Revisiting ECW Hardcore TV 2000 Paul Heyman Shoots on TNN, Tony Mamaluke HISTORIC Debut, Rhino Defends TV Title Against The Sandman

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Balls are back in Welcome about the episode two and
ninety seven of the dead Lock podcast. We're back with
more ECW action for you. This week we're talking about
ECW on TNN from June second, two thousand of the
episode with Paul Hayman shoots on t and this is.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
A real shoot, cowboy, I let me tell you.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I mean, they had a real rivalry here and we're
we're we're talking about a little bit about it that
I didn't even know how it actually aired. Uh, the
rec dub project we got to see both sides of
what actually happened and what aired on the actual TNN program.
But before we get into that, let's get into some

(00:48):
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Balls Mahoney versus Masato Tanaka from Hardcore Heaven two thousand
of fun little match that we discovered and how James
described it is is wrestling at his purists. It's a
guy that uses a chair against a guy that gets

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what else do you need? Really?

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Speaker 4 (16:25):
All right, let's get into ECW on TNN for June second,
two thousand.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Sepe set Dupe sat Up. Yes, oddly enough, we've been
this somehow. It happened to work out pretty well. We
were gonna do this episode and we didn't realize that
this lined up with ECW Hardcore having two thousand, which
we actually just watched the match for on the Patreon,
the Bals Mahoney and Southotanaka match that's on our Patreon
the fight Dollar tier for watch this and things are

(16:54):
not looking great. I believe they've gotten word that they're
getting fucking canned here soon from TNN and Paul Handley
Aris's fuck a grievances on this one. But before we
get into the June second, two thousand episode of ECW
on TNN, let's talk about what was going on in
the world the wrestling at the time with the Wrestling
Observer newsletter from The Observer June fifth, two thousand, The

(17:15):
entire pro wrestling landscape is expected to change greatly over
the next few weeks, but there will be no such
thing as an intelligence speculation on how it's going to
end up. WWF is attempting to move its television from
USA Network to what would become a revamped TNN, with
Sunday Night Heat moving to MTV. This can affect the ECW,
which is also on TNN, in several different fashions, which

(17:35):
could either be the greatest break the company has ever
received or its absolute death sentence. Well, we see what
happened there. Ww's on the blocks with Ted Turner looking
to leave the Time Warner slash Alwall conglomerates. The wrestling
company which Turner has always fought to keep in the
family when outside offers came in or during downtime when
major executives suggested shutting it down, is no longer protecting it,

(17:56):
and it's coming at the worst time possible. As a
company is suffering from record losses. Exactly what will happen
with WCW at this point becomes a question. The company
is losing money at a far greater rate than it
did last year, when it still had strong buy rates
and strong attendance until the summer when the free fall
took hold and where it ended up losing an access
fifteen million dollars. I mean, you know, I guess companies

(18:19):
do run at losses for a billion years sometimes, but
I just can't. It just tansition crazy. Yeah, I mean
this shit always focks me up with like and I
guess you know, I've never been on that side of
like a major company like that. But the idea that
something that was so popular in my life was not profitable,
it just seems very odd to me because I would

(18:40):
buy it all this shit. I would buy figures by
Shitty Walmart will Fact shirt like.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, it was probably why I made all the money.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Well, it was all my name. Brother. Even though Hayman
insists he's not interested in selling a majority interest in ECW,
he also is recognized based on this past year, that
in order to compete with the two Monster promotions, he's
gonna need far more economic resources as well as a
stronger television outlet than he already has. The charm of
e CW at its best being the small time cult

(19:08):
thing just doesn't play well enough on a national basis
to provide enough revenue to keep much of the top
talent from leaving. Hayman also admitted that he's in a
precarious situation and that if they lose TNN, if PAN
wants exclusivity and easy doesn't get a new outlet, it
would be disastrous, which he was right, it is fucking disastrous, which,

(19:30):
like I mean Smelter's point, like yeah, like eas W
being like you know, the little fucking train that could
or whatever like was charmed to it. And again Little
Johnny had no idea how important TV was. I just
thought Easy to was cool. I would fucking go out
of my way to watch it no matter where I
was on. I was watching the you know, the Friday
local show or whatever. But like I guess you know,

(19:51):
when you're bleeding money like that and your only fucking
income really was whatever you were making on pay per
view and TV, like, yeah, they're fucked. In CZW news,
apparently the match comment Zone Wrestling is working on for
June twenty fifth and Philadelphia is promoter John zan Ding
That's what it says here and Terry Funk versus at
Sushi Onita and Dick Togo in a no rope electrified

(20:14):
barbier dynamite deathmatch. Zand Ding and the SEASONNA group returned
for their second tour with Big Japan this past week. Well,
I'll tell you that match doesn't fucking happen. But goddamn,
that sounds fucking sick as hell. I love to watch this. No, Like,
there's no way this wouldn't have been a fucking disaster though, Like.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
No, it would have been the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Though, right it would have been, yes, right, but like
czw's history of like explosives was even like in its heyday,
wasn't great. They weren't really doing explosive. They were doing
like glass and hip. So like no rope electrified, barbarire
dynam deathmatch, these guys might either it'd be the most
disappointing thing ever or like, legit, these guys die.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Was this supposed to be in America?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yes, in Philly.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Oh would have been able to save it or something,
but I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Know they would have booked it James and then Anita
would have shot.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
He sounds like that's kind of what happened anyways, Yeah,
that's fucking true. Did he show after the show?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
No, I don't think this match like doesn't it. I
don't think I Needa ever comes to season of until
the Trumont match, Like.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
They didn't announce that match then right, It was just like.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
No, I think, yeah, that's what they were trying to
get at yet, because I don't think funk or dic
to go works.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
How the hell did they hear about a rumored CZW
match that wasn't announced or booked? John Zanding just talking
to the boys else, sir, guess what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
We got a good idea in theory. You're here. But
thank you so much, Danson, get get that him up.
I think I'm working digging Terry.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Imber writing this down.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Before his name changes again.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Hey Meltzer, got a fucking good match.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
God, I'm sorry you booking the match? Well, no, no, no,
we haven't booked it, but god damn, sounds pretty good.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Dying sounds good. Good done? Do?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I gots just right that day?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, I guess I'll put that down here, John.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Thank you Meltzer.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I remember it's szy fucking w Meuser.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I got that right. Don't worry about that. The letters
are easy.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
In East w News, the latest on Raven is that
it doesn't appear he's in a hurry to leave, at
least not until August when his contract expires. Paul Hayman
did say he's giving Raven the chance to leave on
a positive note if he accepts the release of you's
trying to give him, but if not, he's going to
get fired rather quickly. At the tv TA beings in
Toledo over the weekend, Hayman had Raven lead out by
both Justin Credible and by Scotty Anton. I was confused

(23:27):
at how this is worded because it sounds like eastw
This definitely isn't what it is, but it sounds like
East of is like trying to fire him but they
can't for some reason.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
They like to do a deal, right, so they can't
get rid of him. They's just like.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That's what it sounds like. But like is like, have
has there ever been any wrestling contract that was like
that where like you just can't let it go unless
it was like Hogan or something like. Yeah, I love
the idea of Haymen. Can you can you leave Raven.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
To pay him? Right?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Isn't that the event kind of what happens?

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, also getting laid up by Justin Credible and Scottie Anton.
I mean, I'm sucking out of here, like are you clear?
Immediately that's fucking ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
He has heard about it happening in a couple of
weeks and big match coming up. I thought maybe you
could get into that one.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who's who's ever in that one.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Meltzer you hear about this Raven Katy's from the Bowery.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Maybe his voice, Scotty Anton come through.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
He does the clap, we got, we got Draven versus Oneita.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Got some dynamite like that's bunked on the sheet.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Absolutely not. But you write that down for me, write
that fucking.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Doubt I was coming now, like you gotta bucked No,
what don't Okay, I can't write it, joun all right, Sorry,
I got it, I got it right here. Sorry about that.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
He's fac fuck Lobo. What's his name, Billy Foz. He's
facing put down for fucking Billy Foz from Florida right now.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I got a fucking John Zoidberg. Get down. Wow, if
dir Cheeses were that fucking easy.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That he's the sick meltzer whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Sand thy harrassing Meltzer, just fantasy bucking ww news. Tammy
Sitch has been taking off nightro after an incident backstage
before the show. I'm sure this is shocking to everyone here.
So before the show, two of the other women working
in the company found syringes in a restroom adjacent to
the women's locker room with a vial of Newbane, a

(26:08):
painkilling drug that could have been anybody, as in recent
years become popular with some wrestlers and was a major
problem in the East w dressing room. Hey several months
back in the bathroom, and apparently it was linked to her.
She was described as being in very bad shape backstage
before the show, and it was said that before the
show she was in the same said bathroom. For an eternity.

(26:29):
She was supposed to do a catfight spot with Miss
Hancock on the show to set up a mixtag feud
with Chris and Tammy versus David and Miss Hancock, but
after Bischoff and Janie Engel were alerted, she was pulled
from the show and is believed she was ordered to
take a drug test the next day.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Surely she's innocent, Okay, okay, I won't smoke crack backstage and.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Whatever you woman to wrestle. David Flair hold on, I
got a drugs. The Chronic four nineteen T shirts are
because they aren't allowed to do four twenty t shirts
because it's a pot smoking reference, although the shirt says
got a minute on it as well, just in case
anybody didn't understand what chronic four nineteen event.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Also, where's the weed.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Dude, where is the fucking weed? Bring it to me immediately?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
They never smoked the weed? Where's the weed?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
They were like, did they even do a segment backstage
once where they came out of a smoky room or
anything like Rascal style? Like, what the fuck? How are
these guys weed guys at all? From The Observer, June twelve,
two thousand. This is a long bit here about the
ECW because Paul Hayman, who hadn't appeared at an ECB
event since Hardcore Heaven pay per view and after missing

(27:42):
the TV taping on June second at New Orleans, surprisingly
flew to Pensacola, Florida for the house show for a
lengthy ec TO team meeting. The one hour long meeting
was largely a pep talk, since most of the wrestlers
hadn't even spoken to Hayman in a month, and with
smaller crowds, slightly declining ratings, and late checks, morale had
hit a new Lowman went through a story about where
he saw the wrestling business in the US headed. The

(28:03):
theory he had was that WWF and USA Network would
settle their lawsuit before going to trial because both have
so much dirt on the other that that would come
out of court that both sides stock prices would drop
and suffer public embarrassment. At that point, he figured USA
Network would get a strong settlement and WWF would go
to CBS Viacom, moving raw to TNN on Monday nights.
He talked about the chance that would get on USA

(28:23):
Network or possibly Fox didn't fucking happen. Hayman also said
there was a possibility ww could be out of business
due to its money losses, leaving east W as the
number two company. The meeting wasn't all hearts and flowers,
either New Jack or Ball's. Mahoney asked Hayman about pay
per view bonuses. Meltzer says ECW hasn't paid any pay
per view bonuses in a long time. Hayman said the

(28:44):
money was on the way. Newjak then went to the window,
pointed to the sky and said that he could see
them coming. No, I remember this one, yeah, Hayman said,
if it was up to him, which it isn't, they
would go on Tuesdays to avoid the competition from Raw,
but he did say that they have no choice in
the manner and if it's decided they would be on Mondays.
He's hoping that they could do well enough on Monday
to convince whatever network they are on to move to Tuesdays.

(29:05):
But it's said that a lot of wrestlers in the
company are of the opinion that going on Monday's head
to head with Raw would be suicidal. I mean, people
should have learned that maybe ten years after. This is
why right Hayman claimed the reason the budget has been
cut so far back and the TV tapings haven't even
had television lights brought in the past two weeks is
that because TNN broke the promises that he said. He
claimed doesn't want to spend money to make the product

(29:25):
look good on TNN, he claimed there would be no
money trouble and also said he wants to get the
company out of debt by the fall, and said it
was because of the pay per view money trickles in
usually starting about ninety days after an event, and that
has caused the money to be short. I mean, we're
in June of two thousand, so like maybe it feels
like Hayman already knows here that it's fucking done right,

(29:46):
Like they're losing TV. Money's fucked. Like what do you do?
I don't know if you can do it?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Well, not really, I mean unless you can just be
like a like an andy, that's any Like that's all
he could do either get you could either be an
indy or let someone else take control of business. And
he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
No, he didn't want to give up any of that shit. Yeah,
I mean, which is weird because like from all accounts,
it sounds like he wasn't at like most of the
shit near the end, Like I don't even know if
he was going to shows, So maybe that was just
something in his brain, like he still wanted to have
hold of something here. But yeah, I mean the TNN
stuff seemed pretty rough, like it definitely was, and I

(30:25):
think you know, they talk about it in documentaries and all,
but like it was the thing that save VCW, but
it also ended up being the thing that killed them
going on tonnah, I don't know what else they would
have done. And last thing here in WCW News Lex
Luger and Elizabeth were sent home after refusing to do
the planned angles for them. At the five thirty Thunder tapings,
Luger was supposed to do a run in attacking Chuck Palumbo,

(30:47):
which would cause the DQ and Chronics tag title loss
to Palombo and Stasiac, where the title could change hands
via DQ. Of course, in the case of Elizabeth, there's
a good deal of sympathy in her direction because they
wanted her to be a wrestler and do a wrestling
match with Kimberly at the pay per view, evidently now
being switched to Kimberly versus Miss Hancock, and she was
never trained to be a wrestler. There's a lot less
sympathy for Luger, who didn't like the way he was

(31:07):
being booked with the program with Plumbo, who clearly isn't ready.
But then again, Luger Meltzer says, was once in plumbo shoes,
is being pushed long before he was ready, and all
the veterans of that era put him over Strong because
everyone thought he would potentially be nex Hogan, which he
never turned out to be. So fucking Luger doesn't want
to put over chug Palombo. I mean that guy is money.

(31:32):
I would fucking but.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I would make that guy the undertaker.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
All of them.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Can you be like give Palombo his own ministry.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
I'd give that man a motorcycle now.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
And a blonde wifeish and he does the last ride. Well,
is it for the observer portion of this show? And
now it's time to talk about W and TNN. June second,
two thousand, all right.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
So we start with the code open here. ECW's code
opens are Joey and Joel standing in the ring saying hello,
welcome the crowd.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Super fucking hot every time here. I mean they you
gotta give it to him. The ECW crowd wanted this
shit to be the coolest shit ever, and it felt
like it, even when the shows were not the coolest
shit though. I did like this episode, but more so
than the pay review that just happened. This felt cool
as fuck. And we're in Toledo, Ohio for this one.
Joey welcomes us to ECW, and it took me a

(32:36):
good like minute to realize that Raven is just fucking
sitting in the ring here too. Like I didn't notice
him for a while.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
He was just chilling in the corner, and while they're
doing the intro, it'sah, he's.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Just hanging out, and Joey says, welcome to ECW on
the only network that prefers possum as pie filling TNN,
What the fuck does that mean?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
They're redd meg? Really, you never had possum pie, never
had no, no, not a right night, I guess not.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Joey says, I'm Joey Styles, and Joel Gertner says, well, well, WHOA,
I don't have a line tonight. Boo, dude, crowd was
fucking pissed. You better you better say you fuck pussy.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I paid to see this line. You better say the
fucking line.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Give me a creepy pie line now, bitch.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
So Joel grabs the mic and says, does anyone like pussy?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yes? Dump so Joel says, Joey, I don't have a
line tonight. I didn't think of one during my airline flight.
But if I didn't do a nickname, it just wouldn't
be right. And the girls I fuck in Toledo are
always nice, said night Girtner. He fucks chrisy So. Joey

(34:09):
then looks over at Raven. He's a little confused and says,
you know, at this time, we're gonna attempt to get
some uninterrupted comments from Raven. So Joey walks over. It's confused,
and he sits down next to Raven and says, this
is a little strange, so run with it, and then
Raven of course does a Raven promo on just Incredible. Man.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Oh sorry, yeah, I mean it's awesome. Sorry, yeah, this
is the new Stone Cold, dude, not even just incredible.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
When you think that that's not stone, that's not even cold.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's just Raven says. They say imitation is the sincerest
form of flattery. Well, just incredible. You stole my Look,
you stole my girl, you stole my title. This is
what the Undertaker said about you took. All the crowd

(35:12):
is chanting justin Asshole, which I understand what they're going for,
but his name is not just add so they're chanting
just in asshole.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, he's just in an asshole.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Right, It's not bad. It's like a poop h. Raymond says,
just a bunch of fucking bullshit. So it is written
and so it shall come to pass. And then Just
In Credible's music hits Oh my fucking god. And I
didn't realize now that uh Joel Gertner is also sitting
with them. He's not participating in the interview. He's just
sitting with Joey on the floor. So justin Credible comes out,

(35:49):
he's easy to be champion. He's with fucking Francine looking incredible,
just incredible, and Raven says, get in the ring, bitch,
and Francene goes to get in and Raymond says, not you.
I'm talking about the bitch with the belt. Holy fucking ship. Wow,
he really got his ass ed.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
He ed this whole, this man's whole career right here and.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Shut the company down, split his boots.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Right out, throw the building.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I actually, I actually liked this.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
No, it was funny.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
There's a great camera shot that that they get.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
It's behind just Incredible and France scene as France scene
is riffing at Raven and uh Credible was hiding behind
France scene as he comes out, which is very funny.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Of course he's an asshole.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
And the way the camera shot is, it's looking up
at Raven and Raven's looking at both of them, and
the first person in shot is France scene.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So trying to get in the ring. Yeah, very good.
I thought he assume that's what he's talking about. Yeah,
it worked out pretty well. You're right they I mean
we talked about it before. James, like he said his
camera work was fucking cool ship.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, they made it work.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Justin credible does get in the ring and Raven fucking
stomps the mountain immediately whips him off. Raven drop kick.
I was fucking stunned by this. Francine gets in and
immediately drops her knees and fends off as Raven grabs
her hair. But Francine then low blows him and just
incredible fucking keans the shit out of Raven a few
times and hits that that's incredible spinning tombstone, which is

(37:22):
a fucking fantastic finish. I have to say I love
that move.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, I think it's cool too.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, sick as fuck.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I think it's funny that Raven sat in the corner
early to get.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
His ass whooked.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean, like he watched them come out like he
like he didn't know that Franci was gonna love blow
him too. No dictation to this U and of course
making the save here Tommy Dreamer Tommy Dreamer runs out
and cuts you know, they Francine and fucking just incredible powder.
But Dreamer doesn't just stay in the ring. He gets

(37:53):
out of the ring and cuts Justin off at the
ramp and starts attacking him, which I thought was cool.
But even cooler, the thing that made this segment for
me was the man that comes out to jump Raven
and that is the US male, Scotty Antond Baby, Holy shit,
the US.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Male Scotty Anton is the funniest nickname for a dude coming.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
It sounds like a tn A name.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Sounds like a guy that's not winning ever.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
But US male is funniest fun The US male is
in the impact zone, That's what really.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
And of course he's also in Cyrus and DNA.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I imagine there.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
You're probably right.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
So Scotty answer for those who don't know, was one
half of the American Male Scotty Riggs h and he's
just now he he just turned on RVD at the
pay per view. He was already's friend, that was his
character at the moment here and he turned on RVD
and he joined the network. So he's here with Cyrus
the virus. Don Kallis for those that don't know, and
they're fucking kicking Raven's ass, and Scotty anton is doing

(38:53):
the American Mail Club all by himself, which is his gimmick.
Of course, I love.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
He looked at the opposite side and then Cyrus said, look,
heartcam's over here, and then he turned it around and clap.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Cyrus says, wait, wait as Scotty stopping him out, and
he starts stopping out raving himself, and the referee H.
C Loak, which is the referee's name, gets involved here
and tries to stop them, and Cyrus says, what do
you think you're doing? What are you doing to you idiot?
I'm the network and referee hc Loake he says, I'm
standing up to the network, and then the US Mail

(39:31):
Scotty Antony punches on the back of the head and
then stops the shit out of him and puts on
a sharp shooter.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Joey Stole says his version of the sharp shooter.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He was gonna like name it, but like he just says,
yeah this, oh that's his version of the sharp shooter. Okay.
So Cyrus is fucking yelling at H. C loc who's
in the sharp shoot, and he says, you want to
give up, go on, your little bastard, and he slaps
him the head, and then he stands up and says,
let me remind every one that we're here tonight to
give you the clap, and Cyrus fucking starts doing the

(40:06):
American mails clap and then looks at Scotty Anton and says,
come on, kid, that's your gimmick. Show me your gimmick.
He do this, Scotti it doing the clap again. Joel
Gertner on commentary says, I don't want to see his gimmick.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Dude, I think I commentary they say his gimmick shameless
even for this network.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
That's fucking awesome. I mean I don't he doesn't have
a long run here, Scotty Anton. But this is.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Funny how the company, Scotty.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Anton, the US male does the clap.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
He's gonna give you the clap.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
That is fucking funny.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Is funny?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Is that gimmick is the top feud by the way, Tony,
this is the world, the network is the top heel group.
This is the world title. We just had justin Krediv
was the world champion. Just everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Tender then, I guess, and he's getting beat up by
the fucking US Mail.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
By the US Postal Service. They say at one point
here going postal at the hands of the US Mail.
I thought that was funny.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh because mail, right, US Mail.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's why they.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Toy where he gives you a fucking sex disease.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Like, that's that's right.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
The clap good, gim gimmick.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Kid, come on the even now has the clap? Uh?
And I mean that's where we go from here.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Fuck this, I can't believe that, Like Paul Hayman didn't
just see Hate Club and be like, all right, Hate
Club's come in and they're attacking, fucking just incredible, Like
I don't know what to tell.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
You that fucking doing double pile driver's tool dude. Yeah,
Hatred is eating pussy on TV now, I mean, just
buy c c W right like that, go to the
next level, dude.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I guarantee he offered them a crazy amount of money
compared to what they were getting at CZW, and they
would have done it.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I imagine that sandwich.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I imagine they liked ECW.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Like I'm sure it's obviously they were I'm sure super
loyal to fucking zan Ding though, but like.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I'm sure like he could have had Zandig come into
why not at the very least he could have offered
him like you know, hey, well.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
We'll say this is CZW like.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
His invading or something, you know, like yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
What's the worst that could happen?

Speaker 4 (42:31):
You got a bunch of really cool dudes that are
willing to do some really crazy ship that like, dude,
e c W wasn't doing.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
XPW would have been fucking mad.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Oh it would have fucking it would have made them
even like yeah, dude, I mean it would have it
would have changed I think it would have changed a
lot of things.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Really that would have been fun of ship. Though I'd
never even considered that that he could have, just because
for some reason, like and it probably in the minds
of a lot of people, like the timeline of CW
and ECW, like they didn't exist at the same time,
but they did.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
They did, and they were doing like was CZW is
like crazy run right there was then going to BJW
and coming back and like like two thousand and two
was like when they were the craziest.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, like and this is what two thousands So like
they you know, had some sts not obviously not like
a lot, but there was definitely like news fucking Nick
Monda was still there. Dude, Mondo was just coming in.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, like just like just wrestling. Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
He's not even sick yet. Slick slick Nick Mondo.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Yeah, like that would have changed some ship would have
been pretty interesting. I can see like they were probably
just starting to get some steeves, so maybe there wasn't
a lot of Like I'm sure Hayman was more so
trying to worry about how do I pay people?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
And not sure, but way to pay people is the
pay guys that don't want a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I think Dandy did do the w XO. Remember he
was on right, Yeah, I can't forget that well.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I think also like Hayman was getting away from the
more like super hardcore stuff, like they weren't doing the
same They weren't doing barbed wire, no where, barbire matches.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Towards the end, they weren't doing like fire matches.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Or anything like if they were, it was just on
pay per view and like they but like.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I think Hayman said, like if ECW would have kept
going that they would have gotten away from the hardcore
stuff and they've gone have gone in the way of
Ring of.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Honor, which would have been cool shit too.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Uh Yeah, it would have been interesting see where they
could pull off with that.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
C W Anderson on top Haye Club coming in?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Would it chose that company forever?

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Well?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
How fucking owes because they would have went nuts to
like you know, they'd like do everything.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Dude, Oh my fucking god, because Steve Kreno becomes champed.
If Steve Kreno was champ and club invades, wow, would
have changed everything.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
That would have been fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Yeah, because they could have had guys from ECW go
to CZW would have done good business.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah ah ah, you're hitting me right in the fucking
heart right now, buddy.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Wow. Am So we get the ECW intro here.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Who fucking made this, like specifically the big letters and shit,
like whoever made this, find them and bring them to me.
Like this ship is fucking medial fu Yeah, like we
need this, like or if somebody can do this, this
is like so fucking cool. This intro is just super awesome,
Like what a cool feel this place had. We've talked

(45:27):
about it before, but like this intro, not many wrestling
companies have had this. But East of having their own
song the it was the East w song is cool
as fuck? You know who also had their own song
Fucking Seasy the other day. Definitely, at some point it

(45:50):
just sounds like if the South Park guys, we're fucking
doing a wrestling song area.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, it definitely does sound like.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
With the bass boosted. Yeah, it's nuts.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
So we got backstage, Guido and Big Sally Sandwiches are
chilling by the doors.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Go has Big Sally Graziano. Yeah, they're chilling by the doors,
is literally what's happening? Like Little Guido's getting a pump
and they're by the I guess doors to get into
the building. And Big Sal is all fucked up, like
his whole head's wrapped up. He has an eye patch
over one eye, he can barely see out of his
other eye, and he's pissed. He says Whipbreck is dead.

(46:27):
And then Tony Mama Luke not named Tony Mama Luke yet,
this is still Tony Marinera from WCW. Tony fucking Marinara
walks in and immediately Big Sal turns, reaches his hand
out and grips him by his neck and says, seems
like you're in the wrong company, Jack, and you picked
the wrong day to piss me off. This is his

(46:50):
first time walking into the building. He's in gear, by
the way, and he gets gripped up by fucking big
sal immediately. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
He hits the door and poses. It's very funny.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
And if you stop, if you stop the video at
the right time, you can see big Sally sandwiches big
ass a hand right over his throat. It is so
fucking funny.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Mid pos. Yeah, that's so fucking sick. So fucking Tony
Marinara is getting goozled, and let's go on finally, and
Tony Mariner walks up to the Little Guido and says, hey, Paison,
and Little Guido takes his fucking super personally. He says, Paison,
you ain't no Paison. You're a cheap ripoff of my
Italian heritage. Tony Mariner says, I never took nothing from nobody.

(47:34):
I'm full blooded, which I was like, oh wow, this
is I couldn't believe that I was watching Tony. Mama
Luke's like, shoot debut here. Yeah, first time ever.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Yeah. So he was in w CW as we saw,
and I think he only had that little bit and
then they let him go.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah yeah, which odd. I guess they gave his role
with the the Disco Inferno.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Did they kill him on WCW. I feel like they.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Killed ah man.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I gotta look now, hold.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
On, Yeah, I feel like they made him sleep.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
With the Fishes.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
His last appearance came at the two thousand sold up
every year. In an interview with Gino claim, he said
he had to take care of some business and then left.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
That is awesome. Wow, I gotta go sleep with the Fishes.
I'll be right back with the Fishes, also known as
joining e c W two thousand same thing, suicide.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
For sure, the fishes and good easy.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
The same difference.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Wow, that is so funny.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Well shit, So Guido says, you're full blood Italian. Let's
see how full blood Italian you are. I got something
for you. Let's see if you can handle it, Buyson.
So Guido fucking leaves and Tony Marinara starts getting fired up,
and he start doing curls with the bands, and he
keeps for beating unful blooded, unful blooded, unful blooded. He's
getting himself fired up because he's gotta he's got he's

(49:08):
gotta drop himself on his fucking head.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Well, so Joey Styles is on commentary and he says,
wasn't that Tony Marenia from w c W.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Dude, he says, w CW so crazy? Yeah, wasn't that
kid Tony Marinair from in w c W.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
You're telling me he jumped just to be Little Guino's understudy.
And Joel Gertner says, I wouldn't know. I stopped lotching WM.
Sorry to watch, That's what Jody says, and Joey Styles says,
kid Cash But so this match, by the way, kid
Cash versus Baldy Grimes, which is of course Vic Grimes,

(49:51):
and he's facing kid Cash here, and Joey says, kid
Cash has been racking up a string of victories, but
he's giving up two hundred pounds to Grimes of the
Baldis's an interesting thing singles match here between the two.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah. So uh, he saw Vic Grimes at Hardcore having
get hip tossed onto the ground from the ramp and
then he got splashed by Amish roadkill through.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
A table Almas Roadkill coming from the middle of the
top rope by the way, doing the Almage Roadkill dive
to the floor and crushed him. That was I mean,
Grimes was a run in on this match. He came out,
got hip tossed off the stage to Conroy and put
through a table.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah, he came out there and then almost Roadkill kicked
his fucking ass, which is.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Kind of awesome.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
So yeah, we got kick Cash versus Vic Grimes. Cash
hits two ranas off the rip here, goes for a
third but ends up slipping and lands right on his neck.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Springboard moonsalt attempt or like maybe a spring back rana
Maybe that's probably a better shout, but dude slips and
like he dies, I mean he lands right on his
fucking head. You fucked up, chance, which is right, that's
what you should be doing, because like he fucked up.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
So Vig Grimes then catches him, hits them with a
running crucifix bomb or what do you want to call it?

Speaker 1 (51:12):
The fucking Lance Archer move right, uh blackout the blackout? Yeah, yeah,
set up for it was like kind of crazy though,
like he like sits out with it. Lance Archer never
hit it like this. This was awesome.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Yeah, and then he hits a one eighty leg drop.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Oh my, he doesn't want any leg drop and Joey
Style says, you know, people don't give Grimes credit. They
think he just throws himself off the Balcony's trying to
emulate new dragged foreigner bounce was the last bag.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
So kid Cash wins Grimes to the corner. He takes
the sergeant slaughter bump. Cash then goes to the apron
and hits a fucking reverse springboard sent.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
On top rope, spinning blonde job.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Cash then goes up for a diving cross body in
the ring, but Grimes catches him with the Grimes cutter
out of mid air.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Dude it and even better, Grimes the moves guy has
Cash in the corner. It goes on the second and
then jumps off and sucks.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Joel said, give it infreshment.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Like the bitter bomb with his face.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Vic Grimes has the Vader bomb head butt to his
dick and balls.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Cash then hits a rolling rana. It goes for another
one here, but Grimes then tosses him up behind him
and hits a gory bomb.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Dude Ali oop gory bomb, give him the title, take
it off.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Just incredible. Give me.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
I'm begging for Vic Grimes versus killed dude.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
They had to have happened once, right, I know that
was gas. Oh my god, those dudes can't stop doing moves.
So like, Vic Grimes and Almas roadkill are the guys
goats man.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
I have no idea how that gory bomb move ended
up working, but it doesn't make sense. This kid, Cash
you Okay, So Grimes cuts himself off by missing a
flipping sent on from the top. Anytime I've ever seen
Vic Grimes get cut off, it's from a flipping sent

(53:37):
on from the top. Do you know what that's every
single time? Cash then victory rolls Vic Grimes and wins.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I and I enjoyed watching this match, Like, I mean,
ship was all over the place, but I loved it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
The Vader bomb head butt to the dick and balls,
it was so nuts, like not what I expected at all.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Out of that he does like this is after him
doing catch cutter. He's just the fucking blackout, Like they're
doing crazy, crazy moves here, and then he does Vader
bob to the guy.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
And he has his own he has his own signature bomb.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
The slaughter over the road, so I thought that was funny.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
And the future the Biggest Falcony.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
He's a shame if he did one of those scaffold
matches and he was scared.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Watch watch the third book.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I'd tell you yeah, I would. Uh, that would suck
if there was a bunch of tables for them to
go through. Miss.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
So we go to a pre tape.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
It shows clips of Sandman in slow motion black and
white to build up for him versus Rhino tonight.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
What did you think of this? Because I thought this
was weird.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Yeah, I didn't understand what I was looking at it first.
I thought it was a memorial service or something.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
But it does okay because it's like set to like
classical music kind of like it's in the shots of
Sandman and I'm showing like ship of that happened with
him in Rhino at Hardcore Heaven and like I legit
have done. Why the fuck is this being presented this way?
Like this didn't make me. This wasn't like an intense
build up here. This is like, like you said, it
felt like a memorialm yeah right.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
It showed Sam and hitting a pile Driver on Rhino
and the hardcore heaven.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Stuff, Rhino pile driving his wife off the apron slow
motion black and white to classical music.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
I love the idea that anytime you face like Rhino
or something, and you might do something to him, like
you might beat him or hit him with something, and
then he just goes one hundred percent like crash out immediately,
just pile drives your wife through a dayfall family.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
Hey, you don't do that, I'm gonna Oh no.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
That's not what I was trying to do. I was
just trying to win to that.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, yeah, well, here's a clean finish against Rhino bomb
your Hey.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Oh, here's righta goring his wife and fucking Samon to
a table.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Okay, here's making Tony Mariner asleep with the visus.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
That's that'sird hell's going on. So we go backstage. Johnny
Swinger is flexing, putting on baby oil, and Simon Diamond
comes in here because he has a problem.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Simon does have a problem. Simon Diamond comes through the
door looking for Johnny Swinger and I know this because
out loud he's saying, Swinger, where are you? But he
comes to the door Johnny Swinger couldn't be standing anymore
in front of the door, and Simon Diamon's looking everywhere
butt straight as he's looking like at the floor underneath
the door.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
His head's not straight because he has a problem.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Well, he does walk up and indicate that James. He says,
Simon has a problem. You're not Oh my god, sorry, Simon, fine,
Simon has a problem. No yet, it was never sadly
that important of a problem that for patticking. Yeah, no,
it was always a bullshit well he was. He had

(57:09):
a You got a right to be upset here. Simon
has a problem. You're not even dressed. We have a
match tonight. We didn't have a strategy session. I have
to tell you everything.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
They did not have a match tonight.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
They oh my god, that's.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Talking about they were gonna have a match, but.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
You know, oh must have got replied, has a problem.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
We're not gonna get our fucking money tonight because you're.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Not dressed up for Russell, Simon has another problem. Weren't
gonna get money regardless. That sucks.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Yeah, that's a huge problem. Actually, yeah, hey, e c
W actually has a problem.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
We should have.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Gone a business is six months, Musketeer, I'm sorry, we
can't pay you to night Bell. Did club.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Fuck e C dub Hey club front of G in
front of Jenner leave it to join a club too?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Oh, my fucking god.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
So Simon says he has problem obviously, and he looks
over and Simon and Simon Diamond says. Simon says, turned
off the fan. Jeeves is standing there behind a big
oscillating fan and Jeeves turns it off. Jeeves is one
of the stuges here. Oh, what's the name of this
fucking group, James the Sideshow Freaks Side Show Freaks. I
have never heard the referred to as this, but I

(58:32):
believe this to be true and it is accurate. So
like all of Simon Diamond's goons, including Johnny Swinger and
Jeeves and Musketeer and Simon Diamond, is Simon Diamond in
the side Show Freaks? I think, so okay, well this yes,
so Simon Diamond's group it's called the side Shows. So
Simon says, what are you doing? And Johnny Swigers says,

(58:53):
I'm posing for one of my biggest fans, and Simon says, listen, man,
I'm the Princess operation. I'll tell you what to do,
and you do it, and Johnny Sunger stops them and
has Jeeves turned the fan back on and he looks
at Simon Diamond and says, can't you see that My
fan is blowing me?

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Let me tell you guys something. This is actually the.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Way this is filmed is actually so fucking funny like this, Yeah,
the the way this is all shown on screen has
done very well because one, if you don't know who
these guys are, the people that continue to show up
on the screen during this segment makes this seem like
a Simpson skit or something.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I mean, it's unreal.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Yeah, like the actually nuts. Even if you've seen ECW,
you probably still have no idea what this group is,
what their aspirations, their goals are, or what their fucking
name is because I didn't know it was sideshow freaks
for a while.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Dude, I didn't know Prodigy and Prodigy at ever.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah, and we learned their gimmicks. We learned everything here,
but we had to look it up. It took a while.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
So yeah, like seeing all this play out is so
fucking funny. If someone I guess maybe on the Patriot
on or whatever, the case watched this episode before this release,
like the book Club thing, and this is the first
time they've ever seen the c DEVO.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Oh shit, that must be jarring. Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, they're probably like, what the fuck am I looking.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
At because it's Johnny's Swinger sitting there putting on oil.
And then the camera pants back to the left and
there's a butler named Jeeves and he's holding the controls
to a large fan, and then it goes back to
Simon Diamond and Johnny Swinger and then it goes back

(01:00:33):
out to the fan and then the Musketeer shows.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Up, which is the Musketeer is by his name a musketeer,
and he runs up and he's going and he starts
swinging a sword at the fan, telling Simon Diamond stand back, Simon,
I'll protect you. And then Johnny Swinger oiling, turns to
the musketeer who is fighting an oscillating fan for Simon

(01:00:59):
die and Johnny Swinger looks him and stops him and says,
don't sing it, swing it, and then Johnny Swinger walks
away with Jeeves, and now Jeeves is now holding an
umbrella over his head butler style. Simon Diamond that says, oh, no, wonder,
I always have a problem. Then we see Prodigy and Prodijet,

(01:01:22):
who were just a guy and a girl in the
same exact black trunks and top, and Prodigjets saying this
is disgusting this oil. Are we supposed to stay on it? Besides, Simon,
that is disgusting. How the fun So Johnny Swinger made
Prodigy and Prodigjet also oil up off screen?

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
No, no, I think what ended up happening was the
fan was pushing the oil backwards. Okay, yes, it would
be funny if he told them to oil up with
their shirts on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I thought it was, and I thought Simon and Diamond
somehow didn't see this when he walked in when he
was looking for Johnny Swinger.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Yeah, Prodigy and Prodiget, which I just learned their names.
They have a gimmick where one of them speaks English
the other one speaks Spanish. But they're supposed to be
like the same person kind of, but they don't speak
the same language, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
They're they're a male and female version of the same person.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
Right, but they don't speak the same language, which is
I mean also just it literally sounds like this this
is a same thing, Like this is like legit, like
a Simpson. Every character here is from the substance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
It feels like that's so funny that you framed it
like that. I can't imagine, like I already I knew
of this, so it wasn't as jarring. I can't imagine
that big Like someone's first time seeing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
This and you think you're gonna see him in a
match or something, and you don't. They say, the only
time you ever see these guys is when Simon Diamond
is getting his kicked by Jazz.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
You're right, Holy fucking shit, you're right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Yeah, Simon comes out Sideon has a problem and the
Jazz comes out and the whoops his ass.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Give cash is probably there too sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Yeah man, so uh yeah, just a crazy group here.
I don't know if I've ever read anything about this
group or anything. I've never heard about any like creative anything, like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
All the idea behind it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Yeah, Like like I was telling you, I was reading
about like how Danny Doring and Amish roadkill, Like what
the gimmick was supposed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
To be supposed to like porn guys, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Yeah, it was supposed to be like a comedy porn
thing but I ended up not being so they just
ended up being a guy with his alma's friend, which
is fucking super funny. Actually, yeah, that's actually super funny.
But yeah, I wonder what the idea was for this
one or where they got the inspiration from this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
From when he's asked Simon Diamond.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Yeah, I mean he probably. I mean he kind of
stuck with this gimmick and character for the rest of
his wrestling career.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I mean, what a good gimmick. Simon has a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Because him and Johnny Swinger TNA tag jumps I swear.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
A fucking New York connection or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Right, why the fuck did TNA just do this?

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I'm sure Jeeves would have loved to pay day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Holy I mean, Johnny Swinger's still doing this in TNA
now he've been Diamonds somehow.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
So we got Tony Mama Luke versus Mikey Whipwreck up next.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Yes, uh, And we see last week on ECW, Big
sal Grasiano came out of a door and he gripped
senasor Minister James Mitchell and he choked him up against
the wall because they've been having some issues, I'm assuming
from all of the wrap around his head and eye patches.
That they have been fireballing this guy to death, which

(01:04:50):
is super funny, which is fucking hilarious because in this
backstage segment where he already has an eye patch, is
gripped citis for minister up and choking up against the wall.
It's says all, big funny guy wars Whipbrack, we're play
with fire come on. Well, all of a sudden, off
screen of fireball hits him in the face. Mikey whipbreak

(01:05:12):
yeah so and Citason Manterson says, you know, Mikey, I
tell you to take a leak on him, but you
might put out the fire. I mean, this has been
at least four weeks of them hitting Big sal Graziano,
who is a huge Italian man that likes pizza. They've
been throwing fireballs into his face for weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
So he's gotta be he's gotta be like permanently blinded.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
By this point, I'd be like, how does he have eyes?

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
I remember we were watching hardcore Heaven. He got fireball again.
He already had the eye patch on at the Fairview.
He got fireball again. Our thought was, Oh, he's gonna
be blind in both eyes, but they just keep fire
balling the one eye.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Somehow it gets through the eye patch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yeah, that's super funny.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
It just makes me think they should do this with everything,
Like I've never really thought about that, I guess, but like,
what if you just powdered somebody's eyes like every single
time they wrestled, like every single time you see them,
they get powder in the eyes. Like okay, like we
beat you, We beat you with the powder, and then
you do a backstage segment and we come up and

(01:06:16):
we thought of you a gig.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Holy fuck, I'm sick of sh powder. Go to the
go to the fucking parking lot, fucking get in your car.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Powder.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
It's like with fireboxes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Just funks up your close every day mother, super dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
They're just convene like inconvenience to give a lot by
third powder.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
And I mean the idea of a man being fireballed
to death continually.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
It's very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
And we talked about this before. Doing anything like that
with a large man is hilarious, very similar to uh
Fred Ottman in cars.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
If you want a fireball, like a normal dude, it
would have been whatever, but big salash massive it likes pizza.
They fucking which is important to the Fireball lad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Cell Bill gets a little car gets stuck and they
run up and just continuously Fireball, you can't get out
of They.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
Should have him, like have a wedding or something and
he's getting married. Is there anyone that objects?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Oh the guy a check And then Mikey runs up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
A fire.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I'll you're with this sullly shit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Mikey takes over early with a line and a flapjack.
Mikey has a leg drop over the top of rope
to the apron on Mama Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Mama Luke goes for a kid cash flip on Mikey
on the outside and just ends up landing in the
fucking audience.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Dude. He springboards from the apron off the second rope
for a spinning pluncha and like I swear to God,
I mean I swear, the back of his head hits
the guardrail. Dude, he does. He could have died. This
is like one of the scariest things I've ever seen
and it's just in the middle of this fucking ECW show.

(01:08:12):
He spinning flips trying to attack Mikey whipwreck completely misses
and smashes his head and neck into the guardrail and
also lands on people like real fans in the front row.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
That was a scary shit. Ever, like his debut, he
lands on his head in the crowd is the most
insane thing ever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
And walks away and smiles.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Look at this guy, dude, Jose them. Yeah. I mean
this match probably got him a job for life. I
mean he went for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
He did go for six months.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah, at least nine, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Yeah, can you can work here forever? Whatever?

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Don't worry, brother, he won the right tag titles.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
He was the best of the best as well as
this threw me off crazy. So I'm staring at this Tony.
Mama Luke spinning flip off the second into the guardrail,
dies crowd. I'm looking over to the side. I don't
know if you guys saw this. There was a sign
that says little Guido eats corn the long way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
No, I did not see that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I did not fucking believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Ude, because I played this to watch the bump again
of him flying in the crowd, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
That's what happened to me, Tony. I fucking saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I saw yeah, and I saw the sign and it
was the same guy. It was the Goldberg guy because
he drew He drew the corn on the side of
the sign. It's the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Leude, So Tony Mama, Luke fucking dies here and Joey
Style says, holy shit, and Joe Gertner says, what the
hell you got her mouth? You can't say shit on TNN?
What the fuck are you thinking? That gets beep, It
gets leave every time. Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
So yeah, the match ends with Mikey hitting the Unholy
Driver for the three.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Yeah, that's that's what that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Move is, dude. Okay, what a gnarly move. It's like
double underhook into dominator into angels wings, like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Yeah, just face first, you're gonna die.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Land on your head, that's it. Yeah, I mean it's
not like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Letting the arms go either. He dumps him on his
fucking forehead like this is a finisher.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
So Guido comes in after the match and attacks Mikey.
Mikey ends up hitting the whipper Snapper on Guido and
then gets him up for the Sinister Minister to use
the fireball on him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
But because he's a goddamn Guido.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Thankfully, Big sal makes a safe, he's sick of the fireball.
Uh So Big salvates the save and grabs Sinister Minister.
So Mikey Powder's Big Sal it is good, which is
so fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Funny, dude. I see Mikey walking into the ring and
Powder's like falling on the ground as He's trying to
set this up up, like oh no, and he turns
Big Sel around fucking powders him in the eyes. I said,
holy shit. Then Mikey throws Tony Mameluke into Big Sal
and Big Sel then proceeds to not only hit him
with a sidewalk slam, but then Big Sow, blinded picks

(01:11:25):
Tony Mamluke up, puts him over his head gorilla press
style and throws him into the fucking ground.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
He does this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
This is so fucking funny, Like the sidewalk slam was
enough him still not knowing that it's not fucking Mikey
Whiprick picking him back up gorilla press and launching him
into the crowd is like unbelievable. Visual got his ass
this match, he earned. He earned his six to nine
months here at e c W.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
So backstage, Sinister Minister is here with Mikey and he
talks about the sins that he likes and doesn't like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
He's an expert on sinning. There's some sins I like
and uh more than others, like gluttony. Now, Big Sally
Graziano pretty clod to me that you're a glutton. Hey,
but I'm not discussing your ravenous appetite. You're a glutton
for punishment. Every time Mikey Whippreck gets in striking distance

(01:12:27):
of you, there's a four alarm fire. He's burned your
face three times. And on the other hand, there's some
sins I refuse to grant absolution to, and one of
those is stupidity, Big Sal, you showed the world that
you were pretty stupid when you put your hands on me.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Stupid sin.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I didn't know that until now, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
So is that that is that one of the seven
sinsid one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Of the seven deadly sins is biga dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
As can't be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Yeah, he makes up sins. You know he's sinister, Minister.
You can do it and say whatever he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Uh, Senator Minister says, Big Sal. You show the world
you're pretty still what you put your hands on me.
And the next time you do a big boy, You're
gonna find out the meaning of the term spontaneous human combustion.
And mike Whipbreck is offended by this, and he says, listen,
you blowing smoke up my ass again, compadre, I told
you there's no such thing as spontaneous human combustion. And
Senator Minister looks at Mike and says, liar, liar, pants

(01:13:22):
on fire, And then Senator Minister Mikey's sitting in a
chair next to him. Senator Minister leans down with a
lighter and sets the chair on fire, which also sets
Mikey Whipbreck's ass on fire. So he's now running around
with his ass on fire. There's a chair on fire.
Senator Minister is laughing his fucking head off, and he says,

(01:13:43):
not only does Mikey get spiritual gndance from you, truly,
I light a fire under his ass too, and Mikey
offscreen is laughing and yelling it's burning my flesh. This
is fucking like, this is the most easy to me
two thousand episode possibly ever, Like, this is fucking crazy
to watch. If I keep going back to if this

(01:14:04):
is someone's first time watching this, this must be a
culture shot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah right, Why did he light mikey whipbrick on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
His ass specifically?

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
So we go to a pre tape and it's Paul Hayman.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Oh boy, So I'm gonna go through what happens here,
but I want you all to know that what I'm
about to tell you did not air, so like TNN
censored this whole thing. So they show Paul ham like
how it actually aired on TNN is they show Paul
Hayman in front of the backdrop and him cutting an
entire promo and then there's scrolling text shitting on him,

(01:14:41):
and I'll talk about that at the end. Here Paul
Hayman says, my name is Paul Hayman. Since this show
is apparently gonna make air this week, I like to
take this moment to thank you for watching ECW because
you have to be an easy to fan to watch
the show, because God knows that network has never put
out one freaking commercial or press release to let you
know we're here. But that's their scheme of things. You see.
In just a few weeks, the network is going to

(01:15:03):
give one hundred million dollars to Vince McMahon, like he
needs it to replace us, in case they haven't thrown
us off before that. And the fact of the matter is,
we're not a publicly funded company like Vince McMahon or
w CW. We survive or even thrive on your support,
and for that we thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Okay, that far is so fucking funny, Like he looks
like he hasn't slept in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
He's fucked, dude.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
I wrote that. This is how I wrote down that
part of the premo here, this is how I write it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Down, change of sent and for that, we thank you.
With two big eye emojis the way he looks at
the camera, and for that, we thank you. All right down, Yeah,
I was enjoyed the show. Yeah. Now, in an industry
where everybody wants to be real and everyone wants to

(01:15:56):
do a shoot, this, my friends, is a shoot. We
hate this stinking network. We hate their guts for abandoning us,
We hate their guts for not supporting us, we hate
their guts for not advertising us, and we hate their
guts for not having the balls to throw us off
the air. And in case you're watching this, hey network,
I dare you to throw me off the air, because

(01:16:18):
I'm gonna break every rule you put in front of
me until you throw me the hell off the air.
Oh that's the fun I mean, like I've quoted that.
I've quoted that for since it happened, Like, yeah, dare
you to throw me the hell off the air? You?

(01:16:41):
This is like legendary, Like I love. It's very fucking funny. Though, Hey, Network,
what the fuck? I'm gonna break every rule that you've
got until you throw me off the air. Put Just
Incredible on again. Watch this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
I just put Just Incredible for his sex smarts the
World Champions. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Network?

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
He told us to never give him the title belt? Well,
he's champion until this company dies.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
I will give a fireball to Big Sound every week
off the air.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
So okay, So this that's not how it aired. How
Like I said, how it aired was okay. So they
they showed the Hayman thing. It's fucking muted and there's
scrolling texts at the bottom, and these are the following
things it says. One of the scrolling texts says, please
ignore this gentleman's temper tantrum. Could it be he's been
thrown through too many tables? I like this is the

(01:17:43):
TNN is fucking fucking with Paul Been on their own show,
on his show on their own network. That's nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
They probably never even seen this man.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Who is this? They email? Who's this yelling on the show?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
I cannot this on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
This sleepy, larger man on the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Show with big eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
There's also one that says TNN harbors no ill feelings
against e c W and TNN fully supports easy W
Wrestling and all of its redeeming qualities. That is fucking
funny as ship. I didn't know it aired like that.
I I don't know if I even saw it like
that ever, Like the originally airing of it where they
muted it, Like, does that mean like the real one
only ever came out either, because they couldn't put this

(01:18:28):
out on tape? Did the real one only ever come
out when like w W E got it right? Yeah?
Which is fucking pretty crazy. Yeah, this is legendary shit here.
I love all that drama because, like you know, in
two thousand, I would have been I would have ran
through a wall for Paul Hayman this ship, Like, fuck
this fucking network, piece of shit, bitch. I hate the fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Cyrus Scotty Airtime is taking us off the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Air clam on the sun.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
We got backstage, Joe Gertner says hello to all his
executive friends at TNN.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Okay, so this also was muted in the original broadcast,
and the scrolling text of bombs says, we are experiencing
technical difficulties. Please stand by. So there's no insults on
this one. But I mean, this one's even worse. This
one's more grecious than the him and one. Honestly, I
don't even know if I knew this one happened at all. So, yeah,
it's Joe Gerner and Joe Style's backstage, and Joel Gertner says,

(01:19:31):
I'd like to take this personal time to say hello
to all my executive friends at TNN, the ones that
have been incarcerated for smuggling underage farm animals across state
lines for the purposes of sexual gratification.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Was so fucking confused watch. I was like, what the
fuck is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
I didn't know where, Like, I didn't know if he
was talking about Cyrus at first, or what this was. Yeah,
incarcerated for smuggling underage far animals across state lines with
the purposes of sexual gratification, but at least they were
safe about it. They only picked the calves that didn't
kick back. And then Paul Hayman's face comes into the
frame like covering up Joey and Joel Gertner. He's so

(01:20:15):
close to the camera and he says, are you ready
to throw us off the air yet? Pig fucker?

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
And this tape come across my desk.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
I'm hitting Pulman with a firefox.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I'm asking what the absolute fuck is happening at this place?

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Like pig fuckersuckers is so fucking funny. That's the funniest insult.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Dude, It's unbelievable. Are you ready to throw us off
the air yet? Pig Fucker's And then he goes off
screen and behind him is Joel Gertner fucking dance like
what his arm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Is going crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
He's doing the buffet dance. That's thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
They ended at the bottom. Who the hell are any
of these people.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Y'all? Like raw?

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
So, now it's time for the main event of the evening,
which is Rhino Versus Sandman.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
For the TV titles, Hey network, I'm gonna do sixteen runners.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Yeah, so, which one of these guys is the undertaker.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
So Joey says it Living Dangerously on paper view in
Mark Steve Preno insulted the Sandman's wife and children with
language we cannot air here on TNN. What about a
fucking pig bastard?

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Yeah what fah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Images said they have sex with calves and they.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Fucked pigs, and for that, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Why wouldn't they harry? They want to be taking off
the air.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Just show me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Saying ass as.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
So Lori fulling don.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
God Tyler fulling don as well. Ass sees fucking Grino
says that ship she slaps them. Then at Living Dangerously,
Rhino Pile drives Sandman and then gors Lori falling to

(01:22:38):
through a table. And then at Hardcore Heaven, Rhino Pile
drives Lori through a table on the floor, and then
gors Sandman and her thro a table.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
That was awesome when he was holding her, and then
the gore through the table. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
This is all just because he wants to stay easy
to be television champion.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
So yeah we we uh we get Steven Rhino out
here with Jack Victory.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Of course, Steve looks off into the crowd as Sadman
is making his entrance through the crowd. They have a
spotlight on him.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
So Joel Gerdner says, his music's been playing for a
little over a minute, and he's already on his second beer.
And that's out here. That's not counting the twelve back.
I saw him in the back with his bladder is
full of beer, his lungs are full of tobacco. He
may look like he's in pretty rough shape, but he's
gonna take it to Rhino and he's gonna take it
out of Rhino's ass. I thought that was awesome. Yeah,
I was fired up.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
So Samon gets on the apron and then points at
the ramp with his kindo stick and the fat man,
Dusty Rhodes, comes out here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Holy fuck it me, daddy, I heard you.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
So Sammn goes to swing on Rhino but misses, and
Rhino takes over and we get the match started. Here,
Dusty ties himself to Corino with the bull rope so
he can't interfere.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
Saman brings a table into the ring and sets it
up in the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Sam Man, of course setting up a table at the
corner because that's gonna benefit him greatly.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
Of course, no one has ever been gorgeous way and
definitely not him on the last pay per view, the
last so Saman uh then pile drives Rhino on the
table just laying there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Yeah, that's like flat table. He just pol drives them
onto it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
Steve Kreno gets in the ring, but sam Man canes them.
Samon then starts canting Rhino. Jack Victory comes in, Stamon
starts canning him too. Rhino then punches him in the throat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Jack the pues his full bladder up crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
Too many beers to his cigarettes, So Jack Victory starts
attacking Saman but Dusty Rhodes comes in to make the save.
Steve Kreno takes over and starts attacking Dusty while Jack
Victory and Rhino attacks Sam Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
It's the numbers game, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
They talk about it three v two. It's fucking three v.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Two to Jerry comes in to make the saves. Him
and Karino just had their probably legendary singles match at
the last pay per.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
View, dude, which is like, I mean, I don't even
know if it's ten minutes, but it's just dog walking
Corino and fucking Kreno does a crazy gig job and
like it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Yeah, so to Jerry bus Stock kicks Krino. Then Treo
woes him. He green missed, Jack Victory, drop kicks Karina, backhandspring,
elbows Rhino. He's taking out everybody. But then but then
the US male Scotty Oh, he attacks to Jerry, it's
it's four v three. The crowd instantly starts chanting or

(01:25:30):
v D or VD. They fucking know it, and you
gotta give the people what they want. Uh So rvd's
music hits and he runs down here and he has
a house of fire man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
He takes a good fucking minute, though, doesn't music pretty
fucking cool? We paid for it, so you might as
well let it go a little bit, hey, network, you
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
So RVD runs down, He kicks Jack Victory, he kicks
Steve Karna.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Dude, Jack Victory taking anything is like, I don't know why,
it's so good, funny to be. He's like the greatest
bump forever.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
He's just he just timbers on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It's yes, that's a great way to put it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
So Rhino runs down rv D, but RVD goes up
and kicks Rhino. He then he kicks down Scotty Anton.
She goes up for the frog splash on Scotty Anton,
but the network.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Pulls him out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
Then RVD says fucking hits the ropes and does a
sensational flip dive to the And then Jerry Lynn is
also here and he's questioning what should I do?

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
What do I fucking dude?

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
On commentary the question whose side is he on?

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Is he with E c W or is he with
the network.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Because they say he could be the deciding factor of
this war? And where do yeah, where does he standing alone?
Spoilers He's fucking on the side of the network this
past and I'm gonna wrestle on who Yeah, So no
fucking finish to the match, obviously, this is I mean

(01:27:03):
like they don't even ring the bell, like this is
just the show.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
They just go off.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
The area just ends. I actually don't know if they
picked this back.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
I forgot about the match, to be honest, because then
came and I was like, whatever, Yeah, it's only your
title match.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
We thank you. So yeah, that's uh you c W
H in the year two.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Thousand, I mean, well, stuff's not looking great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
James Oh it's fine. It's good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Yeah, it's only going up from here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
They got a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Do you think they still could make it? There's a
lot of still.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Can make it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
He shows up next week Network. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I'm kidding our show.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
When I said it was a shoot, I meant it
was at work. I enjoyed the show, Don't get me wrong.
I thought this was awesome. This was like super easy
to watch. I enjoyed this thorough you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
It was crazy the amount of people that showed up
in that backstage Johnny swingers skit.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Shit, Yeah, that's fucking awesome. I mean, I I love
easy to be thrown through, even through its worst errors,
which we're in talking about right here, But like, shit
was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
I knew it was going to end in two thousand
and one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
I knew that guiltiest charge to give you the last
of all.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
In my mind, I knew it was over a two
thousand and one. I said, no way to make it
to April.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Oh shit, because you were observers, That's why you knew
all about it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Well, that is it for Easter W and TNN June second,
two thousand and that is it. For our show. Thank
you so much for joining us. Everybody, make sure to
check usut on Patreon, Patreon dot com slash Deadlock PW
the best Patreon going today. Six thousand people can't be wrong,
They just can't be six thousand. In counter, we have
so much stuff on there, hundreds of hours of exclusive
content waiting for you on our Patreon. So if you

(01:29:05):
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