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June 16, 2025 71 mins

Bitcoin remains an untapped source of net-new liquidity that could be injected into DeFi. This would completely reshape Bitcoin’s utilization from a mere store of value to a liquid asset that can be ported cross-chain and traded like a liquid staking derivative. Lombard’s LBTC builds upon Babylon’s Bitcoin staking primitive and aims to unlock new yield sources for the industry’s leading asset by increasing its DeFi utilization.

Topics covered in this episode:

  • Jacob’s background
  • Lessons gathered from Polychain
  • Focusing on Bitcoin
  • Why Bitcoin staking is crucial for BTC DeFi
  • Building on top of Babylon
  • LBTC minting
  • Sources of BTC yield
  • PoS inflation and native token incentives
  • BTC as a trading pair in DeFi
  • Lombard chain
  • Future challenges to overcome
  • Bitcoin L2s
  • Lombard milestones

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  • Chorus One: one of the largest node operators worldwide, trusted by 175,000+ accounts across more than 60 networks, Chorus One combines institutional-grade security with the highest yields at - chorus.one

This episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain.

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