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March 3, 2025 38 mins
Called the Soul Food Scholar, Adrian Miller is renowned for his knowledge of African American and southern cooking. Author of multiple books, he won James Beard awards for two of them: Soul Food: The Surprising Story of an American Cuisine, One Plate at a Time, and Black Smoke: African Americans and the United States of Barbecue. Yet culinary history was not his original career path. He was a lawyer, worked for the Clinton White House, and then for the governor of Colorado, before turning to culinary research. His findings are profound and often surprising. Our conversation ranged far and wide – from the white historyof chitlins, to vegan soul food, the German origins of chicken and waffles, and how, in his words, mac and cheese became “so black.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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