Episode Summary
We live in an uncertain age, one in which wealthy and powerful forces are working tirelessly to overthrow democracy, turn back the clock on human progress and destroy the middle class. The sheer magnitude of the West’s crisis of democracy can be overwhelming, however, and that’s why in this episode, I wanted to take more than a few steps back to explore the Renaissance, a period of world history that is much discussed in popular media, but often in a way that overshadows the real people and their actual intentions. Where did the Renaissance come from and what exactly were the people who made it hoping to achieve with their efforts? And are there any lessons that we can take from that time period for today?
These are very big topics, needless to say, and I could think of no better person to discuss them with than Ada Palmer. She’s a historian who teaches at the University of Chicago, and she’s written a fantastic review of the entire time-period called “Inventing the Renaissance,” which also discusses the historiography of one of humanity’s most written-about eras.
Besides this and other history books, Ada writes science fiction as well, which we get into at the very end of our conversation in the context of what lessons modern people can take from the Renaissance.
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Audio Chapters
00:00 — Introduction
07:04 — The continual mythic refounding of the Renaissance
09:51 — Solidarity vs. unity in Italy
14:13 — Rediscovery of ancient texts
16:18 — Petrarch's plan to unify Italy through classical education
24:23 — Machiavelli's new interpretations
30:18 — The myth of underground modernists during the Renaissance
36:52 — The rise of pluralism
40:59 — The rarity of Renaissance atheism
49:32 — The try-everything age
52:31 — Growth through debate
57:34 — Diderot and the promise of the future unknown
Audio Transcript
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MATTHEW SHEFFIELD: So your book is called Inventing the Renaissance; before we get into the stories that you tell in the book, let’s just get into the large
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