May 4, 2020 • 40 mins
All The Smoke is back for episode 33 with Atlanta Hawks star point guard Trae Young joining Matt and Stephen. Young describes his college experience at Oklahoma, the draft night swap with Luka Doncic, and talks about being compared to Steph Curry. He also tells his story of meeting Kobe and looks back at some other greats, including teammate Vince Carter.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
From my high school team. We have five guys make
the NBA. We had a County rock gets some mecca
of basketball. There are those who come before us, upon
whose shoulders we stand. It's nothing that you can do
to stop that competitive and it's just in the water.
(00:30):
Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a
real special guys. What's up with your brode with the
virtual handshake. I'm gonna tell ya something that I never
told no about it. I want to smoke. Welcome back
to a special Quarantine edition of all the smoke. I'm
out here in l a big smoking jack. What you
want break dancing, working on my TikTok moves shout. Our
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next guest knows all about that TikTok game man and
him his little brother be on there all the time.
But man, this is fun. Man. I'm excited. Man, this
is to me, the best young players in the game.
Excited to watch him. My love is enthusiasm. He plays
with motherfucker's He makes fools out of people. People be
getting mad. The nutmeger I probably would have got mad too,
Not even gonna lie. But anyway, man, one of the
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best young talents in the game, Trey welcome, Pray. What's
up y'all? Welcome to the show, little bro. I appreciate
y'all having it's been been too long, man, I appreciate
you taking some time with us. So how how's everything?
So we just I asked you of. So you're back
at home with in Oklahoma right now with the fam. Yeah, yes,
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I'm back home. I came back here as soon as
they led us, to be honest. The only reason why
it is because obviously I'm we're at home. But this
my house here is the only one that has a
basketball goal out front, So yeah, get some stuff in well.
Speaking of the basketball goal, you played in the NBA's
horse competition. Yeah, yeah, it didn't. It didn't work out
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well for me. I don't understand how they did the
seeding and how they messed me up with A with A,
I mean Hall of Famer with ny uh. He can
still play, still shoot, he's still being pick up runs
and big shot for life. That jumper don't go nowhere
for big shot. I didn't like it, man, I didn't
like it. I think hard Horst has to be played
in person, you know what I mean. I think that's
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how you get that, you know, what I mean you
and I kind of felt like I'm gonna be honest
with you. Know I'm a real with Tray. I kind
of feel like you took it easy on big Shot.
I ain't gonna lie. I think I didn't take it
as serious as I probably should have. I got I
got a lot of love for he's helped me help ye.
But maybe that's a littlettle bit, Maybe that's a lot
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of little uh reason why you want talk to us
a little bit about you are very involved, but I
love about you as You're very engaging, you know what
I mean. And I think we've seen more NBA players
that particularly be more engaging obviously over this quarantine. But
so you've got a little brother, and you guys are
tiktoking all over the place, and you're very heavy into
the social media game. Talk to us a little bit
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about that and how you enjoy that. Yeah, yeah, no, So,
I mean me and my brother had definitely been um
making a lot of TikTok's. Like I told you off air,
I don't I don't be dancing like that. So this
is the time that I'm just trying to experience new things,
be around my family, be around I mean my close people.
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As much as I can learn new things and learn
how to cook different thing. How its cooking going. I
mean I'll try like one or two things. They haven't
went well. So I got some more time to practice stuff.
I got some more time. Thank god, Hey, thank god,
you're rich. You gonna have people cooking that ship for
you. You You got met mom and dad. He's good. He
got mom and dad. He's good. Yeah. Yeah. Why do
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you feel it's important to engage with the fans. I
think it's very important. Um. I think it's I mean,
obviously we're trying to continue to grow the game game,
and for me, I feel like, um, I mean, the
more I continue to get better and produced and make plays.
I mean my, I mean, the more people following me,
the more people that are looking up to me. I
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think it's for me to use my platform in the
right way to to stay involved with the fans and
make sure they're still loving the game of basketball the
way I do. Um. So, I think it's just like
a responsibility for me to be honest with you, just
to make sure everybody's still engaged. Even even even when
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basketball is back, players and fans gonna have to be
you know, kind of separated. What's your thoughts on that
that's gonna be. That's gonna be different. I mean it's
gonna be Uh, it's gonna be obviously something that a
lot of the players have never experienced before. UM, a
lot of fans I've never experienced before. So it's gonna
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be different. Um, But I know, I mean, we have
I mean, one other's not the best commissioners in in
the world, UM, and he's gonna make make sure that
we're all doing it the right way, make sure everybody's safe. Obviously,
we all want to have fans in the buildings. But
if it's not the safest thing to to do, Um,
I think it's the right thing. And I know, I mean,
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I'm still gonna do the best best thing for us.
Have you heard anything being a player about possible return.
We're here in a possible twenty five day training camp.
We're hearing some stuff happening in Vegas. Um, as a player,
how closely do you follow that and do you have
any kind of update on what's going on? Yeah, yeah,
I'm following it closely. Um. Obviously, I'm I'm kind of
just in the same boat as everybody else. I'm trying
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to wait, wait, and see, just like everybody else is. Um.
I mean, obviously I want to return back as soon
as possible. I know, uh, I hear all the rumors
and different things and that that involved is coming back early,
but with the twenty five day thing. But now I'm
still I'm still just in the I don't know stays.
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Like a lot of people, uh, like a lot of
people are right out. Yeah do you do. Do you
feel the NBA handled did the right way? I think so.
I think so, Um, this is a crazy time. Uh.
I don't necessarily know how to put it in their words, like, uh,
I think they've never none none of us have ever
been through something like this, so it's hard to put
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it in words. We've never been through nothing like this. Yeah, nas, yeah,
So I mean, like you said, it's it's a it's
a different time. So I think I think the NBA
handled it, I mean the best they could, the best
that they thought they could. I don't think there's a
right or wrong answer to the way where he did happened.
This is the first time this has happened, so and
I think for it to happen, I think we handled
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the right way, and I think too. I mean, I
think we've discussed it with other guys. I think people
started taking it serious after the NBA did cancel the
season because knowing how much money that I was gonna
cost them and the sacrifices this league would make to
cancel it. I think I know personally, like when they
said ship the NBA season is canceled. That's when I'm
just like, Okay, well this is really real. And you
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saw it's kind of a domino effect of kind of
almost the world shutting down post the NBA. Like I'm
not saying it all happened because the NBA, but it possibly.
It definitely started knocking the dominoes down once they announced
the season was gonna be postponed. Yeah, no, it's Uh.
The NBA is a I mean the big one of
the biggest platforms and uh once once we ended our
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seat and felt like it's just a trickle down to
tech to everything else, like you said, and um, yeah,
I think we had it the right way, and I
think we all want sports back, but we need we
need to make sure it comes back the right way.
Everybody's safe. Let's jump to your college career. You were
one and done at Oklahoma moved a lot of heads,
turned a lot of eyes, you know, dubbed does the
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possible next steph Curry. But you're looking at yourself as obviously,
Trey Young. Talk to us about your one and done
experience because even today, which we'll get to, that landscape
of college basketball starting to change. But how fun or
what was your college experience like for you? I had
a great college expense fun. I got to stay home.
It came down to the two blue bloods Kentucky, Kansas
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and Oklahoma. I decided to stay home playing in front
of my friends, my family, to be able to have
them come to all my games. It was great, It
was fun, kind of hectic. It was a hectic year.
It was Baker Mayfield's last year in college, so he
was obviously the man on campus that first half and
then that second half. I mean, it was basketball season
and it was kind of it was trade. It was
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trade tongue. It was two different worlds. It was fun,
it was a great, great experience, and uh, I was
blessed to be able to stay home and play playing
Norman Oklahoma. Yeah. See, we have two different kind of
outlooks on this because I was talking to some people
earlier today because obviously Dreven Green announced that he's gonna
forego college and go right to the G League. So
they said he's gonna get make up towards of five
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K plus, uh, get a scholarship for a hundred twenty
five thousand to go to college that he wants to
to go, uh further his education, and then also outside
NB what I think is NBA training outside of the
G League, So it's all most like college. You know,
Jack and I were talking before. They should have been
on this ship earlier. They should have been playing players
for what they're worth. Because now with this move that
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that this young boy made, this could possibly forever change
the landscape of how kids look at college. Kids are
gonna like they finally found a way to jump. You're
trying to tell me I can get paid at half
a million dollars, possibly get a shoe deal. They're gonna
pay for my school a later time, and they're gonna
pay for my training. Like what kid is not gonna
take that? And I think that's the n C double
A's faut because they've been bullshitting and dragging their feet
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for so long. No, no, I mean, to be honest, Matt,
I agree with I mean everything you said. I think
this is it's all about to change, and it sucks.
It sucks for me because I know how much college
basketball did for me, Um, how much of that that
that stage and playing on ESPN every day, putting on
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the show every game, how much that did for me
and my draft status and going top five. And I
know I want to help me, but also see white
kids like I mean Jalen uh and many more kids
I mean the mellow ball, Like, how many more kids
are about to start doing this going straight to the
uh I mean G League or taking the overseas route
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rather than going to n C A A and sitting
out a year uh, basically missing out a money, especially
with that likeness, and they're gonna be bringing that school
with so much money, um and not getting anything back
from it. I mean, I see how this it's going
to change. Yeah. That's interestingly because we were, like I said,
I was talking about this earlier. I have a U
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c L A group chat with guys that I went
to college with. Shouldn't never you know, fifteen twenty years
ago we were talking about how fun college was. You
know what I mean like that was kind of like
our chat chance to kind of be adults but not
necessarily have adult responsibilities. And outside of having kids, there was,
you know, some of the funniest times in my life.
So kids won't get to experience that from a standpoint.
But today the game is more about the business. It's
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the business of basketball. Back then it is just pure
college although guys were getting paid, we're still doing our thing,
but it was the pureness of it. You know. Now
it's about question if you have this opportunity. Now, if
you were coming, you know, the top high school player,
would you have still gone to Oklahoma for a year
or would you have taken possibly another money route. Uh,
it's it was a different situation for me. I was
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in that kind of middle middle tier pack. I was.
I mean I was as American, but I was. I
mean they had me fourth fifth at my position, had
me going into school three maybe four years. Um. And
for me, it's it's just the people that it's hard
to to really base what I would have done. Um,
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I think I needed college just to really show people.
I needed to show people that with that platform that I, uh,
the college basketball brings. I think for me, that's that's
what helped me become a top five pick. And so
for me in my my situation was totally different. So
but I can see why guy like Michael Porter would
have would have sat out, I mean a year and
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went straight to the G League and got more help
on his back or whatever, just just to sit out.
I don't, I don't know. It's just for me, It's
just a different situation. Yeah, well, I mean I definitely think.
I mean, like I said, you took the world by
storm and raised to a lottery pick, you know what
I mean. So I completely get you know your decision
in your choice, and obviously you made the right one.
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Let's move to go ahead, Jack, Let's move a little
bit forward though, closer to the draft. Draft night, what
was that moment? Like? Yeah, Draft night was crazy, it was.
It was exciting. Obviously the dream comes true. Always always
envisioned myself and dreamed of walking across that stage and
getting that that jersey from the commissioner. It was a
great night. It was bess enough to have my family
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over there. I had a lot of family that stands too,
So it was a great night and it was fun.
You would swapped for Luca, Luca, you know what I'm saying,
and are arguably the best to UM draft picks in
that draft. Um, what was your thoughts? I mean even
looking at it now, you know and see how both
of y'all have developed in the league and both became stars. Like,
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go back to that night then come back to present
day and what was your thoughts the same? Or do
you look at that different situation different now? Yeah? So
ill me on draft night, you don't really really focus on,
I mean the trade as much just because you're so excited.
I was a fifth pick. I was excited. I knew
I got traded before I got drafted. So when the
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fourth pick happened, they my agent tap you on the
shoulder and told me I'm about to get selected to
go UM to Atlanta. Um, And so I did you
have any idea about that? Did you have any idea
where you were going? No? No, I had no idea
I was going to Atlanta with you that the whole day. UM.
I guess my agent knew, my dad knew, but they
didn't want to tell me. They wanted me to experience
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the whole draft night and keep it between them, So
they kind of knew I was going to Atlanta all day. Um,
but whenever it happened, it happened. And then we go by,
I'm starting hearing about this trade even more and more,
and then obviously our rookie years happened, and that's all
I hear about, and that's all we talked about. So
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it's uh, it's got asked about it a lot. Do
you guys have a close friendship, you and Luca? Yeah, yes,
we were talk every now and then we talked, talked
frequently for sure. How do you describe his game? Very smooth,
very smooth. Uh, He's he could score from all three levels,
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can pass it. Um. Just just super smart. Um, he's
just a super smart player. And it's uh, I think
him playing overseas, playing against grown men, I mean, his
whole life, I think that. I mean that really prepared
him to come over and making the media impact in
the n b A. I mean that's such a young
gage too, so it's uh, it's good to see. Um,
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he's he's super smart player. You started getting compared to
Steph Curry, you know once you kind of made the scene,
and that's a tough person to be compared to. But
to me, you've handled it. Well, you've done your thing.
You've obviously obviously created an old lane for yourself. Like
I said earlier, like people compared you to stuff, but
you know your Trey, you'r you. You. You don't need
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to be compared to no one else. You do your
own thing. You recently went on Shack's podcast. You feel
like in the next year you can take over that
number one slot from Steph. Talk to us about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
everybody's talking to me about that. Ah, so ya know Shock, Well,
I mean youall know Shack. I I answered it. I
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mean I gave a lot of respects to to Stath,
which I have a lot of respect for staff. He's done,
I mean so much. I mean m VP. I think
for if it wasn't for Steath, there wouldn't be maybe
I mean Trey Young, I mean he's deaf, the first
to do I mean do what he's doing, and so
the baby face killer. I got a lot of love
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for Death and uh everything he's done. But for me,
I mean I'm very confident. Shack was trying to get
that out of me. Uh, you know, it's not confident.
I am myself and my work and what I put in.
So that's what that's what it is. I love that.
Who are some other players that you studied growing up?
You know, obviously step is someone that who who who
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a lot of kids look up to? But are there
any other guys you looked up to or or trying
to patting your game after as you were working in
developing your own skills. Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously step
is one, but Steve Nash was the main guy. Uh,
Steve Nash is one of my favorite players. Uh, He's
someone who I watched a lot of film off of
Chris paul Um, I mean a lot of guys, Chauncey Billups.
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That's why it was fun playing against him in the
Horse because he was one of my my role models.
My my auto is growing up too, So it's uh,
those those those few guys are my my main guys
I watched growing up. That's what's so. That's dope. So
look your second year you have his twenty nine nine
and twenty nine and nine, God damn twenty nine and
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nine the second year, right, that's crazy. Yeah, what's the
most what's the most memorable moment of your second year?
The most memorable moment has to be all Star All
Star weekend, being in the All Star game starting. I
saw it. I saw it on your face. Bro, we
was down. I saw it all on your face. Yeah,
I was. I was excited. Man, I ain't gonna lie.
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I don't. I don't get nervous like I always getting
anxious for games, like I'm just ready to play, like
I'm just ready for it to go. But I ain't
gonna lie. All Star night was the first night in
a long time that I was like, all right, man,
like kind of like, this is this is I'm starting
to like. I think it's a difference in being just
a just an All Star and the starter too. It's
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like it's a different feeling. So for me, I was
afraid to go out there and put on the show
and have fun. And for me to be my second years,
it's a it's a blessing the people that have been
around for sure, No congratsman, like you said, to to
get voted in, to be a starter is a whole
another level, especially in your second year with however many
you know, there's so many talented guards now, I mean,
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there's so many talented guards for you to be on
the scene. Is your second year as a starter man.
That's definitely hats off to all the hard work you
put in, man, and what you've been able to accomplish.
I appreciate that. So you, uh, you got caught slipping
with a little bit of ship talking with Jimmy Butler
saying that the game was over a little bit too
early and they came back and snagged you guys in
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that game. Talked to us a little bit about that
because I personally love I've talked about it before. I
love your confidence. To me, it's not cocking, it's it's
confidence because you know how hard you've worked in the
work you've put in. But talk to me about that
particular exchange. Because Jimmy is a dog too. Yeah yeah,
and I love it. I love it. That's why I
love about Jimmy. He's a dog. And uh yeah, I
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remember that game like it was yesterday. We scored, I
made it past my big man, he dumped it and
caught the time out. It was like we were about
six with like fifty seconds left and the game should
have been over. I said it was over, and then
they come down here two threes and y'all know what happened.
And he tweeted he tweeted after the game, and I
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get on the bus and everybody's talking to me about
what he said and all this and uh, what he
said in the media, and for me, I was thinking
about what I should super respond, like after I saw
his tweet and I saw his Instagram post. Um, I
was wondering what I should respond. And I always asked
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my team, like like my team young, like, just what
I should say, like before I actually posted, and they
were like, just just wait till you playing agains, let
that do the talking. And so I didn't. I didn't
say anything after that game and came along and somebody
got the payback talk to us. That's your first, that's
your first fifty ball and it's big. Like you said,
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you you let your work do the talk for you.
How did that feel? It felt great? It felt great.
I was the first game out to All Star. Uh,
first came out the All Star coming back. I had
this date circle and I was ready to play this
game and I just wanted to when it come out,
and uh, I mean win. Um. I wanted to come
out and put on the show and try to win.
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And that was what I did. And um, it was
a great night and I had. That's when I was
able to say something back. So it was fun. I
love I love it. I love it again. Uh, competition, right,
But what I loved most about it was reporter asked
you because you ended up giving Quevo shout out Quevo. Uh,
you ended up giving Quevero your jersey after the game,
and someone asked like, why did you keep that? What
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was your reply? Oh, I only get another fifty point
again was coming. That's not the only one now, it was.
It was Quevo night in Atlanta. Uh. It was the arena.
It was all decked out and Quevo stuff, and so
that's my boy. I just wanted to give it to
him on his night. Uh put a fifty fifty point up.
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So I just wanted to give a definite Man. Is
it is it true that that you keep negative tweets
and uh in comments like that in your phone from
using motivation? No. I I used to when I was
in high school and college, and especially in college, Like
that's me being a nineteen year old taking everything that
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everybody says and just greenshotting and keeping it to myself
and using the motivation. So I used to do that
a lot. I don't do it anymore, obviously in the NBA,
but I used to do that all the time when
I was in college. Coming into the league. Keep that
ship on your shoulder. You're obviously the Nutmeade king you.
You've caught people slipping with that. You hit one of
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my young homies, one of my little little brothers, Trevor,
reason with it, and he gave you a little forearms shiver.
And then I go after the after the game, you
guys talked, but talk to me about that moment, because
I just I liked both sides. I like the fact
that you're like funking, I don't care you want a championship,
You're a veteran defender here, I'm still gonna play with you.
But then I like Trav with Trav, did you like
the this little nick You're not just gonna throw this
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ship between my legs and everyone laughing on me? So
I love, Like I said, I loved both sides of it.
Talk to us about that situation, and then with you
and TV talked about that. But but but this on
the side we missed, Matt with on the side we
missed was the role me and you would have played
was after Trav did that to you. Where was the
teammate to come and take Trav out for you? Where
was that guy? That's that's the we missed. It's a
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different game now, Jack, it's a different game. Don't you
don't want this different game? Now? Different game? No, it
was that that moment was was fun. I mean people
people look at me, and I mean they may they
may think it's I mean, it's all funny games and
and soft, but I'm I mean when I'm on the court,
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I'm I'm a dog, like I'm physical, I'm tough. So
like whenever he did that, I mean I would do
the same thing, like I time and someone through it
between my legs in the middle of a game. We're
in transition, like I ain't about to let that happen.
I may do the same straight up. So like people
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people want to look at that and say say whatever,
But I mean, I love it, Like That's what I
was telling the crowd. I told the crowd to get
into it, like I love it. Like that next player,
I felt, like, to be honest, I felt like we
were at the park because that next possession, I got,
the ball, got the screen got switched back on. Trevor
and just went at it and I think I hit
a floater and I got a tex So like it
felt like a part like I was just that's just
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that's just what I left. And it was a moment.
That's dope. You've been one player that I really think.
It's amazing is you've got photos since you were little
coming up with all the people you're playing this now, Yeah,
talk to me one about that. But then also you know,
having that opportunity with Kobe. Yeah, yeah, no, it's uh,
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I've been blessed. I mean my dad, my dad played
basketball for a long time, played against a lot of
best players. He played in College of Texas Tech and
then uh, I mean a little bit overseas and so
he knows a lot of people boo um. So growing up. Obviously,
I'm twenty thirty minutes down from Okay. See, so I
was going to Thunder games and even when Chris Paul
was here with the City Hornets, I was going to games.
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That's where I get a lot of my pictures with Chauncey.
That's where I met Shauncey, Um met Chris Paul. Uh
and then my my dad and David Vanderpool are really close. Um.
So that's how they able to meet meet Dame and
when David was in Okay. See, that's how I got
to to meet to interact with k D and Russ
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and all these guys that ever came through. So, I mean,
just the connections my dad had with people in in
the league really helped me, I mean, be able to
meet these these players that I grew up, I mean
idolizing mm hmm. Now you tweeted one time that Kobe
is your m j um. Obviously you were GI's favorite player.
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She came and watched you. You put on a show
for her. Um dropped forty five one game when she
was there. Talk to us just a little bit. Obviously
we all lost her brothers. But tell me what that connection,
with that brief connection you had with them, and what
that connection was like and how much that meant to you. Yeah,
so it's uh, obviously it's a sad situation. Um Kobe Uh.
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I recently got to meet Kobe um and talked to
him even more this past year. Uh he Uh. His
daughter obviously loves loves watching me, loves watching me play,
and so Kobe got got connected with my trainer, Alex
Bizell and so that's how uh G G was working
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with my train there and she found out and so
that's how I got connected with Kobe Is through my
trainer Alex and so me and Kobe got to talk
pretty pretty frequently. Um and he just gave me a
lot of advice. Uh So the two out of the
three games he went to this season were once when
I played in l A and then other in Brooklyn.
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Uh So it was it's crazy, crazy time. Uh it
was even more heartbreaking for me knowing that I was
GI's favorite player to watch. Um So it's uh sad,
sad for me, sad story. And um, I was just
blessed I was able to meet him and had that
type of relationship and relationship with him. So you did
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something that I mean honorable, you know what I mean
when he passed and in the game, you wore eight
four second and you dropped forty five and fourteen. Talked
to us about that because if I'm not mistaken, you
hit a deep You had a deep shot too, didn't you. Yeah? Yeah,
I did. I hit one, uh almost yeah, three quarter court.
Um And it just felt like everything went in that game.
(26:45):
And it's crazy. I think Uh, if I remember right, Uh,
I was the first person to have forty five and
I think fourteen and shooting and shoot a certain percentage
against the Wizards since since Kobe, so like that day
just felt like I mean, he was with me that day.
It was just a crazy, crazy time. Mm hmm. We're
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gonna We're gonna pay it from Cobe and go to
Vince Carter. Bro Vince Carter Final season. Any advice he's
given you. Vinces given me a lot of advice with
the past two seasons. Uh, this one, I mean many. Uh.
He was just talking about just how to handle I
mean startom. I mean he's he's been in that that limelight. Um,
(27:26):
been a franchise player. So for for me to be
to have a guy like Vince who has been in
my position, um, I mean it's been very helpful and
it's gonna help me moving on. Um. Hopefully we haven't
seen his last game, but if we have, Uh, I mean,
he's had a hell of a year, a hell of
a career, and it was fun playing with him. He's
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a he's been a legend and he helped me a lot,
especially in this this role that I'm in. Well, it's
crazy to think you he was in the league before
you were born or no, right, how do you I'm
twenty one. Yeah, so he was been in the league
before you were born. And and to think that his
longevity to be able to get a chance to obviously,
(28:11):
you know, you get a chance to play with him,
with him, to get a chance to play with you
when he's a full you know, he's twice your age.
You know, I just think, to me, looking at I
got a chance to play with Vinca and to me,
one of the most talented individuals I've ever seen. She
was regular jump shots from half court, right, left hand,
and we all know what he could do in the
dunking game. But for his longevity, be on the last
as long as he did, and you get a chance
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to play with him, I think, I mean, it seems
like you have great respect. You got d Wag's jersey
on his retirement run. How do you look back, as
you know, with some of the guys you grew up with,
and and and as they retire, and then looking forward
to your own future. Yeah, it's it's uh, I mean,
it's a blessing. I mean, Matt, I look as a
blessing it's uh. I try to I played this game
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for respect. I played this game to get the respect
I mean from others. Um, I played super hard. I
try to put on a put on the show every
time I go out and go out on the court.
And so for me to I mean, get d Ways
Jersey his last time in Atlanta, for me to be
able to to give Vince Carter his last bucket in
the NBA possibly, I mean, this is this is a blessing.
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Like That's how I look at it. And I don't
take those moments for granted. And I I'm always gonna
remember these moments that I have with these these people
that I looked up, looked up to, and I'm just
gonna cherish these moments. Dope, Dope, what's your top five
point guards of all time? Top five point guards all
(29:38):
the time. You're gonna put me on the spot. I'm
a I'm gonna I'm gonna go Steve. It's not one
through five, just your top five, it's not one through five.
Just okay, okay, okay, good, good, good, all right. I
got Steve Nash in there, I got Steph, I have Ai,
(29:59):
I got magic mm hmm, and I got oh Chris Paula.
That's a good call. I'm gonna put you on the
spot again. You're all time starting five, all time starting five,
all right, Steve Nash at the one mm hmmm, Um,
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Kobe at the two, um Man Lebron at the three
here three, Um, I'm gonna put WHOA The four is tough.
I want to go KD number four at the four?
(30:43):
Uh Ei k D or kg Um. I'm gonna go
to KD though, and then who puts shock at the five?
Oh bosh, gotta finish with dieseler diesel Hey. But he left,
He went with the new shooting. He went with cob
over MG shooting guard. I'm not mad, Yeah, I'm not
(31:04):
not mad. I'm not mad. Man, go man, you got it,
you got it. So you're really cool with Equavo, right,
and you dropped the fifth piece of night that his
little thing at the arena. He also gave your ice
tray chain. You know what I mean? Okay, besides Quevo,
because I know that your boy artists and songs that
(31:25):
you have on repeat right now? What artists are song
you haven't repeat right now? Oh uh see, I'm a
big Jake Cole fan, big Jacob. I'm a big Meek fan.
I'm a big Drake fan. But I love Little Baby's
(31:51):
new album. Everybody does everybody mostly scars getting played, Um,
but those are I just like listening to certain artists.
I ain't gonna lie like I'm I'm big into R
and B slow jams, like like rappers, like rappers who
like tell stories and so yeah that R and B
(32:12):
is that that that that by racial in you? I'm
the same way. And that's that John be and and
who's one rapper or rappers you would like to hear
your name drop? You one rapper? Uh? If I had
to have someone name dropped me, Oh, that's tough, that's tough. Um,
(32:41):
jay Z oh he went back and we just had it.
We just had a job of rent on here. He
called jay Z old school. What I love to know.
I mean, but I understand, like y'all boys are young
for real, So them dudes are really like I mean,
if you look, if you really think about it, it is.
But it me and jack Off Garc was like, well damn,
(33:02):
we grew up with Jay but like that she just real.
She was real old school right now. So it's crazy,
it's crazy. I was talking to my dad. I was
talking to my dad the other day and we're doing comparisons,
and I'm like, your school, Like, I mean, my dad's like,
my dad's a just like how was your dad? Your
minds asking? So we have three He's like Jack yeah, yeah,
(33:25):
so he's like uh so he's uh um like his
his best player was Michael Jordans on the court, jay
Z and the music industry, and so for me, it's
like Lebron on the court, Lebron Lebron on the court,
and then you got i mean, Drake, you name it,
(33:47):
name it right. What I'm saying like, it's just two
different generations. I feel like this is this generation. I mean,
you see the best players of all time. You talked
about Jordan and braun m. I mean it's it's like
different generation. You know. Yeah, Top three handles of all time.
And you can throw yourself in that mix if you like,
who's top three handles of all time? Top three handles, Um,
(34:11):
gotta go is Kyrie's in there, m A is in there,
and then the O g rod stricklands in there. I'm
glad you know about my history. I did you know?
Did you know that's Kyrie's guard father. Yeah I knew that, Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah,
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I mean we're gonna Matt Yeah, quick hitters man, We're
gonna first thing to come to mind. Answer, Go ahead, Jack?
Who should be a guest on All the Smoke? Who
do you think? And like we always say, whoever you say,
if you had a plug on who you who you
think should be on the show. You gotta fall through
with that plug. Yeah, you gotta fall through with it. Okay,
who I think you'd be on All the Smoke? I
(34:54):
think Joel and b that's gonna be nice, gonna be good. Yeah,
if you if you got that plug, plug us plug it.
He doesn't get a big fella yeah, hell yeah. Most
underrated player right now. Most underrated player, Um, Drew Holiday.
(35:17):
Everybody say Drew Holiday. Fact, everybody, everybody, everybody. We've got
Drew Holiday the most. We've had some people say c J. McCullough,
and we've had some people say Bradley Bill, But Drew
Holiday is the constant. Yeah, you at home right now
in quarantine? What you being watching? A couple of shows?
(35:40):
Ozart is one more. Yeah, so those are those are
the two I've I've watched I'm a big day you're
a big what stand up comedian? Okay, yeah, I like
watching hard Mike gets aw them because tech. Yeah, Dave
(36:02):
Chappelle stand up was good and then the Blue. I
gotta say, like, someone put me on Deon Cole's stand up?
Have you seen d I don't want to Ray. De
Ray stand up was cold to d Ray. Standard was
funny as a motherfucker. But Deon Cole check our Dean Coles.
(36:23):
If you ever seen the Standard? That ship was so funny.
Bro Um quarantine favorite quarantine snack, favorite quarantine snack, powdered doughnuts.
Jackie eating powder donuts, but he don't eat them. Jackie
looks to be looking like eating powder donuts, but you
don't even eat the powder donuts. No, damn Backwoods NBA
(36:48):
FLA has the most wag oh um de low Yeah,
if you can go back, maybe before you're born, maybe
just before you got to the league, and said courtside
to watch any two superstars go at it? What would
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that matchup be towards any two superstars? Um? Good question.
I would watch that All Star game when Jordan and
Kobe played against each other. Was that Kobe's first second
All Star game. That was his Kobe showed out. Yeah,
that was his first one. That would have been what's
(37:34):
your favorite retro jersey? Uh? The the rats with the
with the dinosaur on the Damon Stodomer times. That's Carder times. Yeah.
One player that you didn't get a chance to play
against its retired that you wish you got a chance
to go head up with or against. Um uh hey,
(38:01):
i oh, that would have been a battle. That would
have been a batting boys would have been yanking each
other all over the quarter against the answer to hey man,
that's a wrap man, Trey, We appreciate your time, man,
Thank you for jumping on with us. Hopefully when all
this ship comes down, we have you come to the
studio really funk with us. Man. Of course, any time,
(38:22):
anytime appreciated, Stay safe, enjoy that family time. That's a
wrap man, All the Smoke Quarantine edition with our brother
Trey Young Jack. Great job, Trey. We appreciate you, bro.
You can catch this on Showtime Basketball, YouTube and all
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It's something about how this place forms a different kind
of person. On my high school team, we have five
guys make the NBA. We had the County Rock Act.
You mentioned Prince Shorts County. People know it's about it's
(39:19):
the meta of basketball. There are those who come before us,
upon whose shoulders we stay. We're here from this area.
You have to have tough scarre The gym became a sanctuary.
B G County guys provide buckets for America. Prince Georgia
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tacks a lot of power, a lot of character. It's
nothing that you can do to stop a competitive and
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(00:30):
Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a
real special guys. What's up with your brode with the
virtual handshake. I'm gonna tell ya something that I never
told no about it. I want to smoke. Welcome back
to a special Quarantine edition of all the smoke. I'm
out here in l a big smoking jack. What you
want break dancing, working on my TikTok moves shout. Our
(00:58):
next guest knows all about that TikTok game man and
him his little brother be on there all the time.
But man, this is fun. Man. I'm excited. Man, this
is to me, the best young players in the game.
Excited to watch him. My love is enthusiasm. He plays
with motherfucker's He makes fools out of people. People be
getting mad. The nutmeger I probably would have got mad too,
Not even gonna lie. But anyway, man, one of the
(01:19):
best young talents in the game, Trey welcome, Pray. What's
up y'all? Welcome to the show, little bro. I appreciate
y'all having it's been been too long, man, I appreciate
you taking some time with us. So how how's everything?
So we just I asked you of. So you're back
at home with in Oklahoma right now with the fam. Yeah, yes,
(01:39):
I'm back home. I came back here as soon as
they led us, to be honest. The only reason why
it is because obviously I'm we're at home. But this
my house here is the only one that has a
basketball goal out front, So yeah, get some stuff in well.
Speaking of the basketball goal, you played in the NBA's
horse competition. Yeah, yeah, it didn't. It didn't work out
(02:02):
well for me. I don't understand how they did the
seeding and how they messed me up with A with A,
I mean Hall of Famer with ny uh. He can
still play, still shoot, he's still being pick up runs
and big shot for life. That jumper don't go nowhere
for big shot. I didn't like it, man, I didn't
like it. I think hard Horst has to be played
in person, you know what I mean. I think that's
(02:24):
how you get that, you know, what I mean you
and I kind of felt like I'm gonna be honest
with you. Know I'm a real with Tray. I kind
of feel like you took it easy on big Shot.
I ain't gonna lie. I think I didn't take it
as serious as I probably should have. I got I
got a lot of love for he's helped me help ye.
But maybe that's a littlettle bit, Maybe that's a lot
(02:45):
of little uh reason why you want talk to us
a little bit about you are very involved, but I
love about you as You're very engaging, you know what
I mean. And I think we've seen more NBA players
that particularly be more engaging obviously over this quarantine. But
so you've got a little brother, and you guys are
tiktoking all over the place, and you're very heavy into
the social media game. Talk to us a little bit
(03:07):
about that and how you enjoy that. Yeah, yeah, no, So,
I mean me and my brother had definitely been um
making a lot of TikTok's. Like I told you off air,
I don't I don't be dancing like that. So this
is the time that I'm just trying to experience new things,
be around my family, be around I mean my close people.
(03:28):
As much as I can learn new things and learn
how to cook different thing. How its cooking going. I
mean I'll try like one or two things. They haven't
went well. So I got some more time to practice stuff.
I got some more time. Thank god, Hey, thank god,
you're rich. You gonna have people cooking that ship for
you. You You got met mom and dad. He's good. He
got mom and dad. He's good. Yeah. Yeah. Why do
(03:51):
you feel it's important to engage with the fans. I
think it's very important. Um. I think it's I mean,
obviously we're trying to continue to grow the game game,
and for me, I feel like, um, I mean, the
more I continue to get better and produced and make plays.
I mean my, I mean, the more people following me,
the more people that are looking up to me. I
(04:13):
think it's for me to use my platform in the
right way to to stay involved with the fans and
make sure they're still loving the game of basketball the
way I do. Um. So, I think it's just like
a responsibility for me to be honest with you, just
to make sure everybody's still engaged. Even even even when
(04:33):
basketball is back, players and fans gonna have to be
you know, kind of separated. What's your thoughts on that
that's gonna be. That's gonna be different. I mean it's
gonna be Uh, it's gonna be obviously something that a
lot of the players have never experienced before. UM, a
lot of fans I've never experienced before. So it's gonna
(04:53):
be different. Um, But I know, I mean, we have
I mean, one other's not the best commissioners in in
the world, UM, and he's gonna make make sure that
we're all doing it the right way, make sure everybody's safe. Obviously,
we all want to have fans in the buildings. But
if it's not the safest thing to to do, Um,
I think it's the right thing. And I know, I mean,
(05:15):
I'm still gonna do the best best thing for us.
Have you heard anything being a player about possible return.
We're here in a possible twenty five day training camp.
We're hearing some stuff happening in Vegas. Um, as a player,
how closely do you follow that and do you have
any kind of update on what's going on? Yeah, yeah,
I'm following it closely. Um. Obviously, I'm I'm kind of
just in the same boat as everybody else. I'm trying
(05:36):
to wait, wait, and see, just like everybody else is. Um.
I mean, obviously I want to return back as soon
as possible. I know, uh, I hear all the rumors
and different things and that that involved is coming back early,
but with the twenty five day thing. But now I'm
still I'm still just in the I don't know stays.
(05:57):
Like a lot of people, uh, like a lot of
people are right out. Yeah do you do. Do you
feel the NBA handled did the right way? I think so.
I think so, Um, this is a crazy time. Uh.
I don't necessarily know how to put it in their words, like, uh,
I think they've never none none of us have ever
been through something like this, so it's hard to put
(06:18):
it in words. We've never been through nothing like this. Yeah, nas, yeah,
So I mean, like you said, it's it's a it's
a different time. So I think I think the NBA
handled it, I mean the best they could, the best
that they thought they could. I don't think there's a
right or wrong answer to the way where he did happened.
This is the first time this has happened, so and
I think for it to happen, I think we handled
(06:39):
the right way, and I think too. I mean, I
think we've discussed it with other guys. I think people
started taking it serious after the NBA did cancel the
season because knowing how much money that I was gonna
cost them and the sacrifices this league would make to
cancel it. I think I know personally, like when they
said ship the NBA season is canceled. That's when I'm
just like, Okay, well this is really real. And you
(06:59):
saw it's kind of a domino effect of kind of
almost the world shutting down post the NBA. Like I'm
not saying it all happened because the NBA, but it possibly.
It definitely started knocking the dominoes down once they announced
the season was gonna be postponed. Yeah, no, it's Uh.
The NBA is a I mean the big one of
the biggest platforms and uh once once we ended our
(07:21):
seat and felt like it's just a trickle down to
tech to everything else, like you said, and um, yeah,
I think we had it the right way, and I
think we all want sports back, but we need we
need to make sure it comes back the right way.
Everybody's safe. Let's jump to your college career. You were
one and done at Oklahoma moved a lot of heads,
turned a lot of eyes, you know, dubbed does the
(07:43):
possible next steph Curry. But you're looking at yourself as obviously,
Trey Young. Talk to us about your one and done
experience because even today, which we'll get to, that landscape
of college basketball starting to change. But how fun or
what was your college experience like for you? I had
a great college expense fun. I got to stay home.
It came down to the two blue bloods Kentucky, Kansas
(08:05):
and Oklahoma. I decided to stay home playing in front
of my friends, my family, to be able to have
them come to all my games. It was great, It
was fun, kind of hectic. It was a hectic year.
It was Baker Mayfield's last year in college, so he
was obviously the man on campus that first half and
then that second half. I mean, it was basketball season
and it was kind of it was trade. It was
(08:25):
trade tongue. It was two different worlds. It was fun,
it was a great, great experience, and uh, I was
blessed to be able to stay home and play playing
Norman Oklahoma. Yeah. See, we have two different kind of
outlooks on this because I was talking to some people
earlier today because obviously Dreven Green announced that he's gonna
forego college and go right to the G League. So
they said he's gonna get make up towards of five
(08:47):
K plus, uh, get a scholarship for a hundred twenty
five thousand to go to college that he wants to
to go, uh further his education, and then also outside
NB what I think is NBA training outside of the
G League, So it's all most like college. You know,
Jack and I were talking before. They should have been
on this ship earlier. They should have been playing players
for what they're worth. Because now with this move that
(09:09):
that this young boy made, this could possibly forever change
the landscape of how kids look at college. Kids are
gonna like they finally found a way to jump. You're
trying to tell me I can get paid at half
a million dollars, possibly get a shoe deal. They're gonna
pay for my school a later time, and they're gonna
pay for my training. Like what kid is not gonna
take that? And I think that's the n C double
A's faut because they've been bullshitting and dragging their feet
(09:29):
for so long. No, no, I mean, to be honest, Matt,
I agree with I mean everything you said. I think
this is it's all about to change, and it sucks.
It sucks for me because I know how much college
basketball did for me, Um, how much of that that
that stage and playing on ESPN every day, putting on
(09:52):
the show every game, how much that did for me
and my draft status and going top five. And I
know I want to help me, but also see white
kids like I mean Jalen uh and many more kids
I mean the mellow ball, Like, how many more kids
are about to start doing this going straight to the
uh I mean G League or taking the overseas route
(10:14):
rather than going to n C A A and sitting
out a year uh, basically missing out a money, especially
with that likeness, and they're gonna be bringing that school
with so much money, um and not getting anything back
from it. I mean, I see how this it's going
to change. Yeah. That's interestingly because we were, like I said,
I was talking about this earlier. I have a U
(10:36):
c L A group chat with guys that I went
to college with. Shouldn't never you know, fifteen twenty years
ago we were talking about how fun college was. You
know what I mean like that was kind of like
our chat chance to kind of be adults but not
necessarily have adult responsibilities. And outside of having kids, there was,
you know, some of the funniest times in my life.
So kids won't get to experience that from a standpoint.
But today the game is more about the business. It's
(10:58):
the business of basketball. Back then it is just pure
college although guys were getting paid, we're still doing our thing,
but it was the pureness of it. You know. Now
it's about question if you have this opportunity. Now, if
you were coming, you know, the top high school player,
would you have still gone to Oklahoma for a year
or would you have taken possibly another money route. Uh,
it's it was a different situation for me. I was
(11:21):
in that kind of middle middle tier pack. I was.
I mean I was as American, but I was. I
mean they had me fourth fifth at my position, had
me going into school three maybe four years. Um. And
for me, it's it's just the people that it's hard
to to really base what I would have done. Um,
(11:42):
I think I needed college just to really show people.
I needed to show people that with that platform that I, uh,
the college basketball brings. I think for me, that's that's
what helped me become a top five pick. And so
for me in my my situation was totally different. So
but I can see why guy like Michael Porter would
have would have sat out, I mean a year and
(12:04):
went straight to the G League and got more help
on his back or whatever, just just to sit out.
I don't, I don't know. It's just for me, It's
just a different situation. Yeah, well, I mean I definitely think.
I mean, like I said, you took the world by
storm and raised to a lottery pick, you know what
I mean. So I completely get you know your decision
in your choice, and obviously you made the right one.
(12:24):
Let's move to go ahead, Jack, Let's move a little
bit forward though, closer to the draft. Draft night, what
was that moment? Like? Yeah, Draft night was crazy, it was.
It was exciting. Obviously the dream comes true. Always always
envisioned myself and dreamed of walking across that stage and
getting that that jersey from the commissioner. It was a
great night. It was bess enough to have my family
(12:46):
over there. I had a lot of family that stands too,
So it was a great night and it was fun.
You would swapped for Luca, Luca, you know what I'm saying,
and are arguably the best to UM draft picks in
that draft. Um, what was your thoughts? I mean even
looking at it now, you know and see how both
of y'all have developed in the league and both became stars. Like,
(13:07):
go back to that night then come back to present
day and what was your thoughts the same? Or do
you look at that different situation different now? Yeah? So
ill me on draft night, you don't really really focus on,
I mean the trade as much just because you're so excited.
I was a fifth pick. I was excited. I knew
I got traded before I got drafted. So when the
(13:28):
fourth pick happened, they my agent tap you on the
shoulder and told me I'm about to get selected to
go UM to Atlanta. Um, And so I did you
have any idea about that? Did you have any idea
where you were going? No? No, I had no idea
I was going to Atlanta with you that the whole day. UM.
I guess my agent knew, my dad knew, but they
didn't want to tell me. They wanted me to experience
(13:49):
the whole draft night and keep it between them, So
they kind of knew I was going to Atlanta all day. Um,
but whenever it happened, it happened. And then we go by,
I'm starting hearing about this trade even more and more,
and then obviously our rookie years happened, and that's all
I hear about, and that's all we talked about. So
(14:10):
it's uh, it's got asked about it a lot. Do
you guys have a close friendship, you and Luca? Yeah, yes,
we were talk every now and then we talked, talked
frequently for sure. How do you describe his game? Very smooth,
very smooth. Uh, He's he could score from all three levels,
(14:32):
can pass it. Um. Just just super smart. Um, he's
just a super smart player. And it's uh, I think
him playing overseas, playing against grown men, I mean, his
whole life, I think that. I mean that really prepared
him to come over and making the media impact in
the n b A. I mean that's such a young
gage too, so it's uh, it's good to see. Um,
(14:55):
he's he's super smart player. You started getting compared to
Steph Curry, you know once you kind of made the scene,
and that's a tough person to be compared to. But
to me, you've handled it. Well, you've done your thing.
You've obviously obviously created an old lane for yourself. Like
I said earlier, like people compared you to stuff, but
you know your Trey, you'r you. You. You don't need
(15:17):
to be compared to no one else. You do your
own thing. You recently went on Shack's podcast. You feel
like in the next year you can take over that
number one slot from Steph. Talk to us about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
everybody's talking to me about that. Ah, so ya know Shock, Well,
I mean youall know Shack. I I answered it. I
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mean I gave a lot of respects to to Stath,
which I have a lot of respect for staff. He's done,
I mean so much. I mean m VP. I think
for if it wasn't for Steath, there wouldn't be maybe
I mean Trey Young, I mean he's deaf, the first
to do I mean do what he's doing, and so
the baby face killer. I got a lot of love
(15:59):
for Death and uh everything he's done. But for me,
I mean I'm very confident. Shack was trying to get
that out of me. Uh, you know, it's not confident.
I am myself and my work and what I put in.
So that's what that's what it is. I love that.
Who are some other players that you studied growing up?
You know, obviously step is someone that who who who
(16:19):
a lot of kids look up to? But are there
any other guys you looked up to or or trying
to patting your game after as you were working in
developing your own skills. Yeah, yeah, I mean obviously step
is one, but Steve Nash was the main guy. Uh,
Steve Nash is one of my favorite players. Uh, He's
someone who I watched a lot of film off of
Chris paul Um, I mean a lot of guys, Chauncey Billups.
(16:43):
That's why it was fun playing against him in the
Horse because he was one of my my role models.
My my auto is growing up too, So it's uh,
those those those few guys are my my main guys
I watched growing up. That's what's so. That's dope. So
look your second year you have his twenty nine nine
and twenty nine and nine, God damn twenty nine and
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nine the second year, right, that's crazy. Yeah, what's the
most what's the most memorable moment of your second year?
The most memorable moment has to be all Star All
Star weekend, being in the All Star game starting. I
saw it. I saw it on your face. Bro, we
was down. I saw it all on your face. Yeah,
I was. I was excited. Man, I ain't gonna lie.
(17:27):
I don't. I don't get nervous like I always getting
anxious for games, like I'm just ready to play, like
I'm just ready for it to go. But I ain't
gonna lie. All Star night was the first night in
a long time that I was like, all right, man,
like kind of like, this is this is I'm starting
to like. I think it's a difference in being just
a just an All Star and the starter too. It's
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like it's a different feeling. So for me, I was
afraid to go out there and put on the show
and have fun. And for me to be my second years,
it's a it's a blessing the people that have been
around for sure, No congratsman, like you said, to to
get voted in, to be a starter is a whole
another level, especially in your second year with however many
you know, there's so many talented guards now, I mean,
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there's so many talented guards for you to be on
the scene. Is your second year as a starter man.
That's definitely hats off to all the hard work you
put in, man, and what you've been able to accomplish.
I appreciate that. So you, uh, you got caught slipping
with a little bit of ship talking with Jimmy Butler
saying that the game was over a little bit too
early and they came back and snagged you guys in
(18:31):
that game. Talked to us a little bit about that
because I personally love I've talked about it before. I
love your confidence. To me, it's not cocking, it's it's
confidence because you know how hard you've worked in the
work you've put in. But talk to me about that
particular exchange. Because Jimmy is a dog too. Yeah yeah,
and I love it. I love it. That's why I
love about Jimmy. He's a dog. And uh yeah, I
(18:51):
remember that game like it was yesterday. We scored, I
made it past my big man, he dumped it and
caught the time out. It was like we were about
six with like fifty seconds left and the game should
have been over. I said it was over, and then
they come down here two threes and y'all know what happened.
And he tweeted he tweeted after the game, and I
(19:12):
get on the bus and everybody's talking to me about
what he said and all this and uh, what he
said in the media, and for me, I was thinking
about what I should super respond, like after I saw
his tweet and I saw his Instagram post. Um, I
was wondering what I should respond. And I always asked
(19:32):
my team, like like my team young, like, just what
I should say, like before I actually posted, and they
were like, just just wait till you playing agains, let
that do the talking. And so I didn't. I didn't
say anything after that game and came along and somebody
got the payback talk to us. That's your first, that's
your first fifty ball and it's big. Like you said,
(19:54):
you you let your work do the talk for you.
How did that feel? It felt great? It felt great.
I was the first game out to All Star. Uh,
first came out the All Star coming back. I had
this date circle and I was ready to play this
game and I just wanted to when it come out,
and uh, I mean win. Um. I wanted to come
out and put on the show and try to win.
(20:15):
And that was what I did. And um, it was
a great night and I had. That's when I was
able to say something back. So it was fun. I
love I love it. I love it again. Uh, competition, right,
But what I loved most about it was reporter asked
you because you ended up giving Quevo shout out Quevo. Uh,
you ended up giving Quevero your jersey after the game,
and someone asked like, why did you keep that? What
(20:36):
was your reply? Oh, I only get another fifty point
again was coming. That's not the only one now, it was.
It was Quevo night in Atlanta. Uh. It was the arena.
It was all decked out and Quevo stuff, and so
that's my boy. I just wanted to give it to
him on his night. Uh put a fifty fifty point up.
(20:58):
So I just wanted to give a definite Man. Is
it is it true that that you keep negative tweets
and uh in comments like that in your phone from
using motivation? No. I I used to when I was
in high school and college, and especially in college, Like
that's me being a nineteen year old taking everything that
(21:19):
everybody says and just greenshotting and keeping it to myself
and using the motivation. So I used to do that
a lot. I don't do it anymore, obviously in the NBA,
but I used to do that all the time when
I was in college. Coming into the league. Keep that
ship on your shoulder. You're obviously the Nutmeade king you.
You've caught people slipping with that. You hit one of
(21:40):
my young homies, one of my little little brothers, Trevor,
reason with it, and he gave you a little forearms shiver.
And then I go after the after the game, you
guys talked, but talk to me about that moment, because
I just I liked both sides. I like the fact
that you're like funking, I don't care you want a championship,
You're a veteran defender here, I'm still gonna play with you.
But then I like Trav with Trav, did you like
the this little nick You're not just gonna throw this
(22:01):
ship between my legs and everyone laughing on me? So
I love, Like I said, I loved both sides of it.
Talk to us about that situation, and then with you
and TV talked about that. But but but this on
the side we missed, Matt with on the side we
missed was the role me and you would have played
was after Trav did that to you. Where was the
teammate to come and take Trav out for you? Where
was that guy? That's that's the we missed. It's a
(22:24):
different game now, Jack, it's a different game. Don't you
don't want this different game? Now? Different game? No, it
was that that moment was was fun. I mean people
people look at me, and I mean they may they
may think it's I mean, it's all funny games and
and soft, but I'm I mean when I'm on the court,
(22:44):
I'm I'm a dog, like I'm physical, I'm tough. So
like whenever he did that, I mean I would do
the same thing, like I time and someone through it
between my legs in the middle of a game. We're
in transition, like I ain't about to let that happen.
I may do the same straight up. So like people
(23:04):
people want to look at that and say say whatever,
But I mean, I love it, Like That's what I
was telling the crowd. I told the crowd to get
into it, like I love it. Like that next player,
I felt, like, to be honest, I felt like we
were at the park because that next possession, I got,
the ball, got the screen got switched back on. Trevor
and just went at it and I think I hit
a floater and I got a tex So like it
felt like a part like I was just that's just
(23:25):
that's just what I left. And it was a moment.
That's dope. You've been one player that I really think.
It's amazing is you've got photos since you were little
coming up with all the people you're playing this now, Yeah,
talk to me one about that. But then also you know,
having that opportunity with Kobe. Yeah, yeah, no, it's uh,
(23:48):
I've been blessed. I mean my dad, my dad played
basketball for a long time, played against a lot of
best players. He played in College of Texas Tech and
then uh, I mean a little bit overseas and so
he knows a lot of people boo um. So growing up. Obviously,
I'm twenty thirty minutes down from Okay. See, so I
was going to Thunder games and even when Chris Paul
was here with the City Hornets, I was going to games.
(24:11):
That's where I get a lot of my pictures with Chauncey.
That's where I met Shauncey, Um met Chris Paul. Uh
and then my my dad and David Vanderpool are really close. Um.
So that's how they able to meet meet Dame and
when David was in Okay. See, that's how I got
to to meet to interact with k D and Russ
(24:32):
and all these guys that ever came through. So, I mean,
just the connections my dad had with people in in
the league really helped me, I mean, be able to
meet these these players that I grew up, I mean
idolizing mm hmm. Now you tweeted one time that Kobe
is your m j um. Obviously you were GI's favorite player.
(24:53):
She came and watched you. You put on a show
for her. Um dropped forty five one game when she
was there. Talk to us just a little bit. Obviously
we all lost her brothers. But tell me what that connection,
with that brief connection you had with them, and what
that connection was like and how much that meant to you. Yeah,
so it's uh, obviously it's a sad situation. Um Kobe Uh.
(25:14):
I recently got to meet Kobe um and talked to
him even more this past year. Uh he Uh. His
daughter obviously loves loves watching me, loves watching me play,
and so Kobe got got connected with my trainer, Alex
Bizell and so that's how uh G G was working
(25:37):
with my train there and she found out and so
that's how I got connected with Kobe Is through my
trainer Alex and so me and Kobe got to talk
pretty pretty frequently. Um and he just gave me a
lot of advice. Uh So the two out of the
three games he went to this season were once when
I played in l A and then other in Brooklyn.
(25:59):
Uh So it was it's crazy, crazy time. Uh it
was even more heartbreaking for me knowing that I was
GI's favorite player to watch. Um So it's uh sad,
sad for me, sad story. And um, I was just
blessed I was able to meet him and had that
type of relationship and relationship with him. So you did
(26:22):
something that I mean honorable, you know what I mean
when he passed and in the game, you wore eight
four second and you dropped forty five and fourteen. Talked
to us about that because if I'm not mistaken, you
hit a deep You had a deep shot too, didn't you. Yeah? Yeah,
I did. I hit one, uh almost yeah, three quarter court.
Um And it just felt like everything went in that game.
(26:45):
And it's crazy. I think Uh, if I remember right, Uh,
I was the first person to have forty five and
I think fourteen and shooting and shoot a certain percentage
against the Wizards since since Kobe, so like that day
just felt like I mean, he was with me that day.
It was just a crazy, crazy time. Mm hmm. We're
(27:06):
gonna We're gonna pay it from Cobe and go to
Vince Carter. Bro Vince Carter Final season. Any advice he's
given you. Vinces given me a lot of advice with
the past two seasons. Uh, this one, I mean many. Uh.
He was just talking about just how to handle I
mean startom. I mean he's he's been in that that limelight. Um,
(27:26):
been a franchise player. So for for me to be
to have a guy like Vince who has been in
my position, um, I mean it's been very helpful and
it's gonna help me moving on. Um. Hopefully we haven't
seen his last game, but if we have, Uh, I mean,
he's had a hell of a year, a hell of
a career, and it was fun playing with him. He's
(27:50):
a he's been a legend and he helped me a lot,
especially in this this role that I'm in. Well, it's
crazy to think you he was in the league before
you were born or no, right, how do you I'm
twenty one. Yeah, so he was been in the league
before you were born. And and to think that his
longevity to be able to get a chance to obviously,
(28:11):
you know, you get a chance to play with him,
with him, to get a chance to play with you
when he's a full you know, he's twice your age.
You know, I just think, to me, looking at I
got a chance to play with Vinca and to me,
one of the most talented individuals I've ever seen. She
was regular jump shots from half court, right, left hand,
and we all know what he could do in the
dunking game. But for his longevity, be on the last
as long as he did, and you get a chance
(28:32):
to play with him, I think, I mean, it seems
like you have great respect. You got d Wag's jersey
on his retirement run. How do you look back, as
you know, with some of the guys you grew up with,
and and and as they retire, and then looking forward
to your own future. Yeah, it's it's uh, I mean,
it's a blessing. I mean, Matt, I look as a
blessing it's uh. I try to I played this game
(28:53):
for respect. I played this game to get the respect
I mean from others. Um, I played super hard. I
try to put on a put on the show every
time I go out and go out on the court.
And so for me to I mean, get d Ways
Jersey his last time in Atlanta, for me to be
able to to give Vince Carter his last bucket in
the NBA possibly, I mean, this is this is a blessing.
(29:16):
Like That's how I look at it. And I don't
take those moments for granted. And I I'm always gonna
remember these moments that I have with these these people
that I looked up, looked up to, and I'm just
gonna cherish these moments. Dope, Dope, what's your top five
point guards of all time? Top five point guards all
(29:38):
the time. You're gonna put me on the spot. I'm
a I'm gonna I'm gonna go Steve. It's not one
through five, just your top five, it's not one through five.
Just okay, okay, okay, good, good, good, all right. I
got Steve Nash in there, I got Steph, I have Ai,
(29:59):
I got magic mm hmm, and I got oh Chris Paula.
That's a good call. I'm gonna put you on the
spot again. You're all time starting five, all time starting five,
all right, Steve Nash at the one mm hmmm, Um,
(30:23):
Kobe at the two, um Man Lebron at the three
here three, Um, I'm gonna put WHOA The four is tough.
I want to go KD number four at the four?
(30:43):
Uh Ei k D or kg Um. I'm gonna go
to KD though, and then who puts shock at the five?
Oh bosh, gotta finish with dieseler diesel Hey. But he left,
He went with the new shooting. He went with cob
over MG shooting guard. I'm not mad, Yeah, I'm not
(31:04):
not mad. I'm not mad. Man, go man, you got it,
you got it. So you're really cool with Equavo, right,
and you dropped the fifth piece of night that his
little thing at the arena. He also gave your ice
tray chain. You know what I mean? Okay, besides Quevo,
because I know that your boy artists and songs that
(31:25):
you have on repeat right now? What artists are song
you haven't repeat right now? Oh uh see, I'm a
big Jake Cole fan, big Jacob. I'm a big Meek fan.
I'm a big Drake fan. But I love Little Baby's
(31:51):
new album. Everybody does everybody mostly scars getting played, Um,
but those are I just like listening to certain artists.
I ain't gonna lie like I'm I'm big into R
and B slow jams, like like rappers, like rappers who
like tell stories and so yeah that R and B
(32:12):
is that that that that by racial in you? I'm
the same way. And that's that John be and and
who's one rapper or rappers you would like to hear
your name drop? You one rapper? Uh? If I had
to have someone name dropped me, Oh, that's tough, that's tough. Um,
(32:41):
jay Z oh he went back and we just had it.
We just had a job of rent on here. He
called jay Z old school. What I love to know.
I mean, but I understand, like y'all boys are young
for real, So them dudes are really like I mean,
if you look, if you really think about it, it is.
But it me and jack Off Garc was like, well damn,
(33:02):
we grew up with Jay but like that she just real.
She was real old school right now. So it's crazy,
it's crazy. I was talking to my dad. I was
talking to my dad the other day and we're doing comparisons,
and I'm like, your school, Like, I mean, my dad's like,
my dad's a just like how was your dad? Your
minds asking? So we have three He's like Jack yeah, yeah,
(33:25):
so he's like uh so he's uh um like his
his best player was Michael Jordans on the court, jay
Z and the music industry, and so for me, it's
like Lebron on the court, Lebron Lebron on the court,
and then you got i mean, Drake, you name it,
(33:47):
name it right. What I'm saying like, it's just two
different generations. I feel like this is this generation. I mean,
you see the best players of all time. You talked
about Jordan and braun m. I mean it's it's like
different generation. You know. Yeah, Top three handles of all time.
And you can throw yourself in that mix if you like,
who's top three handles of all time? Top three handles, Um,
(34:11):
gotta go is Kyrie's in there, m A is in there,
and then the O g rod stricklands in there. I'm
glad you know about my history. I did you know?
Did you know that's Kyrie's guard father. Yeah I knew that, Yes, sir, Yeah, yeah,
(34:33):
I mean we're gonna Matt Yeah, quick hitters man, We're
gonna first thing to come to mind. Answer, Go ahead, Jack?
Who should be a guest on All the Smoke? Who
do you think? And like we always say, whoever you say,
if you had a plug on who you who you
think should be on the show. You gotta fall through
with that plug. Yeah, you gotta fall through with it. Okay,
who I think you'd be on All the Smoke? I
(34:54):
think Joel and b that's gonna be nice, gonna be good. Yeah,
if you if you got that plug, plug us plug it.
He doesn't get a big fella yeah, hell yeah. Most
underrated player right now. Most underrated player, Um, Drew Holiday.
(35:17):
Everybody say Drew Holiday. Fact, everybody, everybody, everybody. We've got
Drew Holiday the most. We've had some people say c J. McCullough,
and we've had some people say Bradley Bill, But Drew
Holiday is the constant. Yeah, you at home right now
in quarantine? What you being watching? A couple of shows?
(35:40):
Ozart is one more. Yeah, so those are those are
the two I've I've watched I'm a big day you're
a big what stand up comedian? Okay, yeah, I like
watching hard Mike gets aw them because tech. Yeah, Dave
(36:02):
Chappelle stand up was good and then the Blue. I
gotta say, like, someone put me on Deon Cole's stand up?
Have you seen d I don't want to Ray. De
Ray stand up was cold to d Ray. Standard was
funny as a motherfucker. But Deon Cole check our Dean Coles.
(36:23):
If you ever seen the Standard? That ship was so funny.
Bro Um quarantine favorite quarantine snack, favorite quarantine snack, powdered doughnuts.
Jackie eating powder donuts, but he don't eat them. Jackie
looks to be looking like eating powder donuts, but you
don't even eat the powder donuts. No, damn Backwoods NBA
(36:48):
FLA has the most wag oh um de low Yeah,
if you can go back, maybe before you're born, maybe
just before you got to the league, and said courtside
to watch any two superstars go at it? What would
(37:10):
that matchup be towards any two superstars? Um? Good question.
I would watch that All Star game when Jordan and
Kobe played against each other. Was that Kobe's first second
All Star game. That was his Kobe showed out. Yeah,
that was his first one. That would have been what's
(37:34):
your favorite retro jersey? Uh? The the rats with the
with the dinosaur on the Damon Stodomer times. That's Carder times. Yeah.
One player that you didn't get a chance to play
against its retired that you wish you got a chance
to go head up with or against. Um uh hey,
(38:01):
i oh, that would have been a battle. That would
have been a batting boys would have been yanking each
other all over the quarter against the answer to hey man,
that's a wrap man, Trey, We appreciate your time, man,
Thank you for jumping on with us. Hopefully when all
this ship comes down, we have you come to the
studio really funk with us. Man. Of course, any time,
(38:22):
anytime appreciated, Stay safe, enjoy that family time. That's a
wrap man, All the Smoke Quarantine edition with our brother
Trey Young Jack. Great job, Trey. We appreciate you, bro.
You can catch this on Showtime Basketball, YouTube and all
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of person. On my high school team, we have five
guys make the NBA. We had the County Rock Act.
You mentioned Prince Shorts County. People know it's about it's
(39:19):
the meta of basketball. There are those who come before us,
upon whose shoulders we stay. We're here from this area.
You have to have tough scarre The gym became a sanctuary.
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