Jayson Tatum | Ep 35 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | #StayHome with SHOWTIME Basketball

All The Smoke returns with Celtics star Jayson Tatum joining Matt and Stephen for episode 35. The boys talk with Tatum about his time at Duke, his playoff runs with the Celtics and his poster dunk on Lebron. He also tells some of his favorite stories abut Kobe and MJ and opens up about growing up in St. Louis

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
From my high school team. We have five guys make
the NBA. We had the County Rocket gets some meta
of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon
whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do
to stop the competitive and that's just in the water.

(00:30):
Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a
real special guys. What's up with your Brodie with the
virtual handshake, I'm gonna tell you something that I never
told nobody. I want to out the smoke. Welcome back
to another Quarantine edition of All the Smoke with my
brother Stack five. What's up with you, bro? Quarantine on

(00:50):
the scene. What's going on? Bro? Quarantine? And mean staying
off that green you did? Yeah, I'm I'm full of
that constantly. You get a chance to watch uh Hardwood
Classics had our game four on last night against Dallas
Oh seven, Hey, and what a co Wincid is and
crunch time. I backed little Jason Terry down, spin off

(01:13):
of him and they collapsed on me and I kick
it to the right guests. Who's there? My brother page Row.
I got a lot of homes off that. I got
a lot of Hey, I got a lot of holes
off that shot. I might have got the twins based
off that shot. Yeah, that shot were popping. Man was crazy. Man.
We got a special guest man, one of the best

(01:33):
young talents in the game. Uh, one of my favorite players.
You had been straight up been one of my favorite
players since he came in the league. Boston Celtics very
own Jason Tatum. Welcome to the show, bro Bro St. Louis.
What's up? And I appreciate you. I haven't we Uh
we got a chance to interview Bradley Beale earlier today too,
so we know he had on the St. Louis had

(01:56):
to come on. Many boys hold it down. That's one
thing about us. And you know somebody from St. Louis,
they're gonna let you know about it. Shout out the
mouse straight up. So how are you, man, How how
are you in the family holding up right now? With
the you know, with the world coming to a halt.
I'm doing good. Um, you know, every day seemed about

(02:19):
the same. Um. You know, I got my mom my
son up here, so I'm getting good and I'm just
enjoying quality time. So I'm trying. Are you still able
to work out at all? Yeah? I got it like
a little gym, in the in the in the garage. Uh,
you know, I make it do do what they do.
But um, I just got a hoop in the in

(02:41):
the driveway. Uh, get some shots because I ain't touched
the ball since since our last game and I think
it was Indiana. What was that scared like knowing that
one of your being a father first to form us,
but knowing that one of your teammates got sick. Was
there was there a panic or you knew you were
in the near him and talk talk to me what
your thought wasn't in the locker room? Stop when Marcus

(03:02):
Smart came down with the Yeah, so we was when
the season got suspended. We was in Milwaukee, uh, because
we're about were supposed to play him the next day
and the season got suspended. So the next day we
flew home and I think that was like a Thursday.
And then that Saturday we all got tested because we
just played the Jazz about like a week ago. So, um,

(03:24):
all the test didn't come in at the same time.
They were like they got mixed in with I guess
you know, other people's tests. So it took like a week,
week and a half of our test to come back uh,
and Smart was kind of one of the first guys
to get his results back in and we all knew.
So when when he found out, I still didn't know yet,
So I was still I was nervous, but at the

(03:45):
same time, like I wasn't around my mom or my son,
Like I just stayed at my house because they told
us to, you know, stay inside for about two weeks.
But uh, you know, Smart said he was doing fine,
and um, you know, luckily nobody else tested positive, so
we was a right, Yeah, that's a scary time, especially
being a father, you know, I mean I couldn't imagine
having to Chris Paul told us a story where similar

(04:06):
he was getting tested, he came home to l A
and he hadn't got his results yet, so he had
to sit in his car and his driveway until his
kids went to sleep, and then when the kids went
to sleep, he snuck and stayed in the isolated bedroom
until the end. He happened to get his results that
next morning. You know, So that ship is scary, especially
you know when when when you could possibly bringing home
to the fam. M hmm. Recently you teamed up, you know,

(04:26):
was a fellow of St. Louisan Bradley Beal uh and
raised almost three hundred thousand dollars for uh St. Louis
Area Food Bank. Um, you guys have teamed up and
and and did pizzas recently. Tell us where that charitable
stuff comes back came from, because we we often don't
get a chance to highlight that. And not that you
do it to get highlighted, but I think it's great

(04:47):
when guys like yourself are really out there in the
community trying to help people. Yeah, so we I did
it with through my foundation, um, the Jayson Tatum Foundation.
I was sitting here with my mom. We was thinking
of a way that we could, you know, help and
get back to where I'm from. And you know, for me,
that's all I'm always thinking about what can I do,
you know, for the people back home in St. Louis,
because you know, for those that don't know St. Louis Is,

(05:09):
it's not like any other you know, one of those
big cities. Um, you know, people a lot of people
from St. Louis. We don't come from much. You know,
we don't have a lot and you know, growing up,
you know, we all kind of grew up in the
same area. So you know, Brad is another person that
you know really helps and give us back to St. Louis.
And he's like my big brother. So when I called him,
you know, with the idea, you know, how we can
help raise money and donate money back home to help

(05:31):
those in need during this time that that's not going
to work and don't know where the next meal coming from. Um,
you know, he was on board. And you know for St. Louis,
the raised three hundred thousand dollars in two weeks. Like
that was that was incredible, you know because you know,
like you said, St. Louis Is, you know, a small city.
You know, there's a lot of crime and poverty. So
for them to come together and raise that type of

(05:52):
money and that's the donated was a big deal. It's
a beautiful thing. Hall of Fame class KG Kobe Tim
duncan tell me some of your memberies and what's your
thoughts of that elite group man? Well, for me, you
know obviously, you know, especially watching this Jordan documentary and
and hearing people like around you guys age and older,

(06:14):
like how my dad talked about Jordan's really made me
realize like that was Kobe for me, Like Kobe was
was my Jordan's the reason. He was the reason I
started playing basketball. Like you know, I had all the jerseys,
all the shoes. I want to be just like them.
So you know, Kobe was Jordan's for me, um and
and Kevin Garnett was Kevin Garnett was was my dad

(06:36):
favorite player. So I remember anytime anytime the Celtics played
the Sons and him and the mart started, Marrow matched up,
like my pops will call me, like yo, turn on TV.
The two animals playing against each other. Jens is man
and the March started. Mark was was againster too. You
got to spend time with Cobe and and talk to

(06:59):
him and and help work on your game. Talk to
us a little bit about that, because I think that
is that's amazing. Yeah, it was. I met Kobe a
couple of times growing up. Um my dad best friend
Larry Hugh. So when Larry played on Cleveland one time
for my birthday, like fourth grade, I went to when
they played the Lakers. I took a picture with Code.

(07:20):
Then I met him at the sps UM when I
was in college, and then after my rookie year, during
my rookie year in the playoffs, has when he started
doing a detail thing and I remember he did one
on me in the playoffs and he and he texts me.
He texts me, he was like, you know, keep doing
your thing. I'm watching, you know. After the summer, after
the season, you know, hit me up anytime you in

(07:41):
l A. We get to work together. I was like,
I like dropped my phone. I couldn't believe it. So
I remember, I remember the first day, the first day
that summer I got to l A. As soon as
I landed, I texted. I was like, yo, I'm in
l A for a couple of weeks. You know, I
know you're probably busy, but if you got any time,

(08:03):
I let it in the gym. I remember he ain't
text me back for like four days, Like it was
in four days. Let him texting me. And as soon
as he texts, I texted like twenty seconds back, like
I responded fastest ship. And then uh, you know, we
we met like twice before we actually worked out. Like
I went to us his office and he showed me
around when he was writing books and stuff like that,

(08:23):
and then uh, and then we got to work out.
So it was like that was a dream come true
for me. Tell us a little bit about what those
workouts were liking and what you took away, because like
we all know, I mean, his attention to detail is
second and none. Uh my kids were lucky enough to
work out with him for their little tenth birthday surprise,
but he was putting them through some real NBA footwork.
Pivot attention to detail. How precise was he and what

(08:44):
did you take away from those workouts with him? Yeah,
he did a lot of at tension to detail. Um,
it was it was it wasn't really anything that I,
you know, I couldn't do. It was you know, a
bunch of moves that I that he's seen me do
and that he did, and it was all like little
little things to think about the uh you know that's

(09:05):
what That's what I really took like took from It
was like the little things like what that he would
think about that I really never heard anybody else like
how they approached the game. But maybe it's like some
of the greats there, but you know, for him to
to to give me some of that knowledge right then
and there, and and just the little things and on
on the jab step and you know, creating separation and

(09:25):
getting this little bit of space and it was like
I was, I was just like a kid in the
candy start. I was like, I kept like talking to
myself like, you know, I'm working out with Kobe, Like
I couldn't believe it at the time. That's dope. And
two thousand nineteen you signed with Jordan's. Jack used to
be a Jordan Brand They cut his boxes off though.

(09:46):
Tell me how that how that situation came about it,
how excited you wore for that opportunity? No, I was.
I found we started, my agents started working on it,
uh like in a offs my second year, so last year,
and then, um, you know, when it finally came about,
when we finally you know, negotiated and figured everything, I

(10:08):
was on board. I was excited, and um you know,
we took a trip. The jordan Brand family took a
trip to to Monte Carlo and Paris this summer and
that was kind of like my introduction to Jordan Brand,
to the world and meeting all the guys. And the
first time I really like sat down and talked to
m j Uh. I got a funny story. I was,

(10:29):
I was in I was in Paris and I met
I met mja earlier this morning to the introduction, and
like I did a bunch of media and then that
night we had a dinner. So it was like Meller
was there, Blake was there, Russ, Spike Lee, like it
was everybody was there. So I remember, I'm still nervous, right,
So I walked in MJ sitting down his white next
to him and Spike next earth. So I walked in

(10:53):
and I was, I'm gonna stay what's up to him?
Far I sit down? So I'm like I talked to
him earlier, like we had like a whole conversation, like
I kind of know him. But then I'll walk over
to him and like my hand starts sweating, and I
was like, what's uping Mike? When I went to go
shake his hand, I knocked over his knocked over his
wine glass on the table when it broke. Uh, I

(11:21):
was like, let me get a nack and let me
let me help you out. He was like, he's like, young,
fella's cool. It's good right. I turned throughout like, yo,
I'm tripping the fun that I just speaking to Mike.
What are your thoughts being able to see? Because you
were young, very young? Uh, you know when Mike was
making his run. Uh, Me and Jack have loved reminiscent

(11:43):
and kind of scene because Mike was the one superstar
for us that we never really got to see the
other side that we saw m J the hooper and
then we see the businessman, but we didn't really get
to see the personal side of him. What have you
What have you been able to take away from seeing
the Last Dance? It's really it's been. It's been incredible.
Um because I was born in so I never I
never saw MJ play live. Really maybe it's last year

(12:05):
in like oh three, when I was like four or five.
I don't really remember much, but you know, growing up,
my dad like it was all m J highlights. He's like,
I know you love Kobe, but Kobe got got all
this from Mike. I used to watch show Me Mike
highlights all the time, so I understood. I always understood, like, no, Mike,
Mike the greatest, like he'd got for a reason. But

(12:25):
just like actually, you know, watching it in real time
now and and this documentary has been Uh, I loved
this so far. I can't wait till next Sunday. Yeah,
straight up, to take us back to your early days,
what was it like growing up being raised by a
single mom. Uh, it was it was tough. Um. You know,

(12:46):
I grew up with a single mom. You know, my
dad was around, but I lived with my mom. Uh
you know, they had me. I think they were seniors
in high school or right like right after they graduated
high school, so you know, they was young and you know,
growing up in St. Louis with you know, not having
much and um just kind of being in that environment. Um.

(13:06):
You know, you, like most people, you don't really know
that you you you pour you don't have it until
you grow up or until get around people. Yeah, until
you do things like that. So, uh, you know, I
love St. Louis. St. Louis Is is the biggest, one
of the biggest reasons you know why I am who
I am today and always, you know, go home as

(13:27):
much as possible and and show love whenever I can. Uh,
you know, just because it it got me to where
I am. And you know, we all we all got
stories and situations of you know a lot of guys
that came from the same place as us, but you
know a couple of mistakes of a way that they
didn't you know, make it. And you know, I tell
people all the time people ask me like, you know why,

(13:48):
you know, why are you so confident? Or you know,
what was your biggest fear? You know, growing up? And
I always want to, you know, play basketball and being NBA,
and I never felt like I wasn't good enough or
I didn't have the talent, you know. My I tell
people my biggest fear all the time was just going
up in St. Louis. Just being at the wrong place
in the wrong time. I was. That was for me
going up. You know, it's just always all the time. Bro. Yeah,

(14:13):
it's really like being at the wrong place at the
wrong time. It's scary, especially you know, back in St. Louis.
So I think God every day. You know, I was
able to live up my dream. It sounds like your
mom was a superstar. You know. I lost my mom
and that's how Jack and I became brothers. But you know,
your mom was taking college classes and taking you with her,
was able to earn her bachelor and law degree, all

(14:34):
while working two jobs and never missing the game or
practice for you. So, I mean, definitely shout out to
moms for all the sacrifice when you're at today, man,
for sure, Yeah, my mom she super mom. She my mama.
She a gangster for real, Like I tell that, imam.

(14:56):
When did you fall in love with the game? What
age man is like? When I was probably like two
or three, as long as I can remember, like my
dad played the St. Louis University played overseas. You know,
from my earliest memories, I had always had a ball
in my hand at ball in the crib and then
as soon as I could start watching and remember like

(15:17):
Kobe was he was it for me? Like I was like,
and I want to be I want to be Kobe.
And my mom was like, no, you you want to
be a player, like you want to be an NBA
like Kobe. I'm like no, Like I want to be Kobe.
I want to with a frow, I wont number eight.
That was like it was. I loved like that he
was he was Jordans for me, and he was like

(15:38):
the reason I started playing basketball. What was it like
being a high school basketball star? Like I played in
the McDonald's All American Game, I went to Old Kill
You know, I think having that exposure definitely gave me
a lot of confidence in myself. But what what was
it like to you? What what was being a high
school star, like for you, I think being a high
school star, especially growing up with with social media. Um,

(15:59):
I feel like it was differ from kind of when
y'all girl because we had social media, camera phones was out,
So I wasn't like a normal high school kid. Um,
you know, I grew up where I grew up. I
went to a different high school. I went to my
mom for me in a private school, uh college, Shamana
College Prep. So it was an all boy Catholic school,

(16:19):
and um, you know the kind of like really have
me focused? And it was all boys school, so you know,
wouldn't girls weren't a distraction and you know I was
focusing on my books. Yeah. I mean I had a
son when I was nineteen, So I'm glad. I'm boy
boy had a couple of them before that. Huh yeah

(16:41):
yeah yeah, Now trust me too. He might if I
went to a public school, he might have been like five,
he might do or or he might have had he
might have had a brother or sister with him. Already,
you're you're going into going into your senior in high school.

(17:04):
You verbally commit to Duke over North Carolina over Kentucky,
and and your mom and dad's alma mater St. Louis.
What was that process like? In White Duke, it was
tough because I had built a relationship with Roy Williams. Um,
I built a relationship with Jim Cruz who was at
SLEW and Caliperia Kentucky. But only I only took one

(17:25):
official visit. I took the official visit of my junior
year UH two Duke, and UM, I wanted. I wanted
to commit on the spot. UM, I love I love
Coach K to death. UM, you know, just being in
that environment and and talking to all the players and
the amount of the guys that graduated that that come
back to games and practices and you know, just the

(17:46):
bond that they all had. I really wanted that. And um,
you know, growing up, I didn't really think that like
guys from St. Louis like we'll go to Duke. I
didn't think. I didn't think that was like a thing.
And then when I started getting recruited by like, uh
it was cool, and just talking to Coach K and
and being in Cameron and um enjoying the game there.

(18:09):
I wanted to commit on the spot. And my dad
was like hold on, Like we ain't been to other
schools yet relaxed and I was like, no, I need
to go to another school, like I want to know.
And that in my junior year, they won the national
championship and like two or three days later after they won,
Coach k Um, they flew to my house, UM Coach
Capood and John Shire and when I had an in

(18:30):
home visit. Now I remember, it was like in April
and I told him. I was like, Coach, I'm I'm
coming to Duke and uh, you know, I didn't commit
till later that summer like nationally, but I told him
in April that I was I was coming to do
So once you're there, what's your experience? Like? Tell me
what that college experience is like? Because you weren't there
very long, But what was it like when you were there? No, man,

(18:50):
I do that was like the most fun I ever
had in my life. Um, just being a college kid,
first time away from home, UM kind of you know,
got more responsive abilities, becoming like a young man, UM,
living on your own. That was that was new to
me and you know, I enjoyed it. I had fun. Um.
I still I'm close with a lot of the guys

(19:10):
on the on the team that I was. I was
there for a year. UM, I still talked to the
coaches all the time. I go back, uh in the
summertime when I can. And after the season after we lost, UM,
you know, I talked to coach K and obviously I
wanted to go to the league, but it was a
part of me that wanted to come back to Duke
for another year. Like I had that much fun just

(19:33):
being a college basketball player and and and enjoyed it.
But Coach K was like, no, yeah, you gotta you
gotta go. It's the one to get out out. You
gotta get up out of here. Yeah, that makes sense.
What was it like planning that UNC robbery with Duke
and that Duke and UNC robberie. What was that like?
Oh man, it's it's it's way better than than what

(19:54):
you could imagine. Um. At Duke, they kind of like
they got this thing called the the K Bill. Um,
it's it's in front of our gym and and students
literally like for forty forty five days before the game,
they set up tents and like you gotta like you
have a tent outside the arena to get in the game.

(20:16):
So they sleep outside for like forty forty five days,
forty five nights or something like that just to be
able to get in the student section at the Duke game.
M hm, that's insane. That's sane. Hey. You keep in
mind it's cold. It's cold as funk out there. Too cold.

(20:38):
They'd be outside. It's like it's like a hundred tents
outside and you can have up to like four or
five people in the tent. That's insane. You played the
fourth position at Duke. You played the four position to Duke.
Did that help you or put you behind heading into
the NBA? It helped me out a lot, because I
think that's kind of where I came in that, you know,

(21:01):
with the Celtics UM. You know, at first I didn't
I didn't know if it was gonna work. When I
got to do UM, you know, and they put me
at the floor. But you know, when I they looked
fast forward to when I get to the Celtics UM.
You know, my first the first game we played, you know,
it was al Horford at the one. I was at
the four, Gordon was at the three, JB was at
the two, and Kyle was at the one. So I

(21:23):
kind of been in that same position, you know since
I've been in the league, and I mean, that's kind
of where basketball is at now. You got probably one
big man and then three or four guys all around
the same MICUs and a changeable one year in college
you declared for the NBA draft. Was that it was
that an easy, easy decision. I know you said your
coaches like, now you gotta go and get this money.
But that's an easy decision for you? Or was it

(21:43):
was it highly influenced by coach? It was it was
like it was an easy decision because it's like, man,
ever since I was three, I was like I wanted
to play in the NBA. But then it was like,
once I got the opportunity, I actually thought about it
for a second, Like, man, I like part of me
want to come back to Duke and and and try
to win a national championship because I like, I really

(22:04):
enjoyed my time to Duke that much, in the relationship
I built with my teammates and like that that's real.
So but then you know, then it's like, no, I
made the best decision for me and my family. And
at the time I knew that, you know, I was
about to have a I was expecting expecting the Sun.
So that was the best decision for myself and my family.

(22:25):
With the recent change of the game basically with Jalen
Green and Isaiah Todd jumping uh straight to the D
League and then you being like me, like, I absolutely
love my time in U c l A. You said
you loved your time at Duke. If you were in
a position to do that, what what what would you do?
Knowing what you know about college? Would you take the
money and go to the G League or would you
go ahead and go to do It's tough because like,

(22:46):
now knowring would I know? Now? I think I still might.
I still might have went to do But if I like,
if you just rewind four years and I'm eighteen coming
out of high school from St. Louis and it's five
thousand dollars, like I'm I'm going right to the G
League for sure. I mean they gotta I need that.

(23:12):
But I think they got to change what I think
I feel like they need to change in college. Um No,
I think you should be able to make money off
your likeness, Like if you if you're at a school,
and like if I was at Duke and I woul
want to say, like, hey, I want to host the
autograph session on Saturday, you know, for for three hours
and a signature, Like, I feel like you should be

(23:35):
able to do that. M I completely agree. I think
I think their outdated rules are going to have more
and more people making that jump, you know what I mean.
To me, there's there's no other alternative because they're not
gonna know what we know about college and how dupe
college is. They can hear it. But then that five
thousand sounds amazing plus a trainer, plus they're giving you
money to go back to school if you really want

(23:55):
to do that, you know what I mean. So that
ship is hard to pass up. And I like the
fact that the NBA is can get into their own
hands now, like let's sweeten this pot and get these
kids right on them. But I think soon it's gonna
be you're gonna be able to jump right back to
the NBA straight out of high school. Anyway, two two
thousand seventeen, the draft comes. Uh, Danny A just playing
some mind games trades picks able to get you uh

(24:20):
in the third spot. Uh. This is where Fluke Marquet
went first, Zoe went second, You went third. I think
Donovan Mitchell went thirteen whatever. Particularly, do you remember about
Draft day in in in that rookie experience. Uh yeah,
he definitely played some mind games for sure. Um because

(24:42):
it was like five, five days before the draft, because
I remember Boston had the number one pick, and you know,
everybody it was kind of like known, like the media
was saying like Marquelle was going number one and Alonzo
was in l A. So everybody knew Alonso was going
to the Like I didn't even I didn't even work
out for the Lakers because I just knew me and
my agent was like, it's probably it's gonna be a

(25:03):
waste of time, like everybody, no lines are going to them.
But two. So at the time, Philly was three and
Phoenix Suns was four. So Philly, Phoenix, and Boston they came.
I was in l A working out, so they came
to watch me work out, and I remember, you know,
I sat down and talked to him, and after I
met with him, all I remember I was like, I
think I'm going to Philly, like they had the third pick.

(25:25):
You know, I had a good workout and I talked
to Brett Brown and everything was cool. So I thought
I was going to Philly. But then I remember I
went to Phoenix. This was a week before the draft.
I went to Phoenix just to meet with Earl Watson
and talk to the to the GM and see the facility.
I didn't work out. I just wanted to go meet
with everybody. Remember girl, Yeah, shout out Earls my god.

(25:47):
Like I went out to I went to dinner with
him the next day. I remember he picked me up.
He had a white g wagon. He drove me around
and showed me, like all the houses where the players
live at. I'm like, they just dope out there, ain't it.
Phoenix is beautiful. The girl was my college girls, my
point guard A C. L A. Yeah. I remember, I've
called my I called my family, my mom. Like, I'm like, yo,

(26:09):
I think I want to go to Phoenix. Like you.
He's like you you come up, you come to Phoenix,
you know you and the book Like he's like to
light skin killers. I'm gonna let you all walk out.
I'm like, I'm I'm sitting in the g I'm sitting
in a car like, man, this sounds good. Like yeah,
Like I think I want to come here. So I
remember I get back to my hotel. I'm about to

(26:30):
fly back home for like two days ago before I
go to New York and I'm sitting and my agent
called me. He like Danny Danny Age called and said
they're gonna trade their pick. They're gonna go to three
and they want you to come to Boston and the
next day to work out. I'm like, no, I don't
want to go to Boston. Like I'm like, I like
it out in Phoenix, Like it's cool, the weather knights,

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I get a big house, I get a pool. My
mom's gonna be all right. He's like, he's like brass
Stevens a great young coach and they got a great history.
I'm like, I'm not trying to hear that, like I
want to go to Phoenix. So then he like my
agents like just think about it. And then I'm so
we hang up. I'm like, I'm not going to this
workout like I'm cool. So then Coach Kay called me.

(27:14):
Coach Kay called me right after my my agent did.
He like, Jason, you know, the Celtics call, they want
you to come work out. You know, I think Brass
Steves is a great coach, and you know, it's a
great place to be. You'll learn a lot something like, uh,
I'm like all right, so I go. So I remember
that I flew to St. Louis that night. The next

(27:36):
day I flew to Boston for another workout in Boston.
So that was like, this is like three days before
the draft. I took the train from Boston to the
draft because I had I had a sinus infection, so
like the air pressure like made me sick. So I
took the took the train to the draft. And when

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I didn't, I didn't know where I was going, Like
I figured it made Boston or Phoenix, and uh, you
know when I finally heard my name called, I was
it was like it was it was about far the
best day of my life because it's like that's what
I've been working for for sixteen years. But it was
a part of me that didn't really want to go
to Boston because they just was the number one team
in the East. They had Isaiah Thomas out Orford Smart, JB.

(28:21):
Jay Crowder. I was like, I mean, I'm not gonna
play like I'm trying to. I'm trying to get buckets.
I mean, everything worked out. It was the best decisions.
So it worked out. You thought you thought long and hard,
about being that second LFE skin killer out there in
Scott's Dale. Huh that have been crazy him and could
you imagine him and book? Oh wait, that would have

(28:42):
been nasty. So you're rookie Phoenix. Yeah, you're rookie again.
A man, shout out my man, Earl Watson. Man, he
got he got done dirty out there. But it's it's
it's refreshing here and all the players speak about it
because players really fucked with him, just the owners of
clown and you know management is sucked up. But I'm
glad to hear that the Earl had convinced you that
you wanted to be in Phoenix. That's what's up. Uh

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your rookie debut. You play against Lebron, come out and
drop a double double. Tell me what that was like. Man,
I ain't getting no sleep the night before the game. Uh,
because it was Kyrie. It was co first game coming
back to Cleveland. You know, we got a new team,
and you know I saw this hype. So I mean
we I don't think I'm nervous, Like we're going through

(29:24):
warm ups. We went on the court. The cast still
ain't running the court. Yes, So I'm like, all right,
I'm good. I'm laying the ball up, playing cool, and
then I remember the Calves run on the floor and
then Lebron was the last person in warm up, and
when he ran on the court, he ran past me.
I said, damn, I just start getting nervous. I started

(29:45):
shaking my first like my first, the first shot I
ever took in the game. I set a screen for
Cors slipped it caught through me a float pass, and
I thought I was wild, hoping something like iring to
get my first bucket, like I'm gonna calm down, and
I tried to lay it up him. He can't. I
don't know where Brin came came since to the fifth row.

(30:08):
I didn't. I didn't score it to the second half.
I didn't get my first bucket to the second half.
What what was that your welcome to the NBA moment?
That was for sure my welcome to the NBA. My
first shot Bron came out of nowhere. I was. I
was so now, once you're here, you're Boston. You know,
you had mixed feelings. But going into someone's place with

(30:30):
so much tradition, so many championships, what it was it
like being a part of that organization? Once you know,
realize that's where you're going and that's where you're at. Yeah,
it was. It kind of reminded me of being a duke. Um,
you know, just so much winning history and tradition and
seeing all the banners they got up there and you know,
all the media attention. Uh duke really you know, really
prepared me to go to go to Boston and you know,

(30:53):
everything happened for a reason and it worked out really well.
So you know, I really enjoyed being in Boston so far.
And um, you know, playing in the Garden is it's
like no other place. Um. The fans are amazing and
just looking up there as a seventeen championships that we
have and all the great players that come before me
to put on their uniform is, um is crazy? What what?

(31:17):
What for my Celtics. Have you been able to speak
to our build a relationship with because I know when
we play for the Celtics, like talking to Paul, all
the former players, all the great to be around sometimes,
have you ever got a chance, even if it's Paul,
have you ever got a built a relationship with a
set a great Yeah, it would it would be Paul
and uh, Paul and KG. But you know, Paul is,

(31:39):
Paul is always. Paul Is around a lot more, especially
you know, working with ESPN, So I talked to him.
I talked to him pretty often. Um. So you know,
just you know, watching because I watched him growing up
as well, you know somebody, and you know I kind
of took a little bits and pieces from the game
and his footwork. His footwork is unbelievable. Yeah, he's the truth,

(32:03):
the truth. So just being able to talk to him
and you know, him giving me little insights and in
words of encouragement, uh, you know, go a long way,
because you know, oftentimes, you know, sometimes older players, you know,
sometimes talk down on the new generation or stuff like that.
And and it's a good feeling when you know somebody

(32:24):
like Paul peers Is, you know, welcomes you and uh,
you know tells you that you know, you could be
the next you know self degrade or whatever like that.
You know, Um, you know, that's an incredible feeling. That's
what's up. So going from being nervous in your first game,
getting your first shot, throwing back to St. Louis by
Lebron too too, doing your thing in the playoffs. You

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know what I mean, beat the Bucks in the first
round in seven games, beat the Sixers in five games,
and like I said, battled the funk out of the
Calves and in seven games, and so close to hed
at that game. I was at the game. You saw
the first thing my kids said when that came in
the first thing My twins said, when you're gonna dunk

(33:11):
on Brian again, you know what I mean? So that
was that was a crazy moment. But tell us what
that was like also considering Kyrie was out, you know,
I mean, so it was all up to the young
guns to kind of do your thing. And you got
stepped on that stage man, and and really one over,
I said, the world with the way you played the confident,
the way you played Duncan on motherfucker's bumping braun after
you dunked him, Like talk to us about that whole

(33:32):
first year run. Yeah, that was that might have been
like probably the most fun I ever had playing basketball
because Gordon Gordon got hurt the first game and I
got hurt with like probably it was like we played
like twenty games in the regular season at the end
without cost, so we we kind of was starting to
form our own identity. That we was gonna go into

(33:52):
the playoffs, and it was weird, like we was a
two seed, but like every nobody thought we was gonna
beat the Bucks, like because I was I was team
and JB was in his second year and we had
Terry and Smart and move, we had like a bunch
of like underdogs and things like that, and that really
like that really like boosted our confidence because we had
the home court advantage and you know, we were just

(34:14):
like we we just felt like we had nothing to lose.
So we we beat the Bucks in seven. So then
they was like, all right, you know, that was a fluke.
They're not gonna beat They're not gonna beat Philly, Philly
just I think Philly beat Miami like four one, you
know before that. So they was rolling. So they was like,
they're not gonna be Philly. So then we was up.
We was up on Philly three zero, and then they
came back and we beat them in five. So now

(34:36):
we like and like you said, we kind of won
the world over like just how we was playing, and
you know, I was leading the team in points. I
was having like nineteen, but like JV was giving us seventeen,
Terry was giving us seventeen and Horford and and my
man Muke was hooping. So we was really playing just
like free, like we had just nothing. Nobody had nothing
to lose. We were just going out and playing every

(34:57):
night and we was having so much fun. We was
locking up, you know, everybody was it was involved, and
you know once we played the Calves, yeah, we had
we could feel it like everybody was rooting for us,
like everybody, you know, it was like kind of a
feel good story, like people wanted us to see wanted
to see us do well, and even you know, to
take us to take them to Calves of Game seven
and play against bron like my first year in the league,

(35:20):
and that's like, that's that's something I'll never forget. Like
that that really has taught me a lot. And uh,
you know it really you know, Bill's character and boosted
you know, my confidence going into you know, you know. Now,
it was good to see Matt because like I said,
I was there, but to see two young guys in
the young team without without Kyrie, it was refreshing to me.

(35:41):
And it was it was one of my favorite series
to watch because I was happy to see some young
guys compete and take that challenge and been thrown on
the stage at a young age against Lebron. They didn't
back down. I see someone see so many guys in
the league that don't take the challenge, that back down.
But it was good to see two young guys that
I knew that was from that from that culture. They went.
Then they stepped up. They didn't win, but I think

(36:02):
the world was just happy to see some some young
talent come and compete and see the future getting ready
to rise in the league. That was That was refreshing
for me to see Bro. No question, that ship was
beautiful to watch. Talk to us a little bit about
that one particular play, you know the dunk, the bump.
You know that ship was on Sports Center top ten
what like. You know how I talked to how that dunk.

(36:23):
You know, I was talked about it and kind of
change things even no lot to this day, people either
tag me on Instagram or Twitter, like I see the
dunk every day since it some how many people straight

(36:46):
up now it's I gotta listen. I got a post
of it upstairs in my in my hallway, like my
mom got a post of it. My pops got one
in his house. Uh, it was crazy because you know,
I remember, I remember like it was yesterday. It was
in the fourth quarter. It was a low scoring game too,
so like those teams was kind of struggling a little bit,

(37:06):
and Brad caught the time out and he like, we're
settling too much for jumpers, you know, let's let's try
to get one. Let's try to get to the foul
and attack the rim. So I remember Smart had the
ball out comes set a pin down for me and
he was like, Jay, Tim, you get it. You know,
attack down here to make a play for yourself or
somebody else. So I remember I got it, and I
turned the corner and it's like everything kind of slowed

(37:27):
down for a second because I've seen Brian. I'm like, oh,
it's like I gotta try to dunk it, because if
like I didn't think I was on dunk on my mind, like,
let me just try to dunk it. Hopefully I get
the foul or something. So I'm like, oh, So like
the first for like five seconds, everything slowed down and
as soon as I jumped. As soon as I jumped,
it was like and then I'm coming down on the

(37:49):
ground and I don't I don't know why But I
bumped him and I yelled in his face and I
remember looked at me. I loved it. He after I
bumped him, he looked at me like, I'm like, oh,
let me get back on defense. That wasn't look though,
that was to look like, oh oh, this motherfucker is

(38:10):
for real. That was a look around, how how dare you?
But there's a look a little bit of respecting that
look too, like this little motherfucker came to hoot Man
for sure. And then you know, after that season, he
gave me one of the you know, the best compliments
you can get is you know you're built for stardom.
He saw the star in you obviously throughout the season,

(38:30):
especially in that in that playoff series, And what did
that mean to you to kind of be stamped by
arguably one of the greatest players of all time. He
gave me the problem M Yeah, like like you said, um,
you know, when I when I stepped on the floor,
like I don't, I don't. I never back down from anybody.
I tell myself like when I step on the floor

(38:51):
like I'm the best player out here, Like That's how
I approach it. But like I still I understand like
Lebron is what he means the basketball and what he
means the players like myself, and you know, just basketball
in general, like what he's done so much for the game.
So to get that, you know, that nod from him,
it's a big deal. Um, you know, you you you
appreciate that, you know, just getting recognized. But you said

(39:13):
one of the one of the greatest. How important was
the team us say experience to you? That was super important.
I'm glad I was able to be a part of it. Um.
I got hurt in our second game, so I didn't
I didn't get to play. Uh you know the rest
of the turning we end up we end up losing.
But really just learning from from Pop Man was like

(39:34):
that was so beneficial to myself and and I think
the way I played this this this season honestly, you know,
he really challenged He challenged me every day in film
and in practice. And I remember he sat me down
one day we was in front of the uh was
in the elevator and we got off the elevator. He
sat me down there like one of the stools in
the hallway. He was like, He's like, can I talk

(39:54):
to you? Like, yeah, Pop and he's like, I want
to I want to tell you something, and I hope
you don't get offended. And I don't know what you're
about to say, because Pop crazy like, here's say whatever
you want and you say whatever. Hey, Jack knows. Yeah,
he like, I hope I don't offend you. But he's like,
you could be. You could be like Kawhi Leonard And

(40:15):
I said why would I be? I said, why would
I be offended? Pop? He's like, oh, I'm just making sure.
He was like a lot of guys think they are
two way players, but it's only a few guys that
are actually good enough and able to do it. And
I feel like you have the capability of being a
two way, a real two way player in this league.
And ever since then, he challenged me every day on
defense and practice, and that kind of carried into this season.

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That's dope. Well, I just thought overall, like you said,
the experience, the chance for you, Kimba, Jalen and Marcus
just to all be around that kind of coaching staff
and other stars was gonna pay dividends. Because you know,
Kimba's still young, but you know, especially that your your
young core just get just rubbing off, you know, rubbing
you know, being around great coaches, being having that experience,

(41:01):
and then the confidence is gonna carry over into the
next season. And I think you touched on that. Um
in February, you average thirty per game, becoming only the
fifth self behind some classic names have the check Bird,
Pierced Isaiah Thomas, you being five. What goes through your
head when you hear those names and knowing you have
a place in Celtics history. Uh, that was I mean

(41:27):
that it kind of like shocked me. You know when
you when you put those those names up there, those
are you know, some of the greatest. And even I
t when he was here for those two years, he
was he was an animal. Um. But you know I
was just I was just in a groove. I remember
it kind of like the switch kind of click for
me when once I felt when I once I found
out I made the All Star Game. Um, it was

(41:50):
like it was like some pressure was was relieved because
coming into the season, that was like that was my
main focus was making an All Star Game because I
didn't make it my second year, and you know a
lot of people were you know, doubt me in and
count me out and I felt like this was kind
of like my my my last chance to like, you know,
kind of show people like I'm still you know, I'm

(42:11):
still able and capable to do what I do. So
making making an off star game was such a big
deal for me, and I was I was like pressing,
and it was like messing with me mentally this season.
You know, if I had a bad game, I'd be sick, like, damn,
I'm not gonna make it. But then I have a
good game. All right, I think I'm gonna make it.
But once I found out I made it, it was
just like all right, like let's hoop now. And then
you know, I think from that point I was averaging

(42:32):
like thirty thirty something like that. Your mind's got to
be free. It's a beautiful thing. Talk to us a
little bit about, like you said, so a successful obviously
rookie season to run. You guys had the playoff front.
You have take a step back that second year there's
the here, there's chemistry issues, and here Kyrie is the problem.
Me here there's no ball moving you hear a whole
a bunch of things. What was the difference between that

(42:55):
second year team in the third year team now where
you're flourishing as All Star. The chemistry seemed to be
back on track. Um, what changed? You know, outside of
changing you know Kyrie, Kyrie and Kimba, who are similar
players to us sense you know from the outside looking in.
But what has been the big difference and why are
you guys back to the chemistry we saw as fans

(43:18):
your your rookie year. Uh. I think there was a
lot of things that I think played a part of that.
My my second year, Like you said, we had that group,
that young group. You know, we we we almost get
like a couple of stops away from getting to the championship.
So it's like we we had a big summer, you know,
guys are we're filling ourselves. We're excited. We were ready

(43:39):
to take that next jump. I think, you know, I'm
I'm ready to be an All Star in my second year.
But now we got Gordon and Cole coming back, and
like we we everybody, but we all had good guys,
Like everybody got along, you know, we we like being
around each other. But I think it was just like
everybody had kind of like personal goals, which is not wrong. Um,
you know, we we all were a fault to some degree.

(44:01):
You know, I didn't play great, JB. You know, nobody
played as good as they wanted, and then we weren't winning,
So that had it like that affected us as well.
I remember the first twenty games, we was ten and ten,
and everybody thought we was gonna have a best record
in the in the league, and like we we just
weren't consistent. We have like a stretch where we like
we're winning five or six in a row, but then
we'll go one and one in six and I think

(44:24):
we just it just we just couldn't figure it out.
And you know, coming in this third year, we lost
like six or seven guys, and basically the message coming
into this season was like last year, like let's just
forget about it. Like last year happened. Um, we can
learn a lot from it individually and as a team,
but like, let's just forget about it. We can't change
what happened, so let's just focus on this year and

(44:45):
try not to make the same mistakes we did last season.
And I think we've been doing a pretty good job
of that, uh so far. So I mean I really
felt you guys were coming on strong, especially chemistry Rise
Jack and I both know being able to be on
championship teams. Chemistry is it is and you really fear
see and feel like you guys are having fun out there.
You and JB. You're going back and forth doing your thing.

(45:05):
Kai does this? Excuse me, Kimba was doing this thing.
Gordon's getting his footing back under him. You guys are
playing really well. You know you were to me, you
guys are not necess the surprise team of the East
because we know how good and talented you guys were,
but just coming off that second season, we're just like, well,
what team are we gonna get? You know what I mean?
So you guys are proving in that second half of
the season man, that you guys are definitely a team
to be reckoned with. And I was looking forward to

(45:28):
this playoff from what are your thoughts and how optimistic
are you about us? Or excuse me, you guys returning
to the court this season. To be honest, now, I
don't I don't know. It's like one week you hear
one thing and then the next week you hear something else.
So I honestly, I don't know. I feel like, you know,
I feel like it may be tough to come back. Um,

(45:51):
you know, so many obstacles and variables that you got
to put in place and work things out. And you know,
and I hear like plans, uh plan without fans, Like
I don't, I don't. I know a lot of people
probably don't know. I don't want to do that because
I just think that's you lose a lot of the
passion for the game. And like that's kind of who

(46:11):
we played for. We played for the fans. We play
the game energy energy, We feed off of that. So
I mean, I mean, they got people that's gonna try
to figure it out one way or another. But to
be honest, man, at this point, I don't know what's
gonna happen. You and Kyrie got a good got a
good Duke connection, you know, y'all big y'all been brothers.
What was it like playing with him in Boston and

(46:31):
now now with him being in Brooklyn. Uh yeah, that's
that's like my big brother. Um obviously the Duke connection.
And I joked with him all the time he only
played nine games at Duke, So I like, bro, you
really didn't what you play, You only what you only
play you only played, y'all. Both was in and out
that motherfucker though, But yeah, I'm playing with uh. You know,

(46:54):
we have to say at the same time, we have
the same agent. And then you know, playing two years
with him, Um, you know it, like especially my first year,
Like I don't people, I don't care, like people might
think he crazy, but Kai got he got game, like
he wanted the He one of the most skilled basketball players.
Like however, like me me getting to see it, especially

(47:19):
my first year, it's it's a difference being on the
court with him and seeing it and every day every
game and then practice, like just some of the things
he did with the ball, it was just like mind
boggling to me. And the way he was able to
finish like he he like he's special. Uh, and he's
one of the he one of the best players. I've
got this was able to see and in person and

(47:41):
play with and you know, his descision to go to
Brooklyn obviously, I mean a lot of people was mad
and things like that. But you know, us as basketball players,
we understand like once you get to a certain level
and a certain point in your career, like you've earned
the right to make the decision on what makes you
happy and what you want to do so I was,
I mean I was. I was happy for him. You

(48:01):
know that's he wanted to go back home and be
close to his family and played, you know, something he
dreamed about. I think everybody should have the opportunity because
you know, you know, you can get traded in a
blink of eye, and and you know, nobody getting mad
at the organization, but you know everybody pointed the finger
when somebody wants to go do what makes them happen. Facts. Absolutely,

(48:22):
it's the it's the business when you're traded, cut waved,
But you're a bad guy when you take your happiness
and freedom into your own hands as a cold game.
Your first All Star appearance, you you you spoke on
how nerve wracking it was being up to that, you know,
leading up to that time you're named an All Star.
Talk to us about what that was like, and you
know what kind of the ex heale you took, like ship,

(48:43):
I'm here now, I was supposed to be here possibly
last year, but I'm here now. Tell us what that
was like. Man also was Uh, it's a great experience.
I was there my first two years with the rookie
and sophomore game. But it's a different vibe. It's a
different like I had a different walk about myself this time.
I was like I'm an All Star now, like, yeah,

(49:05):
we've seen it, straight up, straight up. I had a
different walk. And I remember the best part about it
was Sunday during when we got to the game and
I walked in the locker room and like I got
to see my jersey and that it was just like like, man,
like this is what you dreamed about, Like you, I
finally made it. And I looked at my left lebron

(49:26):
locker next to me and Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook
and James Harden and Dame Lillard and and Anthony Davis,
you know, all guys that like when I was in
middle school and high school watching these guys playing. Now
we're on the same team. I think that's the coolest
part about being an All Star, Like getting the opportunity
to maybe whether it's three or five minutes you in
the game and it's not really meaningful, but just being

(49:48):
able to be on the court with like, all right,
I'm on the court with Kauai and Chris Paul, you know,
just being able to play with different guys that you
know you may not never get to play with uh
it was was it was incredible. Espec see the way
that the the format change this year. You know, the last
couple of minutes of the game was it was crazy
and I loved. I love the way they did that,
and uh it was it was in trouble for the

(50:09):
players and indroable for the fans and everybody watching. So
you know, I think the nybody did a great job
with that. Okay, from the All Star Game to a
regular season or just period. What's the toughest player you
like to battle with? The toughest player? Uh uh, it's

(50:30):
it's either like Kauai, Mellow, Paul George. I would say
Katie was hurt this year. So so it'll be between
those three because those are all three guys like I like,
we'll watch film on the high school and you know,
study their moves and not get to play against me.
You know, Mellow is a little bit older, but you

(50:51):
know with Paul George and Kauai being on the same team,
and especially like Kauai Kauai, he like he he that Dealey.
Yeah it's not flashy, but he gets the job done.
So I always like watching him and you know how
hard he compete on both ends. Um, you know, I

(51:14):
like watching the Clippers play when I'm not playing. What
was it like to be able to drop Paul George
on that move and then still hit the shot. It's
one of the better defenders in the game. You hit
him with the old that old move got him and
then we're still able to knock down the shot. Yeah, no,
it was. It was crazy. PG is somebody that you know,

(51:35):
obviously I looked up to and kind of built a
relationship with. You know, since I was in college. I
talked to from time to time, and you know, I
just remember getting him off that switch, and I mean
we got tangled up a little bit, so you know,
he probably stepped on my foot or something. But you know,
just as he failed, and then it was like I
gathered myself. I'm like, man, you gotta hit this then,

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but I couldn't celebrate because we it was tied, so
I just play. It was a hell of a game,
feel like now, it was a good game. Yeah, yeah,
a hell of a game. Talk to me a little
bit about because I see the joy and the pride
you're taken in in fatherhood and becoming a star simultaneously,
you know, you bring your son around a lot. Talk
to us about what that balance is like and how

(52:16):
rewarding being a father is to you. Yeah, it's it's uh,
it's it's don't like anything I thought it was gonna be.
You know, I knew I was gonna have I found
out I was gonna have a kid like the end
of the last month or two of college. Um, so
it was I was. I was nineteen at the time.
So I moved to Boston, moved my my family out here,

(52:38):
and I got drafted. So it's like everything just kind
of like my words got turned upside down like and
all in the span of six months. And I remember
I was so nervous because it was like I was
so I was so like worried and concentrated, like I'm
gonna be like I'm gonna be one of the best.
I'm gonna be a star, like I'm not gonna let
nothing get in that way. But now it's now it's

(52:59):
like I gotta I got a son, and I want
to be the best father I can be. So it's like,
all right, I look at it as a challenge like
I'm I'm gonna do both, Like I'm gonna be one
of the best in the league, and I'm gonna be
you know, I'm gonna be there with him every step
of the way. And it's it's been a joy. I mean,
I got help. You know, his mom is up here,
and my mom helps me out a lot, obviously with traveling.
But you know, any chance I get, I'm always with him.

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And you know, I take more pride and being a
father than I do playing being a basketball player. So
there's nothing like it that the joy is is incredible.
So we salute you, man. We we both all got
kids and know that feeling. Man, but we can see
it in your face, in your eyes when you bring
him around and and and really kind of show him out.
And I think that's dope. Man. Music today, it's just

(53:44):
going to music. What's you listen to nowadays? And there
in the artists a song gonna repeat right now. I
got like my I got my favorite, like the people
who are my favorite. But I listen to everybody, so
it's like whatever is new, like the baby got some
new little baby, um a boogie. You know, I always
listened to you know, what's what's latest, So I'm always

(54:04):
a fan of that. But I still got the guys,
that's like my favorite. You know who who is? Just
you know that? List on? Stay there? Who's your goal to?
Who's your favorites? Who's your top five? You're starting five
in the rap game, like my start my my five?
All right? Hold Hold is the HOVI is the he
the greatest, Hove is he is? He's a goat. I

(54:26):
got drinking number two. I think Drake my favorite, but Hold,
I thought I got Hold is the great So I
got hold Drake. I got little Wayne Wayne Them three
is goats. Wayne is Wayne is number three? Mm hmmm,
uh way his money? Yeah Wayne, he he did. He
would go to them three Biggie biggie number four. Uh,

(54:55):
I mean I thought, I thought Nelly and that nearly
number five. He got to Man, you got mad at
that number five? Country Grandma. Yeah, he puts Come on, man,
he put y'all on the map for real. Get the
stomping in the air force once many rappers Diamond, not many.

(55:17):
He definitely want of him. If any rapper could name
drop you on the song, what rapper would you want
that to be? Just one? Mm hmmm who? Because you know,
because you know whatever you say now not since as
you say it on here. It's gonna happen. I know

(55:42):
you can if you want to, you can give us
two if you want it. You can't just give it
to I'm I'm not gonna say hold. I'm not gonna
say hold because he don't really like make music like that.
No more so I'm not gonna say hold mm hmmm. Not.
I ain't gonna say Drake neither out for for real.

(56:04):
If if Little Wayne or Yo Gotti, if Little Wayne
and Yo gotta said my name in the song because
my favorites too, so as much as much as Little
Wayne watched basketball, trust me, it's coming. I need one
of the next the next mixtapes, Dedication seven or something.

(56:25):
I need. I need to hear my name. Yeah straight uh.
You you joked that you got a top five hairline
in the game back in my day, Like I sound
the oldest fun I was. You was leading boy, My
ship was Chris Bonny. It was your top three hair

(56:49):
lines in the game right now. No, yeah, Matt, you
was fresh. Yeah we got a hole down, but you
got like a no bullshit. You gotta like that picture
perfect hairline though, like your ship is perfect in the
front and then the drop down in the hooks like,
I definitely admired your ship. You know, I'll be looking
at the hairlines like a motherfucker. You gotta got nice

(57:11):
crispy one. Sure, I got my head all right now,
she looks crazy right now, I got I gotta mother beano.
I feel you top top three hairlines myself. Who else
be fresh? PG? I get it, the PG got you
gotta seek that sick hairline, the third one, the third one.

(57:32):
It could be. I ain't gonna lie. Uh. What's my
man name, fred Fred van Fleet? He keep he keep
a fresh cut. I peep that. Yeah, I think it's no,

(57:53):
it's no disrespect to people your complexion, Jack, because sometimes
we couldn't see the hair on your head. But I
think when your light skinned with that, I was live
that when you can see it, you can see hey.
But that was the one thing, one thing that used
to funck me up, Jack. And sometimes we couldn't see
your hair, Like no, your tattoos. I'm like, damn, I
know the motherfucker's testoo, suff you can't even see them.

(58:22):
You got some tattoos. The wady could even see them.
Business all right, man, we're going, we're coming coming down
the home stretch. We're gonna go into quick hitters. Go
ahead and start him off. Jack All right, quick kids. Okay,
now listen before I ask you this question. Your answer.
If you know or have are connected to the answer

(58:43):
of this question, you have to plug us and make
sure what happens. Who would you like to see as
a guest on our show? As a guest on our show,
guests on your show, you don't have to be a
basketball player. No, anybody, No, not at all, anybody I've
seen my favorite My favorite show so far was KG.
KG was my favorite one so far. But if I

(59:03):
could pick somebody, probably that's a tough one. I know, right,
that's a tough one. Meek Meal, maybe Nick Melill be nice. Yeah,
we need to have meek on Hill to talk to
me about two great call Ya had Denzil on here?

(59:25):
No ship we wish? Yeah, that's probably not that easy,
but Denzil that would be dope as hell. Most of
most most underrated player in the league. He said he
didn't know neither one of them. He can't hook him
up with either, one of most underrated player in the league.

(59:52):
In your opinion, I might be biased, but I think
I think Brad Bill might be one of the most
underrated players. Like he averaged thirty one this season and
he didn't make the Austar game. Yeah, Like I feel
like if he's probably if he was in a bigger market,
you know that he would be on ESPN more. But
I don't know what it is like real basketball fans,
you know, they know and they know like how good

(01:00:14):
he is. But I think he needs more. He needs
more attention because he's killing killer player with them with
the most swag. What player has the most swag to
you off the courter on the court total this period period?
I ain't my man, my man trow Terry Terry rose
Yer out there in Charlotte rose Yeah, yeah, hut. And

(01:00:37):
he shows you currently binge watching. I've been trying to
watch that a little bit. I was. It starts off slow.
It's just starts stick with it, stick with it. It
starts slow. But that should get going crazy, bro crazy.
That's what I'm a big I'm a big power guy.
Power was my shop, great show favorite Quarantine, Snacks a

(01:01:00):
race race, Crispy, treat them and them good old honey buns.
The honey buns go wrong and put them bars in
the micro You don't look, man, you don't take them.
You don't take them out the plastic. What you do
is you open the top part and you leave it
in the plasts, and you put the whole thing in
the microwave. You're feeling me. You put the whole thing
in the microwave by fifteen By fifteen seconds made, I'm

(01:01:25):
telling you, fifteen seconds. It's over with, It's over Oh jack, Jack,
you're talking to a fellow stone bro. You don't think
I know how to heat up a motherfucking honey bun.
I'm just saying, man, I had to to red to
reenact because it took me the when he said, honey,
but I went there almost them is fired. Uh. Favorite

(01:01:45):
retro jersey, the old school magic Joint with the strike
with the black joints. The Black Ship was hard shocking
Penny days. I hope Penny centers that one too. Um
you have if you can get court side seats to
any game and any time in any era, what game
would it be? Oh? Uh, courtside to two thousand one?

(01:02:08):
When when when when a I played? When they played
the Lake Lakers and step stepped over to loo then
went in to stole that game. That was the only
game the Lakers lost in the playoffs that year. That
give me your top five in the game in the

(01:02:29):
history of the game, in the history yep, Mike, Mike, Mike,
Brian Kobe, Mike, Kobe Bryant, like they two and three,
whatever way you want to put it. Yeah, yeah, it's
tough because it's like I I didn't see Bill Russell player.

(01:02:50):
I didn't see what Chamberlain, I didn't see Larry Bird. No,
go with want you to go with what you know.
We feel the same way about something the older wy
we we feel that because so go with what you
know him? No, I respect him, I just didn't see
him play. So Magic Johnson and number four and then
the third for the fifth spot is between Sat Kareem

(01:03:11):
and KD for real, he might be in the top
five already. Katie is a killer, and I think people
take they take his talent for granted and may like
not like something about him so they don't give them
to do. Just as far as his game on the quarter,
but this game on the court is second to none. Second,

(01:03:31):
when he stepped on that when he when he lays
him up, he he he laces him, he laces them.
Hold you better have your shoes on tight. All right,
this is a final segment of the show. It's Stephen
Jesse Jackson's begging segment. Jack take it away. Yes, I'll
take it away. So therefore we just talked about how

(01:03:52):
I was rudely and abruptly booted from the Jordan family.
Shout out to my BOI. They still showing me just
that's just stort me love because Mike. You know, Mike
understands that I the first person to get his team,
his organization to the playoffs. Nothing about me, though, Um
you got I needed. I needed Jersey brod. Could I
get some Green Player exclusives shoes from you? Bro? I

(01:04:17):
know you got. I know you got some green with
I keep find the green was nowhere, the ones you
play in, the ones I'm play in. Yeah, I can
do that. You love. That's love. Appreciate easy, that's easy.
That's easy love. And I'm gonna hit you up for
some kids shoes. That's all I want. I don't want
nothing for me, all right, man. That's around bro. Thanks Bro,

(01:04:42):
Jason sator Man, we appreciate you. Thank you for taking
some time with us. Man. Best of luck if the
season comes back. Uh, stay healthy, Uh you know, keep
being a great dad and keep doing your thing. Man.
We appreciate your time today. Pick up, pick out right
when you live out, bro, you say, I got keep
holding it down for the light skins with the good hairline.

(01:05:03):
See my love. That's a wrap, Jack the show, good
day to day stack, good job, my boy. That's a wrap.
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