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August 10, 2025 86 mins
Justin Credible vacated the ECW Tag Team Championships with Lance Storm after he became ECW World Champion. Thus, on the September 1st, 2000 episode of ECW on TNN they held a ECW Tag Team Title tournament. Emanating from the historic Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City, this episode would feature 4 tournament matches. Rhino and Justin Credible vs. Sandman and Chilly Willy, Simon Diamond and Johnny Swinger vs. Roadkill and Danny Doring, and Tommy Dreamer and Jerry Lynn vs. Rhino and Justin Credible. The main event would see Tommy Dreamer and Jerry Lynn vs. Simon and Swinger vs. Tajiri and Mikey Whipwreck with the winner becoming new ECW Tag Team Champions. Also, Billy Corgan would accompany Steve Corino to the ring, playing New York, New York on his guitar. All this and more as ECW is on the road to Anarchy Rulz 2000 Plus, the DEADLOCK $5 Patreon Q&A returns. You ask the questions and we give you the answers!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Boys are back in Welcome to the Dead podcast episode
number three hundred and.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Ten ten ten ten.

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Don't put that on us. Oh sorry, we are talking
about ECW on TNN September one, two.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thousand and What episode is that, is, James.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
That had to be episode fucking it gotta be the
one where Julio de Naro's on it. No, no, I
would never mark.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Of course the episode were the titles? The tag titles
are vacant because I had to put the world title
on justin credible.

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You asked me what episode was? In my mind went
to fifty six. I don't fuck it up? Season you
know what? Another episode? Season three episodes?

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Speaker 1 (07:02):
All right, let's get into the Patreon Q and A segment.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
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qua to you everybody listening. Yes, the five dollars Q
and A seg. You asked the questions. Maybe we'll give
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a whole different question, because we could do whatever the
fuck we want. It's our show. First question, Colton forty

(07:28):
five asks, since you boys travel so much, do you
guys have any airport routines? James's airport routines can be fun,
sometimes depending on how late he is forced to show
up and or how the latest flight is.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wait, what's that mean, dude?

Speaker 2 (07:45):
There was a fucking period of time, I feel like
a year where every floodier's got delayed and you were
just drinking on the airport all day.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh yeah, sure, well, I mean that's just what I've
come to expect to order you.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Is there anything you uh you always do when you
get like, is there a spot you go to to
get like food or anything about for a flight or
anything or.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Anything nowadays with pre check, No I arrived, when the
plane is going, I run with it and just patch
up jump on the back. Yeah, no way, I don't
do anything. I'm barely at the airport, dude.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Pre check is so fucking sick. Deb gets so fucking
mad at me because I want to get there, like
so close to my flight legit.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yes, yeah, Like once like I got the pre check
showed up like ten minutes before like boarding, I'm like there.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hell yeah, yeah, hell yeah, shouts out to the hat man.
He stole my benadryl asks h garlic bread or breadsticks?
Which you picking. I don't know if that's like in
general or like if it's your last thing, uh in life,
But if my.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Last thing in life is garlic bread or breadsticks, just
fucking kill me already.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You're on. You have to choose between garlic bread island
or breadstick island. Everywhere else in the fucking world is
blowing up, and those are the only two places you
can go.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh okay, but there's like an unlimited amount. Hmmm, I'll
go breadsticks.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Whoa do you have like a place?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Because garlic would piss me off after a while. Imagine
living on an island and all there is is fucking
garlic bread I'd.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Lose my vampire boy over here, fucking I know what
you are?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, and I'm coming to your house tonight.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
That was okay?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
He did?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Bread Sticks is probably my answer to do you is
there one that like, uh, you fuck with more than
other places? You like the Olive Garden ones? They got
endless ones?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I think, Yeah. I mean, if I had to pick
right off the top of my head, I go, I
go Olive Garden just because I don't know if I
get bread sticks? Many places?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know? Oh I see I My favorite is pizza Hut.
But I know you aren't as crazy about pizza Hut
as I am.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, yeah, I grew up in a small town. All
we had was pizza Hut. Literally, if you wanted pizza
with pizza, that was it.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So it was like, okay, there's a you could walk
to a pizza Hut from your house.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Joe mar Reyes asks between the three of you others
two of us here, who would play who in the
Mighty Morphin series. That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Conny would play the fucking dog that can transform. I
forgot this one. That was light speed rescue or fucking
I don't remember which it was. Maybe, Yeah, I don't know.
The fucking dog. Y'all know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
He would be Tommy.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
That dog kisses me the funk off. He fits into
the Ranger outfit, his nose, his big ass dog like
head fits into the fucking ranger helmet. I don't think
so this is that's Tony, right.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think i'd be uh, I'd be like Bulk or
Skull or both. I'd be Bulk and Skull like if
like we would just have to change outfits in the
middle of scenes. But I think i'd be Yeah, I
can see that. I don't think i'd be a Ranger.
I don't think I got that in me. Yeah, you could,
which one you think you can endure? Who's that? Oh?
Oh like he's like an enemy?

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right, No, he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
We like, yeah, oh yeah, okay, this guy's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Did they had a little figure. No, it's not, Billy.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, if I send you this picture this, holy Billy,
what Ranger? Like? What range do you think you are?
Do you do you get? Do you get a Ranger
at all?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah? Of course I do. I'm I'm fucking either the
Black Ranger or the Green Ranger one because I always
thought the Black Rangers gun was fucking awesome. It was
at that turned into a fucking gun holy shit, which
I mean like also main component of the gun that
they put together without that is not shooting.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think your Zorda that'd be fucking pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Rangers. I'm stuck in hell.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
We have a question here from Seawan Michael's Lazy Eye
asks if Prime e c W did a show with
Prime cz W, what matches would you like to see?
This is a very exciting question for for us because.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
This Club versus the Impact Players.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
No, come on, I'm sorry, not been good like good
start like Hate Club and the Goddamn Gangsters would have
been cool. Hey Club, Dudley's that was always what I
wanted to see.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Actually, we like the impact players, so.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Like Hey Club and Dudley's.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Zandig versus Paul, Yeah, that would be good and Lobo
versus Louis.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh, like as Paul Haymon, Right, yeah, Shanon Justice Paint
always one of the wrestles Shane Douglas, So that's probably one. Sure, Sure,
I don't know if it's any good, but like that's
what they wanted. Nate Hatred against Spike Dudley. Mmm, that's
gotta be.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Mike Awesome versus Nick Mondo.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Mikeelson and Zambig actually would be like pretty fucking sick too.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I feel I feel like you have to have a
guy that would bump and.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Like, yeah, Mike Awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean that match.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Is bumping for.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Billy five versus Jeeves.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Dick Hurts against Beef Willington.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Backseat versus Amas roadkiller Daddy Dory.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, okay, that'd be awesome. Sick as fuck seats against
fucking roadkilling Doring would be hot there to is damn
good answer? Good fucking answer. We have a question here
from please book Dookie and mister ask versus Dick Slater
and Balls mahoney and a shitty has Dick and Balls
match at deep to. We just watched The show Man.

(14:12):
That's the name. Question is I want to get my
laps Wrestling fan buddy into DPW and we have enough
time to watch one show together. Which one should it be?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
That's a good question. I mean, we have a lot
of really good shows that you could watch any given point.
I think anybody always I think the question that we
always get is like what shows should I watch or whatever?
Just pick one, just any of the recent ones, Like
they're all good, and I think you'll enjoy them and
you'll be able to catch out with everything pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I mean everything is, you know, pretty well explained
on the show. We try to we not that we
you know, not that like that. The show's put together
every time for a new fan, but like, I don't
think it's hard at all to jump in at any
point and figure out what's going on from the videos
that are shown or fucking just the matches that play
out if you are looking for like an exact show,

(14:58):
because you just fucking just cannot pick one. I mean,
just if we're talking about this year, I mean, title
Fight in Vegas was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, Title Fight in Vegas this year was very good
all time. I mean, we have some you can go
watch Carolina Classic twenty twenty three on YouTube, of course,
some PPW on demand with that's like an Alzheimer's show.
Note nothing muted, I guess is the best way to
put it. Sure, super Battle, of course, that's our biggest
show ever. Yeah, that was awesome. World's Strongest, I mean

(15:29):
there's a lot of World's Strongest last year. I think
there's a lot of options. I think there really is,
and you can pick any of them and you'll have
a good time.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Call me good times. The way I'm going to be
coming asks what video games are you all playing right now? Well,
James is playing probably six of them as we're doing this.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean I'm definitely fishing right now at autos Rata.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Like that's fucking unbelievable. I can't believe the amount of
people that were supportive of this from the last show.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, everyone loves old school Escape, but like I'm
trying to get Johnny to start playing.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I just thought I played it a little grown up,
but not enough that like.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
He doesn't understand the second screen AFK game. He doesn't
understand that tech.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
No, no I have I usually have like a SmackDown
two Universe mode playing on the second screen.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, but you could be an ATTO's Grotto on your
third screen.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I'm trying to find smack Down two. I need to
get to the.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
End of it. Dude, I know a guy that got
to the end of SmackDown two season mode.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
There's no ending to it.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
There is an ending. There is an ending. I saw
it when I was like ten years old. It was awesome,
and you watched it with my eyes. Yeah, and you
won't tell me what it is. It's very similar to
finding me under the truck in Pokemon. Also not a
thing I saw my eyes when I was ten years old?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Elle is real? Is that as well?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah? That was there when I was ten.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You've seen all of these?

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, they need to save my brain for future discoverments.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Taking out Shavana style just to see how to ends.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
I'll go to the grave with that one.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
That sucks. I'm your friend. While he's also playing run Skate,
we've been playing a lot of split Gate two. We
played it a bunch when it first dropped. Then I
fell out of love with it a little bit. James
and Macho kept up with it. Then I saw an
announcement that the game was dying, so I jump back
in and now I'm full bore on it again.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Battle Royale mode and Split two is pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Man, It's fucking very fun. And we've been, uh, we've
been winning. There's a there's a time between like midnight
and five am that we play and that's when the
worst people ever are online. We played, uh, the new
fucking Tony Hawk three and four. We were playing that
for a while. You beat three?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, I beat three.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, I had goals, I got close. Fucking very fun.
I enjoyed that game a lot. Yeah. I think it's
cool to you brought it up, but I was hoping, uh,
you know it'd be cool. Four was more like four
and not just one, two and three, Like, yeah, I
get it, you know what I mean? Uh, yes, sir,
we promise you agreement of and Andre the Giant, etcetera, etcetera.
Asks more video game stuff here, James, for you specifically, James,

(18:17):
when are you gonna play Clear Obscure Expedition thirty three?
I assume you're waiting until you finished you one hundred
percent play through of Metaphor Revandasio. I can't believe anyone
remembers talking.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
About Yeah, I mean, I'm closing in on the finish
of that. Very similar ending to SmackDown two season mode,
which is weird.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Can't be dude, I like whatever, I all right, I
might have to get on Rootscape, like if that's the way.
Like I've played two seasons by my whole life and
it's never ended. That was as fucking possible.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah for you?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Fuck you. What's uh Expedition thirty three.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I think it's like Final Fantasy or something like that.
I mean I I saw people play it a little bit.
Yeah right. Yeah, I'm just like super out of those
types of games right now, so I probably won't pick
that up until it's on sale.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
For like reviews and stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
With this game, yeah no, I mean I heard it
did super well. Okay, can you really compare it to
Metaphor Refantasio?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean no, I mean though, I mean Metaphor Refantasio
didn't even win the Game of the Year last year,
so like there might be other better games you can
compare this game too.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I would think you would put Obscure thirty three
legend or whatever the game I already forgot. I would
probably say, oh, it was Expedition thirty three. I would
probably put Expedition thirty three right below clustered truck do
you remember that game, and and I would also maybe

(19:50):
put it right below a little game called Fable two mm.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Wow, strong, that's strong. No, it's sayers ask if you
boys could add hair to any bald wrestler, who would
it be?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Fucking uh Gilberg just incredible, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Want to put it at the top of the little hat?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Oh shit?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
When he was the Portuguese Man of War?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
What about uh?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
For some reason in my head, the Portuguese Man of
War did have hair come out the top of it.
But I think I'm thinking of Invincible.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
War didn't have any openings on the top of the mask. Wait,
yes it did, I'm lying.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Wait, Oh my god, it did. It didn't come out
the top. I'm not convinced that's real hair.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well here's here's a picture of it with no hair
with e on it.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Wow, that's fucking insane. Yeah, that's my answer. The Portuguese
Man of War.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You're giving them hair back. Yeah. Jose Atkinson asks, if
you guys had a triple we'll do a singles match.
You guys had a singles match against each other? What
spots are y'all running? We're taking it easy me and you, Yeah,
the house is down, I mean like the whitehouse, like.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
No bumps bump for what like, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'd probably worked. I'd try to work the leg to
get you down because you're a tall bastard. I'd probably
put some kind of gender mahull second rope chop to
the head in my repertoire there.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I would, you know, uh no, sell the leg work
that we did for the first half of the match
by the second, because I have to get some shit off.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
You're calling this to be like this, Yeah, I get,
but I'm bumping now.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'll randomly remember it like in the end of my
finishing sequence, and I'll go a smack it and then
I'm good to go.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You'll smack it after running full sprint.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'll hit, I'll hit my finish and I'll go.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And then I'm gigging the wraf because the promoter asks
for blood in this one, so I gotta gig the
ref off a bump. Let me know you and we'll
go seven by the way, seven minute match here.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yes for fourteen, We'll give you seven. I mean, we
were just listening to the crowd.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
They asked for this sound selling.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
They didn't want to see he's selling out there, brother.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Why didn't you sell it there? Well? The crowd, the
crowd didn't want did you.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Hear the people? We got him in the end, brother.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh my god, we got him in the end. Last
question here, Joe mar Reyes. Well, two questions from this guy.
He fucking lucked out this week. Have you guys seen
Happy Go More two? And if so, would you guys
think of it? We did fucking watch it. We watched
it with Macho. Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
It was awesome, dude.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
After Macho held us up for ten minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, what an ass wipe? Had to get a new
Netflix account for him just to watch this damn movie,
son of a bitch.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
But he did stay. I mean we watched it like
super late too. I don't even know how he was up,
but we did watch it.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
And I fucking thoroughly enjoyed it. Man. I went in
with kind of low expectations just because you know, it's
been a while. But man, this movie made me feel great,
Like like everything that I was hoping it would be
it actually was, which was super surprising.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yes, I enjoyed it a lot. Watching you guys was cool.
It hit every spot I wanted to hit, Like, Yes,
every single thing I could have won it from this movie.
I felt like they at least touched on. They even
include the Mista Lady.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Dude heist and you called it. I think in the
first five minutes you said, Wow, I fucking hope they
do that. I believe this is this blogs to mister
Gilbour dude, and they did it.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
At the end of the movie. Yeah, dude, I mean,
we're a fist buff of the air. We were fucking
going nuts.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean, fucking bad. Bunny was fantastic in this fucking movie.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
He was.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, he was very I mean, eminem cameo was awesome.
Mjf This fucking Happy Sons are awesome.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, that turned out awesome. The part where they were
all for a different jobs air humping was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Fucking air hump with different objects.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Dude. Yeah, I do that all the time, and I've
done that my entire life, like twenty years.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I've been doing this. Fucking do that.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
What Yeah, it was from that movie, and it's just like,
it was so funny.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
You've done that on the fucking behind the.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Scenes, dude. Anything that looks ball, I'm doing it, Like
it's just happening.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Uh, the fucking story was fun too, Like I mean
the smelly breath top heel guy was I mean I
hated that son of a bitch, so I was glad
he got his fucking come uppance.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Dude, he got his come upance in every scene from
the very start of the movie. I mean threw him
a lobster fucking box.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
What do you call that? Aquariums? Fine, they put him
in the fish balls.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
They throw me that fish barrow he got from temporossa
escape chance found chans like it doesn't not at all.
Oh my god, But.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You guys should check out Happy gid More. It's actually
very good movie. We didn't get paid to say this either.
I wish we would get paid to say this. I
would say it more right, right, But yes, it's very,
very fucking good movie. But that is it for the
Q and a thank you all for joining us. And
now it's time to talk about ECW September first, two thousand.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
All right, let's get into ECW on TNN September first,
two thousand.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
We love TNN, don't we. For now, Well, before we
get into e W on TNN, where they do a
tag title tournament where we see some rounds and some not,
and then then.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
We see some matches and some You're right, also true.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
We're crowning new East w Tag champions on this episode
of ECW on TNN. But before we get into that,
let's see what was going on in the world wrestling
at the time. With the Wrestling Observer newsletter from The
Observer August twenty first, two thousand, the first sign of
major cutbacks in WCW were evident in the past week.
First what they toned down Thunder, which disappoints everybody. Nobody
goes into Thunder expecting a tone down show. That's very upsetting.

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And later with the announcement that starting in late October,
all Thunder tapings are canceled, an announcement made by Brad
Siegel to the wrestlers before the New Blood Rising pay
per view starting on October twenty third in Little Rock, Arkansas,
WW will cut down to one television taping for the
week to save costs. There have been two scenarios laid out.
They could start one hour before Nitro goes on the air,

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tape an hour for Thunder, then tape the final hour
of Thunder after Nitro goes off the air live. The
more likely scenario, just says, is for Thunder to be
taped and it's entirely after Nitro ends. That's so much
in one day for it. But I guess, you know,
they just need the content done.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
So however, like a guess is okay if you're just
doing matches, but like WW at that time was like
they're doing stories, so like that would be fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Hour Queenly segment after night.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, I think we saw a few have aisodes where
they were doing this and they didn't change out the
rope color, like they didn't tape the ropes or anything.
Sometimes the Nitro ropes will be blue or sometimes the
Thunder ropes would be red or black or whatever. They yeah,
just didn't care at all. Just whatever, just put the
aprons on and we'll call it.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Get the Queenie sake.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
For a while, I feel like they were just using
gray aprons for every show, so they never changed it.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah. Yeah. Negotiations have continued and are said to be
very serious for ECW to appear in a late night
time slot on the USA Network with a two hour
show that would combine elements of the popular MTV show
The Real World with Pro Wrestling. Meltzer says the idea
of putting together across between the two shows is not unique,
as the Southern California based Ultimate Pro Wrestling up dub

(28:48):
As and I has had an idea in the planning
stages for a similar show, and Syndication with its recent
Discovery Channel special acting as something of a pilot. So
eas w was gonna do that or there was a
pitch for a two hours easy to be showed that
was like the Real World the Ultimate Fighter. Yeah, okay,
that's what I was thinking. Is that what they're thinking,
or is it gonna be like they follow the life

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of these dudes.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
They're gonna put We're gonna put Big Crimes and New
Jack in a house together and see what accords.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
They're gonna make them a scorpion.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I haven't watched the Real World at all fear factor.
I don't know the kind of awesome though.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, what if they combine fear Factor in the real
world and no wrestling.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
That seems to be a lot of people's plans nowadays,
especially let's how do we make this show as Lee's wrestling.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
As wrestling at all? Yeah, get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Dude, East to fear factor sounds like a kind of
sick idea, like, yeah, it's New Jack and vic crimes.
I'll keep that example to and these together and.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You have to sit in this casket full of snakes
and you went five hundred dollars and then the checkle bounce.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Fear of your getting actually getting paid.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
To be part of the combination is they don't get paid.
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Meltzer says on an indie show at the infamous Wonderland
Greyhound Park in Revere, Massachusetts, famous for the Erica Kulas incident.
It is otherwise known as mass Transit. An indie show
on nine to eight has a match featuring Mass Transit
and apparently his first match in a few years since
the New Jack incident, where he slips his fucking forehead
open with the advertising tagline quote unquote will history repeat itself?

(30:44):
Which is fantastic. I love that the idea that they
are advertising that there's a chance that Mass Transit once
again will get shot on and snapped the death and
you should come.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Out for it.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I would go out for it with my knife. In
w CW News, there has been talk of doing an
angle where Vampiro would kidnap and torture one of the
TV announcers that.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Just and make him eat a scorpion.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
And sliced her forehead open. I mean that's what would Madden, right, Yeah, yeah,
I mean I imagine all the ideas circled around Mark Madden.
He would take him to a graveyard and bore him
to death. Add Jim Duggan and Brian Knobbs to the
list of people fired from w CW. Hoove and Tude

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Gerrera was also on that list to be cut after
his contract expires, but there are forces that work trying
to save his job. But we're told it's by no
means a lock Jim Duggan and Brian Knobbs and and
potentially Hoovey, which is like that sucks, Like a lot
of those guys.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Just put them together.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Wow, that's like superspired.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I mean, that would be a hell of a team.
I would He's probably just fire Brian Knobs, but Jim
dugg In a hovide.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Oh they're ready for a Sunday that heat un for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Oh my god. Yeah on Thunder with whatever color ropes
you would like on that show. It don't matter Meltzer
put here. This is fascinating. I don't know who Richard
Sullivan is, but Meltzer puts here. Then an idea for
a match sent in by Richard Sullivan, Tommy rich whose
mother played the Judy Bagwell role two decades ago, versus
Buff Bagwell with the two yes yes, with the two

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mothers on the stage, and every time one of them
gets thrown over the top rope, their mom has to
put on clothing. I don't know why Meltzer put this in,
but then it got me thinking that I don't know
if was Meltzer saying that this is a good idea
that they should do this and their mom should be
but ass naked on the stage and put cloth after
every time you thrown over the top rope.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Just wanted to talk.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You have to put it on the boards. Last thing
here there was scheduled to be a meeting on eight
thirty one and discuss the House of Scott Levy's debut
and character. Raven's EASYV contract expired on eight twenty six
and he signed to the WWF. So big things coming here, boys.
I know both of you were very excited about the
debut of Raven. H here in the WWF.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Maybe Scotty Flamingo will be coming in. That'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Why would that have Why would he be there these
why not? What do you mean, what's he going to
do there? Scotty Flamingo have a tag team? He couldn't
win on w CW.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well, he wasn't supposed to. He was just trying to
get everybody else crack.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Scotty Flamenca, Scottie Levy, wow, all the same.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, Well that is it for the Observer. Now it's
time to talk about W and TN and September first,
two thousand.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
So we start with the code open here. It shows
us a match here to Jerry and Mikey Whipwreck. They're
taking on Julio de Nio an easy money.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I mean, I was super thrown off by this at first,
because I thought the version that I was watching was
fucked up and like it cut in at a commercial
and like it was just cutting, chopped and screwed up weird.
But no, the show starts halfway, not even halfway, maybe
three quarters of away, through a tag match, which is
the semi finals of the tournament.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
They just didn't have a lot of time on this show.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
No, they did not.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah. I also love Julio Denaro and Easy Money being
a team because they like money a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And Chris Hammrick of course, who became a Confederate currency because.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
He likes money. Yeah. So this is the ECW Tag
Team Title tournament. The titles are vacant right now. The
winners of this tournament obviously will be the new champions.
And Oy Styles actually tells us tonight that we will
go through all the way through the finals tonight and
crown new champions.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, and also maybe we'll find out somewhere in our review.
But Joey also says there's shocking news about RVD tonight.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Okay, so he does say that, Yeah, And I waited
all fucking show. I was like, oh, is this where
he like breaks his ankle or whatever?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Thought too, I swore. I was like, okay, we're getting
down to the wire here on time. No RVD thing,
Like I don't know if it was cut out of
the version we were watching, which I'd be very surprised
by because it was recy dubb.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
There was definitely some stuff I don't think that was
in here, sure, commercials or like maybe some like shit
like you know what I mean, but yeah, most of
the stuff was in here, so I don't know what
we could have missed.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
By the way, Also, so this tournament's happening just to
catch everyone up. Titles are currently vacant because Just Incredible
gave up his half of the title to challenge for
the East of B World title at CyberSlam. Or he
won the title, and then he also split from Lanstorm
there and I guess that just absolved the fucking entire team.
So that's why we're having this tournament.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well, they show us the match here, Whipbreck into Jerry
versus Genera and Money, and it shows Chris Hamrick interfering
and he gets missed it out of mid air and
then takes his patented bump to the floor.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Oh my god. Yeah, I mean like this is a
I don't know how much the actual time of this
match was, but these the part they showed here is
a complete sprint.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well to and Mikey end up winning this match. That's
just the first part of this tournament. We'll get the
rest of the matches here after Joey Styles and Joe
Gertner introduce us to the show.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yes, Oh, by the way, just the note by the
way because I figured they don't fucking show it most
of the time, so easy money and Julio Denaro advanced
to the fucking extra part of the tournament here by
beating Joey Matthews and Christian York and then Tajuri and
Mikey beat the FBI, and that's how they faced each
other here. Okay, legend Joey Matthews you may know him

(37:03):
as Joey Mercury of course, is uh his his later
career in M and M. Yeah, it can't be set enough,
by the way, the hammerck bump off the apron.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Is missed, and then the flip bump onto concrete by
the way, just out there, it's concrete over the paddy.
I think there was patting on this and he went over.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
He totally avoids it because Mikey and somebody flips over
the onto concrete.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
This fucking gnarly.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But yes, as James said, we get the W and
CNN intro. We're in Hammerstein Ballroom in New York, which
a lot of people associate with, you know e CW,
mostly because of the back end of ECW. Here, Joey
Styles and Joel Gertner in the ring welcome us to
the show. Joey of course introduces himself as Joey Styles,
and the crowd immediately goes, well, well, well, and that's

(37:51):
what Joel Gertner does. And of course he is the
quintessential stud muffin. And he just I mean, he talks
about getting fucked and fucking fucking.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Everything every part of New York. It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I mean they were popping for it, like they don't care.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
They want das all over.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, and he uh, he had double the pleasure and
double the fun in Brooklyn with these twins named Candy
and Connie. But the best piece of s I got
was here in midtown Manhattan when I was looking for
hookers with the Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
He says that he when he said that he knew
Candy and Connie, there's one guy in the crowd that says,
I know them, dude. It is very clear too that
God was fit sitting right next to the like I
know those girls.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean, that's funny. Ship the huge fucking pop here.
Easy way to open the show. And then Joey welcomes
our guest. He says, a young man who may very
well be the next ECW World Heavyweight Champion, the king
of old school Steve Careno. I'm like, oh, fuck, okay, cool,
and I expect him to come out as he usually would,
but no, he comes in through the crowd and Stone

(39:02):
coulds with them.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
That's fucking death from Bill and Ted.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
What's up, dude, Billy Corgan is here with a fucking
guitar and I don't know. I mean, you guys are
a little more musically and Glendening me. I have no
fucking idea what Billy Corgan was playing here. It sounded
like one of those videos where someone dubs over someone
playing shitty Shreds. He's playing the.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Song New York, New York, you know, like in then
metal hardcore.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Billy, Yeah, he's here. This big fucking guitar's loud as shit.
I mean, sounds horrible, and.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I mean it's not it's not plugged into anything. It's
just him playing the guitar. There's no feed to us
or anything. It's just whatever it sounds like. In the Arena.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Rebound, Joey congratulates Steve Corino and being the number one
contender for the East to the title and ask him
how it feels and Steve Steve Greno says, without kissing
anybody's ass here, Thank god I can perform here in
New York City. And then for some reason there's a
Philly sucks chance. What the fuck is going on here?

(40:21):
The shoot that guy his house, James every day when
I call him. But Kirino says, it's well known that
I cheated to score a pinfall victory over New Jack
and I'm not gonna apologize for that. And i cheated

(40:41):
to score a pinfall victory over the American dream Dusty Rhodes,
and I'm not gonna apologize for that. And I cheated
to score a pinfall victory over the innovator of violence,
Tommy Dreamer, and I'm not gonna apologize for that, and
just incredible, I'm never gonna apologize when I score a
pinfall victory over you. And there's like definitely fake crowd

(41:02):
noise here. I thought he was gonna like say one
of these he was sorry for, like, but no, he's
he just admits he cheated in all these matches and
he and.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
That's okay, well technically nothing's against the rules, it's just
he cheated, and like that's the way you cw works
is so different than how wwf WCW even worked at
the time, right, Like he is no rules, but depending
on how you play out the match, it determines where

(41:33):
your character sits on like their spectrum or facing heel,
because it's not as black and white as that in ECW.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
So like if you cheat in ECW in a shitty way,
fuck you. If you cheat a cool way, that guy's
pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Like a low blow in three interference is a different
level to beating a guy to death with a jair. Yeah, right,
that's a good point. You're right, And I'm guessing that's
that's where he is going here. He's he's okay with cheating,
and the crowd is too, because the world champion is
just incredible and really anything we could do to stop
that from happening again, He's there, cheater, Yes, that's right.

(42:11):
Uh So, Karino says, everybody here in New York City
knows that the next East W World Champion is and
then someone from behind where this is at the stage says,
is the same person who's champion now? And I said, oh,
I don't recognize that voice because it I just I.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Know it was Louis dangerously. He's a network music consultant.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
For Okay, what the networking music is a part of
this angle that I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I didn't know that either. I was. I was
actually thrown off when it had the nameplate for that.
That's funny. It's just a nothing job like that's just
kind of the point.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I think, Oh, he just wants a title. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Well he comes out here and it's lou E Dangerously.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
He's like the assistant to their regional manager. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Louis says, it'll be the same person who was champion
yesterday and who will be the same person after a
rules And he also says, also, excuse me, excuse me.
I don't know if that was his line. I'm assuming
it was because he had to get it in. But
he gets shut the fuck up. Chance for that, guys,
as you do.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Little high spot. Steve Karna did that when he came
out with his funny as shit. He walked straight into
the crowd and looked at him again, him the high Spot, dude.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I swear he kept throwing it up and saying victory.
So lou says, Joey Joel, get your fucking asses out
of my ring right now, and Joey Styles is about
to beat this dude's ass like he's getting in his face.
Corrino actually has to hold Joey Styles back, which is
a fun visual. But Joey and Joel leave and Carino

(43:41):
then gets in Louis's face, and Billy Corgan's there when
it's hoodie and he's ball. Then he steps up as well,
and Luis says, do you want to talk about being
no more contender? The only thing you're a number contender
for is the person who's ass I kick. After I kick,
Billy Gorg gets ass, I was like, oh okay, he's
just like kind of talking shit, and then he says,
I'm gonna kick your ass. I'll kick your ass. I'll

(44:03):
kick all of your asses. He points around the whole building.
Everyone's pissed. Then Louis says, I deserve the title shot
at Anarchy Rules. Yeah, I thought I here, I missed
a plotline here that.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Is he aedorious tough guy that I didn't know about, Like, what's.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
The idea is that he's not? But I don't know.
I should get the world titles? Fucking crazy? You think
he'd be advocating for c w Anderson or some shit.
So Louis says, I deserve a title shot. Anarchy rules
and you know what, and the crowd starts chanting asshole, asshole,
and he looks at it and says, whatever, I'll fight
both of your asses right now, so he fucking drops

(44:43):
the mic. He's fired up. They all square up to fight,
which is crazy two old one fight. They should have
jumped this dude. But Just Incredible comes in and he
hits fucking Steve Careno in the back with a Singapore
cane and he's taunting and he's fired up, and Billy
Corgan now has the cane and he tries to hit
lou with it, but he runs away, and then Billy
Corgan backs Just Incredible, the world champion, not a corner,

(45:05):
and he's trying to choke him to death with the
singapore gane. He brings Justin down onto a seated position
in the corner. Then he stands up and he does
a very sensual suck it crotch chop at Just Incredible,
which leads to look dangerously breaking his cell phone over
the back of his bald head, and Justin Credible gets

(45:27):
up and hits James's favorite line. Of course, of.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Course, he says, Now that's not just the coolest, that's
not just the best, that's a message from the network.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
We love the network. Just Incredible getting a lot of
his heat here on Steve Careno, who's number one contender,
even though Jerry Lynn is also number one contender. They
were talking about that throughout the show, and I was
kind of confused. Did Jerry Lyn just have a guaranteed
shot at another show.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
It seems like he had, or Jerry Lynn has the
winner of the Corino and Just Incredible, uh match, So
that's that's sort of the yeah, the lay of the land.
So we have our first match of the evening here
Rhino and Just Incredible with Francine versus The Sandman and

(46:23):
Chili Willie.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I there was no point where I was I saw
it was gonna be in my brain. I was got
with Sandman and Dreamer or Salmon and fucking balls mahoney,
like anybody. Chili Willi is over as fuck though, So
this is a fantastic pairing.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So Rhino is the TV champ, Just Incredible is the
world champ, and Chili Willy is with the Sandman here.
I actually don't know how this tag team came to
be could have just been two guys that wanted to
be the tag team champions why not?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Which is fine? And uh, Chili Willi, by the way,
they say, is a five time tough Man winner despite
having no boxing back and Joey says he just likes
knocking people out. And he's also everyone's favorite homeboy.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah, that's his nickname, Everyone's favorite homeboy.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
This is all good for me, Like, I'll take all that.
I also, by the way, I thought it was very funny.
They show sam at the beginning of sam Man's entrance,
then we go to commercial. When we come back, Saman
is shirtless, drenched in beer and sweat and bleeding.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah. I thought that was a good way to shorten
his entrance for his show. That didn't have any time
at all to do anything.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
So dude, not at all. We had so many matches
to go through.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It worked out well. Chili Willy's name card spelled his
name Chili with an eye at the end, so it
was Chili Willy with two eyes. But then his trunks
are spelled Chili Willy with two whys. So okay, no
clue how to spell this guy's name here?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I definitely wrote it down as with the whys the
entire time. I don't think I ever saw it with
the eyes, so that's what we're going with.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, I wrote it down with the wise due. It
says here during this match that Jerry Lynn will take
on Karna or Credible, whoever wins the world title. He's
next up in the contender ship. And we get Credible
in Rhino hot starting, and they actually hot start in
the match last maybe sixty seconds.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I mean it's so fucking quick and they do everything
in this short amount of time.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, Rhino Gore's Chili Willy and Paul drives.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Them, okay, and when James says, when Jame says, he
goes them the like bell ring. Gore Rhino started the
match with five finishes.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, just straight up Gordon. Paul drived him just incredible,
hit the super kick on Samman and stomps him out,
just incredible. Goes outside and grabs the table with Francine.
The quickest I've ever seen a table get picked up
from under the ring and put into the ring. I
mean just I mean, this was incredible, really just incredible,
just incredible. And then Francine put the table in the

(48:50):
ring and they set up the table and Saman gets
up and starts hitting him with the cane oh my god,
and hits the white Russian legs sweep on just incredible here,
yes man then starts hitting Rhino in the head with
the cane till it fucking just breaks.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
It explodes, which has to hurt, like fucking shit, Like
I'm Samon was swinging that thing crazy anyway, but this
thing is destroyed and pieces of it are just stabbing
Rhino in the head and Rhino's not going down.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Rhino actually just ends up picking him up and then
running him through the table on the other side of
the ring.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Which is fucking so awesome, so fucking cool of a
visual like Rhino, this big beast of a dude running
full sprint across the ring goringam through a table. The
table breaks like hell, I mean, Rhino on ECW is
a fucking monster.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Well, Saman kicks out at two the crowd chance e
c dub. Rhino then hits a pile driver and pins
Saman for the three.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Pile driver on the broken table piece and the crowd,
I mean, the crowd was super up when Salmon kicks
out and then he fucking gets hit with the pile
driver and the crowd is ah.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
And I mean Chili Willy got hit with a gore
and a pile driver right off rip. He was done.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
He was done. Yeah, Rhino with the finisher cheese. He
should have just always do this. It works fantastic for him.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, super fast match here, not what I expected when
I saw it, But I like what they do at
the time here.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, I mean I guess maybe they were like, well
because I think some of these matches they like also
had like matches before this one, so like they probably
were like, whatever we can do to get this quick
and hot for TV, and then these guys can still
wrestle in the same night in the finals. Let's make
it happen that way.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
So we have Simon Diamond and Johnny Swinger with c
W Anderson versus Amish Roadkill and Danny doing as your
next tournament match.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So Simon and Swinger, I think they show this here
in the recap as well. They beat Chris Chetty and
Nova because in the one Wrestling dot Com replay Simon
and Swinger where everyone was in the ring, Chris Cheddy
went for a spin kick on Swinger, he ducked. Then
Cheddi went for it again. He just kept swinging his
leg and opening for the best, but he hit Nova
in the face and knocked him out. And then Swinger
and Simon hit the problem solver, which is like a

(50:58):
three D dd T.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
That's what I wrote. I wrote three D D T.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, I mean yeah, but yeah, I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
It's cool though.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
By the way, so Simon Diamond and Johnny Swinger Joey's
explicitly says here on commentary they were a comedy act
here in ECW and c W Anderson put a stop
to that. So now they're on their series run. That's
the Enforcer, of course, and Danny Doran road Kill advanced,
by the way by beating to Pald's the Pald's Tony
DeVito n Angel.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
So Simon Diamond, Johnny Swinger and c W come down.
The all three stand in the ring and do their paunts.
Just three crazy guys right here.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, like, I love these dudes.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Roadkill and Danny Doring come out, and uh, the way
they get into the ring is so nuts. Danny Doring
just gets into the ring, Roadkill steps on each rope,
goes over the top, hops into the ring and then
they hot start.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Okay, I swore. I was like, wow, Roadkill's about to
do his rope like climb clothesline to hot start this. No,
he just gets into the ring that way and then fights.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So they all immediately start punching each other. Doring throws
Swinger out of the ring and Roadkill hits an Oklahoma stampede,
which allows Danny Doring to hit his panty drop elbow.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Like it's not even like a fantastic elbow's sucking innovative elbow.
It's dooring on the second rope doing an elb.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Drawing a regular over drop. Everything has a name for these.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Man drop elbow. I like it.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
So Roadkill gets on all fours and Danny Doring jumps
off his back over the top rope onto Diamond Swinger
in C. W. Anderson, that's the enforcing job. So Roadkill
and Doring hit the heart attack, but the ref is
distracted by how cool Alma's Roadkill looks, so he doesn't
come to you.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Then that's the Lancaster larryt of lust.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
That is fucking insane. Like I heard him say that
and I thought maybe I'll write this down. I was like, nah,
just dude, I had the same feeling.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
I was like, no, that's the heart attack. I'm not
read anything else.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Does the Lancaster period of lust lost them a job
in the WWF.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Oh my god, that true. That the foundation. No, that
was the that was the at lust. That's what Haymond
was taking the back. That was the Okay, never mind.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I actually don't know these guys.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Who would tell them to do the heart attack.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
C W pulls out dooring, and that allows Johnny Swinger
to hit a baseball slide dropkick.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Here.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yes, c W distracts roadkill and Swinger hits the swing thing, which.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Is a Cobra clutch Russian leg sweep.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
So Swinger and Diamond hit a Russian leg sweep flatliner
double team move.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Dude. I also even just before that, James, and I
was hoping you'd be impressed by this as well, because
this was a thing of the times double Irish whip,
double gun kick.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Gunk before anything here at this time. Anything.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I wonder you know I didn't think of it growing up?
Is that why like in like the wrestling games, usually
had to put him in groggy position for a finisher,
and usually to do that was gutkick.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
It's the very specific gutkick too. Yes, so Diamond hits
two suplexes and a gordbuster for a two. Diamond and
Swinger go for a double line, but Danny Doring hits
a double bear back.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yes. During all this, by the way, the referee is
still distracted by how bald road Kill.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
It whatever you he loves the hair, like how this
works here on the chin. So Roadkill gets the hot
tag and lines everyone. Then he hits the dirt road slam.
That's the boss fan slam.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Which is the and he tags in and Joce's awesty
angry almish chicken plug.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I mean this is an all time tag team to me,
I mean, like le yeah, I mean this guy comes
in and does the dirt road slam, and then the
other guy does the panty drop elbow.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
And of course he does the Dana the lecture.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Well, Roadkill hits the sidewalk slam. Yeah, and uh, Roadkill
goes to the apron and yes, well he climbs up
to that top rope and he hits a springboard double clothesline.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Unbelievable. How this guy how, I mean, like this team
could have easily been in WWF invasion style, like these two.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
These guys invaded like it's over man like the show. Yeah,
the Dudleys don't have a job anymore, no way, Yeah,
these guys are taking over.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
These guys got all the moves, they are willing the
bump and they're fucking funny as shit to look at,
Like this is a TOPI here. They should have just
not did the heart attack on a dark match. What Also,
by the way, Joey Style says, hey, how much does
it cost to park a buggy here in Manhattan? And

(55:58):
Joel Gertner says, depends on how much of a depot
that the horse leaves behind.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Thick to the pussy joke.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
And then the horse there you go.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
In New York Queens, Brooklyn starts naming ship, so Roadkill
hits a t KO and Danny Dorn goes to the
top rope. Doring hits Diamond's taunt and then does the
Alabama jam.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
That's the Dana Condo.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
So Roadkill then goes to the top rope, which the
crowd is so ready for this, I mean they're going nuts.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I don't know what was coming next, and I was
super excited because he gets up there like he's on
the second. The crowd's getting fired up. He steps to
the top there losing it, and then of course Johnny
Swinger funks it up.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah, so Roadkill's taunting. The crowd's going nuts. Johnny Swinger
knocks him off the top rope and he goes to
the announced table on the outside.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Jesus he goes. He flows so far down it's a
I love the table bumps like this in ECW want
to go through the timekeeper's table because you don't know
what's happening until you hear the table break because it's
not a shot of the table size.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
It's always right under the apron.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yes, yeah, and you can't see it right So like
we're on hardcam shot, Roadkill falls to the floor off
the top.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
And goes, shit, you only know because you're a loud
noise and then e C dubec dumb.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
So c W comes in and accidentally hits Diamond, which
allows Dorian to hit a superkick. Doring then goes for
the wham bam, thank you ma'am, that's the move, but
Diamond stomps on his foot then low blows them. This
is bad cheating. C W comes in. C W comes

(57:49):
in and him and Diamond hit the problem solver, which
is that elevated assistant DDT Yes, and Diamond rolls in
and pens them and Johnny Swinger and Simon I'm and
pick up the win over Danny dor and Amish.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Roadkill makes me fucking sick actually, like I mean, come on, like,
I mean, Roe Kill and Danny Doring of course end
up getting these belts, and you know, I get it.
You know, they're trying to make something of Simon Diamond
Johnny Swinger here. But I needed to see ro Kill
and Danny Doring the winter tonight, and I needed to
see the wam bam, thank you ma'am that he kept
going for.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah, I think Roadkill and Dooring might end up like
the most over out of any of the teams in
this tournament. Yeah, at some point they're getting the biggest
reactions on all these ECW.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Shows, dude, I mean, like fucking Roadkill especially, I mean
he just puts his arms up and the whole crowd
is coming up, like that's how much power that man had.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
So we got a pre tape e c W New York.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, so Joe Gerdner at the end of that match, says,
let's see the reaction to this at e c W
New York. And I put a big question mark because
I was very confused. I was like, Oh, is this
something I don't know about. So it's some dude in
these outside of a door in New York and he says, ah,
Maddie in the house. I said, who the fuck the
fuck is this? What is going on? He says, We're
at easy W New York. We're hardcore here. You want

(59:12):
to see something that extreme, come with me. And the
guy goes inside and the entire bar top is on fire.
There's a guy on the microphone in the bar channing
e c W. Then I look, Ball's Mahoney is the bar.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
He's the guest celebrity bartender. He's the Ball's tender.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
And I'm shocked that Joe Gerner didn't say that. I'll
commentary vide.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I know, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Ball's tender.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
And pussy.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
So Ball's Mahony and some girl are standing on top
of the bar that is on fire, and she fucking
takes a drink and then spits fire, and I swear
to god, she almost fucking took it. Dude's head off
when she.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Did this, it was awesome. Yeah, she did a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
It was nuts. Yeah, like it ended up being safe,
but it did not feel it for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So anyways, I'll take the sam Man Burger with Froz.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I gotta take a drink from the guy named Balls.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
I'll take the ax of Roger Chili, Willie shake my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Let me get the Joel girt in her pussy on
the rocks and you know what, that burger sounded good?
Let me get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
That make you too, So we have any burgers here? Okay, okay, Dreamer.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Burger, she just blows fire in your face.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeah, this is ridiculous. I didn't I don't know if
this was just a one time thing to talk about spoof. Yeah, yeah,
they should have constantly did this. That'd be awesome. Why
the fuck not set this bar on fire?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So we have Tommy Dreamer and Jerry Lynn versus Rhino
and just Incredible here in the Tag team tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Next, Yes, this is a semi final match. Now, Jerry
Lynn and Tommy Dreamer advanced by beating RVD and Kid
Cash and we'll talk about that here in a second.
And just incredible and Rhino we just saw beat Jilli
William Sandman.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Of course, what is this some sort of tag festival?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Dude? Okay, I was like, I picked this one and
I was watching. I was like, oh fuck, we just
did a tag tournament.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
You can watch that tag tournament on DPW on demand
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
You should. It's a one night if you like one
night tag tournaments, which this wasn't. But if you do
like those, you should check ours out. Yeah, dep to
b Tag Festival. We've done it for three years now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
So we joined this match in progress as we go
into some crowd brawl.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah, the match wasn't as important as the East W
New York segment, so they had to cut the part
of this match.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
So Rhino throws Dreamer over the first level balcony and
then punches him down.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
It's like a mini game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
So Dreamer then grabs a fans replica ECW title and
hits Rhino with it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
I could believe it's the real one, just like you're
probably right, just grab it off a chair in the corner,
give me that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Jerry Lynn hits just incredible with a Tornado DDT in
the ring, but Francine distracts the ref.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Which is funny because she distracts him by getting on
the apron while he already hit a one count and
saying hey, and he stood up and walked over to
her like complete MPC style.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Jerry Lynn pulls her in the ring and spanks her
ass and then goes to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I like, he doesn't cut anything out there, that's what
he does from the apron, pulls her over the ass
and the givers finished.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
She has lips on her ass.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Those are real. Those are like a birthmark.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
From God. Yeah, I'll take the Samman Burger.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Look at the fancy lips all the rock.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
So jerry Ling goes to give her the cradle pile driver,
but Justin Credible makes the save with the super cake.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Which they boom.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Dreamer then hits a d D T on just In Credible.
Rhino hits a gore on Tommy Dreamer. Yes, Rhino then
hits the Rhino Driver on Dreamer through a table off
the apron.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
It was so quick he hits the gore Dreamers on
the apron before he hits the floor and was driving
up through it on the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I love that Rhino has no moves this entire night,
except for gore and Rhino driver.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
He's got.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
This is what I doing. Little Spike Dudley comes down
to a big pop. He's here with a kindow stick
and a broken.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Leg which Rhino broke.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yes, so he hits Rhino with the kindos stick or
the Singapore cane as ECW would call it, spiked and
it's the acid drop on Rhino with the broken leg.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Dude. I mean, like, huge fucking pop here for Spike.
Everything spiked in ECW was magic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I gotta give it a Spike Dudley here, man, Spike
Dudley fucking broken leg acid drop. And the way that
he did it too, is so fucking funny because like
he actually landed like on his ash cheek so he
could keep his legs straightened for this. I thought that
was so yeah, like just so good, just so attention
to detail there until he stands up and then puts

(01:04:56):
all his weight on his.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I mean the brace he has on is gigantic. It's
like half his body weight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Yeah. So Spike gets the acid drop, he mounts them
with the punches. Credible is up and gut kicks him
and then hits that's incredible. Gut kicked us in up
his tombstone finisher, then grabs him. He has a broken leg,
by the way, he couldn't just.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Hick this leg. Said I'm gonna hit your finisher, which
is very reminiscent of Justine I'm going ago where Jerry
Lynn spanked Aranci's ass and they tried to do his finisher.
They should have did that to Spike. They should have
spanked his as.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
He comes out with a broken leg, and then they
spank his ass.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Then just incredible gut kicks him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Does that's incredible off the apron through a table can
show you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Yeah, it was just like everything that happened in E
c W was just to the extreme, like just so.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Mad, like yeah, confetti kid, Spike with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Broken leg, come here, you some have a bitch. He
does like fucking Kai Mira Suplex's joke style, fucking goes
off to the top road. Blah bombshell. Oh yeah, he
kicks his leg once.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
All right, good, that's all good. Yeah, I mean, like
you can see his legs hurt. You don't gonna do
any more damage to it. I'm driving your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
So Jerry Ling comes in and spanks Spike's ass. He
does it, but he should have that ship would have
been funny as all. Jerry Lynn comes in like Spike's
trying to help him and Jerry Lynn spanks his ass.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
He just can't help himself. Now. It got such a
pop earlier that he's gonna beg be more.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Sorry. I forgot the spots Man. That's my bad. So
Lynn grabs just Incredible and hits the cradle pile driver
on Credible and then pins the world champion.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Dude, he gets to win, and they make a big
deal and said, Jerry just pin the world champion And
they say he just pinned the man he may face
for the title and anarchy rules him or Steve Carino
and Lynn and Tommy advanced to the finals of the
Tag title tournament. But can Tommy continue in the tournament
because he got Paul driven off the april through a table. Well,
if he can, he's a pussy and he should be

(01:07:34):
replaced by Roadkill, who went through a table even crazier
moments ago.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Dude, I mean off the top all the way to
the bottom. Yeah, he's a.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Big, big bastard. Like, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
So we get the ECW Wrestling dot Com part of
the show here where we're informed that you can get
all your favorite photos of the women of ECW on
the website. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
That's all that's there, dude, like no other reason. I
guess they probably were getting a ton of fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Hits from that. Yeah, I'm sure they.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, that's just so, that's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Well, we get the shows the ECW has coming up
here soon, Tony. Yeah, Tony actually had some something to
say about this show too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
So they had shows here for des Moines, Iowa, Omahonabraska
at su City, Iowa. And I was like, what they
never came? Like I remember, like the ECW never came
at that time because I would have known about it,
you know, being a big uh yeah, going to the
boy girl parties and all that back in the day.
But they did not come. And uh, there's an article
on it. It's from uh well, let me just read
this off. Welcome to this week to the news board

(01:08:36):
associated with the Under the Ring Report at under the
Ringreport dot com. So there's a newsboard here that talks
about this from Wisconsin. They have a radio show and
then they have a website under the Ring Report dot
com and they reported on this. So they said this
week in one of the most transparent cases Paul Hayman
spin doctoring. Ever, the following statement was issued on ECW
Wrestling dot com. So they did more than just photos

(01:08:56):
of women on there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
That shit. This must have been like under it was
a caption for like a Franzye boob picture.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Yeah, it was buried like way under it like the
metadata of the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Files.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
So it says ECW's live event for this weekend in
Des Moines, Iowa, all My Nebraska, and Sieux City, Iowa
have been canceled. Fans who have already purchased tickets for
these events can receive a refund from either their box
office venue or ticket master. THECW locker room has been
ravaged by injuries that are the result of our unique
style of entertainment, and ECW does not want to give
fans less than one hundred percent of what they have

(01:09:31):
come to expect. Furthermore, we want our roster as healthy
as possible for the anarchy rules. Pay for you on Sunday,
October first, and they said they will reschedule these events
if not in the distant future. We apologize to our
loyal fans. And there was transparent case of Paul Hyman
spin doctoring. There are two reports coming out about this. Actually,

(01:09:52):
ECW of Paulhyman canceled the tour for the state of
Iowa and Nebraska this weekend, the reason being Hayman will
not be able to pay Hey his wrestlers due to
the fact that he has to exchange the Canadian money
made from this past weekends tour in Canada to American money.
A number of sources have provided estimates that the time
required for exchanging Canadian to US currency is instantly to

(01:10:14):
an hour to seventy two hours. Specifically, a representative from
American Express said that it can be done within seventy
two hours maximum and also Paul Hayman could do it
online using his home computers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
So there it is. Hayman in awesome. I mean, like whatever,
like I don't got the money, fuck you, right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
So he told the fans that there were injuries with
the boys and they have to save themselves or anarchy rules,
and he told the boys that they couldn't get Canadian
money to US money. So that is pretty hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Well, I think the bigger issue here, Tony is I
think they did run a show in bumblefuck Iowa. You
should have looked for that all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
Nah, I did not see that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
That's fucking awesome. Wow. I mean, Hayman, he always had
an excuse, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Just think that is hilestious.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Everyone always believed this, telling the boy.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Yeah, it's really hard to make Canadian money into American money.
So guys, we can't run this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
It's hard. I tried to do it myself with my hands.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I mean, they were still running a lot of shows though.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Yeah, I'm assuming tickets were probably down.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Yeah, yeah, and I imagine they probably couldn't. They probably
just couldn't pay the boys either, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yeah, it's probably combination of it was probably a combination
of all three things. Really, but yeah, I imagine you know,
like maybe just wasn't selling well. I don't know how
often they ran. I know they ran Iowa, but maybe
like trying to do a tour of them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
It's just like a fun they take, you know, driving distance.
They could have run those cities, but like, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Well, the main event of the evening is upon us
Johnny Swinger and Simon Diamond versus Mikey Whipwreck and to
Jerry with the Sinister Minister versus Tommy Dreamer and Jerry
Lynn three way dance for the ECW Tag team titles.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
So RBD and Kid Cash versus Dreamer and Jerry Lynd
was a first match, and that's how Dreamer and Jerry
Lynn advanced, and RVD in that match went for the
van terminator, but just incredible hit RVD in the back
with a cane, and Rhino had some moves to do
and he said, I'm gonna do the gore, so that's
what he did.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Do and Rhino driver, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
All right, sounds good. Dreamer didn't see any of this,
by the way, this is how the which I thought
was actually a cute explanation because they were, you know,
Fonsie or I assume Fonsi had a chair in front
of Dreamer's face when RVD was setting up for the
van terminator, so he didn't see any of the shenanigans
going on, and neither did Jerry Lynn because he was
knocked out. So Dreamer gets up, he hits RVD with
apoly driver. That RVD of course does the crazy RVD

(01:12:40):
cell on where he sends himself into the air upside down,
which is fucking insane looking. By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Yeah, I love how he just gets so much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Spring out of ridiculous honestly, and like he's the only
guy I've ever seen do it, I feel like, and
he also only ever did it with Dreamer, Like he's
not doing it off a cradle cell. But I guess
maybe the cradle is a different set up or delivery.
But Dreamer also then, so he hits fucking rm D
with this crazy pile driver, and he goes out of
the ring and attacks Rhino in the aisle. Uh, Jerry

(01:13:08):
Lyne gets back in and hits Rbady. He spakes a
manity hits with the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Crypt Yeah, Jerry Lynn just picks up RVD starts spanking
his ass, and then it's Cradle apologize. I'm sorry, man,
I just it's been a long night.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
It's the thing I'm trying to do here. Like do
you guys think this is good? Like? Should I keep
this up?

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Right? I says, you can do everyone as long as
I can hit the gore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
What about the Rhino Driver? Can you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yeah? We can put that in are I actually didn't
know this is a tag team match when I first
saw it because I just I don't know. I just
didn't see k cash anywhere. So I was like, what
is this some sort of three way or sawthing? Because
then I saw a Dreamer just leave the ring after
he hit Apolo Driver. He just left the ring. I said,
what the fuck is he doing?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
He's out of here?

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, but you're right. It was an earlier match.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
In the tournament, so yes, but now it's not Vinyls.
Dreamer comes out in a neck brace, so he is
still he's still in full participation here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
No CW here for Johnny Swinger and Simon Diamond.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
You know, maybe they want to prove it themselves, the
serious duo that they are.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
I doubt it. You know, they did play up the
Tommy Dreamer thing. So Joey is wondering, like his Dreamer
going to be able to perform or is Rhino Driver
through the table. He's got the neck brace on a
big bandage. We just don't even explore that even a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Dude. It's immediate that we that is out the window,
like it's not even a part of the rest of
the match. Dreamer just takes it off and then we're
fucking over.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
We'll do a funny haja spot and then he rips
the goddamn neck brace off like guys, we don't want
to explore this at all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Dreams back like he's kicking everyone. That's the whole rest
of the matter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
I was so thrown off by that. I was like, Oh,
they're setting up for like a big babyface thing here.
So that's why my brain went to, Oh, maybe Swinger
and Diamond and might win here, dude, because.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
They were going to hit the fucking problem solver on
Dreamer in his next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Fuck yeah yeah, but they said no, no, I'll And
you're not going to get a Sam man Burger either.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
That sucks that, man, I will.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
So this is a three way dance tag team match
where the three guys are in the ring at once.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Bad call, bad call.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
This is always harder for everybody involved, including the fans,
when there's more than two legal guys in the theory
like Billy Five's, but it is always it's a good
wrestling game thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, it's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Sometimes Jerry Lynn takes down to Jerry first as Simon
Diamond looks on, and we immediately fall into What makes
this it's difficult is Simon Diamond is literally just in
the ring on his knees, watching the other two guys.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Fight he's there to get bumped around for a second
so people can laugh at him, and then he has
to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
So Diamond tries to get the jump on Jerry Lynn
but fails, which I thought position Jerry Lynn very highly here,
which is something that was important for them not to
lose going into his UH contendership matches. Yeah, Dreamer, Mikey,
and Swinger are the three in the ring now, and
then this is where they throw away the Dreamer might

(01:16:33):
be hurt thing, which I thought was really crazy. Here,
Swinger flexes and Dreamer and Mikey grab onto each one
of his arms and then throw him down. They then
do a triple headlock spot and then Dreamer rips off
his neck brace and they never acknowledge that he's hurt
throughout the entire match to yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Yeah, okay, So like Dreamer's not even hurt when he
has the neck brace on. There's not one point where
he's like, ah, my neck was way better.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
So it breaks down here. Also he takes the neck
brace off, he takes out both guys and the match
completely breaks down.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Everyone just starts fighting on the outside of the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Here dream is kicking everyone's ass.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
So Lynn throws Diamond into a big trash bin. To
Jerry starts smothering Dreamer with a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Chair, Dude, these are super nice chairs too, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
If you today did, the show would be stopped. I
mean if we see those chairs so much, dude. Yeah,
if we see those type of chairs in an arena,
there's like an all points bulletin, do not fuck with
these chairs. Do not go into the crowd. Don't love
that these chares. We will get fucked in this building.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah, which is so funny because at those shows are
all the times people want to do show with chairs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
They're just too nice looking. They just want to fuck
it off, you know. To Jerry's smothers Dreamer with the
nice chair in front of a guy and a no
sleeve tuxedo.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Shirt, Well he's there for a fucking party, buddy, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
All timer early two thousands tea is the no sleeve
tuxedos shirt. That's what it's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Also the Kevin Steen shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
You're right with the nose sleeves too. Yes, stem was
a little better cutting the sleeves off. This guy just
took a hags off, throw it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
A little like the tech was better when Steve had
of this guy didn't have YouTube tatorials.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
So Lynn hits a sidewalk backbreaker for a two in
the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
No one gives a fuck about what's going on in
the ring, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
That's why he I think that's why Lynn was just
doing shit. Yeah, I don't think they were trying anything
in the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
So funny because he does that ship and he gets
like a two count, and you can see the guys
in the front row that are very not very obviously
not watching the ring. They hear the ref counting and
they turn back real quick because he was a two,
and then go back to watching what else was going on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
So to Jerry Supplex's Dreamer on the floor in the crowd,
very slippery. Jerry Lynn locks in a bow and arrow
on Diamond in the ring, one of the better looking
bow and arrows I've seen in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Sadly, no one cared, which is upsetting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Mikey crotches Dreamer on the guardrail and I'm questioning if
they're cutting this match up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Is it? Because to Jerry was already croutched in front
of him on the guard.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Rail, like, it's definitely cut off.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Here, right, It's either cut up or they missed shots right,
like the camera maybe they didn't have enough cameramen to
catch everything or something. Okay, But because that's what I because, yeah,
I had to put the pieces together. Because I'm watching
Dreamer get crouched and I see to Jerry already crotched
on the guardrail.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I was just like, uh, he was just hanging out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
That's how he chills heart for something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
So to Jerry and Lynn are now working together in
the ring on Simon Diamond. Dreamer and Mikey are working
together on the other side of the ring on Johnny's Swinger.
They both set them up in a double crotch step
in the Tree of Woe in stereo and do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Pete Williams move, I guess you could.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Say yeah, like the anthem move.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Yes, and they stomp his dick, both their dicks, just
the ship like this is a greatious good cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
And then and then they do a double steel chaared
tree WOA drop kick in stereo.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Well it was attempted in stereos. They happened in succession
if anything. Sadly, to Jerry.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Then offers a handshake to Jerry Lynn and then kicks
him right in the head and Dreamer lines Mikey.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
I don't know why Dreamer had to take his out
on Mikey. Mike, he shook his head.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
So to Jerry and Tommy. Dreamer then do stereo tarantulas
on opposite side the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Which doesn't make any fucking sense. Why is Tommy Dreamer
doing the terrestula?

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Why is he doing that? He's ever done that before.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
There's no other move he could have hit. Fucking Mike
Maybe you're one of your I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Bet you, I bet you. Like they were putting the
match together and someone mentioned, like, do you want to
do anything with the neck brace or anything. He said, no,
I'd like to do stereo tarantulas with the jury and
they said all right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Well yeah, well you're booking now, Tommy, So I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Guess I mean you're like the hed guy here, dude,
diamond swinger do double drop kicks on respective sides of
the ring to the guy in the tarantula.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Mikey and Lynn hit stereo tornado ddts and both go
for the pins at the same time for two.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
What cute events here, all in stereo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah, I thought that was cool. Dreamer reverses the whipper
Snapper into a DDT, but c W pulls Dreamer out
at two and then c W hits Dreamer with a chair.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
As hard as that's why he's the enforcer. It's so
fucking funny because he kills Dreamer with his chair and
the crowd goes oh. And in the ring, Simon Diamond's
doing a gord buster, so like if you weren't really
paying attention, you could think that they popped huge for
Simon Diamond's move.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
So c W throws him back in the ring, Diamond
hits the gordbuster. Diamond and Swinger hit the problem solver
on Dreamer and pin him to eliminate Jerry Lynn and
Tommy Dreamer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Not because his neck was bad, just because that's their finish.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Because c W interfered and they hit their finished. Not
to do with Ryana bad cheating, uh to Jerry and
Mikey hit an assistant pedigree for a.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Two that was fucking crazy, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
I didn't know where he was going with and I'll
be honest, I was like, where are they doing? What
are they doing?

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
I thought Simon Diamond was got about to get paralyzed.
I thought it was a double.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Team tiger drive like a Jay driller or something. He
throws his legs off.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
And was way a better call there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
So Swinger hits the swing thing onto Jerry and they
hit the double flat liner for a two.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
The locker room clears out and they are at ringside
and like they fight in the ring. Yeah, Rhino's probably
running out. Why aren't you selling your neck? He walks
by him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I don't care, not my match.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Why is Jerry specing everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
I don't know what you want? Next?

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Swinger gets to Jerry up for a doomsday uh but
to Jerry miss diamond from on top of Swingers shoulders
to the top road.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Fantastic. I knew it was coming and I was still
super excited for it because, like did jury, the Jury's
missed out of Nowhere is like one of my favorite
wrestling spots. Like Nowhere, no matter where you jump from
or what position you're in, he can spit in your
face and it'll funk you up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
You never know where it's coming from. It's dog. Yeah,
it's awesome to Jerry then hits a German souplex on
Swinger and Mikey hits a whipper snapper off the top
rope on Simon Diamond pins him for the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Three dude, big fucking pop for these guys, by the way,
like you know, uh, they're they're kind of like dooring
and roadkill in like a you know, just a different way,
just you know how they wrestle on all but like the.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
FBI better watch out, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Okay, So I think I think the match after this
is like FBI against a Jerry and Mikey and the
losing team has to like break.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Up or some ship, yeah, or the FBI just has
to break up if they lose or spoilers.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
The FBI win them like immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah, well I mean, forget about it, shut up on
your face.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
But huge pop for the unholy alliance of did you
You're and Mikey getting to win new fucking Champs. The
teams all get in and they're celebrating with them. They
pick them up on their shoulders. Super cool visual and
they son commentary next week they'll defend the Belts against
the FBI, and just a cool way to end the show.
And I'm sitting there and I'm watching, I'm like, oh,
that was fun. And then the show ends and I'm
left confused because there was supposed to be news from

(01:25:19):
dam on the show they lost, Well I lost that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
I want to call and let you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Fun show though. I love I love watching these. Uh
these easy to be either on TNN or hardcore TV episodes.
They're they're always fucking action packed, like there's always something happening,
even if there's a bunch of promos on them, they're
short if there's not promos, The matches are all tight
and and everyone's fucking going balls to the wall. And
I thought it was, you know, a unique show. I
don't know how often they show this much of a

(01:25:50):
tournament or you know, the the finals of a tournament
happening on TV and not out of pay per views.
Pretty cool. So yeah, and I enjoyed my time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
They finished the whipper Snapper off the was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
What a great move.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah, it was dog.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
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