October 27, 2025 • 25 mins
Before jumping into World Series Game 3, Ken reacts to the Orioles hiring a new manager. (Top of show)
(2:24) Bo Bichette will start at second base in tonight's World Series Game 3.
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(3:40) Ken explains why Max Scherzer starts for Toronto tonight, and why we should expect a cold reception at Dodger Stadium.
(7:10) LA's offense is not at its best, and Dave Roberts is considering a change in centerfield.
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(10:02) Ken's Inside Dish reveals why Stand Up to Cancer is important, and touches many people involved in the Fall Classic.
(20:49) Grillin' Ken answers your questions, including any possible CBA movement this off-season, if long-term deals will dry up, the most surprising aspect of the World Series so far, and if the Mariners will spend this off-season.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. We're
going to get to the World Series Game three coming
up tonight in a second, but I want to start
the show today with the news of the moment, the
news that broke last night, first by Jeff Passon of ESPN.
The Orioles have a new manager. His name is Craig Albinas.
He was the bench coach for the Cleveland Guardians the
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past two seasons under Steven Vote. Stephen Vote could very
well win his second straight Manager of the Year award
for what the Guardians did this season. So Craig Albinaz
is an interesting hire, and he's a guy who has
been kind of in demand in i'd say the last
two years. He's had some interviews, I believe the interview
with the Marlins last year and others. So here's someone
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that was going to get a job this go around.
And what's interesting about this for me is how Cleveland
is a target for other teams when they're hiring executives,
when they're hiring managers, and just look at this hiring
cycle alone. Albern As to the Orioles Kay Correa, who
was a coach with Cleveland. He's going to be the
Mets new bench coach. He was also in San Francisco
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with albern As before they were in Cleveland. And Matt Foreman,
the Guardian's assistant GM, is a finalist for the Rockies
head of baseball operations job. And it's interesting because with Foreman,
he is up against Amiel Sawdey from the Arizona Diamondbacks,
who has been in the game a while.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He was with the Red Sox prior to.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The Diamondbacks, and to me, it seems he's much more
experienced than Foreman. And when I ran that by someone
in baseball recently, that person said to me, yeah, but
Cleveland is seen as the model mid market team, the
team that seems to compete every year and how they
do it. That secret sauce is what everyone wants. So
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the Orioles have their man. Still a number of managerial
openings to go. We will get to them in due
time over the next several weeks. But the World Series
is still going on. Oh yes, no major announcements during
the World Series.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This never happens. That's the rule of baseball, which is
never followed.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But we have Game three coming up, and this is
an interesting series. Perhaps more interesting than some people anticipated
when we got going here. It's one to one, and
tonight we've got Max Scherzer against Tyler Glass. Now Max
Scherzer for the Blue Jays, Tyler Glass now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
For the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Bobachet will be in the lineup again for the Blue Jays,
and Bobachet, you know, before World Series Game one, had
not played since September sixth, a span of nearly seven weeks.
He had that spring left knee, and as I reported
on the broadcast in Game two, after the second inning
in Game one when he was playing, when he was
in the lineup, he put on a bulky knee brace.
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He was wearing a sleeve around that knee, but he
decided he needed more, he needed bulk, so he did that.
I assume that's what he's going to wear tonight. Did
not play except for a pinch hit appearance in Game two.
The Jays are trying to take it easy with him
because of course he's coming off his injury. They don't
want to play him every day, even with the off
days in the World Series. But he's back in there tonight.
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I presume he'll be batting clean up behind Guerrero. He
is a bat that is huge for them obviously when
he's healthy, and in talking to the Blue Jays players
during this series, they've been quite adamant about how he's
kind of their heart and soul in the lineup. And
a guy that didn't even get to twenty home runs
but nearly had one hundred RBIs this year, that's how
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clutch he was.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He's someone that they value a great deal both.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
In the clubhouse and of course when they're putting the
lineup together as a manager and coaching staff. So Bobaschet
back in the lineup. The pitching matchup, it's an interesting one,
to say the least, because of Max Scherzer, forty one
years old starting Game three, coming off that brilliant performance
in Game four of the ALCS that really helped the
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Jays turn this thing around or turn that thing around.
Max Scherzer is pitching on extended rest, as Shane Bieber
would have been pitching on extended rest.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And will in Game four.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Blue Jay's manager John Steiner said they wanted to give
Bieber an extra day. I don't really believe that's the reason.
One guy is on ten days rest, one guy's on
eleven something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They're okay.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The real motivation here, it seems to me, and from
what I understand talking to some Blue Jays people, is
that Shane Bieber has given the Blue Jays an awful
lot since returning from Tommy John surgery. Remember they traded
for him while he was completing the final stages of
his rehabilitation, and he's pitched really well. He's done extremely
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well for them, as well as anyone could have imagined,
and they simply don't want to push it, and they're
probably thinking he's got one good game left in him.
Aj Persinski mentioned this on Foul Territory the other day.
So if you want Bieber to go all out in
that one game, game four would be the time to
do it. Scherzer can start game three, end games if necessary.
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Not that big a deal with Game seven because that's
ultimately going to be a bullpen game, most likely short
leashes for everyone, But that seems to be the motivation here. Schurzer,
of course, has.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Big game experience, big game experience at Dodger.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Stadium across North America, and he's coming off at great outing.
But it seems to me this was as much motivated
by Bieber as it was by Scherzer. Now shures are
at Dodger Stadium. This is going to be interesting. Go
back to twenty twenty one, the NLCS Game six. Scherzer
had pitched in relief in the Division Series in Game
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five against the Giants. He came back in Game two
of the NLCS, wasn't particularly good and then told the
Dodgers his arm wasn't right.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It was overcooked.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That was the term he used, overcooked, and the Dodgers
wound up using Walker Buehler on three days rest in
Game six against the Braves. Buehler did not really pitch
all that well as you might expect on three days rest,
and ultimately the Dodgers lost.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The series.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Has been something of I don't know a villain is
a right word, but fans are not exactly short memory
people in Dodger Stadium and in LA in general, and
they are going to remember that Scherzer did not.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Take the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Whether he was justified and not up to it physically
or not, this is a thing. So I do expect
him to get a chili reception tonight. I also expect
him not to care one bit. Schurzer is used to
big game environments. He was telling us the other day
how on August eighth, I believe it was, he pitched
in Dodger Stadium against Clayton Kershaw on Kobe Bryant Bobblehead night,
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and he loved the energy, He loved the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So it's going to be an interesting atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Of course, the Dodgers playing their first World Series game
at home and with Max Scherzer obviously starting for the
other team. Sure's a amazing postseason history will go through
it all tonight. I'm sure on the broadcast. He's one
of the great central characters of our game and Game
four in the ALCS when he stared down and yelled
(07:03):
at his manager, that was one of the great shurs
Or moments and one of the great Blue Jays moments
of recent memory. Finally, as we discussed World Series Game three,
the Dodgers are considering a lineup change. It's interesting with
the Dodgers, how they've become this starting pitching machine, and
yet with that great lineup o Tani and Freeman and Bets,
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they're not hitting.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They haven't hit in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They're averaging since the start of the Division Series. Take
out the wildcard round. Since the start of the division series,
averaging three point seven runs per game, Otani, Betts, and
Freeman combined one ninety eight in that span seven sixteen. Ops,
those guys haven't gotten it done. Now the team is
still ten and two in that time, or ten and
(07:47):
two in the postseason, I should say that includes the
wildcard round. But Dave Roberts is mulling a lineup change
because Andy Paez is four for forty three in the postseason,
and while he's a great defender, they're looking for a
little bit more the bottom of the lineup in front
of Otani, right, So what can they do if they
want to put Bajes or Piez on the bench, They
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can go with Kigy Hernandez in centerfield or Alex Call.
Probably it would be Hernandez, and Hernandez is not as
gifted as centerfielder as Pies is. He's good out there,
hasn't played all that much out there this season, neither
his call for that matter. But they might want to
get calls on base skills into the lineup and kind
of redo the bottom.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Of the order that way.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So that's the decision. Dave Roberts is mulling here. We'll
see how it all plays out. We'll see what he
ultimately decides. Here, pies did of a hit in game two.
I don't know that that swings this one way or
the other, but they will lose something defensively if he's
not in there, and maybe the idea would be maybe
to gain something offensively.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So there you have it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That is the preview of game three. Talk about the Orioles.
We've got much more to come. The inside dish will be.
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Speaker 5 (10:05):
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Speaker 1 (10:09):
Now for the inside dish, the part of the show
where I talk maybe about a story I've written, a
trend in the game, something else going on with the sport.
And today I want to go in a little bit
different direction. And I'm going to go in a little
bit of a different direction because of an interview I
did with Freddie Freeman before Game one of the World
Series in Toronto, and I asked Freddie about being back
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in Canada. He's played, of course for Team Canada. His
mother and father were born in Canada, and he talked
about his mother, Rose Murray, who passed away from Melanoba
when he was only ten years old, and he said
that when he plays in Canada and people ask him
about his mom. To him, it's kind of a cool
thing because it keeps her spirit and it keeps her
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memory alive for him, and it always brings a smile
to his face.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then I answer kind of stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And when Stand Up Cancer that moment happened after or
in the middle of game two, it hit me again,
and it hit me again that it's really important to
keep memories alive of certain people, and that's kind of
what the Stand Up to Cancer moment is about. Also
about honoring people who are alive and fighting that horrible disease.
(11:19):
And even with certain bow ties, not all of them,
it's certain bow ties. Part of my thinking and motivation
is to honor people who are fighting certain things and
also to honor the memories of those who might have
passed from a particular disease or condition. So when you
watch Stand Up to Cancer, you always see the people standing,
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and it's always a poignant moment to see everyone standing
with their signs, with the names on the signs. The
players do this, the fans do this, everyone involved in
the game does it. And as someone who is working
on the broadcast, I'm always privileged to be able to
honor people and have my signs shown because I'm part
of the broadcast. They're going to show me so this
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week or this stand up to cancer. I had four names.
You can see them right there. Jim Hennerman, David Calvert,
Scott Miller, and Chris Obert. And Jim Hennerman and Scott
Miller are two former baseball writers who recently passed. And
Jim is a guy that he was my predecessor at
the Baltimore Evening Son, actually my predecessor on the beat
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when I joined the Son Evening Son in nineteen eighty seven.
They kind of took Jim, who was an older guy
at that time, not that much older, but older than me,
and they pushed him aside and made him sort of
what we would call now a national baseball writer, but
it really was more a second Orioles writer, and that
was a difficult thing to accept for Jim. I'm sure
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this young guy coming in I was twenty four at
the time, I was clueless, excuse me. But he did
it with such grace and he was a class act
all the way and also a really good writer in
his own right. Scott Miller, a lot of you guys
know who he is or was. He was a brilliant
baseball writer. His work appeared in New York Times, CBS
Sports Line, many other publications. Right before he passed, he
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published a book on managers, which is brilliant. And Scott
is someone we all miss. David Calvert. David Calvert is
a friend of my editor at The Athletic, our main
baseball editor, Mark Carrigg, and Mark asked me to include
his name on one of my cards because David is
going through it right now. He's fighting an aggressive form
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of leukemia. He is a guy who is the tripa,
a photographer for the Reno Aces that's the Diamondbacks top affiliate,
and someone who his friends speak so highly of and
loved dearly. And then finally, Chris Over. Chris Over is
a member of the Fox Sports family. He's a guy
who's been on our crew for many, many years. He
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first had a brain tumor in twenty twelve. He's been
dealing with stuff ever since, and he's someone that we
all at Fox thinks so highly of and love. So
these are four names. Two have passed and two are
still with us that I chose to honor. And everyone
in that stadium had their own names, of course, had
their own people that they were doing trying to do
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justice too and hopefully keep their names alive, and with
certain bow ties, not all of them, as I said,
certain bow ties, it's kind of the same idea. And
the bow tie for Game one of the World Series
was for the ALS Association, and ALS is of course
a horrible disease. It's something a lot of people are
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dealing with, and a lot of people who have been
part of baseball have.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Dealt with in recent years.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You see the names there, Jim Caple, former baseball writer,
most recently of ESPN he passed away from ALS. Matt Kirkchin,
Tim's older brother, Tim's idol, great guy, Jim Poole, former
major league pitcher, a guy covered with the Baltimore Orioles.
And Chris Snow, former baseball writer for the Boston Globe
who went on to become the asistant general manager of
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the Calgary Flames. So they're all fantastic people in their
own right, and all of them passed from ALS. And
of course one of our own right now, Sarah Langs,
is fighting ALS and doing it with such dignity and grace.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's amazing. She's still at these games. She was at the.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
World Series in Toronto, She's going to be here in
la And not only is she at the games, she
is working as she has always worked, giving us these
amazing statistical nuggets that are just something that enhanced the
game for all of us. They are just amazing kinds
of things that she comes up with, and she does
it every day, even while fighting this horrible disease. So
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the point of this all is that certain people, you
want to keep their names alive, you want to keep
their memories alive if they've passed, and you want to
honor them if they're still with us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And listen, we all.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Care about the games, right, We all love talking about
the games and discussing them and debating them and arguing
about out them. But and you hear this, and it's
a cliche, there are times when we lose perspective. And
it kind of hit me when Freddy said what he
did about his mom. It hit me in the stand
up to cancer moment, And it hits me when I
wear certain bow ties that hey, man, yeah, the games
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are important. The work that I try to do is important.
The work that everyone is doing around the World Series
is important. But the stuff what we're talking about right now,
far more important and far more necessary to keep talking
about and keep thinking about as we go forward. You know,
one purpose of the Stand Up to Cancer thing is
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obviously to raise money, and one purpose of the bow
ties is to raise both money and awareness for certain organizations.
Stand Up to Cancer was the one I wore for
Game two.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I've always thought with the bow ties.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Listen, people aren't buying those bow ties for the most part.
Maybe they're giving to the charitable organizations. I almost always
include a link where you can look up the organization
and of course donate.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But I've always.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Thought that the main thing here is raising awareness, raising
awareness of these different charities and doing all the things
that you can do within the context the small context
of what I'm doing to help along what's going on
with those particular organizations.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So again, it's awareness.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's the thing that has always motivated me with it
since the time I started wearing the bow ties and
I don't know, twenty ten or whatever it was, and
it's a thing that is a huge motivator today. So
with that, I want to talk about tonight's bow tie,
which is fitting in this conversation. Fitting for all of
what I am discussing right here. It is a bow
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tie for the Kirk Gibson Foundation for Parkinson's. Now, of course,
that the World Series returns to Dodger Stadium, Kirk Gibson's
on everyone's mind. Kirk Gibson hit the amazing home run
in Game one of the nineteen eighty eight World Series.
I was lucky enough to be there off Dennis Eckerslee.
It's one of the great moments in baseball history, certainly
one of the most memorable moments for people of a
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certain age, and something that always brings a smile to
your face. The Vin Scully call Gibbey's trip around the
bases all of it well. For ten years now, Kirk
Gibson has been fighting a diagnosis of Parkinson's disease. And
he is a guy that, as a player, was one
of the strongest individuals you could imagine, one of the
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fiercest competitors you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And here he is.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's dealing with Parkinson's and he's dealing it with it
in the same way that he.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Was as a player.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And there's a story by Cody staven Hagen that we
had up last week about how he opened a thirty
two thousand square foot Kirk Gibson Center for Parkinson's in
Farmington Hills, Michigan. And at that center there are classes
that help those suffering with Parkinson's with cognitive therapy and
physical therapy, and Kirk Gibson's the driving behind all this,
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and through donations and fundraising, what they've done is they've
enabled these classes to be free for all those suffering
with Parkinson's who want to come and take advantage of
those facilities and those classes that they have available. So
the Kirkibson Foundation is a great one and it's one
that I honor to wear it tonight. And again, Gibbey,
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we want to honor you with this and we want
people to know what you're doing. And it's the same
with all those people who have passed, and it's the
same with all those people who are still dealing with
whatever they're dealing with. As Freddie said, let's keep their
spirit alive. Let's keep in appropriate cases, their memories alive.
That really is something that even in these most competitive
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games of the year, it's kind of foremost in my mind.
We'll be back back with Grill and Ken.
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All right, time now for grilling. Can the part of
the show where I answer your questions? So let's get
right to not waste any time. Here comes the first question.
It is from Richard Procter, who asked, do you think
that there will be any movement on the CBA this offseason?
As a result of the impending workstoppage? Do you foresee
fewer long term extensions and long term free agent signings? Okay,
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two separate questions. Do I expect movement on the CBA
this off season? The answer to that is no, because
we're still too far away from the expiration of the
current deal, which.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is December one, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Like everything else in baseball, like everything else in life,
deadlines are what motivate people to act.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And even though it would make.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
A lot of sense to get this out of the
way this offseason, I just don't expect serious movement until
the following off season, when obviously the deadline of December
first will be staring.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Everyone in the face.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, how it will affect the free agent market and
extension markets, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
If I'm running a team not terribly concerned about the
possibility of missing time in twenty twenty seven, even though
at this moment that possibility appears very real. If I
were running a team owning a team, because this is
not going to be the President of Baseball Operations choice,
I would run the team as I see fit, and
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run the team as if this is not even happening,
because one we're not sure we're going to miss time.
In fact, I have a hard time believing still, for
all the saber rattling going on right now, I have
a hard time believing, with this sport as successful as
it is right now, that we're going to have a
situation where the owners are willing to shut down the sport,
lose money, lose games, and damage the reputation of the
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industry among sports fans. Have a really hard time believing.
That didn't happen last time, hasn't happened since nineteen ninety five. Now,
the motivations here are perhaps even stronger, and the strongest
they've been since ninety five. But again, this is a
game of chicken, and I don't believe either side is
going to be willing. It's the owners actually who make
the call here. I don't believe the owners will be
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willing to go through with this. I'm still not convinced.
So I would sign players to free agent contracts. I
would sign them for long term extensions.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Easy for me to say. I'm not the one spending
the money.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I know, but I just don't see why it would
necessarily disrupt things to that degree. Now we've seen it
already happen. The Angels only gave Kirk Zuzuki a one
year contract as the new manager, it seems, because they
want to keep their options open entering a potential lockout situation.
That's the Angels. I don't necessarily believe it's going to
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be every team all right now. Next question, this one
comes from foul Territory. What has surprised you about this
World Series so far? That's a good question. I would
say the Dodgers' offense has surprised me, and Otani not
being this major force has surprised me. Otani's had that
one great game, the clincher in the NLCS, but he
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hasn't done all that much else. The Home Running Game
one was kind of in garbage time, so I'm not
sure I really count that. I would say that is
what has surprised me most, that the Dodgers' offense has
not been all that potent. All Right, one more question
before we go, Let's see what we have. This one
comes from Jim Huerta, who asked, do you believe John
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John Stanton will actually let Seattle spend this offseason? Well,
the way I would answer that is past performance is
an indicator of future performance.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right, I'll believe it when I see it. They've been
a little bit more aggressive Seattle in at least in the.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Deadline this year when they took on Ajohano Suarez and
Josh Naylor. But it's not like they're going out and
spending like reckless sailors. So I don't necessarily believe they're
going to spend big. I think they will spend and
try to keep it going forward. Do I expect them
to be a major player in free agency?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No? I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
They never have been, so let's see what happens. I
shouldn't say never. They've done some things. Adrian Beltre was one,
but in general, well, Sattle Mariners have not been that
big a spender. All Right, I want to Thank you
everyone for watching, for listening. We will be back Friday
with Alana Rizzo. I will probably still be either at
the World Series recovering from the World Series.
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Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. We're
going to get to the World Series Game three coming
up tonight in a second, but I want to start
the show today with the news of the moment, the
news that broke last night, first by Jeff Passon of ESPN.
The Orioles have a new manager. His name is Craig Albinas.
He was the bench coach for the Cleveland Guardians the
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past two seasons under Steven Vote. Stephen Vote could very
well win his second straight Manager of the Year award
for what the Guardians did this season. So Craig Albinaz
is an interesting hire, and he's a guy who has
been kind of in demand in i'd say the last
two years. He's had some interviews, I believe the interview
with the Marlins last year and others. So here's someone
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that was going to get a job this go around.
And what's interesting about this for me is how Cleveland
is a target for other teams when they're hiring executives,
when they're hiring managers, and just look at this hiring
cycle alone. Albern As to the Orioles Kay Correa, who
was a coach with Cleveland. He's going to be the
Mets new bench coach. He was also in San Francisco
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with albern As before they were in Cleveland. And Matt Foreman,
the Guardian's assistant GM, is a finalist for the Rockies
head of baseball operations job. And it's interesting because with Foreman,
he is up against Amiel Sawdey from the Arizona Diamondbacks,
who has been in the game a while.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He was with the Red Sox prior to.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
The Diamondbacks, and to me, it seems he's much more
experienced than Foreman. And when I ran that by someone
in baseball recently, that person said to me, yeah, but
Cleveland is seen as the model mid market team, the
team that seems to compete every year and how they
do it. That secret sauce is what everyone wants. So
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the Orioles have their man. Still a number of managerial
openings to go. We will get to them in due
time over the next several weeks. But the World Series
is still going on. Oh yes, no major announcements during
the World Series.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This never happens. That's the rule of baseball, which is
never followed.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But we have Game three coming up, and this is
an interesting series. Perhaps more interesting than some people anticipated
when we got going here. It's one to one, and
tonight we've got Max Scherzer against Tyler Glass. Now Max
Scherzer for the Blue Jays, Tyler Glass now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
For the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Bobachet will be in the lineup again for the Blue Jays,
and Bobachet, you know, before World Series Game one, had
not played since September sixth, a span of nearly seven weeks.
He had that spring left knee, and as I reported
on the broadcast in Game two, after the second inning
in Game one when he was playing, when he was
in the lineup, he put on a bulky knee brace.
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He was wearing a sleeve around that knee, but he
decided he needed more, he needed bulk, so he did that.
I assume that's what he's going to wear tonight. Did
not play except for a pinch hit appearance in Game two.
The Jays are trying to take it easy with him
because of course he's coming off his injury. They don't
want to play him every day, even with the off
days in the World Series. But he's back in there tonight.
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I presume he'll be batting clean up behind Guerrero. He
is a bat that is huge for them obviously when
he's healthy, and in talking to the Blue Jays players
during this series, they've been quite adamant about how he's
kind of their heart and soul in the lineup. And
a guy that didn't even get to twenty home runs
but nearly had one hundred RBIs this year, that's how
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clutch he was.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
He's someone that they value a great deal both.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
In the clubhouse and of course when they're putting the
lineup together as a manager and coaching staff. So Bobaschet
back in the lineup. The pitching matchup, it's an interesting one,
to say the least, because of Max Scherzer, forty one
years old starting Game three, coming off that brilliant performance
in Game four of the ALCS that really helped the
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Jays turn this thing around or turn that thing around.
Max Scherzer is pitching on extended rest, as Shane Bieber
would have been pitching on extended rest.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And will in Game four.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Blue Jay's manager John Steiner said they wanted to give
Bieber an extra day. I don't really believe that's the reason.
One guy is on ten days rest, one guy's on
eleven something along those lines.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They're okay.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The real motivation here, it seems to me, and from
what I understand talking to some Blue Jays people, is
that Shane Bieber has given the Blue Jays an awful
lot since returning from Tommy John surgery. Remember they traded
for him while he was completing the final stages of
his rehabilitation, and he's pitched really well. He's done extremely
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well for them, as well as anyone could have imagined,
and they simply don't want to push it, and they're
probably thinking he's got one good game left in him.
Aj Persinski mentioned this on Foul Territory the other day.
So if you want Bieber to go all out in
that one game, game four would be the time to
do it. Scherzer can start game three, end games if necessary.
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Not that big a deal with Game seven because that's
ultimately going to be a bullpen game, most likely short
leashes for everyone, But that seems to be the motivation here. Schurzer,
of course, has.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Big game experience, big game experience at Dodger.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Stadium across North America, and he's coming off at great outing.
But it seems to me this was as much motivated
by Bieber as it was by Scherzer. Now shures are
at Dodger Stadium. This is going to be interesting. Go
back to twenty twenty one, the NLCS Game six. Scherzer
had pitched in relief in the Division Series in Game
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five against the Giants. He came back in Game two
of the NLCS, wasn't particularly good and then told the
Dodgers his arm wasn't right.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It was overcooked.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That was the term he used, overcooked, and the Dodgers
wound up using Walker Buehler on three days rest in
Game six against the Braves. Buehler did not really pitch
all that well as you might expect on three days rest,
and ultimately the Dodgers lost.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
The series.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Has been something of I don't know a villain is
a right word, but fans are not exactly short memory
people in Dodger Stadium and in LA in general, and
they are going to remember that Scherzer did not.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Take the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Whether he was justified and not up to it physically
or not, this is a thing. So I do expect
him to get a chili reception tonight. I also expect
him not to care one bit. Schurzer is used to
big game environments. He was telling us the other day
how on August eighth, I believe it was, he pitched
in Dodger Stadium against Clayton Kershaw on Kobe Bryant Bobblehead night,
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and he loved the energy, He loved the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So it's going to be an interesting atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Of course, the Dodgers playing their first World Series game
at home and with Max Scherzer obviously starting for the
other team. Sure's a amazing postseason history will go through
it all tonight. I'm sure on the broadcast. He's one
of the great central characters of our game and Game
four in the ALCS when he stared down and yelled
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at his manager, that was one of the great shurs
Or moments and one of the great Blue Jays moments
of recent memory. Finally, as we discussed World Series Game three,
the Dodgers are considering a lineup change. It's interesting with
the Dodgers, how they've become this starting pitching machine, and
yet with that great lineup o Tani and Freeman and Bets,
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they're not hitting.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
They haven't hit in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They're averaging since the start of the Division Series. Take
out the wildcard round. Since the start of the division series,
averaging three point seven runs per game, Otani, Betts, and
Freeman combined one ninety eight in that span seven sixteen. Ops,
those guys haven't gotten it done. Now the team is
still ten and two in that time, or ten and
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two in the postseason, I should say that includes the
wildcard round. But Dave Roberts is mulling a lineup change
because Andy Paez is four for forty three in the postseason,
and while he's a great defender, they're looking for a
little bit more the bottom of the lineup in front
of Otani, right, So what can they do if they
want to put Bajes or Piez on the bench, They
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can go with Kigy Hernandez in centerfield or Alex Call.
Probably it would be Hernandez, and Hernandez is not as
gifted as centerfielder as Pies is. He's good out there,
hasn't played all that much out there this season, neither
his call for that matter. But they might want to
get calls on base skills into the lineup and kind
of redo the bottom.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Of the order that way.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So that's the decision. Dave Roberts is mulling here. We'll
see how it all plays out. We'll see what he
ultimately decides. Here, pies did of a hit in game two.
I don't know that that swings this one way or
the other, but they will lose something defensively if he's
not in there, and maybe the idea would be maybe
to gain something offensively.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So there you have it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That is the preview of game three. Talk about the Orioles.
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Speaker 1 (10:09):
Now for the inside dish, the part of the show
where I talk maybe about a story I've written, a
trend in the game, something else going on with the sport.
And today I want to go in a little bit
different direction. And I'm going to go in a little
bit of a different direction because of an interview I
did with Freddie Freeman before Game one of the World
Series in Toronto, and I asked Freddie about being back
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in Canada. He's played, of course for Team Canada. His
mother and father were born in Canada, and he talked
about his mother, Rose Murray, who passed away from Melanoba
when he was only ten years old, and he said
that when he plays in Canada and people ask him
about his mom. To him, it's kind of a cool
thing because it keeps her spirit and it keeps her
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memory alive for him, and it always brings a smile
to his face.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then I answer kind of stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And when Stand Up Cancer that moment happened after or
in the middle of game two, it hit me again,
and it hit me again that it's really important to
keep memories alive of certain people, and that's kind of
what the Stand Up to Cancer moment is about. Also
about honoring people who are alive and fighting that horrible disease.
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And even with certain bow ties, not all of them,
it's certain bow ties. Part of my thinking and motivation
is to honor people who are fighting certain things and
also to honor the memories of those who might have
passed from a particular disease or condition. So when you
watch Stand Up to Cancer, you always see the people standing,
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and it's always a poignant moment to see everyone standing
with their signs, with the names on the signs. The
players do this, the fans do this, everyone involved in
the game does it. And as someone who is working
on the broadcast, I'm always privileged to be able to
honor people and have my signs shown because I'm part
of the broadcast. They're going to show me so this
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week or this stand up to cancer. I had four names.
You can see them right there. Jim Hennerman, David Calvert,
Scott Miller, and Chris Obert. And Jim Hennerman and Scott
Miller are two former baseball writers who recently passed. And
Jim is a guy that he was my predecessor at
the Baltimore Evening Son, actually my predecessor on the beat
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when I joined the Son Evening Son in nineteen eighty seven.
They kind of took Jim, who was an older guy
at that time, not that much older, but older than me,
and they pushed him aside and made him sort of
what we would call now a national baseball writer, but
it really was more a second Orioles writer, and that
was a difficult thing to accept for Jim. I'm sure
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this young guy coming in I was twenty four at
the time, I was clueless, excuse me. But he did
it with such grace and he was a class act
all the way and also a really good writer in
his own right. Scott Miller, a lot of you guys
know who he is or was. He was a brilliant
baseball writer. His work appeared in New York Times, CBS
Sports Line, many other publications. Right before he passed, he
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published a book on managers, which is brilliant. And Scott
is someone we all miss. David Calvert. David Calvert is
a friend of my editor at The Athletic, our main
baseball editor, Mark Carrigg, and Mark asked me to include
his name on one of my cards because David is
going through it right now. He's fighting an aggressive form
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of leukemia. He is a guy who is the tripa,
a photographer for the Reno Aces that's the Diamondbacks top affiliate,
and someone who his friends speak so highly of and
loved dearly. And then finally, Chris Over. Chris Over is
a member of the Fox Sports family. He's a guy
who's been on our crew for many, many years. He
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first had a brain tumor in twenty twelve. He's been
dealing with stuff ever since, and he's someone that we
all at Fox thinks so highly of and love. So
these are four names. Two have passed and two are
still with us that I chose to honor. And everyone
in that stadium had their own names, of course, had
their own people that they were doing trying to do
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justice too and hopefully keep their names alive, and with
certain bow ties, not all of them, as I said,
certain bow ties, it's kind of the same idea. And
the bow tie for Game one of the World Series
was for the ALS Association, and ALS is of course
a horrible disease. It's something a lot of people are
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dealing with, and a lot of people who have been
part of baseball have.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Dealt with in recent years.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You see the names there, Jim Caple, former baseball writer,
most recently of ESPN he passed away from ALS. Matt Kirkchin,
Tim's older brother, Tim's idol, great guy, Jim Poole, former
major league pitcher, a guy covered with the Baltimore Orioles.
And Chris Snow, former baseball writer for the Boston Globe
who went on to become the asistant general manager of
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the Calgary Flames. So they're all fantastic people in their
own right, and all of them passed from ALS. And
of course one of our own right now, Sarah Langs,
is fighting ALS and doing it with such dignity and grace.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's amazing. She's still at these games. She was at the.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
World Series in Toronto, She's going to be here in
la And not only is she at the games, she
is working as she has always worked, giving us these
amazing statistical nuggets that are just something that enhanced the
game for all of us. They are just amazing kinds
of things that she comes up with, and she does
it every day, even while fighting this horrible disease. So
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the point of this all is that certain people, you
want to keep their names alive, you want to keep
their memories alive if they've passed, and you want to
honor them if they're still with us.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And listen, we all.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Care about the games, right, We all love talking about
the games and discussing them and debating them and arguing
about out them. But and you hear this, and it's
a cliche, there are times when we lose perspective. And
it kind of hit me when Freddy said what he
did about his mom. It hit me in the stand
up to cancer moment, And it hits me when I
wear certain bow ties that hey, man, yeah, the games
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are important. The work that I try to do is important.
The work that everyone is doing around the World Series
is important. But the stuff what we're talking about right now,
far more important and far more necessary to keep talking
about and keep thinking about as we go forward. You know,
one purpose of the Stand Up to Cancer thing is
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obviously to raise money, and one purpose of the bow
ties is to raise both money and awareness for certain organizations.
Stand Up to Cancer was the one I wore for
Game two.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I've always thought with the bow ties.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Listen, people aren't buying those bow ties for the most part.
Maybe they're giving to the charitable organizations. I almost always
include a link where you can look up the organization
and of course donate.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But I've always.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Thought that the main thing here is raising awareness, raising
awareness of these different charities and doing all the things
that you can do within the context the small context
of what I'm doing to help along what's going on
with those particular organizations.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So again, it's awareness.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It's the thing that has always motivated me with it
since the time I started wearing the bow ties and
I don't know, twenty ten or whatever it was, and
it's a thing that is a huge motivator today. So
with that, I want to talk about tonight's bow tie,
which is fitting in this conversation. Fitting for all of
what I am discussing right here. It is a bow
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tie for the Kirk Gibson Foundation for Parkinson's. Now, of course,
that the World Series returns to Dodger Stadium, Kirk Gibson's
on everyone's mind. Kirk Gibson hit the amazing home run
in Game one of the nineteen eighty eight World Series.
I was lucky enough to be there off Dennis Eckerslee.
It's one of the great moments in baseball history, certainly
one of the most memorable moments for people of a
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certain age, and something that always brings a smile to
your face. The Vin Scully call Gibbey's trip around the
bases all of it well. For ten years now, Kirk
Gibson has been fighting a diagnosis of Parkinson's disease. And
he is a guy that, as a player, was one
of the strongest individuals you could imagine, one of the
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fiercest competitors you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And here he is.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's dealing with Parkinson's and he's dealing it with it
in the same way that he.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Was as a player.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And there's a story by Cody staven Hagen that we
had up last week about how he opened a thirty
two thousand square foot Kirk Gibson Center for Parkinson's in
Farmington Hills, Michigan. And at that center there are classes
that help those suffering with Parkinson's with cognitive therapy and
physical therapy, and Kirk Gibson's the driving behind all this,
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and through donations and fundraising, what they've done is they've
enabled these classes to be free for all those suffering
with Parkinson's who want to come and take advantage of
those facilities and those classes that they have available. So
the Kirkibson Foundation is a great one and it's one
that I honor to wear it tonight. And again, Gibbey,
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we want to honor you with this and we want
people to know what you're doing. And it's the same
with all those people who have passed, and it's the
same with all those people who are still dealing with
whatever they're dealing with. As Freddie said, let's keep their
spirit alive. Let's keep in appropriate cases, their memories alive.
That really is something that even in these most competitive
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games of the year, it's kind of foremost in my mind.
We'll be back back with Grill and Ken.
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All right, time now for grilling. Can the part of
the show where I answer your questions? So let's get
right to not waste any time. Here comes the first question.
It is from Richard Procter, who asked, do you think
that there will be any movement on the CBA this offseason?
As a result of the impending workstoppage? Do you foresee
fewer long term extensions and long term free agent signings? Okay,
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two separate questions. Do I expect movement on the CBA
this off season? The answer to that is no, because
we're still too far away from the expiration of the
current deal, which.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is December one, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Like everything else in baseball, like everything else in life,
deadlines are what motivate people to act.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
And even though it would make.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
A lot of sense to get this out of the
way this offseason, I just don't expect serious movement until
the following off season, when obviously the deadline of December
first will be staring.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Everyone in the face.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, how it will affect the free agent market and
extension markets, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
If I'm running a team not terribly concerned about the
possibility of missing time in twenty twenty seven, even though
at this moment that possibility appears very real. If I
were running a team owning a team, because this is
not going to be the President of Baseball Operations choice,
I would run the team as I see fit, and
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run the team as if this is not even happening,
because one we're not sure we're going to miss time.
In fact, I have a hard time believing still, for
all the saber rattling going on right now, I have
a hard time believing, with this sport as successful as
it is right now, that we're going to have a
situation where the owners are willing to shut down the sport,
lose money, lose games, and damage the reputation of the
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industry among sports fans. Have a really hard time believing.
That didn't happen last time, hasn't happened since nineteen ninety five. Now,
the motivations here are perhaps even stronger, and the strongest
they've been since ninety five. But again, this is a
game of chicken, and I don't believe either side is
going to be willing. It's the owners actually who make
the call here. I don't believe the owners will be
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willing to go through with this. I'm still not convinced.
So I would sign players to free agent contracts. I
would sign them for long term extensions.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Easy for me to say. I'm not the one spending
the money.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I know, but I just don't see why it would
necessarily disrupt things to that degree. Now we've seen it
already happen. The Angels only gave Kirk Zuzuki a one
year contract as the new manager, it seems, because they
want to keep their options open entering a potential lockout situation.
That's the Angels. I don't necessarily believe it's going to
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be every team all right now. Next question, this one
comes from foul Territory. What has surprised you about this
World Series so far? That's a good question. I would
say the Dodgers' offense has surprised me, and Otani not
being this major force has surprised me. Otani's had that
one great game, the clincher in the NLCS, but he
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hasn't done all that much else. The Home Running Game
one was kind of in garbage time, so I'm not
sure I really count that. I would say that is
what has surprised me most, that the Dodgers' offense has
not been all that potent. All Right, one more question
before we go, Let's see what we have. This one
comes from Jim Huerta, who asked, do you believe John
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John Stanton will actually let Seattle spend this offseason? Well,
the way I would answer that is past performance is
an indicator of future performance.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right, I'll believe it when I see it. They've been
a little bit more aggressive Seattle in at least in the.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Deadline this year when they took on Ajohano Suarez and
Josh Naylor. But it's not like they're going out and
spending like reckless sailors. So I don't necessarily believe they're
going to spend big. I think they will spend and
try to keep it going forward. Do I expect them
to be a major player in free agency?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No? I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
They never have been, so let's see what happens. I
shouldn't say never. They've done some things. Adrian Beltre was one,
but in general, well, Sattle Mariners have not been that
big a spender. All Right, I want to Thank you
everyone for watching, for listening. We will be back Friday
with Alana Rizzo. I will probably still be either at
the World Series recovering from the World Series.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
But a Lota will be there. Maybe I'll be joining.
I don't even know, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Then have a great week everyone, enjoy the rest of
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