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October 12, 2025 125 mins

Bret speaks with Nina Teicholz on the subject of seed oils.

Find Nina Teicholz on X at https://x.com/bigfatsurprise and on Substack at https://unsettledscience.substack.com.

Mentioned on this episode:

The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet by Nina Teicholz https://amzn.to/3WzaSYh (commission earned)

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