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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shooters, an unrestricted free agent this year, probably made one
of the most bonehead decisions in the history of the
league by turning down at eighty four million dollar extension.
Mattie Johnson came out and said, Schroeder is not Laker material.
I don't think he's gonna get the hundred many men,
and he's looking for for sure, not the Legers. And
if anybody know belongs in the Leger for him is magic. Johnson.
Welcome back to what's burning. We're in the midst of
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the playoffs. Jack. Let's start first with the Nets and Bucks.
The Bucks were able to tie it to two at home,
showing some life. Joannice Middleton, Holiday Tucker all had strong outings.
Big loss for the Nets. Kyrie Irving goes down with
the severely sprained ankle. Thoughts on game four and what
has to happen in game five? Uh, you know they
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I think they're doing a great job on Jhannese. He
only has three moves and they think they're starting to
figure it out. I think the biggest thing that I've
been taking away from the game is Militon Milton is
really coming to his own. You have a lot of
guys that's supposed to be stars that don't show up
in the in the postseason. Militon is really carrying his
team right now. He's making the big shots. He's making
the big plays. And also you gotta give p J.
Tucker credit but making it difficult for Katie. But going forward,
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the next have to get healthy, man, they have to
get healthy. Um, it's a series now. Kyleeminder is definitely
I'm pretty sure he's gonna be out next game. So
Katie really has to make it easy for himself. Stop
dribbling the ball to cork catch the Boston want to
post the area and save some energy, and because they're
definitely gonna need him to be at his best. Yeah,
I agree. I mean p J Tucker uh playing good
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d great? D Uh What I like that? I mean
they're letting Tucker really body up k D Like this
is reminds me of late nineties, early two thousands defense.
I mean, nowadays you can't really touch no one, but
you're seeing p J. Tucker really put his body and
be physical. Coach Nash spoke about it after a game,
calling some of the players not even basketball players. So
Tucker is definitely doing a good job. And trying to
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slow k D down. But one thing you can't count
on is Katie going nine for twenty five from the field. Again,
They're gonna have to make some adjustments. I mean, Katie
is really the only playmaker out there now, So how
does he get the rest of the guys involved and
still will score at a high level? Is what's gonna
be interesting. Um. Obviously, with Kyrie missing probably most likely
gonna miss game five, does that mean James Hardness gonna
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try to rush his progress. I mean, he can try
to rush it, or they can try to rush it,
but we all know hamstrings, man, hamstrings. You're not gonna
know if you can really go until you have to
make an instinctual decision or an instinctual reaction. You can
test it all you want, because all of those are
calculated moves, but you're not really gonna know until you're
in the game. Um, if you have it. So obviously,
this is everyone's favorite or our favorites to come out
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of the East and possibly contend for a title. But
if they're not healthy, uh, I mean, this is this
is a big opportunity for Milwaukee to to overcome them
and hopefully head to the Eastern Conference Final, So this
is gonna be interesting to watch the next series we
had East with the Hawks and Sixers. Philly regained home
court advantage by going into Atlanta and taking game three.
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Game four is tipping off shortly. Man In Beads, Simmons,
and Harris all delivered in Game three, and normally when
their bench plays well, it's always gonna be a good
sign for Philly. Um. I low key think Atlanta is
just out masters deep as they are. I think this
is a great valuable playoff experience, but I just think
Philly is too deep. Jack, what are your thoughts on
tonight's Game four and moving forward? Do you think Atlanta
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can push this to a six or seven game series?
I really don't. Man and beat it just too much.
And if he's if he's healthy and he's able to
do what he's been doing, he's gonna dominate the game.
He's gonna put his in print in the game and
make sure they win. Atlanta has to has to mix
the game up. They get like it's the old saying,
they gotta throw some ship in the game. Um, They're
gonna have to either hack Ben Simmons do a hacker.
Ben Simmons. It's something to try to take their momentum
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where you can't just let uh and be get the
ball every play and and and dominate the game. Harris
is playing well, Simmons is actually playing was also um.
But if they can kind of try to mix this
game up, make the game a little dirty, they have
a better chance of winning. But if they're just playing
basketball and let him be do what you want to do,
they're gonna be going home. Really, it's gonna be trouble.
Um notable Dan Danny Green's out two weeks with the
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calf strain. DeAndre Hunter is out for the Hawks. I
think it's important. I was Atlanta has a home game
tonight if they can win this game and and maybe
push it to six. But if they lose tonight, I
see Philly closing it out in Philly next game and
onto the Eastern Conference finals for the seventy sixers. So
we'll have to pay attention to see how that goes
headed out West, big matchup tonight between the Clippers and Jazz.
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Game five will be on Wednesday. Paul George stepped up
big and answered the call by leading the Clippers last game.
Him and Kauai were incredible. Found out. Serge Ibaka has
had sending season engine back surgery. Uh. The Clippers used
that small ball formula to to mess the game up
though some ship in the game, as they did with Dallas,
and it worked well for them versus Utah. Jack thoughts
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on Game three, Game four tonight and moving forward what
you see in this series, Well, Paul and Kauai have
to be dominant. Um if they're not gonna use Buggie
and let Bussy Tech Boogie take go Bart out the game,
paula gonna have to be dominant like there was last game.
A lot of people put a lot of pressure on
on Paul, me myself as well, because I know what
he can do and I know what he means to
that team. But if they be that one two points,
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they could definitely gonna be hard to beat. I think
the question about this series is who's gonna be good
enough to win the game on the road. Both of
these seems struggle on the road in the playoffs. What
team is gonna be that team to get a win
on the road, And I think that's gonna tell the
tell of the series. Donovan Mitchell has came out the
gate strong man averaging thirty seven UM through the first
three games, went down with that right ankle injury and
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didn't return. Possibly could have returned, but the game was
kind of out of hand, so I think coach Snyder
kept him on the sideline. Jordan Clarks has been playing
his ass off at about nineteen points a game, hit
six threes in Game one, end Game two. Bob Donovich,
Ingles Gobert, all doing what they're supposed to do. I'm
impressed what this team has been able to do without
their starting all star point guarding Mike Conley. Yeah. I think.
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I think the good thing about it is they they're
excited about having Connley back, but Jackson has been playing
well on the other side, so um, I think they're
gonna even each other out. Jackson has really stepped up
for the Clippers, man, and he's been hit some big
shots for them too, so it's gonna be good to
see that matchup. I think Tyler made a great adjustment
by finally taking the handcuffs off Jackson. He's beginning he
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was getting he was getting pulled in and out all season.
They were going with Pat Bev as a starting guard,
and then Pat BEV went down towards the end of
the season and gave Jackson really a chance to show
how good he I mean, we all know how talents
he is, but he's definitely been playing his ass off.
Probably the unsung hero for that Clipper team this round.
Man been hitting big shots, making big plays, keeping the
team fired up. This is gonna be an interesting series.
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I mean, you know, Clippers went down oh two last
last series, and we're able to get Dallas in seven tonight.
They got a chance to even up the series at
two to two. Could they possibly be I think they'd
be the first team in NBA history to go down
oh two in the first two rounds and win both series.
But you know, with all the injuries happening, I mean,
to me, this playoff is wide open now. Obviously, we
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thought the Lakers were gonna be the favorite in the West,
they got hurt. We thought that Nets were gonna be
the favorite in the East. Now they're hurt. I think
this opens a door for everybody, whether it's Phoenix, Utah,
the Clippers out West Milwaukee, Philly. I mean, there's no
clear cut favorite this year, and I think that's the
first time in a while we haven't had a clear
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cut favorite man, so these playoffs have been great. Hopefully
everyone can stay healthy so we can see the best
of these teams. But we all know injuries are a
part of the game. It takes a lot of luck
to get through this ship and we're gonna see who finishes, uh,
you know, finishes on their feet on the radar presented
to you by Draft Kings. Sons were able to sweep
the Nuggets last night, improving their odds to plus one
thirty five to win the West. The Jazz red plus
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one twenty. The Clippers are at plus three twenty. CB
three lad the Suns last night, with obviously a lot
of help from Deva Booker. In the closeout game, CP
had thirty seven, book had thirty four. They're able to
now rest up and get some more time for Chris's
shoulder to heal. Uh. The Sons are very impressive and
I think we definitely owe them some respect. I mean,
you're lying. Whoever says they saw the Suns in the
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Western Conference final at the beginning of playoffs are lying.
Although we're huge fans of CP three, the odds were
just stacked against him, but he's been able to overcome
that shoulder injury and leave these guys to the Western
Conference Finals. And I couldn't be happier for this team, Jack,
what are your thoughts on them and him and Book
and the rest of the Phoenix Suns. Well, I remember
texting CP three probably a month ago that he was
my m v p um and he definitely played like
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last night. Him and Book of definitely a two headed
monster that's kind of looking unstoppable right now. Um. I
love the way they're playing. I love the way they
went there and dominated, and uh and and and and
made they claim for a team that's that's to be
reckoned with in the Western Conference. Obviously, I don't have
them win in the Western Conference. If the Clippers can
make it out, I see the Clippers who are making
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out this series. I see the Clippers winning it. But
I would love to see these two teams go ahead
to here in the West Conference finals. Now I agree.
I mean, and what I like about the Sun so
obviously the story the journey of coach williams Uh you
know him and Chris being so close, but the way
they've been able to get everyone else outside of their
two superstars to play well. Aton's been playing well, Crowder
has been playing well. All the young kids off the
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bench are playing like they've done this before. You know,
this is a lot of their first time in the playoffs,
and these guys that have not been shined by the lights,
they continuing to play hard and they're playing the best
basketball in the playoffs right now. So for me to
continue to go against them, I don't know if I'm
gonna do that. I'm gonna wait and see who comes
out of this Utah and the Clipper series. But right now,
you know, Phoenix is hot, man. And we all know
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it's not always who the best team is, is who's
the who's playing the best at the right time, And
the Phoenix Suns are definitely playing the best at the
right time. You remember in the bubble last year they
won eighth straight. Um, I think there's seven and one
in the playoffs or eight and one in the playoffs now,
So playing really good basketball and looking forward to what
they're able to do in the in the Western Conference Finals. Again,
shout out to our man CP three. Some argue should
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have been the m v P. I was definitely on
that bandwagon, but hey, is what it is. But the
best of luck for them moving forward. Had a great
opportunity man to sit down with my man Phil Handy,
who's been collecting rings the past few years, one of
the best basketball minds in the game. His episode drops
this Thursday, June. Enjoy this teaser. I have a like
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a real deep appreciation and for the journey that I've
been on because of because of how I became a
coach in the NBA. You know, Mike Brown obviously gave
me an opportunity. I wasn't a dude that was you know,
had a long NBA career. I mean, I had a
long basketball career and played overseas. But I've always had
this thing of for me personally, man, I just I
want to compete to win. That's just it's in me.
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And you know that it doesn't always work out like
that everybody does. But I got to the Lakers. You know, again,
I was obviously at the end of Kobe's career going
going into it. You know, we had our struggles with
that team. But when I went to Cleveland, Mike got
fired and he asked me to come to Cleveland. One
of the things he said to me was one we
want you to mentor Kyrie to that there's a chance
of le Bron might come back to Cleveland, who knows.
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So I went to Cleveland my first year. We were terrible.
Dog shit, We're just young team trying to figure it out.
And Bron came back the next year and we went
through that season, ups and downs. You know, kay Love
was getting in the ready whole career, and we ended
up making to the finals. Once we got there. For
me now like walking into an oracle going back home
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from So that first opportunity was just like, man, this
is crazy. And when we got there, all I kept
saying to myself was, man, there's nothing else. There's no
other feeling that you want. Now, look, it's not guaranteed,
but I've always wanted to put myself in a position
and where every year I want to be part of
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a team that's trying to compete for a championship. That's
my mindset, competitor in man. People, you know, some people
say you'ring chasing. What do you call it? Whatever you want?
I want to win. I'm not in this for money
or you know what. I'm I'm a purious to the
game of basketball. So what opportunities can I put myself
in to where we can compete for a championship. And
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you know, went through that run in Cleveland kind of
like I went through a spell where my time in
Cleveland kind of came to a you know, it came
to an end. I was there for five years and
then it was like what's next. So, you know, I
knew bron was was leaving out of the East and
Toronto had been a team that we have been competing against,
you know, for years in the playoffs, and I always
kind of felt like the only reason why they couldn't
make that hump was because Bron was just every year
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and they did to run into him at some point
in our teams. So when the whole thing shifted, you know,
I played for Nick Nurse in Europe, so Nick became
the head coach and I looked at Toronto said, man,
they have a team that can compete. And this was
before Kauai. I looked at the mar I loved this game.
I love Kyle Lowry, I love some of the young
players that they had, and I said, man, shoot, it's
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the East is wide open. There's a chance there. So
when the opportunity presented itself, I said, I'm going to Toronto.
You know, Nick wanted me on the staff man. Two
days after I signed my contract and agreed to terms,
I woke up ESPN Troynto Raptors have traded Martin Rosen
for kau Bro. I was like, come on man, Like
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you said, man, I'm like, I'm like, come on man again,
just utmost respect for tomorrow because he's a he's a cooper,
competitive and you know, I didn't know why. But when
he came to came to Toronto and saw that he
was healthy, I was like, look, man, we gotta we
got a real chance, Bro, you have a real chance.
And so that year went the way it went. You know,
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I have a seven year old son who lives here
in l A. You know, Brian. Me and Brian always
kept in touch. So it just it worked out for
me to come back to l A and we go
back to the finals again. I couldn't I couldn't write
this story. You know. The only thing I can do
is one be grateful, you know, because like you said,
it's not guaranteed. I have a lot of respect for
a lot of coaches that are coaching the league for
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thirty years. Some have never been to the finals. Some
of the never been to a conference finals. So I
don't look at this journey and say it's been a
cake walk. You know, I'm just looking at Sam and
I keep my head down every day, keep grinding and
keep working and just try to try to put yourself
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some big time point guards potentially changing cities this summer.
Let's start with Kimba Walker, who showed his displeasure as
the Celtics tried to shop him. He's owed seventy million
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over the next two years. Someone who found himself in Charlotte,
missed six games and four seasons there, has missed forty
five games in the last two seasons. With Boston, He's
owed a lot of money. High profile point guards haven't
worked there in the past couple of years. Obviously that
the Kyrie experiment didn't work. This doesn't look like it's working.
What are your thoughts with Kimba's decision and uh him
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moving forward? Uh, He's a great player. Definitely is some
guard that can help in the organization. I just don't
know where Matt uh. He had a great opportunity in Charlotte,
was an All Star, was the leader of that team,
was a Jordan Baskett. Everything was looking good for him
in Charlotte. That didn't work. You get to Boston, you
have two of the greatest young stars in the game
right now, and that's not being able to work. So
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I really don't know what's the fifth form of what's
going on. Obviously, UM, I think he wants a bigger role,
But at the same time, you have to look in
the mirror and know who you are. You're not that
big of a guard, You're not the greatest defender at
point guard. So I just think um, he has a
way as obviously to see what's best for him. But
if you can make it work in Boston, I think
you should because I think that's his best bet at
winning and being able to to look good from stuff
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with those two young stars with him. See, I don't
know if, if if Boston needs a scoring point guard,
I think they need more of a playmaker. Obviously, you know,
a Rondo type, not a Rondo Rondo. You know Rondo's
on the back stide of his career. But when you
have two point scoring a night wings, I don't know
if you need a twenty point a night scoring point guard.
I think you need more of a playmaker, decision maker,
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guys that can settle down, get them into offense, get
them into something. So I'm not really sure that Kimba
is a great fit there. And the biggest thing is
he he hasn't been able to stay healthy. You know,
he's had the knee issues in Boston. When he's played well,
the team has been well. But he's been in and
out so much the past two Season's kind of hard
to get a real good measure on what he what
what those three stars can do. So it'll be interesting
to see what happens is offseason. He still owed a
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lot of money over the next two seasons, and like
you said, he's not the biggest guy and he's not
as durable as they used to be. So it'll be
interesting to see um if he's able to stay or
you know, the the Celtics make a move with him.
So we'll have to stand by and check that out.
Next up, who should the Lakers target to replay Shrewder.
Shredder is an unrestricted free agent this year, probably maybe
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one of the most bonehead decisions in the history of
the league, by turning down an eighty four million dollar
extension offered to him earlier in the season by the Lakers.
Didn't play well in the playoffs. Maddie Johnson came out
and said, Schroeder is not Laker material, lacks winning mentality
and attitude. Uh, he's taking a lot of the blame
from not playing well in the playoffs. He went scoreless
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in one game. Jack thoughts on Shrewder, his decision to
turn down eighty four million and where he and the
Lakers go from here. He's definitely regretting that. He's definitely
regretting that. I don't think he's gonna get the hundred
many million he's looking for for sure, not the Lakers.
And if anybody know who belongs in the Laker for
him is Magic Johnson. So you can't go against what
he says when it comes to that. But he has
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to find his niche somewhere. I mean, uh, he didn't
play well. You can't be a starting point guard on
the Lakers team in the playoffs with a d down
and go scoreless. I just don't know how that happens
when you play those minutes and you can't get a bucket,
you know what I mean. It's frustrating to a lot
of players that played the game that's watching the game,
especially when you get that opportunity when you know there's
other guys that can take advantage of the opportunity. So
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I wish him the best. Uh, he just put himself
in a tough situation right now, and I don't know
how it's gonna work out for I like Shrewder, you know,
talking to Chris paul a lot, Chris loved them, loved them,
and okay, see say he's one of the most competitive
players I ever played with. Love the opportunity as a teammate.
I think it kind of started as a snowball effect
once he turned down that money and said he wanted
a hundred. And we all know, I mean, playing in
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l A is so much more than actually playing basketball,
you know what I I mean? When the when? When? When? When? When?
The when the birds start chirping and the media starts,
you know, making a big deal of you turning things
down and then you you know, get hurt a little bit,
and then you don't play well. It's just a snowball
effective bullshit that can deter you from your actual job,
which is going out there and performing. So it'll be
interesting to see where he lands. Um. I still think
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he's a really good point guard. I think he's gonna
get paid money. I don't know if he'll get paid
eighty four million. Um, I definitely don't think he'll get
a hundred, but hey, you never know. But it'll be
interesting to see what happens with him. Um, if they
aren't able to work something out with him. I mean,
there's guys like Lowry out there, John Wall who's still
in a contract with Houston. What are your thoughts on
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those two potentially becoming Lakers? Either one of them I
love both of those guys, but for as far as fit,
I'm going Kyle Lowry. You've got a tough minded point
the tough minded point guard. He's a champion, he knows
what it takes. He's gonna run that team. He's gonna
do his job as a point guard. And he's a
knockdown shooter. Um. I think Lowry is a is a
great is a great addition for the Lakers going forward
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to add to that team. That's definitely what they need.
I like the Lowry idea jack, but he'll be thirty
six next season, and how old is this team gonna
be with a thirty seven year old Lebron a thirty
six year old Kyle Lowry being two of their main contributor.
That's the only thing that scares me. Like I said,
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his his his resume speaks for itself. One of the
toughest mind is point guards we've ever seen. He's a champion,
he's a winner, he's a leader. But do you risk
having a thirty six year old point guard when you're
gonna have a thirty seven year old Lebron James next
to him? Knowing how much they're gonna need both of
those guys to be ready to go during the playoffs,
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So it's gonna be interesting to see. I like Wall,
I don't think Wall is necessarily the fit they need. Um.
I love his bounce back season after being out of
basketball for two years to be able to come out
in average you know, nineteen and seven, I think he
was at He still owed a shipload of money too,
if I'm not mistaken. He still has two years ninety
million left on his contracts, so whether he ends up
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staying in Houston or not is yet to be determined.
But there's definitely some point guards out there. It's gonna
be interesting to see who the Lakers go after because
it has to be a unique type. Again, like I
said with Boston, does this team need a playmaking point
guard to take some pressure off a bron Do they
need a scoring point guard that they need a guard
they can do both? Um, Because I know that that
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window is closing over there in l A. You know,
I definitely think next year they're still gonna have a
great shot at winning a title, But after that, I'm
not sure. So this point guard decision this summer is
gonna be really big for the Lakers franchise moving forward.
Next up. Our favorite segment on the show than questions.
Let's get started. I call you when the worst thing
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a vet on the squad is made you do When
you were rookies, I was good man. My vest took
care of me. Step On Marbre gave me a range
over escalade and took me shopping. And I think what
saved me was I had Kenyan Martin as as my
other rookie on my team, and he was the number
one pick, and they can get him to pick up
water or nothing. He wasn't doing nothing because he was
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the number one pick, So it kind of saved me.
I was in a good position as a rookie. Man.
I'm glad I had stuff on my very I'm glad
I had guys like Johnny Newman and Sherman Douglas, got
good vets that just wanted me to learn the rope.
I don't really want to abuse me, right, uh. I
had a different situation. I went to a young Clipper team,
so our vets were young. They were the same age
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as me. I think Elton Brand was our vet, you
know what I mean, And he was only two years
older than me. So we had a real young team
with the ship Hole organization at the time. We used
to practice at Southwest College in the l A, which
is a junior college, and we have to used to
have to leave the back doors to the gym open
because people would break into our cars during practice. No shower,
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no weight room. Donald Sterling had motherfucking some bullshit over there.
But I didn't really have to do no rookie duties either.
Like I said, young team, cool team, energetic team. I
remember my first day on that team, no quick story.
I came up on a ten day. So my literally
my very first practice was Quentin Richardson and Key Undoley
got in a fight like right at the beginning, and
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you know, Quentin's big, motherfucking bare ass was trying to
then keep Katie was, you know, throwing jazz. This ship
was just I was like, Okay, this is what the
NBA is about, hun. So that was kind of like
my welcome to the NBA moment seeing two of my
teammates get into it. But besides that, I really didn't
have no uh no rookie duty, so I was glad.
Next fan question at Koku Puff, does the first round
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playoff loss almost feels more disappointing? Than not making the
playoffs at all. I mean, obviously, making the playoffs is
is a is a goal and accomplishment. But if you
go out in the first round, basically you just wasted
two more weeks. You could have been chilling. You know,
you could have your season could have ended two weeks earlier.
But now it's definitely not a disappointment. Um, if you
get swept um, that's another story. But making the playoffs
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obviously is every team's goal. Winning a championship as every
team's goal, So getting knocked out in the first round,
you know, it's something to build on, similar to what
the Knicks had this year they made the playoffs, or
something to build on. So it's definitely not a disappointment. Uh,
it's more frustrating than a disappointment. I totally agree with Mat.
It's more frustrating disappointment getting that experience. It's always something
to build on, building for the next year. You know,
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once you get in being like, okay, we made it
to the first round. Now to see if we can
get to the second round. So it's you got you
have to start somewhere. A lot of teams, which say
a lot of a lot of players go through their
career and never get a chance to taste the playoffs.
So anytime you can get in, there's always a blessing.
Next up, Richie underscore, if the Clippers lose to the Jazz,
it's a time to blow this thing up. It's definitely
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time to make changes, and it definitely time to figure
things out with Hard Kauai. That expectations are so high
that when Louising always makes you question yourself and um,
you know you have you have big men on the
team that that I would that I think should be playing.
You have a great roster, one of the deepest rosters
in the NBA, and that you expect to win any
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any time you have a team where you have great
players like Paul Georges Kauai side by side, you expect
big things and anything less. It's uncivilized. I don't think
it's time to blow up if you think about it,
to close this season, if they don't win. If they
do win, it's only been two years with this team,
and you know it takes three four years to really
build a team. I think in l A it's like
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dog years though. I mean everything is always the mast forward.
They want they want everything now, now, now and now.
Although I think they have a great chance to climb
out of this hole and come out of this series ahead,
I don't think it's time. Um. You know, sometimes it's
tough for a coach to have so much talent to
figure out who's supposed to play, win, and figure out
what the rotations are. I think that's something that t
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louis kind of trying to balance out now in the playoffs,
which is tough. You should kind of already have this set.
But he's been doing a good job I think of making,
you know, putting sitting people down, putting people in the game.
We both would like to see Big Book you play more.
He showed two great flashes in his brief minutes playing
in this series, so I wonder why he's not playing more.
But obviously they have their reasons. But to answer the question,
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it's only been two years, you know, and I don't
think anything should be blown off after two years. Obviously
high expectations with two superstars on your team, but all
it's more than superstar. It's chemistry and really understanding each other.
And now if this happens again next year, uh, you know,
if if they don't show improve next year. Then I
think it's really time to start thinking, Okay, do we
need to go a different direction. But whether they, you know,
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lose this series or they will come out of this series,
this team just needs time and and unfortunately, being in
l A, you don't have much of it. Next fan
question at Bacca Jr. Do the Signs have what it
takes to win it all this year? Matt at the
beginning of the playoffs, I would have said no, but
I say yeah. Now, um, you know, they're the hottest
team in the playoffs. They've they've taken the Lakers down,
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they swept the m v P. They're sitting resting, you know,
waiting for to see who they're gonna play the next round.
To me, it's wide open. It's very well. They're a
young team and outside of their two stars, they don't
have you know, eighting is an up and coming star,
they don't really have that firepower that people would think
you need to win a championship. But again, like I
said earlier in the show, it's about getting hot at
the right time, and this is the hottest team in
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the playoffs right now, with the best leader in the game,
and anything that's possible with this team, So I'm gonna
say yes. I'm gonna say yes, they have what it
takes to win the finals. I definitely think they have
what it takes, but I think also think it also
matters who they play. The Clippers are a team that
switch everything, so the pic a role won't be as
effective because the Clippers that as it will against Utah
any other team. So it depends on matchups to me.
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Next question, underscore E Carrillo underscore. Growing up, we all
have teams that we root for. How did the love
for that team change once you guys got to the league.
After and after you're retired, are there still teams you
solely root for? Are you guys just a fan of
the league as a hole? Now? Good question. I'm a
fan of players growing up. I grew up next to Houston,
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but I wasn't a Rockets fan. My favorite players with
Scottie pipp and Grand Hill, those type of guys, so
I really didn't have a team. I've always been a
fan of players and today I'm the same way. Even
with playing in the NBA. No team was loyal to me,
so I'm not giving them my lawd to either. So uh,
if I feel like I'm a part of any family
in the organization. I'm a Warrior for life. Uh, the
war is the only team that still treat me like family.
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The Warriors is the only team that continue to bring
us back and show they appreciate what we've done by
the time we was there. So even though I'm a
Warrior for life, I'm a fan of a lot of
players on different teams. Yeah, definitely shout out the Warriors.
Um My, I grew up a showtime Mattic Johnson Laker fans,
so I've always been a Laker fan. It was probably
one of the biggest honors of my life being able
to put that Laker uniform on. So my loyalty or
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who I cheer for are the Lakers, Clippers, and Warriors.
And then outside of that, I cheer for players. But
you know, each of those teams have a special place
in my heart. Um, you know, for for for what
I went through with them. But outside of that, you know,
I root for players. But those are the three teams
that that I root for, Uh, every season. Next fan question,
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the King Joe. If you guys gotta offered an assistant
coaching job in the NBA, would you guys take it
and what role would you play and if not, why
I would respectfully decline. Um, just that NBA grind and
travel is is behind me now, and that's as a
player at the end of my career was which was
the worst part about it was always having to travel
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and always having to be gone. Like I've been happy
with my retirement, uh, being able to spend more time
with my kids and really do stuff outside of basketball.
So although um, it could be a dream job for
some and a tremendous opportunity, UM, I'd pass. I'd rather
coach my kids in au and and spend more time
with them. I would love to Uh. I actually talked
to Mike Brown if you ever get a coaching job
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that I would love to actually talk to Sam pa
Cell and Chauncey Billips if they all I would love
to be assistant coach. I love the game. I love
to be around the game, and especially now, I think
I really might get the opportunity. The fact that I'm
smoking no more. I think me smoking in the way
I was doing things kept me away from getting a
coaching job or getting an opportunity to workout coaching job.
But I would love to Matt honestly would closing thoughts,
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We got a big matchup this weekend with undefeated former
All the Smoke guests w c BC middleweight Jamal Charlo.
Will be entering the ring on June tent in Houston, Texas. Jack,
you'll be at the fight, tells who will be fighting,
where you'll be sitting, and what you're gonna be wearing. Well,
hopefully I'll be there in the ring. I don't know
what I'm wearing yet, but he's fighting a hard hit
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and one m says my tail, and it's gonna be
a good fight. Man. Right there in Houston. I think
it's gonna be. This whole city is gonna come out.
I can't wait to see a lot of old friends.
But we gotta support our guy. He's been on the
show and you gotta check out the episode. We had
the Charlot brothers on here because it was straight comedy,
bro straight the way they talk ship and bounce off
each other, and it reminded me of my twins, always
at each other's next, always challenging that. I loved it.
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Great episode, by the way, We're definitely gonna be supporting.
I'll be out here in l a watching it from
the crib. And then also we got Javonte Davis uh
fighting in two weeks out in Atlanta, which will be
at two another all the Smoke Alum. So we've got
some good fights coming up the next two weeks. Make
sure you guys check these out. Showtime Boxing What's Burning
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is available every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube, and you
can catch us on Twitter and on Instagram at show Basketball.
See Yeo next week
Shooters, an unrestricted free agent this year, probably made one
of the most bonehead decisions in the history of the
league by turning down at eighty four million dollar extension.
Mattie Johnson came out and said, Schroeder is not Laker material.
I don't think he's gonna get the hundred many men,
and he's looking for for sure, not the Legers. And
if anybody know belongs in the Leger for him is magic. Johnson.
Welcome back to what's burning. We're in the midst of
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the playoffs. Jack. Let's start first with the Nets and Bucks.
The Bucks were able to tie it to two at home,
showing some life. Joannice Middleton, Holiday Tucker all had strong outings.
Big loss for the Nets. Kyrie Irving goes down with
the severely sprained ankle. Thoughts on game four and what
has to happen in game five? Uh, you know they
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I think they're doing a great job on Jhannese. He
only has three moves and they think they're starting to
figure it out. I think the biggest thing that I've
been taking away from the game is Militon Milton is
really coming to his own. You have a lot of
guys that's supposed to be stars that don't show up
in the in the postseason. Militon is really carrying his
team right now. He's making the big shots. He's making
the big plays. And also you gotta give p J.
Tucker credit but making it difficult for Katie. But going forward,
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the next have to get healthy, man, they have to
get healthy. Um, it's a series now. Kyleeminder is definitely
I'm pretty sure he's gonna be out next game. So
Katie really has to make it easy for himself. Stop
dribbling the ball to cork catch the Boston want to
post the area and save some energy, and because they're
definitely gonna need him to be at his best. Yeah,
I agree. I mean p J Tucker uh playing good
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d great? D Uh What I like that? I mean
they're letting Tucker really body up k D Like this
is reminds me of late nineties, early two thousands defense.
I mean, nowadays you can't really touch no one, but
you're seeing p J. Tucker really put his body and
be physical. Coach Nash spoke about it after a game,
calling some of the players not even basketball players. So
Tucker is definitely doing a good job. And trying to
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slow k D down. But one thing you can't count
on is Katie going nine for twenty five from the field. Again,
They're gonna have to make some adjustments. I mean, Katie
is really the only playmaker out there now, So how
does he get the rest of the guys involved and
still will score at a high level? Is what's gonna
be interesting. Um. Obviously, with Kyrie missing probably most likely
gonna miss game five, does that mean James Hardness gonna
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try to rush his progress. I mean, he can try
to rush it, or they can try to rush it,
but we all know hamstrings, man, hamstrings. You're not gonna
know if you can really go until you have to
make an instinctual decision or an instinctual reaction. You can
test it all you want, because all of those are
calculated moves, but you're not really gonna know until you're
in the game. Um, if you have it. So obviously,
this is everyone's favorite or our favorites to come out
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of the East and possibly contend for a title. But
if they're not healthy, uh, I mean, this is this
is a big opportunity for Milwaukee to to overcome them
and hopefully head to the Eastern Conference Final, So this
is gonna be interesting to watch the next series we
had East with the Hawks and Sixers. Philly regained home
court advantage by going into Atlanta and taking game three.
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Game four is tipping off shortly. Man In Beads, Simmons,
and Harris all delivered in Game three, and normally when
their bench plays well, it's always gonna be a good
sign for Philly. Um. I low key think Atlanta is
just out masters deep as they are. I think this
is a great valuable playoff experience, but I just think
Philly is too deep. Jack, what are your thoughts on
tonight's Game four and moving forward? Do you think Atlanta
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can push this to a six or seven game series?
I really don't. Man and beat it just too much.
And if he's if he's healthy and he's able to
do what he's been doing, he's gonna dominate the game.
He's gonna put his in print in the game and
make sure they win. Atlanta has to has to mix
the game up. They get like it's the old saying,
they gotta throw some ship in the game. Um, They're
gonna have to either hack Ben Simmons do a hacker.
Ben Simmons. It's something to try to take their momentum
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where you can't just let uh and be get the
ball every play and and and dominate the game. Harris
is playing well, Simmons is actually playing was also um.
But if they can kind of try to mix this
game up, make the game a little dirty, they have
a better chance of winning. But if they're just playing
basketball and let him be do what you want to do,
they're gonna be going home. Really, it's gonna be trouble.
Um notable Dan Danny Green's out two weeks with the
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calf strain. DeAndre Hunter is out for the Hawks. I
think it's important. I was Atlanta has a home game
tonight if they can win this game and and maybe
push it to six. But if they lose tonight, I
see Philly closing it out in Philly next game and
onto the Eastern Conference finals for the seventy sixers. So
we'll have to pay attention to see how that goes
headed out West, big matchup tonight between the Clippers and Jazz.
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Game five will be on Wednesday. Paul George stepped up
big and answered the call by leading the Clippers last game.
Him and Kauai were incredible. Found out. Serge Ibaka has
had sending season engine back surgery. Uh. The Clippers used
that small ball formula to to mess the game up
though some ship in the game, as they did with Dallas,
and it worked well for them versus Utah. Jack thoughts
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on Game three, Game four tonight and moving forward what
you see in this series, Well, Paul and Kauai have
to be dominant. Um if they're not gonna use Buggie
and let Bussy Tech Boogie take go Bart out the game,
paula gonna have to be dominant like there was last game.
A lot of people put a lot of pressure on
on Paul, me myself as well, because I know what
he can do and I know what he means to
that team. But if they be that one two points,
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they could definitely gonna be hard to beat. I think
the question about this series is who's gonna be good
enough to win the game on the road. Both of
these seems struggle on the road in the playoffs. What
team is gonna be that team to get a win
on the road, And I think that's gonna tell the
tell of the series. Donovan Mitchell has came out the
gate strong man averaging thirty seven UM through the first
three games, went down with that right ankle injury and
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didn't return. Possibly could have returned, but the game was
kind of out of hand, so I think coach Snyder
kept him on the sideline. Jordan Clarks has been playing
his ass off at about nineteen points a game, hit
six threes in Game one, end Game two. Bob Donovich,
Ingles Gobert, all doing what they're supposed to do. I'm
impressed what this team has been able to do without
their starting all star point guarding Mike Conley. Yeah. I think.
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I think the good thing about it is they they're
excited about having Connley back, but Jackson has been playing
well on the other side, so um, I think they're
gonna even each other out. Jackson has really stepped up
for the Clippers, man, and he's been hit some big
shots for them too, so it's gonna be good to
see that matchup. I think Tyler made a great adjustment
by finally taking the handcuffs off Jackson. He's beginning he
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was getting he was getting pulled in and out all season.
They were going with Pat Bev as a starting guard,
and then Pat BEV went down towards the end of
the season and gave Jackson really a chance to show
how good he I mean, we all know how talents
he is, but he's definitely been playing his ass off.
Probably the unsung hero for that Clipper team this round.
Man been hitting big shots, making big plays, keeping the
team fired up. This is gonna be an interesting series.
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I mean, you know, Clippers went down oh two last
last series, and we're able to get Dallas in seven tonight.
They got a chance to even up the series at
two to two. Could they possibly be I think they'd
be the first team in NBA history to go down
oh two in the first two rounds and win both series.
But you know, with all the injuries happening, I mean,
to me, this playoff is wide open now. Obviously, we
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thought the Lakers were gonna be the favorite in the West,
they got hurt. We thought that Nets were gonna be
the favorite in the East. Now they're hurt. I think
this opens a door for everybody, whether it's Phoenix, Utah,
the Clippers out West Milwaukee, Philly. I mean, there's no
clear cut favorite this year, and I think that's the
first time in a while we haven't had a clear
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cut favorite man, so these playoffs have been great. Hopefully
everyone can stay healthy so we can see the best
of these teams. But we all know injuries are a
part of the game. It takes a lot of luck
to get through this ship and we're gonna see who finishes, uh,
you know, finishes on their feet on the radar presented
to you by Draft Kings. Sons were able to sweep
the Nuggets last night, improving their odds to plus one
thirty five to win the West. The Jazz red plus
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one twenty. The Clippers are at plus three twenty. CB
three lad the Suns last night, with obviously a lot
of help from Deva Booker. In the closeout game, CP
had thirty seven, book had thirty four. They're able to
now rest up and get some more time for Chris's
shoulder to heal. Uh. The Sons are very impressive and
I think we definitely owe them some respect. I mean,
you're lying. Whoever says they saw the Suns in the
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Western Conference final at the beginning of playoffs are lying.
Although we're huge fans of CP three, the odds were
just stacked against him, but he's been able to overcome
that shoulder injury and leave these guys to the Western
Conference Finals. And I couldn't be happier for this team, Jack,
what are your thoughts on them and him and Book
and the rest of the Phoenix Suns. Well, I remember
texting CP three probably a month ago that he was
my m v p um and he definitely played like
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last night. Him and Book of definitely a two headed
monster that's kind of looking unstoppable right now. Um. I
love the way they're playing. I love the way they
went there and dominated, and uh and and and and
made they claim for a team that's that's to be
reckoned with in the Western Conference. Obviously, I don't have
them win in the Western Conference. If the Clippers can
make it out, I see the Clippers who are making
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out this series. I see the Clippers winning it. But
I would love to see these two teams go ahead
to here in the West Conference finals. Now I agree.
I mean, and what I like about the Sun so
obviously the story the journey of coach williams Uh you
know him and Chris being so close, but the way
they've been able to get everyone else outside of their
two superstars to play well. Aton's been playing well, Crowder
has been playing well. All the young kids off the
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bench are playing like they've done this before. You know,
this is a lot of their first time in the playoffs,
and these guys that have not been shined by the lights,
they continuing to play hard and they're playing the best
basketball in the playoffs right now. So for me to
continue to go against them, I don't know if I'm
gonna do that. I'm gonna wait and see who comes
out of this Utah and the Clipper series. But right now,
you know, Phoenix is hot, man. And we all know
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it's not always who the best team is, is who's
the who's playing the best at the right time, And
the Phoenix Suns are definitely playing the best at the
right time. You remember in the bubble last year they
won eighth straight. Um, I think there's seven and one
in the playoffs or eight and one in the playoffs now,
So playing really good basketball and looking forward to what
they're able to do in the in the Western Conference Finals. Again,
shout out to our man CP three. Some argue should
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have been the m v P. I was definitely on
that bandwagon, but hey, is what it is. But the
best of luck for them moving forward. Had a great
opportunity man to sit down with my man Phil Handy,
who's been collecting rings the past few years, one of
the best basketball minds in the game. His episode drops
this Thursday, June. Enjoy this teaser. I have a like
(09:58):
a real deep appreciation and for the journey that I've
been on because of because of how I became a
coach in the NBA. You know, Mike Brown obviously gave
me an opportunity. I wasn't a dude that was you know,
had a long NBA career. I mean, I had a
long basketball career and played overseas. But I've always had
this thing of for me personally, man, I just I
want to compete to win. That's just it's in me.
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And you know that it doesn't always work out like
that everybody does. But I got to the Lakers. You know, again,
I was obviously at the end of Kobe's career going
going into it. You know, we had our struggles with
that team. But when I went to Cleveland, Mike got
fired and he asked me to come to Cleveland. One
of the things he said to me was one we
want you to mentor Kyrie to that there's a chance
of le Bron might come back to Cleveland, who knows.
(10:40):
So I went to Cleveland my first year. We were terrible.
Dog shit, We're just young team trying to figure it out.
And Bron came back the next year and we went
through that season, ups and downs. You know, kay Love
was getting in the ready whole career, and we ended
up making to the finals. Once we got there. For
me now like walking into an oracle going back home
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from So that first opportunity was just like, man, this
is crazy. And when we got there, all I kept
saying to myself was, man, there's nothing else. There's no
other feeling that you want. Now, look, it's not guaranteed,
but I've always wanted to put myself in a position
and where every year I want to be part of
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a team that's trying to compete for a championship. That's
my mindset, competitor in man. People, you know, some people
say you'ring chasing. What do you call it? Whatever you want?
I want to win. I'm not in this for money
or you know what. I'm I'm a purious to the
game of basketball. So what opportunities can I put myself
in to where we can compete for a championship. And
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you know, went through that run in Cleveland kind of
like I went through a spell where my time in
Cleveland kind of came to a you know, it came
to an end. I was there for five years and
then it was like what's next. So, you know, I
knew bron was was leaving out of the East and
Toronto had been a team that we have been competing against,
you know, for years in the playoffs, and I always
kind of felt like the only reason why they couldn't
make that hump was because Bron was just every year
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and they did to run into him at some point
in our teams. So when the whole thing shifted, you know,
I played for Nick Nurse in Europe, so Nick became
the head coach and I looked at Toronto said, man,
they have a team that can compete. And this was
before Kauai. I looked at the mar I loved this game.
I love Kyle Lowry, I love some of the young
players that they had, and I said, man, shoot, it's
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the East is wide open. There's a chance there. So
when the opportunity presented itself, I said, I'm going to Toronto.
You know, Nick wanted me on the staff man. Two
days after I signed my contract and agreed to terms,
I woke up ESPN Troynto Raptors have traded Martin Rosen
for kau Bro. I was like, come on man, Like
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you said, man, I'm like, I'm like, come on man again,
just utmost respect for tomorrow because he's a he's a cooper,
competitive and you know, I didn't know why. But when
he came to came to Toronto and saw that he
was healthy, I was like, look, man, we gotta we
got a real chance, Bro, you have a real chance.
And so that year went the way it went. You know,
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I have a seven year old son who lives here
in l A. You know, Brian. Me and Brian always
kept in touch. So it just it worked out for
me to come back to l A and we go
back to the finals again. I couldn't I couldn't write
this story. You know. The only thing I can do
is one be grateful, you know, because like you said,
it's not guaranteed. I have a lot of respect for
a lot of coaches that are coaching the league for
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thirty years. Some have never been to the finals. Some
of the never been to a conference finals. So I
don't look at this journey and say it's been a
cake walk. You know, I'm just looking at Sam and
I keep my head down every day, keep grinding and
keep working and just try to try to put yourself
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some big time point guards potentially changing cities this summer.
Let's start with Kimba Walker, who showed his displeasure as
the Celtics tried to shop him. He's owed seventy million
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over the next two years. Someone who found himself in Charlotte,
missed six games and four seasons there, has missed forty
five games in the last two seasons. With Boston, He's
owed a lot of money. High profile point guards haven't
worked there in the past couple of years. Obviously that
the Kyrie experiment didn't work. This doesn't look like it's working.
What are your thoughts with Kimba's decision and uh him
(15:01):
moving forward? Uh, He's a great player. Definitely is some
guard that can help in the organization. I just don't
know where Matt uh. He had a great opportunity in Charlotte,
was an All Star, was the leader of that team,
was a Jordan Baskett. Everything was looking good for him
in Charlotte. That didn't work. You get to Boston, you
have two of the greatest young stars in the game
right now, and that's not being able to work. So
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I really don't know what's the fifth form of what's
going on. Obviously, UM, I think he wants a bigger role,
But at the same time, you have to look in
the mirror and know who you are. You're not that
big of a guard, You're not the greatest defender at
point guard. So I just think um, he has a
way as obviously to see what's best for him. But
if you can make it work in Boston, I think
you should because I think that's his best bet at
winning and being able to to look good from stuff
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with those two young stars with him. See, I don't
know if, if if Boston needs a scoring point guard,
I think they need more of a playmaker. Obviously, you know,
a Rondo type, not a Rondo Rondo. You know Rondo's
on the back stide of his career. But when you
have two point scoring a night wings, I don't know
if you need a twenty point a night scoring point guard.
I think you need more of a playmaker, decision maker,
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guys that can settle down, get them into offense, get
them into something. So I'm not really sure that Kimba
is a great fit there. And the biggest thing is
he he hasn't been able to stay healthy. You know,
he's had the knee issues in Boston. When he's played well,
the team has been well. But he's been in and
out so much the past two Season's kind of hard
to get a real good measure on what he what
what those three stars can do. So it'll be interesting
to see what happens is offseason. He still owed a
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lot of money over the next two seasons, and like
you said, he's not the biggest guy and he's not
as durable as they used to be. So it'll be
interesting to see um if he's able to stay or
you know, the the Celtics make a move with him.
So we'll have to stand by and check that out.
Next up, who should the Lakers target to replay Shrewder.
Shredder is an unrestricted free agent this year, probably maybe
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one of the most bonehead decisions in the history of
the league, by turning down an eighty four million dollar
extension offered to him earlier in the season by the Lakers.
Didn't play well in the playoffs. Maddie Johnson came out
and said, Schroeder is not Laker material, lacks winning mentality
and attitude. Uh, he's taking a lot of the blame
from not playing well in the playoffs. He went scoreless
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in one game. Jack thoughts on Shrewder, his decision to
turn down eighty four million and where he and the
Lakers go from here. He's definitely regretting that. He's definitely
regretting that. I don't think he's gonna get the hundred
many million he's looking for for sure, not the Lakers.
And if anybody know who belongs in the Laker for
him is Magic Johnson. So you can't go against what
he says when it comes to that. But he has
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to find his niche somewhere. I mean, uh, he didn't
play well. You can't be a starting point guard on
the Lakers team in the playoffs with a d down
and go scoreless. I just don't know how that happens
when you play those minutes and you can't get a bucket,
you know what I mean. It's frustrating to a lot
of players that played the game that's watching the game,
especially when you get that opportunity when you know there's
other guys that can take advantage of the opportunity. So
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I wish him the best. Uh, he just put himself
in a tough situation right now, and I don't know
how it's gonna work out for I like Shrewder, you know,
talking to Chris paul a lot, Chris loved them, loved them,
and okay, see say he's one of the most competitive
players I ever played with. Love the opportunity as a teammate.
I think it kind of started as a snowball effect
once he turned down that money and said he wanted
a hundred. And we all know, I mean, playing in
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l A is so much more than actually playing basketball,
you know what I I mean? When the when? When? When? When? When?
The when the birds start chirping and the media starts,
you know, making a big deal of you turning things
down and then you you know, get hurt a little bit,
and then you don't play well. It's just a snowball
effective bullshit that can deter you from your actual job,
which is going out there and performing. So it'll be
interesting to see where he lands. Um. I still think
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he's a really good point guard. I think he's gonna
get paid money. I don't know if he'll get paid
eighty four million. Um, I definitely don't think he'll get
a hundred, but hey, you never know. But it'll be
interesting to see what happens with him. Um, if they
aren't able to work something out with him. I mean,
there's guys like Lowry out there, John Wall who's still
in a contract with Houston. What are your thoughts on
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those two potentially becoming Lakers? Either one of them I
love both of those guys, but for as far as fit,
I'm going Kyle Lowry. You've got a tough minded point
the tough minded point guard. He's a champion, he knows
what it takes. He's gonna run that team. He's gonna
do his job as a point guard. And he's a
knockdown shooter. Um. I think Lowry is a is a
great is a great addition for the Lakers going forward
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to add to that team. That's definitely what they need.
I like the Lowry idea jack, but he'll be thirty
six next season, and how old is this team gonna
be with a thirty seven year old Lebron a thirty
six year old Kyle Lowry being two of their main contributor.
That's the only thing that scares me. Like I said,
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his his his resume speaks for itself. One of the
toughest mind is point guards we've ever seen. He's a champion,
he's a winner, he's a leader. But do you risk
having a thirty six year old point guard when you're
gonna have a thirty seven year old Lebron James next
to him? Knowing how much they're gonna need both of
those guys to be ready to go during the playoffs,
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So it's gonna be interesting to see. I like Wall,
I don't think Wall is necessarily the fit they need. Um.
I love his bounce back season after being out of
basketball for two years to be able to come out
in average you know, nineteen and seven, I think he
was at He still owed a shipload of money too,
if I'm not mistaken. He still has two years ninety
million left on his contracts, so whether he ends up
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staying in Houston or not is yet to be determined.
But there's definitely some point guards out there. It's gonna
be interesting to see who the Lakers go after because
it has to be a unique type. Again, like I
said with Boston, does this team need a playmaking point
guard to take some pressure off a bron Do they
need a scoring point guard that they need a guard
they can do both? Um, Because I know that that
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window is closing over there in l A. You know,
I definitely think next year they're still gonna have a
great shot at winning a title, But after that, I'm
not sure. So this point guard decision this summer is
gonna be really big for the Lakers franchise moving forward.
Next up. Our favorite segment on the show than questions.
Let's get started. I call you when the worst thing
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a vet on the squad is made you do When
you were rookies, I was good man. My vest took
care of me. Step On Marbre gave me a range
over escalade and took me shopping. And I think what
saved me was I had Kenyan Martin as as my
other rookie on my team, and he was the number
one pick, and they can get him to pick up
water or nothing. He wasn't doing nothing because he was
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the number one pick, So it kind of saved me.
I was in a good position as a rookie. Man.
I'm glad I had stuff on my very I'm glad
I had guys like Johnny Newman and Sherman Douglas, got
good vets that just wanted me to learn the rope.
I don't really want to abuse me, right, uh. I
had a different situation. I went to a young Clipper team,
so our vets were young. They were the same age
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as me. I think Elton Brand was our vet, you
know what I mean, And he was only two years
older than me. So we had a real young team
with the ship Hole organization at the time. We used
to practice at Southwest College in the l A, which
is a junior college, and we have to used to
have to leave the back doors to the gym open
because people would break into our cars during practice. No shower,
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no weight room. Donald Sterling had motherfucking some bullshit over there.
But I didn't really have to do no rookie duties either.
Like I said, young team, cool team, energetic team. I
remember my first day on that team, no quick story.
I came up on a ten day. So my literally
my very first practice was Quentin Richardson and Key Undoley
got in a fight like right at the beginning, and
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you know, Quentin's big, motherfucking bare ass was trying to
then keep Katie was, you know, throwing jazz. This ship
was just I was like, Okay, this is what the
NBA is about, hun. So that was kind of like
my welcome to the NBA moment seeing two of my
teammates get into it. But besides that, I really didn't
have no uh no rookie duty, so I was glad.
Next fan question at Koku Puff, does the first round
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playoff loss almost feels more disappointing? Than not making the
playoffs at all. I mean, obviously, making the playoffs is
is a is a goal and accomplishment. But if you
go out in the first round, basically you just wasted
two more weeks. You could have been chilling. You know,
you could have your season could have ended two weeks earlier.
But now it's definitely not a disappointment. Um, if you
get swept um, that's another story. But making the playoffs
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obviously is every team's goal. Winning a championship as every
team's goal, So getting knocked out in the first round,
you know, it's something to build on, similar to what
the Knicks had this year they made the playoffs, or
something to build on. So it's definitely not a disappointment. Uh,
it's more frustrating than a disappointment. I totally agree with Mat.
It's more frustrating disappointment getting that experience. It's always something
to build on, building for the next year. You know,
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once you get in being like, okay, we made it
to the first round. Now to see if we can
get to the second round. So it's you got you
have to start somewhere. A lot of teams, which say
a lot of a lot of players go through their
career and never get a chance to taste the playoffs.
So anytime you can get in, there's always a blessing.
Next up, Richie underscore, if the Clippers lose to the Jazz,
it's a time to blow this thing up. It's definitely
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time to make changes, and it definitely time to figure
things out with Hard Kauai. That expectations are so high
that when Louising always makes you question yourself and um,
you know you have you have big men on the
team that that I would that I think should be playing.
You have a great roster, one of the deepest rosters
in the NBA, and that you expect to win any
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any time you have a team where you have great
players like Paul Georges Kauai side by side, you expect
big things and anything less. It's uncivilized. I don't think
it's time to blow up if you think about it,
to close this season, if they don't win. If they
do win, it's only been two years with this team,
and you know it takes three four years to really
build a team. I think in l A it's like
(24:36):
dog years though. I mean everything is always the mast forward.
They want they want everything now, now, now and now.
Although I think they have a great chance to climb
out of this hole and come out of this series ahead,
I don't think it's time. Um. You know, sometimes it's
tough for a coach to have so much talent to
figure out who's supposed to play, win, and figure out
what the rotations are. I think that's something that t
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louis kind of trying to balance out now in the playoffs,
which is tough. You should kind of already have this set.
But he's been doing a good job I think of making,
you know, putting sitting people down, putting people in the game.
We both would like to see Big Book you play more.
He showed two great flashes in his brief minutes playing
in this series, so I wonder why he's not playing more.
But obviously they have their reasons. But to answer the question,
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it's only been two years, you know, and I don't
think anything should be blown off after two years. Obviously
high expectations with two superstars on your team, but all
it's more than superstar. It's chemistry and really understanding each other.
And now if this happens again next year, uh, you know,
if if they don't show improve next year. Then I
think it's really time to start thinking, Okay, do we
need to go a different direction. But whether they, you know,
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lose this series or they will come out of this series,
this team just needs time and and unfortunately, being in
l A, you don't have much of it. Next fan
question at Bacca Jr. Do the Signs have what it
takes to win it all this year? Matt at the
beginning of the playoffs, I would have said no, but
I say yeah. Now, um, you know, they're the hottest
team in the playoffs. They've they've taken the Lakers down,
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they swept the m v P. They're sitting resting, you know,
waiting for to see who they're gonna play the next round.
To me, it's wide open. It's very well. They're a
young team and outside of their two stars, they don't
have you know, eighting is an up and coming star,
they don't really have that firepower that people would think
you need to win a championship. But again, like I
said earlier in the show, it's about getting hot at
the right time, and this is the hottest team in
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the playoffs right now, with the best leader in the game,
and anything that's possible with this team, So I'm gonna
say yes. I'm gonna say yes, they have what it
takes to win the finals. I definitely think they have
what it takes, but I think also think it also
matters who they play. The Clippers are a team that
switch everything, so the pic a role won't be as
effective because the Clippers that as it will against Utah
any other team. So it depends on matchups to me.
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Next question, underscore E Carrillo underscore. Growing up, we all
have teams that we root for. How did the love
for that team change once you guys got to the league.
After and after you're retired, are there still teams you
solely root for? Are you guys just a fan of
the league as a hole? Now? Good question. I'm a
fan of players growing up. I grew up next to Houston,
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but I wasn't a Rockets fan. My favorite players with
Scottie pipp and Grand Hill, those type of guys, so
I really didn't have a team. I've always been a
fan of players and today I'm the same way. Even
with playing in the NBA. No team was loyal to me,
so I'm not giving them my lawd to either. So uh,
if I feel like I'm a part of any family
in the organization. I'm a Warrior for life. Uh, the
war is the only team that still treat me like family.
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The Warriors is the only team that continue to bring
us back and show they appreciate what we've done by
the time we was there. So even though I'm a
Warrior for life, I'm a fan of a lot of
players on different teams. Yeah, definitely shout out the Warriors.
Um My, I grew up a showtime Mattic Johnson Laker fans,
so I've always been a Laker fan. It was probably
one of the biggest honors of my life being able
to put that Laker uniform on. So my loyalty or
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who I cheer for are the Lakers, Clippers, and Warriors.
And then outside of that, I cheer for players. But
you know, each of those teams have a special place
in my heart. Um, you know, for for for what
I went through with them. But outside of that, you know,
I root for players. But those are the three teams
that that I root for, Uh, every season. Next fan question,
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the King Joe. If you guys gotta offered an assistant
coaching job in the NBA, would you guys take it
and what role would you play and if not, why
I would respectfully decline. Um, just that NBA grind and
travel is is behind me now, and that's as a
player at the end of my career was which was
the worst part about it was always having to travel
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and always having to be gone. Like I've been happy
with my retirement, uh, being able to spend more time
with my kids and really do stuff outside of basketball.
So although um, it could be a dream job for
some and a tremendous opportunity, UM, I'd pass. I'd rather
coach my kids in au and and spend more time
with them. I would love to Uh. I actually talked
to Mike Brown if you ever get a coaching job
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that I would love to actually talk to Sam pa
Cell and Chauncey Billips if they all I would love
to be assistant coach. I love the game. I love
to be around the game, and especially now, I think
I really might get the opportunity. The fact that I'm
smoking no more. I think me smoking in the way
I was doing things kept me away from getting a
coaching job or getting an opportunity to workout coaching job.
But I would love to Matt honestly would closing thoughts,
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We got a big matchup this weekend with undefeated former
All the Smoke guests w c BC middleweight Jamal Charlo.
Will be entering the ring on June tent in Houston, Texas. Jack,
you'll be at the fight, tells who will be fighting,
where you'll be sitting, and what you're gonna be wearing. Well,
hopefully I'll be there in the ring. I don't know
what I'm wearing yet, but he's fighting a hard hit
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and one m says my tail, and it's gonna be
a good fight. Man. Right there in Houston. I think
it's gonna be. This whole city is gonna come out.
I can't wait to see a lot of old friends.
But we gotta support our guy. He's been on the
show and you gotta check out the episode. We had
the Charlot brothers on here because it was straight comedy,
bro straight the way they talk ship and bounce off
each other, and it reminded me of my twins, always
at each other's next, always challenging that. I loved it.
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Great episode, by the way, We're definitely gonna be supporting.
I'll be out here in l a watching it from
the crib. And then also we got Javonte Davis uh
fighting in two weeks out in Atlanta, which will be
at two another all the Smoke Alum. So we've got
some good fights coming up the next two weeks. Make
sure you guys check these out. Showtime Boxing What's Burning
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is available every week on Showtime Basketball YouTube, and you
can catch us on Twitter and on Instagram at show Basketball.
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