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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Like, if you look at Africa today, I mean you
look at all of this, right, you look at Guinei
and whatever you see here, you go to Senegal, you
go to Courtney Vonder, you're gonna say the same. So
this is kind of like America back in the mid
eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, right, So back then the
problem with the so it's like they're looking at America
as the wild West, whereas like investment is really risky.
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So but the early investors like the Conoguies, the Rocker
Colors and all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The ones that took the risk early on.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Today they didn't want to control the financial industry in
the state, which means they control the financial industry globally, right,
And so Africa is at that point today. So you
have and you have a lot of investors actually interested
in Africa, but there's still that what if, right, like
the risk and like and mostly it is like connected
to political problems because you look at it where like
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ow politically most of the countries are not stable. Like
you look at Guinea for example, Guinea hold the lowest
depths in Africa. But a lot of the investors they
look at that, which is amazing. But the problem is
politically Guinea has been challenged for the past twenty years,
right since we lost Lanstan La Conte. You had militaries,
militaries and right now we have the military. They want
to do good things, but it's like you know, from
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like an American or like a European or Japanese. You
know me as a as an African who's an American,
I can understand it. You know, I can get my
money in America, bring it to Africa. I have my
family here, right, It's like I'm not risking much. But
let's say for somebody like you, you don't have anyone
in here, right.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like your risk is too high.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
If you look at it from a financial perspective, these
are all huge opportunities.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
These are like a real set opportunities.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
But it's like the customer is, if you put some money,
what guarantees do you have?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
You know you're not going to lose your money.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
You see, like a building like that, that building costs
around five million dollars, but actually the Green World Yeah, yeah,
that building right there, it cuts around five million dollars.
They already made a reason on their investment because you
know how much they can sell an apartment. They can
sell apartment for like a million dollars easy. It's it's insane. Yeah,
it's crazy. Like a rent like for a building like
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that can go easily five thousand dollars a monthey. Yeah,
so because most of the people that live in it
is dasporous, like me or people who work in the
mining sector, you know, like big enterprises they have money
they uh, they take.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Rent for their executives, right or ministers.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Because you have the President Palace right there, you have
all the minister of Economy and Finance are rare, so
most of the time they don't want to go home,
so they rather take apartments in downtown. So the rent
is like crazy, yeah exactly, they can get back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
But who's the people that actually are taking a risk
right now right now? Chinese? Number one. The Chinese.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
See those buildings are owned by Turkis, yeah, both of them.
So the Chinese, the turkis a little bit of Americans
Europeans less because now the Americans are more like you know,
like from a geopolitics, it's like the Americans are kicking
out the Europeans when we talk about Europeans like the
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French in a way. Right, So you have you have
some Americans that are coming to invest a little bit,
but number one is the Chinese. And then also you
got the Russians. So which is one of the many reasons,
Like the Americans like somebody like us who's like an
Africa like Indian in my case, at the same time,
an American like I'm close with the American ambassador, like
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not just here, but a couple of countries.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
They try to leverage people like us.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
The company small Americans that come because they losing the
game to the Chinese and to the Russians. It's like
they don't want that. Like most of the roads here
are done by the by the Chinese. Like you know,
we talk about Humandu, right, the biggest project in Guinea
today fifty percent ownership.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's owned by Sinfer, which is a Chinese company.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Right, So the Chinese are the biggest risk takers, and
then the Saudist the Emiratis. So first the Chinese, second
the Arabs taught the Russians, and then you have the Americans.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's a it's a common thing as we go to
country the country.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, common same thing.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
So most people know mining there in Guinea. Yeah. What
are some of the other areas those apart.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
From yeah, uh definitely real estate, second agriculture. We'll be
working on a project that uh division. We're calling it,
uh the tenne of Vision.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It is the feed to West Africa because.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Guinea today, Guinea is an important around one point two
billion dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
What of sugar? It's insane and it's important around one
point one billion dollars what of rights?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Right, So it's ridiculous So we've been in this discussion
with the Brazilians because everybody knows today Brazil they become
the number one agriculture country because Brazil became Brazil because
of agriculture. You know, they're taking up even the state
when it's come to Cardo farming.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
So we've been discussing with the Brazilians a Bruston partners,
you're a couple of weeks ago. So we're trying to
do how to bring that Brazilian technology into agriculture to
develop Guinea because Guinea holds forty percent of West Africa's
arable land, so that means Guinea can feed West Africa basically,
but nobody knows that because everybody knows about When you
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talk about Guinea, they talk about box side, they talk
about iron or the like, they talk about the mind
because that's what everybody knows about Guinea is that wealthy
country that have all types of minerals. Right because today
guineas exporting around nine billion dollars just gold.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
To Dubai alone.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Right, So the economy of Guinea is divided between box
side and gold. The government and entrepreneurs like us, we
want to change that. We want to change the narrative
a little bit. But so in hey, it's not just
about mind. There's a huge opportunities out there that a
lot of people can make a lot of money, Like
you know, well potential investors can make a huge return
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on the investment apart from the mining set.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
So China invested heavy, all the Arab countries invested heavy.
Like why is it important for black Americans and the
diaspora to invest?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I mean, for me, it's pretty Uh, it's a it's
a it's a null braining because when you talk about
I mean for me, and you know, when you talk
about Black America or like like every black person they
originate from here, right, So why should we let the
Chinese or you know, the Arabs or all the people
come back to Africa and only like we know, Africa
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made China what China is today. Africa made America with
Americans today because you look like without the technologists coming
out of the continent, we wouldn't have we don't have
the technology we have today, you know, and all of
that is coming from the continent, right and we've seen
the changes. So why not attract you know, black Americans
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to come back and take that advantage rather than go
to the white Man, to the Chinese, to the Arab right.
So it's like, you know, the message, my message I
will put out to my black American friends is to
like look at Africa as the same way you know
the few white Europeans looked at America back in the
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eighteen hundreds. Right, So the opportunity is you can't even
put a number. You can't you can't put a number
on it. Right, So everybody knows without Africa from climate change,
everything by twenty fifty, like the wall is not going
to be the same because right now it's even like
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the global powers they're actually saying if they don't because
they've taken everything from Africa, and now we get to
a point where like if they don't even help Africa
develop between now and twenty fifty, the wall is going
to be screwed over because Africa have so much poverty
and it's literally holding the global economy down, okay, and
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so and it's like you have the poverty, but at
the same time they need everything from Africa, Like Africa
hold when you talk about again agriculture, Africa holds fifty
percent of aurrible land, sixty percent of the water reserves
right because you know a lot of countries are running
out of water, but Africa have you have lakes everywhere,
so everything is back.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like so if we don't fix the balance, the global
economy is going to collapse.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like we cannot just keep on when when I say
we we talk talking about like you know, the global
financial system. They cannot just keep on taking things from Africa,
so they have to get back.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And so like the best.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
People that you know supposed to capitalize on that opportunity
is black people, like black people being not just in Africa,
but outside of Africa. Till today, we've been up like
we oppressed it. You go to Brazil, you see black
people like you know, at the bottom.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
You go to you go to the state, like, but
we can change that. We can be on top, and
we can be on.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Top really fast instead of like spending going like aud
of years for us to be on top. We don't
have to go through the same process and the systems
that the white men, the Asian they go through.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
That.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, we can pivot, you know, we can fast track
to get to work because now you have technologies, you
have everything right, and we get the knowledge right.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
You look at some of the biggest institutions today.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
They're wrong by black people, right, So like why can't
why not ask black people successful like Africa Americans come
back to the motherland take advantage of.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
What already the white man is trying to take.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Advantage because see that's the thing, like they don't want
the successful black man, like you know, African Americans to
see that. Growing up in New York, I remember that
and as a businessman who have made it to that
a little bit, you know, becoming a millionaires as a
black man, you get to meet a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
People will ask me, like, how do you mate it
to become a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
As an African? Because it's like almost impossible. They don't
see when you talk about Africa, they see this, you
know I mean, which is like this is the reality
because for them when you talk about Africa, what's come
to their mind is this. They don't think you have
something like that, you know what I mean, They don't
think you have something better in Africa.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Well, like we want to change.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I want to say, hey, look the black rock were
tinto's the world biggest institutions.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Their their wealth is coming from Africa.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
But I also speak to the dispet like that's a
visual of right there right there.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, like that's the change that's happening, yeah and fast.
Like it's like you don't have to go far.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Just right here, that's a that's a million dollar house,
that's you know, that's like below poverty line. So it's
literally and then the crazy thing. You have the president
right there.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So the president. You have the.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
President right here who is like the president of the country.
You have a multi millionaire who live you know, just
right there. At the same time, you have somebody you
can't even get a dollar a day, right.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So taking a lot that somebody's opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh yeah, somebody, yeah exactly, say somebody already building.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean you you look left and right, there's already
buildings coming like you know, coming.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Here this network right like talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, I mean yeah, right there.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You have the islands over there, like you have about
three four five islands just right there right so, I mean,
and this is not just Guinea like you go to Senegal,
you go to Codivar, you go to Benin like where
everywhere you go in the continent is like that, you know,
so you can see the opportunity right there and The
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sad reality is that you see those buildings, they're not
owned by even Guineans. They're owned by Turkis, they're owned
by you know, the white skin. They're not owned by
black people. But like, because they see the risk, the
return on investment is way higher than the risk. Exactly,
they know the reward, So that's why they're willing to come. Like,
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you know, we're taking over a place like this in
amount of a couple of months, they turn it into
that and they're making millions of dollars.
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