Drinking In Movies & “A Star Is Born” (2018) featuring Shalewa Sharpe

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Casey O'Brien, Hi, Miliated Jericho. How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh great? I mean you know what we're doing right now?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, we are doing a new podcast. You and I
both of us making a movie podcast together. It's thrilling,
it's terrifying, and uh, it's liberating all at once. That's right.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, this is our very first episode and we're really
excited because we've got a lot of stuff to cover.
First off, we're gonna kick off the show with something
we're calling Film Diary, and I was wondering, Casey, can
you tell them what it is?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah? I can do that. This is our the movies
we've watched, like in the last week, and we're gonna
be discussing the movies we have most recently watched. Now,
these are not necessarily recommendations. This is just like our extracurriculars.
These are our studies as film enthusiasts. You know, we're
trying to, like mine through all of film, of all

(00:55):
of time. You know, both of us were both students
of film. So these aren't necessarily recommendations. Some of these
might suck, frankly, a.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Lot of them will probably a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, yes, you gotta break a lot of eggs, kiss
a lot of frogs.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Also, we're going to talk about drinking in the movies,
so you know, movies that feature complete drunks or people
that are trying to get off the stuff. Whatever it is,
we're going to be talking about it. But we're also
going to really like hammer into one movie in particular,
and that is twenty eighteen's US Star Is Born, featuring

(01:30):
Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. And we might even talk
a little bit about Bradley Cooper as a director as well.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
And today we have the wonderful comedian in Chile with Sharp.
She's on to talk about her area of expertise, which
was important to both of us when you say, Millie.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh yes, we had a very emotional conversation with Chilea.
How about a topic that is, you know, near and
deer to all of our hearts, which is the Magic
Mike franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Oh so fabulous. Much more to come on Dear Movies,
I Love You, Dear.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I Love you, and I've got to.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Love me to.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Check the box. Welcome everyone to Dear Movies, I Love You.
This is a podcast for those who are in a
romantic relationship with film.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's right. Those who are down bad for film, those
who have a crush on film, those are using movies
as a way to fill your sexual and amorous holes
into your life. I don't know if that's the right
way of expressing that, but it's for those who sincerely,
sincerely love film and about it very deeply.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
That's right. I am one of your hosts, Millie to Jericho.
I used to host a film podcast. Yep. It was
called I Saw What You Did. It was on this
very network. It's probably on the feed that you're listening
to right now.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
This is the same feed. It's the same channel.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, you can go back and listen to all two
hundred something episodes of it if you want to. But
I did that podcast with my co host Daniel Henderson,
who is one of my dearest friends. And Casey, you
were a part of that podcast too. You were actually
the producer of that podcast, right.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's right. I produced that wonderful podcast. And this is
sort of, you know, a phoenix rising out of the
ashes of I Saw What You Did. And I'm just
so thrilled and thankful that you wanted to have me
be a part of this show. Millie in this capacity.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
That's right. I mean, you know, it's not unlike a
star is born if you think about it. I did
find you in a total dump, yeah, plucked you out
of obscurity and put you on That's right. But anyway,
the thing about doing a podcast with you is that
this is like a new thing. I'm very excited by it.
I know a little bit about you. I won't say

(04:13):
I know everything about you, but I do know that
you've got a lot of film bonafides, which makes you
qualify a toast podcast with me, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Sure? I guess so. First of all, I produced an
excellent movie podcast before this one called I Saw What
You Did. As we've already covered, I've produced several movie podcasts.
But also, like you, Millie, I went to film school,
and so hopefully, you know, we can throughout the course
of this podcast, we can get some of those, like
you know, film school tales, and we can bring up

(04:44):
our time in film school, because that's sort of a
funny time in everyone's life. So anyways, went to film school.
I also would consider myself a filmmaker, would because I
do make short films and I'm working on a feature
film right now, and I really love movies. They're a
big part of my life and my creative identity. I

(05:07):
also used to host a film podcast that's called fart
House where we talked about artsy fartsy films, and I
did that with my friend Patrick mallin.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
What's up Patrick? Listen, like you might be wondering. I mean,
I think obviously if you're a fan of iesolog did
you have heard many episodes where Danielle and I had
talked about you know, film bros. You know, you know
the type film bros. Sure, we're trying to, like, you know,
bring some other people to the table. And so for me,

(05:38):
the idea that I would be hosting a new film
podcast with a guy who went to film school, you know,
might be kind of unexpected. But guess what, you're a
good one. You're not a film bro.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You're not a film bro. I will stand by that
one thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Millie. I think that
it's not unlike Wharf in Star Trek. You know, he's
a Klingon and a lot of people have you know,
thoughts about him. As you know, the Klingon race is
very violent, but you know, people just need to understand
that Wharf is a gentle soul, and you know, over
time they accept him.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
So I'll just be plain honest with you. Have no
idea what you just said. I've never seen star Trek
in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
That's fine. I won't bring it up again on the show.
But anyways, I appreciate that. And I think you know
more than just film brodum. You know, I think there's
a kind of there can be kind of a lot
of rules in terms of and they're all imagined of course,
but like there's a lot of pressure to think about

(06:46):
movies in a very specific way. A lot of that is,
you know, it tends to be from like a more
male point of view, and it's kind of like these
are the good movies, these are the bad movies. If
you like these movies, you're cool. If you like these movies,
you drool, you know. And I think this podcast wants

(07:07):
to kind of dash away any sort of pretension or
you know, rules about what you need to do in
order to consider yourself a lover of movies. You know,
if you sincerely love a movie, even if it's considered
you know, a bad movie by some that should be celebrated,

(07:30):
and that's what this podcast is about. It It's about
like enjoying film at all levels. Yes, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I agree, and I also think it's important to say that,
you know. I mean, I think obviously the title of
this podcast here Movies, I Love You, the icon that
pops up when you pull it up on your podcast platform.
You know, the idea that one of our favorite bands
of all time, the Softies, has done the wonderful theme song.
It all contributes to this idea of like again having

(07:59):
a crush on a film, having an emotional relationship to movies,
and how movies are a big part of people's lives
and they help them through like hard times and good times.
I mean, I cry all the time in movies and
they don't have to be sad. I cry at happy movies.
I cry it sweet movies, I cry it you know,

(08:20):
violent films. Like I am such an emotional person that
I you know, I've realized this over several years of therapy.
I'm a very emotional person. And I think kind of
what you're alluding to, like with the things that you've
just said, is that like a lot of times, you know,
film is one of those mediums where people feel like
they got to be like super analytical or they have

(08:41):
you know, they got to come at it in a
very kind of sterile way in order to seem legitimate
or something. And I'm like, fuck that. We should be
talking about our crush on movies and talking about how
much we love it and how much they get us
through our lives and how they're a part of our lives.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
So that's what it's.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Gonna be, guys. It's not gonna be this whole like, well,
the box office numbers from nineteen eighty nine show that
this movie did five percent better. Fuck that. I mean,
if that comes up, it comes up. But for the
most part, you know, we're gonna be a little sensitivo.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, we're gonna be sensitivo. I'm a very emotional person,
you know. I've said before that I consider myself a
soft straight I'm a softy, and I love rom Coms
are like kind of my favorite genre of film. But
I also I'll throw on Salo. Wait, who's the director
of Salo Pasolini? Pasolini, which is a movie that is

(09:38):
one of the most I don't know, sexually violent and
perverse and there's a lot of like eating poop in it,
and uh.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Great date night movie.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Great date night movie. But it's a very extreme art
house movie from the seventies. Is that one it's from?
But anyways, you know, I can throw on that movie
as much as I can throw on you know, Sleepless
in Seattle, a movie I truly love. So I think
this is more about the emotional connection to film rather
than any sort of intellectual debate or study of film.

(10:15):
If that all makes sense.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It all totally makes sense.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I mean, we are intellectuals, we're emotional intellectuals, exactly, That's right.
I think that's I think that is what brings us
together and why we thought this show would be good
is because I think we both seem so tough and
hard on the outside, but on the inside we're just
we're marshmallows. You know, We're a big softies.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We're not unlike John Wick, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
We're exactly like in so many ways, We're exactly like
John that's right.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
But you know what, also, I like about you, Casey,
and part of the reason why I poached you from
the film podcast streets to be on a podcast with
me I like that you understand that high art and
low art they both are able to sit at the
same table. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Absolutely, yeah. I think that way about food too.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I used to work at a very fancy restaurant in
La Jelina and love the food there. But I'm a
frequent McDonald's. I'm in there getting a McRib you know,
on the regular when it's there. So yes, I agree,
high and low they're the same. They sit at the
same table.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
For me, if I were to like talk about my
own career and the things that I've done, like programming
and writing and things like, you know, sort of being
sort of general film historian type, I think that's kind
of how I approach That's how I approach film, is
that I'm like, I want to speak in a smart,
intellectual kind of I don't know, competent way about all

(11:42):
kinds of shit. It can be high brow, but it
also there is a way to talk about show Girls
and ed Wood and you know, ye like truly depraved
cinema at the same time that you talk about I
don't know, more sort of intellectual fair kind of criterion collection,
any type of things, if you.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Will, yes to me.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's kind of what I like about us both is
that we're able to kind of get you a man
that can do both type of feeling.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, So and all are welcome at this table, all
levels of filmdom. We'll be excited to listen to this show.
We'll talk about, you know, art house filmmakers like ingmar Bergman,
but we'll also talk about silly movies like Adam Sandler's
Who Be Halloween. I don't know, that's just an example
a movie I like who But anyways, that's sort of

(12:32):
the crux of our new podcast, our new endeavor together,
and we're psyched. We psyched about it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
We just wanted to do a little intention setting before
we rolled out all the other episodes. But hopefully you're
on the ride with us. I mean, if you liked
I saw what you did, you're gonna like this podcast.
So we're excited. Here we go, We're excited to be here.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well, moving on, our first segment is called film Diary, Millie.
One way of keeping track of the movies we've watched
is on a social media app that we both use,
and I'd love if listeners followed us on there because
the comments I'm making on these movies are hilarious, cannot

(13:12):
be ignored. Yeah, they can follow us on there. You
like letterbox as an app, you use it, you're a user.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm a user, of course. I talked about this on
my substack once about how I probably use letterbox in
the wrong way, which is that I'm not like consistently using.
So here's letterbox right. If you haven't been on it before,
It's basically a way for you to kind of catalog
the movies that you've seen. You know, there's an ability

(13:39):
to rate it like five star, you know, one to
five stars or no stars. You can leave reviews. There's
a kind of social component to where you can friend
other people and see what they've been watching and see
what they've been reviewing. So it's kind of just like
a big social media platform for movie nerds.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
And there are.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Definitely power users out there who are writing like thousand
word essays on every movie they've seen. Yes, I am
real Lucy Goosey about it. I definitely catalog everything that
I've seen, so my film diary is always accurate. Am
I reviewing things all the time? No Am I writing
intelligent things in those reviews? No Am I rating it

(14:24):
with the star system, not all the time. That's another
topic for another time. By the way, is the star
rating system on letterbox Maybe that's a film grape we
can talk about. Sure, yes, because it's very contentious and
I've gotten called out on it before, But please find
us on there because it's a way for us. We're
going to be like talking about Letterboxed a lot because

(14:44):
this is like again where we're cataloging what we've seen.
But first and foremost, I have to say, Casey, I
don't know if you remember this at all, but it took.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You eight I'm going to be upset that you're bringing
I'm an upset that you're bringing people. Continue no, that.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
It took you a very long time to friend me
back on letterbox.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
So MILLI followed me on. And it's not exactly like
you're not really friends on a letterbox. You basically follow
someone and then they can follow you back. It's not
like accepting a friend request on Facebook and you're mind,
it's not it was for me, okay, Well, Milly had
followed me on letterboxed and I went about my life

(15:30):
after that after and I don't know if I missed
the notification or something. But it took me maybe a
year before I followed you back, and I mentioned it
kind of like, oh, MILLI, isn't it funny. I just
I didn't realize you were on letterbox. I can't believe
it took me so long to follow you back, and

(15:50):
you were like, yeah, I noticed.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
It was an offensive amount of time that went by, Like,
let me just tell you right now, I had not
only readed you, but it actually commented on one of
your reviews.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I know, I think I had just I assumed I
had followed you back. I think that's what happened. I
think I had assumed. There's no way I didn't follow
you back, but I fucked up. I don't know what
you want me to say here.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was like, okay, we work on a film podcast together.
We're like in communication pretty much every other day. I know,
I friended this guy because I want him to feel
included in what we're fucking doing around here, and it
took him a year to follow me back. Anyway, I'm
just I'm just saying, sure that broke me for a while,

(16:42):
but then you fix itself and I forgive you, and
now we're obviously doing a podcast together.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now we're having a podcast together.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I've let it go well, and like there's other functionality
on there too that like you can come up with lists.
I'm a big list person.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I also you know, like I actually love the review
component because there are people, like I said, who are
using it like as like they're writing for Rogerdieber dot
com type of thing. But then there are people who
are like putting one two sentences about, you know, the
thing that they've watched.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's how I do it. I do one or two sentences,
and I like that. I prefer that as a user
to read. I don't really want to read an essay
on here, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh I know. And a lot of times it's like
and this is the way I do it, but the
other people do it this way too. It's like the
funniest observation about a movie. Yes, and I actually had
one go sort of VIVI. I gotta say, wow, my
review for a Complete Unknown where I talked about I
don't know if you've seen it yet, I won't spoil.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
It haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well, there's a moment of that movie that happens which
is a non spoiler, but it was like the weirdest
thing to me. That was like the one thing I
couldn't stop thinking about, and then I wrote it and
then all of a sudden, it's like ping, ping, ping,
Everyone's like, we love it, we love the review. So
that's what I like about Letterboxes that it's kind of
like again, I think it's a high low where you
could either be really like deliberate and professional about it,

(18:04):
or you can be a fucking goon like me.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah. Well, here's kind of one of my favorite reviews.
This is ao Ata Biri. If you ever follow, she's
a great follow on Letterbox. This is her review of
The Empire Strikes Back. This movie is great, but I
was really shocked by how ugly Yoda was. Sorry if
that pisses anybody off, but I had only seen baby
Yoda and adult Yoda is fucking busted. I mean that's
the whole review. So it's great. Yeah. Anyways, this isn't

(18:30):
an ad for Letterbox, but we love it and I
use it all the time, and it's where I keep
track of all the movies I've watched in the past.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
That's right. I mean, if the Letterbox wants to give
us a check, we'll take it. But I'm just saying,
this is what we're gonna be using. Let's go into
this film diary.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Fabulous.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
So in the past week, I've gone down this like
kind of strange rabbit hole. So I discovered this Japanese
director recently. And I don't actually know how I discovered it.
I feel like I'm following some kind of Instagram account
that's like an Asian film archive. I think it's actually
what it's called. And they posted a trailer or something

(19:11):
about this movie. And the movie is called Hawu hr
U okay. It was directed by this Japanese director. His
name is Yoshi Mitsu Marita Okay. This movie's from nineteen
ninety six. And for some reason, when I saw the trailer,
I was like, this seems so charming, Like I think
his filmography, if I'm not mistaken, I'm not like a

(19:32):
scholar on him yet. But he was making movies in
like most of his movies came out in like the
eighties and nineties, which is a real for me, kind
of like a gap I don't I have, you know,
I started thinking, like have I watched a lot of
Japanese movies from the eighties and nineties, like and then
as the more I kind of was reading about him

(19:54):
and sort of that era. I think actually, and like
I said, I don't want to say that this is
the general le attitude, but I've read that, you know,
people kind of actually perceived that Japanese filmmaking in the
eighties wasn't very good, like they weren't making good movies
generally in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Interesting, And so I came into.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It going, Okay, so this is supposed to be like
an era of like bad Japanese filmmaking. Yet I walked
into this movie and was like completely charmed by it.
It was It's essentially a movie. I mean, this is
this movie is probably like as close to this film
podcast as we can get. It's essentially a woman who
is a cinophile. She's a single woman, a school teacher

(20:35):
living in Japan, and she's a cinopile. And she then
she gets on like a movie message board. And this
is ninety six, so this is early internet days.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
This is just like, inject this into my veins. I know,
this sounds wonderful and I've never heard of this guy
or this movie.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, and it basically it's like a lot of the
movie is there kind of like literally on screen, like
sending messages on the message board. It's like her and
this other person, and the other person at first is
you know, kind of presents as a woman, but then
it's actually a man, you know, because back in the day,
you can really fool people about being you know, like

(21:13):
I mean, I guess you could still catfish people now.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Oh, catfishing is thriving right.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Now, yeah, thriving. But back in like ninety six, man,
you could literally be anybody. And so they kind of
developed this, you know, I don't know, this online sort
of a pistolary relationship and they're kind of like he's
in a bad marriage or he's in a kind of
weird spot in his life, and they just kind of
bond together and it's this kind of like you got

(21:38):
mail in Japan in the nineties over the internet.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Oh my god, that's so cute. That's in a file.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, And I'm like, oh, it was lovely.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's so interesting, you say, like not knowing Japanese movies
from the eighties or nineties, and I was just thinking,
I was like, I don't really either, except for one
of my favorite movies of all time, Tom Popo by
Juzi Atami, which is also like the cutest movie in
the world. Yeah, and so like, it definitely feels like
it's an area that I want to explore and I

(22:11):
definitely want to check out. Is it Yoshi Mitsu Marita
his movies Maurita, Yeah, these look incredible.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, and then I actually watched another one because I
liked Taru so much.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So there's this movie that he made in nineteen eighty
four called Main Theme. And I got to tell you,
I don't think it's online anywhere. I had to go through,
you know, the dark web, the.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Dark web nefarious and Millie she's in the dark web
all too often always.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean, actually I get I get my groceries
from the dark Web. You know, it's yes, you know,
I just use it for everything now why not?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
But this movie Main Theme, Oh my god. That movie
was also incredible. It was also kind of a romance,
but it had this like super whimsical It was kind
of like an umbrellas of Schoreberg feel.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, and it was the colors.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Were amazing, saying, I don't know, just the setups, the
camera work, the colors, the costumes, everything. I was like,
who the hell is this director? And why have I
just figured him out?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah? So amazing, that's great.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So what about you now, you've gotta tell me?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Oh my god. Okay, so full disclosure here. I'm in
a bit of a horror movie zone right now, and
so all of these are horror or horror adjacent and
these ain't elevated. I'll tell you that much. I saw
this kibbit Qua film called Humanist Vampire seeking consenting suicidal person.

(23:39):
What very cute that's on twenty twenty three. Wow title,
it's very cute. It feels like what I'll leave you.
I'll read my letterbox review. It's Only Lovers Left Alive
meets Twilight because it's about kind of like a It's
very cute, see, but it's also very twee. I'm like
over the vampires who are like, I don't want to
kill people. That's like, I find that annoying now, and

(24:01):
I am sure vampires are you know? They they should
murder people. That's that's what I took away from that.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Are you with Twilight?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Were you indoctrinated? I've never read any of these books,
but I was in college when all of those movies
came out. And all of my gal pals were obsessed
with it, and so unfortunately, I have seen every single
Twilight film at midnight on the day it came out.
So wow, I know a lot about it. I think

(24:29):
people like like them now in retrospect, those are bad movies.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You'll be surprised to know a little bit of a
Twilight apologist. I kind of I've watched all of them. Really,
Oh yeah, and I was way too old should could
be into it? Like, I mean, I want did the
first one come out.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Like two thousand and eight nine? May?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I mean, I was a grown ass woman in a
full time job when those movies came out. I have
no business. But you know, here's what I will say
about that. I actually kind of feel that I might
like them better now knowing who Robert Pattinson and Christian
Stewart became.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
True, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Absolutely, Like I go backwards now and I'm like, oh,
these these are like two cool people making cool films, Like, yeah,
I don't know they made a bunchet teen shit, it's
kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I don't well, And I saw them at the height
of my like shithead stage because I was in film school.
I was like, this isn't you know, this isn't like
the Wurkmeister harmonies, like this sucks you know, or whatever
the name of that Bellatar film is. But I think
I do need to revisit them because I think they
would be fun to watch. Now, Yeah, I agree, Yeah,

(25:37):
Twilight worth a revisit. Then I watched Okay, I saw
this movie that I thought was incredible and I feel
like it should be more famous. It's called Black Rainbow.
It's directed by Mike Hodges. It's starring Rosanna Arquette and
Jason Robard's have you seen this movie? It was just
re released by Aero Video on Blu Ray. Like Harvey

(25:59):
Weinstein and Mirrmax totally fucked up the release of this
movie so it went straight to cable, so like nobody
knows about it. But it's really good. It's about a
traveling psychic played by Roseenna Arcuat her father Jason Robards,
and they're kind of a you know, shysters. They like
are kind of scamming people. But then she starts getting
visions of people actually dying. That's really good. I thought

(26:20):
it was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I will not confuse it with Black mouthed Super Rainbow,
which is a band from Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Okay, that's good. And I believe there's a movie beyond
the Black Rainbow. Okay, that's a different movie. Okay, that's
by Ponos Cosmatos of Mandy Fame. Oh that's a different film.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Okay, get it right, get it right, pay the price.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Did you ever watch Salute Your Shorts on Nickelodeon?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
What are you asking me right now?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
What you've seen Salute your Shorts?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Are you fucking kidding me? Dude? Do you seem like every.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Epp Okay doesn't ugg say? Yeah, get it right?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Or pay the price?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, okay, says it?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, butt Nick screwed it up.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, okay, I'm just glad. I just wanted to make
sure we're on the same page when it comes to
Salute your Shorts, and now I know we are, and
so we can move forward with recording the podcast. And
then the last movie I watched last night, which I'd
never seen before, The Crow.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I thought it was great.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
The O G.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Crow, not Bill sars Guard's The Crow, Brandon Lee's The Crow.
I have been told I look like Bill. Good movie
by two different people.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Wait, move your move your face away from micros. I
mean a little bit.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I'm loath to say such a thing because he's like
one of the hottest men on the planet. Or I
think he's very hot me too, I will say two
people told me that, but still a thrill.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I would say, you were a little bit Casey Affleck
meets Bill Scar's guard.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay, okay, have you been told about case I get
told Casey Affleck frequently, and my name is Casey.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And maybe it's because your name is Casey, right, except
I get Casey Affleck, Casey Affleck and who else? Oh,
Paul Rudd, Paul, Wow, you just happen to look like
all the hottest men in Hollywood right now, and I
do not. That's what I'm trying to underscore.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
And that's my burden, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Okay, So that was our film diary. How'd you feel good?
First one?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I feel good. It felt like writing in a real diary.
I feel relieved of some emotional baggage.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
It's good. Well, okay, now we're moving into our main discussion,
which is, again, like I said, twenty eighteen's a Star
is Born. We're gonna talk about drinking in movies. But first, Casey,
I have a question for you. Do you participate in
what they call dry January?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Now, this is a great question I have, But here's
a I have a huge problem with dry January. My
birthday is in January, and that's gonna be wet. You know,
I'm not gonna that I refuse to not drink on
my birthday because it's in dry January. And also, my

(29:22):
daughter's birthday is now in January. Now maybe I shouldn't
be drinking. You know, it shouldn't necessarily be a cause
for drinking, but there'll be a party, and I would
be sad if I couldn't have like a beer at
my daughter's birthday party, which my daughter's birthday is the
day before my birthday. Isn't that funny?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
But I do think it is nice sometimes to dry
out a little bit and just you know, reconfigure because
I am a drinker, but it's good to you know,
kind of reconfigure your system. I feel like I kind
of participate, is my answer in dry January.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Sure, Okay, okay, that makes sense. I was thinking about
this obviously because it's such a huge topic right now. Yeah,
we're at the beginning of the New year, Happy twenty
twenty five, and a lot of my friends are doing
this dry January thing. Yes, white knuckling it.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It's so interesting because I'm kind of like, okay, a,
when did we start, Like, I don't remember dry January
when I was a kid, Like I don't remember people's parents.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
No, I mean, it feels like it's like ten years old.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah. And then it's sort of that feeling too where
I'm like, I get that it's in sort of a
mode of, you know, we're in a new Year's resolution
phase where we're trying to be better people for a
little while and then it all falls apart. But I'm
also like, I guess it's because I am not like
a huge drinker, so I don't need a dry January,

(30:50):
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, I think it's like people will go extra hard
leading up to dry January and then go real hard
after Judy January, and it's kind of like, well, why
this isn't good? You know, moderation is best.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, and so it got me thinking, you know, because
you know, it's our first episode, it's the first of
the new year, and so I was like kind of
thinking let's maybe talk a little bit about you know,
classic movie drunks or like movies about drinking, and you know,
not all of it is fun all the time. Yeah,
like charismatic drunks, but mean drunks. Yeah, and you know

(31:27):
the whole gamut.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, it's interesting because there aren't that many movies
where it's like a celebration of drinking without it being
about alcoholism, yes, you know, or like the downside of imbibing.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, and like, so I started thinking about, like, what
was the last movie that I remember seeing that just
really was truly about alcoholism, the darkest alcoholic, like maybe
a movie you'd watch that would inspire you to adopt
a dry jannywhere sure it's something really hardcore. And I
was like, I think the last one I saw was

(32:04):
A Star's Board, the remake, the most recent remake of it, Yes,
which was such a juggernaut when it came out. Did
you not feel that?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oh? Absolutely? And it's one of those movies. When I
saw the trailer, I was like, Oh, this is gonna
be so bad. I just thought, I don't know, like
I was like, I was like, it's Bradley Cooper's first movie.
It's obviously like this Passion project. It just I feel
like it had things going against it. It had kind
of a goof goofy moment in the trailer that was
like memed and is still memed, you know the you know,

(32:37):
but I love this movie and I was really blown
away and it was a juggernaut and it's the first
movie in a while where it was like, oh, it's
a big hit movie with stars and there's a huge
song attached to it. Like that was fun. It kind
of was a throwback to old blockbusters in a way
where there's like a hit song kind of attached and

(32:58):
embedded in the movie itself, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah. Yeah. Like so I decided that I was gonna
rewatch it actually during the Christmas break because I think
it was on like I don't know, Paramount, so you
know how it's just like movies. I was like, oh, cool,
a nice holiday movie where Bradley Cooper drinks himself to death. Amazing.
So I watched it at my parents' house and I

(33:22):
gotta say, it's still really enjoyable. Yeah, And here's the
thing that I thought was really interesting about this version
of it, because if you don't know, I don't know
how you how you wouldn't at this point a stars
Board is this like very storied franchise really at this point, Yeah,
it almost seems like it gets remade like every twenty
thirty years. You know. The original, the very first Stars

(33:47):
Born was made in nineteen thirty seven, and it was
a William Wellman movie. I'm a huge fan of William Wellman,
the director, and that is my actual favorite version of
the story. Wow is thirty seven because first of all,
it's like, well, it's the it's the original meeting. The
story you know, sort of is contained in its own

(34:09):
like little universe, right, But also the lead actor of
that film, Frederick March, who is I don't know if
listeners really no Frederick March. I mean he's kind of
he's a he's a very famous actor of the thirties,
but you know, isn't like a Gary Cooper say. He
was very you know, like kind of under the radar.

(34:31):
I say, if you are a Frederick March fan, we
should be friends, because you're a real head, you know
what I mean. That's how cool Frederick March is. He's
like the big star of nineteen thirties comedic actors.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's in a movie I like called I Married a Witch.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Of course, yes, with Ronica Lake. Yeah, Frederick March is
the most charming drunk in cinema history for my money, Like,
and this is what makes the Stars for the original
the best because obviously same premise. This guy, famous guy
you know, meets this kind of like you Hollywood upstart
on Jenue type. They form a relationship. Then she quickly realizes, oh,

(35:05):
he's like a fucking alcoholic who like can't handle a shit,
and what do I do? I'm ascending my stars on
the rise. This guy is falling on his ass and
you know, peeing himself in front of the Oscars or
whatever it was. But it's like she loves him, she's
tied to him. That's the you know, the baseline of
of the franchise, right, But Frederick March is so charming

(35:28):
and funny and like sweet that I truly feel like
I do not want this guy to fail, Like I
want him to get a shit together and I want
him to like win, but as you know, spoiler alert,
he can't win. Yeah, there's got to be tragedy. There's
got to be tragedy.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
So that's something I want to ask you about because
you have you seen all of the Stars Born?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yes, I would say the Stars Board is like my
star trek.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Sure. Sure many have said that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Like I am very committed, Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
And so I have to I have a few questions
because I have only seen the Bradley Coop Lady Gaga won,
And honestly, I'm sorry, but spoiler alert to the heavens
on this, I'm not holding back on the ending of this. Sure,
does the male protagonist pee his pants in front of
people in all of them? Or was that just in

(36:16):
the Lady Gaga Bradley Cooper won?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So what happens in the thirties version is that he
accidentally hits her? Oh? I think so? Basically like she
goes to the awards, he does his Holy La, you know,
interrupts the speech, and then he throws his arm back
and hits her like on accident, and everyone's like, oh, okay,

(36:40):
that's what happens in thirty seven. Now, I haven't seen
the seventies one in a while. I actually don't think
it's in there at all. And then the James Mason version, No,
I don't think he pisses himself because they wouldn't have
allowed that in the fifties.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I can't see James Mason pissing his pants on screen.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, I feel like that was something that Adley Coops. Yeah,
you know, he put his own stank on that moment. Yes.
So let me ask you this because I have a
huge fascination with Bradley Cooper as a director.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So this be his first movie that he's directed. He
went ham right, because he's in the movie, he's saying
some of the songs. He you know, adopted this like
almost kind of like this new persona, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah? Absolutely, It's like kind of like Austin hippie cowboy guy,
you know.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, he's like maybe having a drink at Pappy
and Harriet's in Pioneertown or something. You know.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Can I interrupt you? I have something to say to
that matter. I have a personal connection to this film.
How I went to college with Lucas Nelson, Willie Nelson's son. Okay,
he co wrote all the music with Bradley Cooper for
this movie, and Bradley Cooper based his personality on Lucas Nelson.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Is that a known fact?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
There are articles about this?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Okay, I didn't know Lucas that well. We hung out
a few times, and then he'd left college after his
freshman year to become a rock star and lead the
band Lucas Nelson in the Promise of the Reel My
Good Friend, though Logan Metz was in the band The
Promise of the Reel. Oh wow, and Lucas Nelson is

(38:26):
in A Star is Born. He's like the guitar player.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Oh I see, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, it is interesting. Bradley Cooper did have a new
persona and it's kind of based on Lucas Nelson.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Interesting. There's something fascinating to me about because this. Obviously
he made more movies after this one. This was the
one where he was like, I got a lot to prove. Yes,
I am taking this beloved, storied, historical IP and I'm
gonna do my own weird, you know Nashville guy thing

(38:54):
with it. Right. Yes, it was a juggernaut. People loved it,
like it was memified. I mean, people were, you know,
imitating his excit, you know, which was essentially Sam Elliott's accent,
and you know, I mean it left people shook. I remember, So,
I mean, I hate to say this about y'all, but

(39:16):
like so many straight guys that I'm friends with were
like shook by that movie. Yeah, they were like, man,
what a movie. Like they had never seen a movie
that affected their kind as much as this film. Right,
My people, my people like welcome to our world. What
the fuck? They're like, oh my god, this, like you know,

(39:37):
dramatic story is hitting me in the fucking fields. And
I'm like, that's what we do here, by the way,
as you know, we cry about every movie we watch.
But then he went on to make Maestro, which did
you see you saw my show? Right?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I loved my Strow. It was like one of my
favorite movies of last year. Like, I feel like A
Star Is Born is such a big swing. It's such
a big risk because like it could have been such
a flop because it's like it's so sincere, it's so
emotional and it really goes for it. And Maestro is

(40:17):
much the same, but even more so, I feel like
he felt empowered by A Starsborn to make a nuttier movie.
Someone pointed out that like every movie he's been in
and has directed, he plays a genius essentially, and there's
like a Martyred genius and that's sort of funny. To

(40:40):
think about. I keep thinking back to this interview with
Leonard Bernstein's children that Bradley Cooper was in that interview.
Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you seen this?
I think so, yeah, And the interviewer asks the children,
what do you miss most about him? Of course, Leonard
Bernstein died in like nineteen ninety one. Bradley Cooper doesn't

(41:00):
know Leonard Evernstein. But Bradley Cooper answered the question and
he's like, oh my god, I just I miss him
so much. I just and he like started crying, and
I was like, this is so delulu crazy like that
he felt comfortable answering that question that it made me like,
maestro more. I mean, it's just such a like a

(41:23):
vanity project, and it's just it's so outrageously theatrical and
they're doing so there's so much like accent and makeup
work going on. I mean, it is so crazy. Bradley
Cooper's movies are like invigorating and alive in a way
and like passionate, and it just sucks me in because

(41:46):
they aren't like other movies coming out now, where so
many movies that are like highbrow art house movies are
so quiet and like muted, and the performances are very muted, Yes,
but Bradley Cooper's they are loud, taking big swings, and
so I just I just it, just I just drink

(42:09):
it all in. I just I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I guess yeah, I I'm glad you think this because
I want to say that I have this very nuanced
opinion of Bradley Cooper as a famous person, right, yes,
and that I think it is informed by my love,
my love and my passion and my writing about fucking
Colt movies. I mean, basically, I'm a Colt movie person

(42:33):
and I'm like, oh, so here's this like megalomaniac director type. Yes,
Like he's basically like extremely well funded ed Wood meets
Tommy Wiseau, you know what I mean. Like that that's
not a disparaging comment, by the way, Like I fucking
love ed Wood, but it's like in that way that's
like making ridiculous, big swing artistic statements. I mean, maybe

(42:56):
not Edwood. Maybe we call him like Bob Foster.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Sure, Bob Foster is a good comp I think, Yes, Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I appreciate there being at least one or two people
at any given moment in Hollywood being that maniac Like
I appreciate the mania, the like ridiculousness, the sort of
you know, over the top, like you know, putting himself
in his own movies, like giving himself the duty of

(43:23):
making old classic things relevant. You know. Yeah, maybe you
know have feeling like you the onus is on you
to like extend the story of a stars Bord or
whatever the fuck right and uh pulling in like all
of your bullshit in the world, you know, like all
of your weird isms and costumes and noses and ship

(43:45):
you know who left snoopy in the vestibule? Why, Like,
damn it, I was.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I'm mad that you said that, because I was I
was thinking about doing that for Halloween this year, holding
a snoopy doll snoopy in the vestibule. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Like that to me is like, hey, that is my
actual letterbox review for my stroke. By the way, is
left Snoopy the vestibule. That's all you need, isn't that
one fucking sentence. Also is the essence of why I
think he's so funny and I like him ultimately is

(44:26):
because he's just like that, like throwing that into his
fucking three hour movie. About you know, somebody that he
feels like he needs to like cry about in front
of his ChIL You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Oh my god, Yes, so I am a fan. Yes,
I look forward to whatever his next project is. I
hope Maestro didn't throw him off course at all. Do
you like the music in A Star is Born?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
I don't like the bop that they told us was
the bop. The shallow is a shallow, shallow shallow.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
You don't like shallow? Oh, Millie, don't really hit for me.
I feel like that's man. I'm just I'm an easy mark.
I just I was like, I just thought I was
I thought that was a great song, and I when
she first sings it in the movie, I was like
I was taken away. I don't know it worked for me.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
God, the whole thing is just such a bummer.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, it is like the whole.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Movie is a real fucking bummer by design. It's been
that way for decades because the thirty seven version is
a fucking bummer as well.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
To me.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I don't know. When I rewatched it again, I was like,
whoever programmed this at Christmas is a g because this
is like a fucking, straight up bummer of the highest order.
I feel like, shit, thank you. And then yeah, it
just sort of made me like re like just have
to remember kind of this, you know, the reality that

(46:00):
we were living in when this movie came out, and
how like you know Riley Cooper's media lady Gaga had
had she acted before, like this was her big like god,
her big thing.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
I mean I think she had like hosted snl oh. Yeah,
and like I think she was in the Ryan Murphy
universe doing god knows what goes on there. She is
so charming in this Yeah, there's a shot when he
when she's on the side of the stage and he's
like trying to pull her on to sing Shallow for
the first time, and she's like hi, and like she's

(46:33):
like acting like such a like kind of like weirdo,
Like she's like totally overwhelmed, but it's like it's so
disarming and charming, and I don't know, I really I
thought she was so good in this movie.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah. I was absolutely delighted that Andrew Dice Clay played
her dad.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Incredible, right, absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
He was great at it and considering like how obnoxious
he was, like it is heyday. The fact that he
just was like some like dad in a movie really
like made be kind of happy. Yeah, it's like always
like you know, I don't know, he's back and he's
like Lady Gaga's dad who like drives a limo or whatever.
I don't even know what he does. But yeah, she
was really great at it. And I you know again

(47:13):
like that. That's the thing about a Starsborn. It attempts
to take that kind of like famous diva of the era,
uh huh and put her in that role. Right, So
it's like, you know, we got Judy Garland, We've got
Barber Streisan, I mean the first one.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I wasn't alive in the thirties, So I don't know
if Janet Gaynor was the Lady Gaga of the thirties
or whatever. I don't believe so, but that's the thing
is that like it kind of couldn't have been many
other people but Lady Gaga to be this role.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Were you ever influenced to drink an alcoholic drink based
on seeing it in a movie?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yes, I drank a white Russian after I saw Big Lebowski.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I did that too.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Thought it was kind of nasty, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
I like a white Russian, but they're an acquired taste.
I saw the movie north By Northwest with Carrie Grant
and he orders a Gibson, which is a Martini with
pearl onions instead of olives. Oh and that's my favorite drink.
Really Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Do you eat the pearl onion like Cass?

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I don't always because that is a potent punch, but
it is. I like the brine of the pickled onion
in my martini.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I love Martini olives.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
They're great.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Oh man, I'm like, yo, put like twelve of them
shits on a stick, and I'm just.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Gonna dunk, dunk dunk. Yeah, okay, I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Gonna dunk the olive in the Martini drink and just
eat them. They're so delicious.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
So do you like a dirty Martini? A dirty Martini
is where they actually pour olive brine into the martini.
Should try it out sometime.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I like the eating component though, that's the one I
like about Martini's.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You know what's funny, Millie? This is so random. You
and I have only seen each other in person for once,
and it was like for thirty seconds. Isn't that interesting?
Was it? At the Egyptian Theater or down that way.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
It was, since you have a terrible memory involving anything
on with me, it was at the Chinese Multiplex in Hollywood, okay,
and you were about to see Was that a movie
with Rod Steiger?

Speaker 1 (49:11):
No, it was, uh, it was Paul Newman, The Hustler.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
That's right. I got you and your wife Tricia into
the movie. Yes, and that was the first time I'd
ever met you, even though you had been recording the
podcast for a while before that, right.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
No, I think it was pretty early on. I think
it was. Maybe I've been doing it for like two months.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh, I see.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
We will be reunited at some point in person, hopefully
drinking martinezn't eating olives.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Absolutely Alrighty. That was our discussion of a Star is
Born and getting hammered in film. So now it's time

(49:59):
for our guest segment, which we're calling my area of expertise.
So this is where we're gonna bring on a guest,
usually somebody funny and cool, I hope, always cool.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Funny I don't know necessarily, but very cool, always cool.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah. Well, we're setting a high bar with the funny
because Sheila was an incredible comedian but you know, normally
what would happen is we're gonna bring on somebody. They're
gonna discuss this like hyper specific area that they are
expert in when it comes to movies. Right, And since
we spoke about, you know, the modern iteration of a

(50:38):
Star is Born, which is a movie about music, I'll
be we're gonna bring on a guest to talk about,
you know, this area of their expertise. That's also sort
of another example of like a modern cinematic fantasia, the
Magic my franchise. I think, you know, our first guest

(51:00):
is a wonderful human being, and I am not at
all lying about that in any way, shape or form.
I've known this woman for so so long. She originally
is an Atlantic comedian who has been in New York
for decades at this point, I would say, and very funny.
She does stand up all over the country, all over

(51:23):
the world, to be honest, and also has this incredible
podcast called The War Report that she does with a
fellow comic named Gastor Almonte. They're very funny together, and
she's just a wonderful human being and I want to
bring her on the pods. So ladies and gentlemen. Please
welcome shealeiwa sharp yay.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Hello, Hi everyone, welcome, welcome. Wait, how do you How
did you guys first meet? Oh?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
The dirty, dirty streets of Atlanta, casey.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Oh my god, where there are just young people roaming
just looking for their next you know, brit Pop Fix
or just any dive bar that needed people in horde
rim glasses to hang out around the edges.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I will say this though, not to say that we
were not good friends before this, but I feel like
the event that really crystallized our friendship in a deep,
meaningful way is that Playboy article slash interview with John
Mayer that came out many years ago.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yes, absolutely, Like I think.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
The biggest topics in that moment were the fact that
Jessica Simpson had been called sexual napalm. Remember I know
we talked about that, and that he called his penis racist.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Yeah, which is.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I think was the biggest.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
That was, like, I issue number one. I remember this now,
I was. I didn't realize it was from that article,
but that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
I mean when you say, like share, I'd love to
date women that aren't white, but my being this is racist. Yeah,
you're gonna have people who are not white sit down
and go what yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
And so that's that's what we had to do for hours.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Okay, Millie, why don't we transition a little bit into
why we wanted to bring Chileuah on the show today.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
We like to bring people on and talk about, you know,
an area of their film expertise, right, Like, have you
gone really hard on like a specific director or a
specific genre. Are you like very well versed in you know,
a certain type of film or like a franchise of
some kind. And so when I asked you this question
and you replied, yes, I do have an expertise, and

(53:45):
then you told me what the expertise was, I was thrilled.
Let's just say that. Oh yeah, And I think that
because Casey and I both share this passion as well.
Oh good, So I feel like we're gonna have an
incredible debates, Slash. I think there's gonna be a debate
because I feel like over the course, I mean, let's

(54:06):
just say it, Chi, what is your area of expertise
that you like to talk about today?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
My area of expertise I'd like to discuss today is
the Magic Mike Universe, the trilogy, the trilogy.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yes, okay, I would like to first and foremost, I
would like to establish a timeline, if you'll bear with me. Okay,
let's establish a timeline of the moment you figured out
who Channing Tatum was. Did it start with the Step
Up films or did you know him prior to that? Like?
How did how did you enter the universe via Channing Tatum?

Speaker 4 (54:45):
It was the Step Up movie, the first one. I
didn't see it in the theater, and I did end
up renting it and watching it, and I remember at
some point standing up and yelling why didn't I see
the in the theater because it's so amazing. But that
definitely was my entry point into Channing Tatum, and I

(55:09):
viewed him in a particular way, which definitely evolved as
I got.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
To know him more.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Air quotes around No, but yes, he came in and
he really stole my heart very quickly, because he is
what I like to call one of our chin strap
beard warriors, And that is what I call any young
Caucasian man who has an affinity for Black music, for

(55:40):
R and B, especially for hip hopes, for all aspects
of hip hop, the graffiti, all of the graffiti, the breakdancing.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
It's the break dancing is important.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
It is my kryptonite. I have gone on record.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
I truly am stone cold.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
I'm the deuce out here. But if you are a
young white man with a respectable fade, or a shaved
head and or a chin strap beard, I don't know,
there's gonna be problems. I'm a weekend. I'm a little weak.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
And what was it when you saw it? What was
your reaction to it? Was it nervous and excitement or like,
were you surprised by your reaction to it? Were you
comforted by the dancing?

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I fully enjoyed it, Millie. We saw it together.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Full disclosure, full disclosure.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
It was there.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
We saw it together.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
We ran, we ran, But I enjoyed magic, Mike. But
it also was a little dark. Yes, yes it was.
And I remember walking out. I was like, I mean, yeah,
they danced, but oh my god.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
What they could have danced more?

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Well. This is kind of the like trajectory that I
think is really interesting about this franchise because it's like, Okay,
the first movie was like kind of a dark drama
ye in certain parts, and it was really mostly about
the Alex Pettifer character who was kind of like like
because Channing Tatum like magical Michael if you will, well, yes,

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he was already in the world. And then you as
a viewer were with the Adam character, the Alex Peddifer character,
who was like, I'm new to this. I need some
extra cash. I guess I'm gonna like start, you know,
down this road of exotic dancing and drugs and women
and all this stuff. And that was kind of more
about his descent into the world. And so there was

(57:33):
a serious moment, you know, or two, but it was
like it was really his story. And then when the
second one came out right yes, they basically were like, well,
the public has spoken, we have heard the request. Nothing
no more serious. We don't care about this. Who the
fuck cares about Adam. We might as well kill it.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Off, right.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
We need to get rid of the darkness, we need
to get rid of ploty, we need to get rid
of you know, all the extra stuff, and really concentrate.
It's a concentrated film into what is the essence? And
I think Magic Mike XXL is the one that is
now remembered mostly.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I think so. I think what they
did is. They took the montage in the first one
of First they took out all the soderbergness for XXL.
They took the montage of Matthew McConaughey teaching the new
kid how to move like a rattlesnake in the marr
and then you stick it. They took that and then

(58:35):
they took it out of the Golden Hour lighting.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Did some color.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Brighten this up? Let's check the color of this bitch.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
And then they and then they're like, let's make a
whole movie of that energy.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Put them in an ice cream truck and let them
travel around the South.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
America loves a road movie.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
America loves it.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
They really. They remove all steaks too. I mean there's
like no steaks in the second one. Really. I mean,
in some ways, Magic Mike XXL feels more like kind
of like an art house experimental film because you're like, where.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Are you going?

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Where are they going? It's not a competition, They're not
going it's like a showcase. They don't win anything, so
there's no like prize money that they need to get something.
They're just kind of like hanging out, going place to place,
you know, dropping in on all these people and thrusting
on them, and it's just like it's more of an
interesting kind of experiment in what a film can be

(59:38):
than the first one, which is more of like a
traditional like arc you know.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Yeah, yeah, the second one is definitely it's a magic, magic,
magic magic bike.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
It's a magic magic magic mic.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Well.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
What I think is also really fascinating about the second one, too,
is that they introduced this Jada Pinkett Smith speak on it,
mansion of Exotic Dancing Men, like whatever this private club was,
and that in and of itself has a lore that

(01:00:12):
needs its own movie totally, Like that house needs to
have its own franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
It has has its own like Ballerina john Wick type
movie exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Yeah, And I may be getting ahead of us, but
this is why I was so angry with the Last Dance.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yes, Magic Mike's Last Dance, the third one, we'll get there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Yeah, But because of what they did in the second movie, Like,
there are a couple of stories that definitely could have
been just like offshoots from this main thing that would
have been fine, you know, maybe not theatrical release, I
don't know, but you could have thrown that either on
straight to DVD or a streamer, wherever it would have
fallen in the timeline of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Excellent to be movie, an excellent TOOV movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
It'd be like an Amazon freew original, yes, free original
of like what's his name, big big Dick, big Dick Rich.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Like he finally finding his glass slipper and now moving
in like probably taking up with that woman.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
What did that look like?

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Totally Also to find out the personalities of these dancers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
They were like a boy band. It was like, yeah,
boy band, Like it was like he had the bomber character,
was kind of this like Ed Kowalchiky like kombucha Eastern
religion guy. And you're like, why did that happen? And
then you know you've got like the big Dick Richie story.
I mean even like the fucking Kevin Nash had a

(01:01:44):
moment's pantst right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
And then it was a desert storm, like all kinds
of all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Then it's like what And it's not like I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Need you to give me a movie for each one
of these guys, like a like a children's book.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Or I don't need I don't need to know all.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Of that, but there were a couple of things that
happened to them that it's like, how did you end
up here?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
You know, you definitely could be We could do a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Four rooms sure, yeah, different directors, just take you know
what director for each one, like an anthology.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Yeah, I feel like we could do that for them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
At the very.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Least, that would have been something, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Well bringing up the characters and like how you get
to know them in the second one, which is like
what makes that second one so great? Then they take
that away immediately in the third one. My gosh, I
think they're on a zoom call or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
You was so offended by that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I was like, I am walking out of this theater.
And I saw the third one in London.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I was actually in England the weekend that it came out,
and I was like, I feel like I'm in the story,
you know whatever? Why in London? Don't know why? And
then when that happened, I was like, you're meeting to
tell me that the boys the gang are gonna be
relegated to a fucking zoom. That was like all stuttering
and like you know, bad wi Fi. I was like,

(01:03:08):
this is an insult, an insult to the second.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
One, Yeah, I was so mad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Well, I thought that they were like setting it up.
It's like, Oh, don't worry, they're gonna have to fix
some things with the show, and they're going to bring
the boys back to help fix the show. And that
did not happen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
No, we didn't even get a good like.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Boys in that they found. That's really what got me.
I was like, Okay, it really was bad. It was
it was Godfather three, y'all. It was god The whole
thing gave me my personally. I was like, oh, this
is my personal Godfather. Because I love the first one.
I really love the second one. The second one had

(01:03:48):
two stories going on, really and then the third one
is questionable at best, but I do not like it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Yeah. Well the third one made me sad too, because
you know, in Magic Mike ex Excel, it seems like
he's gotten the furniture business off the ground, he's making
his own money, he's doing well. Yeah, the third one
starts with him working some shitty catering job at Selma
Jayak's house. I'm like, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
What happens?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I don't know. It's just sort of like starts as
an off as a bummer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
It does. It really does.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
And I mean after the first performance that he gives
for he did a few things. I was just like, physically,
I'm like, oh wow, okay, you still got it, Mike.
I don't like, you don't want to train like Magic
Mike the next generation or like a like you know,
which I think.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Is already like a reality show or something.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
But sure there was space for him to pass down
his chin strap like learnings teachings to London where I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
I'm sure the chin strap dude situation there is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
They concentrated on the wrong thing because they paid for
Salmahayak to be there. That's why do you feel like
this franchise could either be rebooted it's some future points
maybe even completely different people you know how they do now,
or there will be like a fourth movie way into

(01:05:11):
the future that could be done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Maybe it is like a Netflix thing or something like.
Do you feel like that's at all possible any future
with this franchise at all?

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
I don't think the reviews were great on three, and
that may have stuck in Channing Katom's Krang maybe a
little bit, because that is I feel like what it
would take for a fourth one to be made. It's
there's room you can you can save it if you
have a movie with a little life in it. I honestly,
I really love the idea of like doing the Jada story,

(01:05:43):
but that might be too far gone now. Yeah, but
I think that they could do some sort of a reboot, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
What if they got like Nicholas Galazine to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Be Oh, Nicholas Gallatin, that's my new favorite guy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
I love him so much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
What if he was Magic Mike, the son Magic Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
I called it the Son of Magic Mike. That would
be enough. Son of Magic Mike is like so funny. Yeah,
I think that's what they would have to do. They'd
have to do it like they did the Step Up,
like where Channing just comes through for one scene and
he's literally glowing like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Obi wan kenobi or some shit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
And he just kind of comes through and it's just
like I give you the power or something something glittery throat,
and now he's able to his son or his nephew
or some whatever is now able to I think that's
what it would take.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah, Yeah, I have a pitch just based on everything
you just said. Shlua, son of son of Magic Mike. Okay,
Nicholas Gallop, why do you say Allen Allen's scene okay?
And he has a bad relationship with his father, uh
huh okay, And he goes up and do his attic
and he finds all the old pictures and videos of

(01:07:01):
his dad stripping, and then he starts stripping, and then
Magic Mike is like, you don't want to go down
that road, like it'll ruin, it'll.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Kill you it, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
In the end the finale, Channing comes out to save
his son somehow by stripping.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I'm here, I'm kind of here for it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I think that would work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
The other angels, the other Angels.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Okay, Like like the end of Star Wars, you see
the ghosts of All We Want and Darthyding there see
Big Big and he's like translucent, you know, like smiling
down yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Because they're dead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I would love nothing more than to see Nicholas Gallatin
in an attic lifting out of a dusty box a
penis pump, Yes, just blowing the dust off a penis
pump and just like what is this and then like
packing it all up, leaving the house you know, give

(01:08:03):
us a little bit of love is a battlefield Pat
Benatar video vibe. Like all of this a little bit
of very eighties like us against the System vibe. Yes,
anything that ends with somebody with their fist up at
the end in a freeze frame, I think we got it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Yeah, No, I think that's it. Yeah, I think that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Oh, it's a way in, it's away in, and it's
so wild and then you just want to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Yes, Oh man, lord.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I'm gonna cash up my bir and fun. If you
guys co write the screenplay, I will fund whatever. I
will fund the production.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
That's great. Yeah, I'm here for it. I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Well slei, well listen, we really really appreciate you coming
on the pod to give your takes, uh, your expertise
on the Magic Mic franchise. If people want to find
you online or do you have any show was coming up?
What's all that info?

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Oh sure, I am tragically and chronically online at still
in all of the things. My handle on all of
them is at silky jumbo all one word traditional spelling
except for TikTok, where the O at the end is
a zero, but if you actually just put the O in,
you'll find the other account that I forgot the password too.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
You'll find me. Look, I'm there, I'm there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I swear my website is Chilewassharp dot tumblr dot com
because I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Why would I leave Tumblr.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I'm on Instagram a lot. I'm on Twitter, the
only dead name I use. I'm on Twitter all the time.
That's usually where you can find where I'm going to
be if you are in the New York City area.
UCB has a theater on East fourteenth Street, and on
Monday nights, there's a free stand up comedy show called

(01:09:59):
Whiplash and I I am the host of that. That's
a very storied stand up show that has is back
from the risen from the Ashes along with UCB again
and uh and so I'm hosting that, So you can
find me there just stumbling through jokes and pointing at
people in audiences and laughing at them and uh, yeah,

(01:10:21):
that's about it. I teach at the Brooklyn Comedy Collective online.
If you look up Brooklyncomedy dot com that's them. Yeah,
And then otherwise I'm just kind of haunting the streets
a lot I can't easily be found.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Great yeah no. And then War Report, I gotta say,
such a great podcast. You and Castro are absolutely hilarious.
It's more like a courn Affairs like, you know, news
of the day kind of podcast. It comes like on
what every week you guys do bonus.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Every yeah, every Thursday for sure, and occasionally on Mondays.
That's our bonus episode that we still seem to have done.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Uh, and people expect and I'm like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Don't know if we understand what bonus means all of us,
but uh yeah, it's me and gast Romonte, who's a
very funny comedian and he's a very Brooklyn, a Brooklyn
boy and uh just very New York and I have
to break him up. That break him up that because
he's so Brooklyn and I just gotta it's enough, it's

(01:11:21):
too much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
So that's that's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
What we're doing while talking about news stories.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Well, thanks again, Shilewah, you're the best. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
This is great, my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
I just would be sitting in my living room talking
about these movies anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
There you go. Oh my goodness, love man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I've known her for so long. We have been bros
for so long that it's kind of like, I don't know,
it's effervescent. Yes, when I talked to her, and I'm
just glad now you know each other.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
That was a hard conversation to even stop talking about
Magic Mike because I feel like it really there was
so much more in the chamber there. We really, I
mean we could have. Yeah, it was really hard to
pull back on that. I mean, we might need to
do follow up episodes, honestly, yo, Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
It made me want to change the theme of the podcast.
Just do we want about the Magic Mic franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
So there you go. Frankly the format of the podcast
to all of our episodes being about the Magic Mic
extended universe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
So that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Oh god, Okay, moving on, Let's get into our final
segment of the show, Employee Picks. This is where we
do a film recommendation based on kind of what we
talked about in this episode. Did I ever tell you
about the chicks picks at Mister Movies at my Low
video store? No?

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I love Employee Picks, so tell me tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
So there was like, you know, the staff picks at
my local video store, Mister Movies in Minneapolis, and it
was all dudes who worked there, and they were nice men,
but my mom was like bothered by this. My mother,
and so she went in and she was like, you know,
you don't have any women on the staff picks. It's

(01:13:27):
like five guys recommending action movies. Love that, And the
manager was like, oh my gosh, you're right. To his credit,
he was like, oh my gosh, you're right. We need
to do something about this. And my mom goes, well,
I have an idea. How would we do a box
and women can submit their picks to this box and
you can have a chicks Picks row.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
He's like, oh that's great. Yeah, maybe we'll get started
on that. And then my mom is like, well, I
already made a box for you. So here's your box
and you can put it up on the counter. So
then like the next week, there was a little you know,
on one of the shelves it said chicks Picks with
movies recommended by women.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
First of all, you're fired. Your mom is hired to
close this podcast me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
My mom's a pioneer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I think it explains a lot about you to be honest,
that is wonderful. She's like a fucking to suffragette or something.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Oh my god. Anyways, yeah, that's kind of my you know,
part of my film history. You know, as a child.
That was probably like twelve when my mom did that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Wow, that's like And honestly, were you ever able to
create an employee pick at all in any of your jobs?
Because I take that shit real seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
No, I don't think. I don't think I've had an
opportunity to do something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Oh my god. You should just get a job where
you could do it. It is so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
So quit this podcast and do something else and have
my mom co hosts the podcast with you and said, okay,
got it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Of course, allo Asten. I think we're ironing out the
rest of your life here. Sure. But I you know,
I worked in many record stores. I worked at Tower Records.
That was like such a huge responsibility because that was
in a very prominent location in the store. I mean
there's Tower Records, of course, And I was like, your mom,
I was like, this is such a moment for me

(01:15:15):
as one of the only women that work in a store,
a music store. I was like, I'm doing research. I'm
gonna do things unexpected. I'm not doing it like the
other guys do it. So, needless to say, this is
the employee picks is such a part of video store culture,
so we wanted to kind of replicate something like that
because we just thought it would be really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Totally. So imagine this on a shelf in a digital
video store somewhere. Yeah, so, Milli, why did you give
your your pick first?

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
So my employee pick for this week, because we are
talking about dry January and drinking and films, is actually
about alcoholism. It's kind of a bummer, not gonna lie.
But it's a film from nineteen fifty two and it's
called come Back Little Sheba, directed by the great Daniel Mann.

(01:16:04):
This is a movie that stars Burt Lancaster and Shirley Booth,
who is one of my favorite actresses in classic Hollywood.
If you like Shirley Booth, email us at Deer Movies
at exactly Rightmedia dot com. We are gonna be friends
if you like Shirley Booth. But it's a movie about
this married couple. You know, obviously Burt Lancaster Shirley Booth

(01:16:26):
married couple and Burt Lancaster is an alcoholic and he's
in recovery, and it was one of the first or
maybe the first time that alcoholics anonymous AA was ever
mentioned in a film, so it kind of has a
little bit of a little bit of historical relevance because
of that. But it's a heartbreaker, man, and I love

(01:16:47):
a fucking fifties weepie. I love these types of films.
There's no like Frederick marsh being a charming, joyous drunk.
This is straight up like, I hate my life because
I can't have a drink and I don't know if
I want to be married anymore, and now I gotta
watch my husband feel this way. And it's just a

(01:17:07):
it's a bummer of a film, but it is a
great film, and I feel like it's not talked about enough.
So there's that. That's my wreck.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Fabulous, Yeah, fabulous. I haven't seen it. I got it.
I must check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
My recommendation since we're talking about drinking, is a movie
from twenty twenty. It's a Danish film, so you will
be reading subtitles, y'all. It's called Another Round. It's by
the filmmaker Thomas Vinterberg. It stars the very Hot Mad's Michelson,
and it is about these four high school teachers who

(01:17:43):
kind of all sort of have depressing lives. They're friends
and they read about this medical guy who says that
you actually operate better if you're a tiny bit drunk,
Like your optimal pH kind of level is if you
are a little bit drunk. So they decide to test
this out, and like are just kind of drunk all

(01:18:06):
the time. And at first it's like fun, Yeah, they
feel great all the time, and then it sort of
devolves as some of these guys shouldn't be drinking all
the time. It's an interesting kind of exploration of alcohol
because I think it has a more complex conversation because
it's not saying like drinking is bad. It's more like

(01:18:27):
drinking can be bad. If your life is bad and
you are drinking a lot, that is bad. But alcohol
in it of itself isn't bad, but it can be.
And so I don't know, it's kind of an interesting
thing because I just feel like sometimes movies exploration of
drinking is so cut and dry. If you see someone
drinking hard alcohol in a movie, you're like, oh ooh,

(01:18:48):
something bad. Is gonna happen that guy's tortured, you know.
So I think it's a really interesting movie by a
really interesting filmmaker. It won Best International Film at the Oscars.
Thomas Benderberg is a very interesting filmmaker. He comes from
Denmark and he was a part of the Dogma ninety
five movement, which he started with another Danish filmmaker named

(01:19:09):
Lars von Trier. And that was like in the nineties,
and they had all these rules for making films. It
was like had to be shot on like a video
camera with no tripod, no violence. They had all these rules.
They were kind of like really art housey movies, and
there are some really good ones, like one of his films,
The Celebration is really good even if it is shot

(01:19:31):
on a video camera. But he kind of was like, ah,
I don't want to do that anymore, and he stopped
making moves. He stopped being like such a pretentious prick.
But Another Round is fabulous. Leonardo DiCaprio was supposed to
remake it, but I don't know if that's still happening,
but I'm checking it out. So anyways, Another Round. You

(01:19:51):
can watch that on Prime. It's on if you're a
prime video. I think it's You can stream it on
there Peacock Canopy, which is a live app you can
watch movies for free on there, so it's in a
lot of places, but check it out. It's a great movie.
Another round from twenty twenty sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I love it, Millie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Oh my god. We recorded our entire first episode and
we didn't kill each other by the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
No, I just fired you and hired your mother.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Yeah. I was fired a few times replaced by my mom,
which was humiliating, but we made it to the end.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
We did, we did. I'm excited this is This is
gonna be so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
We hope you enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Yeah, I mean, we have so many ideas about what
we want to do for this show. This is going
to be changing all the time. You know, new segments
are coming in. It's going to be a very vibrant show.
We're very excited about it. We have so many ideas
for it. But one of the ideas I have in
the future is we want to give out film advice
at the end of our shows. So please right in

(01:20:53):
your questions for us. You know, if you're in need
of specific movie recommendations for specific situations like you're on
a date or something and you need a movie to watch,
or if you need help navigating a certain director's filmography,
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We're gonna have film gripes. That's gonna be a big

(01:21:13):
part of the show moving forward, huge part. Please write
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We want to help you. We want to help people.
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Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, we love hearing your voices. Like, the accents are fantastic.
That's like my favorite part.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Well play it on the show. Yeah, love hearing these accents.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Also, we have social media. We are at Dear Movies.
I love you on Instagram and Facebook. Just a little fyi,
Casey and I are going to be doing a couple
Instagram lives. Once in a while, we're gonna be posting
some video. So Instagram is gonna be hot people.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
It's gonna have its own vibe to It's almost like
a second show's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
That's right on Instagram, that's right. And because Casey's a filmmaker,
it's gonna be in four K digital restorations.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yeah, lots of tricky camera moves, dolly shots, Dutch angles,
all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
We built the rig from the first Evil Dead movie.
We're gonna be through the woods with it, so it's
gonna be exciting. But just wanted us to shout that
out as a way to like, you know, engage with
the pod a little bit more. And also, if you
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you haven't followed us already, our letterbox handles are at

(01:22:52):
Casey Lee O'Brien and at m DE Jericho, and that's
where we are. That's where we're hanging out putting down movies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
That's right. Well, Millie, thank you for a wonderful first episode.
Hopefully many more to come after this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Oh I agree. I had such a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
So much fun, so much fun. All right, Well bye everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
See you next time. This has been an exactly right production,
hosted by me Milli to Cherico and produced by my
co host Casey O'Brien.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfocal. Our associate producer
is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and
our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Our incredible theme music is by the best band in
the entire world, The Softies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark,
Daniel Kramer and Milli to Jericho, we love you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Goodbye, bec

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