and turning more
into just like a seasoned fighter. And I've just gotten Yeah,
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I've just gotten so much better in between these camps.
And uh, you know, the fighter I am now would
would beat that that fighters ass pretty pretty easily, honestly.
M alright, man, we're winding down to the end, quick hitters.
If if you can, if you could go back to
one sporting event and watch a lie, what would it be? Man?
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I think either I think the first thing that comes
to mind are like the first Super Bowl or or
Mike Tyson versus Vander Holyfield. Oh that's a big one.
I wish I could have been there at that one. Too,
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have been soundtrack leading up to your big fight? What
are three songs that have to be listening to when
you get in fight mode? Uh? Definitely for this fight.
First and foremost is Until I Die by by mg K,
just because it's like repping repping Cleveland. Uh. So we've
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been we've been bumping that one, um, and then we've
been bumping to Two Chains by by g Herbo. Uh.
That one's turn uh. And then you know, I got
some I got some drake, uh some unreleased drake. Okay,
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you got you've got some v I P drake Huh yeah,
that's dope. Okay. Uh. Just remember when you're asking this question,
you gotta be able to help us with your answer.
Who would you like to see on all the smoke? Man?
I mean you might as well. You might as well
get my brother on for his next fight. That's easy, easy, easy,
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all right there, family plug. That's that's how it's supposed
to go. Yeah, stay lawyal lawyal to you, bro. I
like that ship. That's how I rocked. Man. I'm low
too low to me everybody else. All right, I'm taking
you to We're fast forwarding to August twenty nine. Your hometown.
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Motherfucking stadium is rocking, lights are on bill rings. What
can we expect from you that night? Who? Just an
aura of greatness and an electric, fast, sharp, hungry motivated
young man that will not be stopped. And you will
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see my bones go through Tyrone's head and he will
be out on the canvas. We'll be in the building.
We'll definitely be in the building. They're gonna be there now,
We're gonna be there. Hey, Hey, we showed time families,
so we're hey, we're front row at all the fights.
It ain't no different. We're gonna be there. Let's go.
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I'm gonna have y'all pull up to the after party too,
because you know that's part of the whole night. Pretend
your solo cameras on Tyrone. What would you say to him,
just like like right now, yeah, right now, looking to
your phone and whatever the ship you want to say?
Eight to him? Man, you know how I'm coming, bro.
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I'm telling you, I'm telling you straight up, stop buying
your US Bentley, Stop stop buying your your Nike little shoes,
your your Air Jordan's that are way too expensive for
you to afford. And take this last last paycheck of
yours and ride into the sunset. Buy some Ethereum, buy
some so Lana, buy some bitcoin, invest your money, and
(31:29):
uh stop being stupid with it. This is your this
is your last to rob Buddy, tough Tough Top. We're
gonna get t on two, so we don't have a
counterback for that, but man, make sure everyone out there
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All the Smoke. What's going on with you? Jack Cooling?
My boy? Are you? I said you've been wearing a
little busy today. Man. I just literally ran off the
set of SPN to come to home to do this interview.
And I gotta go right back to ESPN to finish
out this free agent job. Yeah, come on, man, you
already know what it is. But we got a special
guest today, man, someone who has really man made a living.
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I don't even know how to put this. This man
who just made a living off off being him and
it has been able to capitalize in several different fields
um a space season now is boxing? Welcome to the show, Jake, Paul, Jake,
what's up with you? Man? What up? Boys? How are we? Man? Yeah?
Just we're cool and chill, have a good living life.
Man's kind of out in the days to the fight,
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as you should. So we we spoke off camera. So
you're in Puerto Rico, Uh, in training camp right now?
Long have you been out there? I've been down here
for a couple of months now. Just focus, man that
there's no distractions here. Uh. And it's hot, like the
training down here will really get you ready. H And
you know that's what's needed, going through the tough moments
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down here in the extreme heat. And you know how
in one focus, one point of attention have you taken
training this series in your previous fights for this kind
of your new mold into hopefully heading into like real, real,
real time boxing. Now, all my camps have been very
very serious training and I've gone a hundred and ten
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percent every single time. You know, I do know that
this is this is my toughest opponent. But even in
my last couple of fights, you know, we were training
like I was going to be fighting the best fighters
in the world in that ring. Um, so you know,
I like to push myself as hard as I possibly
can and all aspects of my life. So well, first
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and foremost, congratulations on signing your Showtime Boxing deal. Man. Uh,
you know to kind of the journey you've been on
to be able to, you know, step into this business
and sign a real lucrative deal and thats hats off
to you and everything you've been doing in this space.
I appreciate it. Man. Yeah, it's uh, it's amazing to
be with with Showtime. You know that they're the best
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in the business and they get what I'm trying to do,
so uh, you know, being in partner in partnership with
them is massive, and yeah, I'm excited to do this
first show in Cleveland, Ohio with them, And you know,
I'm taking boxing very serious and I hope everyone can
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see that. And and going with Showtime is as about
as as serious as it gets. Yeah, Showtime is the best, man,
So welcome to the family. So, as we know, you
gotta highly anticipated fight with Tyrone Woodley, one time UFC champion,
that will take place August twenty nine at our Rocket
Morrigan Field House in your hometown of ohaw, are you
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know home home state of Cleveland, Ohio? What what is
it like being able to go back home and put
on a show for possibly kids that have never seen
a real life boxing match. It's so cool, man, Like,
I still it's still surreal to me. I don't even
know if it's really fully set in what I'm doing yet,
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but you know, going to that same arena as a
kid and watching Lebron play and now being able to
go back and be the center of attention and put
on maybe if you know what some for some kids
it will probably be their first fight that they're ever
going to. Uh, it's just a dream come true. And
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maybe you know, one kid out there in the crowd
will twenty years from now sell out that that same Marina.
You know. That's my goal is to inspire the kids
from my hometown with this fight and show them that
they can do anything that they set their mind too.
And my friends and family are going to be their
root of me on And you know, I'm gonna need
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it for this fight. I'm gonna need all the motivation
I can get because this is a serious guy. Tyrn
is not playing around, and he has knockout power and
so you know, I'm excited all the way around. Well
that's dope. I mean, you say it's kind of a
real and and kind of like a dream. But how
did we get here? How do we get from a
YouTube sensation to someone who is in this boxing space
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now and and and taking it as serious as you
have you know, roll. It might sound cheesy, but the
reason I got here just rolling with the punches, you know.
I Uh, I've done that my whole entire career. I
started off on Vine and then you know, Vine vanished
and and you know the app was deleted. So I
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had to you know, reinvent myself, move over to Facebook, Instagram,
started doing YouTube. Then I got on Disney Channel. Um,
you know, I'm a CEO, entrepreneur, businessman. Uh. You know,
so I've always just gone and adapted and been like
a chameleon in this space. And when I finally found boxing,
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I was like, oh, this is truly something that I
love and that I'm passionate about. And it takes me
back through my roots of being a kid, uh and
wanting to go to the NFL playing sports all the time.
That was really all there was to do in Ohio. Um,
and so it was really a perfect calling, and um
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I found my lane and Man, once I got my
first knockout in my first pro fight, I was just
addicted to the feeling of it. I caught the boxing
bug and the rest is really history. Man. I pretty
much just talk shit and have a lot of loud mouth.
And you know, I'm arrogant at times and controversial and
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polarizing at times. But I think that just adds to,
you know, the whole narrative here some people wanting to
see me get knocked out. Um, and so this has
just been a wild roller coaster and I didn't even
expect it to get this big this fast. Now they
ain't number one with believe it in yourself. Bro, are
you seeing to Woolley face to face a couple of times?
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What do you see in him? And what are you
taking this fight so series? Like you sound like it's
different than you have to fight. What did you see
in him when you've seen them face to face? You know,
just experience, Like I think with my other opponents, I
was able to get in their head, break them down
mentally before we even got into the ring. But Tyrant's
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done done this. Dozens and dozens of times more times
than me. So he's seen it all, been there multiple times,
has been on the big stage, done the big press conferences,
and so I see how experienced he is. And he's
been fighting for way longer than me. He was winning
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UFC championships when I was, you know, doing the Disney Hi,
I'm Jake Paul. You're watching Disney channels. So I just
know that experience in this sport is one of the
most important things, if not the most important things. Um
So I'm just not messing around. Um I compare. I
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mean there's been a lot of back and forth between
Hugh and him. Uh, ship talking. I kind of compare
you for your genre, Like you've mastered the ship talking game.
Like I compare you to fifty cent when it comes
to you, like doing the antics. You need to keep
the crowd going, to keep the buzz going, to keep
just the energy going. Where did you get that from?
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You know? I've always sort of been like the class clown,
you know, the one who is cracking jokes in school. Uh,
and genuinely just like to have fun. I think people
take life too seriously. I like to make fun of myself.
My friends make fun of me. I make fun of them. Uh.
And so that just really has carried over into the
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fight game and trolling and using the internet making memes. Uh.
And that that's really where it stems from. And genuinely,
I just like enjoy it. Sometimes I'll be post seen
stories or tweets and I'm just sitting there laughing because
I think it's hilarious, and like, I don't really even
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care if anyone else thinks's hilarious. I'm really just doing
it because I think it's funny. When you think about
your journey, and we'll get into your your your upbringing
a little bit. When you think about where your journey,
where you started and you said the vines and the
Facebook's I G. S. Disney to where you're at now
and the fucking boatloads of money you're making, did you like,
what what do you think about just that your whole journey,
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Like you're kind of a blueprint for this next generation,
like going out really going out there and getting your
own based off this social media life. Did you ever
think it would be this big? I really didn't. Um,
you know, It's it's crazy how far I've come from
where I've started. And I try to think about that
all the time I reflect and I'm just like, wow,
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this is this is crazy. The the younger version of
you would be so so proud and yeah, like you said,
I'm just figuring it out as I go, because I
think this new generation of kids, this new generation of
celebrities that have sort of been coined influencers, there's really
no blueprint. No one's you know, paved the way. But
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I think what this new generation is showing is, you know,
you can blend in in many different areas. You can
be a chameleon chameleon, you can you know, go and
make music, you can go do YouTube videos, you can
do TikTok's, you can fight if you want to. I
think entertainment now has evolved into one category and people.
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I think moving forward, we'll see that that's how that's
how you sort of rise to the top. Is doing
it all? I guess that. And and if you look
at the people who are the biggest in the world,
it's like the Rock right, like he came from fighting
in w w E and playing sports to then acting
to now using Instagram content. Uh so, you know, just
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playing the game differently is how you win in today's world.
Tell us a little bit about your your upbringing. Um,
obviously we all know Logan is or any other family
members and what would your childhood like. Um, it's just us, uh,
you know, just Logan and I and um, you know,
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I grew up in a blue collar family. My parents
got divorced at a young age, and um, I was
always like hopping back and forth from from each house
and my mom. At my mom's house, we got to
like have fun and you know, hang out with our
friends and get into a little bit of trouble. And
then I would go to my dad's house and it
was like work work, work, work, work, Um. You know,
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we would landscape and clean out gutters, snow blow houses, uh,
you know, clean out hoarders houses. Just my dad was
doing anything he could find a job, and um, and
we we would always help him out and just played sports.
Rode my bike around around the town. And this was
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before you know cell phones and uh and TikTok and
stuff where you could still go. You had to go
knock on the on your neighbor's door to see if
you wanted to play. And we were dig tong ditch um.
But you know, small town and um, you know I
never really like school or anything like that. I just
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knew there was something out there more for me, and
I wanted to be a business person or something along
those lines. But there was really no no, no one
from my town that I could like look up to,
you know, figure it all out. Um. But that's really it.
You have definitely made your path. And it sounds like
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your your dad was a really hard work or two.
What has it been like for you and your brother
to be able to now you've made it? You know,
you're at You're at the top of the top, You're
at the top of the food chain, you're making great money.
What does it like to be able to take care
of your parents? Um, you know, after all the sacrifice
they made for you guys as children. Honestly, it's it's uh,
it's amazing, you know. And and that's what I wanted
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to work for and towards, is to just provide a
better situation for my family, um, for my dad, for
my mom, and and to to not have money be
an issue. And I think, you know, we grew up
working so hard, um for you know, ten fifteen dollars
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an hour, and now you know the opportunities we have,
we still just want to work even harder because we
worked this hard when when all that money wasn't there.
And so you know, now I can set up I'm
in a position to set up my kids, you know,
or my kids kids one day to just everyone can
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can be okay, and just providing that different lifestyle. So
it's a it's a blessing. And um, you know, at first,
when you start to make money as a twenty year
old or whatever, you you know, you want to buy
the watches and get the cars and like flex and everyone.
And then you sort of get past that phase and
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you're like, okay, like I'm doing this for a different reason. Now, yeah,
that's what's up. You've definitely created joan path and being
able to create generational wealth within that. So after that
initial let me flex, then it's like, Okay, how do
I plan for my life? And it's dope that at
your age, you're you're understanding that already. You mentioned obviously
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training camp in Puerto Rico with how to ship out there,
it has you locked in. Um, who are some of
your training and sparring partners that that that that you've
been messing around with out there? Any big notable names? Um, yes,
some some really good guys. Uh So j Leen Love
who um has has always been a tot boxing prospect. UM.
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And then one of my sparring partners, Anthony Taylor, who's
from Bellator. Uh. You know, he fights a lot like
Tyrant and he actually now just got added to the
undercard UM fighting Tommy Fury, which is a sick, sick announcement.
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I'm stoked for that, um and you know, stoke for
Tommy to come over to the to the U S.
And it's gonna it's gonna be a tough fight. You know,
it's not gonna be easy. Anthony's a really good sparring partner.
He's you know, he's awkward. He he throws punches differently
like like an m M a fighter. UM. And then
I've been sparring with Derek Finley out here as well,
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and then some of some of the top guys uh
in in Puerto Rico. Uh So we're having, you know,
the best camp I've ever had and only getting better
and better every single day. You say, all your camps,
you train this hard for every fight, you know, regardless
of you for it. Little weekend has been whether you'reknocked
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him out. But uh, you say you change, you train
all these fights the same. Is there any difference fight
when you you know, because it sounds like you're taking
Willie more serious, But are you doing anything like different
for this fight? You know, we're just all getting better
as a team, uh, and understanding each other, from the
head coaches to the strengthen conditioning coaches to you know,
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my recovery my recovery coach who helps me on the
healing side of things. We're all just getting better and
understanding how we operate. So this camps is a lot
more smooth, and this is really like my job now.
You know, the first couple of the first couple of
times I was doing this, it was like, oh, sick,
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we gotta fight, you know, let's get ready and we
would just make it happen. But it's been back to
back to back training camps NonStop, so it sort of
just feels very natural. And I don't even remember what
my life was like before all these boxing training camps.
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Any any boxes you love, any boxes you love watching
growing up? You know Oscar de la Joya, you know,
I've I've been a huge fan of um and then
the Klitschko brothers were just always super, super exciting. I
like their style, like how hard they fight. Um, So
we study a lot of their film and I try
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to try to fight like them. I saw it. I'm
pretty sure it was you. You mentioned something about obviously
your goal in here is to help fighters get paid more, um,
whether it be FC or boxing, And I think that
kind of attention you bring to the sport is only
going to help us speak to that because, like I said,
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I think people want to pin you as a bad
guy and this, this and that. But when I heard
you say that, that was some real ship because particularly
you have ce these guys get funcked out of money
left and right. The lower end boxers don't really get
you know, most of these guys have to have second jobs.
So let me know your thought process when you spoke
to that, and hopefully you know you helping fighters get
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paid more. Yeah, so I think it comes from me
seeing how hard this sport is. Right. I played football,
I wrestled, I you know, have been an actor, been
a CEO of founding you know, multimillion dollar companies, and
there's nothing harder than boxing and fighting just in general.
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And I see how much sacrifice you have to make
and you're literally in there, you know, taking shots to
the head. And I think fighters are just generally underpaid,
and I think that's for a lot of reasons. But
I just want to help fix that problem, and I
think we attack that multiple ways. I think, first and foremost,
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we need the sports to become more popular and more fans,
more audience, which will naturally just put more revenue across
the board. And I think also just voicing it because
a lot of these young fighters get get sucked in
by promoters to long fight contracts and then they become
a star, and then their promoters just taking all their money,
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or in the case of the UFC, it's really a
monopoly where Dana White controls these these guys careers and
can make whatever fights happen, pay whoever he wants, whatever
they want, or pay them nothing um and and so
it just it just very very unfair. And what's crazy
about it is, you know, the UFC only the fighters
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only get paid ten percent of the total amount of
the money that's earned, whereas in the NBA it's fifty,
the NFL it's And meanwhile you have Dana White, you know,
going on Twitter talking about how he has spent seven
million dollars on a blackjack hand and lost it or whatever. Meanwhile,
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his fighters are starting to go go fund b pages.
And not only that, it's like, if you're in the
NBA and NFL, you know you have team facilities, you
have team coaches, you know, you get help on the
recovery side of things, you have the you know, you
get flown places. Uh, you know all of that is covered.
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As a fighter, you have to cover all your own expenses.
And I know how crazy it is. From the meals
to the gym's, to the coaches, to your strength and conditioning,
to your recovery team. It's expensive to be a fighter.
And so that's another thing that people don't even take
into account really. Um So I'm just like, damn, we
need to change this. And you know, I'm not I'm
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not gonna be able to do it by myself. But
I think just continuing to talk about it and getting
other fighters on board to talk about it is is
how we do this. It might take five years, ten years,
but let's do it, right. I think it's important to
spark their conversation. Um, talk to us about your new
uh your initiative boxing bullies. Yeah. Yeah, So super excited. Uh,
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you know, I just launched my foundation, which has been
a dream of mine since I was a kid, Like,
always volunteering, always helping out wherever I could, always giving back.
That's what my parents taught me since since a young age,
and I dreamt of one day being able to do
that on a on a massive level. And finally, after
you know, a lot of hard work and building out
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a team, UM, we launch Boxing Bullies. And the goal
of is is pretty simple. It's, um, you know, let's
get boxing gloves and the sport of boxing in two
and out to as many kids as possible in the world.
Because boxing, you know, gave me purpose, It gave me
something to fight for, and it kept me out of
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a lot of trouble, honestly, and I want to be
able to share that with kids as well as teaching
them how being a bully is not cool, because I
I used to be a bully and then I changed.
I realized it wasn't cool. And then going through my career,
I've been like attacked on the Internet and you know,
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those types of remarks, comments, all of that stuff lasts
with you forever. And so I think cyber bullying and
bullying is just a massive problem in this generation, and
I just wanted to voice up, raise awareness for it
and you know, show kids that's not cool, and that's
really our our initiative. And um, the first event went
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went super well, and it just inspired me to you know,
keep on going, keep on killing it with this foundation,
and I want boxing bullies to be massive one day
and really really make a change. Um. So it's something
I'm very passionate about. Yeah, because hal, because half the
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people that talk trash wouldn't say it and you face anyway,
So I appreciate you for starting that as well. Um,
the problem Child? How did you get that nickname? Yeah?
So you know, just growing up, I I was sort
of the problem child. My brother was like the goody
two shoe and never really got in any any trouble,
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and you know I was sort of, um, you know,
using my all this energy that I had for the
for the wrong reasons, getting in trouble, not paying attention
in class, and you know at first I was you know,
people wanted to hate on me for that, and like
my teachers would get me in trouble, and you know
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other kids in school would hate on me for for that.
And once I finally embraced who I was and didn't
really care about what other people thought, I felt very
free and I was like, this is who I am,
Like I'm I'm sorry, like I'm different, and I'm the
problem child. And that's that's really where where it all started.
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And then growing up I sort of tried to leave
that that part of me behind. But when the boxing
gloves come on, and you know, the lights are on
and the press people are watching and the press conferences,
that side of me is what is what comes out
that ship talking like a little arrogant, little crazy um
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because you have to be to get in that ring
and put your life on the line. And so the
problem child is really who I am when when the
gloves are on and and we're talking about boxing, and
I'm just I'm just a problem for for people in
the in the ring, and I I carry that energy
into sparring in every single day against my sparing partners,
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like I'm here to beat your ass, like I'm not,
I'm not playing her. Huh m hm. The tattoo bet
you did a Twitter pool and asked your fans where
t would if if you beat him, should put the tattoo,
and they said his face that we speaking obviously you
you know your mindset is you're gonna win. But if
you happen not to, where would you put the tattoo
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on your body? Not even a possibility that I'm not
even thinking about that ship. It's like asking me like, yo,
like after you walk on water, like what are you
gonna do next? Just not having it. I can't walk
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on water. I can't lose that answers that question. Do
you do you remember your first tattoo? Yeah? I actually, um,
it's all right here you can see it, but it
says adventure. I got it there because as my parents
always told me not to get tattoos, and so my
first one I got because you can't see it there. Yeah,
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they won't ever see it here. Uh but yeah, venture
it's like it means a daring or risky undertaking or journey,
which I feel like it's been my whole life. So
it's actually one of my favorite tattoos. Take me back
to who you were when you knocked our brother Nate
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Robinson out, to the fighter you are we're talking to
right now. Yeah, you know against Nate I was I
was just still very good I just wasn't fully aware
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slash fully a legitimate prow. I don't think that at
that time. You know, that was only my second pro fight,
and I still had a lot to learn, uh and
a lot to experience, you know, going through the fight
camp leading up to the fight and then being under
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under the lights on a massive stage. I've only done
that a couple of times. And so that you know
that fight and and really every fight you win, it
just takes you to another level of understanding of your
ability of being calm, not getting nervous, and turning more
into just like a seasoned fighter. And I've just gotten Yeah,
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I've just gotten so much better in between these camps.
And uh, you know, the fighter I am now would
would beat that that fighters ass pretty pretty easily, honestly.
M alright, man, we're winding down to the end, quick hitters.
If if you can, if you could go back to
one sporting event and watch a lie, what would it be? Man?
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I think either I think the first thing that comes
to mind are like the first Super Bowl or or
Mike Tyson versus Vander Holyfield. Oh that's a big one.
I wish I could have been there at that one. Too,
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have been soundtrack leading up to your big fight? What
are three songs that have to be listening to when
you get in fight mode? Uh? Definitely for this fight.
First and foremost is Until I Die by by mg K,
just because it's like repping repping Cleveland. Uh. So we've
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been we've been bumping that one, um, and then we've
been bumping to Two Chains by by g Herbo. Uh.
That one's turn uh. And then you know, I got
some I got some drake, uh some unreleased drake. Okay,
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you got you've got some v I P drake Huh yeah,
that's dope. Okay. Uh. Just remember when you're asking this question,
you gotta be able to help us with your answer.
Who would you like to see on all the smoke? Man?
I mean you might as well. You might as well
get my brother on for his next fight. That's easy, easy, easy,
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all right there, family plug. That's that's how it's supposed
to go. Yeah, stay lawyal lawyal to you, bro. I
like that ship. That's how I rocked. Man. I'm low
too low to me everybody else. All right, I'm taking
you to We're fast forwarding to August twenty nine. Your hometown.
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Motherfucking stadium is rocking, lights are on bill rings. What
can we expect from you that night? Who? Just an
aura of greatness and an electric, fast, sharp, hungry motivated
young man that will not be stopped. And you will
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see my bones go through Tyrone's head and he will
be out on the canvas. We'll be in the building.
We'll definitely be in the building. They're gonna be there now,
We're gonna be there. Hey, Hey, we showed time families,
so we're hey, we're front row at all the fights.
It ain't no different. We're gonna be there. Let's go.
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I'm gonna have y'all pull up to the after party too,
because you know that's part of the whole night. Pretend
your solo cameras on Tyrone. What would you say to him,
just like like right now, yeah, right now, looking to
your phone and whatever the ship you want to say?
Eight to him? Man, you know how I'm coming, bro.
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I'm telling you, I'm telling you straight up, stop buying
your US Bentley, Stop stop buying your your Nike little shoes,
your your Air Jordan's that are way too expensive for
you to afford. And take this last last paycheck of
yours and ride into the sunset. Buy some Ethereum, buy
some so Lana, buy some bitcoin, invest your money, and
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uh stop being stupid with it. This is your this
is your last to rob Buddy, tough Tough Top. We're
gonna get t on two, so we don't have a
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